I have to admire you guys for the level of detail and analysis that is absent on most of the other you tube West Ham channels. Your understanding of football is way above mine and I’ve been a hammer for 50 years. So refreshing keep it up guys
I find it indescribingly odd how a coach like Loppy can study a team, help recruit new players to said team...work with that team for over 6 months... and then utterly fail to understand that he is tactically playing to their weaknesses rather than their strengths. It's like the episode in South Park where the local baseball team tries to lose every game on purpose, and it culminates in playing a team trying to play even worse (Man United in this case). We have fullbacks that can defend but can't cross... don't put them in an ultra high position to cross. Maybe if we want to the insanity bit and continue to long ball it into the pitch, we shoud check on the availability of one 6 foot 6, 60-year old winger from Norway.
I agree, Lopetegui appears to be an absolute imbecile. Gets his starting lineup wrong every single week. Without fail. Let's see what comedy shit he inflicts on us this week when we lose to Everton. Bloke has got to be put out of his misery surely?
Drillo took the Norway national team to FIFA rank 3# with that strategy, because he was absolutely obsessed with stats, and found out that there was a higher likelihood of scoring like that than trying to build up regularly
I honestly don't think we've quite grasped the mess that moyes has left us in. The squad needed a total overhaul when he left. The squad was so unbalanced (it still is) and was leaderless. We have no recognised CF... Moyes had 3 or 4 years to buy one and he opted not to. The players were so demoralised and shot, then when J-Lo walked in through the door and they realised it was more of the same, it must of broken them. Now, we have no gameplan... no I.D. No attacking intent... we can't move the ball at pace. We are playing players that are busted in terms of confidence and motivation We are looking at a relegation battle.
Moyes had a system of extreme low block and several players unsuitable to play that system. Unfortunately some of those same players can't play Lopetegui's system (Whatever that is) either. What does that tell me? That they aren't very good players. Total poisoned chalice. Who was supposed to come in and fix Moyes' mess? He left us with no first team depth, and players who had to be moved. Our captain had broken knees!!! I'm not defending Lopetegui as he is helping to dig his own grave but he isn't the only one digging it - the players are not playing anywhere near good enough. Bowen was wrong choice for captain. Alvarez has lost the plot, Paqueta is clearly too distracted, Kudus is fed up, Fullkrug who? Insane amount of problems and Lopetegui can try and resolve these behind the scenes but footballers are human too and have feelings. This is a much bigger issue than Lopetegui. Almost a perfect storm of a lot of negative events all at once.
@beatonthedonis Cresswell is a non issue as Emerson is decent and therefore Cresswell serves as a suitable back up. Moyes didn't acquire an upgrade on Antonio in what? 4 years at the club.... I respect Moyes for what he did but he sucked at recruitment.
Personally think that Guido and our back 4, is doing great in build up. The problem are others, they are not moving enough, they are rarely free, they are not trying to be involved in build up phase. Dont think that Lopetegui wants to play this long passes from centre back , think our CB are forced to make this passes due to lack of options. At one point we were actually tried to bait them to press, so our AM/wingers however you want to call them Summerville and Paqueta drops deep to get a ball and instead wack it long ball to our wingbacks. Cause it makes tricky for their fullback. Whether he follows them and change the structure of defense or he stays and let us build thru middle. But it was tactical masterclass from Nuno, they never took the bait even when ball was to Guido and Alvarez. He knew he had stronger and faster defence than our attack, so it was never needed for them to break the defensive structure. Overall think that Nuno beat Lopetegui in every tactical aspect possible. Instead for them to take the bait, Lopetegui took the bait and he remained tactically clueless till the end.
I've followed you guys for two seasons now. This being the third season, it has helped me look at the Irons's gameplay differently, as well as other matches. I am awaiting a year-in-advance payment option on Patreon as I travel globally through work, which has financial challenges during a busy year, hence my request. This is another excellent review. Team J-Lo needs to listen to your reviews, but I guess his ego is too big to do so. He repeats the same mistakes game after game that most fans can see, but J-Lo can't.
If we lose against Everton, what's the betting Sullivan wheels out his 'the manager has three games to prove himself' routine again. -A real crowd-pleaser that one.
