Gary Neville grills ex-PL CEO Richard Scudamore on Super League and more | The Overlap
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- In our first episode I sitdown with the former chief executive of the Premier League, Richard Scudamore.
We dive into Richard's past, reflecting on his childhood and how he became CEO of the Premier League.
I grill Richard over the power of the big six clubs and question the need for independent regulation, before we discuss the impact of the European Super League.
Make sure to stay tuned to see what present I brought Richard, and he also reveals his all-time Premier League XI.
Does the Premier League need an independent regulator? And should the 'Big-Six' clubs be punished? I want to know what you think in the comments.
Make sure to subscribe to never miss an episode, and let us know who you want to see my speak to next.
0:00-4:50 Richard Scudamore’s childhood & life before football
4:51-12:04 Becoming Chief Executive of the Football League then the Premier League
12:05-28:27 Project Big Picture, the power grab from the big six & is there a need for an independent regulator?
28:28-51:36 Reaction to the European Super League, will it return, and will there be consequences?
51:37-1:03:09 Richard’s career low-point, Gary’s present for Richard, and Richard’s all-time PL XI - Спорт
I’m really impressed impressed with Gary’s poise and interviewing skills.
Just wish he wouldn't try and shoehorn "woke" into it so much.
Totally agree with you big don. Realy like how he puts him at the spot on some questions.
He was wrong on certain accusations he tried to make. That's not a good interviewer. Several times scudamore had to tell him he is completely wrong and exxagerating on how the premier league is run.
It would appear you're double impressed
Better content on RUclips these days than tv
OK...
Agreed
Facts
Been that way for a while.
Bin the TV licence
Gary this is another great initiative. I've worked in the media for over 40 years and no former player uses his voice more effectively than you. Thanks for being a true defender of our sport and our football club. John Gubba
He has only just started to flip his lid, back in 2005 and untill now he has turned a blind eye. Yes im glad he is voicing his concerns, but he should have done this from the day the glazers and the rest set foot into football.
@@billbaggiotmua372 protests without a strategy are pointless. The difference now is that the 6 owners have crossed the line and opened the door for government intervention. Big difference. I’m a United fan. But this is not just about one club. We will ONLY get what we want if all football fans unite to demand the protection of a fan ownership model. JG
@@ManUtdTheReligion Totally , Glad we agree✌️
Bill Baggio thank you. Glazers haven’t been bad for a few weeks they’ve been bad for over a decade but didn’t say nothing. Gary Neville is a Man Utd legend and always will be but he is a hypocrite
@@greatestanalyser2354 Its all about the Glazers capitalising on their position in order to sell up, if they cave in now they get a hefty return (some 4/500% ish') or do they wait untill we win a trophy and gain qualification for cl again - and bump that figure up a little more? And thats a big IF , they sell up. As for gary, he is a manc, a lifelong supporter, played for united, captained united and won countless honours - i just wish his Mouth was running riot back when the glazers took over and ever since, it feels a bit like he also is jumping on the band wagon and capitalising for his own gains, Convenient this channel popping up right now🤔
I love how Gary dresses his insults up, “ I’m not going to be disrespectful and say the FA are a puppy dog to the premier league but....” 😂😂😂
Have you ever heard the maxim "anything said before the word 'but' should always be disregarded"?
Love it🤞, dressed up insults are REAL.
So when it is addressed, (for whatever future reason) there's proof that certain people know about it, how it works and that it is used regularly. 🤞
Noted.
@@DTblocks I mean, has anyone heard that 'maxim'?
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It's like the old classic Bertie Auld story when talking to Tiny Wharton (the ref)...He asked Wharton what would happen if he called him a bastard. Wharton replied that he’d send him off. He then asked, ‘what if I just think you’re a bastard?’ Wharton replied, ‘I can’t do anything if you just think it.’ To which Bertie replied, ‘well I think you’re a bastard!’
Neville is a brilliant interviewer, and to think that's not his primary skillset. Just think how different this conversation would be if Piers Morgan was interviewing: interruptions at every turn, imposing his view onto Scudamore, and trying to unfairly corner him. Neville lets them speak and it's wonderful.
Two men who genuinely want the best for football, they just have different ideas on how to achieve that.
This is a great watch, and refreshing to listen to “the bad man in the suit” first hand.
