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2024 Elections | 'SA needs a reset, via postponement of next year's polls, to fix itself': Lehohla
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- Опубликовано: 19 дек 2023
- Former Statistician-General Dr Pali Lehohla says South Africa should consider a postponement of the much-anticipated 2024 general and presidential elections.
Instead, the country should hold wide-ranging talks involving all stakeholders, including communities, civic groups, politicians, businesses and religious organisations, to determine the kind of a country they want to build.
Talking to the Daily Maverick, Lehohla said SA is not in a condition to move on and continue under the current circumstances.
His view is that the nation needs to pause, reset, and have frank conversations.
Dr Lehohla, Director at the Economic Modelling Academy, joins us virtually, as does Political Commentator Ebrahim Fakir, to discuss this.
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We should vote as early as possible and remove ANC
Elections must take place timeously with no delay.
Yes the sooner the better get rid of the ROT IN GOVERNMENT 😭
I suspect that idea of postponing elections is coming from the ANC camp that is panicking, stressed, afraid of next year defeat because of what they're doing since 1994, S. Africans are sick and tired of the inability to deliver.
I agree with you ANC wants more time to break and steal.
It must not be postponed, we want ANC to go! We are tired of ANC.
Yes yes yes 😮
Your votes won't get rid of the ANC. They will breed coalitions, and therefore change will be delayed for another few years.
No no no. We must reset to 1994 and a better ANC which will fix the country and stop other parties from interfering.
When the ANC took over the running of South Africa they had the impression the country would NEVER run out of money. ha ha
2024 is our 1994. Padi must take back seat ❤
Respect your elders boy.
People please!!!! Pay no mind to these two gentlemen.
No we know what kind of the country we want, that is why we want the 2024 the election.
Elections are not for honouring Mandela but the people of South Africa. Pali must make a U-turn where he's heading to. Votes must carry on.
You must go vote, recruit people to do so. We need to make our own change.
We are The Capables.
He is benefiting from corruption
At least Mandela died rich than many of us. His children and grandchildren were left with millions. Who must clean that house. The grandchildren must sell it and divide the money.
We need no delays
No no no. we must vote even tomorrow to remove the ANC
Fully agree
No frikkin way, we can have those conversations afterwards
😅 So right!
After the ANC has won and are further cemented in their rule of this country?
Oh, no, don't mess with democracy. The debate must always take place! Keep to the constitution and don't blame demons!
We want to vote now
Dr Lehlohla is more emotional than reasonable in his argument. Elections are constitutional matters. The pause can be made through interaction with elected leadership.
The duties of every citizen is to vote, to stay with other people in peace and to pay taxes. In order to achieve the above let's all run to the polls not later than next year as citizens to fulfill our duties
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Exactly, let us go to the elections on the already scheduled date. Changing the elections date simply shows cowardice.
Under what current circumstances? Ones where “the ANC will rule until Jesus comes back” is being proven false? 😂😂😂😂
NO DELAY
We are ready for our 1994... in 2024
Big No we must take the Buffalo by horns out of office
Reset or pause you should have done that long time ago not now when people have had enough, No postponements. We are kicking the ANC out
Nonsense. Elections should go on
ONLY after the MK party is launched and supported by Zuma and now we are possessed and need to pause……😂😂😂😂😂😂
And who's going to be leading or ruling this country as we will be pousing, give ANC time to rebuild?
Elections are regulated by the the Constitution, preparations are afoot, no pause.
Tsek. We need elections ASAP.
👍👍👍👊👊👊
What I don't understand here, does it means all this time these superior guys didn't acknowledge these challenges till this year when we are about to mark our crosses on a ballot in 2024,🤔. Strange indeed!!!
The man is full of dollars in his pockets, we tired of Cyril he must go, we need fresh and energetic present
Not Cyril alone,the entire ANC must go. We need young people,with vision.
@tsekomofokeng182 But Cyril is in charge if he goes they all go, he is incharge of their failures and not taking steps to correct the wrongs
@@zulu9357 Let them all go,new government will arrest all SKELMS.
what we need is removal of the ANC's arrogance, nepotism and corruption. who needs a pause when there's supposed to be change.
He wants the whole country to pause while his stomach is full, and our people are hungry and jobless under Ramaphosa
Madiba foundation should look after Madiba house . A diseased man cannot own the house so who is the title deed owner
Did that guy put two voter papers in one box???! Can someone explain that?
