There's no doubt the SKX will always be legendary, but at the inflated prices I've seen them sell for, there are much better deals out there. Curious to hear your thoughts.
I love both my 007J1 and 009J1. I wear them with Miltat Jubilee and Oyster as they are better bracelets than the Seiko one. Lucky for me, I bought a few of them prior to their discontinuation, so I paid the normal retail price at the time.
IMO this watch SHOULD be in your collection. It is an icon as much as a Rolex Submariner is. It has a long heritage and is historically important in the horological world. Everyone who’s into horology knows this watch. It’s that significant.
I bought a near mint pre-owned SKX last Christmas (for a VERY reasonable price). I was surprised that it was really quite a nice watch. Instead of ending production, Seiko really should have just put in the new movement and called it a Gen 2 SKX.
I bought an SKX because of two words - DIVER'S 200m. I wear divers; not dive style watches. The real thing is going to cost you more But 99% of the people out there won't know (or care about) the difference.
Really great overview. What makes the SKX so great for me is that it's one of the last dive watches designed for actual diving-and not fashion. At least for the price point. If you want all of the modern specs like sapphire, hacking, winding, cermamic bezel, etc. then the SKX won't do if for you. The SKX in 2022 is for the romantics. All of its imperfections are what appeal to me. I have zero intention of modding mine or upgrading the movement. I love it just the way it is because there's nothing like it anymore.
Just bought my SKX009 yesterday in perfect condition for $260. Absolutely love it. Yes there are "alternatives", but if you love the real thing, I recommend just getting the piece you love. Regardless of price.
Very true. As a new collector I love the look, but not paying the inflated prices right now. And as is mentioned in the video there are many technically better watches. So for my two cents I can't justify picking up a watch this dated. The Mini Turtle seems impossible to source outside Japan, so I'll probably go for the Prospex Padi Samurai as a diver.
@@Badabinger Any of the Prospex lineup makes a great alternative. I see the Mini Turtle in stock from various Amazon sellers from time to time. Been thinking about picking up a King Turtle myself!
@@Badabinger I can understand that. I’ve been seriously collecting for ten years now. In the early days, I spent a lot of time researching to get the best possible value for my money. Now that I’m deep into the hobby, I have plenty of spec across my collection and I recently re-bought an SKX I’d previously sold purely for posterity. I’ve had most of the more common SKX derivatives over the years. it’s a reminder of simpler times. As an aside, I can understand why people want a hand-winding movement, but I’m not really sure what all the fuss it about hacking seconds. I have a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms that has a high horology movement, keeps to within less than +1 SPD but doesn’t hack. I’ve never given it a thought. One complication I have come to enjoy recently is a power reserve indicator - brilliant! but again, I’d never missed it until I bought a piece that had one.
You're really discussing a collectors item by now. SKX is obviously not the best technical choice for $300, but it's easily worth that money for its now iconic status, come on... Not to mention the pretty amazing design to this day. For me, aluminium bezel is a plus. It looks cool.
This video is more directed at the newcomer who isn't as aware of the SKX's status and still gets it suggested as a great starter watch, not for the collector who wants one because of its iconic status.
I have 3 skx. 007J &007K and a 009J. I have 2 sumo hulk spb103J Last Gen. I have a king samurai, King Turtle Dark Manta, Monster Penguin , Baby Tuna Urban Safari. A willard. A meh Kamasu 2 green sunburst. If you are looking for an skx please please get the real thing, you will start collecting trash trying to buy those recommended alternatives. If you are buying an skx in the first place, you are looking for its iconic status not the best specs. The sumo does pack the bang for the buck as it is cheap and is 6R35 with 70 hour power reserve. Kamasu 2 is not a dang close to the Skx it is a very big disrespect. The sumo hulk screams submariner and is beautiful perfect for all wrist sizes. Fits small wrist like me at 6 1/4 inch. The bezel on my kamasu 2 is really clunky. I feel like people want to score an skx and is trying to lower the prices nowadays and sell there alternatives 😂.Yesterday I bought 2 in a box skx with jubilee and a militat oyster straps and all my special editions and LE bow down to it like a Queen of watches next to 👑 rolex. No comparison. There is a reason it was a hit and even though 3 decades after is sought after . How could a mass produce watch increase in value after being made unlimitedly for almost 3 decades? It is icon how come? It was an icon because it was simply amazing. Rolex Submariner and the SKX are on same wavelength just on opposite spectrum in prices. In asian countries, you will find it selling at very low prices. It just a matter of preferences. Join FB groups such as Seiko 5 collectors etc. My goal is to complete all skx from 01-55.
People have to remember that the SKX was made in 1996 to 2021, and wasn't upgraded, many micro brands have appeared since then offering more for less, so comparing could be seen as unfair.
Sure, I agree. My 'warning' is more for new watch enthusiasts getting into the hobby who are suggested to buy an SKX still from various blogs and youtube channels.
I love my 007 and 009 both on the jingled jubilee bracelet. Paid $180 and $190 about 5 years ago. My collection now included a Rolex Explorer 1, Breitling Colt 41, Hamilton Khaki King, Tissot Visodate, and a 20 year old Seiko quartz Chronograph. I’ve also sold 5 watches. I will continue to buy and sell out of my collection but it’s my SKXs that will always remain a core part of my collection. They will never leave my collection.
