One problem with this. Where would Neolithic buiders get access to hard hats? Also everyone forgets the health and safety implications. For instance, they would need a compliance officer, risk assessment forms and a road and streetworks certificate. And don't get me started on where they got planning permission.
@@bl8388 He sure did. I just watched one of his videos where he raised a block five feet up and started to walk it out over another block. I can lift a 600 lb. block of granite up as high as I want with one large pry bar and a bunch of timbers to stack up under it as I go up.
This is exactly what I've been looking for! Knew I wasn't the only one with the idea of lever walking. 1. Add weights to the levers to reduce needed effort. 2. Increase lever length...a lot. 3. No one said the levers had to be straight. Make them jag down at the end and then you don't need scaffolding, or as much scaffolding. 4. Or use ropes to pull the levers. 5. Tie a beam or ropes of the same length at the ends of the levers on each side to make sure they move more or less in sync. 6. Use oxen to pull the levers forward.
I have another theory. At first stones were in cylindrical shape. Moved those cylindrical stones to the site and cut them there into rectangular shape or any other desired shape.
Not convinced. The round stone would be almost double the weight, and I doubt you could roll it over bog or up hills. The rowing method demonstrated here would surely work much better over the kind of rough ground they would have been dealing with?
It was big wood discs. They cut a square out of the middle of each disc and popped the stone into it. Made it it's own axle and rolled it. Being wood, they were lost to time ages ago (or likely reused and the forgot about)
Yep, Wally is the GOAT :) imo - He came up with the best (and simplest) methods for moving weight. Though I think; Stonehenge was partly a communal project. So it was important to use many people. It helped unify (or just keep peace between) various tribes, by completing projects like this together (sharing and combining resources too). I'm sure the ancients, like Wally, understood how powerful gravity was (even if they didn't 'define' it as gravity :) And also knowledge of the elements (like water and earth) and how to combine them to move weight. All these skills combined, could move mountains ..things the 'modern' world forgot with the onset of the industrial revolution (but 'hints' of it are still in cultures around the world).
Not really. Both are about equally plausible, and MOVINg the blocks in this video was more efficient and time-saving. What Wallly did that was impressive was erect his block. I don't think he even tried to address laying the top block
all he would have to do with his method is raise one in the center the same way he raised the one he stood before standing it. tie it in place then stand a block one either side then work the elevated one down onto the other 2 and he could do it with just one person.
I think the Indonesians had it figured correctly. I have seen videos of people attempting the rope-n-roll method INCORRECTLY, with the "one two three PULL" technique, in which almost all the crowd's effort went into taking up the slack and stretching the ropes, then jerking the stone a short distance and relaxing again. The Indonesians did a long sustained pull, which is much more efficient, keeping the ropes stretched and using the stone's momentum instead of losing it again with each short tug.
There are many ways to move and raise large blocks. The question only becomes complicated when you ask "which method did they use. There is always the tried and true method of burying the pillars, move the lintel, remove the extra dirt.
That part of the world has lots of ice in the winter. And moved on a sled or just dragged on the ice. Once moving it would travel under inertia. Ice works in theory for razing and setting it in place too. Just pile snow and water into a ramp. Also think that is how they mite have worked the stones on Easter Island. Chuxgold.
Easter Island has no snow/ice. It's in a more temperate zone. But it was covered with trees when the islanders landed. Movement by log rolling; not far fetched.
Under enough weight (pressure) ice melts. Ice sliding could work fine for smaller blocks but once you get up to trilithon Baalbek sized stones you'll need to use the lever walking method.
I personally think the top block was raised first, possibly gong higher than what they required. They then used Wally Wallingtons technique to stand the upright stones. Then when they were in place, the top block was lowered on top of the standing upright blocks.
They don't even want to touch the great pyramid of Egypt. Would like to see them move 80 tons solid granite and then float it up the Nile with wooden boats 600 miles. You also have to move it on uneven ground.
Did you not watch the whole video? Check what starts at 5:30. They develop a system and add more people. They reach a pace where they could move the stone 20 miles in 3 months with one team of 30 people. Towards the end of the video they also demonstrate how the stone would be raised in a similar way, to sit on top of the vertical supports.
