Candyman (2021) - Movie Review
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex Review the latest Horror Revival film, Candyman. How does the new film on this horror iconic legend fair? Find out!
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Can we all appreciate AJ trying really, really hard to not interrupt? All the power to him.
@@AngryJoeShow ❤️ love the reviews my guy. Most of the reviews are more entertaining than the actual movie
Lol AJS responded
@@AngryJoeShow you should watch and review a scary movie called "The Night House" a very underrated and little talked about movie, it was super interesting and way better than this movie
@ren bao angry joe lol
The original movie was pretty subtle in the racial undertones of the movie.
Subtleness is something missing from a lot of modern media.
It's the race to the intellectual bottom. Movie profitability is directly linked to the size of the audience, so there's financial incentive to remove as much subtlety and nuance as possible
Jordan Peele was involved. Go figure
It wasn't subtle at all lmao wtf
There's nothing wrong with having a message in your movie like the original did however when you focus solely on the message and the story is secondary it's just not going to be good
That's the only way to get viewers in seats nowadays. Just preach vitreous.
Alex got to complete a sentence without being interrupted! That's progress ☺😋
@@AngryJoeShow I love you Joe!
I feel like Joe been wayyyy better on that front, seems like its his personality to take charge but you see sometimes he stops himself from talking cause he respects his lads. 🥳🥳🥳🖖
Cry
What's the name of the channel?
Hollywood is not going to let a good movie get in the way of... "THE MESSAGE"
The 1992 version had "A LOT" of messages hahahahaha people are getting AMNESIA or don't want to remember, pick one lol 😆 😂 🤣
@@brettthomas6327 There is a difference between putting the messages in, using tact with it and then on this one using an excuse to make all cops evil and all white people evil and that its okay to use someone who was wronged to get revenge...This new one is a convoluted mess. I understand that Candyman's story is a tragic one, always should be...but he should not have been made a martyr. It was like they wanted to make him Blade or some crap. Make him the next superhero to kill anyone when you call him. The original showed what he had become and how that revenge twisted him...why take a villain like that and try to turn him good? Peele must be taking notes from Disney...
@@brettthomas6327 No, I didn't forget. Me and my friends actually wrote a top ten scariest movies with a hidden message blog. But this isn't hidden.
AJ: "It was uneven."
*Gives it a 5*
I guess it really was uneven.
Thanks for telling me since he didn't put any rating graphics
@@StanleyOpar so annoying
@@JuanPellat exactly he did it on purpose
Ironically 5 isn't an even number so it still works.
@@JuanPellat yeah ikr! I hate when I subscribe to a channel totally free and they forget do such a minuscule thing, that I completely bitch about it and ruins my entire day.Boo-Hoo 🙃
Why did they change the backstory of Candyman? The premise of him being tortured by slave owners for romancing with a white woman was fine premise. He didn’t just kill white people, he killed anyone that didn’t respect his legend. Why not just build off the original?
Political correctness . Us against them mentality. The problems is when they keep pushing this narrative the problem will never get better.
@@axelstone3131 they don’t want the problems to get better
They acknowledge that it happened they don’t just retcon it
Better to watch the sequel to the original than this reboot. At least the sequel stayed true to its predecessor.
@@DragonHeart613 facts!!! third one was garbage
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious" - A Great man
-Michael Scott
@@uglymusubi507 -Wayne Gretsky
@@zanemagers7465 Matt Damon
"I'm not being superstitious. Just extrastitious" - the venture bros.
Maf af
The worse thing about this movie was the ending. They just added a extra villain, even though Candyman was already actively killing people.
They did this in the original too?
@@AbdefFable1Nah. Candyman was the only villain, unless you want to count Helen at the end but what I mean is the guy (i forgot his name) who kidnapped the artist guy and chopped off his hand ect to make police kill him. It was so unnecessary and they could have got the artist shot by police in a much better way imo.
@@cambodianbreastmilk2980 yea Burke was a throwaway villain for sure
@@AbdefFable1 "SAW "the movie did it way better about being an ANTI-hero movies thou
They have the Sherman candyman in a killing rampage. The protagonist was sacrificed to be candyman. The very end they brought back the original candyman. What the hell was going on in this movie?
The Candyman that we were expecting - "I am, the writing on the wall. The sweet smell of blood. Be my victim."
The Candyman that we got - "I hear you're looking for Candyman bitch. Well you found him."
That's what you get when Clive Barker writes a script instead of some person that has written a couple things.
only og fans know 😭😂😂😂
LMAO omgggg. The only funny comment here 😂😂😂
@@mattjones7226 Clive Barker didn't write the original's script. He wrote the short story that the movie is very loosely based on meaning almost nothing is similar to Barker's story ... Bernard Rose wrote and directed the original. The problem here is the same problem with Angry Joe's review is you don't really know what you're talking about.
@@nizik1979 nah that's dumb, Angry Joe's review is literally just their opinion on it so how do they not know what they're talking about when it's just a matter of opinion?
A "little heavy handed"? As opposed to the original, the subtlety in this one was a jackhammer on the head.
Was way too heavy handed with the messages. Only took like 30mins for me and my buddy to realize that only white people were being targeted, which really killed the suspense during the killing scenes. You immediately knew who was gonna live and who was gonna die just by looking at them lol. Was borderline comedic.
