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@@jaymoney5679 Your question is the best one so far lol, do you think you be able to find the 2nd or 3rd wall, if some one is shooting at you? I don't care even if someone is the world champion shooter. Find a good gunsmith who can get rid of 2nd and 3rd wall, if your trigger has more than 1 wall.
New shooter here, I’ve struggled w accuracy. Ive watched videos of grip, trigger finger movements. Shooting low and left with a bunch of dry fire. But no improvement in the field. This video brought it all together for me. It was the missing link in the chain. Thanks guys.
"This technique will literally improve your accuracy within minutes if you put it into practice and you understand it. But, Rest assured that once someone learns this probably within a day most shooters will see marked improvement." Thank you for showing this to me. I am a novice shooter, just got my p365 a few days ago and my accuracy has been underwhelming for the first 250 rds. My group at 5 yds is about 1ft. Most falling low and left, yes you know why already, and I knew about this too but I still didn't "feel" like I was really pulling my trigger that hard but I was. I'm not a big strong guy, I don't have strong hands but this trigger is way heavier than all rifles and guns I've shot. Yesterday was night- today it was day. It suddenly clicked and my accuracy went from hitting a metal silhouette target 250 rds at 5yds only 50 to 60% to hitting near 100% on the next 80 rds and even pushing back to 20yds without difficulty then just to see if I could to 40yds only 50% there though still not bad. It works you can do it if I can.
I found it to be easier than people think or say it is. I'm not an expert by any means but it's really not that hard. Introducing many friends to shooting, I've noticed there are some who just have a natural ability and some who just don't get it.
Absolutely awesome techniques. Put some reps in today, and my accuracy improved remarkably. First 40 rounds, only 1 shot barely off target. Both of my pistols are dialed in. Thank you Tactical Hyve
I recently got back into shooting regularly and I was having difficulty with consistency and accuracy. A couple of weeks ago I attended a handgun class with a well-known instructor and my shooting was terrible. I did not get the help I needed to improve other than I need to work on it. The problem was recoil anticipation, which I discovered when the instructor, unknown to me while I was distracted, removed the bullets from my pistol, handed it to and told me to fire away. Of course, I was anticipating and causing the pistol to dip significantly. My actual shots were 6-8 inches low at 7 yards. No matter what I did, I couldn't fix it. Then last week I watched a video by another instructor who used a technique very similar to what is being described in this video here. The idea is that the distance from the first wall to the rear of the full trigger travel is "100%" of the distance the trigger will travel. The % of that distance needed to make the gun "go bang" and break the shot is somewhere between those two points. So, the idea is to begin a count "10%", then "20%" as you increase pressure on the trigger, and so on until the shot breaks. You can count slowly or faster, but what it did for me is to take my mind off the shot anticipation and recoil and focus it psychologically on the percentage count. Coupled with a changed grip, my shooting improved immediately, and from all distances. I also changed my description of trigger manipulation from "pull" or "squeeze" to "increase pressure". I was mentally connecting "pulling and squeezing" to all my fingers, rather than isolating my trigger finger.
Great video and articulation of the breakdown in the trigger dynamics. While I understood this process and tell anyone I’m showing how to shoot that the trigger manipulation is the most important part of accuracy I had never seen a breakdown like this! Outstanding 🎉
That makes sense because my instructor at the police Academy Wes repeatedly saying to the wall and I couldn’t understand the whole thing but now that makes sense and I hope that I will pass my shooting class this Thursday, the 24th . Thank you for explaining about it .
Doesn't matter if experienced or just a new gun owner. Continuing training even for expert shooters allows them to be sharp, smooth, and accurate. Revisiting the basics always helps with ensuring proper gun handling and techniques
Great information and explanation. Been shooting a little over two years and I learned this within my first few weeks of shooting. It’s incredibly valuable information. Thank you so much.
I was going to knock this video but after reading the comments I see how many people you help with information I felt was something you should have learned before picking up a gun. Thank you for the lesson in humility and keep doing what you do as we need more educated and responsible gun owners.
@@prayon193 I have a Gen 4 Glock 19 and put in a Timiney trigger which gives me minimal travel to the wall and very short travel to the bang. With the G19 I can hear and feel the break. I like the reliability of the Glock but they definitely need improved triggers. My shooting deaerates when I shoot friends guns and this video made me realize I have to be aware of indexing the wall when changing guns.
