Just bought a 2023 RMAX 4 and did a 110 mile break-in trail ride. I was surprised how comfortable it was and I didn't get fatigued. So far i love everything about it except cleaning it! Great rig.
I have owned a Can Am Commander, a Polaris General, and now a Yamaha Rmax. Thus far, after 1000 miles on the Rmax, the first two rigs aren’t in the same class as the Rmax! The 3 drive modes, the clutching, the smoother ride over rough terrain, not a lot of clanking and rattling like the other two, and the interior finish makes the Rmax my choice by a “Long Shot”! AND, I’m just getting started.👍
@@TheLakeHogg Doesn't take too much searching or video watching to understand why it's so good. But, because it seems you're either uninformed or lazy how about the following; 1.) Yamaha reliability. 2.) 10-year belt warranty. 3.) 108HP 4.) true lockers and no stupid viscolock or any garbage, no turf mode that will bust, etc. 5.) Excellent suspension right out of the box. 6.) D-mode switch for tuning how you ride. 7.) XT-R comes ready to go with a winch, tablet with maps, roof, square tire setup with Carnivores. 8.) Excellent interior space, with soft touch points and great overall materials. 9.) Easy accessible electric junk under the hood. 10.) Pre-wired accessory plugs. Should I keep going...?
I own a 2023 RZR 1k. First and last one I would buy. They touched on the rattles and clunks! Boy is that an understatement. It is not confidence inspiring. The power is great. Steering is great. After that it’s substandard. 22k for a new machine and it riddled with annoying little things. Stay away from anything Polaris, unless you want the weekend project of servicing EVERYTHING on it. Belts, hubs, bushings, electrical issues.
I've been a Yamaha owner since 87. Did my research before I bought my 1st sxs, I feel I made a great choice when I got my xtr. Definitely worth the wait.
You can take comfort knowing you genuinely did buy the best all around, heavy duty yet light on its feet, highly refined endlessly powerful UTV. There's nothing out there in it's class, 2 seater only the general comes close but it's built like highly over priced plastic junk that'll break/cook belts more effective than it'll ever make a belt last!!! Lol The 4 seater RMax only the kawa Teryx S comes close, and that's not even as capable as the RMax is...even if you removed 2 tires off the RMax it'd still be far superior to the teryx lol Hope you get years of use outta her and enjoy it. At the same exact time I am extremely sour, mad and disappointed with you and your new machine 😎 as I still haven't found an Rmax4 to call our own haha 👍
This is actually funny 🤣 you gotta look at the old stuff this new stuff is garbage from Polaris. Tech at one of the highest volume Polaris dealerships in the US. Currently have 2 machines I'm swapping engines in. Ones. 2011 ranger that has close to 8000 miles and the rancher never did a damn thing with it maintenance wise. The other is a 2022 ranger with like 1.6k miles as a rental gets regular "maintenance" from the rental company any it's about to have items 3rd motor in it. I'm sure most of it is user error but I laughed at this comment for sure.
I ride a 2021 RMAX2 XTR zero issues, nothing but a legit ride in all conditions, super comfortable and easy to operate systems, phenomenal visibility. I ride often and aggressively.
I bought a Polaris General XP 1000 Ultimate because of the 06 Polaris Outlaw that I bought from my cousin in 2008 (he bought it new). It needs new tires and a new seat, but the machine itself starts, drives and behaves like it did the first time I rode it in 06!
Watching your ride the things I noticed the most the Polaris sounded like everything underneath was coming apart, the other the Polaris driver was thrown around more. Thank you for letting us tag along
I have a 21 rmax limited just like in the video and I must say best machine for east coast riding have taken it 3x to Hatfield and mccoy trails and the turning radius is great for all the switchbacks.....now the adventure pro is worthless had none of the trails pre loaded for Hatfield or windrock Park....yamaha/Magellan needs to fix that. Hell pay me to map all the trails!!!!
Also have xtr rmax we took to Hatfield last week, and very disappointed in the gps. can you down load trail apps and use them with this unit? It’s seems so limited and almost useless other than recording your trails as you go. Has be more to unlock on this I hope. A back up camera software upgrade would be nice too.