U maf
@@senpai704 I maf
So true lol
@@senpai704 now I maf
@@senpai704 the problem is the OP isn't maf, you want him to be maf when no one is maf.
It stops being a message when it’s literally said by the main character like three times in the movie. They went full race card with it
go woke go broke.
I got completely flooded with RUclips ads to see it. One of the ads specifically had the director say "black perspective, for black people". Well if you say so
is it propaganda ? sounds like it is.
Everything woke goes to shit
We have our top generals saying similar things tho…
I figured people wouldn’t get hooked
Nice one 👍
Badum tsss
See your self out.
**sunglasses** YYYYEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
Double entendre
How did they not realize that Brianna didn't say Candyman 5 times. She did it 4 times. The officer said it the 5th time so Candyman would be aimed towards him instead of her.
It's good to send a message, but it has to be done right, because if the optics of your message are bad, it doesn't matter in the slightest what your intentions are, people won't sympathize.
'weaponize candyman' gave me the biggest giggle in quite awhile.
So they took a awesome horror icon awesome mythical killer and turned him into a political campaign 👎
@@doctorcorps5590 yes sir. Topped with the police are bad don't trust them lol
@@doctorcorps5590 candy man has always been steeped in racial issues and the historic issues of areas of America??? It’s inherently political
@@SevenVT12 don't tell that to them lol. It's too much for their minds.
@@doctorcorps5590 Have you seen the original?
I love the OG candy man, but I have no interest in "kill whitey man"
Facts!
The original is just as problematic but through a different lens
You seem like snowflake.
I watched the OG 30 min before going and seeing the new one. It falls in line with the original and to me was just as good as the original. I loved it and everything it added. The political message stuff wasn’t even heavy until like one scene😂
Not one white critic said it was a movie about "kill whitey man" Lol Angry Joe likes to gas light ppl for clicks that's what Clown a...s youtubers do.
The horror genre gets zero respect from Hollywood, and it pisses me off.
Facts
Because audiences will eat up anything as long as it has jump scares.
Thats not true. Pretty much every horror movie comes from Hollywood, like for example all of the classics come from Hollywood. But of course some of the movies are going to be duds.
u mean WHORRRR genre Xd
Well it doesn't need to as far as they're concerned, Junp scare garbage like the nun is commercially successful and it's as if the bar is so low that if a competent but average horror film like it follows get released people hail it as a modern masterpiece
Jordan Peel only makes one movie. If you see his name anywhere near something, you don't even really have to watch it to have seen it.
It wasn't only him working on this movie. He can't be fully blamed for how poorly it was written.
@@kuttinoaldridge682 He literally refuses to cast a white lead, and all of his movies have some sort of racism or victimize blacks. I think it's clear as day he hates white people
@@highlanderholyfield855 it wouldn’t make sense for him to cast a white lead when majority of his movies are abt black Americans☠️☠️
@@highlanderholyfield855 “hates white people” look up Jordan peeles wife☠️
Jordan "I don't hire white people" Peele should have been a red flag from the beginning
That lovecraft-esque atmosphere of the original will NEVER be replicated.
For real, the original was so creepy and man it was just so memorable
@@bigboi9711 coming from a fan of the original. This movie is up to par with it. The pacing is better imo. I wasn't digging the score quite as much until*spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Spoils.* Helens theme kicked in with her backstory from the brother and the puppet show. I felt like maybe some of the meta of the commentary might of felt tongue and cheek for some, like those razor candies, but I felt it captures the essence of what Candyman is. The stories we tell to cope or give warning for others not to fall victim. When I was told of Candyman as a kid I was always told to stay away from it or him. Had nightmares that this remake actually put onto screen, like they were pulled from my brain. Some of that may just be the simple fact that mirrors alone hold alot of fascination for children and even adults. IMO Candyman=Candyman(2021)
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@@adiandaniels6327 The entire mentos isn't changed at all This is a sequel so you already knew about the original. Did you just skip over the puppet show that tells the original story. This Candyman It's just the boy he abducted in the original one to house his spirit but everybody can house this spirit if he chooses them. Stop it you are definitely just trolling people who haven't seen the movie.
I don't watch movies like this to be lectured so I'm skipping this.
Same here
there is no lecture.. it's fiction
@@thedarkapex5327 there is a lecture. About how whites are bad and blacks are all very cultured and smart and victims.
@@CousinBowling that's not even what it is about lol
a killer having a certain type of victim they target in fiction isn't a "lecture" Freddy went after kids, does that mean the movie is pro-pedo? NO
Jordan Peele made something that was a heavy handed "white people bad" message. wow i'm shocked
"Hey kids do you remember candyman? Well here is racistman!"
White people...smh
Fun fact: Due to the original film's success despite the film crew getting their stuff vandalized and a few crew members getting hurt in a gang riddled area... it became a peaceful area due to tourists wanting to see the film location and the gangs having to move away due to tourists. I love that kind of backstory. Meanwhile this film will be another nail in the coffin of why current day political messaging has no business being in a horror movie.
@@kjadams902 The people whose language you love to speak and who's websites you love to use🤗
@@EsotericOccultist oops found the actual racist lol.
@Jamuel L Sackson Try responding like an adult.
I caught a showing after work. Yikes. The whole production had a “made for TV vibe (beautiful cinematography aside).” The heavy handed, exposition-heavy approach just wasn’t it. The off-screen kills merely added insult to injury. There were some interesting concepts introduced though. Still drivel IMO.