South Africans are angry but not angry enough. If we're really not happy why can't we mobilize ourselves and fight to unseat the President or ANC with immediate effect.
If people pull together in all spectrum, from medical to engineering, sports to entertainment, media to politics... If we organize a body that will represent us we can achieve anything. Huge changes require pain and sacrifice.
"The IEC (Independent Electoral Commmission) Must Just Be Fully Resourced & 'Maintain Its Openness & Independence.WE,The PEOPLE Will USE Our Democratic Right TO Elect OUR Public Representatives.Does 'ANYONE' Know The AGE LIMIT For 'Public Representation?'"
I fully agree with you
We are not conscerned about Mandelas house. Its His not ours. These guyz are mad
If Bababu UMsholizi didn't announced this, when were you going to say all this.
No no no no He wants to keep his strong relationship with Anc he has never ever said this before ANC must come out of office elections must continue 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣your friends must become out of power In 2024
No Postponement we will Vote to change we can't stand the ANC anymore
Whose fault is it...
The anc is totally at fault.
30yrs is to a long time to be for to suffering ill-treatment from the anc
What is going to change that was not that could have changed in 30yrs.
We are tired!!!
And very tired we are 😢
Enough about conversations.
As a Statistician and Mathematician myself, I totally agree with Dr Lehohla. you cannot meaningfully solve a problem without fully formulating it! We have been voting for a very long time, without changing material conditions of the majority of the citizenry. We cannot keep on adding 2 and 3 and each time expecting a different result!
How do we change anything when the very people who are in power refuse to take action? Also, since 1994 the ANC has been the ruling party, based on your statement you make it seem as if we have been trying multiple parties and they've failed, you make it seem like the Bafana Bafana situation changing coaches.
We cannot pause just because ANC is panicking. If we pause that means during that time ANC will be milking what left of it.
Based on your career, surely you are aware that the numbers says that the are more corrupt members in a government. Meaning that those will be making decision on your daily life are greedy people only thinking about their families only. You career should be able to show you, the more they in power, the more damage in the economy. There is a saying "fail fast and improve". Let us have those coalitions and we will learn from them.
@@ericdlamini7614 We have been choosing the "better devil", excuse the expression. But time has come, as Dr Lehohla would tell us, to, as a nation, put together the constitutional jurisdiction that we as a nation can remove from power any political party we elect to govern our country should it deviate from the mandate we put it in charge to execute.
'No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that had created it' - Albert Einstein. Mbalula is the same old Mbalula, Cyril is the same old Marikana saga Cyril. The values these people have cannot be changed by me or you saying something but our votes can alter our destiny hence the time is now.
@@nhlanhlamahlangu2895 But if we are not well organized, Dr Lehohla is suggesting that we need to be well organized when we face these people in an election because he knows how well organized they are, we will be doing the same thing over and over and each time expecting a different result.-Albert Einstein.
Because ANC is highly challenged you are paid to save them,we suffered enough under ANC allow us to vote them out.
It's all a waste of time -- there is no way of fixing anything -- the sooner you accept his the better for you and your health
Dr Lehohla is so wrong on Mandela house. We use our own hands to clean our own houses, cut grass, wash pools
They just want to give anc more time to canvas and win more people's hearts, never we must oust those crooks
No we are not pausing, these challenges
Have been there since forever and nobody cared to fix the country. Let's vote tomorrow. Ramaphosa and his cartels have dismally failed the country
No! No!
These-a days; when I hear the hackneyed word * Stakeholders * tied in with proposed discussions / negotiations; my eyes IMMEDIATELY glaze over given the historical non-outcomes of the many past endeavours; soon to be followed by the lack of political will and / or intellectual capacity to IMPLEMENT any recommendations as made. Other oft-repeated buzz-words like * Empower / Unpack / Boots-on-the-Ground ... etc * have the exact same effect .... ! PS : Certainly do NOT delay the May 2024 National General Elections .... ! 💫💥
there is no need for a pause ...we gave anc enough time and clear mandate to change our lives by providing basic services to the public especially to those who were previously disadvantaged but they have failed us.
Everyone yells replace the ANC which is fine i guess ..but no one seems to realise theyll be replacing the ANC with some something far worse....In America they voted someone worse than Trump into office just cause they didnt like his character and the world paid the price...Vote very carefully
Lol, wow these guys, we cant look at ourselves on the mirror as we proceed to the nearest voting station to vote.
Those talks have happened. The current Government cant claim that they don’t know what needs to happen.
This country is overCommissioned, overWorkshopped.
