Happy to learn that unused funds will be shared between Sex Matters, Fair Play For Women, Women's Rights Network and Standing for Women - money very well spent in this day and age!
I hate it too, but she is in a legal process and is using legal terms for fear of harming her case. Changing rooms should be sex specific, not gender. Male or female. Any grey area, use the disabled toilet. People in the grey area should just get on with their lives and stop antagonising everyone over the very sensitive subject of non-females entering spaces where girls require privacy. If need be, change the name of the disabled toilet to disabled and inclusive.
The problem is the term "gender" was introduced as a way to produce an ambiguity between that and biological sex. It started with sex being fixed but gender is the interpretation of sex, it doesn't hold up to scrutinity but once you dilute a meaning, it can be tough to start talking about reality.
They are the normal, everyday beliefs of most people and every previous generation of human history. The push of beliefs based on ideas of ‘kindness’ have been warped beyond all commonsense by dishonest actors and their attempt to make everyone conform to their misplaced notions of kindness and ‘inclusivity’ is just a masked form of control.
Emma Hardy is sticking up for her children & everyone else's children...plus anyone that may use such a gym. She's caring, has intelligence, morals & above all, is a woman of principle. I'm the same in life, I challenge the wrongs, it's very difficult to do...but it has to be done. I reach out to others who read this, please challenge what's not right & by whoever is doing the wrongs. It's the only way things can change for the better. We all need to show we have a backbone. Well done Emma & I hope a positive result comes of this, for you & your children.
It just amazes me that these companies/institutions persevere with their stance, up to the point of going to court, and they lose. Why are they so blind?
As a retired clinical social worker and therapist who luckily retired back in 2014 - if anyone had told me at that time that we would someday be dealing with the concept of "gender" - being "reborn" as an ideologically brain-dead, quasi-religious, scarification cult - I would have thought them barking-mad. So much for my prognostication abilities. : /
This is so ignorant to think this policy isn’t open for certain men to take advantage of women and children. Women and children’s safeguarding has gone out the window. Shame on David Lloyd.
Emma Hardy is clearly a thoughtful, considerate, determined mother who, as right thinking people do, has the wellbeing of her children as paramount. To my simple mind, these ‘woke’ gyms and other providers of facilities could provide three sets of WCs and changing facilities; ‘male’, ‘female’, ‘not bothered’, with ‘biological’ prefacing each. Or am I really, really simple minded? I suspect I’m absolutely full of common sense.
The common sense part is the problem. It is intuitively true that men and women require their own spaces. Yet it is illegal to have male only gyms and other facilities yet there are women only gyms and spaces. Since this double standard has been permitted, it has created a standard for which picking and choosing application of the law can be done based on word dances.
But there's no reason why a fully transitioned male to female individual use the women's changing rooms. The individual has every right to use the women's changing rooms. Emma Hardy should wake up and realise that!!
@@PeterPete thanks for your opinion, now tell us why we should care about what you think? Maybe it is you that needs to "wake up"? When a person "feels" like they are in the wrong body they always turn to changing the body, not the mind.
I can understand your point in that it is a mental health problem but unfortunately we live in a society that allows people to be whatever they want to be in life. So if a man wants to be a woman they can be one and vice versa. It's not my fault 'responsible' adults in the UK produce messed up offspring 👍 You should direct your blame at the very parents who give birth to these people. While you're at it, can you also blame the people who bring into the world an unwanted child. What about the many promiscuous men in UK society? Do you think they've contributed to the rise in messed up children (adults) over the years? Many of society's problems are down to shagging the wrong people!! But it's to be expected when people aren't given a proper education. Oh and just think of all of those job losses in the Courts, solicitors, Police, social workers etc if people stopped shaggin the wrong people? Wouldn't society just be so wonderful if people stopped acting like animals 👍 @@robaudi20v
Emma, if you read these comments, i've now watched this twice & listened carefully. I'd say i'm of a similar age & hold the same values & principles as you. You mentioned it's maybe an old fashioned way...not showing your family videos etc to others, like many do these days. It's because you don't need validation, you're secure within your own right & your families rights. My daughter & I are the same. You're a stand out human being & family...I'm full of admiration for you in fighting this & as an individual. We're right behind you.
Thank you. I feel unsafe as a biological female. We have just passed a bill that furthers the privacy and safety of women in government buildings in our state. Each building must also have a single unisex toilet which locks on the inside, and you go by your birth certificate or have the full operation. I shop online rather than use brick and mortar to avoid the Woke stuff at commercial and retail buildings. This is a very intelligent woman.
