Gender Identity, Womanhood, & More! w/ Helen Joyce and Eric Kaufmann | Spectrum Street Epistemology
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Peter Boghossian engages author Dr. Helen Joyce and professor Dr. Eric Kaufmann in Spectrum Street Epistemology. The discussion deals with gender ideology. The claims explore questions such as, "Anyone who conforms to the social construct of woman is a woman" and "If a child says they're trans at school a parent should be notified."
The conversation broadened to whether gender ideology could be thought of as transcendental or quasi-religious, and the pair discussed some of the philosophical and religious underpinnings of this movement. At one point, Helen is asked to take the position of a pro-gender-affirming person, and she takes the opportunity to explain the various justifications that individuals use to support that position. Helen and Eric strongly disagree on whether it is possible to be confused about one's gender identity, and they attempt to guess the other's reasoning behind their position.
Dr. Helen Joyce is a journalist, Director of Advocacy for Sex Matters, and author of "Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality." Her writing has appeared in The Daily Mail, The Evening Standard, The Times, And Critic Magazine.
Helen's previous interview on Peter's channel: • Reality vs. Trans Ideo...
"Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality" by Helen Joyce: www.amazon.com/Trans-Sunday-B...
Helen's website: www.thehelenjoyce.com/ pqjx
Follow Helen on X: / hjoycegender
Sex Matters: sex-matters.org/
Dr. Eric Kaufmann is a Professor of Politics at the University of Buckingham. Originally from Vancouver, BC, Canada, he was born in Hong Kong and spent most of the last few decades in the UK. He is principally interested in cultural politics: ethnicity, national identity, left-wing ideology and religion, and has written extensively on these subjects.
Eric's interview on Peter's channel: • Are Multiculturalism a...
Follow Eric on X: / epkaufm
Eric’s website: www.sneps.net/
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0:00 Intro
1:23 Claim about womanhood
3:33 Claim about male/female characteristics
8:30 Claim about trans kids
15:20 Claim about transcending biological sex
19:47 Claim about gender identity
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Watch my previous interviews with these guests:
Helen Joyce: ruclips.net/video/ZG9_lcln7FU/видео.html
Eric Kaufmann: ruclips.net/video/TlzLQO6bRdM/видео.html
I tried to do dining-table epistemology when at Sunday dinner with my family.
Sadly, wasn't popular.
@drpeterboghossian when are you doing street epistemology in NYC on the trans topic? perhaps it may be helpful to start getting input from rational-thinking, non-woke people who actually suffer from gender dysphoria. I nominate myself.
In this debate a mat with 'reject the premise of the question' would have made it way easier to understand how absurd a lot of the gender ideology is.
I really wish Helen would get a RUclips channel.
Helen spoke about burkas being sexist, but how is that much different than women being required to wear bikini tops and men not? Both fall into the same descriptions she gave, reducing lust.
In any room, Helen Joyce is the adult in the room.
@aldovaneyk - No, I wouldn't say that in this case. There were definitely 3 adults in this room. Eric Kaufmann made some excellent points. And Peter did a brilliant job of framing the discussion.
@@wiseonwords I absolutely agree actually. It was more of a comment on her general demeanor, she reminds me of a stern Mom giving her kids the what's what. In pretty much every conversation. They were all fantastic though!
Yes - she makes me feel about twelve!
Agree. I also love the room. Wish I could afford to live there.
It will be interesting to see how the legal case in Australia of Tickle v Giggle turns out. Helen is one of the people that will be called i believe, not to mention Sall Grover, the CEO of Giggle is equally impressive i would say.
Helen is just great!
She cuts through all the language gymnastics, the attempts at mysticism and layer upon layer of glittery, sparkly veil the gender cult has tried to erect.
She shows us the grim reality of what’s going on behind it all! Amazing woman. 👏 👏 👏
She shows that you can deny reality but not the consequences of denying reality. This is so true in relation to safeguarding issues . She is a credit to us all
I really admire her deeply, but in this video she finally managed to not combine various flowery prints so I could fully concentrate on the message without my eyes constantly screaming mayhem at me..
Helen, you looked amazing!
Uni colours are looking great on you. ❤
You should check out Micah Valentine - cuts straight through all the bullshit!
@@rgghjs9270will do, thanks
Helen is the most concise and bright person I have heard speak on these issues. Thanks Peter.
You’re welcome!
