Valves are DEAD 💀 Long Live Super Crush! | Orange Super Crush 100
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Who needs valves when solid-state amps can sound this good?
The Super Crush 100 utilises a JFET preamp design and the 100W Class A/B power amp from an Orange Pedal Baby 100 to generate Rockerverb-like tones at a fraction of the cost and weight.
This really is a no compromise Solid-State amplifier for the gigging guitarist.
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The Super Crush 100 utilises a JFET preamp design and the 100W Class A/B power amp from an Orange Pedal Baby 100 to generate Rockerverb-like tones at a fraction of the cost and weight.
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I love your Channel! I've learned a LOT of the technical stuff of making music thanks to you. I have a #TATA, though. Can you use a Solid state AMP without a Cab plugged at all? Say use only the line out to an interface for recording, not plugging the cab at all. I know that Valve amps are doomed if that is done.
Thanks and Greetings from Costa Rica!!
Way to hyperbole
I want the super crush 1,0000
Except the guy that designed it, only plays valve amps.
For years, I had the previous version, the Crush Pro 100 H. It was not QUITE the solid-state Rockerverb it was advertised to be, but it was still a GREAT HEAD. The next step? I want Orange to make a solid-state Dual Dark. Think about it. A Crush Dark 100. Orange, make this happen.
A 3 channel "Crush Dark 200" (with mid control for the clean channel) would be amazing af!
Yes.
That would be badass!
Definitely! ☯️
wasnt the previous version the cr120?
As Allan Holdsworth famously said, "Tubes, solid state, digital---what's the difference as long as you get the sound you want."
After all, the mixing consoles are solid state anyways lol
@@BloodTributary How can you say that when thousands of guitarists have done just fine with solid state and digital rigs for decades? I saw Holdsworth back when he was still using Hartley Thompson SS amps live and he sounded fantastic both live and on record with them. And there must be a thousand jazz guitarists using SS rigs.
@@BloodTributary Tell that to Metallica who use nothing but digital Axe FX's with Class D Matrix amps for power...
@@BloodTributary sorry but it just sounds like you're parroting ideas of a bygone era. Ideas that even tube clinging, forum dweling boomers are starting to let go of. And I'm quite sure that Alan Holdsworth has more authority on this than anybody here including you.
At the end of the day it's all about music, everything else is just bullshit marketing directed at overly emotional would be bedroom rockstars.
@@moustachio334 this is very besides the point and has no relevance
Can't wait for the super duper crush 1000.
And the Super duper omega crush 9000 after that
1000...that'll be a bass amp. Bring it on, Orange.
Super Crush 200 Alpha 3
Love it! But for real, a 50 would be smart imo
Super Crush 100 Turbo
For a solid-state amp, this thing sounds really good. The Rockerverb still sounds better, but probably not enough to justify the huge price difference.
I mean you're not wrong, the Rockerverb is pretty pricy but it's night and day on how good they sound. The Rockerverb sounds amazing, this sounds OK.
@@adamtwelve agreed
@@adamtwelve I own the OG Crush Pro 120 and the Rockerverb blows that thing out of the water -- but I am surprised at how much better this does sound over the original version. Still not close enough to the RV yet, but for 499 compared to nearly 2 grand, I think it would be worth upgrading from the previous to the newer one. Only negative IMO is the cab sim not sounding usable in live situations (unless maybe running an EQ pedal between the cab sim out & mixer possibly?)
@@chriscarrillo967 yeah the price is the main selling point for sure, it's not a bad sounding amp at all I just think it doesn't sound Orangey enough lol.
I have a 100w mk3 and I'm getting this as a backup.
This should be the official review video for orange. Its way better than their actual official video for the amp. Someone make a petition!
You beat me to it. Colin should be the official speaker/reviewer for Orange.
Official reviews never has any criticism.
That's why they s*ck.
Same for the Boss HM-2.
Check out Dave Simpson's video!
This is commissioned by Orange. Note the paid promotion tags. Making it any more official than that would most certainly mean removing his slight criticisms toward the end, and that would be a bad thing. Video is fine as is.
Seems to me the absolute mandatory tool to use with any solid state amp is a quality EQ pedal. A lot of shortcomings can be corrected with a little eq.
