very honest man. I'm 21 and still a jw to please my parents but I am trying to waste as little time as possible in this cult. Your experience and advice has helped alot. Cheers
Be careful brother and start making friends outside the jw's with worldly people (yes they are good and kind) and prepping your new life in secret because once you leave everyone will be gone and out of your life so at least you'll have some backup. Just fake it till you make it. Be prepared for the worst and be strong and have your life prepared once you leave that way you won't be in culture shock all alone. Make friends with your co workers and neighbors and get close to your relatives that are not jw's. When I left I already lived a double life and didn't loose a thing. Sure it was crazy but I had my social community and then I shunned the witnesses on my own terms and ignored when the elders started bullying me to come back and have meetings etc. Good luck brother. Cheers! : )
My husband and I REALLY appreciate your openness and sincerity. You speak from the heart. I’m also separated from my nieces and nephews even though I’m not DF’d. I love them to pieces. But we will be there for them when their parents shun them for leaving the Borg! Don’t lose hope! You’ll be there for them when they need you the most!!!!
Truth Teller. Congratulations. It's a shame what happened to Malawi brothers just for refusing to get the political identity card while the brothers in Mexico were allowed to illegally obtain military service cards.
I am reclaiming my time!!! I have my hobby and I’m enjoying it so much! Before I used to start a hobby projects and wasn’t able to finish it since my free time was preaching, going to meeting, cooking for special meetings, driving others to bible studies! Today I have a better relationship with God than ever, because I have my time to read his word in the mornings while I enjoy my terrace with a cup of coffee and hear the birds and meditate in His Word without bias, praying, talking and expressing myself, I even ask questions! My quality in life is much better and healthier!!! Then I do my hobby crafts- using the abilities that God gave me! Thanks for your video! Safe to all!
@@exjehovahswitness Jesus christ said people will hate and speaking liars about his only true followers Jehovah's witnesses Mathew 5:10-12,24:9,John 15:18-21,Luke 6:22-23.
Your idea about researching topics that are not Watchtower-related is spot on. I dropped out as a young teenager. But I was heavily indoctrinated. I felt inadequate for not having been able to hold on to "the truth". I didn't know I had the RIGHT to form my own opinions on issues, or to develop my own model for how to live my life. I stumbled through my life for many years in this kind of fog. Only in my early 30s did things get a little better. I recently listened to a lecture that Bart Ehrman gave to his college students on the Pauline morals expressed in 1 Conrinthians. In this context, Dr. Ehrman called on his students to form their own moral opinions. He said, "You should not go through life with fuzzy ideas on important topics." I thought that was very well put.
I like that. It is harder than it should be when you are taught as a child to relay on others to form opinions for you but now it is one of the best things in life.
This pisses me off that your grandmother was not allowed to see you before she passed. The governing body members should all be in prison for misleading the rank and file members. Thank you for sharing your story and for your continued activism.
I really enjoyed this. I studied with JW, but got out before getting baptized. That was years ago. I learned more about Jehovah’s Witnesses from you EXJW you-tubers In a few months than in my 6 years of study.
If only critical thinking was allowed in the organization, its members would quickly see the pitfalls and dangers of this indoctrination, like shunning and absurd sex rules. Thank you for sharing your personal story. Sounds like your grandma saw you for you and loved you even though you weren't active as a JW. ❤️🦋
My heart breaks for what you went through/are going through with your family. Thank you for your vulnerability in both the sad and embarrassing. It is so helpful for this community to see they are not alone. Also, excellent advice for those figuring out how to live outside of the cult. Golly gee willikers, you contribute more than you know! I realize this is an old video, but I'm just discovering it now. Your channel has been incredibly helpful to my waking up. Your humor and lightheartedness is what I needed. Sending love from PA. Keep doing you
My 93 yo mother said in a video she wanted to see me/ talk, when she was” feeling better.” On her deathbed, my jw siblings and Brother in law elder said no. She hadn’t spoken to me in 10 years, and died in January. If this is love, and a “ loving god” they follow- I’d never go back. I hear you, and so sorry.
As a disfellowshipped person myself (6 years) all of this sounds so familiar to me. I am so sorry about your grandmother and how you were treated and disrespected. Also about your family and how they are using your nieces and nephews as a tool to make you feel guilty about leaving. It's so fucked up. Shame on them. That was some great advice. Thank you for putting yourself out there so as to help others know that it's okay to leave the organization. Really enjoying your content bro. Keep it up!
Finally listened to your story after watching your videos! So sorry about your grandmother Wally! They completely abandon their humanity! They teach their children “he is bad.” The indoctrination is so complete. It’s so messed up. It’s so twisted that they turn it around and say it’s your fault that they are shunning you. I love your videos! All the best to you!!
WOW; scientifically Pain takes precedence in our Brain, for that reason we have to circumvent traumatic episodes with seemingly useless bits of laughter while also allowing ourselves the release that tears can bring; more healing to you son!
Exactly the same happened to me along with loud insulting comments. The shop was busy and everyone was watching and listening. I was so embarrassed. Yuk!!