Shite 2 men who sky have paid to go out n act like they care. Gary been very quiet on sky bribing goverment to by pass competition law n allow sky to resign broadcast deal at same price as they know Amazon n Dazn would of out bid them.
@@scottmeehan9611 you seem to have a lot more information than everybody else, and it sounds like you haven’t watched the whole hour of this interview. Not everything is a conspiracy to keep poor little Scott down.
Garry is only bringing up all the regulations becos united is run so shite... he wouldn't be having this convo if they were still winning titles...
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@@scottmeehan9611 what a load of shite
Love gary even more. He asked litterly every question I have and most fans have. Just shows that he is truly a fan 1st
He's a moron 😆 he wants the top six to give hard earned money to the championship (rivals) that would just piss them off even more and make them push for the super league. And he can't grasp that 😂 he is defiantly a talisman for the simple fan
@@jacthetripper5171 ok professor... obviously its that simple.
@@chiselcheswick5673 more of a reality than what playgroup Gary's saying 😆 "hand them the money" .. "main overseer" haha you could see on the prem guys face he couldn't believe Gary's impotence 😂 💩
@@jacthetripper5171 he’s not asking for them to give money to championship teams only but the league 1 and 2 teams going bankrupt and folding because they don’t generate enough money to stay alive despite having more history and more loyal fans that the top 6 in the premier league. Your a moron if you think they shouldn’t do that.
@@jacthetripper5171 it’s been made clear so many times they can’t push for a super league even if they wanted to so why would that even matter? The game should be fairer and it can be fairer without damaging the premier league
Great interview G Nev. pressed him but let him explain answers. Never really knew anything about him . Very interesting.
These overlap interviews are amazingly in-depth. Gary Neville asks the questions we all want asked. And it's perfect.
Shame he left. You can see exactly why he was so good at his job in how he handled the tough questions. Didn't dodge one question. Gave his logic and opinion on each brilliantly.
he facilitied the pillaging of soccer fans, I don't know what planet u r on? he helped sowed what is being harvested now, the game has been ruined by profiteering
that doesnt mean he did a great job as a PL CEO
@@mrmc2465 People overseas are willing to pay.
@@mrmc2465 imagine if Seria A had him instead and EPL had whoever that was in charge of marketing Seria A...
All the money in Seria A, all the top players, managers in Seria A. Top managers like Klopp, Ancelotti, etc taking a punt on struggling giants like Napoli and Lazio instead of Liverpool and Everton etc. EPL leaking players like crazy.
He did more good than bad.
Bro look into Scudamore and you will know everything you said is absolute bullshit.
This is great. He should do more of these. Not just on football stuff.
Make sure to subscribe - there will be plenty more coming, not just football too!
@@TheOverlap please no ex gangster types lol
Yeah, cos Gary Neville is basically Louis Theroux
Who wants to see Gary interviewing people about anything other than football lol? Not me
@@andrew-jv7iv Gary is taking a paycheck from Sky he doesn't give 2 fucks about the football "pyramid"
Richard literally being rational and calm ... its like just chill Gary, though I can’t fault Gary’s passion though
This is one of the most interesting interviews I've ever watched. Not a dull moment.
Richard scudamore is so impressive in this interview, calm and cool under questioning. No wonder he did so well in the role.
lol
I don't agree with lots of what he said but I thought the same thing. He's handles every question very well.
Well in Gaz the more conversations we have and the more we put questions to those in power the greater the chance we have of saving and curating the game we all love! big fan
Fireworks! You been a giant lately defending football. Cheers from Norway. Love you Gary.
This guy is very interesting, if he had a podcast I'd be very interested to listen. There's too many ex footballers around thinking they know everything just because they used to kick a ball around.
I can tell why the premier league has been so successful these few decades. With his strategies and way of thinking. Wow.
Fantastic viewpoints! The ability to discuss in a manner that they do is impressive. You don’t see this kind of dialogue anymore. This is 100% a great watch and much respect to these two gentlemen.
Really love listening to Gary. I'm actually mainly a rugby fan but he's one of the most incisive and intelligent commentators in sport. Seems like a great bloke too. Really enjoyed this and look forward to more.
Greetings from 🇮🇪
Excellent idea to continue the discussion after the introduction of the Super League. Well done Gary! And excellent interview by the way.
I agreed and disagreed with Richard throughout but really enjoyed the conversation and how open he was at points.
Looking forward to more of these
this was brilliant. Never knew Richard was so well spoken and had really good thought out come backs for Gary's questions. Excellent.