Dude, most amps need EQ. Matchless being the exception.
and front end boost
I’m confused
Don’t amps have EQ knobs to adjust the bass and treble? What does an EQ pedal do differently?
@@Dankyjrthethird so on the amp you have treble, bass, mids, presence and resonance (if you're lucky) but with a 10-band EQ pedal you have ... 10 bands. You can cut problem frequencies, you can boost the right ones with much more precision. It can be the difference between everything sounding kinda shitty and lo fi to studio-quality every time, even live. Most underrated part of most rigs.
@@benjaminmuir1776
oh i see that makes sense, that does sounds useful tbh
My buddy bought this and I can confirm it keeps up with my 50w Tube Amp easily while not having weird tube issues that I'm constantly fighting at my house :D
if you are constantly having weird tube issues, you either need better tubes or another amp, my tube amps have had the factory tubes in them some for over 30 years with no issues and sound killer.
@@robvoyles Okay I was thinking this too. I've been searching for a second amp and every time I read the comments of an amp video there's someone complaining about their 'temperamental tube amps' with all these issues. I've had a Rocker 32 for 3 years without a single issue! Whereas I've had solid states explode on me after only a year.
Holy smokes, you went a little bit Lynyrd Skynyrd in the play through and I love it
That was my thought exactly. Maybe it's the Gold Top's influence? Another great video!
I was thinking Zeppelin.
FETs to me is the best of both worlds: it maintains the gain structure of a tubes but also has that aggressive edge characteristic of solid state circuitry. Finally FET schematics got noticed in the XXI century.
Yep. You’ve done it again. Not that you convinced me that I need one of these, but your explanations were understandable and interesting. 👍🏻
You could also put a compressor pedal in the loop to get another level of tube feel, highly recommend
Am I the only one who (and I'm not knocking it, I LOVE solid state as much as tube) instantly thought 'sounds like a solid state' the moment he started playing? Really does sound great! (which is all any of us should care about anyway)
I honestly think he still has the master too low. Getting those speakers working is a big part of the sound as well. I THINK that the something in the impedance curve from the speakers changes when you actually run them at high volumes.
@@GPaulTheThrashKing Impedance is a function of frequency. Whatever note you play on the guitar will determine how much resistance the power amp sees. The lower the note, the lower the resistance and the harder the amp has to work. Higer frequencies show the amp a higher level of resistance, and its an easier load on the amp. If you look at the specs on most amps, you'll see something like 100 watts into 8 ohms, 200 watts into 4 ohms, 400 watts into 2 ohms, or something similar. If you look at the 400 watt rating, you only get it at the lowest frequency the amp is rated to handle. As the frequency moves up, watts go down.
There's an exception to all this that you also need to know. Tube amps don't like wide swings in impedance. On almost all tube power amps, and a few solid state amps, an output transformer is placed after the power tubes or power transistors, and before the speakers. An output transformer acts like a buffer. It makes it so the amp sees a consistent load at all frequencies.
When you read this, keep in mind that I'm over simplifying things a great deal. I'm just trying to present the overall picture as to how this concept works. I don't want to overwhelm anyone with too much information.
@@GPaulTheThrashKingcan confirm this is true
Dude you just absolutely killed this whole review... content, playing... I learned, I enjoyed... well done indeed
Brilliant. This is the best & most professional amp demo I've ever seen. If I was an amp manufacturer I'd be sending you amps hoping you'd do the same for them.
Would love to see a dark crush 100. Same clean channel and power amp but with the micro dark preamp for the dirty channel.
Colin, you continue to blow my mind with how much info and explanation you push into a video - let alone video to video!
i was a intrigued by the cab sim sound. it very obviously doesnt sound like a guitar cabinet speaker. so i saved the audio of this video and opened it my DAW, comparing 7:22 (recording) to 12:28 (cabinet simulation no eq).
i dialed the tone on the dry cabsim sound section with an analog style EQ software and was impressed at how convincing it sounds. the cabsim is INDEED a full range speaker emulation, and sounds great when shaped.
compared to the recording at 7:22 in this video, the cabsim sounds very close-mic. collin's recording has ambient sound of room and distance, which wouldnt be ideal for a cabsim that's meant to be sculpted with eq and maybe reverb.
in conclusion, i do prefer the way they handled their cabinet simulation, its very direct and versatile, and is what i will be using when i get my hands on this amp. for people who demand a more faithful guitar cabinet simulation model, buying a loadbox and giving it your impulse response of choice is FAR better than if this amp's built in cabsim had one generic guitar cabinet model. as guitarists, we want to choose our own sound.