Concise isn't a word I would use for her. She can go on and on and on and on. I am a fan, regardless. She is one of the few who listening to her ramblings is always still worth it.
@@biggregg5 are you the concise police sir? Do you alone get to determine when the speaker says enough words to move from concise to say, long winded? What a useless comment. In my opinion she is concise, is that better?
@@albeon81
I'm the idiot, snowflake police, and you just nominated yourself.
@@albeon81
What a useless reply to a comment.
Helen Joyce, Kathleen Stock, Abigail Shrier, Debra Soh, Kellie JK, Miriam Grossman, Helen Pluckrose... There are so many erudite, articulate, passionate, and brave women kicking arse for all of us - brilliant WOMEN (The only kind - objective biological kind).
🙏🏼👌🏼❤️🔥
I am a simple woman - I see Helen - I click ❤
Thanks for watching!
Sono true!
Always!
Ah, but what is a woman? 😅 Kidding...
Great discussion. Helen Joyce is a brilliant thinker - I highly recommend watching her interviews with Peter Boghossian and Jordan Peterson.
Agreed, the JP one is epic
JP talks too much and doesn’t know this topic as well as HJ, I’m afraid. But I would recommend listening to Helen talk with *anyone* about gender/trans stuff because she really is that good, and always says something new in each discussion.
@@slacktoryrecords4193I agree. It’s amazing how Helen Joyce can approach this from so many different angles. She has a phenomenal mind, and a gift for expressing things in an understandable way. I’m so glad she is here in this debate, together with all our other champions of the truth and sanity.
Ms. Joyce is a sharp thinker. "I'm not into clamping down on anyone.. . . ." was the perfect logical retort.
Women with vaginas don't want to be in prison with fake Women with penis. She isn't very smart
@@jackiechilds8047 Huh? She is okay allowing opinions and disagrees with it. How did you draw this connection?
Yes, she is!
Let’s just get to the essence of this debate. Gender identity is a legal term that has no place in reality and is the stepping stone to full trans humanism. Ie human consciousness downloaded into synthetic humans. Read the Self ID laws already in place in many countries. When individuals can change the sex marker on their birth certificate every year, back and forth you know it’s got nothing to do with anything material or real. .
Helen is truly one of our great public intellectuals at the moment. Her intelligence is like a laser beam.
We need more Street Epistemology with smart people like this! Helen Joyce was a master class in logic and rhetoric. She convinced Kauffman every single time (who's also a clear, concise speaker).
P.S. Boghossian, I try to emulate you when I lead discussions in class. You're my model teacher. Neutral responses, probing questions, listens to understand. Thank you for these videos, as always.
That's very kind of you to say, thank you for your support!
the problem is they need to get someone on the complete other side. And then we can see that people on the other side cannot be convinced of their lunacy no matter how much logic you throw at them
She is so fucking compelling. Eric also made some excellent points
Helen's intellect is remarkable. Eric did very well as a relative layman to the subject. Another excellent episode, Peter!
Thank you! They were both terrific!
Thank you!
Helen is a national treasure.
Helen Joyce is a force! That she can argue from an opposing position is genuinely impressive too - shows the depth of her knowledge on the subject and her intelligence
Both participants were excellent but HJ is a 👑
Gender= personality
2sexes
0genders
Infinite personalities
#AdultHumanFemale
Can you not have a feminine or masculine personality?
Simplest way to put it is that the English language always has a single word describing a multi-part idea. “Gender” is simply the one word description of the term “biological sex”. Otherwise a word would exist to describe the category.
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You gotta know the activists who speak languages where all pronouns have a masculine and feminine tense go crazy over that. They’re already confused I can only imagine them trying to find their way through that linguistic fog bank.
@@richardfarris2227 not biological sex, male or female sex.
an effeminate man is still a a man@@Pantifaximile
Helen never disappoints. ❤
She is a strait up G. So incredibly quick, perceptive and thought out.
I love her!!!!!!!!!
This was excellent, I just wish it was longer. Helen is always compelling. Ireland’s gift to this whole debate. Eric’s input was interesting too. More please, Peter.
I'm sorry, I'm on team Stella. WPATH membership fell 60% in the last two years. Stella and Sasha started up Genspect two years ago.
There are more coming!
@@AndyJarmanwhy are you dividing them onto teams?
Wow, what a captivating and intelligent conversation! Loved this episode and I adore Helen Joyce! She explains her stance very thoughtfully and in a way which is easy to comprehend. We need more people like Helen.