I’m an ER physician in Oregon, and I love to voluntarily teach Tactical Emergency Medicine (TEM), to Rural LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers). I love to work my TEM training into their scheduled Live Fire Practice. I’m looking forward to passing this tip on to others, as I’m always telling them “If your Excellent with your Weapons & Tactics, you will have less need for TEM, except to care for The Innocent, & any Evil that may still remain with Life. Dr. Hull, MD
Appreciate the tip! I’ve always been taught to take it to the wall but as you said, there is still a margin of error and that’s where I am as adding movement. Learning the prep the trigger based on Miles feedback was key for me.
Awesome video. New shooter here. I have read a lot and watched a lot of videos. I now know my pistols better than I thought. Getting to the last wall is such a great key.
The worst is them saying let it surprise you . I fully understand why that works but its a horrible way to teach because the person shooting doesnt understand why it works
That’s a great tip. I’m a very new shooter and i often go low right like many people. I’ve been working having a consistent grip which has helped. I’m eager to try this. Thank you!
I used this advice at the range today and after 20 rounds or so to warm up and get used to it with intermittent dry firing at the range I was able to consistently hit what I was aiming at! Which I haven’t been able to do consistently before
This is excellent advice. It has helped me considerably. Thanks. Sidebar: I think a better way to demonstrate what happens between the first wall and the break would be to mount a laser on your weapon then video the target while pulling the trigger through the wall to the break. The students will be able to see the laser on target at the first wall then watch as the laser dot moves off target between the first wall and the eventual shot. Then of course demonstrate how to keep or realign the laser on target at the final wall then at the break.
I just tried this with dry fire with my P80 (Glock internals). I never realized this before. I knew about the first wall and have used it with live fire for many years. But I have now discovered the THREE walls you described! It's subtle. But with dry fire repetition the three walls are definitely discernible! I'll be trying it with live fire next weekend. Thanks for the great video. PS... I'll try it with my factory Glocks, too.
Great demonstration. It does really pay to know how your trigger works. A lot of dry firing really really helps once you hit the wall go through the wall and the gun goes bang It’s a small distance and it’s something you have to train for. Great great video.
Thanks Myles. I have a new Walther PDP Compact and I just really now know where the wall is and where the bang is. I also think getting the Laser training program with either Laser Ammo or Mantis is a good idea. Why spend $.25 per round when you can dryfire to get comfortable with the gun.
thanks man, I appreciate your knowledge and willingness to pass it on. I'm former PD, but absolutely I need refreshers, updates and different perspective...so yeah man, great beneficial vids!
Good theory for improving accuracy for slow fire target shooting. It will not be easy trying to apply this when you need to fire quickly and also accurately, say in competition. However, this is another key fundamental point one should aware when trying to learn to fire your handgun fast and accurate. I guess if one has a strong and steady support hand, the movement caused by the "2nd wall" on the trigger pull can be greatly reduced or even eliminated.
This is the reason I was shooting low and left when I first started shooting. It drove me nuts because I knew I had the right grip and stance and trigger pull. Well I videoed myself one time and saw that I was indeed "willing" the bullet to leave the barrel, and in doing so I was moving the gun at the last moment. Fixed it by actively thinking about just pulling the trigger from the wall and just bracing for the recoil. Bullseye, all shots on target, and in quick succession once I practiced not letting the trigger all the way out just up to the wall then pull again.
Changed my stock M&P (0.1) trigger to an Apex with a 3.7 lb pull. The slack between the wall and FIRE is one Millimeter. So, for practical purposes there is nothing beyond the wall for me to deal with. (I love my Apex trigger set!!)
ANSWER: Prepping your trigger - take up the slack to the point where the hard resistance is encountered - i.e. hitting the wall. Get past any and all walls right up to the place and time when the trigger actually fires the bullet. It's before that time that the novice usually moves the pistol off target because s/he thought that the first wall was the actual firing point.
Awesome video! Works like magic! As an intermediate shooter I’ve found that it may take some time to develop the “feel” for different triggers. My G19 was relatively easy to learn. The P320 Legion will take more dry fire reps in order to program the subconscious. This chit begins to get difficult when you’re beyond the physical training and get into training the mind.
I really feel this will help correct my accuracy. I don’t have the opportunity to shoot much, but I feel like this was my exact issue. I had different results with different pistols, some I was right on target, some were extremely low. Thanks!
Looking for some great dry-fire training tools? Make sure to check out Laser Ammo. They are the world leader in laser firearms training and have a wide selection of tools to make you better:
tacticalhyve.com/recommends/laserammo/main/
My question to you is what about fast accurate shooting? Same technique of multiple walls or the first wall only?