Old video but definitely a good watch I like the honesty when you speak about certain portions of the hardware. I really like that you drill down and talk about what will work and what doesn't.
I heard everything I needed,when you said Class A/B power section. That pretty much has me sold with the J-fet.
Hi Colin! Loving the demo, pulled the trigger on one of these off the back of this video! Has been delivered to my flat but I'm currently self isolating elsewhere. Can't wait to get back and get this beast powered up with my pedalboard in the front!
Keep up the awesome content 🤘
I have the Crush Pro 120, the amp that this amp replaced. I’ll go as far as to say that these amps are absolutely on par with solid state amps that are much more expensive like the Hughes and Kettner Black Spirit 200. Killer amp that can get you some killer tones!
i have the cr120 as well. i like it better. to me sounds thicker and better and more massive and fuzzlike, while the super crush 100 sounds more trebley and fizzy to me.
Orange is honestly, for me, is leaps and bounds ahead in terms of having solid state amps that, sound just as good as valve, I just wish they’d come out with a solid state amp, with an emphasis on cleans, because oh boy can this amp even their CR120 do amazing clean tones, I understand orange isn’t the go to “clean amp” but they can definitely do it well and in their style
On the other hand with the XLR output, sounds like if you crank everything, you could get a 100W HM-2!
Great vid tho, dug the tones on this unit!
Yeah, I was kind of thinking something along those lines..! :)
Funny how they've discovered that JFETs sound more 'valve-like' than MOSFETS right in the middle of a worldwide MOSFET shortage...
Tbf they do though
🤔
Can we please stop discriminating against solid state amps? The voicing is what really matters.
I agree voicing is the key element sound wise. Solid state topology is capable of great sounds and shouldn’t be universally maligned. Tube lovers are gonna fuss about feel though. There is something to be said about the biofeedback loop with tubes, which can effect performance for some players.
No
As a fan if the Marshall vs8100 valvestate....ive been driving this bus for a minute guys
It's hard to appreciate them as their own thing when they're not trying to be their own thing. They're still trying to sound like tube amps, and I think they should just try to do their own thing, utilize transistors' strong points. They get shat on when people start to say "Look! This sounds just like the real thing!" And we're just sittin here like "Aaaah, no." So let's appreciate that they're different, and MAKE them different. I love solid state amps, especially older ones from the 70s (look up Sunn's stuff and Acoustic). They have a very unique sound that tubes will never be able to do
@@mickavoidant4780 Idk what you mean there. How was I anthropomorphizing?
Would love to see the difference between this super crush 100 and the crush pro 120
Specially on metal
"Church of the cosmic skull" style intro riff. Most excellent.
The EVH Iconic still has no videos... I am only saying that it started presales 2 months ago.. this leaked a couple weeks back and here we are today. I think I am going with this as a backup.. I am really liking what I am hearing here and with Ty Tabors video.
The Wampler Catapulp, out of production but still available at very reasonable prices, is also a fantastic way to get the Orange Rockerverb sound on a budget.
Even after adding cutting the highs the high gain XLR output sound could use a lot more work on the EQ, I would definitely want to use a different IR with that.
If it's anything like the Bassbreaker circuit, it uses basic analog filtering to simulate speaker roll-off - a poor choice in todays world of IR's etc.
Being that this is a 100W amp, it's safe to assume that Orange intended this to be giggable, so I'm curious to know just how well this amp cuts through a live mix. It's one thing to be able to get really loud, but it's another thing to be able to get really loud and maintain all the dynamics of the amps without it getting muddy. Another thing is, amps can sound punchy and thick when played by themselves, and then in a live mix the loss of dynamics make them sound thin and lost. I'm curious to hear some live musicians use this.
I owned and gigged the CR120H. I could cut through just fine. I never turned the master past 7 and my drummer was LOUD.
I have the 120w head and my other guitar player uses a 100w black star. We have to mic him and not me. I think I'm on maybe 3 when we play. It's loud and deep.
