I'm Suing David Lloyd Gyms for Failing to Provide Single Sex Changing Rooms

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • Emma Hardy talks to Peter Whittle about why she is suing David Lloyd Gyms over their policy of allowing people born male to use female changing rooms in which her daughters might also be changing.
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Комментарии • 123

  • @hArtyTruffle
    @hArtyTruffle 6 месяцев назад +96

    I’m looking to join a gym… note to self… do not join David Lloyd gym.

    • @thedarkness111
      @thedarkness111 6 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly it's literally a private business so what's your issue?

    • @voulafisentzidis8830
      @voulafisentzidis8830 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@thedarkness111because private businesses seek profits which this company won't have if they don't provide safe spaces for their female members.

  • @billmartins5545
    @billmartins5545 6 месяцев назад +103

    Great. It's ridiculous that we still need to fight for our rights as females in 2024, but here we are.

  • @1jotun136
    @1jotun136 6 месяцев назад +121

    Excellent news. People have to start standing up and fighting these ridiculous policies.

  • @sikugord03
    @sikugord03 6 месяцев назад +75

    Oh I do hope she wins. On what planet are these people on forcing young women to share a public bathroom with men. It’s wrong.

  • @macc3239
    @macc3239 6 месяцев назад +40

    Amazing that if the trans thing sued they would get all the help but biological women can't

    • @Leon-ty6bw
      @Leon-ty6bw 6 месяцев назад +17

      It’s male privilege.

    • @teresayeates3437
      @teresayeates3437 6 месяцев назад +3

      Freak privledge.

    • @AddMoreQuarters
      @AddMoreQuarters Месяц назад

      You don't need to say "biological women." Transwomen are not women. Everyone knows that. There is only women.
      Even prefixing women with biological enebles the gratification within the agenda pushers.

  • @kai-jm7bb
    @kai-jm7bb 6 месяцев назад +135

    She's great! Wondering whether it is also possible to sue the gyms based on facilitation of sex crimes. They are allowing men to expose themselves, exhibitionism/flashing, and watch women change, voyeurism, by allowing men in women's locker rooms.

  • @hubertinepankhurst1161
    @hubertinepankhurst1161 6 месяцев назад +46

    It would be great if gym users formed a group to sue these gyms instead of one person shouldering the entire battle like brave Emma Hardy.

  • @beeba52
    @beeba52 6 месяцев назад +45

    Good luck Emma.

  • @slochran2
    @slochran2 6 месяцев назад +46

    The gym changed the terms of the agreement with their patrons without notification ergo the contracts with the patrons will be voided. Full refund. Then never go back. Find a sane gym.

  • @jacquelinegreen3775
    @jacquelinegreen3775 6 месяцев назад +59

    Good for you Emma more women should speak about this .😊

    • @SexRealist301
      @SexRealist301 6 месяцев назад

      We have been for years but the cowardly mainstream media don't report on it!

    • @jacquelinegreen3775
      @jacquelinegreen3775 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@SexRealist301 we are being forgotton by mainstream media yes .

  • @macc3239
    @macc3239 6 месяцев назад +51

    Evil people. Speak to Kellie Jay Keen about this. She will go and confront them

    • @jenniferkim8790
      @jenniferkim8790 6 месяцев назад +3

      ❤ KJK ✊🏼

    • @JenP123
      @JenP123 6 месяцев назад +4

      KJK ❤warrior for women ❤️💪🏻

    • @lethalsub
      @lethalsub 5 месяцев назад

      Kellie Kay Keen

  • @offshoretomorrow3346
    @offshoretomorrow3346 6 месяцев назад +101

    Incredible how few stand up and confront - but incredible how effective confrontation can be when they do.

  • @hopehoping
    @hopehoping 6 месяцев назад +22

    Good for you! Women should be able to feel safe in women-only spaces.

  • @prueevans8558
    @prueevans8558 6 месяцев назад +62

    Even being followed by a man into ladies toilets, (seconds after I went in - he was trying to intimidate me as I wouldn't be friends with him) was very scarey! In a local pub, luckily I had my brother and his girlfriend who came out to wait for me when she saw the creep following. Not as bad as changing rooms or poor girls in schools, but bad enough to put me off going out.
    Thank you for your courageous stand

    • @GlasPthalocyanine
      @GlasPthalocyanine 6 месяцев назад +4

      Reasonable people don't hang around in toilets or changing rooms trying to make friends - do they?
      I'm glad of unisex changing rooms, because my husband helps me with dressing and getting in and out of the swimming pool. How often have we had a chat with anyone else who happens to be in there? Never! This is the problem with the way these spaces are changing. Most of us don't have time to think about how criminals are motivated, and the opportunities for crime.

  • @buddyneher9359
    @buddyneher9359 6 месяцев назад +47

    What a great role model of assertive consumer-ship (as opposed to consumerism...). I hope this case makes big ripples.

