Stunning bit of kit but a punchy £4k! They've gone balls out here to produce the ultimate. I'm happy with my £1450 6 speed with dynamo! (for now - I know the 3sp hub is heavy but I need those 6 spds to get up those really steep long hills..)
Same. Wishing I had felt sure I would get the good out of the additional expense and went for the superlight version but I am happy with the fit of my H6R. I really do use all 6 gears 😅
Same same, I love and use my 6 speed thoroughly, in fact, I'm thinking of changing the standard 13/16 cogs to 12/17 cogs. It should help even more on the hills and perhaps make up a little more speed on the flats. I'm not a speed demon so that part is not important. Has anyone tried this setup?
@@harrypressman2 just to clarify, you mean you're going to make your small cog one tooth less and your large Cog one tooth more on your rear cassette? I bet that would be pretty awesome with the standard chainring so I could dispense with this 12% gear ring reduction and still have a similar lowest gear? That would make my high gear MUCH higher 😍🤯 I hadn't thought of this. And the difference will be minimal for the chain so it would probably keep the same standard chain or only need a link or two more (highest gear with the big gear ring and Cog in thinking 🤔
@@NoZenith That's exactly my thoughts. Actually I read that another RUclipsr did this and it works quite well so it's not my idea. The only thing is from where and whom do I order the cogs from. Being here in Canada, my choices are limited. Any ides?
@@harrypressman2 I am from Michigan and I haven't the foggiest! 😅 if you can figure out the terminology to describe the type of spindle the cogs go on (they are keyed to only go on one way so you either have to have custom cogs made that would fit or find the brand and specific model). I remember people discussing being able to stick an additional kaghan but I never thought to just change the large and small COG so you wouldn't have to change the shifters or any other Hardware. That's ingenious. So simple and yet perfect. My bike came with a 12% reduced gearing as I said above and that really makes that lowest gear virtually useless except going up a steep incline but then I'm extremely glad to have it... But then going downhill, I can't pedal hard enough so even the highest gear is useless. Honestly you've got the perfect solution if I pair that with the standard gear ring
It's nice to see finally an original full titanium frame, but it's not as innovative as you claim to be, aftermarket titanium frames have been available for ages on Chinese online marketplaces...
This is the bike I would need with my back problems! My M3R stays at home these days, being too heavy for me to go down two floors with it on my shoulder like I used to do before... But given the price, I can't afford to change it...
I so wish you could integrate a couple of holes on the back of the stem for a bottle cage mount…providing only it doesn’t affect the integrity of the stem of course.
Well it took Brompton long enough but I'm glad they finally make a full Titanium bike. Time to start looking for a buyer for my left kidney. Anyone baulking at the price hasn't tried to lighten their steel frame Brompton down to sub 8kg, using good quality lightweight parts. I'm not referring to no-name knock off body components from China, which can yield a 5+kg build if you're into that sort of thing.
The 8 kilos are OK but the 4 speeds are a big No if you live in a place with steep hills. "Tested in San Francisco"??? I have my doubts... PS: Some people wanted Brompton to go for disc brakes but keeping the rim brakes is actually OK. Lighter and easier to maintain.
I've got a 12kg Brompton 6 speed and regularly go up 10-15%+ inclines on countryside jaunts. I've also lived in SF and most of the normal hills you'd face day to day are no problem. Lombard St you might fall backwards towards the top if you were on an M though! Needs low position.
Looks great, but the admission its not actually under 7.5kg but over 8kg with all the things you need "to actually use it in a practical way" haha. Awai the price...
@@norahalkefs depends on where you ride your bike…..changing of gearing is possible in order to suit your requirements. Otherwise you’ll have to look for another external rear hub or complete wheel that can take up to 7 gears if you really need to. Not to forget you’ll need a new shifter when doing so. Another option is adding another chainring up front and putting a front derailleur and front shifter, which defeat the object of it being lightweight.
@@gonzaga3c Do you think it would be just better to get the six gear Brompton or do you think in the future they will make the same kind of light one with six gears I have a feeling the 4 gears would not be enough.