In my Australian state there are a lot of engendered bathrooms. They were built before this nonsense. Some seem to date to the 1960s. But they are bathrooms not cubicles. They have solid doors and walls, a toilet, a sink, and often a babies change table. I often think adopting this idea would be one way of keeping women safe.
she echoes the views of the vast majority of the population in the UK: God save ALL of us from the perverts who want to force their sick ideas on the rest of us.
My just turned 5-year old grand-daughter is very insistent upon her privacy being respected when she goes to the loo. Should she require help, it's Nanny or Mum who attend. Blokes are a definite "No-No". Maybe her Dad at a pinch 😊
My question is, why does the pupil who is suing the Michaela school (on unreadonable grounds) get £100,000 legal aid yet this person with a reasonable grievance has to crowd fund?
Sounds like it's going to be expensive. I applaud the bravery of the attempt, but the judicial system is there to represent the power structures and ideologies of the moment. Presumably whoever gets to decide which judge rules over the case gets to decide the outcome. A judge approaching retirement might have what I would describe as a sensible view, whereas a judge with a career still ahead of them likely would not.
This is excellent interview and bravo to Mrs. Hardy. I will applaud her bravery by going to her crowd funding website. Please, Mr. Whittle, bring her back to provide updates on her situation, and more regularly as part of your discussion groups.
If this was not designed to harm women they would go to the expense of individual change rooms and bathrooms, and I mean rooms not cubicles. Same goes for schools etc. This is not really about catering for the small number of people with gender dysphoria or they would choose other solutions.
So David Lloyds Gyms are more fearful of the wrath of trans activists than the wrath of mothers, grandmothers, aunts and sisters? I’m a great grandma and I think I fear the wrath of the latter.
The point she is making is that they cannot vote with their feet, because the gym is hiding its policy, which is also the basis for her suit - basically, miss-selling.
This is how they win. In 1938, it was Czechoslovakia, in 1939 it was Poland, in April 1940, it was Denmark and Norway. The Dutch and the Belgians clung to their neutrality. They were next. Decent people should not allow themselves to be forced out of the public space and these gyms may be private property but they are public space in the same way that privately owned newsagents are public spaces and are not permitted to display pornography where it would be accessible to children etc.
I wish Emma good luck with her case, but knowing how corrupt the courts are, I won't expect a positive outcome. I'd refuse to use any facility that expects me to undress in front of men.
How many people will just start boycotting after a male invades the women's changing room, to their surprise. It's not enough to personally boycott on the basis of a hidden abhorrent policy. It must become public knowledge.
Well, I think you are right, if enough of their members did quit this gym, they would be forced to make radical changes as they would not want to go out of business. I sincerely wish Emma Hardy all the very best with all of this, because the view's on this matter mainly from people on the left in our society who allow themselves to go along with all of this bullshit, will come to see in time the pure nonsense of their arguments regarding this very important issue.
I've done just that. The David Lloyd I used to attend until very recently had very tired equipment, unhelpful staff (not everyone) and overcharged for everything. They spent a fortune on installing solar panels to virtue signal but could'nt give a toss for their members. I've joined a Brimhams gym which has better and newer equipment, and I can go at any time I want and it is half the price.
It's not only not right to have single sex changing rooms, because women, girls, boys and men need their privacy from the opposite sex, with obvious reasons why men should not be able to share a changing room with young girls and women, but also because a woman could accuse a man of rape etc. It's not just the safety of girls and women, but the safety of men too. The majority of men, are good, decent men.
As an older woman I find the thought of being in a state of undress in front of others horrific. Even in a swimming baths there are cubicles for privacy. You wouldn't catch me dead in a place where I have to undress in front of others.
@@angelmessenger8240I feel exactly the same. And I did when I was young too. Even in primary school we all got changed in the toilets. Not where other girls can watch.
In my Australian state most public toilets are unisex. This predates this nonsense. I think the reasoning was more like say a man takes his daughter to the park and she needs to go to the toilet. If it's a unisex toilet the father can inspect there is no one lurking and no syringes or other hazards, before his daughter uses it. He couldn't do this if they are separated by sex. In some toilets separated by sex men don't have access to change tables for babies either. These unisex toilets are rooms with solid walls and doors not cubicles. And they ussually have a toilet, a hand sink and often a babies change table. If gyms and schools really wanted to deal with this problem they could do so in this way. The fact that they don't show their is evil at play.
