1960 Oliver OC46 Crawler - Transmission Removal, Steering Clutch Assembly - Part 3
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- We take another step backward then finally start putting things together on the Oliver crawler project.
See Mrs. Wes explain the situation: • I have an adventure
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Uhhh, how else are you supposed to remove a cotter pin that's almost rusted away other than with side cutters? What does it matter if you're replacing it like you should anyway?
Wait until he finds out sometimes you cant get it out at all and have to take the castle nut off anyway cutting the cottter pin in the process.
Right. Like every ball joint I've ever touched!
He must live in Arizona. Anyone north of the Mason-Dixon line uses side cutters.
The way I use my lineman's pliers would make this guys head explode.
I was taught in auto training to use sidecuts and in the Navy we used sidecuts. I guess it depends on who trained you.
I do like to try them all with my expensive Snap-on cotter pin puller and 8oz ball pein hammer before I reach for end nippers which I find give a better twist and pull than side cutters. Impact on the castle nut is normal where rust is involved. That Snap-on cotter pin puller is the ideal farmers friend for threading twine through baler needles!
Excellent job so far Wes. Definitely an involved project. Thank the Lord you hard donor parts. The little side bars is activity make each video unique. Take care catch you on the next one
Thanks 👍
Another great video. Keep it up. This is a million times more interesting than working on computer controlled cars.
Removing cotter pins with side cutters is quite normal where I live so thought it would be normal elsewhere too. Great video bro. Stay safe
Your ever-deepening repair of the tractor is reminiscent of a story (probably apocryphal) about Henry Royce (of Rolls-Royce fame) trying to repair his garden gate. What should have been a simple screw-tightening exercise ended with him redesigning the grindstone he was going to regrind the tip of the screwdriver with. By then it was too dark to continue.
7:30 The trolling in your videos is absolutely magical. I would watch it just for that if it wasn't for the rest of the content being so damn informative!!!
You and vehcor are on the same wavelength this week, that's two toyota-ish fuel doors i've seen riveted on this weekend.
What is the issue with side cutters to remove cotter pins? My dad was a professional equipment mechanic for over 50 years and always used side cutters to remove cotter pins. He showed me how to do it and I've been using them that way for over 40 years.
I'm in Oostburg,Wi. But I like Pabst Blue Ribbon.
While I understand that you are working for a client and it's taking up your garage that you could use for more jobs, but I just wish you could do a proper, @squatch253 style rebuild on this tractor.
It is good to know I have been removing cotter pins wrong all 50 plus years I have done it.
I know!
@@WatchWesWork using a pliers sucks in my book.
Me too.
@@scruffy6151 To many scuffed knuckles especially when its cold!
@@wideyxyz2271 agree
Wes, I'm a director for a bearing manufacturer. I can probably get you any bearing you need for any project. Not junk, either, as I have access to every major manufacturer. Recently helped a guy get needle roller bearings for a John Deere that haven't been made in decades. If I can ever be of help (and probably save you a significant amount of $$) we can find a way to get my email address to you.
Click on his name at the top and he has an e-mail address where you can e-mail him.
Dave , nice to see nice people, Thanks
@@williecosgrove Thank you, Willie. I discovered Wes's channel a few weeks ago and I enjoy his videos. It would be rude of me to not offer my assistance (not that he needs it).
@@jakemallory4239 Thank you, Jake.
@mister kluge Thank you.
I was hoping for the "I win" on that stud! Is there another way to remove a cotter pin? I have never tried, the side cutters always work. lol
Im still waiting to hear "In the pile" lol
I'm slowly learning the way!
I nearly always use pincers - with side-cutters as the backup.
Definitely find myself reaching for side cutters I have damaged a pair before but they were a cheap pair anyway
Wow, what a job. Do the instructions say (imaginary ones I'm sure) "To service the drive clutches, first dismantle the entire tractor" Amazing to watch. Cheers
Nice to see another woman here! Hi from Singapore 🇸🇬.