Is he claiming that we have not spoken enough?
If we haven’t, we will vote 🗳️ and speak a bit louder.
There's no pause in life, for the what, for who.....
Why now why they didn't do it last year to prepare that if people want change let them do so you are late
I think the ANC must take a pause not all of us.
We need to vote as soon as possible to take ANC out
He must say that in Lesotho, his home country.
Yes let him tell the Lesotho Govt where he comes from
But he is a South African, he might have born in Lesotho but he has been in South Africa for more than 40 years now!
Lehohla is overplaying his importance. He wants to give opportunities to the enemies of South Africans time to be well prepared on how to defeat the ANC. Lehotla is a known anti-revolutionary and who cares about Madibas house that should be looked after by the beneficiaries of the house.
I absolutely agree with you. The beneficiaries should take care of it,but not the S.A community. I hope his second wife ,Grace Michelle, is " if she really cared about Tata Mandela, she should have kept that house in a tip-top position, as Mandela gave her fame and wealth. As I believe that if Winnie Mandela was still alive, she would not have left that house to be in the condition Mr Lehohla is describing it to be. That was the job of all the beneficiaries, including Grace Michelle, but definitely not the South African community.
Im saying this for the last time, ANC is out but they will for a co _ gov with DA to stay in power
The anc does not like the people who put them in power but abuse and underming them next year anc must be shown who we are and they must see themselves in the opposition benches all those implecated in state capture must seen in yellow over ralls including ramaphosa on phalaphala case all chapter institutions be overrolled we need new leadership not anc criminals
Lets vote
Election must be postponed, yes or no
I support this idea so much! I personally don’t see or imagine any individual or party worth my vote to lead our country. I am not planning to vote because it feels like I have to choose the least rotten apple from a bunch of rotten apples. At the moment none of these parties have our interests at heart apart from playing politics and winning elections.
Then start your own party
I would encourage looking at Rise Mzanzi. It is a new party that is promising. I am going to vote for them.
@Tshidiso M Well Said and Agree 1000% Political Parties are all the same and SA citizens Suffering as is all about Them👌👍✌
If u don't know who to vote for next year the ignorance is on you. Some of us know who to vote for and we will choose leadership on your behalf.
@@ianduplessis7892 No thank you!
I really really really agree with mr Lehohla we need a referendum as a country.Remember when we go on with elections we are agreeing to the
way in which things are happening in our country. Looking at what and how things are happening in our country really we need to do something. I will be very disappointed if nothing happens to remedy the situation in our land. We are too soft as citizens we challenge nothing which makes all parties to undermine whatever we mourn about. Referendum referendum referendum i say.
Then vote the house out! Stop making excuses, people should be up in arms about this. You guys have enough time.
Lehohla is clearly speaking on behalf of the anc. his former employer,
Exactly. He wants some more. He thinks people are stupid
This bald old madala must not bore us, we are voting next year, We want change!
Thank you for the video. The topic of extending the elections date it really doesn't make sense. We already have a non functioning democracy in our country, which has not been working for a very long period. People like to sacrifice where sacrifice is not necessarily needed. The country's government is dead already. How is the postponement of the elections going to solve with the democracy of the country? The result for the postponement will just lead to a disaster. People like to see the elections take place on the proposed date in May. The party which wins the elections will handle the problem which is being identified, but definitely not the ANC party, as it had failed to deal with that problem, but concentrating on stealing. Let the elections go on as planned. The brave and the brainy winning party will take care of that, as they have long being prepared to deal with most, if not all, of the problems. Only cowards will need a postponement of the elections date.
I think Dr lehohla was high during this interview
I use to respect this man but today seemingly he is completely out of context
We, the citizens of RSA have no appetite to postpone elections 2024... the only reset we need, is a new govt with less ANC power.
I am grateful that there are views stated that have interest to fix. There's problems and we need those problems adressed. To keep on yelling it is the corrupt ANC, is bringing no prosoerity to the solutions of these problems.
Uyagkafa Padi what has Madiba house has to do with elections .Madibas children inherited that house they must keep their fathers house clean. No pause here we are voting postponing voting will cause anarchy this is not Zimbabwe we are not running to other countries we will vote .What is the reason for postponing elections .Only voting can change the current problems
We did mistake for not allow Mrs Winnie Madikizela Mandela she was gonna clean all this people who make us fools by neckclase today will have zero decievers we all know she hates deceivers than anything she will know him where he hide when she want him we miss you Mama
Go and cut that grass Madala. We want to vote MK into power in May. No no no delays
You are a millionaire why don't you cut the grass.Stoppong elections doesn't cut grass.