@@davisexcavating7144 I have seen some people jailbreak them and get maps loaded onto it but I did a update on mine and it appears that some of the rockhouse trails are loaded onto the GPS now.
@@tyler87kelley oh nice thank you I’ll look into updating it! Honestly I’ve never had it out of machine yet to try update. Hopefully they cna keep adding updates to this tablet, just seems so limited for price.
love my General, nothing bad to say about Yamaha. General was just a better looking machine and we love ride command. we also like door handles on the outside of the doors. General is definitely quieter inside
I just bought a General XP Deluxe then put a Hunterworks clutch kit in it immediately. It has decent engine braking, and no belt slap with that done. The reasons I bought the General instead of the Rmax are simple. Every dealer around me had the Yamaha marked up $5000 over MSRP. The General has a larger aftermarket. Polaris is an American company. Some people don’t care about the latter, but I still do.
Paul l know what you're saying. I have both Yamaha and Polaris. The mark up isn't that great, but finding one can be a chore. I really like both and they are on my short list. I think the fit and finish on the R-max is above the General. I've had 2 Yamaha atvs and 2 Polaris atvs, both were good machines. In general I think the Yamaha was better built. The Polaris had great suspension,but the A-arm bushings didn't last long and overall maintenance needs were greater. I leaning towards the R-max. At least Yamaha has a footprint in the U.S. with the Newnan Ga. plant. They have over 2k workers and have built over 4 million units. I don't think you can go wrong with either of theses.
@@curtissmith8789 I’ve been keeping my eyes open for an Rmax2 or Rmax4. Right now the only one within reasonable distance is a used 21 Rmax4, and the seller is asking $33,000. The markup is just outrageous.
What state are you in? I know mark up differs from state to state, even within the state. I think dealership has a lot to do with it. Number of units moved can effect that too.
The RMAX makes the General look like a china made POS. Fit and finish is far superior and so is the look of the machine. Glad Yamaha knocked it out of the park with a Sport utility sxs
That Polaris sounded like an old International Pickup truck with a rattly tailgate coming down those rocks. The Yamaha was tight and all you could hear was the suspension working. Having said that, why not just buy a Jeep and drive it there and back home when you are done lol. I've never understood the allure of these cars for off road when you could get an ATV and have more fun. I mean you drive a car to where you're going to ride, unload another car and get in it and drive some more. I know they are fun but man the price of these things is nuts.
I own both. A 2021 rmax and two jeeps. The jeeps are great for bigger trails and move a little slower, but more comfort for sure. And if they break, it's hard to drive it home sometimes. Can be done though. The sxs is faster on the trails and can get in tighter spots and hit jumps. If it breaks, I can most likely get it to the trailer. We take the machine that fits the trails we plan to go on.
RMax is far superior to the General all around period. Polaris is fckn GARBAGE pure an simple. Oh you're really happy with you Polaris?! Oh it hasn't burned a belt/broke/tore apart/running well for 400+ Miles already well then wallah!!! Boom!! It just spontaneously caught on fire and you're extremely lucky you got you baby boy outta the machine just 2 seconds before!!! Yamaha you deserve a massive thumbs up 👍 straight up best machine made today and we all know how damn reliable your machines are. Everyone I know has owned atleast 1 Can Am and 1 Polaris that we all sold because they're city boy machines that'll leave your ass stranded even tho you have tools and spares it's always going to leave you screwed and getting towed home Yamaha. The old REAL Arctic Cats, Honda Kawasaki Suzuki are very well built extremely reliable machines. Arctic Cat being 100% American was King with big block power with massive full-sized American frame then wall street city boy Textron swooped in and bled them dry into the prune they are this very day.....a sad pathetic joke going no where! They destroyed the most exciting company (can am and Arctic Cat battling it out was legendary and led us to the point we're at this day
It's not the engine braking it's the fact that front drive is not engaged on the downhill allowing the rear tires to skid on steep hills, only the Pols with downhill decent (or whatever it's called) keeps the front drive engaged on the downhill.