It's clear that Stonehenge was never completed. The reason why we still see megaliths there is because, well you know, megaliths don't vanish, they stay where they were left. By that we can realize that the "missing megaliths" are missing because they never arrived.
If they built a long ramp out of earth they could "row" them up to position? Simply move earth ramp to next position to start again? Simple technology but would work?
This is actually the best way (fastest, least manpower). This can be improved by adding baskets with stones to the ends of the levers to reduce the effort required to only 1-2 people per lever. Lever walking at that rate is much faster than rollers. With no evidence of a level well paved road, we can rule out rolling. I've moved machinery in my job using hydraulicly powered dolly and rollers to move machines that "only" weighed 30 tons. Even the 10 ton machines at the slightest crack in the concrete floor between poured sections gave us trouble where the rollers would get stuck and we'd have to lift the machine on jacks, then reposition the rollers to the other side of cracks. And that was a level floor and took 4 people 6hrs just to move 300 ft. With lever walking, the fulcrums can be adjusted to match the slope of the ground, the block doesn't have to stay level but could tilt as much as the friction would allow. The levers can also compensate for a few feet in variation of the ground and still be useable.
Josiah Jack, I am sorry for my inadequate English. Who moved the stones all the way from Wales? No human at all, but the glaciers. During the last 2.6 million years, there has been at least 30 periods of glaciers. Glaciers create tremendous power. I know the TV-program "Drain the Ocean." Is it possible to drain the soil all the way down to the bed rock? If so, what do we find? My guess: A large number of stones similar to those in Stonehenge, at the site, or nearby.
There is a much simpler way to get the stones on top. Once the upright stones where in place they then cover the whole site in a big mound (plenty of their burial mounds still exist so we know they new how to do this well) pull the stones to the top and assemble them in the right place using markers. Then remove the earth from under the stones wooden blocks maybe shaped like wedges would hold the top stones just off the upright stones so the earth could be dug out from under them. Then the wooden blocks/wedges are removed so the stones would drop into place. This were the tongue n grooves on the end of the stones and the ball n sockets under them (which nobody seems to want to explain) come into play. The tongue n grooves would prevent the stones from moving out of place when the blocks are removed and the ball n sockets would finally lock them into exact place. Then finally remove the mound so all well within the technology we know they had
There is a guy, a single guy, that figured out how to do this by himself. Different method of course, but I think moving the stones is t the question. It's how they quarried and carved them.
Wally Wallington, put the Megalith Movers aka Gordon Pipes & friends to absolute shame...he had so many nifty tricks...Gordon Pipes could have achieved so much more if he was aware of Wally's rediscovered techniques...simple balancing to raise the stone lintel in a day to full height!
You don't need to overcomplicate things, simply stand the stone up and assemble four teams of people, four ropes are tied at the top with a rope for each side, the teams front and back control the tilt while the side teams rock the standing stone side to side and walk it. Covering twenty miles like that would be loads easier than with any of these complicated lever systems people come up with. On a much smaller scale it's the same basic physics that have allowed me to move furniture and stuff around on my own, things that would take 3 or 4 people to move if they where lying down. The height of the stones is all the leverage you need, with a few people it wouldn't even seem that heavy.
Would be possible, but has an enormous risk of falling and breaking or falling and needing to raise again. Why not use this simple method Indonesians use since ages: ruclips.net/video/UzL4VNb8NJc/видео.html ?
It seems that this is how the Easter Islanders moved their Moai statutes - based on a combination of the old legends that the stones walked into place combined with modern experimental archaeology. So you may well be right. But the key lesson is surely that there were many techniques that would have worked, so we don't need to rely crackpot theories that involve extra-terrestrials. We may never know which of the options they actually used, but we can be confident they could have done it with the technologies at their command. The same can be said for the pyramids and other structures. You can do a lot with wood, rope, gravity, stones, sand and a bit of ingenuity...
Now THIS is what I was looking for! Watched a video of a stone being stood up for a Stonehenge replica and people in the comments were raving. That is *not* the cool part. *This* is. Learning how to put a horizontal stone on top of two!