Wally I have seen how the shunning works first hand when my grandpa died. Quick background on me is, I was born in and my parents moved 7/8 hours away fading us. I was about 9 when we moved. I saw family maybe every couple of years growing up. The relatives were always asking my parents how active they were and lecturing them. Well about 7 years ago my grandfather died and we all went down for his service. My disfellowshipped cousin was there and she was in the back of the hall. Only one older man approached her the whole time and the exchange was cold . It was bizarre knowing her parents were shunning her and no one was embracing each other . My son was a baby so I walked up to her and introduced my son and hugged her . I stayed with her . After his funeral I didn’t realize at the time she would not be going to this community center room my aunt rented out for eating and talking with everyone. I guess that was not allowed. I had JW’s walking up to me asking who I was and they didn’t even realize that my father was my grandfather’s son. So many years went by that these people didn’t know him only a few older ones. What struck me as odd was they go up and introduce themselves and after I told them who I was they then asked what congregation I was in. There was not any comments on sympathy for my loss. One brother even asked if I was interested in the truth . I walked away from him, because that was inappropriate. I really enjoy your channel Wally and wish you the best !
@24:46 Good point. I think it is important to study things Watchtower told us to hate. I studied how politicians think via- The Dictator's handbook (a book and there are RUclips video on aspects of it). I learned so much that it changed my life, taught me to be a better Black man and the world started to make much more sense. I don't vote but I don't regret learning.
I'm grandma to 8; great-grandma to four. I'm feeling this from your grandma's pov...I can't say here what I feel toward the Borg on her and your behalf since it would violate community rules.😢😢💔💔💔💔Love ya, Wally!❤ P. S. So glad you brought out research issue. Totally agree!
Hi Wally, I know this is late. It sounds trite to say that 'what wounds us makes us stronger', but it is true. I hope that 2 years later, you are well on the way to discovering yourself. Be fearless, don't let the pain be for nothing! 💪
Wow Wally, that story about your grandmother was so sad. But I'm glad to know she loved you and wanted to see you. You must take after her. There is a doctor, Dr Gabor Mate' who has some great insight into ALS and the root cause. His book,"When the Body Says No", illustrates how are bodies say no to stress. I find his talks on You Tube very comforting. So glad you're doing this channel!
Witnesses are not loving ... so sorry your family is doing this to you . The CULT mentality pis strong .. they will regret all this one day ..some of their kids will no doubt leave the Witnesses., hope they are ready to shun them.. shunning our daughter definitely woke us up ..
Wally, my man, sorry you went through all that mess. I also have no support system due to my upbringing. & the things burnt in our brains about flirting & dating.. peace & love bruh🤙🏼🤙🏼
Cult survivor is not an ice breaker, but like you mentioned, people will want to know your background. Cults are much in pop culture right now. Lularich. The vow. The aftermath with Leah Remini has put a big spot light on cults in general and people love car wrecks
Great video as per usual my gorgeous brother, I've been asking myself lately, "why am i even trying to reason with my family members?, why do i even care, if their ignorantly happy being in this cult and devoting their lives to a sick man made organization than who am i to disrupt their happiness"?, but it just burns me up that sooooo many good habits people are being manipulated and brainwashed by this organization😔, so I'm not sure if i even want to contact this journey became i don't think they're gonna hear anything i have to say no matter how much proof i have, I'm already labeled an apostate in their eyes so why even bother. It's a conundrum
Hate that this is the world some has grewn up with in order to save us from "this world". And thank you for telling about that missed appointment in the cave 😅 i've struggled a long time with having a panicattack instead of orgasm... Wonder why...... My boyfriends have had difficult cuz if they make me feel good im having a panicattack because im learned that sex or masturbation or whatevs outside marriage is wrong and that means that i have no chance of being part of life... My upbringing in the cult has learned me that im worthless, cuz mankind can never do right, and the love for "god" always comes before loving your own child. Really sick... Thank you for sharing! Sometimes i want to talk to my parents about all the lies but they're in their 70's and scared that that will be the end of them.
One day, your nieces and nephews will see this and realise the context of a lack of relationship with you. The probability is that they will leave while young and seek you out.
I feel for you. In 1980 a circuit overseer friend in Zimbabwe, with whom I could discuss anything, and I mean anything. eg. Everyone not JW, will be killed. We agreed to differ. He said we must all be careful that we, the congregations don't become a social club or church
@@exjehovahswitness I’m not a jw but my dad was , I was able to be with him the last month of his life he ask me to find a Kingdom Hall when I returned home and start going. I did it took me about 6 months to begin researching. My one and only regret was not being able to share with him what I found out , I know he would not have agreed with me or even listened I just wish I could have shared because now I would have been able to answer his questions .
Oh boy, and I thought that it was just my narsissitic mother... I found out from a third person that my grandma died. Only few days later, my mothers husband (her sugar baby, not my father; he was my childhoods friend) texted me that she died, without any condolences, anything. My grandma raised me, she was my mother. It was so painful to know how cruel can witnesses be. So sickening to hear that you had to live that through as well :(
I highly recommend "Angel of Death" by Adrian Ferrer, and "DiffiCULT" by Charmlene Junis. They are perfect for helping people understand what true evil and cults are.
Really appreciated you talking about the diffulculties of dating after waking up. My diffuculties with flirting and having normal convos led me to a crash. Realizing i had zero game. I crashed and decided to dive deeper and...... its amazing that you learn MORE about jw's when you stop taking jw's seriously word for word. Also love that you use curse words in your vids. Fuck yeah bro
yeah I have a whole thing on dating I just haven't released it yet. Yeah words are descriptive not prescriptive so I don't understand when people get offened at a curse word but then will tell me that I am going to die at Armageddon. The intention matters!