The ending was so bad, they ruined a movie with a lot of potential just to push their narrative.
Yeah I hated the ending, it was strting to get good but that ending was trash
I thought it was decent
Peele typical bullsit
@@tradariusmaddox6827 I like the ending but the way they made cops into super anime villains was Hilarious.
@@whitexiii3308 yeah that was ass. I just hate the lil 5 secs we see Tony Todd was weak
Saw this coming a mile away. A shame really because I was actually somewhat excited about it. Maybe I'll watch it on Netflix.
As someone who saw it 30 min after watching the original. It is just up to par with the OG. Most people who are turned off had the expectation it was gonna turn him into a slasher which he really never wasn’t. It makes sense with the first movie and added more without changing the lore and concept.
@@JoeGrizz1y yeah just got out of it and feel like they did a great job of recontextualizing the original. Plus the use of Helens theme was so nice.
i love joe but it was great. plays off the original very well. slow to start and there was no need to use cgi in place of practical but other than that it really was great.
@@JoeGrizz1y lol
No it really doesn't
See it for yourself before you judge I like joe but I disagree with him a lot when it comes to movies
Really happy to see AJ letting OJ and Alex talk more and not interrupting them as much. Really cool hearing all their opinions
Took him years to let others talk
@@teddyholiday8038 his personality was the draw of the channel for a decade. now hes easing back as the audience grows to appreciate the other people on the show, and now hes known as a more serious reviewer and news source so hes having to learn to change. yall be extra asf w the hate about it
Ew you're one of those...
@@MrDSyR tbf , I can't watch his old movie reviews anymore because its basically Joe shouting while there's 2 people sitting there making a noise every now and then.
I get what you mean though he's starting to be proper now, which is great.
@@keiran5170 see you’re wrong. He’s not being “proper” he’s adjusting to the direction his channel has taken. Being extremely loud, cursing, interrupting, etc was his entire brand for 7-8 years, you seek like a much much beweer fan who got into his content as the shift was happening. He he’s only now acting different because his channels brand is becoming different as he moves from a “fun, loud reviewer” to a news channel that also aims to objectively and competently review other media. His Personality, as obnoxious as it can be looking at it now, built him over a million subscribers while it was just and occasionally OJ for skits. We can appreciate the evolution without shitting on what built the success. You’re just not the audience he aimed for 7 years ago, but maybe you would have been 7 years ago. Just appreciate what he got going on rn
*Can't wait to see what Joe and the guys say about Aliens Fireteam Elite.*
I’ve only played the first bit with a couple friends. Is it no good?
seems generic
@@tzviru gameplay looks generic yes but it's still the Colonial Fucking Marines
@@dr.rosenrosen5849 Just curious what they have to say. It's fun but has minor flaws in its current state.
Probably won’t touch it let’s be real.
As soon as they said Tony Todd was underused and that this was not scary, I immediately took this off my radar…sounds like a waste of time
Seems like a valid criticism to me
Its awful. Just watched it
The movie was a total waste. Just racist and gay agenda type stuff.
Better than the original
You would be correct he is not in it like at all
Get Out got the racial commentary across perfectly, and it was also a freaky movie. Maybe we should of just left it there
Its not like anything racist has happened since then...oh wait...
@@ngpainter Racists, and race baiters both ultimately harm the same people. The race baiters somehow get away with it far more often and are praised for it.
@@ngpainter u on drugs
@@ngpainter What happened that was racist? I'll wait.
No. We need to spread the MESSAGE.
Directors are several years past the due date for originality. Throw everything you're use to out of the window, and focus only on, I don't know...perhaps the horror.
Frankly I don't see that happening. As long as they keep hiring these assholes that are sniffing their own farts, every classic is going to get the social justice treatment. Have you seen Lovecraft County? The twat writers just HAD to literally spell it for the viewers that Lovecraft was racist, zomg! Not even 20 minutes into the first episode. Fucking hell.
Like Bill Burr once said: I am out off white guilt.
Same goes to everything.
BE FUCKIN ORIGINAL.
TAKE FUCKIN RISKS.
Hollywood needs to Burn…oh wait…it already is.
@@oscarchavez8527 so you mad they called out a racist.
I disagree, i think the racial message was very integral to Candyman's backstory, even in the original. getting rid of it you would just have a blander non memorable horror/thriller story
@@mkfjn1 Right. But there are two ways of doing it: One is weaving the message into the story, making it integral to the story. But it doesn't get on the way of what the movie is, in the case of Candyman a horror film. Which is good writing.
And then there is the HEY, HEY RACISM IS BAD. WHITE PEOPLE EVIL. RACISM IS BAD kinda writing. Which is 10 flavors of shitty writing. Which in the case of many modern remakes, reboots, and new IP's is the core concept, and every other element of the product takes a back seat.
Nothing I hate more than racism/Politics and agendas pushed down our throats in movies today.
What happened to entertainment these days? Too worried about what real-world they can try and shove down our throats, Before entertaining us first?
I love the original. And just how dirty and real it felt. But new feels very clean and just not scary at all.
I'm not even going to bother watching this shit, It didn't look good even in the trailers.
chiefmegadeth It depends on how it's being pushed. Truth is truth if you can't handle that bury your head in the sand.