@@apebass2215 That's an excellent question. They are sensible in places where responsible adults are present. I've only struck unisex toilets for the 4-6 year olds, who are not really in danger. I guess if teachers want this nonsense they should be made to supervise. Actually here a large number of parents choose small private Christian schools. They are not expensive or elitist. But for many families if it's a choice between your kids learning about Jesus or 50 ways to change your gender, it's a no brainer. I know the toilets at my grandkids school are proper bathrooms. I've used the girls bathroom, it had a toilet, a sink, with pretty soaps, a mirror, and a shelf with sanitary napkins for girls old enough to reach the shelf. But they are nominated as boys or girls. Even in the 70s and 80s girls often got bashed by gangs of other girls in the toilets of government schools. I went to a religious highschool for this reason and so did my daughters. The school's I describe might only have 50- 90 students so if an incident occurs the culprit is easily identified and expelled. Whereas government schools don't expel violent kids.
The idea that biological sex is on a spectrum and therefore difficult to clearly define, is a complete distortion of the truth. For the vast majority of people there is no ambiguity. Their biological characteristics align with either male or female. There is a very small minority of people whose biological characteristics are not so clear-cut, but the existence of anomalies does not invalidate the general rule. People who are teaching this guff about 'spectrums' are distorting the facts to support the dictates of their political ideology. They should, therefore, be sacked - they are doing immense harm.
Great to see. We need to fight back. Thankfully I am a member at Bannatynes and I will be staying there. I considered moving to David Lloyds, but having watched this I definitely won't be!!
I left David Lloyd over this. Their changing rooms are communal, with only one cubicle in the female area. It’s hard for me to be naked around other women, even harder when little boys are in there with their Mums, some looking as old as10-11. So the thought of encountering a Man was just too much for me. I left. I didn’t complain because abuse it would only cause strife for me and I preferred to just leave. But I am very grateful to this brave lady.
Unfortunately 10 year old boys are no more capable of defending themselves against adult dodgy blokes in changing rooms than you are, hence mothers bringing them in to the womans changing rooms when access to family spaces are not available. I appreciate that this can be a difficult situation, and I certainly think that this should be a last resort and not the norm and certainly not when there are family spaces provided.
This is the problem. You should have complained at the gym and told them you'll no longer be using it. You're not helping yourself or any other girls and women by being silent as silence is not always golden. I do hope you have the courage to do so in the future.
My partner just said this: If its a matter of of jow the person is presenting, then once they remove the clothing, they are no longer presenting as what you are claiming. They are presenting as what they ARae, biologically. Therefore, if there is a potential for that person to remove their clothes, then this policy does not apply .
No need to sue David Lloyd just! don't use their Gyms if they have any business sense they will soon change their policy or don't use the changing rooms. it is difficult for a company in this day and age to appease all genders under the law. But we still have the right to not do something, belong to, be a member of, etc.
More people need to stand up!!! 👏 It's very simple..... If YOU are ambiguous in your identity then YOU must adapt NOT EVERYONE ELSE...... WE have a mixed changing room..... Its very small and we only used it for mixed parent/child usage.... If a MAN enters CLAIMING to be a woman then HE MAY use that room OR if HE causes an ISSUE IN ANY WAY HE MAY LEAVE... END OF STORY..... ITS MY BUSINESS AND I MAKE THE RULES
I would argue being placed at risk would reach the threshold as a damage if the risk and consequences are high enough. An unwilling game of Russian roulette can serve as an example. Furthermore there is the question of balancing, as someone claiming being a women when being a man should normally be regarded a claim of an insane pervert and hence be considered extremely high risk - just by the claim made.
Book of Revelation. All there is shall be swept away and there will be judgement, followed by a new heaven and earth. Then the devil is chained for a thousand years to give humanity a chance to build back up. Faith in Christ is the thing for me to work on now and if you're not baptised you might want to look into it.
@@leigh-mariehamilton3361 Possibly, but I've just looked on their website and the clubs are all located in larger population centres where there will be alternatives, if not necessarily with comparable facilities.
Im a member of a gym chain. A few months ago i was walking out of the shower and there was a woman in our changing rooms using the scales. She turned around and shouted t me, 'do you mind??!'. I said 'it's the male changing rooms'..then a man jumped up getting in my face, presumably her boyfriend. I assured him in no uncertain terms that he would be making a gross error of judgement if he didnt back off and escort his g/f from our changing room. Imagine if a man was in women's changing rooms as they are walking round butt naked..This entire gender thing is madness and it's not just trans 'men' who can have a sense of entitlement.