I have owned both brands. They are both good. However, having had to rebuild a ranger 1000 clutch, I would go with the Yamaha. Yamaha fit and finish are superior. Yamaha handling and braking is also better. Yamaha duribility is legendary.
I bought a 2018 polaris sportsman 850 HO brand new. I will never buy another polaris product again. It is the clunckiest, squeakiest, rattliest bike I've ever owned. It constantly feels like its going to fall apart. You about need a hammer to shift gears and you have to get about 1500 rpm before the gear engages and lurches forward or back. The engine sounds like it has 100k miles on it brand new. The quality feels terrible and if you dare push the throttle the power is there but it feels like a gamble if the engine is going to stay intact. I personally would rate it lower than CF moto and probably lower than Coleman as well.
I think that's the clutch. I know my Polaris always makes that sound and my Yamaha never does. It's just normal Polaris noise, like it or not. It can be alarming at first, but once you get accustomed it's just background noise.
I made the decision a year ago to go with the general over the r-max. The main reasons I chose the general is Ride command, I hate the shoulder pads on the r maxx, and polaris aftermarket is above and beyond any other brand. I agree the fit and finish is probably better on the r max but I’m happy with the general so far
All I will say is Yamaha Rmax is quality. We havex3 as a family and would never buy a Polaris. Why? Our good friend we ride with over the years are constantly fixing little things and they get noisy and loose over the years. Just the quality in Yamaha we like.
I watched dirt trax tv on their RUclips channel about the RMax 4. I think they said that the general has more room, but the seats are better positioned in the rmax 4. Of course you also can't overlook the fact that while the rmax 4 may be better, the general 4 doesn't lose the cargo bed. I'm torn between the 2 cause I have kids and the cargo bed on the general 4 is a good option. I wish the rmax 4 had one
looking into buying the rmax xtr myself. they have one sitting right next to a general at a local dealer. looking at the 2 in the showroom it's really hard to see why the general is almost 3k more. if anything, I would say the yamaha is better build quality.
The rmax cab is to small for bigger people, i got the 2023 krx 1000 and it has plenty of cab room, that was my main concern when buying, and the krx just happens to be better than these 2, also more room than canam and pol
Just bought a 2023 RMAX 4 and did a 110 mile break-in trail ride. I was surprised how comfortable it was and I didn't get fatigued. So far i love everything about it except cleaning it! Great rig.
I have owned a Can Am Commander, a Polaris General, and now a Yamaha Rmax. Thus far, after 1000 miles on the Rmax, the first two rigs aren’t in the same class as the Rmax!
The 3 drive modes, the clutching, the smoother ride over rough terrain, not a lot of clanking and rattling like the other two, and the interior finish makes the Rmax my choice by a “Long Shot”!
AND, I’m just getting started.👍
Though by the sound of it, your opinion of the commander is based on the old model and not the new one introduced in 2021?
Yamaha fit and finish is light years ahead of Polaris and Can Am. I was blown away the first time I got in the Yamaha!
Love my RMAX XT-R, I've had it since October of 2020, nothing but smiles! Easily the best sport utility machine out there!
“Easily the best sporty utility machine out there!” Then followed this statement up with absolutely nothing to support his statement.
@@TheLakeHogg Doesn't take too much searching or video watching to understand why it's so good. But, because it seems you're either uninformed or lazy how about the following; 1.) Yamaha reliability. 2.) 10-year belt warranty. 3.) 108HP 4.) true lockers and no stupid viscolock or any garbage, no turf mode that will bust, etc. 5.) Excellent suspension right out of the box. 6.) D-mode switch for tuning how you ride. 7.) XT-R comes ready to go with a winch, tablet with maps, roof, square tire setup with Carnivores. 8.) Excellent interior space, with soft touch points and great overall materials. 9.) Easy accessible electric junk under the hood. 10.) Pre-wired accessory plugs. Should I keep going...?
Well now that TheLakeHogg has something to absolutely back that statement up with, he should fell better.