Like Cal, I was pleased with the formation, and to some extent, the lineup (missing soucek, kudus and playing bowen as a lone attacker being the exception!). Could it be that the JLo actually had it right, but that the players we have are not capable of adapting that quickly to a new formation/tactics? Many of them have been used to one formation, one starting 11 and one way of playing under DM for eons. Any chance that Amorim, doing the same thing, would have had similar issues (excepting the red card...)?
How can two RUclipsrs correctly describe what’s so very wrong, when our highly paid coaching “professionals” can’t see or react to any of this? Lopetegui has been found out, now it’s time for the board to correct their mistake.
@@bubblesblower93 To be clear, Cal and Jack don't proport to be coaches... they are analysts. And frankly, any EPL team worth their salt have a team of analysts pouring through game footage just like they do. And while our club-based analysts may or may not be blowing smoke up Loppy's ass... I can pretty much assure you that other analyst staffs know exactly how easy our vulnerabilites are to exploit, and most coaches put those in their game plans. The tough part of coaching is developing tactics and a structure that take advantage of the talent you have on hand so those vulnerabilities don't stick out like a sore thumb. Do it well, and you can be a Champion's league coach. Do it poorly, and you are a coach battling for relegation. No one said coaching in the EPL was easy... but that's where the "highly paid" part comes in.
@@bubblesblower93 please “read” my comment, I’ve not said anything about them being coaches or coaching our team differently. Purely they have described what many are seeing, if they or others, can see this, why can’t those responsible? Lopetegui has had nearly six months, a preseason, twelve games, and still no identity of play with some of the strangest tactical decisions. International and good quality players are being made to look ordinary or not PL standard. Lopetegui said he has two players for every position, some able to play in multiple roles, there are no excuses why he is not getting more from this expensive squad, this is why I made the final comment, not because I’m following any ‘out’ narrative.
Well, imo whenever Ings gets a chance he does well. I don't understand why he doesn't feature more. He may not be the player he was a few years ago, but I reckon if he was at Nottingham Forest, Espirito Santo would use him.
@@andrewkendall7814 simple we got Moyes version 2.0 at Lopetegui. Different style but same mentality, he is stubborn he plays his system no matter what options he got. Refusing to adapt to players and that's why they are suffering. I mean he is a still a good coach. But clearly he fails to adapt to what we have here. So its time for him to go.
AU, in my opinion, everything about this game, displays, proves and shows what a circus the entire foundation of our club has become. The board lead by Sully's toxic and manipulative control, collectively endorse this farse based on their decisions and love of coin. Hence why we end up with clowns like Lopetegui, his staff and possibly Tim Steident. I have suggested in the last 3 years that Sully has to have a mental condition pertaining to old age. This is a mad house.
See, I on the other hand, was totally unimpressed by the team selection and after literally a minute and a half, knew it would be a battering. Our identity is still (or at least should be) FOUR, TWO THREE, ONE!
Can I make this point. Legs in midfield is a point infact pace is an asset. I notice that its we are to slow in our passing and how bad we are at passing and keeping the ball. No energy and no dynamism don't help either. We look lazy. Fast hands in boxing is a gift but of little use without timing if that makes any sense!!
We need to rebuild a midfield and get a striker, and to fund this, we would need to sell first - who would you sell? Alvarez, Kudos, who both appear to want to move on?
All this chopping and changing of tactics and personnel clearly confuses the players as much as the fanbase - 12 games in, Lopetegui should know what will work with the abilities of the players. Definitely reached the day of reckoning, patience exhausted, and time to acknowledge not the coach to progress the club, but mire us in a relegation battle.
3 obvious problems 1 slow midfield and no managerial cure 2 using wingbacks that are acting as wingers with very little defending 3 the system has been the same .
I have to admire you guys for the level of detail and analysis that is absent on most of the other you tube West Ham channels. Your understanding of football is way above mine and I’ve been a hammer for 50 years. So refreshing keep it up guys
I find it indescribingly odd how a coach like Loppy can study a team, help recruit new players to said team...work with that team for over 6 months... and then utterly fail to understand that he is tactically playing to their weaknesses rather than their strengths. It's like the episode in South Park where the local baseball team tries to lose every game on purpose, and it culminates in playing a team trying to play even worse (Man United in this case). We have fullbacks that can defend but can't cross... don't put them in an ultra high position to cross. Maybe if we want to the insanity bit and continue to long ball it into the pitch, we shoud check on the availability of one 6 foot 6, 60-year old winger from Norway.