I don't mind how people wish to gender identify but there are practical problems to be addressed. You can have unisex or "trans friendly" changing rooms for people who don't mind this but separate changing rooms for people who do. It works both ways, men may also wish for privacy. Then I expect service providers will complain about the expense. But it's for governments who wish to push this agenda to foot the bill with subsidies.
What is your specific cause in action? I only ask because as I understand it, DL has no specific obligation in law to provide the kind of protection in changing rooms you’re seeking.
People can put them out of business. Simply boycott the organization and all they're affiliated with. Nothing drives the message like loss of revenue. People can and people should put them out of business. If you have a membership to David Lloyd, cancel it, if you know others that have membership then have them cancel too.
I keep several copies of Miriam Elia's (Dung Beetle Books) excellent, spoof, 'Ladybird' reading primer, entitled 'WE DO LOCKDOWN', to give away to guests who desperately require 'educating'. This is the most concise, and excoriating, analysis of THE JOHNSON YEARS you will see. And it is beautifully produced.
To help crowdfund in support of Emma Hardy's law suit, please visit: democracythree.org/help-emma-sue-david-lloyd
Happy to learn that unused funds will be shared between Sex Matters, Fair Play For Women, Women's Rights Network and Standing for Women - money very well spent in this day and age!
I donated a few quid. It's the least I can do.
That link doesn't lead anywhere. Just a message about temporary website maintenance, no donation page 😵💫🙁
I really hate the term "gender critical". I am not critical, I recognise biological fact.
Exactly 💯
I hate it too, but she is in a legal process and is using legal terms for fear of harming her case. Changing rooms should be sex specific, not gender. Male or female. Any grey area, use the disabled toilet. People in the grey area should just get on with their lives and stop antagonising everyone over the very sensitive subject of non-females entering spaces where girls require privacy. If need be, change the name of the disabled toilet to disabled and inclusive.
The problem is the term "gender" was introduced as a way to produce an ambiguity between that and biological sex. It started with sex being fixed but gender is the interpretation of sex, it doesn't hold up to scrutinity but once you dilute a meaning, it can be tough to start talking about reality.
🐂💩 critical
Same thing they did with vaccines. When you redefine the word to have no meaning then everything is a safe and effective vaccine.
I support real women standing up for real women's and girls issues. Kudos to this woman for doing just that
Where are all the “real” men?
Well done Emma Hardy - millions support you , both men and women . This nonsense has to stop.
They're not "gender critical beliefs". They are facts.
It a great piece of marketing, isn't it? The gender critical beliefs are the other bunch of whack jobs who think there's 150ish.
In this toxic feminist culture, feelings dont care about facts. truth is subjective, and science is a straight white male social construct.
They are the normal, everyday beliefs of most people and every previous generation of human history. The push of beliefs based on ideas of ‘kindness’ have been warped beyond all commonsense by dishonest actors and their attempt to make everyone conform to their misplaced notions of kindness and ‘inclusivity’ is just a masked form of control.
This woman should be applauded.
but could be raped, if the current madness of cross gender AND mass migration continues
Go for it - I fell out with David Lloyd gyms - their business practices are appalling.
Not as appalling as their prices.
What do they do wrong?
I did too!
Emma Hardy is sticking up for her children & everyone else's children...plus anyone that may use such a gym.
She's caring, has intelligence, morals & above all, is a woman of principle.
I'm the same in life, I challenge the wrongs, it's very difficult to do...but it has to be done.
I reach out to others who read this, please challenge what's not right & by whoever is doing the wrongs.
It's the only way things can change for the better.
We all need to show we have a backbone.
Well done Emma & I hope a positive result comes of this, for you & your children.
It just amazes me that these companies/institutions persevere with their stance, up to the point of going to court, and they lose. Why are they so blind?
Because it is about normalising something that should not be normalised they know they will lose at court. By that time the damage is already done
I think it's fear of media onslaught and distortion.
The judges are also Woke! They won’t lose.
As a retired clinical social worker and therapist who luckily retired back in 2014 - if anyone had told me at that time that we would someday be dealing with the concept of "gender" - being "reborn" as an ideologically brain-dead, quasi-religious, scarification cult - I would have thought them barking-mad. So much for my prognostication abilities. : /
They ATE barking mad.