Love Helen and Eric is great, too. Love this concept.
Thanks for watching!
This was a great approach to this discussion and really engaging. Some great, nuanced elements of the thinking were brought out. Thanks very much!!
Helen totally rocks.......she nailed it all on the first question....being a woman is OBJECTIVE. ....end of.
I still don't quite understand what the objective characteristics of a woman are. If the argument were that transitioning socially or medically does more harm than good, fine. But to deny that the concept of a woman or man is a social construct strikes me as false.
Doctor, do you think "hen" is a social construct as well or is it a biological category?
Is it an adult female member of the Gallus gallus domesticus species?
Is a woman an adult female member of the Homo sapiens species?
@@nikolaneberemed I think this topic is much more complicated than it is often made out to be. Human brains are more complicated than a hens. If you are interested in my point of view, please read further. I am very much interested in understanding yours.
Humans have a variety of characteristics that undergo sexual differentiation in the womb. Some of these characteristics are mostly related to the brain. Sexual attraction for example is a result of many factors (genetics, pre natal androgen exposure, environment).
The brain is sexually differentiated at a later time than physical characteristics such as the development of primary sex organs.
An adult human female can have same sex attraction, despite having normally developed primary sex organs.
Gender identity can in the same way differ from your outward appearance, as it develops later than physical sex differences. A change in the hormonal environment in the womb can have a massive influence on the psychological expression of sex.
To summarise my point: humans have characteristics that exist on a spectrum of male - female. The specific set of characteristics we use to identify a person with a certain sex are in my opinion arbitrary and socially constructed. We could just as well only use a person's gender identity instead of chromosomes, sex organs, etc.
@@doctordaro2112 what are the “social constructs” that make someone’s gender a woman?
@@Leon-ty6bw the criteria we use to identify an adult human female are real and not a social construct. Chromosomes actually exist, as do primary sex characteristics. My point is that using these characteristics to define someone as a woman is arbitrary.
A chair is made of parts that actually exist, such as legs, a seat, a backseat. But defining the concept of a chair is difficult. Does a chair have to have arms? No. Does it have to have a backseat? No. Is a chair without a backseat a stool? Is a stool a chair? How many legs does a chair have to have?
It is impossible to create a consistent definition without "fuzzy" edges.
All our concepts are constructed and do not exist in "nature". They are useful tools to explain the world around us but we can and should debate specific definitions and evaluate their utility.
Helen’s logic is so clear and on point. It’s refreshing to see someone be able to think clearly and articulate that well.
Helen clearly used wrong-sex pronouns and then told us to F Off when we corrected her. Bad move on Helen's part. Reality Enthusiast put it well on X: "One can't fight the destruction of this anti-human, techno-animist cult while also participating in its rituals and using its lexicon. ... Pick a side ... "
It is genuinely impressive how well Helen argues AGAINST what is her normal position.
This is an indication of someone who has reasoned their way to a position very well.
Yes. This is a really important point.
This is how we *know* TRAs’ ideology is shallow and built on quicksand - they cannot speak cogently about the ‘gender critical’ views they claim to despise.
It tells me they’ve spent not a fraction of a second trying to understand GCs’ view to discover whether there may be some value and truth in them.
I think I’ve watched every single interview/speaking event that Helen Joyce has been in on YT lol
So have I. I never get tired of listening to her. And if it’s not on RUclips, I’ll find her on a podcast, Twitter, wherever she’s speaking, I’m there! I also subscribe to her newsletter.
@@slacktoryrecords4193 she is no nonsense and I appreciate it. Sort of empowered me to not stand for the nonsense anymore! I live in the US and we don’t have anyone like her here fighting this fight. I’ll have to check out her newsletters!
The term gender identity is an intentionally confusing new way of saying personality.
Soo true!
Gender means personality...
But they’re not just stopping there, they’re saying it’s a proxy for sex and that one’s “gender identity” entitles them to expect others to see them as de facto the opposite sex, and to allow them to access spaces reserved for the opposite sex. So it’s gone quite a bit beyond personality. In fact, we don’t know how many trans-identifying males with a “woman gender identity” only arrived at that due to sexual fetishes-these things aren’t being studied.
It's not just 'personality'. GI is an unfalsifiable belief, that an individual 'is not' their sex. As 'transactivism', it also seems to overlap with a broader, and contestable, political ideology, which is 'identity politics'.