@@BarnStangz how many miles on yours? Just got a 2022
@@proficientmethod4540 I'd have to check to be sure, I like like 800 or so. It's been a good machine.
New rmax2 is the has the best fit and finish in the business!!!
I own a 2023 RZR 1k. First and last one I would buy. They touched on the rattles and clunks! Boy is that an understatement. It is not confidence inspiring. The power is great. Steering is great. After that it’s substandard. 22k for a new machine and it riddled with annoying little things. Stay away from anything Polaris, unless you want the weekend project of servicing EVERYTHING on it. Belts, hubs, bushings, electrical issues.
I've been a Yamaha owner since 87. Did my research before I bought my 1st sxs, I feel I made a great choice when I got my xtr. Definitely worth the wait.
You can take comfort knowing you genuinely did buy the best all around, heavy duty yet light on its feet, highly refined endlessly powerful UTV.
There's nothing out there in it's class, 2 seater only the general comes close but it's built like highly over priced plastic junk that'll break/cook belts more effective than it'll ever make a belt last!!! Lol
The 4 seater RMax only the kawa Teryx S comes close, and that's not even as capable as the RMax is...even if you removed 2 tires off the RMax it'd still be far superior to the teryx lol
Hope you get years of use outta her and enjoy it. At the same exact time I am extremely sour, mad and disappointed with you and your new machine 😎 as I still haven't found an Rmax4 to call our own haha
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And the R-max will still be running in 2 years!!😁
This is actually funny 🤣 you gotta look at the old stuff this new stuff is garbage from Polaris. Tech at one of the highest volume Polaris dealerships in the US. Currently have 2 machines I'm swapping engines in. Ones. 2011 ranger that has close to 8000 miles and the rancher never did a damn thing with it maintenance wise. The other is a 2022 ranger with like 1.6k miles as a rental gets regular "maintenance" from the rental company any it's about to have items 3rd motor in it. I'm sure most of it is user error but I laughed at this comment for sure.
Probably after 20 years.
Sadly the Yamaha blew up shortly after this video.😢
@@daddywags88 where did you read that? or you just ignorant?
Correct
I ride a 2021 RMAX2 XTR zero issues, nothing but a legit ride in all conditions, super comfortable and easy to operate systems, phenomenal visibility. I ride often and aggressively.
800 trouble free miles on my 2021 RMAX 2. One beast of a machine!
1400 miles for me, and I’ve not been easy on the machine since I purchased it!
I bought a Polaris General XP 1000 Ultimate because of the 06 Polaris Outlaw that I bought from my cousin in 2008 (he bought it new). It needs new tires and a new seat, but the machine itself starts, drives and behaves like it did the first time I rode it in 06!
Watching your ride the things I noticed the most the Polaris sounded like everything underneath was coming apart, the other the Polaris driver was thrown around more. Thank you for letting us tag along
You can hear all the drive line lash/slop in the General everytime it passes the camera.
I have a 21 rmax limited just like in the video and I must say best machine for east coast riding have taken it 3x to Hatfield and mccoy trails and the turning radius is great for all the switchbacks.....now the adventure pro is worthless had none of the trails pre loaded for Hatfield or windrock Park....yamaha/Magellan needs to fix that. Hell pay me to map all the trails!!!!
Also have xtr rmax we took to Hatfield last week, and very disappointed in the gps. can you down load trail apps and use them with this unit? It’s seems so limited and almost useless other than recording your trails as you go. Has be more to unlock on this I hope. A back up camera software upgrade would be nice too.
@@davisexcavating7144 I have seen some people jailbreak them and get maps loaded onto it but I did a update on mine and it appears that some of the rockhouse trails are loaded onto the GPS now.
@@tyler87kelley oh nice thank you I’ll look into updating it! Honestly I’ve never had it out of machine yet to try update. Hopefully they cna keep adding updates to this tablet, just seems so limited for price.
Why not Add the Gen2 CanAm Commander XTP to the shootout?