So the Society limits sex to just heterosexual marital sex. But at the same time, contraception is permitted, even encouraged. (For example, couples who remain childless in order to focus fully on the ministry work are held up as examples.) So what is the purpose of sex then, in the Society's opinion? Not baby-making, obviously. And if it's OK to have sex just for fun without the baby-related consequences (contrary to the 'be fruitful and multiply' exhortations in the Bible), what is the problem with people having sex outside of marriage? Or having sex with people of the same gender? All these restrictions traditionally based on sexual conduct were in place in order to ensure men would continue their blood line. They had to make sure their wives' babies were really fathered by them, so women had to be virgins and sex outside of marriage was forbidden. Men were not supposed to waste their 'essence' fooling around with other men, they were supposed to save it for making babies with their wives. Once baby-making is taken out of the equation, everything changes!
@@exjehovahswitness I've thought about that quite a bit. With contraception, I think sex between consenting adults simply has no moral dimension anymore. Morality only applies to actions that affect other people. When sex has the potential to make a baby, obviously there is another interested third party - the baby. But with the advent of reliable contraception, that is simply not the case anymore. If a couple is dating and they have consensual sex with each other, that act affects only them, so morality doesn't come into it. I think the prohibition of gay sex as well as masturbation was also based on a belief that men have a limited lifetime supply of their "essence", so they weren't supposed to squander it because it was needed for baby-making. Today we know that that is not true. A healthy man produces sperm throughout his life. He never runs out! That makes masturbation, again, an act that has no moral dimension. And it also used to be that "continuing the male bloodline" was really important, not just to an invidual man but to his entire family or clan. There had to be a male heir to the throne, or the estate, or the business, or the farm, or whatever. Today, we don't think in such terms anymore, at least not in the Western world.
Any time you take seriously the moral notions of people that lived 100's if not 1,000's of years ago you run into problems. Thomas Jefferson said that we should rewrite the constitution every generation so that it could deal with the problems of the time. I think it is why the new light teaching exists. We can no longer support slavery, new light. All races are equal in the sight of god, new light. Blood magic isn't real, new light. As time progresses we find that our ancestors got some things right and other things wrong so we take the right and dump the wrong. I like how you tie that together with sex though, it is a very good point.
"STOP, LOOK, LISTEN: Luke 8:17 "For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, nor is there anything carefully hidden that will never become known and never come to light." it is part of the new covenant that Jesus made with his disciples to eat the bread that represents his body and drink the wine that represents his blood, how will you have eternal life? (Luke 22:19,20). doctrine of men or the word of GOD?" observe (John ch 3:16,17) 16-“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever exercises faith in him may not be destroyed but have eternal life. 17-For God did not send his Son into the world that he might judge the world, but that the world might be saved through him." observe (John ch 6:53-57) 53- So Jesus said to them, "I say- to you with all certainty: Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves. 54 - He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I do. I will rise again at the last day, 55- for my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56- Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. Just as the Father who lives sent me and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on me will live because of me. the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me". notice what Jesus said: Matthew 23:13 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because they close the kingdom of heaven to men; for you yourselves do not enter, nor do you let in those who are on their way to enter." look at the Conclusion of Jesus (John ch 10: 09,10) 9- I am the door; whoever enters by me will be saved, and will enter and he shall go out, and find pasture.” 10- A thief comes only to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.
the only problem for Jehovah's Witnesses is not to take as an example what Jesus instituted in their memory, which was to eat and drink the emblems in the Lord's Supper! for it is one baptism and one hope of eternal life. Ephesians 4: 4-6 note 4- There is one body and one spirit, just as you were called in a hope to which you were called; 5- one Lord, one faith and one baptism; 6- God, unique and Father of all, who is above all, and through all and in all.
I’m so sorry for your grand mom story! This is a horrible religion! how is it possible all these brainwashing over family relationship! This religion will not disappear (there will always be blind ones) but I just hope as time passes more and more leave this religion so that the giant will become a midget! Like I always say: DOWN WITH THE TOWERRRR!!!! Thank you Wally for sharing your experiences in your videos! We are all here to listen to you if vlogging helps you heal and help others to awake! (Like the magazine has always IRONICALLY told us in our faces: AWAKE!) Be safe!
Jahovah witnesses have a place I think in New York some where, called Bethel. It's where they send the more devoted to finish their ministry training. I remember a couple of years ago one of their members posted on YT that she went to visit Bethel and got into a room that was off limits and was horrified at all the demonic paintings that were hanging all over the walls in this room. As she was crying in outrage showing pictures she had taken I could see for my self that they were all demonic and looked like a place for satanic rituals. Now this place is suppose to be the Headquarters of the Jahovah Witnesses CALLED BETHEL !!!s
What about the restrictions on the types of sex that married couples are allowed to have - missionary style only ... and don't worry a lot of married JW couples don't manage to consummate their marriages until long after the wedding day
@@Ava2969ny @Guitar dude01301 Yes, this is actually true! I had a relative, a young man, who failed to perform on the wedding night. His wife was very upset, she ran to her elder daddy and they contacted the branch office to find out if she could get an annulment! However, the couple worked it out later because they stayed married and had kids. About the missionary position: Read "Crisis of Conscience". At least in the 70s, the Society had rulings about what married couple could and couldn't do in the bedroom. No oral sex, for example.
Yeah it is hard to get sufficient references to make an interesting video on the sex position thing. I looked for like an hour and did not get to far but maybe I should revisit it.
@@exjehovahswitness I remember a case that Ray Franz referenced of a married couple where the husband had an accident and could not have regular sex anymore. So he gave his wife oral sex. But then the Society ruled that oral sex was forbidden. I just pulled out my copy of COC, chapter 3 talks over several pages of the rulings of the GB with regard to the sexual life of married couples.