Thanks again great video
@@jaymoney5679 Your question is the best one so far lol, do you think you be able to find the 2nd or 3rd wall, if some one is shooting at you? I don't care even if someone is the world champion shooter. Find a good gunsmith who can get rid of 2nd and 3rd wall, if your trigger has more than 1 wall.
What type of gun were you shooting with???
Thanks for sharing definitely going to check this out !!
New shooter here, I’ve struggled w accuracy. Ive watched videos of grip, trigger finger movements. Shooting low and left with a bunch of dry fire. But no improvement in the field. This video brought it all together for me. It was the missing link in the chain. Thanks guys.
So glad I found this, came back to this video just to say I’ve vastly improved my shot and grouping. Love your channel man, thank you!
Yes, know your gun and it's trigger's walls. Great video.
"This technique will literally improve your accuracy within minutes if you put it into practice and you understand it. But, Rest assured that once someone learns this probably within a day most shooters will see marked improvement." Thank you for showing this to me. I am a novice shooter, just got my p365 a few days ago and my accuracy has been underwhelming for the first 250 rds. My group at 5 yds is about 1ft. Most falling low and left, yes you know why already, and I knew about this too but I still didn't "feel" like I was really pulling my trigger that hard but I was. I'm not a big strong guy, I don't have strong hands but this trigger is way heavier than all rifles and guns I've shot. Yesterday was night- today it was day. It suddenly clicked and my accuracy went from hitting a metal silhouette target 250 rds at 5yds only 50 to 60% to hitting near 100% on the next 80 rds and even pushing back to 20yds without difficulty then just to see if I could to 40yds only 50% there though still not bad. It works you can do it if I can.
Good job. Keep it up. Shooting is much harder than people think.
I found it to be easier than people think or say it is. I'm not an expert by any means but it's really not that hard. Introducing many friends to shooting, I've noticed there are some who just have a natural ability and some who just don't get it.
@@Nitromessiah In other words - there is target shooting, point shopping, and combat shooting.
Your 1st mistake was buying a polymer frame & striker firearm...
Wait, 5 yards is 457 centimeters ? Am I calculating measures wrong ?
Great video, finaly some common sense. This is a must to be able to understand shootings fundamental principles.
A great explanation of the process.
Absolutely awesome techniques. Put some reps in today, and my accuracy improved remarkably. First 40 rounds, only 1 shot barely off target. Both of my pistols are dialed in. Thank you Tactical Hyve
Great Instruction Myles. I'm practicing this new technique. Thanks Man!!!
I've noticed this demo with my new gun, but it never 'clicked' in my head. Can't wait for my next session with my teacher. 🎉 Great video!!!!
Great tips, will try them out at the range tomorrow!
I recently got back into shooting regularly and I was having difficulty with consistency and accuracy. A couple of weeks ago I attended a handgun class with a well-known instructor and my shooting was terrible. I did not get the help I needed to improve other than I need to work on it. The problem was recoil anticipation, which I discovered when the instructor, unknown to me while I was distracted, removed the bullets from my pistol, handed it to and told me to fire away. Of course, I was anticipating and causing the pistol to dip significantly. My actual shots were 6-8 inches low at 7 yards. No matter what I did, I couldn't fix it.
Then last week I watched a video by another instructor who used a technique very similar to what is being described in this video here. The idea is that the distance from the first wall to the rear of the full trigger travel is "100%" of the distance the trigger will travel. The % of that distance needed to make the gun "go bang" and break the shot is somewhere between those two points. So, the idea is to begin a count "10%", then "20%" as you increase pressure on the trigger, and so on until the shot breaks. You can count slowly or faster, but what it did for me is to take my mind off the shot anticipation and recoil and focus it psychologically on the percentage count. Coupled with a changed grip, my shooting improved immediately, and from all distances. I also changed my description of trigger manipulation from "pull" or "squeeze" to "increase pressure". I was mentally connecting "pulling and squeezing" to all my fingers, rather than isolating my trigger finger.
Excellent tutorial. It helped a lot
Dude thank you and the whole channel for the free training
This emphasizes why dry fire practice is so important. 👍🏻
This was very helpful. Thank you, Myles!
Your videos are amazing! I am literally learning marksmanship from your videos!