@@markanderson9123 They rough cut the stones at the quarry into the basic shape and dress them at the spot, so any damage can be smoothed out? A theory.
It's funny how they always stop when things get difficult and say they would just simply continue on the same way. Like going to the moon and then say it's easy to go to another solar system now they did the first little part.
And how would this work with a rough stone that is not square and even in weight to move the logs, and that did NOT have an edge to line the log cuts up to, and this uphill and downhill over a landscape with swamps and rivers under bad weather conditions , raining for instance like it does so often there? NOT
What was the group d like when Stonehenge was built. I wonder if period core soil samples have been examined. Because land changes over time. Maybe it was solid Earth then!
So you don't think they would rough shape the stone at the quarry? That they would move it all the way to stonehenge then shape it? As for the landscape I honestly believe they moved the stones in the winter, hard ground and maybe easier to slide the stones, then erected them in the spring , summer and fall.
In the 1920's archeologists discovered Stonehenge stones in the ground unassembled. They had the audacity to erect the stones themselves into CONCRETE, where they thought they go. I was sad to discover that the stones weren't standing since ancient times. I feel tricked and ashamed for our ancestors. Old photos of the construction are online
this is very much a misleading comment. You are correct in saying that some (not all) of the stones were re erected and set in concrete to prevent them falling again, after bad weather knocked them over. However the stones were indeed erected in ancient times, and the restoration in the late 19th and early 20th centuries were moving stones back where they used to be. there are drawings of stone henge from medieval times showing the erected stones, and written descriptions of them from even earlier.
@@horseydoggygurl thanks for correcting me , on some stones not all. But I still don't agree with concrete. Restoration should be more correct for the period.
That's one thing they had back in there day was a lot of man power!...and all the time in the world to get it done! Don't think there was a time frame to get it done.
Well just because you could do it doesn’t mean that’s how they did it, or who dit it. My big question is why. So the chief woke up one day and said I have had a vision so forget what you are normally doing ( hunting or building shelter) I want you to spend years day after gruelling day moving stones to build my vision. Think we all know what the answer would be.
Wow great study for the idea of those ancient people of England to build the The Stonehenge. Better explanation of how those people build that historical things of England.
They had help of the Egyptians they moved 800 ton blocks all the time. And the crew from Peru advised too. The site is a little over rated compared to the others and especially gobekli tepe.
So if it’s so easy how did they move the colossus of Memnon 430 miles from Aswan Egypt to Cairo it was one piece of stone sculpture weighing 720 tons. The blocks they are moving only way 12 tons. Also experts say they were not able to use the Nile river to move this much weight. The Nile river could have only been used to move the 15 to 30 ton stones
They did not have metal shovels back then or rope? or work boots? or leather gloves? Certainly no metal moving tools? You have to put yourself in their shoes exactly at the time this was done. Yes, they were moved somehow, but dont tell me there was a Metholithic Survey team that knew math, that had not been created yet, back then...
I think they would have rolled it instead of lifting it. I'm sure a 100 people pulling on it could move it. Or maybe some sort of leverage to push it along on rolling logs would be most efficient.
Facts i hate how on docos they will show a scientist baffled at how something was built like tf their a scientist not an engineer they have literal no idea the amount of dumb scientists ive seen say aliens might have done it on the history channel 🤣🤣 most stupid show ever made
@@williamchamberlain2263 I'm confused. Do you mean the Bosnian pyramids? I googled “ancient wooden pyramids“ and didn't find what you described. Please share a link.
Just wondering how did the aincent people's get stone on top of the two poles initially? Unlike modern man who had gigantic Crane to lift it on for them ????
This idea would work better if you add a stone counterweight to the end of each oar pole thing😅... Just saying if you're going to use leverage you should make it as easy to push down as possible.
lol actually, their was this guy, Wally Wallington (of flint Michigan) who was able to do the exact same thing. BUT ONLY BYHIMSELF. No super strength, and even more hilariously simpler. He even uses the same technic to move a whole barn/shed around.Only using wood and stone.
I think this is incorrect, Neolithic builders would have been extremely hard pressed to get their hands on that tremendous amount of perfectly straight, ample length, hard wooden logs. It just seems much to modern a method for builders of that time period.