He has great charisma. That must have played a huge part in his success.
really? he comes across as a generic CEO who wants to mitigate damages and doesn't do shit. spineless.
i think scudamore understands the EFL's so well this was such an interesting interview
Richard has my full respect. Extremely well composed, accurate in all his answers and honestly he brings the side to the table that you can easily forget. Neville asked some good questions and some emotionally charged and somewhat narrowed questions, but all were answered properly and respectfully. Top tier CEO
He was incredibly impressive in this interview…broke down Gary’s questions one by one and gave well reasoned explanations for why the business of football is as it is
Gary Neville is so impressive!..He's come a long way from being outrageous to Liverpool fans! He's a man who possesses great values and principles who's not scared to speak up!
Quality discussion. I'm a huge fan of Neville and his passion but Scudamore provided a different take on things
Best interviews I’ve watched; that are actually, really really good conversations… FANTASTIC..!!
This is sooo good, love the content Gaz. Please make more !
Great episode Gary, enjoyed it. You have great knowledge about football and your love and passion for this game is amazing!
Great 'conversation'. You don't often get that. Gary's list of discussion points was spot on. No stone left unturned. Richard Scudamore - Respect
Excellent stuff and really interesting insight. Keep fighting for the game Gary!
This is a Brilliant interview, and conducted so well by Gary. It’s nice to see an interview where the person being interviewed has the chance to fully answer the question instead of being interrupted. And it’s also interesting to see an interview with one of the big players behind the scenes. Interview Daniel Levy!
Watched the HarryKane one first - have to say that Mr Neville really steps up to the plate here.
100 per cent on your side Gary. Great to see that you have the fans and smaller clubs at heart.
Fantastic interview. You take your time to get off on the right foot and to get into depth of the issue, you rarely interrupt which is
so rarely seen these days. But so important for the two people sitting across from one another feeling the willingness to be open and honest. I'm sure that
lots of journalists will/can learn from you. And with your skills and mental powers you can go and interview anybody about just about anything. Well done Gary.
Positive, passionate and civil. Great interview and both sides were allowed to disagree, put their arguments across as to why and then leave the audience to make up their own mind. If only the news channels and politicians could watch this and take notes! Good on you sky, sky sports and GNev
Just found the channel and I've subbed. Cheers for all the great memories Gary ❤⚽️
Found!? It’s only a week old.
@@miamitten1123 Your calendar must be broken.
Really good stuff. Two intelligent, articulate and well informed individuals having a robust yet respectful debate. If only political debate in this country was like this.
This is brilliant ! One of the best interviews I've seen recently .
Love this Gary
great stuff gary always respected you as a player but even more as a fan of football, your stance on recent events has defined you keep up the good work. great interview.
One must say: wow! First of all Mr. Neville is such a delight in terms of interviewing. He has developed an open, fresh approach to talking in a natural and honest way with people. It’s not as much an interview as it is a proper conversation but with proper and, at times, difficult questions. He doesn’t come over as a staged interviewer. He is an authentic and clever journalist of a kind but at the same time a real person. I’ve grown very fond of his ways. As a Liverpool member it’s not even weird. His work is amazing. One has to love his podcasts and this Overlap programme is absolutely brilliant! I’d pay for this. Monthly. It’s great insights. Gary Neville has really become an unmissable source on football. Richard Scudamore is a massively interesting man, too. His approach to learning is something one must wholeheartedly agree with. It was an absolute pleasure to watch this and it could have gone on for another hour without ever being boring. Fantastic work! Glad this sort of educational and inspiring material is out there. Well done, Sky.
simply brilliant Gary. Thank you.
I like Gary Neville. Never ever thought I'd hear myself say that back in Gary's playing days, but since he hung up his boots we can now see the real him instead of this fabricated image of hate that we tend to build up about other team's players due to rivalry. He did very well in this interview.
Loved this, educational at the same time..
Wonderful interview. Pure gentleman.
Really good show that. Interesting with a fun ending. Top work
You’re honestly a national treasure Gary, doing a lot of good for the game🙏
The irony of hearing Neville talk about ffp and financial equality in football. Paying players way over the odds with $alford. Strikers on £5k a week in the conference a few years ago. He talks about managers needing more time to build a style of play and a team.....he goes through 3 managers in a year. He's not wrong in what he's saying but he's a hypocrite.