I agree, Lopetegui appears to be an absolute imbecile. Gets his starting lineup wrong every single week. Without fail. Let's see what comedy shit he inflicts on us this week when we lose to Everton. Bloke has got to be put out of his misery surely?
As usual guys a simply brilliant synopsis
Drillo took the Norway national team to FIFA rank 3# with that strategy, because he was absolutely obsessed with stats, and found out that there was a higher likelihood of scoring like that than trying to build up regularly
Can you forward this to Sullivan plz guys, it’s a great breakdown of our problems that even he should be able to understand 🤣 👍
I honestly don't think we've quite grasped the mess that moyes has left us in.
The squad needed a total overhaul when he left. The squad was so unbalanced (it still is) and was leaderless. We have no recognised CF... Moyes had 3 or 4 years to buy one and he opted not to.
The players were so demoralised and shot, then when J-Lo walked in through the door and they realised it was more of the same, it must of broken them.
Now, we have no gameplan... no I.D.
No attacking intent... we can't move the ball at pace. We are playing players that are busted in terms of confidence and motivation
We are looking at a relegation battle.
Spot on
Moyes had a system of extreme low block and several players unsuitable to play that system. Unfortunately some of those same players can't play Lopetegui's system (Whatever that is) either. What does that tell me? That they aren't very good players.
Total poisoned chalice. Who was supposed to come in and fix Moyes' mess? He left us with no first team depth, and players who had to be moved. Our captain had broken knees!!!
I'm not defending Lopetegui as he is helping to dig his own grave but he isn't the only one digging it - the players are not playing anywhere near good enough.
Bowen was wrong choice for captain. Alvarez has lost the plot, Paqueta is clearly too distracted, Kudus is fed up, Fullkrug who?
Insane amount of problems and Lopetegui can try and resolve these behind the scenes but footballers are human too and have feelings. This is a much bigger issue than Lopetegui. Almost a perfect storm of a lot of negative events all at once.
Couldn't agree with this more 👏
@@MakeWestHamGreatAgain At what point did I disrespect Moyes? Can you disagree that he left the club with a team with no first team depth?
@beatonthedonis Never said he wasn't. But can you sit there and genuinely tell me the squad he left wasn't an utter state?
@beatonthedonis Cresswell is a non issue as Emerson is decent and therefore Cresswell serves as a suitable back up. Moyes didn't acquire an upgrade on Antonio in what? 4 years at the club.... I respect Moyes for what he did but he sucked at recruitment.
Personally think that Guido and our back 4, is doing great in build up. The problem are others, they are not moving enough, they are rarely free, they are not trying to be involved in build up phase. Dont think that Lopetegui wants to play this long passes from centre back , think our CB are forced to make this passes due to lack of options.
At one point we were actually tried to bait them to press, so our AM/wingers however you want to call them Summerville and Paqueta drops deep to get a ball and instead wack it long ball to our wingbacks. Cause it makes tricky for their fullback. Whether he follows them and change the structure of defense or he stays and let us build thru middle. But it was tactical masterclass from Nuno, they never took the bait even when ball was to Guido and Alvarez. He knew he had stronger and faster defence than our attack, so it was never needed for them to break the defensive structure. Overall think that Nuno beat Lopetegui in every tactical aspect possible.
Instead for them to take the bait, Lopetegui took the bait and he remained tactically clueless till the end.
love the vids , love to listen while studying for GCSE's lol
same, great to listen whilst studying
I've followed you guys for two seasons now. This being the third season, it has helped me look at the Irons's gameplay differently, as well as other matches. I am awaiting a year-in-advance payment option on Patreon as I travel globally through work, which has financial challenges during a busy year, hence my request. This is another excellent review. Team J-Lo needs to listen to your reviews, but I guess his ego is too big to do so. He repeats the same mistakes game after game that most fans can see, but J-Lo can't.
Very interesting enjoyed that
Sort of👍
Don’t have a breakdown Jack - lol, glad you’re still smiling 😊
If we lose against Everton, what's the betting Sullivan wheels out his 'the manager has three games to prove himself' routine again. -A real crowd-pleaser that one.