@@daveg4236 Are your heads tube or solid state? I know that there are plenty of 100W and even 50W tube heads that are fine live on their own, but sometimes solid state amps, even hi wattage one's can get lost... which was why I was curious about this particular solid state amp.
@@MartinAdrianoFlores Cool thanks,
I also gig the CR120. I don't think I've ever turned it all the way up at any point lol, it's plenty loud and that Orange mid range always cuts
I'd say the opposite of what you said at the end is true as well- it honestly sounds...not that great at low volume. I don't really use it at home, I just use amp sims. Turned up to band volume (and we mic up usually so still not crazy loud) is where it shines
I own a Crush 2X12 Combo. Just a beast. Built like a tank. Also I've got the Pedal Baby 100. Just straight forward - not bells and whistles. - Orange always up their game. - Great presentation in the Vid. Thanks
Cheap Amp Head, No Tubes, ALL THE GAIN
ALLTHEGAIIIIIN
That eq at 12:27 makes a huge difference. I plan on getting the combo for using live, and running the DI for our in ears. Adding this low pass would be perfect for that.
When it comes to tone i don't care what I'm playing through so long as it sounds good. But when it comes to the feel between myself and the amp tubes I've found interact with my playing really pleasantly. If orange can crack that sort of interaction between the player and the amp that would sell me on it.
Extra note: korg has been putting their nutube tech in some vox amps and i think of that tech can be expanded on it would be the future of amps or at least a component of it
Everything went well until the speaker simulation which sucked boabies even with eq. It is a shame tbh. Love the crushes. They should just leave it out if they can't make it sound convincing, that goes for all amp builders who put a shoddy analogue speaker sim out on their amps. None of them sound any good so why bother. Or put a cheap ir loader in the back. I mean some of the pedals that are really cheap load IR's so it might even be cheaper to build that in than develop your own DI/Cab emulator. That said, it would not put me off owning one. I have always wondered why the DOOM community haven't adopted the Crush series as they sound immense turned up through a 4x12 and take pedals really well, I can vouch for that.
Like I almost don't want to blame Orange because I've never heard one of those built in sound good. But at that point, it's either improve the technology or don't put it in the amp.
cuz the non-“Super” CR120H isn’t as loud as you might think, a good 100W tube bastard will outblast it. got some hopes up for this one given that i heard it’s got the Pedal Baby’s power amp?
@@emmarossignol4445 Correct, I don't blame them either. I don't think it is possible to make a convincing analogue speaker emuation.If it was we would have had it by now. And yes, I agree it should be just left out for that reason.
Agreed. I currently go from OR15 -> Torpedo Captor -> Mooer Radar and it sounds great. I am really considering getting a Super Crush, but the built in cab sim kills it. Why not let me use my own cab sim? At least make a pre-eq / pre-cab sim DI, like the Little Bass Thing.
I've seen a bunch of doom bands gig with the CR120. Punk bands seem to like em too.
Picked up a SC100 after watching your vid. Very happy with it! It's also become my favorite home recording amp, but I don't use the cab-sim DI out, I use the effect send and add an IR to it. By doing that I get better cab sim from the IR, and the ability to keep the master volume / room sound as quiet as I want while recording.
I've never thought of doing that. Sounds a great idea. Are there any videos showing how to do this?
@@LordBransty It's pretty straightforward as far as sending the effects loop "send" signal into your interface (1/4" line-in or via DI box to an XLR Mic Input)
If you search youtube for "Free VST Impulse response loader" there are a lot of guide videos that will show you how to add the impulse response to your recorded audio track made from the Crush's "send"
@@swmorgan515 Thank you very much for that!
very informative, the high frequency with high gain was very nice to learn. thanks.
I had a 100w KMD with 4x10 cab(got it cheap, from Doc Brown), in the late early 90s and that thing was such a monster, it had to get its own place, because I couldn't keep it at home.
Now, my goto is a modded silver stripe Rage 158, with a Celestion Ten 30 and a cab jack. Mic'd up sounds like $500 of glass and pushing a 1x12 cab gets loud enough to get the cops called from the next street over.