Great information!! Thanks. I will be trying this for sure
Great video and articulation of the breakdown in the trigger dynamics. While I understood this process and tell anyone I’m showing how to shoot that the trigger manipulation is the most important part of accuracy I had never seen a breakdown like this! Outstanding 🎉
That makes sense because my instructor at the police Academy Wes repeatedly saying to the wall and I couldn’t understand the whole thing but now that makes sense and I hope that I will pass my shooting class this Thursday, the 24th . Thank you for explaining about it .
We called it indexing in the Army. Great advice.
This is great advice for a new shooter. I'm definitely going to practice this.
That made so much sense .. I definitely was letting the trigger all the way up .. thank you 🙏🏾
Breaking shooting down to a science! Very technical, thank you guys.
Great video. Makes so much sense. I look forward to trying this
Doesn't matter if experienced or just a new gun owner. Continuing training even for expert shooters allows them to be sharp, smooth, and accurate. Revisiting the basics always helps with ensuring proper gun handling and techniques
Great information and explanation. Been shooting a little over two years and I learned this within my first few weeks of shooting. It’s incredibly valuable information. Thank you so much.
I was going to knock this video but after reading the comments I see how many people you help with information I felt was something you should have learned before picking up a gun. Thank you for the lesson in humility and keep doing what you do as we need more educated and responsible gun owners.
Always great stuff Myles. Thanks
Awesome videos!!! Keep up the good work!! Very helpful!! I had to recently transfer from a P2000 .40 to a GLOCK 19 9MM
@@prayon193 I have a Gen 4 Glock 19 and put in a Timiney trigger which gives me minimal travel to the wall and very short travel to the bang. With the G19 I can hear and feel the break. I like the reliability of the Glock but they definitely need improved triggers. My shooting deaerates when I shoot friends guns and this video made me realize I have to be aware of indexing the wall when changing guns.
Thanks for this video. Usefull
Support hand grip and finding the right part of your trigger finger to pull with also are huge things to dial in on.
I’m an ER physician in Oregon, and I love to voluntarily teach Tactical Emergency Medicine (TEM), to Rural LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers). I love to work my TEM training into their scheduled Live Fire Practice. I’m looking forward to passing this tip on to others, as I’m always telling them “If your Excellent with your Weapons & Tactics, you will have less need for TEM, except to care for The Innocent, & any Evil that may still remain with Life.
Dr. Hull, MD
I learn so much from your videos
Appreciate the tip! I’ve always been taught to take it to the wall but as you said, there is still a margin of error and that’s where I am as adding movement. Learning the prep the trigger based on Miles feedback was key for me.
Awesome video. New shooter here. I have read a lot and watched a lot of videos. I now know my pistols better than I thought. Getting to the last wall is such a great key.
Thanks Myles I went to the range Tuesday and tried out this technique and my accuracy improved dramatically..👍🏿
Very interesting. I’m going to give this a try. Thank you for sharing your insights!
I was always taught to squeeze thru the wall but this makes so much more sense. 5 minutes of dry fire and I understand this more.
The worst is them saying let it surprise you . I fully understand why that works but its a horrible way to teach because the person shooting doesnt understand why it works
That’s a great tip. I’m a very new shooter and i often go low right like many people. I’ve been working having a consistent grip which has helped. I’m eager to try this. Thank you!
I was going low left
Amazing tutorial, know your weapon and know your wall. Take your time and a lot of practice and dried fire. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I used this advice at the range today and after 20 rounds or so to warm up and get used to it with intermittent dry firing at the range I was able to consistently hit what I was aiming at! Which I haven’t been able to do consistently before
Outstanding video instruction
Never thought about this. Have seen countless 'wall' videos but none 'past the wall'. Gonna give it a shot (no pun intended) and report back!
Very dope. Will be checking this out next time I'm at the range.
This is excellent advice. It has helped me considerably. Thanks.
Sidebar: I think a better way to demonstrate what happens between the first wall and the break would be to mount a laser on your weapon then video the target while pulling the trigger through the wall to the break. The students will be able to see the laser on target at the first wall then watch as the laser dot moves off target between the first wall and the eventual shot. Then of course demonstrate how to keep or realign the laser on target at the final wall then at the break.
Always putting out great content! I shot at that bay this last weekend and secretly was hoping to see the Tac hyve crew
I just tried this with dry fire with my P80 (Glock internals). I never realized this before. I knew about the first wall and have used it with live fire for many years. But I have now discovered the THREE walls you described! It's subtle. But with dry fire repetition the three walls are definitely discernible! I'll be trying it with live fire next weekend. Thanks for the great video.