@@norahalkefs if you are considering a six gear you’ll be looking at the latest C-line Explore. This will come with the old steel front fork and rear stay. Price wise start around £1500 British Pounds and £1700 for the special color. This weight around 12kg. The new P-line again only 4 gears maximum to save weight. So truly this will depend on your budget and usage on what exactly the bike you after. Do also remember when buying the T-Line that in order to keep the same weight you’ll have to buy a similar product or parts which cost more than normal parts on the other Brompton to keep the weight of the bike. The only thing I could think of them adding gear is to make anothe rear wheel and have a suitable derailleur to accommodate the extra gear and a new shifter….But I highly doubt they will. If gearing is your issue have you consider their Electric range?
@@NoZenith Weight. One of the reasons I prefer my 2 speed Brompton to one with a Sturmey hub gear. It depends on what you need, so for flat terrain 'tis better.
@@deepindercheema4917 I would love one with the more upright seating position and the four-speed. I am not an enthusiastic cyclist low so my 6-speed H6R works really well for me. I do wish I had one higher gear for when I'm on the level/downhill though. I tend to run of pedal too easily
@@NoZenith I am quite excited about the T line. I know a major shareholder and ex director of Brompton but when last year he told me about a titanium edition I was slightly underwhelmed by the P line and thought that was what he hinted at to me. The T line is a revelation as well as taking me by surprise. I will be asking him for his feedback now that he has one.
Is this another new line? Sorry, I'm new to Brompton and have been researching to buy one. The new P line is also light, what's the difference between the T and P lines?
P line has the old steel frame and stem with a Ti fork and it weighs around 9.5kg …… whereas the new T line has the newly designed Titanium main frame, stem and carbon fiber fork and weight less than 8kg. Both P and T line share the same rear stay or back end apart from the other parts which the T line has been significantly change or updated for a much lighter parts. If you have the budget I would suggest to go for the T line if you can get hold of one. Or you could always pop into your local Junction to see both and decide.
@@gonzaga3c hey there. Thanks a lot for your information. It's very helpful. T line is definitely something that I'm interested in. I'm petite, so less weight is a welcome for me. I hope they come out with a nice color.
@@n.h2786 by keeping its weight I think it only comes in Raw titanium☺️ But I could be wrong😌 Don’t forget if ever you decide to get one, replacement parts should be life for like in order to keep the weight also. Meaning they are slightly more expensive than the norm😄
Whilst the seat post is a clever bit of engineering I’m just wondering what steps have been taken to stop galvanic corrosion between these two materials?
I hadn't thought of that! I know it'll have a plastic sleeve like all the brompton's... perhaps they make it full length instead of just the clamping area?
갬성 넘 좋다. 근데 제대로좀 만들자! 리어샥 중앙정렬도 안 되게 만들고는 무슨 명품. It's so sentimental. But let's make Brompton Perfect. What luxury brand do you mean you can't even make the rear frame bent? FOCUS ON QUALITY PLEASE.
“The only thing we did not chance was the breaking system.” Which is the only thing I really wish they would change. I would love to ride a disc break Brompton equipped with through axels for ease of service.
If you really feel strongly about the brakes, do what I did: put (a considerable amount of) money aside and send your bike to Kinetics in Glasgow. I now have Hope hydraulic disc brakes front and rear on my Brom.
the design and shape are obviously deviating from the classic brompton. Hopefully it really is lightweight out of the box.. And might be good if we can modify the parts to make it even lighter like 6kg. A dream commuting device to carry inside public transport. I think ergonomy and pbeing portable should be put into consideration as well to make sure this product is very useful.
It's already got carbon fiber cranks and front fork... I can't see where anyone is gong to save even a decent fraction of a kilo off this without going high end carbon wheels.
@@NoZenith You’ll be surprised, will wait once one will get hold of one and start weighing each individual parts because they will always source for a much lighter ones. But that’s crazy to think now that you have to spend another few thousands on top of what you already paid for🙁 The only question in there is if it is still durable and comfortable for daily ride compared to the stock. My guess by the end of the year someone will have a 6.5 to 7kg T line.
Seem like they will be offering a 58t chainring at some point. I suspect that people will start fiddling with alternative sized sprockets fairly quickly too. There is already some experimenting on the P Line cassette stack.