They always are tbh. I quite like Gary and love this show but yeh he's a hypocrite. He takes about poverty and socialism yet lives in a gated mansion and drives a Bentley.
This was … electric. You just don’t see fierce debate these days on TV without it descending into a sort of contest of emotions, but here it was, and done with integrity and intelligence.
The wider Culture should be taking notice of this.
Best interviewer I have come across. Congratulations
I like him. He has a good brain - sure he has to, to go on and have the influence he'd had.
And boy! I needed that his advice to the young entrepreneur: 'don't be too driven/ambitious..there will be disappointment(s)'
What an interview! Loved every bit of it. Scudamore spittin facts, deconstructs a lot of the noise Gary comes with. Gary’s great, but often just outrage rather than constructive
Another underrated comment
Totally agree
Fantastic interview. Great questions and informative answers. We need more of this.
A brilliant, ground breaking interview in some sense. Brilliant listen
The second part of this interview is basically socialism vs capitalism
Was thinking the exact same thing. Johnson v Corbyn
I absolutely agree on this. Was looking for a comment on that.
that’s what i was thinking
Gary Neville conducts a great interview with no lame questions. Richard Scudamore is absolutely brilliant. I couldn't disagree with any of his core beliefs. That said, I do honestly think that more must be done to make it absolutely clear to non-English club buyers that regardless of their up-front and subsequent investments, they will never have the power to change the nature of English football...period! If that takes regulatory change so be it. Compelling clubs to what owners believe are unrealistic or unreasonable revenue sharing is ultimately counter-productive and would fail long term. Let me finally emhasize that framing every disagreement with Adam Smith's free market as one between capitalism versus socialism is the worst sort of reductionist thinking. As an American living in California it's not unreasonable for me to say that if the past 40 years have taught Americans anything its that capitalism, if left unregulated, will consume itself. The trick is not to over regulate to the point of suffocating competition. In the US, Milton Friedman's inane free market ideology has wrecked US social cohesion and destroyed the delicate relationship between government and the govered. Sadly, we've done our damndest to drag the rest of the world down our experimental rabbit hole. In doing so, we've ignored lessons that should have been learned from 19th century conditions both here and in UK: greed is not a good think in a society that seeks to promote democracy.
Lemon Socialism
This was really interesting.
Good to see someone push back robustly to the idea that you just keep chucking money at the lower leagues. I don't know what the answer is but it was a very thoughtful interview.
Why were you glad to see push back particularly if you don't know what the answer is?
If the question is "How do you increase participation at the grass roots level of football? Or quite a few other questions a possible good answer is to spread the PL wealth around a bit more evenly. Look what lottery money has done to GB Olympic medal totals, its absurd how many more medals GB wins now compered to before.
@@jasperlawrence5361 TeamGB undertook an analysis to identify the most promising sports to invest in order to get a medal return on investment and ruthlessly funded those at the expense of others. If you like the TeamGB model, that would lead to the opposite of what you advocate for and we'd end up with fewer clubs albeit with better facilities. Maybe there are too many clubs chasing too little money. My point is that how you spend money is as important as how much is spent but often that part of the discussion gets lost. As i don't know what the answer is, i found it useful to hear a response from the other side.
@@justme-hh4vp I read an article about how they chose who to fund which described the process as you do. I would like to see more money to enable people to play football, saving lower league clubs doesn't appeal to me but it might to others. We don't currently have a mechanism for soaking the PL as we do for distributing Lottery money, do we?
Why would you want to give more money you've earned to future opponents and make them stronger.
This is great Gary, thanks. Very real. Cheers, Dave.
Great interview and looking forward to watching more!
Richard Scudamore taught me more about football in this hours than anyone else. I didn't know about him until now, but he is brilliant!
30yo lfc man But defo grew to like Gaz Top man top player You can't hate on passion and this man had it in abundance
Great to hear them when they have the time to go into the details like this..
Gary keep this up ! Don’t stop lad ! We are all behind you and are proud of you and the work your doing .