I told my wife "I need a torch" 3 seconds later Wes: " I don't know how anyone lives without a torch"😂 I said "see I told you!"
Dang right! A welder too!
@@WatchWesWork Indeed! I bought my first welder this spring (Hobart MIG) and my wife was THANKFUL since a few weeks later my son rear ended a car so replacing the radiator support was almost a zero cost job (pull-and-pay replacement).
🔥 is a must in any shop. You can even cook with it 😆
" There's your problem Lady!"
@@williamfindspeople4341 We used to make Jiffypop popcorn using a rosebud tip.
> late upload
> starts off calling the project a fiasco
Idk what I'm about to watch but I'm sure its gonna be great
The normal ups and downs.
Gotta love a woman that drinks beer with her husband
yup. I grew up in the wrong part of America. No cool women here. Single for life!!
I usually deliver him a beer so I don't get yelled at for drinking without him.
@@mrswes I think he knows better
@@mrswes bring 4.. drink 2
@@mrswes He knows better than to yell at you. He knows how lucky he is. Happy Wife, Happy Life.
This crawler is Oliver your shop.
Nice!
Yuk yuk. Good one
This is an Oliver model OC-4 Crawler, if they decided to use letters, this would have been the Oliver OC-D Crawler ;-)
That was horrible and I laughed way too long at it! lol
Know what Wes? I like watching you work.
You rock!
me to!!
much more then soyboy wannaba tyler at indiana diesel.
I too like to watch him work, definatly on RUclips that is
''The Bangladesh shipyard effect is wearing on me'' LMAO so im not the only one that watches those videos and goes faaaaaaaaaark
Wait a minute you can't be in a Bangladesh ship breakers yard you don't have on sandals.
My wife does...
You should see Hong Kong it's worse than Bangladesh, smells too. 😆
Watch some of the Pakistan Truck Repair videos where they all wear safety sandals.
I'm beginning to wonder if you should've fixed the donor instead lol.
Maybe so. The donor had no engine, sheet metal, or loader.
I just can't express how brave you are to be doing this job. Its an old machine, really worn out, low on parts and just everything rusted solid, and a mess. Excellent video as always, wish you were closer to done but with excellent dog footage as well as wife content, this video gets a brutally heavy duty thumbs up!! See you in the next installment!
@grafvonstauffenburg All possibly true. But my thoughts were what if he gets this thing going, Wes gets paid and the owner uses it for a few months and something else breaks. Sure not Wes' problem but what a waste to have sunk all that work into something so obsolete and worn out and always wonder what's next? I like seeing restorations and work on the old stuff but if parts are crazy expensive or you just can't find them would not something more common be a smarter move? Maybe in fact there are lots of these lingering around, but I would like to be sure if it was mine. I looks like a fun piece of old iron to play with and drive around, but if it is going back to doing real work will it last?
Side cutters on cotter pins! Next you’ll be leaving batteries on concrete
What's wrong with batteries on concrete?
@@legitdelirium3446 It makes them go flat 😁
J S I dunno, maybe he’s one of those guys who owns a $4000 bicycle.
@@legitdelirium3446 I used to haul scrap batteries to a recycle plant. Most of them were cracked or leaking. They make concrete fizzy.
OO you are a tough guy and remove cotter pins with your teeth ha?
Japanese and German bearings, some of the finest in the world, made in the USA.
I think I may have an incident in my nether regions.
Everyone knows Swedish bearings are the bess. SKF invented them in 1907.
The_Hate_Inside I'm from Sweden and I can agree. Kinda why almost everything you take apart has skf stamped on the bearings ;)
EVERY good mechanic uses sidecutters to remove cotter pins. Who would be silly enough to have a problem with that??? Really??? Are you joking with us?
Spotted cows aren't bad, it's just when they start flying is when you've got real trouble....