All pricing is based on market demand. There are people who will point out that certain makes and models of cars are overpriced yet the prices stay relatively fixed and people continue to buy them at those prices despite all the maintenance problems that may come with those luxury cars. I purchased my SKX for around $200 and while I didn't specifically buy it as an investment, I am pleased that it has appreciated in value from when I bought it. For me, it has turned out to be a wise purchasing decision. So when I hear people say that it's overpriced, my only response is, "Don't buy a Seiko SKX. It sounds like it's not for you." There is an entire world of Casio G-Shock or Timex Ironman watches out there that are priced exceedingly well (less than $60) for what you're getting. Any of those watches would give you reliable and accurate timekeeping, WAY more accurate than any mechanical analog watch. But if you like the Seiko SKX (or any other watch for that matter), go out there and BUY IT! Don't let ANYONE tell you what you should or shouldn't do. If you like it, go get it.
I honestly believe that the only thing the SKX had of impressive was the diver certification, which is of dubious value for most people (and there's nothing wrong in that). Not saying that they were bad picks, but back then and specially nowadays there were always more attainable and variable alternatives, like the Orient trio Kamasu-Mako-Ray and some Citizens - not to mention Seiko SRPD themselves, of course.
The ISO certification is definitely one of the major unique checkboxes the watch ticked off. And you're right, there weren't as plentiful options as there are now.
@@ChronometerCheck It's not the certification. It's certification at the price plus how awesome it looked. I have a Kamasu and it just doesn't look as awesome as the SKX.
I bought my SKX007K2 for $600 in March 2023. There are plenty of "better" watches for the money, but I purchased it purely for the heritage and fomo. Update: The watch arrived, it's definetly not worth $600, maybe $150 tops.
Telling people to STOP buying a particular watch because it's objectively worse than newer models in the same or cheaper price range is like telling you to drop the hobby because your phone tells you time infinitely more accurately than any analog watch. Any time function like a stopwatch or multiple time zones is also leagues better on your phone. It's also cheaper than most Swiss watches........ It's also like telling people to not buy the Paul Newman Daytona because there are thousands of watches that are objectively better and cost a fraction of the price.... This is a romantic hobby. You should know that by now. Shame on you! lol. The SKX is an icon and has far more heritage than any of the models that you referenced. This is like half the reason some of us are in the hobby (romanticism, nostalgia, the cult following it had because of what it accomplished for its time at the price range it did so, etc). It's also ISO certified (people will debate ISO certification, but again, they're missing the point of the extra lengths Seiko went through just to get it certified) and Seiko is no longer making any of their Seiko 5 models certified. The Seiko 5s embarrassingly don't even have a screw down crown or a lumed pip. Are they really dive watches? 🤔The non-screw down crown contributed to the WR being dropped from 200m to 100m. Not a big deal but we should be getting upgrades, not downgrades? Anyway, There's far more to the story than just, "hey don't buy this, buy this instead because it's newer and cheaper".
Yes, I completely hear you. I've stated previously that IF you're aware of the advantages/disadvantages, AND the other alternatives out there, AND still want to buy one, feel free. If you were already aware of all of the above, this video wasn't directed at you. There are people who are just coming into the hobby, reading a bunch of old posts on forums about how the SKX is the best entry-level watch, and aren't yet aware of why, or the alternatives.
Was lucky enough to get a beand new SKX yesterday at the mall here in the Philippines for around $380. Might sound steep but unfortunately the Kamasu here sells at around $490.
Sorry the SKX for me. I have a mint original and like you have a homage with the 007 dial and has all the upgrades for my beater watch i put on various nato straps.
I love the SKX. My first is a 013, the midsize, and I keep it as it is because it's perfect. I also build from broken 007s a SKX version of the turtle PADI and another one of the blue lagoon. Because the turtle is too big for me. The amount of modding possibilities, the quality of the case, the great OEM seiko dials available, make this watch a must have if you want a custom made watch with quality parts in a branded case.
I will never understand why Seiko discontinued the SKX, instead of just banging a new movement in it 🤷🏻♂️ I personally don’t care about sapphire but a 4r36 or NH35 movement in the SKX would be perfect.
I have an skx009 bought in the year 2010 and it is still.alive today. I wanted to buy the 007 after 14 years but instead of buying an overpriced used SKX i just bought a new Seiko Monsters save the penguin instead. Maybe if i will.have excess money mighg buy an skx007 but buying an overpriced used skx is a no for me. A reasonale priced skx i might say yes, but no to over priced skx.
Great alternatives? Plenty of them. Among mechs? Definitely Kamasu. Or pretty much anything else with WR200 on the Orient's F6 platform, not even to mention F7 or F8... Among quartz? Definitely Casios like MDV series (excluding MDV-10, of course) or any analogue/ana-digi G-Shocks (all with WR200) and Citizens like Promaster Eco-drive series. As someone who used to wear a 7S26-based Seiko some time ago, I don't quite get why stand all its inconveniences, let alone overpay for them.
I agree with this video, the whole point of the skx was to be an “affordable” Diver. If it no longer sits in this category due to Market inflation then it defeats the point. if you are entering the Hobby I’d point you directly at a Islander an affordable “diver” that has current modern standard specs. If you are a die hard Seiko collector then this doesn’t apply to you.
Listen the thing is can you get an ICONIC watch for a lower price then the skx? No you can't. If you want to tick off boxes on a check list , write some code for AI to do it ... Who needs hacking anyways??