The pause Dr Lehohla is suggesting in my opinion it's about buying more time for the ANC and circumvent it's punishment through the polls. We want to go to the polls next year and affect change. Nothing it's gonna change in our country while ruminating about the failures of the ANC.
He is right.next year ,there will be much chaos after elections bcos some ambitious politicians will never concede defeat.they have aimed high and when they lose elections,they will create all sorts of anarchy.
We will do that codesa after elections.
We just don't want Ramaphosa in our parliament selling our national assets to private sector.
This 'Dr' needs to call it and out the other foot in the grave as well. The only pause needed is to let the cANCer vacate government.
The old man can go F'n clean that house by his damnself if it bugs him thay much.
Postponing elections is like saying to D.A (i will vote for you but you must be also black people centric), EFF (please hate the illegals & you have my vote), ANC (stop corruption hence i will vote for you) all this is no rocket science but all of these leopards are not willing to change their spots. Bottom line we must vote period we can't afford to have Haiti/Mexico/Sudan/Congo/Nigeria situations
ANC MUST FALL!!!!
Mr Lehohla, I am sorry to say you sound like a coward. The hole problems you are talking about, the ruling party should have dealt with it. Exactly what you are talking about, it is not a national disaster which needs an emergency attention. The winning political party will deal with that. Period.
Nakhoke Nakhoke, Sebeqalile eyi iyagqilaza I MK ....but they are late waze wahleka umfana omncane wathi ha ha ha isitimela sikushiyile niyayikhumbula leyo ngoma.....
That would be unconstitutional.
We are a constitutional democracy and that prescribes how we behave.
So we need to get the right people in and reconfigure the constitutional order. That is would be attained by majority 2 thirds majority in the National Assemby after all constitutional processes had unfolded and his view of society's composition. Civil society engaging. Without that it would be illegal and unlawful.
I wonder how a man of his stature n calibre has missed that and simplistically jump into pausing and postpone the elections. It is by far illegal to do and would have led to a nightmare of unintended consiquences. After all all constitutional problems would have been solved easily without following the prescripts of the law.
Hot air.
Remove the corrput anc
Will the opposition parties agree?
As we speak opposition parties don't agree with postponement
@TshidisoM I fully agree. I share the same sentiments as you. Couldn't have said it better.
I would encourage looking at Rise Mzanzi. It is a new party that is promising. I am going to vote for them.
Problem in SA its not PEOPLE that vote it's MONEY .. elections got us nowhere...Elections???? Ask Niger,Mali and Burkina Faso what they have ACHIEVED... WITHOUT elections 😅
This is ANC tactics .fruitless discussion.the current party must be removed .period
We don't care what Mandela's yard looks like, we don't care about 'horse' parables, we don't need retirees to make decisions on an election postponement & we don't need time to reflect.
We want to affect change, we can even vote in January before work & school resumes.
Uncle uuhm nope we must vote 😂
Lehohla trying to buy time for Cyril and the anc....
You are right. Cyril at one stage fed him,that gravy has not left his throat,he wants some more.
Padi Lehohla is ready for deportation to Lesotho now, me thinks.
No
I agree.We are visionless. We need to seat down and tell them what we want.
ANC will never have the vision. See now,new pyramid scheme party MK.
First of all … congratulations on a rare occasion that mainstream media is encouraging the kind of conversations and thinking that will progress our society (which is in fact mainstream medias ethical obligation).
To continue the conversation… dr lehotla is correct in arguing that the system is deeply dysfunctional and requires rapid and radical change.
The question to be answered is what is to be done to transform the current broken politico-economic system to one that functions on behalf of all of society. While Ebrahim is correct in that there are other institutions, forums etc tasked with answering political questions these are in fact innumerous questions, not transparent etc. hence the real issue are obfuscated and not discussed at all.
How do we change the political system to one that functions on behalf of society is the single very specific question that now needs intense and varied debate leading to a plan of action. This exchanging of ideas must happen in a totally transparent way informing public and allowing the public to participate and affect the outcome ala referendum and/or peoples assemblies and so on…
That's why zuma left, they trying to become kagame in South Africa... Basically dictatorship
We need elections ....asipostpone
Fair and speadley
The reasoning by Dr Lehlohla made me to lose interest in studying further to become a doctor. It luks wisdom doesn't need one to become a doctor