Loving the channel - Cheers from a fellow Scottish content creator! Not so active now, due to travel restrictions but still do guitar stuff when time allows. Solid State amps have come along way since the Seventy's and Eighty's when I used to rock an old Sound City 100w head then a Roost 100W combo with Twin Celestion 12" 100w ear bleeders (wish I still had that) The Boss Katana amps are great, I find they do have a lot of the valve type impulse response and dynamics that was always missing before. The 2 x12" 100w is great for gigging, loud and lighter than similar valve amps. I love that you can run them at 0.5w and still get great tone, unlike most valve amps ;0)
I haven’t even finished this video and just want to say how superbly done it is and well explained. Bravo! The pedal baby bit was funny too!😂
Huh I was on to something... I won (! I never win anything) the Orange Baby last year and I've been having a lot of fun putting pre-amps (pedals/modelers) in front of it and I really love what I get out of it. In my modest room I only have room (acoustically and geometrically) for a 1x12 speaker, but so far I've been VERY impressed what I value I can get out of it!!
That crazy segway at three minutes and 48 seconds is brilliant! I had to watch it a couple times ..... thanks for keeping the fun in it!
Finally found the amp that I trust to be good enough to replace my Marshall MG100 HDFX.
I like the reliability of a solid state as in it's less likely to fail on the road so that's why I go with solids.
Been looking for the perfect solid state head and this is it. Thanks for the video this helped me decide between this and a Boss Katana and I'm going with Orange.
Great demo! I have been thinking about one of these for a while and your video sold me!
There is room for tubes and solid state. Always has been. Solid state amps have really come a long way. Peavey Bandit, Roland JC120, Roland Blues Cube, Quilter, and the Orange Crush and Super Crush series to name a few. There are some really great SS amps out there. I play my Katanas quite a bit, but I still love my tube amps.
I was really close to buying a CR120C but I found a deal on a Laney GH30R-112 that I couldn't pass up. I still want one of these Orange SS amps though. They are pretty nice to be honest. The XLR DI out is a welcome addition.
The dual P90 Strat sounded epic. Gotta consider this amp.
Taynor TS-15/25B, Marshall Lead 12, etc ... oh, recently Milkman. I love how solid state can be good and how folks are finally getting it.
I wonder if we'll see cork-sniffing disagreements between A/B power -vs- D class power in the future ;)
Valves... are NOT dead... But I love that amp!
Have to admit, though, while Orange are not MY thing, even their little Crush 12 SOUNDS like an Orange. I love the brand and WISH my backline looked half as funky! I was so impressed I bought one to add colour (see what I did there) to my little home studio - and eventually I might have to get a more manly Orange. Who knows, this might be it.
GREAT REVIEW - Better than Orange's own!
All i can say is he is not struggling to hold the amp up. Thats the best part. Lol
Can you record from the XLR output without a speaker cab attached, or does it need that speaker load to prevent damage?
Solid state amps usually do not require a speaker load
This amp sounds great! I wil argue solid state heads have been great from the start depending on what you get, I have amazing 80s Peavey stuff that sound just wonderful. $99 digital modeling/solid state amps for beginners give the "non-tube" technology a bad name it seems, just don't forget they can be reaaaaaaally really good too!
Agreed. I'm convinced that a lot of the negatives that players associate with "solid state" are actually a result of digital circuitry, and also left-over reputation from many of the very BAD, budget versions of analog solid state amps in the 70's to early 90's. And even in the 80's, countless legendary recordings across several genres with the Roland JC analog SS amps.
A good sounding analog amp is more about the circuitry than whether there's a glowing glass tube in that circuitry.
It's a life saver for me I have a bad back and i can't lift my Mesa Boogie Mark 2 B combo anymore this is perfect 40 pounds I can handle that I just ordered my Orange Crush Super 100 I will get it in November thanks for the great video you Rock😎🎸🤘🎵🎶
I've been tooting the solid state horn for years. I have tube amps but a good solid state amp has an advantage that tube amps do not. They are club friendly. Yeah not sure how many clubs are open these days but I know from past experience that the sound guy at certain venues liked me better when I had my solid state than if I had my tube. Solid state you can turn down and still get a really great sound. This is dependent on it being a GOOD amp though. You're not getting that from your practice amp.