Casio F91w! Hahaha, jk, you're right. Ironically, most of the other 'iconic' watches you can get for around the same price are also from Seiko (Turtle, etc.).
My buddy really wants a real SKX013 for his first watch. He won't accept alternatives because his grandfather wore a Seiko watch. He was about to lay down $1000 for one! I said, you can if you want but wait for a better deal bro! I think right now, you need to spend $450 for a good example. Crazy...
The Turtle is the real Seiko alternative. Kamasu is also brilliant value for money. Islander gives Prospex quality for Seiko 5 prices. Citizen also offer excellent entry level divers both automatic and Eco Drive. Nice objective review.
Seiko 5 Sports srpd line are all with skx cases with better movements and numerous design. Those are the alternative of Skx! Don't mention that unused , irrelevant 200 m water resistance in Skx...nobody diving with it!
Discovered the skx007 when I saw it on a mans wrist a while back. I fell in love instantly with the look, and couldn’t find one with the same character and design that I like. Yes, other seiko divers resemble it in design, but there’s something instantly attractive about the skx to me. Been looking into other watches to see what else I’m interested in now, and I don’t like much other than the skx I have now. Worth it to me, but definitely understand if there are others you’d prefer for the money. For me, it was the best option even at that price (350)
@@via8029 I feel you! I’ve looked at all the better options, and still just come back to it. Not saying the other watches aren’t cool and great, but there’s something so classic about the design and function. Still good specs nowadays but just not everything we’d look for today
Got my SKX007 for $250 full box/papers in like-new condition. Put it on an Uncle Seiko rubber strap and it's been my daily ever since. I love it! Would I like applied indices, a more detailed dial, and better movement? YES, but I love the SKX because of its flaws/nuances. Just a cool tool watch for the price. Just took it out into the ocean around Mexico and it's been great! Shower with it after a beach/snorkeling day and it's ready for the next day.
@@F57g2 Keep scouring forums like r/watchexchange and ebay (though be cautious of the latter, only buy from reputable sellers - lots of frankenwatches)
LOL, SKX’s are selling for an average of $750.00 on Amazon. Discounted, what are you talking about?? I have seen SKX’s as high as $1000 on rubber straps
the 5 just has an ugly dial, for me its the squigle under the logo, its clashing so hard with the font itself, then the silly italic automatic at the bottom wtf is that. No screw down crown???? what??? how much could that have saved...
I have a SKX009K and just recently purchased a new old stock SKX011J1 for a great price off of creation watches . My opinion yes there are better options as far as value or more affordable price but honestly nothing replaces the SKX.
Just bought a brand new SKX007K2 for $360 USD in 2023. No regrets, and never leaving the collection. Sure, there are better spec Seiko's in other brands for that money. But, they don't have the looks nor heritage of the 007. 007 prices are only going in one direction.
Very pleased I ran across your video. I recently (late last year) got my fathers Seiko 6309-729B and found out how rare it was especially having the very uncommon Japan dial text and the Luke works like new! Pretty amazing.
SKX is a iconic watch, when you are wearing a SKX, people know it is a SKX (yup we would know) and, they are the type of watches you will hand down to your friends and family, in short they are one of the toughest watch out there regardless of their price, as long as Seiko is the ones making them. I daily drive a 2023 Black on Black Seiko LX Spring Drive diver, my new LX diver have the looks of the SKX, my LX diver will never get constructed without the SKX, when your a icon, you are timeless. I finally found a Seiko diver with a Spring Drive movement and, they are the most accurate watch on the market today, I trust Seiko, Seiko listens to its customers, Seiko added the Spring Drive in our watches, best move ever. Seiko means the house of success.
For the skx013 watch collectors will still buy it because there is no other seiko with 38mm diver's watch only the skx013 so Collectors will still buy this skx013 even if the price go up 800$ to 1,000$ bnew in 2023...
Dont listen to this if you really want an SKX. I bought an Orient Ray because it was allegedly better than the SKX. I hated it right out of the box and spent hundreds of dollars modding it just to be able to tolerate it. A few weeks later I ended up selling it and getting an SKX anyways.
I love my skx007 and skx031 for the looks and not the iso certification. My dad sold both of them to me for a very cheap price since they weren't working and needed some restoration. Thankfully I have a friend watchmaker that helped me made the watch work again and get some replacement bezel inserts. I did the cleaning and scratch removal of the cases making them look new again. The dials and hands were in perfect condition so I only needed to fix the exterior.
@@ChronometerCheck Project watches are fun. I'm tempted to mod the slx031 into a tudor blackbay since the case and height looks almost the same except for the crown guards. But I may try to find another skx031 for that mod.
The options you presented are expensive, that one would think of just buying jacked-up SKX price. Well, FYI, chinese brands such as steeldive and heimdallr offers SKX clones using NH35, saphire glass and cermaic bezel for around $150. Btw, the real contender of the SKX has always been the Citizen NY series, which is still in production today
I have a Skx 009 since 2018. I wanted another diver, so I looked at the SRP775 or SRP777. With a 45mm case, they were too large for my wrist. Since I’m not a diver, I got myself an Seiko 5 SRPD55 and I wear it almost everyday since 2021.