How does anyone live without a torch... me "not very well not very happily"
Oh no. I have been using side cutters to pull cotter pins for 36 years. I'm not sure if I can get trained to do it different.😂😂
Congratulations - you're moving forward tackling rusty - crusty bolts + stuck on stuff quickly. You're becoming the restoration expert 👍
Sooooo, did she go thru a six-pack just sitting there, and she was still able to maintain balance on that stool. If so, whoa... my kinda woman... Hahaha...
Got up early this morning, got my coffee and my two customary home made oat mill walnut cookies, and the "pup" in my lap, sat down eager to watch a video of yours, and there weren't one to watch.
Was concerning to me, but you came thru.
Thank you sir, great video.
I wish I could work there as an apprentice. Sadly now days shops are only looking for journeyman.
To make it more like a shop breaking yard you need to wear flip flops...
Just put some sawdust in that transmission and pour in some heavy oil and send it out the door. It fooled Barney Fife.
STP oil treatment! Mu ole man lived ny that stuff! Lol
Runs smooth as silk. .... for a few days.
Banana peels in the engine oil is the thing to choose for the used car dealers here in Germany...
8-0
I've never used anything other than side cutters to remove cotter pins. What else would one use?
So the gas cap lanyard isn't to not loose the cap. But to not loose the door 🤔🤔 go figure
Using side cutters to remove cotter pins is very commonplace. Especially in aviation with very large pins (like axle nuts on landing gear). They other guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
It's pretty much the only way that actually works!
Just wording what do you do in your spare time...Looks like yr a farmer.. I get it now , you work on all these old things to keep from doing all the Honey do Jobs ..Right , I rang the bell, See ya
Hay Wes I like watching you pull down old well built machines thanks
I'm with you on the "side cutters and cotter pin". That's what my Dad always taught me.
Mine too.
Must be a shortage of cotter pins where he lives?
"HOW does anyone live without torches??" The answer is 'anti-seeze', getting people to use it is the hardest part.
I realise what Anti-seize is supposed to do but what is it please? We use copper grease to do the same job.
The problem is, what we know as Anti-seize today, didn't exist in 1960, and I'd say a fair amount of those bolts havent been removed since...well....1960 lol
@@w056007568 It's a grey blend of aluminum, copper and graphite lubricants that is intended to prevent galling, corrosion and seizing. I put it on just about everything that is exposed to the elements that has metal on metal contact.
Yeah but you gotta get stuff apart to put never seize on it
@@jaredkean7841 its been around for years
Officially found a channel I love to watch!!
On the subject of the bearings with no radius on the inner race where it seats on a flange, they probably did not have a great appreciation for stress risers at sharp corners...
The person who blew you up on the side cutters and cotter pins probably never got their hands dirty having to work on old equipment
aaannnd they needed a man snuggle... a muggle... if you will....
No side cutters on cotter pins? thats like the best way. That pneumatic rivet gun in awesome! Does this crawler have sentimental value or something?
Watch from the beginning
How else would I get a cotter pin out without side cutters?!
Tons of progress on this episode been enjoying this series @Watch Wes Work
Yes! Loveya for this upload!
What a nice way to finish a Sunday! Thanks Wes! Oh, and Mrs. Wes....love the boots!
Your nuts (also really skilled). I would runaway from home with that thing tore apart in my shop.
well if you got the parts and a extra machine to use use its not so bad lol. once you done one clutch pack, youve done em all, eventually stuff tends to be very similar overall.
I have always used side to remove cotter pins
Great job Wes, you never fail to amaze.Your perseverance is inspirational. I love the cameos of your family. Misses Wes is a natural and seems to be more relaxed in front of the camera. I think a cold snack would be very good about now. We'll see you on your next video .
Please video the look on the customer's face when you present him the bill.
He knows.
@@WatchWesWork Must be his last estimate was twice yours.