It's great to see that Brompton has finally taken a decisive step to reduce the weight of this otherwise outstanding product instead of repeating an annual cosmetic exercise that never dealt with the real issue. Disc brakes will make Brompton enthusiasts even happier! By the way, Brompton should consider offering prospective customers models on a progressive weight reduction scale in proportion to their respective prices; for example, descending from the new high-end T Line would be: (1) Steel stem with Titanium frame, fork & rear triangle; (2) Steel frame with titanium stem, fork & rear triangle; (3) Steel frame & stem with Titanium fork and rear triangle (= former Superlight), etc., etc. This would make the new generation Brompton more attainable by a wider spectrum of customers.
These things will be like hen’s teeth - despite costing a fortune they will keep numbers low to maintain exclusivity and hence demand. Your only chance will be to buy second hand where the price will be marked up to over £5500 or more. I have a 2014 m3 in orange so I do like Bromptons.
Great engineering feat! But too expensive for the most of us. How about a more affordable option from aluminium, Shimano Nexus/Alfine 8 speed gearhub, belt drive, integrated ligthts, cables, lock, disc brakes. In short: it unfolds as quickly as a classic Brompton, with updates tech, and a sleek, uncluttered look when unfolded.
They hold patents on most of their designs so will be unlikely to change components to other brands where there would be little profit. Aluminium has never been an option as it doesn’t have as good life long mechanical properties as steel - especially at the joints where there is possibility for failure from cracking. As for internal wiring - easier said than done when folding. They need room to ‘stretch’ which would be inhibited by routing through the frame. Basically- they have already considered the options you have mentioned.
Looks cool, but I bet it won’t squirm under me at speed like my 1970’s Bickerton? I’ll stick to the spaghetti framed 5 speed 👍 😂 Honestly? Great job 👍 How much is it 🤔🤔🤔😏
massive disconnect between the wording and the actual product : nothing changed in the concept... an the end is absolutely the illustration of ego in action "my vision of the product". 101 wrong comms. get help.
I've been riding this bike for about a month ruclips.net/user/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
the lightest Brompton with the heaviest price.
A normal bike is circa £1200. This machine is £4000 so you've really got to want the best!
There is the law of diminishing returns.
@@kentwydell9322 Diminishing returns for the buyer, you mean. Gosh, this is expensive!
@@effyleven nobody in this thread is complaining. We're just pointing out a fact: it *is* expensive.
It’s not the lightest Brompton, someone in Singapore built a 7.0 kg Brompton.
ruclips.net/video/08376nyjdag/видео.html
Stunning bit of kit but a punchy £4k! They've gone balls out here to produce the ultimate.
I'm happy with my £1450 6 speed with dynamo! (for now - I know the 3sp hub is heavy but I need those 6 spds to get up those really steep long hills..)
Same. Wishing I had felt sure I would get the good out of the additional expense and went for the superlight version but I am happy with the fit of my H6R. I really do use all 6 gears 😅
Same same, I love and use my 6 speed thoroughly, in fact, I'm thinking of changing the standard 13/16 cogs to 12/17 cogs. It should help even more
on the hills and perhaps make up a little more speed on the flats. I'm not a speed demon so that part is not important. Has anyone tried this setup?
@@harrypressman2 just to clarify, you mean you're going to make your small cog one tooth less and your large Cog one tooth more on your rear cassette? I bet that would be pretty awesome with the standard chainring so I could dispense with this 12% gear ring reduction and still have a similar lowest gear? That would make my high gear MUCH higher 😍🤯 I hadn't thought of this. And the difference will be minimal for the chain so it would probably keep the same standard chain or only need a link or two more (highest gear with the big gear ring and Cog in thinking 🤔
@@NoZenith That's exactly my thoughts. Actually I read that another RUclipsr did this and it works quite well so it's not my idea. The only thing is from where and whom do I order the cogs from. Being here in Canada, my choices are limited. Any ides?