The 5KX with the movement I'd adjust at least a couple times a week I don't mid much its not screw down, I just wish they would give it a proper bezzle with a lume pip, as I do use it at night
I bought mine brand new in May 2018. I’ve worn the thing like crazy. I got mine off eBay for $166 at the time. I haven’t kept up with watches too much over the years since buying my seiko, but I went back to see if I could get a nice jubilee bracelet for it and come to find out… they were discontinued in 2019! In all honesty, I would buy one still to this day at the inflated price. It would have to be brand new and come with a jubilee band, but I would pay $300 for it. It’s kept time so well over the years and it’s a conversation piece almost any time I wear it out in public.
I have an SKX and then I bought the new Turtle they came out with, the Turtle gets all my wrist time these days. You can pick up these for less than an SKX and it blows them away on every level
Broooooo the skx is what made me and a million others fall in love with the hobby! I just started my watch obsession about 2yrs ago. Newbies don’t let ‘em fool you, go get yourself a real watch: SKX!
I feel you, it did the same for me! It was one of my first mechanical watches ever. But have you seen how much they are selling for these days? Lol. Sometimes over $700. It's nuts!
I bought my skx009K a couple years back for less than $200. I'd be happier with a J and maybe a NH36 movement swap (still might do that) but it's one of the prettiest watch I've ever purchased. My next buy will be a Seiko GMT.
When you can get a MIDO and SKX at the same price point and the SKX has it's cult following originally for its high specs and a low price. Today, when the SKX is a lowest possible spec. with a highly inflated price, it just seems pretty silly when you look at it objectively for a second...
I am honestly thinking of selling it. Disclaimer: it doesn't seem to be fully water-resistant, would take it for a pressure test if you're planning on swimming with it. Feel free to message me on IG: instagram.com/chronometercheck/
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There's no doubt the SKX will always be legendary, but at the inflated prices I've seen them sell for, there are much better deals out there. Curious to hear your thoughts.
Nah I agree with you 100%
@@adeebsattar I agree with you agreeing with me
Islander and Spinnaker make a nice watches
The SKX023 is 38mm and lays better on the wrist than the 013. Finding a good example can be a little spendy though.
@@c.w.9615 Very cool model!
I have done almost 50 dives with my SKX as my backup to my Dive Computer and it has not failed me yet. I will treasure my 009 and 007 till the end.
I love both my 007J1 and 009J1. I wear them with Miltat Jubilee and Oyster as they are better bracelets than the Seiko one. Lucky for me, I bought a few of them prior to their discontinuation, so I paid the normal retail price at the time.
SKX is an icon. Forever. STOP
IMO this watch SHOULD be in your collection. It is an icon as much as a Rolex Submariner is. It has a long heritage and is historically important in the horological world. Everyone who’s into horology knows this watch. It’s that significant.
To be honest, an SKX selling for a few hundred dollars more is less ridiculous than Rolex’s and APs selling for $10K over list or $50K over list!
I bought a near mint pre-owned SKX last Christmas (for a VERY reasonable price). I was surprised that it was really quite a nice watch. Instead of ending production, Seiko really should have just put in the new movement and called it a Gen 2 SKX.
I also bought a near mint pre owned SKX last christmas for a VERY reasonable price. Wearing it right now! After owning a 5KX, it is just not the same.
Not the same in a good way, or a bad way?
@@KRW628 it lacks the charm!
Which one lacks the charm?? Sorry for the question? I debating on way overpriced skx or just get the 5sport
I bought an SKX because of two words - DIVER'S 200m. I wear divers; not dive style watches. The real thing is going to cost you more But 99% of the people out there won't know (or care about) the difference.
Really great overview. What makes the SKX so great for me is that it's one of the last dive watches designed for actual diving-and not fashion. At least for the price point. If you want all of the modern specs like sapphire, hacking, winding, cermamic bezel, etc. then the SKX won't do if for you.
The SKX in 2022 is for the romantics. All of its imperfections are what appeal to me. I have zero intention of modding mine or upgrading the movement. I love it just the way it is because there's nothing like it anymore.
I own the SKX009K and the SKX011J1 and I couldn’t agree with you more 👍🏻💯
Just bought my SKX009 yesterday in perfect condition for $260. Absolutely love it. Yes there are "alternatives", but if you love the real thing, I recommend just getting the piece you love. Regardless of price.
That's a steal! Enjoy.
In 2022, the SKX is a nostalgic purchase, rather than an objective one.
Very true. As a new collector I love the look, but not paying the inflated prices right now. And as is mentioned in the video there are many technically better watches. So for my two cents I can't justify picking up a watch this dated. The Mini Turtle seems impossible to source outside Japan, so I'll probably go for the Prospex Padi Samurai as a diver.
@@Badabinger Any of the Prospex lineup makes a great alternative. I see the Mini Turtle in stock from various Amazon sellers from time to time. Been thinking about picking up a King Turtle myself!
@@Badabinger I can understand that. I’ve been seriously collecting for ten years now. In the early days, I spent a lot of time researching to get the best possible value for my money. Now that I’m deep into the hobby, I have plenty of spec across my collection and I recently re-bought an SKX I’d previously sold purely for posterity. I’ve had most of the more common SKX derivatives over the years. it’s a reminder of simpler times.
As an aside, I can understand why people want a hand-winding movement, but I’m not really sure what all the fuss it about hacking seconds. I have a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms that has a high horology movement, keeps to within less than +1 SPD but doesn’t hack. I’ve never given it a thought.
One complication I have come to enjoy recently is a power reserve indicator - brilliant! but again, I’d never missed it until I bought a piece that had one.