Just put Helen Joyce in charge of every damn thing. Love your content, Peter B!
She’s terrific. Thank you!
@@drpeterboghossian You are such a successful facilitator of conversations and so important in this debate. Big thanks from London, England.
Peter's obsession with Islands is hilarious😂.
It's getting a bit old now...
@@GodsCosmicBollock I'm enjoying it more now. Did you see the sly look on his face when he said you're from a different island?
@@ruthhorowitz7625 I've just heard him say it a lot!
As an Irishman, I now identify as an island.
Some say ''No man is an island'', but they are just islandphobes.
First time I've seen Eric - thoroughly enjoyed him. And Helen, as ever, was fantastic. She's got a fifth degree black belt in logic.
Thanks for tackling this subject Peter, you bring intelligence and a certain type of humour that most people don't, making your videos entertaining as well as informative.
Thank you kindly
I'm a conservative Christian, but I really love Helen and Peter, even though we have important differences regarding ultimate reality. Helen especially edifies me (maybe it's partially because of the accent)!
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Two very smart people. What a delight.
I really want more young people to see this: not for the topic so much (though they need that too), but for the intellectual movements of the two participants. THIS is how you would discuss things if you were much smarter, better informed, more regularly exposed to challenge, more mature, more curious, more dispassionate.
This is the best Spectrum Street Epistemology that I've heard. It's so refreshing to hear from people who are able and happy to reason and who also show they understand the metaphysical-ideological thinking of others.
Agreed, this one was flawless, I did however also really enjoy the one with Konstantin and Francis from Triggernometry for similar reasons!
I will listen to it. Thanks! @@user41c
Love listening to Helen's truth bombs, she knows her stuff. Keep up the good work.
I am mother of 4 from Finland. I dont identfy as a woman because I am a woman. I dont know what part of me is womanhood, my personality, how I was raced, family history and so on. I dont know what part of me is womanhood because I dont know anything else. In 2024 dudes know what is womanhood. This is BS. It is xx cromosome. Jesus help me!
I could watch Helen forever
I love Helen Joyce. She's lovely.
She's helping all the rest of us to push back with facts against trans craziness. She's enlightened me so so much!
A fascinating discussion. Logic over emotion. Two extremely intelligent respondents and an extremely intelligent test designer. More please.
You're a busy man Peter and all the better for us all. I always enjoy listening to Helen. I'm hoping you have one with Andrew Doyle soon.
Andrew's funny, if only Shaun Locke was still knocking about they could do carrot in a box as a warm up.
Yes I agree.
@@AndyJarman hahaha, that would be brilliant. I did wonder Sean's views on life and would have loved to see him do this.
Helen is a modern day hero.
"Move!"
Peter you were a game show host in a previous life. 😁
It's possible!
He's of Magyar descent, they are very brooding and distracted, prone to hasty decisions.
what a refreshing break from college kids who can barely scratch the surface of this particular issue. I feel like I've finally listened to people talk about this who have thought about it as deeply as I feel like I have. The whole questioning of a person's identity and what gender is specifically is where we need to start having our conversations about this. No one talks about those things. I loved Helen's comment about it being unfalsifiable. I've never thought about it in light of that word/idea but it's exactly right.
THANK GOD FOR HELEN JOYCE
Excellent session. Both guests are thoughtful, rational people with whom it would be a great pleasure to have in-depth conversations.
As usual, Helen shines in how well she’s thought out her position and how honest and well-explained her responses.
If I hadn't retired from teaching last week, I would copy that texhnique😊. I learn something every time I listen to HJ.
Love Helen. She'll be on the Late Late Show within the year ...... not. The greatest Irish woman that virtually nobody in Ireland knows about.
I agree. Helen is amazing!
That's so sad.
Absolutely loved the positioning on the question of being mistaken on gender identity! I agree with both arguments and that has never happened for me since finding your channel
Great episode Peter - loving all the British content 🇬🇧
Outstanding thought exercises as always. Helen Joyce is undefeated🥂
"Do trans activists use circular logic?" Do bakers use ovens? Do farmers use plows?
Helen Joyce is the smartest person in the room.
Helen Joyce is a genius
The title of Helen's autobiography should be ''Ruthless Logic''.
That “Fuck Off” was perfect
What? I missed that! Timestamp?
6:53 a beautifully placed UK ‘fck off’ - i love Helen.
Helen Joyce is an intellectual giant.