Great playing. Great sounding amp. I do hope people start buying solid state amps now. I particularly hope people decide to get rid of their vintage blackface and silverface Fenders
I’m selling my Fender silverface for the super crush combo.
@@pattillo21 YES
I actually have an Orange Crush 35RT that i fucking love. I’m ready to upgrade and was thinking about getting a vintage Fender Champ, but instead I think i’m gonna go with the Super Crush.
I realize this is 3 yrs past, but could you tell me what DAW you work with? What was the DAW you showed in the video?
Thank you in advance.
Greatly surprised here. Sounds way better than I expected. You ain't tearing me away from me big old Marshall, though. OTOH, it'd be a good one to have as a backup or an alternative for tracking.
Only thing I wish you had done was compare the open vs closed back cab options on the IR.
Fantastic video as always!
"Valves are DEAD". I remember the first time I heard that. It was in the early 70's. By the by, electric guitars are also obsolete (according to music store pundits in the 80's). Synthesizers would apparently make all other instruments unnecessary as of the mid 80's. Or we could go farther back and reference the Decca Records executive who said to Brian Epstein, in reference to The Beatles, words to the effect that guitar groups were on the way out. Taking rather a long time to disappear, aren't they?
Prior to the 70s valves were in EVERYTHING: televisions, radios, jukeboxes...
They had valve testing stations in shops for the public to check their TV tubes.
All of that is gone now.
The only places valves still exist in a commercial environment are in ultra niche high end audio applications.
Deny it all you want, but the fact remains that valves are on the brink of extinction and electric guitarists are the only people putting up the conservation effort.
@@ScienceofLoud gonna buy this thing for a rehearsal music, and test its durability.
This maybe a stupid question, but why would I buy this rather than a Katana Head or Artist? What does it do that they don't, especially if I don't play metal and want huge amounts of distortion?
Pretty thorough review. Best I've seen on this so far.
I've heard a lot of people comparing this amp to the Rockerverb, even Orange themselves, and I can definitely hear it. Although to my ears, I hear a lot more of the OR100 in it. Regardless, I can't wait to get mine! I pre-ordered it back in September 2021, and I'm still waiting as of January 2022
Hey Colin, I'm thinking about getting this head to power 2 16ohm marshall 4x12's and i was wondering how does the clean sound hold up when you crank it up to earplugs levels? does it distort/clip? & how loud does it go? will it keep up with a mesa dual rectifier in a club/venue? I'm currently using a joyo zombie 2 thru a 4x12 and it gets drowned out. If i turn up it clips and sounds awful. It is only like 20/25 watts though, So I'm hoping since this can power 2 16ohm 4 x 12's it'll give me the power i need to not get drowned out and maintain killer tone.
I have the Orange Crush Pro 120. Do you know how it differs from your amp? I'm wondering if I should sell it and get the Super Crush, but I'd like to what changes Orange made.
When my favorite music store store announced the release of this, needless to say I was excited.
I had to get rid of my combo a bit ago cause too much breaking down. I now have a victory thats 6 months old n needs to go to the shop. Im hoping its just a power tube (the only part not under warrant) im stuck with the catalyst for a bit. I may get one of those for my back up
I'd really like it if orange put the crush pre amp in a pedal form.
Try the terror preamp pedal. Still uses a tube though, power amp inside too. The getaway driver may get you closest to this as just a preamp in pedal format. I use some lovely JHS MOSFET preamp pedals too (supro and silvertone based) so they may have one that suits your needs. They sound very accurate and believable. FYI- I use the JHS super bolt in front of my Supro Black Magick because there is a stupid amount of volume required to get "that" supro sound which is more easily achieved at lower volumes with the JHS.
Yea like the sansamp DI boxes - that'd sell!
First time on your channel. Was not expecting Pedal Baby…INSTANTLY SUBSCRIBED 😀
Oh man, so I just bought a Pedal Baby 100 used for $300 a few weeks ago and def watched your vid on it as part of my research. Because I've never been into amp gain and have been obsessed with pedals it really is the perfect solution. That being said, when this whole 2 channel amp is $500 USD new VS $400 USD for the pedal baby, the value of the super crush 100 blows the pedal baby away! Damn... Bad timing.