@@jamescolby7125 thank u
It wasn’t scary AT ALL I can confirm
@@jamescolby7125 Now you're trying to make this about more than what I'm trying to say... Stop reading so far into it. and take a chill pill.
Entertainment 1st and message 2nd right?
Or you can Bury your head in sand and go looking for me there. When in fact I was never there 😊
Have a good one 👍
@@senpai704 Read my reply because it applies to you 😊👍
I actually agree with everything yall said .... during my viewing experience, soon as it started pushing the race relations narrative, I was like why but we're here now so let's see what they do with this.... I just wish movie producers could understand that Black people are scared of other shit besides police, gangs, and slavery chains. Like I was petrified of Freddy Kruger and Leather Face. I guess they wanted Tony to be the big pay off but I wanted him to be a main feature
people get scared. doesn't matter color, age, weight, height yada yada. Fear is a human emotion. We all feel it which is why horror movies should be so simple to make. But people making movies get over thinking/ under thinking things and think they got something so they go for it. I just wish movie producers understood people in general because nobody in the human race is being treated to well made cinema anymore lol.
I think another reason people get annoyed about is even if the viewer agrees with the political statement, viewers still don't want to see it in their entertainment.
I remember watching Pacific Rim 1, and the scientist character makes a political statement saying "Monsters came to our world because we're destroying it due to global warming just like their environment". Like, even if I agreed about the global warming issues, I don't want to hear it. If I wanted to study global warming more, I would NOT watch a movie about giant monsters fighting giant robots. Same with politics in horror movies.
Did you see the original movie?
It was explicitly about the same things.
I agree the new movie was a little too obvious. Especially with the dialogue at points.
But it was always about racial injustice
@@Trewq79 horror movies have always had political themes... You clearly aren't a fan of horror lmao....
Yeah I didn’t like this movie. Get out was done much better. Candy man was boring in comparison.
The original frightened the life out of me as a kid. I still won't say his name in the mirror to this day. Looking forward to seeing what this one is like with my lady over the weeknd.
Don’t trust “your lady” partner
I like the idea of multiple urban legends existing, but is there a reason they ALL have to be Candyman? The reason Candyman is Candyman is because of the circumstances in which he died. Couldn't they have made the other ghost unique in their own legend?
OG candyman wanted to achieve immortality through legend. So the merge. Spirit of vengeance fed by more stories of injustice type deal.
I liked the creation/merging of candymen maybe that idea is something for a future story
Remember when movies were about escaping realty for an hour or 2? Now there's no escape. This is why I stick to older movies that were actually good
I see you're still insane Lynch
So sad to hear this movie was average and hamfisted. I was really hoping that this was going to knock it out of the park with the horror and tension
Honestly I lost all interest when I saw Jordan Peele got brought onto the movie especially as a co-writer cuz everything he takes part in pretty much always ends up the same. Heavy-handed race commentary calling white people bad.
Wait a minute, a Jordan Peele movie is heavily racial in messaging and tone?? No waaaaaaaaay
I kinda predicted that when I saw the Jordan Peele association with this film that was gonna happen . That's why I'm just looking at reviews from the pictures of the film and trailer it reminds me of a David Lynch film how well it was filmed . Huge fan of the original candyman all films have the art working for them even those terrible sequels I'd honestly like to know who where the artist in all .
Can't wait the watch candyman!
Candyman 1992!
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14:25 their ratings.
What a king
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I watched the OG Candyman before entering this film. For me it captured everything that was great about the original. Candyman feels scary once again. Scary in the sense that it brought the tension and craziness the original did. I am happy they didn’t make this a cash grab and just go for straight blood and gore. It focused on a the story and left Candyman in the background like the original. The legend is back and to me this film was a solid 9/10. The whole story is about how legends and myths die but another will take it’s place. Everyone tells a story differently because they have personal lenses. They decide how a story is dictated based on how they perceive it. In this one it is about Tony Todd coming back and wanting people to believe in THE CANDYMAN. Not the copycats or false myths that took his place. People forgot about Candyman and instead uses the most recent crazy tragic story. The murder only happen because they believe in it. The people who followed afterwards and became Candyman only became Candyman because people changed the story and believe in someone else. MORAL OF THE STORY IS THEY FEARED THE CANDYMAN BECAUSE OF THE STORIES PEOPLE MADE UP. BUT IF THEY CHANGE THE STORY TO SOMETHING POSITIVE IT WILL BENEFIT MORE THAN HURT. THERE ARE MORE EVILS IN THE WORLD BESIDES AN IRBAN LEGEND PEOPLE MANIFEST WITH THEIR COMMUNITY BELIEFS.The school girls were just to imply that the true legend is beginning to spread inside other communities. Besides like 2 nitpick things, this movie kept me entertained through the whole way. It just up to par with the original for me. I went in with 0 expectation and was blown away at the creativity they brought to story without changing the lore or original. They added more to the lore that I was generally happy with. I understand the message and it follows the message of the original. I’m happy we got Tony Todd for that 3 seconds. Hopefully we get a full Tony Todd sequel.
I’m sorry but a lot people aren’t getting this and it’s a shame because it really is an amazing movie. Candyman was never a slasher. I feel like people go in expecting a Halloween but get a more story driven character movie like the original. Even the OG Candyman was never meant to be an Icon. That’s why the OG sequel and third film failed so badly. This movie understood that.