She's pure grift. There is biological basis in trans identities. Check out Micah Valentine. Or Sapolsky. Both biologists.
She's pure grift. There is biological basis in trans identities. Check out Micah Valentine. Or Sapolsky. Both biologists.
Ooooh this is fun! My favorite moment is when they stand on opposite sides and explain what their note means, they are practically proving the same point from two opposite views?! This is so fun!!
Helen Joyce is an absolute boss!!
Peter, can you help facilitate a debate between Helen Joyce & Judith Butler? I would love to see Helen dismantle Judith's philosophy of gender, along with the history of proponents of gender identity ideology & possibly even the post-modernism upon which it's based.
The fact that Helen comes from a STEM (reality based) background and Eric from political science (is it a science? Hm, I think not) becomes glaringly obvious in this very interesting dialogue.
Thank you Peter. 💚
Micah Valentine is a biologist who disagrees with Helen, have you seen their stuff?
@@rgghjs9270 No, I have not; do you mean disagree about the binary and dimorphic nature of sex in humans?
@@rosemaryalles6043 sex isn't binary, intersex people exist:
Intersex people are individuals born with any of several sex characteristics including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that, according to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, "do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies
There are sexually dimorphic regions of the brain too, which do appear to correlate with trans identities.
@@rosemaryalles6043 sex isn't binary, intersex people exist:
Intersex people are individuals born with any of several sex characteristics including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that, according to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, "do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies
There are sexually dimorphic regions of the brain too, which do appear to correlate with trans identities.
@@rosemaryalles6043 sex isn't binary, intersex people exist:
Intersex people are individuals born with any of several sex characteristics including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that, according to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, "do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies
There are sexually dimorphic regions of the brain too, which do appear to correlate with trans identities.
It really says a lot that ppl on one side of this argument refuses to engage in civil discourse and debate. What do we do as a society when this happens? I’m very curious what Peter’s opinion would be on this question.
It’s a complex question that does not lend itself to an easy answer. I recently (a little over a year ago?) gave a talk about this.
@@drpeterboghossian I’ll have to look up the talk. Hopefully it’s on your channel.
Peter is brilliant in how he orchestrates this whole conversation. Great comments too.. very compelling.
Only psychopaths toss a coin by letting it fall to the floor and not catching it on the back of their hand.
Yes, I've always suspected Peter Boghossian was an axe wielding homicidal maniac. It's the eyebrows AND the coin tossing, dead giveaways.
@@AndyJarmanand the obsession with 'islands'
Helen Joyce is a Champion. All power to her.
I REALLY enjoyed that. Two highly intelligent people showing it's possible to discuss something calmly and rationally. We need more of this.
Peter, this is an amazing thing you do. I am often struck by how the people I want to discuss with most cannot cannot conceive of my points when I clearly make them but re-cast them in different terms BEFORE they even think about it. They always address arguments that are subtly but substantially different from the ones I am making. You can watch the same thing happen in real-time with what you do.
In a way I think we are crafting a bit of what we are in an effort to share and sometimes (often) that is very alien to others. It makes them suspect or distrust rather than look out of a different window.
Helen has such a brilliant sharp mind, she never seems to say anything that doesn't make sense.
1 minute 50 seconds in and I'm like "That's why I'm here" Helen is so clear and concise I could listen to her all day.
This was very helpful. I thought my thinking was much more in line with Kaufmann. But I see now that we have much different views. He is super smart and I agree with some of what he does in education. But I certainly side with Helen in this talk. Great discussion
Helen, you are the best.
Hah, every time Kaufmann got on a square and then heard Helen Joyce's reasoning, you could see him really regretting his choice. No one thinks as concisely as Helen Joyce and, just as importantly, no one can articulate a position as well as she can.
This is kryptonite to the Woke. Because its entertaining it will gradually spread into the recesses of the T Queer gang. It's goung to fry their minds.
I like it with intelligent articulate guests like these. Randos on the street not so much.
You have to engage the randos though.
These are a lot of fun, thanks for hosting.
i thought the whole standing on mats was cheesy but as they got into it I thought it was really cool. You really get a lot of insight as to how people think and how we can be wrong about assumptions.
Excellent discussions.
I'd love to see you do a version of this where you take someone who feels very neautral on an issue and see if the people playing the game can convince that person in any direction, juts to see what kinds of arguments people find most persuasive (like emotional v intellectual).