As an old iron owner. IF you send it out to a pro, its because you love it and want it right. and you know that its going be 8 times the cost that you and Bubba could "getter done" in the back yard. That freaky little beast is obviously a family member and wants a new life.
The shafts used to be made sharp corners where the diameters changed so bearings didn't need a radius but they found that they needed a radius to reduce the stress at the step on the shaft so all bearings started to be made with a radius to fit shafts. More of the bearings with a radius were used so even though it cost slightly more to make them, it was cost effective to make all bearing with a radius because the radiused bearing can be used in place of the non-radiused bearing but the non-radiused can't be used on a shaft that has a radius at the step.
Tired old mechanic Thanks for passing along the knowledge that would otherwise be lost in time.
It's not increasing the stress but it is severely reducing the fatigue strength of the part, but roughly as you wrote
Those "rust welds" really do pop after you apply the heat. Amazing work Wes...see you on the next round. Best wishes, stay healthy, and give the pup a hug for me.
I don't have to worry about being within driving distance of Wisconsin i live in Wisconsin 🤣🤣🍻
Getting closer to being done. Good job on the repairs so far.👍
Lucky!
Always a good time when I see a new video posted from Wes. Keep up the great work sir.
I might have missed it, but shouldn't you have soaked the clutch pack plates with oil while assembling, used to do that on the packs I did.
I love the long videos there is so much information
I was unaware there was another way to remove cotter pins other than side cutters 🤔
I love these videos. Great commentary.
Glad you like them!
Ah yes!! Been waiting all weekend for you to upload!! Thank you sir.
Sorry. Slacking.
@@WatchWesWork no apologies needed. I appreciate everything you do along with your hard work.
Diagonal side cutters are a perfect tool for cotter pins. I like watching folks do it with pliers.
Them small home brew c/o be warned & spirits makers poping up like weeds in a crop '
Bought a few New to try Gin & Rum - Taste like crap Gin tasted like something that a drag car wud use i wasted au $60 . the rum eeh drinkable
why the older c/os sell because they spent $ & years perfecting it 👍
I’ve been using side cutters on split pins since 74 when I was an apprentice, always worked for me, less chance of busted knuckles I reckon..🍺🍺
12:15 I literally just watched Vehcor do the same thing...
That and the "I win" exclamation make you wonder.
Wes could use an afternoon crew to help lift stuff down.
Near heard of a Belleville washer before now.
Thanks for the places I can get a windmill. I have found one abandoned and am going to check it out. Again thank you and momma for the great content.
Just tell the guy...I don't worry about the cotter pins, I have a full box of finish nails...look out your window for the mushroom cloud lol
Did you know my granddad? Every trailer and implement he ever worked on had nails in place of cotter pins!
@@gregorycross612😉
Cam Roller cracked because you used the wrong type of side cutters on the cotter pins :p
Hmm. I knew it!
Lol.
At the start of this one, I know you are going to get this one back running well but here is my suggestion. Drag it out into an open field at least 500ft from the bush and over 1/4 mile from any structures. Pack a large quality of high explosives around the machine - none of that ANFO or other low grade stuff but good high nitro dynamite or RDX/C4 - light fuse and then take to the bush. Wait for the sound of freedom - nobody will ever have to wrench on that again :)
I think it would take a lot more than that to hurt this machine!
The dude who said "Don't use side cutters on split pins" should know I open paint tins with a flat head screwdriver too!
Not sure why you're calling split pins cotter pins thiugh!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotter_(pin)
It says in the second line that in the US cotter pin refers to a split pin.
@@WatchWesWork Don't worry Wes, i should've put a 😉 at the end of my post. Was just joshing. I'd already googled American English usage.
It's strange how many mechanical and or automotive words are so totally different. For instance I'd say boot, wing, bonnet, gear stick & petrol whereas you guys would say trunk, fender, hood, stick shift & gas.
The split pin / cotter pin thing is just the tip of the iceberg. The differences have always fascinated me.