Buy what you like, not what someone else thinks you should buy
That’s what i reckon
Alternative is no where near skx
You're really discussing a collectors item by now. SKX is obviously not the best technical choice for $300, but it's easily worth that money for its now iconic status, come on... Not to mention the pretty amazing design to this day. For me, aluminium bezel is a plus. It looks cool.
This video is more directed at the newcomer who isn't as aware of the SKX's status and still gets it suggested as a great starter watch, not for the collector who wants one because of its iconic status.
I dont like the newer Seiko "S" logo...
Yeah, it seems to be very polarizing
I have 3 skx. 007J &007K and a 009J. I have 2 sumo hulk spb103J Last Gen. I have a king samurai, King Turtle Dark Manta, Monster Penguin , Baby Tuna Urban Safari. A willard. A meh Kamasu 2 green sunburst. If you are looking for an skx please please get the real thing, you will start collecting trash trying to buy those recommended alternatives. If you are buying an skx in the first place, you are looking for its iconic status not the best specs. The sumo does pack the bang for the buck as it is cheap and is 6R35 with 70 hour power reserve. Kamasu 2 is not a dang close to the Skx it is a very big disrespect. The sumo hulk screams submariner and is beautiful perfect for all wrist sizes. Fits small wrist like me at 6 1/4 inch. The bezel on my kamasu 2 is really clunky. I feel like people want to score an skx and is trying to lower the prices nowadays and sell there alternatives 😂.Yesterday I bought 2 in a box skx with jubilee and a militat oyster straps and all my special editions and LE bow down to it like a Queen of watches next to 👑 rolex. No comparison. There is a reason it was a hit and even though 3 decades after is sought after . How could a mass produce watch increase in value after being made unlimitedly for almost 3 decades? It is icon how come? It was an icon because it was simply amazing.
Rolex Submariner and the SKX are on same wavelength just on opposite spectrum in prices. In asian countries, you will find it selling at very low prices. It just a matter of preferences. Join FB groups such as Seiko 5 collectors etc. My goal is to complete all skx from 01-55.
People have to remember that the SKX was made in 1996 to 2021, and wasn't upgraded, many micro brands have appeared since then offering more for less, so comparing could be seen as unfair.
Sure, I agree. My 'warning' is more for new watch enthusiasts getting into the hobby who are suggested to buy an SKX still from various blogs and youtube channels.
Conclusion at the end of the video :"find yourself" an SKX, ok
I love my 007 and 009 both on the jingled jubilee bracelet. Paid $180 and $190 about 5 years ago. My collection now included a Rolex Explorer 1, Breitling Colt 41, Hamilton Khaki King, Tissot Visodate, and a 20 year old Seiko quartz Chronograph. I’ve also sold 5 watches. I will continue to buy and sell out of my collection but it’s my SKXs that will always remain a core part of my collection. They will never leave my collection.
That's how I feel about mine as well. Nice collection you've built up over the years!
What’s the difference btwn. The SKX 07 and 09 besides price ? And did you buy yours used for fro those prices?
Purchased new grey market. The 007 is black, the 009 is red/blue bezel with blue dial.
All pricing is based on market demand. There are people who will point out that certain makes and models of cars are overpriced yet the prices stay relatively fixed and people continue to buy them at those prices despite all the maintenance problems that may come with those luxury cars. I purchased my SKX for around $200 and while I didn't specifically buy it as an investment, I am pleased that it has appreciated in value from when I bought it. For me, it has turned out to be a wise purchasing decision. So when I hear people say that it's overpriced, my only response is, "Don't buy a Seiko SKX. It sounds like it's not for you." There is an entire world of Casio G-Shock or Timex Ironman watches out there that are priced exceedingly well (less than $60) for what you're getting. Any of those watches would give you reliable and accurate timekeeping, WAY more accurate than any mechanical analog watch. But if you like the Seiko SKX (or any other watch for that matter), go out there and BUY IT! Don't let ANYONE tell you what you should or shouldn't do. If you like it, go get it.
I honestly believe that the only thing the SKX had of impressive was the diver certification, which is of dubious value for most people (and there's nothing wrong in that). Not saying that they were bad picks, but back then and specially nowadays there were always more attainable and variable alternatives, like the Orient trio Kamasu-Mako-Ray and some Citizens - not to mention Seiko SRPD themselves, of course.
The ISO certification is definitely one of the major unique checkboxes the watch ticked off. And you're right, there weren't as plentiful options as there are now.
@@ChronometerCheck It's not the certification. It's certification at the price plus how awesome it looked. I have a Kamasu and it just doesn't look as awesome as the SKX.
Citizen ny 0040 you can get stil for 200 usd thats my pick.
@@MrDanijelho Great choice.
I think a 300$ SKX is a good deal, considering inflation.
The new Seiko 5 GMT's will be a great alternative.
That's true - can't wait. Batman for me, if I can get my hands on one.
I bought my SKX007K2 for $600 in March 2023. There are plenty of "better" watches for the money, but I purchased it purely for the heritage and fomo. Update: The watch arrived, it's definetly not worth $600, maybe $150 tops.
I know the SKX is discontinued, but man paying $600 is straight up robbery. An Orient would be so much more value for money.
I paid $360 new in May, 2023 for the same model. Definitely worth it.
But the SKX is unbeatable timepiece! It has its own charm!!
In 2023 SKX’s starting at $650 and up.