  • @jupiterrules1267
    @jupiterrules1267 6 месяцев назад +34

    One of the most dangerous things being pushed under this 'banner' is for all of us to accept Minor Attracted Persons. One such individual (on you tube) has said that they prefer this term "because it is less stigmatizing than the word paedophile".

    • @dwayne_dibley
      @dwayne_dibley 6 месяцев назад

      But nobody is pushing acceptance of disordered people like that other than accepting that they exist. Don’t be silly.

    • @beckymcmanus3367
      @beckymcmanus3367 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@dwayne_dibleyIt is happening and it is a dreadful thing for gay men and women who have lived this before. Open your eyes

    • @hamishanderson6738
      @hamishanderson6738 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@dwayne_dibleyNever heard of lsla Bryson (for example) then?

  • @pixie3458
    @pixie3458 6 месяцев назад +33

    They are just hoping to get away with it and know perfectly well what they are doing. No confusion

  • @grahamlloyd7157
    @grahamlloyd7157 6 месяцев назад +48

    Good for you. The more people who stand up against this lunacy of 'identifying as a woman makes you one' the better.
    Call it out, great work!

  • @carolinewalker3106
    @carolinewalker3106 6 месяцев назад +20

    Well done Emma Hardy for bringing this case , and may it be the first of many , there's a very dark movement to erode the boundaries of women and girls .

  • @steveblack-wu7mt
    @steveblack-wu7mt 6 месяцев назад +18

    The amount of money David Lloyd charge . You would think they would want to keep there family reputation

  • @leafmebee
    @leafmebee 6 месяцев назад +10

    I wrote a letter of complaint to a wellbeing centre I attend, they stopped their unisex toilet idea. U can fight this!

  • @syrenadurager
    @syrenadurager 6 месяцев назад +10

    If it takes weeks to disclose a companies policy this is a shady business and should be avoided all together. It shouldn't take more than a day at most. If it is their practice to not provide private areas for both female and Male it should be avoided like the plague .

  • @lesleymooney305
    @lesleymooney305 6 месяцев назад +16

    Good for you Emma 💪 we should all call this very dangerous nonsense out once and for all!

  • @kateb351
    @kateb351 6 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you for standing for women where David Lloyd Gym will refuse to. We've seen how these policies go.

  • @forestfly486
    @forestfly486 6 месяцев назад +8

    Give this lady a medal 🏅❤

  • @petes5041
    @petes5041 6 месяцев назад +5

    What's disgusting, is the fact we got to this point!

  • @JaneHollandAuthor
    @JaneHollandAuthor 6 месяцев назад +18

    Home education is a joy. I miss it so much now all my kids have graduated to university and beyond. And the key takeaway for us in home educating was how much better adjusted and calm and happy our kids were when NOT in a school. I've had fears about them in university, but you have to hope you've done a good enough job of getting them to question everything, and then let them go. (Fingers crossed!)

  • @lindaclifton2460
    @lindaclifton2460 6 месяцев назад +7

    Thank you for doing this hope you win you should but who knows how woke the court is…

  • @lesleymooney305
    @lesleymooney305 6 месяцев назад +15

    Cancel your membership now, if everyone does this they will soon change the rules

  • @mikalina1
    @mikalina1 6 месяцев назад +30

    Best of luck, Emma! XX

  • @karenkennedy6331
    @karenkennedy6331 6 месяцев назад +9

    I just do not understand how other real women even put up with this in the first place. Stop thinking you need to stop being polite and nice and you are not being “ trans phobic, or hateful for standing up for your rights.

  • @shylockwesker5530
    @shylockwesker5530 6 месяцев назад +14

    Thank you Peter for inviting this brave woman.

  • @user-dl9sy7bq6q
    @user-dl9sy7bq6q 6 месяцев назад +8

    I hope that more people stand up for this rubbish, men can't change sex, it doesn't matter what they wear

  • @boozie1918
    @boozie1918 6 месяцев назад +29

    Excellent interview - steady pace allowed the teasing out of important details, very grassroots inspiring.

  • @gisellemagraibhaigh8342
    @gisellemagraibhaigh8342 6 месяцев назад +13

    Fantastically informed and sensible woman ♥️

  • @emilylevy8195
    @emilylevy8195 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for your important work, Emma. I will be following this case and hoping common sense will prevail 🙏 🙏 ❤

  • @Marilyn-ok6ui
    @Marilyn-ok6ui 6 месяцев назад +4

    Exactly the same issue at the women's pond, Hampstead Heath, London.

  • @robcaiger1781
    @robcaiger1781 5 месяцев назад +4

    Well done Emma - I remember your original Twitter post. Will circulate this. Excellent from WRN 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @Wendyj55
    @Wendyj55 6 месяцев назад +15

    I like her style. And I hope her substance blows DL Gyms out of the water

  • @nannyssillysoapco
    @nannyssillysoapco 6 месяцев назад +8

    There's a name for 'people born male'. Why would WRN not use it?