Gary: "With all my guests I like to go back to the very beginning"
Description: "This is first episode"
He’s been watching to much James English
He’s probably already recorded lots of interviews for this channel but this one was released early due to super League announcement
@@jamieroberts1231 nice to see someone offer some critical thinking in a comment section
Gary Neville never discusses the elephant in the room: The ratio of turnover to player wages being 1: 0.9, which is far too high. Until salary limits are introduced as a % of turnover, say 65%, then we'll be having the same conversation in 10 years time. I can't listen to Gary anymore on the issue of PBP/Super League until he discusses the fact that excessive player wages eating into turnover as the driving factor for the big clubs perpetually seeking extra revenue. He's dodging the main issue. Carragher same, never discusses excessive player wages taken from clubs turnover
If he asked that question, how do you think the players would react?
They'd stop him.
If he manages to get his way I'm sure he'll address the issue.
@@HorridDave la liga introduced it so there’s you’re entire argument gone already and is why messi had to leave.
it doesn’t limit the amount any one player can earn it limits the total salary bill of all players and I’d assume staff to how much revenue you make, if you make 100 million then you can spend 65 million annually in the OP’s suggested percentage, you can spread that salary as you like just as long as you don’t go over that 65 million.
yep that was the one good thing from the super league proposal - salary caps
I love the before and after super league questions!! Keep this up!! Get some PL owners on!!
Surprisingl;y, the best one yet. Brilliant stuff.
Great interview. Loved it. He comes across as a very smart man. Huge respect.
Ye I respect him answering the questions but I do disagree with him
Great insight into the man who drove the Premier league supercar to the heights it is at now. I feel Gary and Richard have the same respect and views on the football pyramid system. Richards is driven by passion, experience and knowledge whereas Garys is driven by passion, heart and the desire to protect all interests. Ultimately the same ethos of a fair and moral deal for all clubs. Ten stars Mr Neville.
You deluded fool.
Gaz.. great interview! You can see your representing as a fan! Kudos from myself 👍
Good too hear from richard scudamore from the other side of th ef the football world nice one gary top podcast again
so this happened before the ESL thing? it's crazy how close they were talking about that kind of thing before it even happened
Fantastic discussion all round.
I think Richard understands economics in a very sophisticated manner, and Gary is not quite on his level - that's why Gary want's outside regulation and why Richard is fine with current regulation and self-actualization of clubs.
That's the reality and how economic works, super league was created in the first place to offset the economic and financial impact that Covid had to the industry and was to catered to the fans desired to watch matches with big names in high frequency and eventually buy high profile player. Big clubs themselves don't like the current UCL because of UEFA monopoly eventhough they are just an organizer and take a huge chunk of the money. Without the big clubs, nobody wants to watch the UCL at all. That's the fact, period. Sure football without fans is nothing. But without big money and great names associated with it, these "entitled" football fans won't watch it at all with a few exceptions being the locals.
Garry Neville has genuine respect and love for all football fans. Huge respect!
As a Liverpool fan i never liked an united player, but Gary as a person, my respect for you just keeps growing
Looks interesting, going to watch this tonight! Carragher on for the Xmas special I take it or are you sick to death of the sight of him!?
Brilliant.
As an Irishman who loved watching Gary Neville Not just because he was 1 of the best in the world in the right back position after Parker who was an excellent player also but this channel and the way Neville questions these lads is excellent.Keep up the good work Gary.
Well done Gary! Asking the right questions!
Gary is most Honest Media guy covering Footbal at moment and highlighting problems
Hmmm some of the stuff he said he gets very emotional about and said some horrible stuff about people and some of the comments lol
I do like Neville, which is something I thought I'd never say as a City fan. But to me, when he starts going on about the lower league clubs not getting enough money compared to the premier league, is a bit disingenuous to me, given he's an owner of the lower league club. Why shouldn't the clubs that generated the lion share of the revenue get the lion share of the money.
@@peterabnormal327 yeah, he said some horrible things about some horrible people, is he is honest
Great first interview and love Gary's style. When discussing why he was against an independent regulator Richard made the analogy of "grocery shops/tesco etc aren't regulated". Sorry Richard but they are by consumer law. Football needs non-biased financial and infrastructure regulation in the UK. I think there needs to 100% be an honest and fair discussion about the distribution of wealth and how the Premier League is at the top of an eco-system of player development, not working in isolation. There needs to be checks and balances with regards to owner conduct beyond the fit and proper person's test that is robust and sincere. Ideally the premier league, football league and FA should all be under the auspices of parliamentary supervision with regards to regulations in conjunction with FIFA/UEFA rules. This is about safeguarding the future of clubs and the structure of the game for generations to come. Owners of clubs are merely custodians and whilst I am not against profit, I am against mis-management and sadly the current state of affairs has led to the top clubs in England being run out of self interest and not for the good of the game. Their is no reason why clubs can't make money within a fair and ethical framework that protect's their long term sustainable future as well as that of the game's.