Odd that I would need two single button footswitches for channel and reverb. Guess they got to make a few extra bucks somehow
TATA question - What is that clipping you mentioned at the 5 min mark. What causes it? Can you show us what is sounds like when the clipping is bad compared to a good sound?
Take any cheap hifi amp that advertises ludicrous wattages and push the volume past about halfway up. The sound that you thought was your speakers breaking, is the clipping he's talking about. Of course if the speakers are also cheap it's likely you'll also break your speakers, but after that it's much easier to justify getting some better hifi gear. The reasons for it would make a good TATA.
What's a TATA question ? 😋
@@dingalarm Too Afraid To Ask. It's a part of his show.
@@ahampel22 Thanks ! 👍🙂
Thanks for the tips on how to get an ideal tone from a solid-state amp Colin.
Friendly reminder: It doesn't matter if it comes from horses, steam, coal, valves or transistors; 100W are always 100W. Most if not all amps are rated for low harmonic distortion, which means that you get x watts of clean volume. Pushing a valve power amp into distortion will not increase the amplitude but it will nonetheless increase the overall energy of the signal up to a factor of two, which actually does make the amp sound louder. Pair that with a high efficiency speaker and no wonder your little solid state amp of equivalent wattage can't compete!
Tubes arent dead and the SC100 certainly isnt a breakthrough SS amp by any means. The pricing is great on these though so I can see many folks grabbing them. I think the mini SS amps that Friedman,Bogner are putting out have a high quality more realistic tubish tone going on myself and are a strong 30 watt Class D power.
Possibly, but Class D amps can be chancy and impossible to repair.
Since the power section is clean you can take a signal without cab-sim straight from the effects loop.
Just got this amp and it sound excellent! Compared it to my ENGL fireball 100, and both tones are fine for recording an album.
oh forgot to mention i'm a metal guy, and all my guitars are equipped with emg's.... the emg81 in the bridge is used 90% of the time in my tone
Thank you.There is always some shredder metaling it up.I like metal dont get me wrong,but im a classic rock guy.Again thank you for play something for us classic rock guys.
Not going to lie ( as a solid state user) let me add I love tube amps but for me as an "Affordable pub gigging dude " Solid state is where its at for me as you can set these things on fire and they'll still work I might have to buy this... Too bad orange couldn't do a larger version of the ( Micro Terror) Idea because I thought that marriage of tube/solid state hybrid was amazing .
Congrats on being absolutely and completely informative with a thorough explanation of this great product while at the same time being completely confusing to a total newbie like myself LOL....All I know is it "has a great beat and you can dance to it" (for those ancient oldies like myself you get the Bandstand reference :) ). Keep up the good work my friend!
Great video…not an orange owner..yet! You spoke of how to push the preamp and keep power amp low. Could you explain , or if you have a video how the inverse happens on a tube amp? Do you keep the preamp low and turn master all the way up? Thanks
The amp is happening! I love the clean channel the best but that classic 70s rock sound with a Les Paul is nothing to sneeze at! It's. a great sound too!
I think those DIs very high frequency is nature of the beast. Good thing eqs can fix it quite nicely
Would I use it in a gig that plays soul music like my band? Fo' sho'!
That super crush sounds awesome I'll bet very few people would guess it's solid state.
One of the best local guitarists in my area came and saw my show and was shocked when he found out it was Solid State after the show
Paraphrased: "We're never going to be in that range with a SS power amp, even in a gigging situation." Hold my pint.
So I'm guessing this amp is somewhere in the price range of the Rocker 15 Terror. If you could only have one, which would you choose? I have the Rocker 15 Terror and although it would be nice to have the reverb, clean channel EQ, and XLR out, I can't imagine this amp sounds better than the R15.
I wish the xlr out had an IR loader. A depth or resonance control would and maybe something to emulate power tube distortion would also be great. Since it has digital delay, there’s no good reason why you can’t tweak it. Basically I’d like to see a more “pro” model of this to really let it compete and even expand on what tube amps can offer.
I’m new to this, but do solid state Amps even need an IR loader? I thought they were there so that tube amps wouldn’t explode when you okay them without a speaker.
Hey man I really want to buy this but have a 2x12 with a 30w an 60w speaker...so 60w total rating. It's handled a 30w all tube amp fine...I'm wondering if a 100W solid state amp like this poses risk to my cabinet? I'm not sure how exact this is...as volume and wattage are not the same; a 30w all tube head is probably as loud as a 100w solid state amp? I'm guessing...but, I'm afraid to ask.