@@harrypressman2 I am from Michigan and I haven't the foggiest! 😅 if you can figure out the terminology to describe the type of spindle the cogs go on (they are keyed to only go on one way so you either have to have custom cogs made that would fit or find the brand and specific model). I remember people discussing being able to stick an additional kaghan but I never thought to just change the large and small COG so you wouldn't have to change the shifters or any other Hardware. That's ingenious. So simple and yet perfect. My bike came with a 12% reduced gearing as I said above and that really makes that lowest gear virtually useless except going up a steep incline but then I'm extremely glad to have it... But then going downhill, I can't pedal hard enough so even the highest gear is useless. Honestly you've got the perfect solution if I pair that with the standard gear ring
It's nice to see finally an original full titanium frame, but it's not as innovative as you claim to be, aftermarket titanium frames have been available for ages on Chinese online marketplaces...
This is the bike I would need with my back problems! My M3R stays at home these days, being too heavy for me to go down two floors with it on my shoulder like I used to do before...
But given the price, I can't afford to change it...
Why aint these available on the NHS as a therapy tool ?
When is the new electric being released? It's been 5 years...
I so wish you could integrate a couple of holes on the back of the stem for a bottle cage mount…providing only it doesn’t affect the integrity of the stem of course.
Well it took Brompton long enough but I'm glad they finally make a full Titanium bike. Time to start looking for a buyer for my left kidney.
Anyone baulking at the price hasn't tried to lighten their steel frame Brompton down to sub 8kg, using good quality lightweight parts.
I'm not referring to no-name knock off body components from China, which can yield a 5+kg build if you're into that sort of thing.
and still, millions of ppl are buying 40-100k SUVs somehow...
Nice work! But did you give it more tire clearance!? We need bigger supple tires! Not all roads are race tracks.
Agreed. Have had to re-do (home-made wooden mudguards etc) my Moulton to take non-slick Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres.
How susceptible is the frame to dents?
No chance. Except with sledgehammer
From the videos you have thin wall tubing and will easily dent. Just like any other oversize titanium tube frame would have.
Seeeeexy!!! I really love the approach to make a really small bike very light too. I will buy one.
"Reinvented." And yet stuck in the last century with no disc brakes.
As I understand it, weight and simplicity are paramount to a commuter, therefore Brompton.
Disc brakes will be an added £1000 for titanium sir. Or did you want aluminum instead. lmo
The 8 kilos are OK but the 4 speeds are a big No if you live in a place with steep hills. "Tested in San Francisco"??? I have my doubts...
PS: Some people wanted Brompton to go for disc brakes but keeping the rim brakes is actually OK. Lighter and easier to maintain.
I've got a 12kg Brompton 6 speed and regularly go up 10-15%+ inclines on countryside jaunts. I've also lived in SF and most of the normal hills you'd face day to day are no problem. Lombard St you might fall backwards towards the top if you were on an M though! Needs low position.
Looks great, but the admission its not actually under 7.5kg but over 8kg with all the things you need "to actually use it in a practical way" haha. Awai the price...
Still incredibly light for a fully featured and foldable bike though. 8kg! Awesome.
@@markymarkreviews I agree, would just be better to announce what it weighs rather than what it doesn't. I look forward to seeing one!
amazing! wish i could have one in future
May I ask please,how many gears does this bike have?????
Choice of 1 or 4 being 4 will be slightly more expensive.
@@gonzaga3c Is 4 enough or do we go for six?
@@norahalkefs depends on where you ride your bike…..changing of gearing is possible in order to suit your requirements.
Otherwise you’ll have to look for another external rear hub or complete wheel that can take up to 7 gears if you really need to. Not to forget you’ll need a new shifter when doing so. Another option is adding another chainring up front and putting a front derailleur and front shifter, which defeat the object of it being lightweight.
@@gonzaga3c Do you think it would be just better to get the six gear Brompton or do you think in the future they will make the same kind of light one with six gears I have a feeling the 4 gears would not be enough.
@@norahalkefs if you are considering a six gear you’ll be looking at the latest C-line Explore. This will come with the old steel front fork and rear stay. Price wise start around £1500 British Pounds and £1700 for the special color. This weight around 12kg.
The new P-line again only 4 gears maximum to save weight.
So truly this will depend on your budget and usage on what exactly the bike you after.
Do also remember when buying the T-Line that in order to keep the same weight you’ll have to buy a similar product or parts which cost more than normal parts on the other Brompton to keep the weight of the bike.
The only thing I could think of them adding gear is to make anothe rear wheel and have a suitable derailleur to accommodate the extra gear and a new shifter….But I highly doubt they will.