I just purchased a 2024 rmax xtr. Looks like i made the right decision.
love my General, nothing bad to say about Yamaha. General was just a better looking machine and we love ride command. we also like door handles on the outside of the doors. General is definitely quieter inside
Now do the RMAX4 vs the General4 on the same trail, or better yet, on the Rubicon Trail ;)
Yeah and then do that same ride with a bed full of gear oh wait….
@@mingomane1 ruclips.net/video/b1nr0vW_nD0/видео.html
@@mingomane1 w bed extender rmax has plenty of room
cooler full of beer and tools to fix the general when it breaks down
I just bought a General XP Deluxe then put a Hunterworks clutch kit in it immediately. It has decent engine braking, and no belt slap with that done. The reasons I bought the General instead of the Rmax are simple. Every dealer around me had the Yamaha marked up $5000 over MSRP. The General has a larger aftermarket. Polaris is an American company. Some people don’t care about the latter, but I still do.
Paul l know what you're saying. I have both Yamaha and Polaris. The mark up isn't that great, but finding one can be a chore. I really like both and they are on my short list. I think the fit and finish on the R-max is above the General. I've had 2 Yamaha atvs and 2 Polaris atvs, both were good machines. In general I think the Yamaha was better built. The Polaris had great suspension,but the A-arm bushings didn't last long and overall maintenance needs were greater. I leaning towards the R-max. At least Yamaha has a footprint in the U.S. with the Newnan Ga. plant. They have over 2k workers and have built over 4 million units. I don't think you can go wrong with either of theses.
@@curtissmith8789 I’ve been keeping my eyes open for an Rmax2 or Rmax4. Right now the only one within reasonable distance is a used 21 Rmax4, and the seller is asking $33,000. The markup is just outrageous.
What state are you in? I know mark up differs from state to state, even within the state. I think dealership has a lot to do with it. Number of units moved can effect that too.
The Rmax is made in Newnan, Georgia....
too bad everything in the general is made in Mexico or china.
The RMAX makes the General look like a china made POS. Fit and finish is far superior and so is the look of the machine. Glad Yamaha knocked it out of the park with a Sport utility sxs
That Polaris sounded like an old International Pickup truck with a rattly tailgate coming down those rocks. The Yamaha was tight and all you could hear was the suspension working. Having said that, why not just buy a Jeep and drive it there and back home when you are done lol. I've never understood the allure of these cars for off road when you could get an ATV and have more fun. I mean you drive a car to where you're going to ride, unload another car and get in it and drive some more. I know they are fun but man the price of these things is nuts.
I own both. A 2021 rmax and two jeeps. The jeeps are great for bigger trails and move a little slower, but more comfort for sure. And if they break, it's hard to drive it home sometimes. Can be done though. The sxs is faster on the trails and can get in tighter spots and hit jumps. If it breaks, I can most likely get it to the trailer. We take the machine that fits the trails we plan to go on.
RMax is far superior to the General all around period.
Polaris is fckn GARBAGE pure an simple. Oh you're really happy with you Polaris?! Oh it hasn't burned a belt/broke/tore apart/running well for 400+ Miles already well then wallah!!! Boom!! It just spontaneously caught on fire and you're extremely lucky you got you baby boy outta the machine just 2 seconds before!!!
Yamaha you deserve a massive thumbs up 👍 straight up best machine made today and we all know how damn reliable your machines are. Everyone I know has owned atleast 1 Can Am and 1 Polaris that we all sold because they're city boy machines that'll leave your ass stranded even tho you have tools and spares it's always going to leave you screwed and getting towed home
Yamaha. The old REAL Arctic Cats, Honda Kawasaki Suzuki are very well built extremely reliable machines. Arctic Cat being 100% American was King with big block power with massive full-sized American frame then wall street city boy Textron swooped in and bled them dry into the prune they are this very day.....a sad pathetic joke going no where! They destroyed the most exciting company (can am and Arctic Cat battling it out was legendary and led us to the point we're at this day
I came out of a Kawasaki and bought a 22 General XP. Absolutely love it. He complained about the engine braking. I have found it works great.