I wish the other slasher movies would follow the formula this one did. They respected the OG and added more without changing the rules.
Just got back from the cinema (and I saved your review to watch after)! The original is one of my favs of all time. This one had no subtlety, the protag had no agency at all, there were zero scares, and it truly missed the point so hard. Biggest issue, gentrification doesn't displace a community into one place - there was no community left in Cabrini Green, therefore no 'congregation' to create the Candyman. The original legend was birthed through collective psychological fear, trapping the very people who are the most victimised in their situation as it preys on them. This version was totally lost in translation and Candyman had zero presence in the movie. Also too many characters were just caricatures and not realistic at all. This was a boring slasher. A beautiful one, but still ultimately fell flat. 5/10.
Well said, beautiful atmosphere with the music and the camera work but like Joe said I really really wanted to love this movie but couldn’t. The racial undertones are always fine if they are done right but this was not done right and I think most would agree. The final 20 min were like “uhhhh ok then that was quick and kind of dumb”. Whatever happened to subtelty with these subjects? For example, go back and watch the shining. Multiple meanings but they never straight up say “White man bad, they killed natives.” That’s just one small example of how to do it perfectly.
Well at least a 5 is not bad
@@atodamadre3197 It isn't a bad movie by any means, just very average. So much potential but it just didn't work as well as it could have.
" did that ever happen? Did they ever execute a child in history"....... one name Joe. Emmett Till
Anyone with half a brain knew this film would suck. It was pretty obvious based on all the things Jordan Peele said.
Honestly he is a hack writer. He has done interesting work but most of his stuff is overrate.
I knew it would have some social justice underlying message but I was at least hoping for a good horror flick.. hearing that its not even scary which defeats the purpose of a horror film lol.
@@patricksimeri21 It's certainly creepy and eerie, it depends on who you ask whether it's scary or not, but I don't see how it could've been anymore scary than it was, you're the same people that complain about excessive jump scares but then turn around and say this movie sucks because it wasn't scary enough, it's not easy balancing good scares and having a consistent tone without seeming too little or too much, some of you just can't be pleased.
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Thanks for the reply, I am still looking forward to see it. Im a horror junkie and i loved the past two Jordan Peele films so mostly im just bummed that he isnt the director and have nothing to base my expectations on.
And youre right, balancing is extremely difficult, especially for horror flicks. Usually you either get a really scary film with terrible plot, or a great movie that wasnt all that scary. I tend to favor "bad films" that leave me terrified and unable to sleep. from what im hearing so far is its a deep, message sending film first over being a scary movie which leaves me a little bummed is all.
@@patricksimeri21 It wasn't a super great film or anything but I think the social justice messages pissed off a lot of snowflakes to the point they're saying this movie was trash which just isn't the case, I've seen trash movies and this is far from, this movie was alright, dare I say slightly above average, no where near bad or trash.
@@patricksimeri21 Studios have been getting a bit liberal on what they even call "horror" anymore.
You can’t mess with the classics you have to have passion for a project.
Have you seen the movie?
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@@disturbedone8731 oh I'm the clown. You haven't even watched it. There is a tone that these reviewers arent even acknowledging but sure keep being a troll. Iliveunderabridge2
Not to mention it was racist as hell towards white people and the police. but seriously don't indulge the cash aura guy. Seconded lol
@@adiandaniels6327 I knew it would be low key racist ... So original...
Sounds like another get woke go broke film.
Yup, and you know they'll blame white people for it failing, just like they blamed men for Charlies Angels failing. "White people didn't see Candyman because they can't handle black people being properly represented. Racists gave fake bad reviews and nobody who's white saw it." These colored folk are getting out of control.
@@captaincaptain2128 you're looking too far into it
@@captaincaptain2128 My favorite quote is when those social justice twats said that "if you don't want to date a trans woman, you are sexist".
The current generation is a bunch of retards that never got their asses kicked, and didn't learn to think before speaking. I weep for the future.
@@Dp_is_Op nah he's speaking up, having balls to tell it how you see it isn't "looking too far into it"
@@Dp_is_Op no, you're just too stupid to see this is how the world works now.
Whatever happen to just making a good movie out of pure passion. Theres always something that needs to be conveyed loud and clear to the audience about some bs. Give me abugity.
"I don't know in history if that happened"
Emmett Till was one for sure Joe. I'm sure you know that though, can't expect people to pull every piece of info from their memory banks on the spot tho.
Good review, regardless of me having a different opinion than you guys. I appreciate your guys' take on this. Thank you.
It was definitely a little too on the nose. Went and saw it with my uncle and was like "Pretty sure he killed a black woman in the original movie just because." Unless they're setting up a sequel he definitely should have made Brianna his victim since the art was the message at that point, no bearer needed.
Three movies of showing this was enough to let them know as long as people know the story that it will spread, just like the ring or the grudge this one could have been bloodied on a bigger scale because the way the internet is. The movie was still atleast an 8/10 that I plan to see again but it had some cracks in it for sure. (Also the original was a horror romance as the actor who played the kid Jake cleverly put it. While this was more of a suspense thriller)
I haven't seen it yet, but based on the review, the message overwhelms the story. The writers and producers should have made the message subtle instead of writing these films like an essay. 5-10% message 90% plot and story.
Subtle? I don't want any message, subtle or not. Especially a hate-filled one like that...