Makes me wonder what Americans call those chunky, shaped pins that used to hold on pedals back in the day?
How dare you? Work with YOUR tools, in YOUR shop on YOUR RUclips channel the way YOU see fit! Oh the humanity! Love the Bangladesh shipyard fiascos! Thank you for the videos, the abuse of your tools and the knowledge that I am not the only person ever to own a shop and get goat roped into something that is one huge CF~~~~~ lol Thanks for the vids brother.
Dad recently acquired a Mitsubishi dozer that "just needs steer clutches" and this is making me really not want to do them lol
Hey I watch y'all's channel all the time. Yeah.. tho you guys have the bravery to take it on!
by the time your done, the seat is going to be the only thing that wasnt repaired or replaced.
You need to hire a young fellow and teach your talents to the next generation. Your son is too young to hold the torch while you remove a gear but a 16-19 year old would be perfect for the job.
One question........ what is Mrs. Wes RUclips channel's name?
ruclips.net/channel/UCbC0c8ozPMHZH-KPpiI-obA
@@WatchWesWork Thanks Wes
Don't you know you're never supposed to hit your gear puller with a hammer!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈🙈
Hmm. I must have slept through that meeting...
@@WatchWesWork me to.
Yeah those pullers can get you in trouble. I had a tapered gear on a hay baler that I couldn't get to release. Destroied a couple pullers, a few knuckles and who knows what else. Hours later and a lot of frustration, I finally decided to cut the shift in half and head to the John Deere store, but lunch first. I stood up, took about 5 steps away (third puller still under tension) and then kaboom rattle rattle rattle. It flew off and into the door jam. Shure glad, and very fortunate, I had moved!
Thats one interesting rebuild. I'm amazed that you have been able to find the spares for those clutch packs. With a drop of paint thats almost a total restoration! Is the owner going to put it back into service or just very fond of it? Amazing work Wes and fascinating to watch. Best wishes from the UK 🇬🇧
Cletrac's don't have steering clutches, they are planetary steering gear assemblies.
Not this one.
Dear Mr. Wes.
👍👌👏 Oh WOW! Extremely impressive! I definitely wouldn't have neither enough patience nor enough motivation to do this. Additionally at least a bit lack of knowledge.
Thanks a lot for making teaching recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards, luck and health to all of you.
Postscriptum: Please kindly allow me a suggestion: I think that maybe WatchWesWork- base caps and T-Shirts with "Here's your problem, lady" and "Guess what" would sell fine!? 😁
I wouldn't care if you used your grandpa's comb to perform a mechanics task, whatever gets the job done. Besides,what difference does it make? It's YOUR tools and you're not displaying/promoting dangerous activity. To quote my younger bro. "People,they're the worst."😄✌❤
Never Seize in the 55gallon drum.... used on ALL reassemblies.... makes live SOOO much easier if you have to take it apart again in the next century...🤣🤣🤣
The OC Crawler...comes as a kit, easy to assemble...if you got another one as a donor...
It's all about mix&match
:-D
"Let's see if she runs over the stump..."
Made me laugh so hard...
:-D
Transplant central....move over Dr Kildare..! Your donor roster is thinned...CAREFUL..!
Unbelievable amount of complexity for anyone to figure this OC46 steering clutches and drive units .Really fun for me to watch and makes for a very good video of your exceptional skills. The Take a way here for most people is to NOT spend one dime on parts or time on this overhaul because it probably will fail or have a very short life. This should have been junk by most owners. Your or other shops will have between 50 to 100 hours against this machine at $150 per hour or $15,000 plus $2000 and other parts. Koodo’s for You and Thanks. Everybody else run. Can’t wait for finish of and loader re attached.