OMG that is exactly what I was doing. Telling people so much about what was going on about the Jehovah's Witnesses and still some people thought I weird. The second thing is about opposite sex and dating
Your stories and suggestions really resonated with me. Thank you for your content!💪🏽💪🏽 I have a book I wrote and published on the subject that you might enjoy. Where can I send it?
Lmfao this man said he gave her the wet noodle 🤣🤣 I think everybody has embarrassing sex storied outside of being EX jw. I was drinking tequila one night and this girl got so mad at me cause I couldn’t “finish” I had whiskey dick. She was like “just do it it! I can taste it! My throat hurts.” Bless her heart cause she gave everything she had it just wouldn’t come out cause I was drunk. She accused me of cheating but i just had a long day and I was drunk. 🤦🏾♂️ it happens to the best of us. Don’t feel shame.
Horrible the control this org has on people. Brutal is correct, so heartless to deny grandma contact with you. I just don't understand the extremes that some people go to. So sorry you had to experience that.😢
That was cruel. That’s horrific. Shame on them. But your parents will expect you to take care of them wiping their A$$ when known of their ‘friends’ are around to take on that burden.
This guy in my hall who while I saw Pimo showed up with a beard to give a talk and caused a whole bunch of commotion because nobody realized he was giving a talk until 2 min before he was going up. Looking back it is pretty funny
Sorry I got here so late to comment Wally but your story about your grandmother was not only sad it was maddening. How horribly you were treated by your own family! You weren't even DF or DA! I will never understand why people will shun their own flesh and blood because a cult masquerading as a religion tells them to!
I just left. Late 30's, single, during a pandemic. Thank you for your honesty, humor, and vulnerability. This work is essential 🙏🏽
Damn I am sorry that sounds like some rough circumstances! But glad you can come and hang out for my silly videos
❤️
very honest man. I'm 21 and still a jw to please my parents but I am trying to waste as little time as possible in this cult. Your experience and advice has helped alot. Cheers
Well I am happy to hear that I could help. Don't forget to smile and you will get out when it is time!
You'll never please them dude just go live your life
Be careful brother and start making friends outside the jw's with worldly people (yes they are good and kind) and prepping your new life in secret because once you leave everyone will be gone and out of your life so at least you'll have some backup. Just fake it till you make it. Be prepared for the worst and be strong and have your life prepared once you leave that way you won't be in culture shock all alone. Make friends with your co workers and neighbors and get close to your relatives that are not jw's. When I left I already lived a double life and didn't loose a thing. Sure it was crazy but I had my social community and then I shunned the witnesses on my own terms and ignored when the elders started bullying me to come back and have meetings etc. Good luck brother. Cheers! : )
@@patfanortiz8973 spoken like a true, realist. Good job, friend.
The advice about not dumping your JW experience all at once on people is spot on. I made that mistake and people didn't want to hear it.
I totally agree.
Right!! Omg, I wish I had this advice sooner 😂 I've learned my lesson, but this was a good interation.
Judas jah = cool name
My husband and I REALLY appreciate your openness and sincerity. You speak from the heart. I’m also separated from my nieces and nephews even though I’m not DF’d. I love them to pieces. But we will be there for them when their parents shun them for leaving the Borg! Don’t lose hope! You’ll be there for them when they need you the most!!!!
I actually got disfellowshipped for losing my virginity, best decision ever 😂
yee haw!
I was Jehovah's witness too from Malawi 🇲🇼🇲🇼,, I was minestrial servant but now am no longer JW member
Truth Teller. Congratulations. It's a shame what happened to Malawi brothers just for refusing to get the political identity card while the brothers in Mexico were allowed to illegally obtain military service cards.
I am reclaiming my time!!! I have my hobby and I’m enjoying it so much! Before I used to start a hobby projects and wasn’t able to finish it since my free time was preaching, going to meeting, cooking for special meetings, driving others to bible studies!
Today I have a better relationship with God than ever, because I have my time to read his word in the mornings while I enjoy my terrace with a cup of coffee and hear the birds and meditate in His Word without bias, praying, talking and expressing myself, I even ask questions! My quality in life is much better and healthier!!! Then I do my hobby crafts- using the abilities that God gave me!
Thanks for your video!
Safe to all!
I am very happy that you are winning at life now! Keep it up
A great mix of crying and laughter in this video. Thank you for sharing your experience and my condolences about grandma.
tears and smiles is what i'm all about
Thank you for putting yourself out there for us. Really feels comforting to know none of us are ever alone💗
You are very welcome!
@@exjehovahswitness Jesus christ said people will hate and speaking liars about his only true followers Jehovah's witnesses Mathew 5:10-12,24:9,John 15:18-21,Luke 6:22-23.
The Watchtower shunning policy is abominable.
It is indicative of the remainder of their style of Bulls'Hit!
EVERY Watchtower policy is abominable!!!!
Your idea about researching topics that are not Watchtower-related is spot on. I dropped out as a young teenager. But I was heavily indoctrinated. I felt inadequate for not having been able to hold on to "the truth". I didn't know I had the RIGHT to form my own opinions on issues, or to develop my own model for how to live my life. I stumbled through my life for many years in this kind of fog. Only in my early 30s did things get a little better.
I recently listened to a lecture that Bart Ehrman gave to his college students on the Pauline morals expressed in 1 Conrinthians. In this context, Dr. Ehrman called on his students to form their own moral opinions. He said, "You should not go through life with fuzzy ideas on important topics." I thought that was very well put.