@@tonyzuco6144 idk what the message is. The majority of films have messages. It’s subtle when you have to dissect the film to find out what it is. A lot of times it may not even be verbal at all when the film is actually good. I still haven’t seen the film, but I’ll see what you’re talking about next week.
I got that from the review too but enjoyed it more than I thought I would, but admittedly being black, and someone who generally agrees with the message, I'm the person the movie is gonna be most appealing too. tell us what you think after you watch it
@@mkfjn1 I’m black too. I saw the film and I think it was really good up until the third act. It could’ve been executed better, and him killing only because of race and innocence kind of contradicts itself because in the first Candyman he murdered Ellen’s black female friend and those black girls. I think it kind of took the horror out of it a tad bit. 8.3 out of 10 for me. Everything leading up to the end was really good.
@@jubilantvision2212 👍🏾
Today’s movie review should’ve been sponsored by Honey 🍯
That would’ve been ironic
I appreciate this joke.
@Chickabumpbump And I'm guessing you're single because you're a buzzkill. :P
@@GuiItyUniverse Gottem
Also, can you explain the joke? Haven't watched the movie and now I don't really plan on doing so.
@@roguelitedenizen139 The original Candyman was covered in bees and honey, hence the name candyman, if the video was sponsored by Honey it would be funny :p
Double Toasted was sponsored by honey for their review
The fact that people still give Jordan peele praise is amusing to me lol "get out" same concept white people bad. "us" white people bad and now candyman.
Wokewood. Because the only way to defeat racism against minorities is by pushing racism against the majorities, duh
It's such a shame. I loved Key & Peele so it sucks that the moment Peele had enough power and influence to make his own films, he decides to just give the same message over and over like he's a victim. I will never forgive him for that comment "I don't see myself casting a white dude as the lead", not because my feelings are hurt, but because a white person could never say the reverse of that without being blacklisted from the industry. This double standard is tiring.
I hovered over it last night, felt disgust that I couldn’t explain, now I know why, hard pass. I’m not evil.
You sound like a little punk...horrors have been happening to blacks for 400 years and a lil movie makes you feel uneasy. Smh
@@kjadams902 who said it made me feel uneasy? Do you read bro? Lol obviously not.
@@kjadams902 At least 2 guys know what the wheel is now thanks to Europeans
AJ, the souls that represent Candyman are a combination of fiction AND nonfiction.
The kid who was pointed out and executed via shown through shadow puppets was a recreation of George Stinney Jr's death, a black teenage boy who was arrested, tried, and convicted in South Carolina in 1944 for the murder of a young white girl, a crime he didn't commit and was sentenced to the electric chair (overturned in 2014).
James Byrd Jr was the guy in Texas who moved to a white neighborhood, before he was taken out by three white supremacists, including them lynching him while they attached a hook to the back of a pickup truck and dragged him, where he was killed halfway through the dragging.
All it took to realize those deaths was one google search, and I don't understand why you guys didn't do that.
Biggie Smalls...
Biggie Smalls...
Biggie Smalls.
I saw in the trailer a scene that looked like a girl summons candyman to get rid of cops. Does this happen in the movie??
Edit: just got through the review. Wow it actually does happen. That's seriously so stupid.
If they didn't use the "Kill the White People" song by Eddie Murphy on SNL for the credits, I consider it a missed opportunity.
Or kill all the white men by NoFX
Wow it's almost like there are alot of racists out there.
well white people weren't the only people killed in the movie lol
remember when we use to watch movies and entertainment to escape reality and everything in it.. Now there's no escape from it
Thats why I just stick to the old ones lol. Besides, tell Michael Madsen they ignored his sister ( Virginia Madsen) in the story.
Yeah 😞
I just saw the movie at the drive in and….wow Jordan Peeles writing went off the walls in the final act of the movie. This movie had potential,
It could have been better. The message of the movie wasn’t subtle at all like the Original Candyman which had a good balance between racism and gothic horror, also some character backstory were either wasted or dropped in this movie like Anthony’s wife father subplot. But the director did a good job of what she was given and the puppet scenes in this movie were well DONE. Jordan Peele maybe loosing his touch in writing
He didn’t write this. He only produced. Writing and directing was handled by other people
@@bluemoondragon619 he did co write
@@bluemoondragon619 He co-write, and considering he's far more established than the other writer and this movie comes off so heavy-handed it's pretty much guaranteed that he had the largest role in writing the movie. I think people are FINALLY starting to realize.....hey, Jordan Peele just MIGHT be a huge racist considering literally everything he writes is about race and always treats white people as villains.
What a misfire. The original story's and movie's whole idea was "What if Urban Legends actually become real if people believe in them?". There was a message of slums being shitty and people living in slums having shitty life but that wasnt the main point of the story. Candyman was basically another version of Bloody Mary, he's closer to Slenderman or SCP-173 or japanese Tall Woman urban legends.
He's supposed to be a modern world werewolf or a vampire, a supernatural serial killer with old abandoned slum buildings instead of dracula castles. Or like a creepy modern folklore god in an urban setting which has its worshippers who are afraid of him. You're SUPPOSED to be creeped out just like you do when you read a good horror copypasta.
When the original Candyman is considered a "psychological thriller..."