  • @fionacarroll5562
    @fionacarroll5562 5 месяцев назад +1

    A guy I know was really proud that he and his wife had encouraged his daughters's best friend to become a boy. He was proud that he and his wife were being more supportive than the girls parents.

  • @abattle4101
    @abattle4101 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for your work in reclaiming common sense and safety for all.

  • @jennycolville
    @jennycolville 6 месяцев назад +3

    Women often get dressed and undressed in open areas in ‘single sex’ changing rooms. David Lloyd and the like are eradicating this option. Very scary.

  • @victornewman9904
    @victornewman9904 6 месяцев назад +3

    Stonewall dictating policy against ordinary people.

  • @christophercharles3169
    @christophercharles3169 6 месяцев назад +3

    We all have to fight this but mostly women do as they are the ones most impacted.

  • @peterduckett8384
    @peterduckett8384 6 месяцев назад +12

    Your pronouns belong to your body not your emotions!!!! Come on!! Wake up!!!

  • @Rosiedelaroux
    @Rosiedelaroux 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good for you.

  • @wanda64
    @wanda64 6 месяцев назад +3

    Great news!

  • @kayjay9516
    @kayjay9516 6 месяцев назад +21

    Good luck Emma 💜🤍💚

  • @heatherbinning7530
    @heatherbinning7530 6 месяцев назад +10

    Love your pin Emma 💜

  • @nessn4737
    @nessn4737 5 месяцев назад

    Great interview. Emma is inspirational, will watch her case with interest.

  • @amac2573
    @amac2573 6 месяцев назад +3

    Does anyone know why places can not provide individual changing areas?

  • @katiez688
    @katiez688 6 месяцев назад +4

    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @michaelpaige4336
    @michaelpaige4336 5 месяцев назад +2

    Why can’t these places have men’s women’s and trans changing rooms

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637 6 месяцев назад +2

    wait, there are no single sex changing rooms at David Lloyd? I am not a member but they would be losing me as a customer if I was. WTF is going on in the world.

  • @samanthamccarthy9765
    @samanthamccarthy9765 6 месяцев назад +2

    well done . they cant keep forcing these things into our faces . i fear going to the ladies at work and meeting a man who identifies as a woman. its awful . in fact to reword my comment , have gone into the ladies toilets at my old work and a man who had transitioned came in and i was terrified i had to leave and go to another - i knew this person as a man when i first joined the company .

    • @jwhite5396
      @jwhite5396 6 месяцев назад +2

      Women’s restrooms are designated as a single sex restroom. Not a mixed or unisex restroom.

  • @machonugget
    @machonugget 6 месяцев назад +2

    great news

  • @legolads1732
    @legolads1732 5 месяцев назад +2

    The best way to make a point with these woke businesses is to not go there. Probably the safest thing to do as well.

  • @cazzabyrne9772
    @cazzabyrne9772 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hope you win ❤

  • @jotajil
    @jotajil 6 месяцев назад +2

    fantastic woman!

  • @jonhigginson4096
    @jonhigginson4096 6 месяцев назад +3

    maybe the terms need changing, Willy free zone might do it?

  • @jmlorenzo3639
    @jmlorenzo3639 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good

  • @eebeegee8325
    @eebeegee8325 5 месяцев назад

    I hope you win 🏆 🙏

  • @user-ll8mt4so4l
    @user-ll8mt4so4l 6 месяцев назад +3

    Where are the men

  • @LadyStudio1
    @LadyStudio1 5 месяцев назад

    She looks like Trinity from The Matrix.

  • @jakez5894
    @jakez5894 6 месяцев назад

    I'm largely in agreement with the views expressed in this video, but I do think it's a little more complicated.
    Imagine a biological female who has transitioned to "man" and has taken significant amounts of cross-sex hormones. This person will look like an adult man. If this person follows their biological sex, they would use a female changing room - would this be appropriate? Wouldn't it make women uncomfortable, regardless of the biological sex of the person?
    Now, take one further step back. Just looking superficially, how can you tell which people are biological males who are men, and which people are biological females (who present as men)? Look at Buck Angel, for instance - if Buck walked into the female locker room, how could you tell that it was ok (because Buck is female)?

    • @kathyb1011
      @kathyb1011 5 месяцев назад

      They have the option of using the "unisex" section

  • @Frakka475
    @Frakka475 6 месяцев назад

    Are they defining gender presentation, as outward visible phenotype or are they referring to someone who has undergone/completed hormonal and surgical transition? Additionally the communal changing room is quite a dated concept could a solution, particularly when talking about huge commercial ventures, not be changing rooms which incorporate individual cubicles? Although, showering could still prove problematic for many. It seems as if changes are being made when infrastructure to accommodate primary preferences, beyond a sweeping generalisation isn’t provided.