It's nailed on
Like Cal, I was pleased with the formation, and to some extent, the lineup (missing soucek, kudus and playing bowen as a lone attacker being the exception!). Could it be that the JLo actually had it right, but that the players we have are not capable of adapting that quickly to a new formation/tactics? Many of them have been used to one formation, one starting 11 and one way of playing under DM for eons. Any chance that Amorim, doing the same thing, would have had similar issues (excepting the red card...)?
How can two RUclipsrs correctly describe what’s so very wrong, when our highly paid coaching “professionals” can’t see or react to any of this? Lopetegui has been found out, now it’s time for the board to correct their mistake.
Put these two on the grass and see if they can coach something different. Seeing it is the easy part.
@@bubblesblower93 To be clear, Cal and Jack don't proport to be coaches... they are analysts. And frankly, any EPL team worth their salt have a team of analysts pouring through game footage just like they do. And while our club-based analysts may or may not be blowing smoke up Loppy's ass... I can pretty much assure you that other analyst staffs know exactly how easy our vulnerabilites are to exploit, and most coaches put those in their game plans. The tough part of coaching is developing tactics and a structure that take advantage of the talent you have on hand so those vulnerabilities don't stick out like a sore thumb. Do it well, and you can be a Champion's league coach. Do it poorly, and you are a coach battling for relegation. No one said coaching in the EPL was easy... but that's where the "highly paid" part comes in.
@@bubblesblower93 please “read” my comment, I’ve not said anything about them being coaches or coaching our team differently. Purely they have described what many are seeing, if they or others, can see this, why can’t those responsible?
Lopetegui has had nearly six months, a preseason, twelve games, and still no identity of play with some of the strangest tactical decisions. International and good quality players are being made to look ordinary or not PL standard.
Lopetegui said he has two players for every position, some able to play in multiple roles, there are no excuses why he is not getting more from this expensive squad, this is why I made the final comment, not because I’m following any ‘out’ narrative.
How the hell have we still got Antonio and Ings as our striking options?
Well, imo whenever Ings gets a chance he does well. I don't understand why he doesn't feature more. He may not be the player he was a few years ago, but I reckon if he was at Nottingham Forest, Espirito Santo would use him.
@@andrewkendall7814 simple we got Moyes version 2.0 at Lopetegui. Different style but same mentality, he is stubborn he plays his system no matter what options he got. Refusing to adapt to players and that's why they are suffering. I mean he is a still a good coach. But clearly he fails to adapt to what we have here. So its time for him to go.
AU, in my opinion, everything about this game, displays, proves and shows what a circus the entire foundation of our club has become. The board lead by Sully's toxic and manipulative control, collectively endorse this farse based on their decisions and love of coin. Hence why we end up with clowns like Lopetegui, his staff and possibly Tim Steident.
I have suggested in the last 3 years that Sully has to have a mental condition pertaining to old age. This is a mad house.
I think you guys need to be on the club books as clearly you have a better idea about how to set our players up than our manager!
See, I on the other hand, was totally unimpressed by the team selection and after literally a minute and a half, knew it would be a battering. Our identity is still (or at least should be) FOUR, TWO THREE, ONE!
Can I make this point.
Legs in midfield is a point infact pace is an asset.
I notice that its we are to slow in our passing and how bad we are at passing and keeping the ball.
No energy and no dynamism don't help either.
We look lazy.
Fast hands in boxing is a gift but of little use without timing if that makes any sense!!
We need to rebuild a midfield and get a striker, and to fund this, we would need to sell first - who would you sell? Alvarez, Kudos, who both appear to want to move on?
All this chopping and changing of tactics and personnel clearly confuses the players as much as the fanbase - 12 games in, Lopetegui should know what will work with the abilities of the players. Definitely reached the day of reckoning, patience exhausted, and time to acknowledge not the coach to progress the club, but mire us in a relegation battle.
3 obvious problems 1 slow midfield and no managerial cure 2 using wingbacks that are acting as wingers with very little defending 3 the system has been the same .
Best quote “is this a sensible way to ply football?” No….. no it’s not. This manager is absolutely trash
Moyes Out!
Woe…
He is a fraud
And a wobber and a wapist!
Gee, the truth hurts
More like the West Ham Broken Down.