I like that. It is harder than it should be when you are taught as a child to relay on others to form opinions for you but now it is one of the best things in life.
This pisses me off that your grandmother was not allowed to see you before she passed. The governing body members should all be in prison for misleading the rank and file members. Thank you for sharing your story and for your continued activism.
Yeah it is hard to imagine just how many people are just like me.. It does keep me motivated
@@exjehovahswitness leaving the Jehovah's witnesses to where John 6:66-68?
@@vusimngomezulu2500 oh hey Vusi good to see you
@@exjehovahswitness What is JW Thoughts according to the bible?
@@vusimngomezulu2500 a cult
I really enjoyed this. I studied with JW, but got out before getting baptized. That was years ago. I learned more about Jehovah’s Witnesses from you EXJW you-tubers In a few months than in my 6 years of study.
sounds about right. good for you on never taking the plunge
If only critical thinking was allowed in the organization, its members would quickly see the pitfalls and dangers of this indoctrination, like shunning and absurd sex rules. Thank you for sharing your personal story. Sounds like your grandma saw you for you and loved you even though you weren't active as a JW. ❤️🦋
If only, but maybe with enough clever effort we can help as many as possible
Reclaiming your time: what did you always say you wanted to do in Paradise as a JW? Go out and do it now!!
hell yeah
Wow, I'm so sorry about your grandmother. Crying right along with you. How were your parents able to misplace their humanity in such a big way?
Pretty sure my mom lost her humanity years ago but the others truly baffles me
I'm so glad my dad was there to stop me from getting baptized as a jw i love god but refuse to be indoctrinated by the watchtower
Your dad is a hero
Thanks for all the hard work you did to make this video. And I did stay for the entire thing.👍
Haha thanks I do appreciate the support my man and hope to keep churning out interesting content
My heart breaks for what you went through/are going through with your family. Thank you for your vulnerability in both the sad and embarrassing. It is so helpful for this community to see they are not alone. Also, excellent advice for those figuring out how to live outside of the cult. Golly gee willikers, you contribute more than you know! I realize this is an old video, but I'm just discovering it now. Your channel has been incredibly helpful to my waking up. Your humor and lightheartedness is what I needed. Sending love from PA. Keep doing you
So sorry -- I feel your pain.
Great video Wally, Thanks for sharing!
Thanks man
My 93 yo mother said in a video she wanted to see me/ talk, when she was” feeling better.”
On her deathbed, my jw siblings and Brother in law elder said no.
She hadn’t spoken to me in 10 years, and died in January.
If this is love, and a “ loving god” they follow- I’d never go back. I hear you, and so sorry.
As a disfellowshipped person myself (6 years) all of this sounds so familiar to me. I am so sorry about your grandmother and how you were treated and disrespected. Also about your family and how they are using your nieces and nephews as a tool to make you feel guilty about leaving. It's so fucked up. Shame on them. That was some great advice. Thank you for putting yourself out there so as to help others know that it's okay to leave the organization. Really enjoying your content bro. Keep it up!
So sorry about your grandmother, this is a cruel heartless organisation, run by fear and hate. The opposite of the love Jesus taught, and forgiveness.
Excellent video, Wally! Thank you so much!
My pleasure!
Dang, I am sorry you went through this and are still going through this😭.
it's rough but freedom is worth it
Finally listened to your story after watching your videos! So sorry about your grandmother Wally! They completely abandon their humanity! They teach their children “he is bad.” The indoctrination is so complete. It’s so messed up. It’s so twisted that they turn it around and say it’s your fault that they are shunning you. I love your videos! All the best to you!!
I love you my brother!
That is very sweet, thank you
Absolutely loved your stories and what you mentioned about making friends. Excellent advice!
Glad you enjoyed. It is really important to look past... well the past... and learn about who you want to be and how to get there.
You are not alone
Thanks. My name is legion for there are many of us
One of my favorites so far! Keep it up. 4 years since waking up and I can agree with all of this 100%
Hey man, glad you enjoyed it. hope things are good with ya
WOW; scientifically Pain takes precedence in our Brain, for that reason we have to circumvent traumatic episodes with seemingly useless bits of laughter while also allowing ourselves the release that tears can bring; more healing to you son!
very true! you have cracked the code to my videos
@@exjehovahswitness I am NO longer a young one. Hind sight being what it is, mostly...painful!
If being "blood guilty" was real..the governing body would be F'd pretty damn bad.
The more you look at their sphere of influence you start to realize just how f'd up they are
I find it so unbelievable that an acquaintance would just turn and walk the other way in the grocery store to avoid you. It's just rude. Simply rude.
Exactly the same happened to me along with loud insulting comments. The shop was busy and everyone was watching and listening. I was so embarrassed. Yuk!!
It happens all the time. Your lifelong friends all sign an invisible contract to ignore you.
Wally I have seen how the shunning works first hand when my grandpa died. Quick background on me is, I was born in and my parents moved 7/8 hours away fading us. I was about 9 when we moved. I saw family maybe every couple of years growing up. The relatives were always asking my parents how active they were and lecturing them. Well about 7 years ago my grandfather died and we all went down for his service. My disfellowshipped cousin was there and she was in the back of the hall. Only one older man approached her the whole time and the exchange was cold . It was bizarre knowing her parents were shunning her and no one was embracing each other . My son was a baby so I walked up to her and introduced my son and hugged her . I stayed with her . After his funeral I didn’t realize at the time she would not be going to this community center room my aunt rented out for eating and talking with everyone. I guess that was not allowed. I had JW’s walking up to me asking who I was and they didn’t even realize that my father was my grandfather’s son. So many years went by that these people didn’t know him only a few older ones. What struck me as odd was they go up and introduce themselves and after I told them who I was they then asked what congregation I was in. There was not any comments on sympathy for my loss. One brother even asked if I was interested in the truth . I walked away from him, because that was inappropriate.