Peter, you are doing such incredible work. I have such great admiration for you, and your drive to facilitate such important conversations. So glad you had Helen in this one - she has a formidable intellect and I love listening to her clarity and precision in her argument.
It is a profound indictment of the ‘pro’ activists - and their thesis - that they refuse to take part in discussions such as this.
Thank you!
I have a headache. Thanks Peter. (For showcasing the absurdity of this decades long mind experiment)
You’re welcome.
Helen Joyce is an absolute legend 😃💫👌💚
I love this way of debating really complex questions. Very enlightening. Thanks
So good! Keep on keeping on Peter.
I cannot get enough of these!
Thanks for keeping doing these Pete - it's a fantastic method. (And Helen is a legend.)
A winning combination of intellect
Right after Helen Joyce declares that the exercise was fun, they ought to have had tea & crumpets, changed clothes, then had a family-style corned beef & cabbage dinner! Aye, lads & lassie!
We love you Helen ❤
Billboard Chris!! He is the fire that lights the candle!! 🔥
Peter this format with intelligent deep thinkers seems to be more productive than the old format using random people on the street. You had to show incredible restraint with some of the answers you got in the old format.
We’re using both public intellectuals and random people on the street.
@@drpeterboghossian thank you. Maybe I’ve just seen more of the videos with public intellectuals lately. Both are informative and thought provoking.
Helen Joyce is so compelling. I ❤ her 360 reasoning and her phenomenal ability to shut down nonsense with just a few words. One of her best mic drop moments was when it was put to her that “trans women” who “pass” maybe should have access to toilets, changing rooms etc and her retort was that the word woman isn’t a prize for effort. 👏🏻 I could listen to her all day. Sorry for the long comment but there just isn’t enough to say about this amazing, clever and most articulate woman. I’d love to see a debate with her and KJK ❤️ versus Fred Wallace & Tatchell or any of these other TRA’s.
Terrific conversation thank-you.
You’re welcome!
What this discussion pointed out to me is that the exercise is as much about how people think that it is what people think. Some people hold very firm opinions but will radically change their views on a single bit of evidence, but others more gradually move the strength of their views based on the overwhelming tide of evidence.
Peter, you should come to Iceland.
Indeed. I suppose he would enjoy the... _island._
I'd love to!
I haven't seen them all, but of the many I have this one was far and above the best. I am better for listening to it.
Agree with Helen Joyce on the gender ideology.
Peter is a bit obsessed with his islands. Still, i'm glad he is enjoying being here on ours.
It used to needle me, soon wears off. I think he thinks Islands are isolated by instead of connected by the sea. The Hungarians never had much of a navy.
I am big fan of this new coin flipping technique. Adds more interest when people just wholly agree.
I absolutely just LOVE HJ , her brilliance shines through with precise language choice!! She eloquently frames what I flail around with trying to convey. The intro of the book "Reviving Ophelia" (M. Pipher) speaks of pre-teen girls climbing trees and ..feeling free.. and how society begins to encourage their own constraint..and I've thought how awful for females... HJ expands our world view as well by disagreeing with even religious constraints on women. And the hijab or the national religion (Hindu) of India..NOT helping to curb raping of females.
EK is a logical and clear communicator as well and I appreciated the two here together. I'll have to listen to more of what EK discusses. Thank you for this!!
Why is it that no one addresses the fact that 20 years ago there were only a handful of trans people and now there are thousands? How many 'kids' really do commit suicide due to trans issues without other potential causes such as depression, anxiety. learning disability, autistic symptoms, etc.? Where are those statistics?
I think it’s very difficult politically to get funding for those types of studies. I don’t know anyone who committed suicide for trans reasons so I’m very skeptical of this idea that everyone will kill themselves if we don’t affirm their chosen gender.
The trans-inclined would argue, I think, that there are more trans now because the bigotry against trans is reduced and people are more able to be their true selves. Another seemingly unfalsifiable claim.
AS more and more children transition, there is, unfortunately, more statistical evidence that transitioning promotes and increases the risk of suicide.
People do...gets brought up a lot and the trans allies etc say there were more they just couldn't come out apparently...
@@tashaax1993xanimalloverx So, if that is the case, then the 'trans' activists are arguing that their best evidence for themselves in the past is that there is no evidence? Obviously not good enough.
Love how Peter gets the island digs in on these two and Helen Pluckrose.
Wow, incredibly smart guests. Loved it.