I have seen J1’s for $999
Telling people to STOP buying a particular watch because it's objectively worse than newer models in the same or cheaper price range is like telling you to drop the hobby because your phone tells you time infinitely more accurately than any analog watch. Any time function like a stopwatch or multiple time zones is also leagues better on your phone. It's also cheaper than most Swiss watches........ It's also like telling people to not buy the Paul Newman Daytona because there are thousands of watches that are objectively better and cost a fraction of the price.... This is a romantic hobby. You should know that by now. Shame on you! lol. The SKX is an icon and has far more heritage than any of the models that you referenced. This is like half the reason some of us are in the hobby (romanticism, nostalgia, the cult following it had because of what it accomplished for its time at the price range it did so, etc). It's also ISO certified (people will debate ISO certification, but again, they're missing the point of the extra lengths Seiko went through just to get it certified) and Seiko is no longer making any of their Seiko 5 models certified. The Seiko 5s embarrassingly don't even have a screw down crown or a lumed pip. Are they really dive watches? 🤔The non-screw down crown contributed to the WR being dropped from 200m to 100m. Not a big deal but we should be getting upgrades, not downgrades? Anyway, There's far more to the story than just, "hey don't buy this, buy this instead because it's newer and cheaper".
Yes, I completely hear you. I've stated previously that IF you're aware of the advantages/disadvantages, AND the other alternatives out there, AND still want to buy one, feel free. If you were already aware of all of the above, this video wasn't directed at you. There are people who are just coming into the hobby, reading a bunch of old posts on forums about how the SKX is the best entry-level watch, and aren't yet aware of why, or the alternatives.
skx is legendary
Bs you buy a seiko because it's practical. If you want heritage get an omega or rolex
Well sait! The newer seikos (post 2015ish) imo are way worse compared to ANYTHING prior to that … the 5kx is just a bad joke…
I'll just buy a Steeldive instead 😂
Was lucky enough to get a beand new SKX yesterday at the mall here in the Philippines for around $380. Might sound steep but unfortunately the Kamasu here sells at around $490.
You make sense but you do not know the law of scarcity. People want what they cannot get. This alone explains the SKX.
Long live the Seiko SKX. Get OG and don’t settle for the rest.
Sorry the SKX for me.
I have a mint original and like you have a homage with the 007 dial and has all the upgrades for my beater watch i put on various nato straps.
Kind of easy to stop buying a watch when it is discontinued and aftermarket prices are insane. 😂
Don't forget the Citizen Promaster. Also a great alternative option.
I love the SKX. My first is a 013, the midsize, and I keep it as it is because it's perfect. I also build from broken 007s a SKX version of the turtle PADI and another one of the blue lagoon. Because the turtle is too big for me. The amount of modding possibilities, the quality of the case, the great OEM seiko dials available, make this watch a must have if you want a custom made watch with quality parts in a branded case.
I got a mint 013 on the bracelet the other month. Cost me a fortune. I just need the 009 then il stop. Is that ok
I will never understand why Seiko discontinued the SKX, instead of just banging a new movement in it 🤷🏻♂️ I personally don’t care about sapphire but a 4r36 or NH35 movement in the SKX would be perfect.
Recently bought a brand new SKX013 for $230. At that price, even for an older watch, was still a no brainer for me lol
I have an skx009 bought in the year 2010 and it is still.alive today. I wanted to buy the 007 after 14 years but instead of buying an overpriced used SKX i just bought a new Seiko Monsters save the penguin instead. Maybe if i will.have excess money mighg buy an skx007 but buying an overpriced used skx is a no for me. A reasonale priced skx i might say yes, but no to over priced skx.
Great alternatives? Plenty of them.
Among mechs? Definitely Kamasu. Or pretty much anything else with WR200 on the Orient's F6 platform, not even to mention F7 or F8...
Among quartz? Definitely Casios like MDV series (excluding MDV-10, of course) or any analogue/ana-digi G-Shocks (all with WR200) and Citizens like Promaster Eco-drive series.
As someone who used to wear a 7S26-based Seiko some time ago, I don't quite get why stand all its inconveniences, let alone overpay for them.
I agree with this video, the whole point of the skx was to be an “affordable” Diver. If it no longer sits in this category due to Market inflation then it defeats the point. if you are entering the Hobby I’d point you directly at a Islander an affordable “diver” that has current modern standard specs. If you are a die hard Seiko collector then this doesn’t apply to you.
love my skx007...bought 20 years ago and still keep good time and look awesome.
Amazon ia awllinf rhw AKX 013 fora thousand bucks!
I got mine for $160 new in 2017. Skx009J1
Listen the thing is can you get an ICONIC watch for a lower price then the skx? No you can't. If you want to tick off boxes on a check list , write some code for AI to do it ... Who needs hacking anyways??
Casio F91w! Hahaha, jk, you're right. Ironically, most of the other 'iconic' watches you can get for around the same price are also from Seiko (Turtle, etc.).
@@ChronometerCheck totally agree with the F91 got one myself! Anyway you make valid points in your video as well
@@kewlger Thanks for watching!
People collect watches to have fun. Beside why buy expensive newer watch just to tell time
No way just bought a last produced Japan made Sk 009 from creation watches
Seiko is stupid for dropping the SKX. Stupid move. Bring it back!
Nah...
I rather buy Skx...
I do understand they are over price now...
I still use both my SKXs. Bought them 19 years ago.