I really enjoy your channel Wally and wish you the best !
@24:46 Good point. I think it is important to study things Watchtower told us to hate. I studied how politicians think via- The Dictator's handbook (a book and there are RUclips video on aspects of it). I learned so much that it changed my life, taught me to be a better Black man and the world started to make much more sense. I don't vote but I don't regret learning.
knowledge is power baby!
I'm grandma to 8; great-grandma to four. I'm feeling this from your grandma's pov...I can't say here what I feel toward the Borg on her and your behalf since it would violate community rules.😢😢💔💔💔💔Love ya, Wally!❤
P. S. So glad you brought out research issue. Totally agree!
Hey Susan, Thanks so much
I’m so sorry to hear about your family. 😞
Thank you, yeah it sucks but fake love sucks more!
Aww my heart goes out to you.
Thank you very much
I love the new map on the wall. I mean the jazz art was awesome, but that map really brightens the room
your last 3 stories: I have to listen now
Glad I didn’t leave at 6 minutes... I would’ve missed the cat at 9:00
Never miss the cat man!
Reminds me of me when I walked away, thanks Walley 😊
My pleasure!
Thank you for inviting home Wally, and sharing your personal intimate 6 stories🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🕉🕉🕉🎱🎱🎱🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
You are so welcome
Hi Wally, I know this is late. It sounds trite to say that 'what wounds us makes us stronger', but it is true. I hope that 2 years later, you are well on the way to discovering yourself. Be fearless, don't let the pain be for nothing!
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Yahuah continue to guide my brother to his real home away from religion. So happy for your awakening.
Wow Wally, that story about your grandmother was so sad. But I'm glad to know she loved you and wanted to see you. You must take after her. There is a doctor, Dr Gabor Mate' who has some great insight into ALS and the root cause. His book,"When the Body Says No", illustrates how are bodies say no to stress. I find his talks on You Tube very comforting. So glad you're doing this channel!
aw man... this makes me cry. I'm so sorry Wally.
Such a fantastic video. I'm still waiting for the Edmond Dantes episode.
Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah maybe a parody of could be pretty funny
Witnesses are not loving ... so sorry your family is doing this to you . The CULT mentality pis strong .. they will regret all this one day ..some of their kids will no doubt leave the Witnesses., hope they are ready to shun them.. shunning our daughter definitely woke us up ..
I think about that when they start shunning their kids how messed up they will feel.
Wally, my man, sorry you went through all that mess. I also have no support system due to my upbringing. & the things burnt in our brains about flirting & dating.. peace & love bruh🤙🏼🤙🏼
I'm so glad you've gotten a mic🤣😂
That's horrible and they think that's loving and they wonder why people get so mad
yeah we are mentally diseased
Sorry about your grandma. And I am sorry your parents tried to rub it in and shame YOU for being bullied
Thanks man
Your stories were so good! I felt badly about your grandma. Your story with the Superman and Lois Lane stenareo was so funny 🙂!
The flirting story hits close to home lmao 🤣 thanks for sharing your experiences.
It's like a bad divorce where the children are used as bargaining chips no matter who gets hurt !!
💖 ty
We are all in this together.
Very good advice.
Glad it was helpful!
Cult survivor is not an ice breaker, but like you mentioned, people will want to know your background.
Cults are much in pop culture right now.
Lularich. The vow. The aftermath with Leah Remini has put a big spot light on cults in general and people love car wrecks
Leaving Watchtower Wise Choice Babylon will be destroyed
Great video as per usual my gorgeous brother, I've been asking myself lately, "why am i even trying to reason with my family members?, why do i even care, if their ignorantly happy being in this cult and devoting their lives to a sick man made organization than who am i to disrupt their happiness"?, but it just burns me up that sooooo many good habits people are being manipulated and brainwashed by this organization😔, so I'm not sure if i even want to contact this journey became i don't think they're gonna hear anything i have to say no matter how much proof i have, I'm already labeled an apostate in their eyes so why even bother. It's a conundrum
Hate that this is the world some has grewn up with in order to save us from "this world". And thank you for telling about that missed appointment in the cave 😅 i've struggled a long time with having a panicattack instead of orgasm... Wonder why...... My boyfriends have had difficult cuz if they make me feel good im having a panicattack because im learned that sex or masturbation or whatevs outside marriage is wrong and that means that i have no chance of being part of life... My upbringing in the cult has learned me that im worthless, cuz mankind can never do right, and the love for "god" always comes before loving your own child. Really sick... Thank you for sharing! Sometimes i want to talk to my parents about all the lies but they're in their 70's and scared that that will be the end of them.
One day, your nieces and nephews will see this and realise the context of a lack of relationship with you. The probability is that they will leave while young and seek you out.
I feel for you. In 1980 a circuit overseer friend in Zimbabwe, with whom I could discuss anything, and I mean anything. eg. Everyone not JW, will be killed. We agreed to differ. He said we must all be careful that we, the congregations don't become a social club or church
This is all the proof you need to know that once you get in, you can never get out and that in itself is a complete catastrophe.