It's not the engine braking it's the fact that front drive is not engaged on the downhill allowing the rear tires to skid on steep hills, only the Pols with downhill decent (or whatever it's called) keeps the front drive engaged on the downhill.
I really want a new machine, but the cost is crazy. My 2005 Sportsman is going to have to do.
Love the Rmax
Thank you for the great video. I'm getting the Rmax
I have owned both brands. They are both good. However, having had to rebuild a ranger 1000 clutch, I would go with the Yamaha. Yamaha fit and finish are superior. Yamaha handling and braking is also better. Yamaha duribility is legendary.
Great music choice. Loved them.
Yamaha R-Max is far superior!
I bought a 2018 polaris sportsman 850 HO brand new. I will never buy another polaris product again. It is the clunckiest, squeakiest, rattliest bike I've ever owned. It constantly feels like its going to fall apart. You about need a hammer to shift gears and you have to get about 1500 rpm before the gear engages and lurches forward or back. The engine sounds like it has 100k miles on it brand new. The quality feels terrible and if you dare push the throttle the power is there but it feels like a gamble if the engine is going to stay intact. I personally would rate it lower than CF moto and probably lower than Coleman as well.
The belt Slap in the general at 5:27 is bad. That right there makes me want a rmax more
I agree, but I thing that was classic Polaris secondary clutch chatter.
That's not belt slap you heard
I think that's the clutch. I know my Polaris always makes that sound and my Yamaha never does. It's just normal Polaris noise, like it or not. It can be alarming at first, but once you get accustomed it's just background noise.
@@curtissmith8789 I agree, so true. My general does this
I made the decision a year ago to go with the general over the r-max. The main reasons I chose the general is Ride command, I hate the shoulder pads on the r maxx, and polaris aftermarket is above and beyond any other brand. I agree the fit and finish is probably better on the r max but I’m happy with the general so far
Love my general XP
All I will say is Yamaha Rmax is quality. We havex3 as a family and would never buy a Polaris. Why? Our good friend we ride with over the years are constantly fixing little things and they get noisy and loose over the years. Just the quality in Yamaha we like.
i have a grizz and x2. can t beat their cvt.
All this is only for 2 seat I want to see the 4 seat comparison then let’s talk about overall quality and leg room
I watched dirt trax tv on their RUclips channel about the RMax 4. I think they said that the general has more room, but the seats are better positioned in the rmax 4. Of course you also can't overlook the fact that while the rmax 4 may be better, the general 4 doesn't lose the cargo bed. I'm torn between the 2 cause I have kids and the cargo bed on the general 4 is a good option. I wish the rmax 4 had one
looking into buying the rmax xtr myself. they have one sitting right next to a general at a local dealer. looking at the 2 in the showroom it's really hard to see why the general is almost 3k more. if anything, I would say the yamaha is better build quality.
I think the R-max is better built. The interior of the R-max alone sets it apart. It could come down to the workers wage package.
Top speed?
who cares, there not exactly race cars!
The rmax cab is to small for bigger people, i got the 2023 krx 1000 and it has plenty of cab room, that was my main concern when buying, and the krx just happens to be better than these 2, also more room than canam and pol
Not the same class and the KRX isn’t even legal in many states. Can’t even buy one in WI as no dealer sells them.
thank for the video
Come on Honda. used to be the best back in the day. All we have left for quality products is Japan.
The only concern I have is the electrical system will fail before the mechanical if you’re playing in the mud/water for too long.
We’ll that’s just because electronics don’t like getting wet💦🚫🔌
I’m not sure how Polaris became so popular.. they have the quality, fit and finish of a Chinese made motorcycle…
Is this trail by Gorman?
Yes it is.
Polaris all-day 😂
Man, the presenter could not have been any dryer.
y they call them cars lol
Because that’s what they are by definition.
At least they don't call them bikes😂
Every company that sells them calls them SxSs
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My god noisy suspension? Sounds like the old days 4 wheeling. Car like interior….not! Didn’t have downhill control? Sounds like fun! Polaris wins!!!
Yamha stinkd yall😂