I studied social work in the late 90s the course was full of this back then, but I never thought it would go mainstream.
This is so ignorant to think this policy isn’t open for certain men to take advantage of women and children. Women and children’s safeguarding has gone out the window. Shame on David Lloyd.
he's LGBT plus sensitive, clearly ...
Brave woman! Thanks from all of us biological women who are concerned for our rights and safety being taken from us.
Emma Hardy is clearly a thoughtful, considerate, determined mother who, as right thinking people do, has the wellbeing of her children as paramount.
To my simple mind, these ‘woke’ gyms and other providers of facilities could provide three sets of WCs and changing facilities; ‘male’, ‘female’, ‘not bothered’, with ‘biological’ prefacing each.
Or am I really, really simple minded?
I suspect I’m absolutely full of common sense.
The common sense part is the problem. It is intuitively true that men and women require their own spaces. Yet it is illegal to have male only gyms and other facilities yet there are women only gyms and spaces. Since this double standard has been permitted, it has created a standard for which picking and choosing application of the law can be done based on word dances.
But there's no reason why a fully transitioned male to female individual use the women's changing rooms. The individual has every right to use the women's changing rooms. Emma Hardy should wake up and realise that!!
@@PeterPete thanks for your opinion, now tell us why we should care about what you think?
Maybe it is you that needs to "wake up"?
When a person "feels" like they are in the wrong body they always turn to changing the body, not the mind.
I can understand your point in that it is a mental health problem but unfortunately we live in a society that allows people to be whatever they want to be in life.
So if a man wants to be a woman they can be one and vice versa. It's not my fault 'responsible' adults in the UK produce messed up offspring 👍
You should direct your blame at the very parents who give birth to these people. While you're at it, can you also blame the people who bring into the world an unwanted child. What about the many promiscuous men in UK society? Do you think they've contributed to the rise in messed up children (adults) over the years?
Many of society's problems are down to shagging the wrong people!! But it's to be expected when people aren't given a proper education.
Oh and just think of all of those job losses in the Courts, solicitors, Police, social workers etc if people stopped shaggin the wrong people?
Wouldn't society just be so wonderful if people stopped acting like animals 👍 @@robaudi20v
@@PeterPete I suspect that you are the one needing the "wake up"..
She is a proper person and right 100% well done
Takes a strong person like Emma to challenge this hideous situation. 'use another gym' isnt the answer
Emma, if you read these comments, i've now watched this twice & listened carefully.
I'd say i'm of a similar age & hold the same values & principles as you. You mentioned it's maybe an old fashioned way...not showing your family videos etc to others, like many do these days.
It's because you don't need validation, you're secure within your own right & your families rights. My daughter & I are the same.
You're a stand out human being & family...I'm full of admiration for you in fighting this & as an individual.
We're right behind you.
Thank you. I feel unsafe as a biological female. We have just passed a bill that furthers the privacy and safety of women in government buildings in our state. Each building must also have a single unisex toilet which locks on the inside, and you go by your birth certificate or have the full operation. I shop online rather than use brick and mortar to avoid the Woke stuff at commercial and retail buildings.
This is a very intelligent woman.
In my Australian state there are a lot of engendered bathrooms. They were built before this nonsense. Some seem to date to the 1960s. But they are bathrooms not cubicles. They have solid doors and walls, a toilet, a sink, and often a babies change table. I often think adopting this idea would be one way of keeping women safe.
Full operation still does not make a man a woman, he is just castrating himself..
How ridiculous the current situation is.What a sensible mum this lady is.👍
she echoes the views of the vast majority of the population in the UK: God save ALL of us from the perverts who want to force their sick ideas on the rest of us.
Couldn't have agreed more! Shame on David Lloyd for dismissing the safety of girls and women - good luck Emma, right behind you! XX
My just turned 5-year old grand-daughter is very insistent upon her privacy being respected when she goes to the loo. Should she require help, it's Nanny or Mum who attend. Blokes are a definite "No-No". Maybe her Dad at a pinch 😊
My question is, why does the pupil who is suing the Michaela school (on unreadonable grounds) get £100,000 legal aid yet this person with a reasonable grievance has to crowd fund?
White privilege!!😂
Because it’s a massive evil all connected and controlled by the same group of people! All of this crap don’t happen by accident
She's not from the religion of peace.
We both know why
What an absolute hero of a woman.