I’m so sorry about your grandmother
Thanks it was not easy
@@exjehovahswitness I’m not a jw but my dad was , I was able to be with him the last month of his life he ask me to find a Kingdom Hall when I returned home and start going. I did it took me about 6 months to begin researching. My one and only regret was not being able to share with him what I found out , I know he would not have agreed with me or even listened I just wish I could have shared because now I would have been able to answer his questions .
well at least you were able to be there to comfort him during his last days on planet earth! Good job
Oh boy, and I thought that it was just my narsissitic mother... I found out from a third person that my grandma died. Only few days later, my mothers husband (her sugar baby, not my father; he was my childhoods friend) texted me that she died, without any condolences, anything. My grandma raised me, she was my mother. It was so painful to know how cruel can witnesses be. So sickening to hear that you had to live that through as well :(
I highly recommend "Angel of Death" by Adrian Ferrer, and "DiffiCULT" by Charmlene Junis. They are perfect for helping people understand what true evil and cults are.
I smile and wave to the jdubs and they can’t help themselves... they smile back
That is fun, I try but maybe I am just to scary looking
I'm so sorry. YT recommended Parts 1&2. So I found your Part 3. This is hard to hear my friend. Hugs! ❤🩹🫂
Intro sounds John Cedars channel
does it? Well I will just burp next time to stand out.
@@exjehovahswitness It clearly does not. Not even close 😂
Awesome video!
Really appreciated you talking about the diffulculties of dating after waking up. My diffuculties with flirting and having normal convos led me to a crash. Realizing i had zero game. I crashed and decided to dive deeper and...... its amazing that you learn MORE about jw's when you stop taking jw's seriously word for word.
Also love that you use curse words in your vids. Fuck yeah bro
yeah I have a whole thing on dating I just haven't released it yet. Yeah words are descriptive not prescriptive so I don't understand when people get offened at a curse word but then will tell me that I am going to die at Armageddon. The intention matters!
@4:27 I am glad you brought up your upbringing as an excuse. Good angle.
My daughters helped me reevaluate my thoughts and opinions on women’s reproductive rights and the LGBTQ+ community
You are right about that. It take several years to get that indoctrine out of your head to perform correctly.
So the Society limits sex to just heterosexual marital sex. But at the same time, contraception is permitted, even encouraged. (For example, couples who remain childless in order to focus fully on the ministry work are held up as examples.) So what is the purpose of sex then, in the Society's opinion? Not baby-making, obviously. And if it's OK to have sex just for fun without the baby-related consequences (contrary to the 'be fruitful and multiply' exhortations in the Bible), what is the problem with people having sex outside of marriage? Or having sex with people of the same gender?
All these restrictions traditionally based on sexual conduct were in place in order to ensure men would continue their blood line. They had to make sure their wives' babies were really fathered by them, so women had to be virgins and sex outside of marriage was forbidden. Men were not supposed to waste their 'essence' fooling around with other men, they were supposed to save it for making babies with their wives. Once baby-making is taken out of the equation, everything changes!
That is a really good point Kate! I might use that in a video
@@exjehovahswitness I've thought about that quite a bit. With contraception, I think sex between consenting adults simply has no moral dimension anymore. Morality only applies to actions that affect other people. When sex has the potential to make a baby, obviously there is another interested third party - the baby. But with the advent of reliable contraception, that is simply not the case anymore. If a couple is dating and they have consensual sex with each other, that act affects only them, so morality doesn't come into it.
I think the prohibition of gay sex as well as masturbation was also based on a belief that men have a limited lifetime supply of their "essence", so they weren't supposed to squander it because it was needed for baby-making. Today we know that that is not true. A healthy man produces sperm throughout his life. He never runs out! That makes masturbation, again, an act that has no moral dimension.
And it also used to be that "continuing the male bloodline" was really important, not just to an invidual man but to his entire family or clan. There had to be a male heir to the throne, or the estate, or the business, or the farm, or whatever. Today, we don't think in such terms anymore, at least not in the Western world.
Any time you take seriously the moral notions of people that lived 100's if not 1,000's of years ago you run into problems. Thomas Jefferson said that we should rewrite the constitution every generation so that it could deal with the problems of the time.
I think it is why the new light teaching exists. We can no longer support slavery, new light. All races are equal in the sight of god, new light. Blood magic isn't real, new light. As time progresses we find that our ancestors got some things right and other things wrong so we take the right and dump the wrong.
I like how you tie that together with sex though, it is a very good point.
I actually remember my grandmother saying I needed to listen to the watchtower and I remember saying the who? Who is that? I had no idea
Waking up from Watchtower at the same time, people are waking up from world events. Hmm, think about it.
In the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses they practice rejecting the blood and body of Christ in the Lord's Supper!
"STOP, LOOK, LISTEN: Luke 8:17 "For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, nor is there anything carefully hidden that will never become known and never come to light." it is part of the new covenant that Jesus made with his disciples to eat the bread that represents his body and drink the wine that represents his blood, how will you have eternal life? (Luke 22:19,20). doctrine of men or the word of GOD?" observe (John ch 3:16,17) 16-“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever exercises faith in him may not be destroyed but have eternal life. 17-For God did not send his Son into the world that he might judge the world, but that the world might be saved through him." observe (John ch 6:53-57) 53- So Jesus said to them, "I say- to you with all certainty: Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves. 54 - He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I do. I will rise again at the last day, 55- for my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56- Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. Just as the Father who lives sent me and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on me will live because of me. the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me". notice what Jesus said: Matthew 23:13 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because they close the kingdom of heaven to men; for you yourselves do not enter, nor do you let in those who are on their way to enter." look at the Conclusion of Jesus (John ch 10: 09,10) 9- I am the door; whoever enters by me will be saved, and will enter and he shall go out, and find pasture.” 10- A thief comes only to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.
the only problem for Jehovah's Witnesses is not to take as an example what Jesus instituted in their memory, which was to eat and drink the emblems in the Lord's Supper! for it is one baptism and one hope of eternal life. Ephesians 4: 4-6 note 4- There is one body and one spirit, just as you were called in a hope to which you were called; 5- one Lord, one faith and one baptism; 6- God, unique and Father of all, who is above all, and through all and in all.