PS... I'll try it with my factory Glocks, too.
Never noticed the 2nd wall on my new Glock until you pointed it out. Just getting the feel of it and know it will improve my accuracy. Thanks.
That is thee best instruction I have ever heard! Thank you!!
Thank You,really helped me!!!!!
Thank you soo much I always tought that the first wall is THE wall when it brakes the shot.
Your teaching method is great
Greats from Belgium 🇧🇪
Great info it reinforces my Marine Corp and Police training.
Great breakdown. Thanks for the instruction.
This was very helpful... Thanks...
Fantastic, very helpful, thanks
As a new owner of the canik mete mc9 this information is incredibly useful.
fantastic tutorial video helped me tremendously. thank you!
This is one of your best videos!
Thank you very much. You are a great instructor!
Good video. Dry Fire slowly so you can learn where the break is. Over and over and over again. Muscle memory in your finger!
Great demonstration. It does really pay to know how your trigger works. A lot of dry firing really really helps once you hit the wall go through the wall and the gun goes bang It’s a small distance and it’s something you have to train for. Great great video.
Thank you. I had never heard, or even thought about this!
Thank you Miles.
good elaboration and great advice 👍
I really enjoy watching your videos and will definitely be remembering this technique at the range.
Awesome job.
Very nice job!
Just realized this on my own the other day and made a world of difference.. I was all over the place.. still need to work on that 2nd wall
Great channel, great info.
Thanks Myles. I have a new Walther PDP Compact and I just really now know where the wall is and where the bang is. I also think getting the Laser training program with either Laser Ammo or Mantis is a good idea. Why spend $.25 per round when you can dryfire to get comfortable with the gun.
Great video! I’m struggling with this issue. Thanks for sharing this.
wow!!!!! this is amazing!!!!
thanks man, I appreciate your knowledge and willingness to pass it on. I'm former PD, but absolutely I need refreshers, updates and different perspective...so yeah man, great beneficial vids!
That's awesome. Thank you for your help
I improved leaps and bounds once I applied this knowledge.
Superb training!
This is brilliant
That was amazingly helpful thanks for posting this ~
Good theory for improving accuracy for slow fire target shooting. It will not be easy trying to apply this when you need to fire quickly and also accurately, say in competition. However, this is another key fundamental point one should aware when trying to learn to fire your handgun fast and accurate. I guess if one has a strong and steady support hand, the movement caused by the "2nd wall" on the trigger pull can be greatly reduced or even eliminated.
awsome video , tried it it worked ,thanks
Thanks!
Great video gunna practice this
This is the reason I was shooting low and left when I first started shooting. It drove me nuts because I knew I had the right grip and stance and trigger pull.
Well I videoed myself one time and saw that I was indeed "willing" the bullet to leave the barrel, and in doing so I was moving the gun at the last moment. Fixed it by actively thinking about just pulling the trigger from the wall and just bracing for the recoil. Bullseye, all shots on target, and in quick succession once I practiced not letting the trigger all the way out just up to the wall then pull again.
Great content.
This was really helpful! Thank you!
Thanks from Arizona USA 😁
Changed my stock M&P (0.1) trigger to an Apex with a 3.7 lb pull. The slack between the wall and FIRE is one Millimeter. So, for practical purposes there is nothing beyond the wall for me to deal with. (I love my Apex trigger set!!)
ANSWER: Prepping your trigger - take up the slack to the point where the hard resistance is encountered - i.e. hitting the wall.
Get past any and all walls right up to the place and time when the trigger actually fires the bullet. It's before that time that the novice usually moves the pistol off target because s/he thought that the first wall was the actual firing point.
this is some great advice, will be a new follower
As an instructor myself, I really like this explanation
Thanks for the Tips & Training to be a better shooter 👍
Great class Brother.
Thank you for good information
Awesome video! Works like magic!
As an intermediate shooter I’ve found that it may take some time to develop the “feel” for different triggers. My G19 was relatively easy to learn. The P320 Legion will take more dry fire reps in order to program the subconscious.
This chit begins to get difficult when you’re beyond the physical training and get into training the mind.
I'm going to start practicing this. I've done really good with a lazer bullet but then go to the range and get different results with live ammunition.
I really feel this will help correct my accuracy. I don’t have the opportunity to shoot much, but I feel like this was my exact issue. I had different results with different pistols, some I was right on target, some were extremely low. Thanks!
Very good info…know your gun and trigger and you will be better in no time.
Very good! Thank you.