If gearing is your issue have you consider their Electric range?
Will there be a T-Line electric?
Unknown at this point. With that carbon front fork I'm wondering what they will do in that space though
Fantastic job! Is the support tube on the mainframe be 3-D Printed or Lost Wax Casting?
Love my T Line 12 speed
Wow! Congrats.
Looks Good~
This is Brilliant. Go UK engineering!
Finally you guys make a Titanium bike. Is that a new derailleur there?
I would love to try the titanium single speed and see how the weight difference feels compared to my steel single speed.
That is a good test for a basic and ultimate comparison.
It's 8kg compared to 11-12kg
@@NoZenith Weight. One of the reasons I prefer my 2 speed Brompton to one with a Sturmey hub gear. It depends on what you need, so for flat terrain 'tis better.
@@deepindercheema4917 I would love one with the more upright seating position and the four-speed. I am not an enthusiastic cyclist low so my 6-speed H6R works really well for me. I do wish I had one higher gear for when I'm on the level/downhill though. I tend to run of pedal too easily
@@NoZenith I am quite excited about the T line. I know a major shareholder and ex director of Brompton but when last year he told me about a titanium edition I was slightly underwhelmed by the P line and thought that was what he hinted at to me. The T line is a revelation as well as taking me by surprise. I will be asking him for his feedback now that he has one.
I called it tline noise,which from beginning to the end never stop!
絶対買う。日本でいつ販売されますか？
Does the bike roll when folded?
if you have the roller frame fitted then the bike will roll on the wheels very easily
Is this another new line? Sorry, I'm new to Brompton and have been researching to buy one. The new P line is also light, what's the difference between the T and P lines?
P line has the old steel frame and stem with a Ti fork and it weighs around 9.5kg …… whereas the new T line has the newly designed Titanium main frame, stem and carbon fiber fork and weight less than 8kg. Both P and T line share the same rear stay or back end apart from the other parts which the T line has been significantly change or updated for a much lighter parts.
If you have the budget I would suggest to go for the T line if you can get hold of one. Or you could always pop into your local Junction to see both and decide.
@@gonzaga3c hey there. Thanks a lot for your information. It's very helpful. T line is definitely something that I'm interested in. I'm petite, so less weight is a welcome for me. I hope they come out with a nice color.
@@n.h2786 by keeping its weight I think it only comes in Raw titanium☺️ But I could be wrong😌
Don’t forget if ever you decide to get one, replacement parts should be life for like in order to keep the weight also. Meaning they are slightly more expensive than the norm😄
Well done
Whilst the seat post is a clever bit of engineering I’m just wondering what steps have been taken to stop galvanic corrosion between these two materials?
I hadn't thought of that! I know it'll have a plastic sleeve like all the brompton's... perhaps they make it full length instead of just the clamping area?
The steel armoring would have to be stainless regardless, and probably coated or nitride case-hardened.
@@jcphenry very interesting! They did state it is stainless
@@jcphenry possibly be nice to know how they solved this
Congratulations!
Nicely done.
Just started?????
Still hasn't got enough gears though. Not everywhere is as flat as London.
갬성 넘 좋다. 근데 제대로좀 만들자! 리어샥 중앙정렬도 안 되게 만들고는 무슨 명품.
It's so sentimental. But let's make Brompton Perfect. What luxury brand do you mean you can't even make the rear frame bent? FOCUS ON QUALITY PLEASE.
“The only thing we did not chance was the breaking system.” Which is the only thing I really wish they would change. I would love to ride a disc break Brompton equipped with through axels for ease of service.
If you really feel strongly about the brakes, do what I did: put (a considerable amount of) money aside and send your bike to Kinetics in Glasgow. I now have Hope hydraulic disc brakes front and rear on my Brom.
Tbf, a disc brake anything would weigh more.
Too many flashing lights on the video
I wantsss it precious!!!
Haha, I know how you feel, it's so sleek. If James Bond needed to commute to MI6, this is what he'd use 🕶 #secretagent
Blank sheet of paper? Really?
びっくりした〜
日本でも販売してよね〜
これなら駅の階段でも持ち歩けそうだ。
(Google translate to English)
If this is the case, you can carry it around on the stairs of the station.