Excellent, well written post..
intriguingly compelling interview. well done!
This is the fastest I have subscribed to a RUclips channel. I see Gary Neville, I click subscribe. Great content, keep em coming Gazza !
22:37 "When was the last person who was inappropriate to own a Premier League club during the Premier League?"
Big six owners: Allow us to introduce ourselves
LITERALLY all of them.
Define inappropriate. It's all in the details...
Mike Ashley is sad
United and Arsenal are fine, literally all the others are either oil money or chinese
@@victorkreig6089 United and Arsenal are owned by Americans. I’m an American but I think American owners are bad for the sport
Love Gary even though I'm a Liverpool fan, I think he's great and I love his passion for football. I actually think Richard gave some fair responses to Gary's questions and I think I agree with Richard regarding the distribution of wealth. Great interview.
I think a massive redistribution will cripple the strength of big teams in Europe, and lowering the league's standard. Neville acts as if the league is in a bubble, only competing against one another.
What a great interview, thoroughly enjoyed that
Richard is a very smart man. Wow. Great interview. Kinda disappointed by Gary who failed to be objective
With regards to distribution of money I think Scudamore is spot on, in literally everything he says. Where he is out of touch is what Gary touched on with fans being treated as consumer and customers, ticket prices etc
You think ticket prices should be artificially lower?
In exchange for watching lower quality football?
@@danielwebb8402 Are you sure there is a relation between hier price tickets and better football?
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Well I think we'd have less world class players if we paid lower wages than other top flights. And that lower ticket prices will lead to lower available funds for wages.
We have no god given human right to the world's best players. We didn't have in the 90s. We had Chris Sutton being a top striker vs his equivalent today of Watkins or Ings being a lower mid table starter.
@@danielwebb8402 United make ~£38M a year just from season ticket holders. Avg cost of £725 per season ticket. They could drop it to £500 for all and still make £26.5M per season off them.
It’s pure greed.
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"Make"
You've assumed that they have zero costs in that calculation.
Salford badge & prem logo was hilarious.
I like these podcasts. Love to see Gary on talk sport with Simon.
really interesting conversation. Great watch!
Gary should try and get the likes of Ed Woodward on The Overlap after he's left his role at United, that would be interesting to say the least.
Ed wouldn’t dare. Same for glazers, Kronke & Levy. No interest in standing up for their actions
@@mickellwoolf2441 I think he's more likely out of the ones you've named, there's been some stories floating about after the whole E.S.L debacle that he was against it and that's why he's stepped down from his role he may or may not be behind those stories trying to gain some good p.r but if that is the case I think he would be more inclined to do an interview like this after he has officially left his role, I just think it would be interesting to hear his side and also the challenges from a chief exec point of view of one of the biggest clubs in the world & of course with Gary of all people wouldn't go easy on him with the questioning, might get some interesting stuff out of him.
Richard scudamore is a an example of the problems in football, unwilling to change and treats it like a business
I heard some seats for an arsenal game cost more than a season ticket for a bvb game , it's alright if the team is winnsing ucls in and out it's another thing when it's dog shit
@@erlinghaaland5716 it's all about the $$$$ they dont care about the fans, they only care about how deep they can stick their hands in the fans pockets
to be fair, it is a business now, that's just the reality
@@FlushyTheDrummer it's a shit business then u need to successful in the long run to get returns on ur initial business
@@erlinghaaland5716 Thats London, everything is expensive their , plus arsenal are owned by greedy yanks and use that stature as an excuse to overcharge.
Excellent piece. Watched it with pleasure.
This guy is smooth and savvy with his ability to stay on top of the question. Total pro. Gary is really showing his metal here too.
I'm with Richard on most issues.
Must be nice to be born into a time when there are tonnes of big business that gives people with no experience a chance not a dead end shop job
Why didn't everyone do it then
@@mu6qy because not everyone thinks that way and it was the norm, so nothing you felt you needed to captilise on. You could also get your own house/car on a regular job but because it was so normal not everyone did.
This was actually quite good, balanced and rationale talk
This is always fun to watch Gary interviewing various different people linked with football. Would be good if he done this with ronaldo or other sport celebrities