I have to say something here. Not to criticize anybody but possibly so that they will see this do something different in their future videos. I watched a video from Hamiltonville where you flew in to help them try to save an old excavator. The guy who did most of the talking (chattering & giggling) made it impossible to enjoy. He drove me nuts with his inane stupid giggling. I even said something to the effect "more work and less giggling". Anyway, my point here is that your videos are so much more enjoyable because you are silly. Everything has some meaning and most generally you explain what you say so that there is no mystery. Thanks for all of your hard work. I would love to live close enough to you that I might be of some help. I'm 80 years old and have a lot of mechanical knowledge. I attended General Motors School in Van Nuys, Ca. for a year while appenticing at a Buick agency. Also, I learned a ton from my Dad who seemed to know everything. He was well taught by folks along the way and he passed it down to me. I, in turn have passed it to my Son.
Wawww se jeant thanke you very match forever goode job 👍👍👍👍👍💪💪💪💪💪🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿
Yeah Wes, you should know you need to use cotter pin removal pliers!!! NOT side cutters! LOL It really makes me wonder what these people are thinking when they leave stupid comments like those!!! My thoughts on the bearing substitute, the larger radius should result in a stronger race. But having the air gap could be a weakness, but all in all for the application I think you made the right call! As always, keep up the awesome content! I hope you and the family are doing well! Looking forward to to the next WWW video! Dan @6-4_Fab Glen Rock, PA
28:03 Are you using COTTER PIN PULLERS to CUT WIRE???? You'd be out on the friggin street if that happened in my shop
Cotter pins aren’t reusable so does it really matter how they are removed?
Hey Wes, have you ever worked on Chittagong Ship Breaking Yard? Mmmm I think your shop is much better. I joke logically and thank you for your videos.
I live within 30 miles of Wisconsin and the ONLY TIME I go there is for fireworks ! Lol. I’m not much on those IPA’s or designer beers , give me a Bud or Grain Belt and I’m all set ! We have beers like Pigs Eye and others they taste like Coors lite to me ! Give me a shot and a snib and I’m good ! Are you painting this crawler ?
Have you used a bearing heater? The heavy duty Mechanic (western truck and tractor repair) was using one.
It must have expanded the bearing 2-3.000. I think it was an oil bath? All the best from Canada
Can't believe you would comment on design, this coming from a guy that can't even remove a cotter pin correctly. THEN! there was that one other thing you did wrong and you aren't working inside a clean room! I didn't see ANY PPE!!! The nerve, I tell ya...
Side cutters on a cotter pin is a no-no??? I never seen a mechanic, that means 100s, use anything else (maybe a slip-joint pliers when cutters were MIA). One size cutter fits most sizes of pin. I love it when "I win" against a stuck 'whatever'.
Unsure what the guy's issue with side cutters and cotter pins was. Inexperience, probably. That school bus shop I mentioned to you where I worked; didn't allow reuse of a cotter pin. I can't remember any of us who DIDN'T use side cutters to remove them. I mean they make a cotter pin removal tool. But, even the Snap-On one is a steaming load. We all used side cutters. We were all professionals, too! Very odd.
Hey. I’ve decided that after quite some time to subscribe. I know it’s not a huge thing, and zippo impact on whatever, but what held me back was the way you trashed vehicles and owners previously. I do know your a fan of South Main Auto, so am I, a long time subscriber. He does trash talk “stuff” but he does in with a bit of class. Not derogatory. You haven’t done that in a while, appreciate that.
that fuel door was a nice change... a job you didn't need a torch.
True!
Made me laugh
New Glarus makes some darn good beer. Cheese curds and spotted cow the best things to come out of wisconsin IMO. (coming from an East coast boy)
Getting flack about using side cutters on cotter pins? wow, when I was an apprentice aircraft mechanic that was the only way I was taught, pretty sure that's how the entire industry removes cotter pins.
This project seems to be quite a can of worms. Enjoying watching your progress. Thank you.
Dare I ask what the Bangladesh ship salvage yard situation is? I did have quite a bit of spacial challenge when rebuilding my tractor engine... (3rd and 4th part in video editor) and I'd like to know if I qualify... :P