For God sakes put the watches down. The video was unwatchable, too much shaking!
My buddy really wants a real SKX013 for his first watch. He won't accept alternatives because his grandfather wore a Seiko watch. He was about to lay down $1000 for one! I said, you can if you want but wait for a better deal bro! I think right now, you need to spend $450 for a good example. Crazy...
That is insane... There are so many other great Seiko watches out there he can get!
🤔They won’t fall in price that’s a certainty , only buy original condition watches .
The Turtle is the real Seiko alternative. Kamasu is also brilliant value for money. Islander gives Prospex quality for Seiko 5 prices. Citizen also offer excellent entry level divers both automatic and Eco Drive. Nice objective review.
I have been eyeing a Turtle - never owned one myself and I think it's finally time. Thank you, Alex.
I love my turtle srp773. I wear it more than any of my other watches
@@ChronometerCheck get it done! You won't regret it. Ultra comfortable.
@@W.Edwardovich They're absolutely unbeatable at the price. I've just picked up a Turtle STO for just over £300 and it's superb.
@@W.Edwardovich Do you find lack of AR coating to be trouble with reflections of the dial at all?
But they are a legit collectors item now within most everyone's budget
Seiko 5 Sports srpd line are all with skx cases with better movements and numerous design. Those are the alternative of Skx! Don't mention that unused , irrelevant 200 m water resistance in Skx...nobody diving with it!
Discovered the skx007 when I saw it on a mans wrist a while back. I fell in love instantly with the look, and couldn’t find one with the same character and design that I like. Yes, other seiko divers resemble it in design, but there’s something instantly attractive about the skx to me. Been looking into other watches to see what else I’m interested in now, and I don’t like much other than the skx I have now. Worth it to me, but definitely understand if there are others you’d prefer for the money. For me, it was the best option even at that price (350)
i got mine 2 years ago for 250usd. i could've bought an orient ray 2 for the price but the skx is just different.
@@via8029 I feel you! I’ve looked at all the better options, and still just come back to it. Not saying the other watches aren’t cool and great, but there’s something so classic about the design and function. Still good specs nowadays but just not everything we’d look for today
Totally understand. It has a definite look to it and that is it’s charm. IMO it is very classy because it is so simple and purely functional.
one day SKX will get a Spring Drive in them, just wait for it.
I have the SKX023...... Never been serviced - 25yrs - just cleaned regularly..... Gains about 2mins/week ?
Sounds about right
The SKX is more than the sum if it's parts. This video is nonsense.
Got my SKX007 for $250 full box/papers in like-new condition. Put it on an Uncle Seiko rubber strap and it's been my daily ever since. I love it! Would I like applied indices, a more detailed dial, and better movement? YES, but I love the SKX because of its flaws/nuances. Just a cool tool watch for the price. Just took it out into the ocean around Mexico and it's been great! Shower with it after a beach/snorkeling day and it's ready for the next day.
Skx031 and Skx033. You’re welcome.
But have you ever seen a better looking dive watch?
Picked up mint 007 few weeks ago for $180. So there are deals to be had. Accuracy has also been beyond impressive at +4 seconds/day.
That's a great deal. It is a great watch - enjoy it.
Wow that's a great price, where did you purchase it from please?
@@F57g2 : got it from a local seller on FB marketplace.
@@pavelk554 thanks I'm trying to source one also at a reasonable price like yours
@@F57g2 Keep scouring forums like r/watchexchange and ebay (though be cautious of the latter, only buy from reputable sellers - lots of frankenwatches)
Skx007 very good and great watch
LOL, SKX’s are selling for an average of $750.00 on Amazon. Discounted, what are you talking about??
I have seen SKX’s as high as $1000 on rubber straps
Discontinued, not discounted. Lol
No we will not stop buying the skx
I will be buying the Islander ones, including the titanium editions. Far better watch no matter tha price.
Agree
the 5 just has an ugly dial, for me its the squigle under the logo, its clashing so hard with the font itself, then the silly italic automatic at the bottom wtf is that. No screw down crown???? what??? how much could that have saved...
I completely understand, and you're definitely not the first I've heard that from
Hit the like button early in the video for the sole reason that I can relate to talking my wifes' ear off about watches 😂😂
Haha, "oh, that's great, honey....."
You talk too much
Lol. True
Buy it if we damn well want to.
I have a SKX009K and just recently purchased a new old stock SKX011J1 for a great price off of creation watches . My opinion yes there are better options as far as value or more affordable price but honestly nothing replaces the SKX.
Just bought a brand new SKX007K2 for $360 USD in 2023. No regrets, and never leaving the collection.
Sure, there are better spec Seiko's in other brands for that money. But, they don't have the looks nor heritage of the 007. 007 prices are only going in one direction.
Sieko is the best watch I ever own , love the samurai watch’s
I'm a bit of a Seikoholic myself, so can't disagree.
The Skx is just too legendary, a timeless beauty thats a must have in a watch collection
Very pleased I ran across your video. I recently (late last year) got my fathers Seiko 6309-729B and found out how rare it was especially having the very uncommon Japan dial text and the Luke works like new! Pretty amazing.
SKX is a iconic watch, when you are wearing a SKX, people know it is a SKX (yup we would know) and, they are the type of watches you will hand down to your friends and family, in short they are one of the toughest watch out there regardless of their price, as long as Seiko is the ones making them.