I appreciate your review but I think people are forgetting how much of a social commentary the original Candy Man was (some of it in this film felt too forced tho). I personally love social commentary horror films so this was right up my alley. They definitely do fall short with tying together some of the other character storylines but I really enjoyed this movie.
I just think they didn't weave it in as gracefully as the first movie, if you know what I mean
There are two main things that made me not want to see this movie ever again after seeing it.
1. Barely any Tony Todd in it.
2. The killing scenes are absolutely boring. It's a boring horror movie with absolutely no scares for Candyman veterans.
I really despise identity politics. It is quite literally destroying all equality that has been fought for. No longer can people be judged just on the quality of their character, but whatever their skin colour or sexual orientation is.
Instead of a story about a man and woman loving each other *for their character*, despite their skin colour; we get a story about racial violence... So bloody regressive. 🙄
I wish Helen Lyle was more included she did became candyman
Agree completely. As i was walking out of the theatre i tried to think of one scene or moment that i could take away that i really enjoyed and the only one i could think of was that opening shot of the upside down cityscape. That shot was a perfect opening and really captured the uneasiness and ominous tone that i was looking for over the next 90 minutes or so.
I think they continued further every time they place the characters in places most of us would consider to be "out of time" like when Anthony was walking in that circular hallway. It gave a feeling of unease as if you were visiting a family member you thought was scary or unnverving. Old walls, old carpet flooring, old colors. There's other locations too, but they juxtaposed against places where the main character lived. Modern vs Old.
true the upside-down city looks damn great but the movie didnt have the same tone.
I did enjoy the long curved hallway and the hospital tunnel. There were some good set pieces.
@@duckyh9712 Did you mean to respond to me? Lol. Your response makes no sense.
Peele made his Candyman into a movie about a rich black artist exploiting a poor black community's plight to make profits off of woke culture, without actually participating in that community or contributing any of those profits to the community whose plight he is exploiting. Meanwhile, Peele is himself a rich black artist who just made Candyman - a film exploiting the real poor black community of Cabrini Green to earn profits on woke points while hardly filming in Cabrini Green and giving none of the film's profits to that community.
Is he really that tone deaf, or is this some kind of brilliant self-deprecating meta commentary?
Politicalw0keness of everything coming out of Hollywood is why I don't even care about new movies or shows.
I would disagree. Media is the perfect place to discuss and dissect the issues of our society. The greatest works do this well. look at animal farm or lord of the flies. The problem is when it is done without love, care or attention. The problem isn’t wokeness it’s greedy company’s
@@reaperking2121 it's also way over done & non Cathartic & comes off as annoying & unrealistic in every form of media after 2013
@@9ALiTY I agree with that. However my base point still stands. The problem isnt the "Wokeness" of modern story telling and media. Its their failure to properly create a story deling with complex narratives. The messages modern movies like this wish to isuccs are valid. But the problem is the hamfisted way they went about it.
I'm a little exhausted from people complaining that it wasn't "subtle" enough. Jordan Peele helped with the movie, and he flexed his subtle charms puh-lenty in other movies. The point is, it *wasn't meant* to be subtle here. The original movie was subtle because society wouldn't have accepted the movie otherwise, even the director explains that he originally wanted Tony and Helen to kiss but knew how others would react to it.
They did kiss, his mouth was full of bees though so it was hardly romantic 😏
I understand it wasn't meant to be subtle but NONE of the sequels were subtle. The original was subtle because it was setting up the character for the first time and we had never seen him before that.
Same for Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, etc. Once you know about the character the subtlety can still be present but it doesn't have to be when people know what to expect. I watched all the movies (for the first time actually) and enjoyed linking them (and of course the original tops).
I get the complaint because I enjoy subtlety in film but I can make room for a lack of it if the story is good which it was
I like subtlety in horror films because it sets you up for an actual scare. But hey there are plenty of foreign films I can get that from so that's why this films lack didn't personally bother me.
Yeah I figured that this wouldn’t be good. Guys, if you haven’t seen the original film, watch it! I think it’s on Netflix, it’s a great film, with Tony Todd making a scary, disturbing, yet oddly charming killer.
I think they removed it a while ago but you can still watch it on Amazon prime.
see it for yourself
I’ve seen it and i loved it.
The original is a psychological masterpiece, no sequel can hold a flame to it, and I doubt the remake in woke 21 will be any better, if anything I bet it's way worse.
The sequels were at least entertaining. I think 3 was the one I thought was decent, I don't remember the sequels that much.
They took the mythos and turned it into a revenge plot political message film. Don't pay to see it. It will just piss you off if you liked the orginal
It's a sequel
Yeah maybe ill just go watch the original again instead. This new version just looks bad.
Except the ending. The ending was awful.
19:08 Joe do you think a Kid living in Cabrini green in the 70s could afford decent toys
I have no problem with the message being conveyed in the movie. But the movie is literally like 90% message and 10% actual content.
So to answer your question about the spirit of vengeance thing. Before William Burke decided to artificially turn candy man into what is now what seems to be an anti hero. The orginal format of calling candy man's name grants you death regardless of right or wrong. So he wasn't a weapon of vengeance before Anthony bridged the new legend.
So basically a racist crappy horror re-boot. Actually was hoping this would be good, damn. Which does not even make narrative sense, because we saw at the end of the first movie that Helen (a white woman) became a vengeful spirit and she was wronged by Candyman (a black man).
wow you have no concept of the meaning behind the original lmaooo
Try to temper your feeling's on a film you only know someone else's experiences of.