A lot of people carry their sub 11-12kg already on stairs and station so this weight savings will be very extra handy😀
Finally 🙃
the design and shape are obviously deviating from the classic brompton. Hopefully it really is lightweight out of the box.. And might be good if we can modify the parts to make it even lighter like 6kg.
A dream commuting device to carry inside public transport. I think ergonomy and pbeing portable should be put into consideration as well to make sure this product is very useful.
A few more ££££/$$$$ on top could save you even more I’m pretty sure on what’s available on the market right now😀
It's already got carbon fiber cranks and front fork... I can't see where anyone is gong to save even a decent fraction of a kilo off this without going high end carbon wheels.
@@NoZenith You’ll be surprised, will wait once one will get hold of one and start weighing each individual parts because they will always source for a much lighter ones. But that’s crazy to think now that you have to spend another few thousands on top of what you already paid for🙁 The only question in there is if it is still durable and comfortable for daily ride compared to the stock.
My guess by the end of the year someone will have a 6.5 to 7kg T line.
why 50/12T for this? my steel single speed is 54/12T, this T Line One should be 54/11T
Seem like they will be offering a 58t chainring at some point. I suspect that people will start fiddling with alternative sized sprockets fairly quickly too. There is already some experimenting on the P Line cassette stack.
It's great to see that Brompton has finally taken a decisive step to reduce the weight of this otherwise outstanding product instead of repeating an annual cosmetic exercise that never dealt with the real issue. Disc brakes will make Brompton enthusiasts even happier! By the way, Brompton should consider offering prospective customers models on a progressive weight reduction scale in proportion to their respective prices; for example, descending from the new high-end T Line would be: (1) Steel stem with Titanium frame, fork & rear triangle; (2) Steel frame with titanium stem, fork & rear triangle; (3) Steel frame & stem with Titanium fork and rear triangle (= former Superlight), etc., etc. This would make the new generation Brompton more attainable by a wider spectrum of customers.
These things will be like hen’s teeth - despite costing a fortune they will keep numbers low to maintain exclusivity and hence demand. Your only chance will be to buy second hand where the price will be marked up to over £5500 or more. I have a 2014 m3 in orange so I do like Bromptons.
Indeed, like the Chpt3. Looks great, but one gets the impression of an arrogant company taking the rise out if its customers.
I doubt they will make £5.5k or over
They are much more than a standard machine
I may sell mine 2nd hand when I am bored, I'm not going to use it for commuting and will only market it to LBC members based locally
I got one already weighs 7 kilos with carbon wheels
nice.. it always bothered me that the bromptons weighed so much more than my regular bikes
Great engineering feat! But too expensive for the most of us. How about a more affordable option from aluminium, Shimano Nexus/Alfine 8 speed gearhub, belt drive, integrated ligthts, cables, lock, disc brakes. In short: it unfolds as quickly as a classic Brompton, with updates tech, and a sleek, uncluttered look when unfolded.
They hold patents on most of their designs so will be unlikely to change components to other brands where there would be little profit. Aluminium has never been an option as it doesn’t have as good life long mechanical properties as steel - especially at the joints where there is possibility for failure from cracking. As for internal wiring - easier said than done when folding. They need room to ‘stretch’ which would be inhibited by routing through the frame. Basically- they have already considered the options you have mentioned.
The look on the face when it lightens the wallet
Original Bickerton folder was a very good bike and very light.
👍🏻
with that price can get a helix bike
Oh! My! God! Shut up and take my money!!!!!
Looks cool, but I bet it won’t squirm under me at speed like my 1970’s Bickerton?
I’ll stick to the spaghetti framed 5 speed 👍
😂
Honestly? Great job 👍
How much is it 🤔🤔🤔😏
Nearly 5000
Gulp!
Your T line bolts and nuts aren’t titanium… they rust..
if you speak to our customer service team they'll be able to look into this for you
@@bromptonbicycle they will tell me to replace them to titanium bolts and nuts.. $$$$ 🙃
I really wish a carbon fibre Brompton
massive disconnect between the wording and the actual product : nothing changed in the concept... an the end is absolutely the illustration of ego in action "my vision of the product". 101 wrong comms. get help.
I've been riding this bike for about a month ruclips.net/user/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.