Sounds like it's going to be expensive. I applaud the bravery of the attempt, but the judicial system is there to represent the power structures and ideologies of the moment. Presumably whoever gets to decide which judge rules over the case gets to decide the outcome. A judge approaching retirement might have what I would describe as a sensible view, whereas a judge with a career still ahead of them likely would not.
I used to go to DL. Doesn't surprise me they've done this. Definitely not going back now.
100% agree with Emma. Well done for pursuing this madness.
Well done , you have my support its such a shame parants dont think it could be them with this issue . People to to stand up.
Good luck lady.
I'll 'never' use DL gym.
they're potty status symbols anyway
Greetings, fellow grounded folk! 🥳🙏🏼👌🏼
This is excellent interview and bravo to Mrs. Hardy. I will applaud her bravery by going to her crowd funding website. Please, Mr. Whittle, bring her back to provide updates on her situation, and more regularly as part of your discussion groups.
A step in the right direction to reign in the perverts.
Well done this brave REAL WOMAN!
Good on that lady. Its disgraceful not having seperate changing rooms for male and female users of the gym.
If this was not designed to harm women they would go to the expense of individual change rooms and bathrooms, and I mean rooms not cubicles. Same goes for schools etc. This is not really about catering for the small number of people with gender dysphoria or they would choose other solutions.
So David Lloyds Gyms are more fearful of the wrath of trans activists than the wrath of mothers, grandmothers, aunts and sisters? I’m a great grandma and I think I fear the wrath of the latter.
Boycott
Good on you.
I don’t won’t women in the men’s changing area either
I thought this was Emma Hardy, my Hull MP. That would have surprised me as she represents Labour and probably doesn't know a man from a woman.
You should ask her whether she knows the difference.
She never answers difficult emails.@@apebass2215
What a woman! Congratulations, Emma! A glimmer of brightening sanity in this befogged nightmare of our debased culture!
Well done Mrs Hardy! Bravo!
People should just vote with their feet. That’s the only thing that works.
The point she is making is that they cannot vote with their feet, because the gym is hiding its policy, which is also the basis for her suit - basically, miss-selling.
This is how they win. In 1938, it was Czechoslovakia, in 1939 it was Poland, in April 1940, it was Denmark and Norway. The Dutch and the Belgians clung to their neutrality. They were next. Decent people should not allow themselves to be forced out of the public space and these gyms may be private property but they are public space in the same way that privately owned newsagents are public spaces and are not permitted to display pornography where it would be accessible to children etc.
This needs to go to court for a test case.
I wish Emma good luck with her case, but knowing how corrupt the courts are, I won't expect a positive outcome. I'd refuse to use any facility that expects me to undress in front of men.
How can anybody be confused about biological sex ???? It’s beyond belief…….
Donated ✅️. Thank you for all that you're doing for women and girls
Boycott simple as that. Cancel your memberships and go to another gym. David Lloyd over charge any way. The world can be your gym.
Gyms gym controversy
How many people will just start boycotting after a male invades the women's changing room, to their surprise.
It's not enough to personally boycott on the basis of a hidden abhorrent policy. It must become public knowledge.
Well, I think you are right, if enough of their members did quit this gym, they would be forced to make radical changes as they would not want to go out of business. I sincerely wish Emma Hardy all the very best with all of this, because the view's on this matter mainly from people on the left in our society who allow themselves to go along with all of this bullshit, will come to see in time the pure nonsense of their arguments regarding this very important issue.
I've done just that. The David Lloyd I used to attend until very recently had very tired equipment, unhelpful staff (not everyone) and overcharged for everything. They spent a fortune on installing solar panels to virtue signal but could'nt give a toss for their members. I've joined a Brimhams gym which has better and newer equipment, and I can go at any time I want and it is half the price.
@@frednerk8366 I just did some Wieghts at home went for a 100 mile bike ride and now off out with my daughter to the park. Gyms are not the answer.
Well done to Emma, it takes brave women like her to change the course of history.
It's not only not right to have single sex changing rooms, because women, girls, boys and men need their privacy from the opposite sex, with obvious reasons why men should not be able to share a changing room with young girls and women, but also because a woman could accuse a man of rape etc. It's not just the safety of girls and women, but the safety of men too. The majority of men, are good, decent men.
As an older woman I find the thought of being in a state of undress in front of others horrific. Even in a swimming baths there are cubicles for privacy. You wouldn't catch me dead in a place where I have to undress in front of others.
@@angelmessenger8240I feel exactly the same. And I did when I was young too. Even in primary school we all got changed in the toilets. Not where other girls can watch.