I’m so sorry for your grand mom story! This is a horrible religion! how is it possible all these brainwashing over family relationship!
This religion will not disappear (there will always be blind ones) but I just hope as time passes more and more leave this religion so that the giant will become a midget!
Like I always say: DOWN WITH THE TOWERRRR!!!!
Thank you Wally for sharing your experiences in your videos! We are all here to listen to you if vlogging helps you heal and help others to awake!
(Like the magazine has always IRONICALLY told us in our faces: AWAKE!)
Be safe!
I hope that my videos can help others and maybe give a few laughs along the way
Jahovah witnesses have a place I think in New York some where, called Bethel. It's where they send the more devoted to finish their ministry training. I remember a couple of years ago one of their members posted on YT that she went to visit Bethel and got into a room that was off limits and was horrified at all the demonic paintings that were hanging all over the walls in this room. As she was crying in outrage showing pictures she had taken I could see for my self that they were all demonic and looked like a place for satanic rituals. Now this place is suppose to be the Headquarters of the Jahovah Witnesses CALLED BETHEL !!!s
very true I went through the same thing and I am a woman.
I and they were awkward for 4 years. We broke up. Neither of us were religious. No worries on that front. It just happens.
Cheers to all :D
What about the restrictions on the types of sex that married couples are allowed to have - missionary style only ... and don't worry a lot of married JW couples don't manage to consummate their marriages until long after the wedding day
@@Ava2969ny yea I we need answers 😂
@@Ava2969ny @Guitar dude01301 Yes, this is actually true! I had a relative, a young man, who failed to perform on the wedding night. His wife was very upset, she ran to her elder daddy and they contacted the branch office to find out if she could get an annulment! However, the couple worked it out later because they stayed married and had kids. About the missionary position: Read "Crisis of Conscience". At least in the 70s, the Society had rulings about what married couple could and couldn't do in the bedroom. No oral sex, for example.
Yeah it is hard to get sufficient references to make an interesting video on the sex position thing. I looked for like an hour and did not get to far but maybe I should revisit it.
I still have not read COC, I know, I am a bad apostate. but are there references for the rules?
@@exjehovahswitness I remember a case that Ray Franz referenced of a married couple where the husband had an accident and could not have regular sex anymore. So he gave his wife oral sex. But then the Society ruled that oral sex was forbidden. I just pulled out my copy of COC, chapter 3 talks over several pages of the rulings of the GB with regard to the sexual life of married couples.
Researched abortion. Through the centuries women practiced some sort of abortive techniques.
OMG that is exactly what I was doing. Telling people so much about what was going on about the Jehovah's Witnesses and still some people thought I weird. The second thing is about opposite sex and dating
Yeah telling people you just escaped a cult is a bad idea!
Shunning is pure evil. Its simply a violation of human rights
WHATS very sad is i never got married from all the indoctrination. Thank you for sharing
ahhh.. well freedom is better than fake love
Your stories and suggestions really resonated with me. Thank you for your content!💪🏽💪🏽 I have a book I wrote and published on the subject that you might enjoy. Where can I send it?
Lmfao this man said he gave her the wet noodle 🤣🤣 I think everybody has embarrassing sex storied outside of being EX jw. I was drinking tequila one night and this girl got so mad at me cause I couldn’t “finish” I had whiskey dick. She was like “just do it it! I can taste it! My throat hurts.” Bless her heart cause she gave everything she had it just wouldn’t come out cause I was drunk. She accused me of cheating but i just had a long day and I was drunk. 🤦🏾♂️ it happens to the best of us. Don’t feel shame.
Yeah I have never had a case of whiskey dick but god bless the ones that have to suffer through the funny ED stories
The family has become wickard..they choose to carry out orders of shunning
yeah they are next level witnesses I tell you
Horrible the control this org has on people. Brutal is correct, so heartless to deny grandma contact with you. I just don't understand the extremes that some people go to. So sorry you had to experience that.😢
They can happen just due to nerves or over excitement.
Hit 'er with the ol' wet noodle. 😆😆😆
oh yeah! really out here putting it down lol
That was cruel. That’s horrific. Shame on them. But your parents will expect you to take care of them wiping their A$$ when known of their ‘friends’ are around to take on that burden.
You will be condemned for having a beard, crazy but true.
This guy in my hall who while I saw Pimo showed up with a beard to give a talk and caused a whole bunch of commotion because nobody realized he was giving a talk until 2 min before he was going up. Looking back it is pretty funny
And this is the kind of "god" these humans want to serve!!!!, IT'S ABSOLUTE MADNESS BRO, 😡😡😡😡😡
Sorry I got here so late to comment Wally but your story about your grandmother was not only sad it was maddening. How horribly you were treated by your own family! You weren't even DF or DA! I will never understand why people will shun their own flesh and blood because a cult masquerading as a religion tells them to!