I daily drive a 2023 Black on Black Seiko LX Spring Drive diver, my new LX diver have the looks of the SKX, my LX diver will never get constructed without the SKX, when your a icon, you are timeless. I finally found a Seiko diver with a Spring Drive movement and, they are the most accurate watch on the market today, I trust Seiko, Seiko listens to its customers, Seiko added the Spring Drive in our watches, best move ever.
Seiko means the house of success.
For the skx013 watch collectors will still buy it because there is no other seiko with 38mm diver's watch only the skx013 so Collectors will still buy this skx013 even if the price go up 800$ to 1,000$ bnew in 2023...
Dont listen to this if you really want an SKX. I bought an Orient Ray because it was allegedly better than the SKX. I hated it right out of the box and spent hundreds of dollars modding it just to be able to tolerate it. A few weeks later I ended up selling it and getting an SKX anyways.
I love my skx007 and skx031 for the looks and not the iso certification. My dad sold both of them to me for a very cheap price since they weren't working and needed some restoration. Thankfully I have a friend watchmaker that helped me made the watch work again and get some replacement bezel inserts. I did the cleaning and scratch removal of the cases making them look new again. The dials and hands were in perfect condition so I only needed to fix the exterior.
That's awesome, sometimes you find a hidden gem that, with a bit of love, can be found at a bargain! Enjoy.
@@ChronometerCheck Project watches are fun. I'm tempted to mod the slx031 into a tudor blackbay since the case and height looks almost the same except for the crown guards. But I may try to find another skx031 for that mod.
The options you presented are expensive, that one would think of just buying jacked-up SKX price. Well, FYI, chinese brands such as steeldive and heimdallr offers SKX clones using NH35, saphire glass and cermaic bezel for around $150.
Btw, the real contender of the SKX has always been the Citizen NY series, which is still in production today
I have a Skx 009 since 2018. I wanted another diver, so I looked at the SRP775 or SRP777. With a 45mm case, they were too large for my wrist. Since I’m not a diver, I got myself an Seiko 5 SRPD55 and I wear it almost everyday since 2021.
If I were hell bent on the skx experience i would just buy an islander these days. Same case but all the right upgrades for less than an skx....
The 5KX with the movement I'd adjust at least a couple times a week I don't mid much its not screw down, I just wish they would give it a proper bezzle with a lume pip, as I do use it at night
I bought mine brand new in May 2018. I’ve worn the thing like crazy. I got mine off eBay for $166 at the time. I haven’t kept up with watches too much over the years since buying my seiko, but I went back to see if I could get a nice jubilee bracelet for it and come to find out… they were discontinued in 2019! In all honesty, I would buy one still to this day at the inflated price. It would have to be brand new and come with a jubilee band, but I would pay $300 for it. It’s kept time so well over the years and it’s a conversation piece almost any time I wear it out in public.
I have an SKX and then I bought the new Turtle they came out with, the Turtle gets all my wrist time these days. You can pick up these for less than an SKX and it blows them away on every level
Broooooo the skx is what made me and a million others fall in love with the hobby! I just started my watch obsession about 2yrs ago. Newbies don’t let ‘em fool you, go get yourself a real watch: SKX!
Real watch = omega/tudor/Longines and above
Tool beater = Chinese watch/seiko and above
I feel you, it did the same for me! It was one of my first mechanical watches ever. But have you seen how much they are selling for these days? Lol. Sometimes over $700. It's nuts!
I've been eyeballing that exact Kamasu for 6 months now. I'm guessing that by the time I decide to jump on it I'm sure I won't be able to find it.
I don't think you will regret it. PS I have a full review up for that as well.
@@ChronometerCheck i know I won't regret it. It's just the wifes blessing I'm waiting on.
@@RightTwoOwn Oh yeah, I feel you. Thankfully my girlfriend thinks all of my dive watches look nearly the same. :)
300 in nice condition is absolutley ok. Btw, didnt see a good alternative to an skx007 in this video 🤔
Nothing is going on!
Seiko is Seiko, period 😉
Hard to argue with that logic!
I have a 7 inch(ish) wrist. Which skx variant do you find wears better for you, the 007 or the 013?
I bought my skx009K a couple years back for less than $200. I'd be happier with a J and maybe a NH36 movement swap (still might do that) but it's one of the prettiest watch I've ever purchased. My next buy will be a Seiko GMT.
the 5kx strap, is that from strapcode ?
Just saw the Seiko skx013 going for over 900 usd
When you can get a MIDO and SKX at the same price point and the SKX has it's cult following originally for its high specs and a low price.
Today, when the SKX is a lowest possible spec. with a highly inflated price, it just seems pretty silly when you look at it objectively for a second...
Spot on. Many of the other options have way better specs for the same price. And some still have great heritage.
SKX007 & 009 cost about 1000-1100€ in Austria (new) and about 800-900€ used 😂 its crazy...
holy snap
If you want to sell that LIW SKX, LMK! I love that mod.
I just picked up an SRPD93 blue “5kx” at Costco for $180.
I am honestly thinking of selling it. Disclaimer: it doesn't seem to be fully water-resistant, would take it for a pressure test if you're planning on swimming with it. Feel free to message me on IG: instagram.com/chronometercheck/
I believe the turtle is the true successor to the SKX. Still ISO, great looks, and upgraded movement.
You're not wrong
I got my 013 for $189 new in 2018. It’s been such a great value and I absolutely love it.
Great pickup!
That faded bezel 🔥