    • @GreenWhitePurple
      @GreenWhitePurple 6 месяцев назад +1

      I don’t think the extent of what someone has done to themselves makes it any different. What would the gym do, require proof of castration? Even then, there would still be a privacy issue and possibly still a safety one.
      Individual changing cubicles don’t guarantee safety or privacy either. Young children run in and out of them, and a man claiming to be a woman could easily expose themselves/look at others through an open door or simply by standing outside the cubicles. What about moving around between entrance, showers, toilets, changing cubicles and exit?
      Also, cubicles are grouped together in an enclosed space. That enclosed space should be single sex for safety. What if only one woman happens to be in that area when a man comes in?
      I’m not saying trans people are all perpetrators. No one is saying all men are perpetrators, but we recognise that women need their own spaces away from men for decency, privacy and to be safe from a small minority who have bad intentions. We can’t identify which men are dangerous, and we can’t get round it by making the women stay in little boxes, so we say men are not allowed in certain spaces designated for women, and vice versa for the equivalent spaces for men. All the same things apply when it comes to men who say they identify as women.

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 6 месяцев назад +3

    Karens around the world - see, this is how its done. Know your facts and use the hierarchy.

  • @razorednight
    @razorednight 6 месяцев назад +2

    Why not just go to a different gym?

    • @GreenWhitePurple
      @GreenWhitePurple 6 месяцев назад +4

      Because the gym is breaking the law and their contract with the gym user. If someone doesn’t provide a service that you’ve paid for, and are acting unlawfully, do you just go and pay someone else?

  • @Celisar1
    @Celisar1 6 месяцев назад +1

    13:45 handwashing and wearing a mask is not damaging to children. And if your hands get sore use creme.
    As much as I applaud her fight against this gender crassness I oppose her views regarding that and I am saying that as a medical specialist.

  • @DorianPaige00
    @DorianPaige00 6 месяцев назад +2

    When transmen on testosterone go back to the ladies room which you will force by law, you'll have issues with that as well. And don't tell me you can always tell!

    • @lks6248
      @lks6248 6 месяцев назад

      There’s no reason for women to ‘have issues’ with that. 9 times out of ten the person wouldn’t pass as being anything other than female.

    • @ApacheMagic
      @ApacheMagic 6 месяцев назад +2

      Nope. That’s fine.

    • @GreenWhitePurple
      @GreenWhitePurple 6 месяцев назад

      Fine with me too. In fact it’s a safety issue for them to use male spaces, especially younger women and girls who can be very vulnerable with an underdeveloped sense of risk. I think they should be with other women. Thank you for raising this important point.

  • @jonahtwhale1779
    @jonahtwhale1779 6 месяцев назад

    Try the Davina Lloyd gym - oh wait - they don't exist!
    Why is it that if an opportunity does not exist, women the do nothing to create it. So no 9one has access to this opportunity.
    But as soon as men create an opportunity, women Have to have at least equal or preferential access to the it!
    Why are so very few women creating opportunities for others?

  • @jonahtwhale1779
    @jonahtwhale1779 6 месяцев назад +1

    The gym does provide single sex changing rooms.
    Women voluntarily exclude themselves from the male changing rooms rooms - single sex changing rooms exist there!

  • @karenavey2183
    @karenavey2183 6 месяцев назад +1

    So she was bothered about dry hands during a pandemic?

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 6 месяцев назад

      A pandemic NOT spread by skin contact

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 6 месяцев назад +4

      And a pandemic that didn't threaten children.

    • @gisellemagraibhaigh8342
      @gisellemagraibhaigh8342 6 месяцев назад +9

      No, she was being critical of those policies and behaviours at institutions eg that's why her daughter's hand became sore and dry from the schools policy of hand sanitiser and excess washing

  • @marilynm5024
    @marilynm5024 6 месяцев назад +6

    I never thought I would have to be armed when going in a public restroom. Now you never know what is going to in the restroom. Its no longer safe

  • @user-jz8gl6pt2k
    @user-jz8gl6pt2k 6 месяцев назад +1

    Dont goto a unisex gym then

    • @macairhead5137
      @macairhead5137 6 месяцев назад +2

      That’s the whole point: you have to KNOW they are unisex first

    • @GreenWhitePurple
      @GreenWhitePurple 6 месяцев назад

      Would like to hear you say the equivalent to a trans person demanding access to a space

  • @ragetobe
    @ragetobe 6 месяцев назад

    She is ridiculously middle-class.

  • @marilynm5024
    @marilynm5024 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is easy to solve. Just have facilities for men, facilities for women, and facilities for trans.

  • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
    @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 6 месяцев назад +18

    Hope you win mate