In my Australian state most public toilets are unisex. This predates this nonsense. I think the reasoning was more like say a man takes his daughter to the park and she needs to go to the toilet. If it's a unisex toilet the father can inspect there is no one lurking and no syringes or other hazards, before his daughter uses it. He couldn't do this if they are separated by sex. In some toilets separated by sex men don't have access to change tables for babies either. These unisex toilets are rooms with solid walls and doors not cubicles. And they ussually have a toilet, a hand sink and often a babies change table. If gyms and schools really wanted to deal with this problem they could do so in this way. The fact that they don't show their is evil at play.
@@grannyannie2948 how is a father supposed to check no one is lurking in his daughter's unisex toilet in school?
@@apebass2215 That's an excellent question. They are sensible in places where responsible adults are present. I've only struck unisex toilets for the 4-6 year olds, who are not really in danger. I guess if teachers want this nonsense they should be made to supervise.
Actually here a large number of parents choose small private Christian schools. They are not expensive or elitist. But for many families if it's a choice between your kids learning about Jesus or 50 ways to change your gender, it's a no brainer.
I know the toilets at my grandkids school are proper bathrooms. I've used the girls bathroom, it had a toilet, a sink, with pretty soaps, a mirror, and a shelf with sanitary napkins for girls old enough to reach the shelf. But they are nominated as boys or girls.
Even in the 70s and 80s girls often got bashed by gangs of other girls in the toilets of government schools. I went to a religious highschool for this reason and so did my daughters. The school's I describe might only have 50- 90 students so if an incident occurs the culprit is easily identified and expelled. Whereas government schools don't expel violent kids.
The idea that biological sex is on a spectrum and therefore difficult to clearly define, is a complete distortion of the truth. For the vast majority of people there is no ambiguity. Their biological characteristics align with either male or female. There is a very small minority of people whose biological characteristics are not so clear-cut, but the existence of anomalies does not invalidate the general rule. People who are teaching this guff about 'spectrums' are distorting the facts to support the dictates of their political ideology. They should, therefore, be sacked - they are doing immense harm.
Great to see. We need to fight back. Thankfully I am a member at Bannatynes and I will be staying there. I considered moving to David Lloyds, but having watched this I definitely won't be!!
Needs lot more court cases, and membership cancellations. Gender is determined by chromosomes not feelings
You go, Girl! I wish you all the success!
Female Need To LEAVE David Lloyd and Join Bannatyne Gyms MONEY COUNTS
Private Gyms are better!
"Infection". That is the word. Exactly right Peter.
A national hero, may I suggest, superb.
Sensible women & Mum Just Boycott David Lloyd Gyms !!
I salute this decent lady x
Thank you for standing up against this madness.
Boycott the place !!!!!
Good on her. I fully support you!
I just hope Emma and her lawyers aren't tempted to settle out of court and sign a None Disclosure Agreement.
I left David Lloyd over this. Their changing rooms are communal, with only one cubicle in the female area. It’s hard for me to be naked around other women, even harder when little boys are in there with their Mums, some looking as old as10-11. So the thought of encountering a Man was just too much for me. I left. I didn’t complain because abuse it would only cause strife for me and I preferred to just leave. But I am very grateful to this brave lady.
Unfortunately 10 year old boys are no more capable of defending themselves against adult dodgy blokes in changing rooms than you are, hence mothers bringing them in to the womans changing rooms when access to family spaces are not available. I appreciate that this can be a difficult situation, and I certainly think that this should be a last resort and not the norm and certainly not when there are family spaces provided.
This is the problem. You should have complained at the gym and told them you'll no longer be using it. You're not helping yourself or any other girls and women by being silent as silence is not always golden. I do hope you have the courage to do so in the future.
Good for you!
EXCELLENT
My partner just said this: If its a matter of of jow the person is presenting, then once they remove the clothing, they are no longer presenting as what you are claiming. They are presenting as what they ARae, biologically. Therefore, if there is a potential for that person to remove their clothes, then this policy does not apply .
In the real world yes. But these guys say their 🍆 is female because they are female.
It's all nonsense
This woman is brilliant 👍
I admire this woman for being so proactive & having the fortitude to follow through with her principles. THANK YOU.
No need to sue David Lloyd just! don't use their Gyms if they have any business sense they will soon change their policy or don't use the changing rooms. it is difficult for a company in this day and age to appease all genders under the law. But we still have the right to not do something, belong to, be a member of, etc.