I love JaiFets. 😜 Excellent explanation and demo. Just purchased one.
Just tried it yesterday. Sounds and feels great! I think it was best with the preamp completely cranked.
This is a great demo. I do, however, disagree that distorting a SS power amp is universally bad. I love cranking the clean channel of my little Rage 158 for a little crunch.
Adding an impulse response module could have been nice. I think that's pretty much standard practice these days. However, I understand the cost implications of that. I agree that the icing on the cake for this amp would have been a switch to turn off the emulation entirely. I suppose one could take the signal straight after the pedals in the effects loop, but you may then need a D.I. box or have an interface with padded inputs. You may also need a signal splitter too if you still want to power a cab live for monitoring without mic'ing. All in all, it's a sick amp and I want one.
With the state of trying to get valves these days, I gotta try one of these. I’ve seen many videos comparing this with the CR120 and the Rockerverb. Although it comes kinda close at a low volumes....no cigar. Especially at real gigging levels or keeping up with the rest of the band at rehearsals. It just seems to lack the punch of valves at those levels. But that’s just my take from demos I’ve seen and my past experience with solid state amps. But that was years ago. So I’ll reserve my opinion until I try one. I honestly hope it meets the hype because valves are going to be impossible to get anymore.
This reminds me of the weird valves-but-not-valves vox (I think?) developed. I know they use them in their mini amp heads (the mv50) and hughes&kettner used them (I think) in the black spirit as the tone generator or whatever they named that unit. There is also the nutube tube screamer. Potential video topic? It's interesting that noone uses them more widely when they claimed its the future of music gear.
i think this is one of the best solid state amps out there
Always a good day when I get to watch a csguitars video even if it’s a year old
I’m curious how the DI guitar tone would sound blended with a mic?
Today amplifiers like this are true gems. The amp world is more or less divided between all tube and digital modeling (which sounds killer by today but can be finicky and overwhelming), while light weight analog solid state amps which are not tiny practice devices but great sounding work horses are sooo hard to find. I play an AMT stonehead and would not trade it for anything. Tubes are cool but come on...at least the tube power stage (which makes an amp expensive) of many high gain tube amps is pretty clean anyways. For gigging, I've had enough of throwing my back out hauling tube heads.
Even with the EQ, the gain added a little bit of hiss to the sound, which is the thing that most drives me mad about solid state amps. If a company can somehow make a solid state that chucks that hissing out the window, I may switch over forever. I'm not a tube elitist, I think solid state amps are phenomenal for cleans, and I think digital modelling is nigh indistinguishable from real tubes/amplifiers (maybe not in the power section, but we're getting there). But solid state just doesn't do it for me when gain is involved. Sorry Orange, not even Collin could sell me on the Crush series, and he's a better salesman for it than anyone else out there.
I agree... I have a crush35rt. IF I run my boss eq pedal in the loop AND do like an OCD or some other decent low gain drive into the CLEAN channel, and THEN crank it real loud, MAYBE I'm feeling really good about it.
@@albertplaysguitar part of me really wishes that amp manufacturers would stop trying to make Solid State amps be competition for tube amps and instead lean into the stuff that is different about solid state amps. Make it a different, equally valuable tool to go alongside the tube amps, not attempt (and usually fail) to replace them. Occasionally an amp like the Roland Jazz Chorus comes around and nails that exact concept.
I think it might be the cabsim on it if he's using that for the sounds. I have the original crush 120 combo, and it sounds very rich and full with high gain.
Dv mark micro 50. Micro 50m if ur into metal.
Eq wise, it does what you seek.
@@MojoStrummer any thoughts on Quilter amps? I seen a blues player get indistinguishable amazing tones at a local joint.
do you do master volume up, channel volume down or the opposite?
I'm impressed with this amp for sure. Great demo! A little disappointed you didn't play "Supercrush" by Tiger Trap though.
Had this amp for about a year now I use for shows and practices. I'm now experiencing volume drop. When it was new it cut through the entire band mix. Anybody experience the same? Also running 4 peddles straight to face . I can't figure out what is going on here. Advice???