I admit their perspective makes it sound bad, but don't allow someone else's review to create a narrative in your head like the film is just a white hate film, because it isn't lol. It will be seen as heavy handed of course, but racist? Decide that after actually watching it yourself
@@N1ON-17 Objectively, it's racist. Subjectively, it's "heavy handed" on "social issues".
Why can black people just have a Horror movie, But nooooo it has to be about RAcE and InJusTicE....Like CMON why do all major black project have to talk about this
Everything is political nowadays
I'd LOVE to see a movie called "Bloody Mary".
It already exists (released in 2006). What we really need is a movie called 'Biggie Smalls'.
Candyman kills the black sister of the laundromat guy.
If your a big fan of the original candyman but hate the fact that new one had a message seems like u really don't know anything about the original movie
thank you for this comment
This is the one right here
People swear up and down they were fans of the original
But now since we are in a time we’re social messages are hated
Folks want to act like as if that’s not what candy man was built on
😂😂😂😂
Some of these folks are exposing themselves
Thank you people acted like they gave about Candy Man. Honestly i know so many people who dont know him. A real first black killer sigh. Dose any remember Brith of a Nation? All I hear are complaints and not real criticisms I think this movie has people scared, what a great horror movie if you think about it. The thing is there always have been politics and race issues and moral messages in shows and movies. Static Shock, X-Men, and even Star Trek. Heck even a 70s show called All In The Family seriously take a look at it it's in old man stuck in his old ways. Also the movie called Falling Down is just a Karen with a gun. Sorry man I'm just confused with alot of responses for this movie
There's only one candy man. The multiple candy men is silly. Destroyed his legend and the fear around his character.
Liked the original. Virginia Madsen was great and it had a brilliant soundtrack by Philip Glass. Won’t bother with this one.
Joe is getting better with not over talking everyone it’s good to see
I found the first Candyman a lot more graceful with its social commentary than the new one. Subtlety is a lost art form these days and I find that quite sad.
Instead of watching the movie and thinking afterwards like: "That's messed up"
the new movie is like: "You SHOULD FIND THIS MESSED UP"
You know what I mean?
Edit: Also, we NEED Tony Todd to voice act in video games and stuff, his voice is the stuff of legends.
- Candyman 2021:
Metascore: 84/100.
Userscore: 7.2/10.
They come through the mirror, is actually based on a true story where a projects building had crawl spaces in-between the medicine cabinets, and some guys went into their neighbors house shot them and robbed them.
I can already see Critical Drinker complaining about "THE MESSAGE"
Why did I hear that "the message" echo
That's apart of his brand of course
God damn!
How come I hear his voice just by reading the comment lol!
If you hated this movie cause kawkasian cops died, then you didnt watch the movie. WAKE UP KIDS!
Of course the critics are praising this film, they are always for "THE MESSAGE"
Great review, I really enjoy the format you guys have for these reviews. Especially combining non-spoilers and spoilers in one video now
The original Candyman was a social commentary movie
That was done SUBTLY.
@@tokuwriter2872 you're insane or don't know what subtlety is. That movie was hamfisted as fuck.
@@TubiTuesdays not really, they don’t show much flashbacks like in this one. In fact the only thing resembling flashbacks was 1. Candy man’s story at the beginning, 2. The little boy being Castrated, and 3. Helen’s husband remembering her.
These were things that were barely showed off on because it didn’t need to show much to give a good impact. Also, the mural part is the BEST way to Show Candyman’s origin.
You see only paintings accompanied by the sounds, that’s both horrifying and subtle.
But who knows, I am very much Insane.
@@tokuwriter2872 come on man I am not going to break down the entire movie with you on RUclips. But the entire film is loaded with dialog about the treatment of black people in Cabrini Green. When Virginia Madsen isn't yelling Trevor she's saying how easy she has it because she's white. That's not subtle at all. Just he honest about the real reasons you want to shit on the new movie and stop saying illogical things to do it.
@@TubiTuesdays all of that was FAR more subtle than the new film, you ain’t changing my mind.
I stand by it.
I was afraid they were going to screw this up. It's now October and was saving this for the scary season. From what I hear this would be better watched during Black History Month.
The story of Candyman was originally created to point out injustices. Not "white people are bad" but to talk about the injustices done to impoverished people. To tell the story less "heavy-handed" is pointless, it disrespectful. This movie was not made to be scary. It was made to make you think. Most of Jordan Peele's work is created to make you think. If you don't understand that, then I think the message was for you.
Can we please get a Tony Todd as CandyMan straight up horror flick ......🙇
As a black man I'm sick of race being a topic.
First trailer I saw I commented that I hoped it wasn't like "Those awful twilight zone reboots" I was called a Racist of course, But it sounds like this movie is everything I feared. Woke folk cinema
The first time, He listens.
The second time, He comes.
The third time, He arrives.
The fourth time, He waits.
The fifth time, He takes.
He takes your money
@@Saltyaf38 that’s dicosta and Peele
With jordan peele helping out with the film doesnt surprise me that the message is nonstop heavy in your face
They pulled a Snake Eyes with this film by only showing Tony Todd in the very last scene, like they did with showing Snake Eyes in costume only for the final scene of that awful film
So, you're paying to get preached at by Hollywood.