Well done this wonderful woman
Good luck with the case. I'm surprised it's just one case. If I was a women I'd join you.
More people need to stand up!!!
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It's very simple..... If YOU are ambiguous in your identity then YOU must adapt NOT EVERYONE ELSE...... WE have a mixed changing room..... Its very small and we only used it for mixed parent/child usage.... If a MAN enters CLAIMING to be a woman then HE MAY use that room OR if HE causes an ISSUE IN ANY WAY HE MAY LEAVE... END OF STORY..... ITS MY BUSINESS AND I MAKE THE RULES
A very articulate lady.
I would argue being placed at risk would reach the threshold as a damage if the risk and consequences are high enough. An unwilling game of Russian roulette can serve as an example. Furthermore there is the question of balancing, as someone claiming being a women when being a man should normally be regarded a claim of an insane pervert and hence be considered extremely high risk - just by the claim made.
There is XX and XY and that's not being 'critical'
I hope you don't mind me saying as a man. "ex armed forces " A man is a man. A woman is a woman. No ifs or buts. Keep the children safe.
Very well said!
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Good on you Emma. I hope and pray you will have success.
Well done and good luck to this lady.
Western culture have given us the best democratic countries in history and now we throw it all down the drain. Sad.
Book of Revelation. All there is shall be swept away and there will be judgement, followed by a new heaven and earth. Then the devil is chained for a thousand years to give humanity a chance to build back up. Faith in Christ is the thing for me to work on now and if you're not baptised you might want to look into it.
Very good luck to you. Ladies do require peace and privacy at times, and children need to be protected.
Well done Emma. Helping to protect children all over the UK. Think I will be avoiding David Lloyd gyms in the future.
This is disgusting and is plainly a case of indecent exposure 😮!
Good on you Emma well said -ask them is this a Nudist Club ?
Excellent. Well done everyone concerned.
Great discussion
Good luck!
Why frig about in court, when you can simply take your custom elsewhere.
It is the Principle but maybe other Gyms might be miles away.
@@leigh-mariehamilton3361 Possibly, but I've just looked on their website and the clubs are all located in larger population centres where there will be alternatives, if not necessarily with comparable facilities.
Can't say this enough. PEOPLE need privacy, men and women not just women. Using the world girls was intentionally emotive.
Who are the world girls?
Well done for taking on this ludicrous situation. Wishing you every success. Let's hope common sense wins.
Im a member of a gym chain. A few months ago i was walking out of the shower and there was a woman in our changing rooms using the scales. She turned around and shouted t me, 'do you mind??!'. I said 'it's the male changing rooms'..then a man jumped up getting in my face, presumably her boyfriend. I assured him in no uncertain terms that he would be making a gross error of judgement if he didnt back off and escort his g/f from our changing room.
Imagine if a man was in women's changing rooms as they are walking round butt naked..This entire gender thing is madness and it's not just trans 'men' who can have a sense of entitlement.
This woman is a heroine. She definitely deserves to win.
I don't mind how people wish to gender identify but there are practical problems to be addressed. You can have unisex or "trans friendly" changing rooms for people who don't mind this but separate changing rooms for people who do. It works both ways, men may also wish for privacy. Then I expect service providers will complain about the expense. But it's for governments who wish to push this agenda to foot the bill with subsidies.
Emma Hardy 💪we support you
Thank God for mum's like this 🙏
What is your specific cause in action? I only ask because as I understand it, DL has no specific obligation in law to provide the kind of protection in changing rooms you’re seeking.
Good ❤
As most judges are leftists, I predict this case will be lost.
Sadly, I agree.
Well done Emma 👏👏👏👏👏🔥
People can put them out of business. Simply boycott the organization and all they're affiliated with. Nothing drives the message like loss of revenue. People can and people should put them out of business. If you have a membership to David Lloyd, cancel it, if you know others that have membership then have them cancel too.
The world needs more women like her, respect Emma
Exactly where are our rights ?! Oh we don’t count do we
Respect!
I identify as translucent do I get my own change room?
Nah, they’ll see through your clever ruse. Nice try.
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Well done this brave woman.
Excellent.
I keep several copies of Miriam Elia's (Dung Beetle Books) excellent, spoof, 'Ladybird' reading primer, entitled 'WE DO LOCKDOWN', to give away to guests who desperately require 'educating'. This is the most concise, and excoriating, analysis of THE JOHNSON YEARS you will see. And it is beautifully produced.