Archaeologists talk/spin about - how the stone were moved? They have no idea what Stonehenge was or why it was made - Archaeologists can tell you nothing about Stonehenge itself.
the last part is the hardest part. 'They levered it into position'. No the couldn't leaver it into position because the structure that the lintel is on would collapse.
Imho the raised it first a d then erected the standing stones below with the technique Wally Wallington used several times. Then just knock out the wood below
if you come up with a theory now, that that does not prove anything. We can come up with hundreds of methods today, but that is not actually figuring out how it was built.
' men makes cement block or concrete block from the company... the stonehenge is a natural rock from the ground or hill or mountain... the cement block / concrete block and natural stone are big different material plus different shape / different weight
Nice idea but bollox to the three months estimate!! You're off yr heads. The workers here looked fit and they wouldnt have got that block out the field in a week - that's clearly exhausting work....Wally Wallington's got closest..
LOLZ! Levered it up? They forget that the people levering it up have to stand on platforms as it is risen. They could build platforms for just one or two set of uprights but as you curve around there is no longer any room to lever the rest because the other stones would be in the way of the long levers being used since there are two rings. Moving the stone on flat ground is one thing but uphill? They would need more people and logs but it is not possible to fit any more people as they showed the people and logs needed just to move on flat groung! Rolling it downhill will end up rolling out of control and the sheer length of the stones will cause them to crack from their sheer mass. They neglected to show how they got the two logs under the slab. They have proven nothing but shown how arrogant they are. The devil is in the details.
clay poon I am reading the comments after watching this video and a lot of people keep saying how hard it would be to get the logs underneath to even start. Why couldn't they just dig 2 small trenches on both sides and then get the levers underneath. Lift it up a small bit and set it on small logs. Then refill the trenches partially to get more height and set it the on larger logs. I think that we get caught up on time because we work 40 hour weeks and a building has to be built in a certain time frame. Maybe it took them a month to get the logs underneath the stone and then 2 years per team to move them? Back then it didn't matter. And as far as strength and skill, I'm also sure that the men who moved these stones originally were in way better shape and more practiced than these outta shape old people who attempted it in the video. I only seen 1 or 2 in shape people on the whole team. And skill-wise, if stone moving was a trade of the time I'm sure you had teams that could move faster and more efficient based on practice. Same as now days a lawyer couldn't get on a roof and lay shingles as fast as a man who does it 10 hours a day. Human beings are amazing and with years of experience and true understanding we and they can do almost anything. In my opinion Stonehenge was difficult but very accomplishable.
This entire experiment would be impossible without the crane putting the stone on top of the logs. So this doesn’t explain how anything happened. Cut the stone out of the quarry, place it in position on the moving logs, move it 20 miles, place them in formation... then come talk to me.
I love that even on videos like these, proving how it can actually be done, there's always someone claiming it wasn't possible because "reasons", therefore aliens....
It's obvious they used mammoths to pick up the stones using their tusks, like an ancient forklift. I saw this in a documentary called the Flintstones
Yaba daba duuuude, me too
Gee, both of you were *almost* funny...
🤣🤣🤣 you can't be serious 🤣🤣🤣 they would never have enough peanuts for those mammoths
Well actually a crane was used in 1958
I have a feeling people would think your being serious with this comment 🤣
One problem with this. Where would Neolithic buiders get access to hard hats? Also everyone forgets the health and safety implications. For instance, they would need a compliance officer, risk assessment forms and a road and streetworks certificate.
And don't get me started on where they got planning permission.
Not to mention smokeless tobacco to chew maybe they had that, but for sure they had beer, ale and mead to drink after a long day’s work
Lol
Anthony, they got the hard hats from aliens. The aliens said “we can help them be more safe” Dropped off the hats and left
What about the engineering degrees, licences etc
Omfg this comment!n!n!!
Wally Wallington moved, and stood up, Stonehenge sized blocks by HIMSELF in Michigan!
That was pretty impressive. He didn't figure out how to get one on top of the "pillar," stones. But he sank one into the ground like a pile.
@@bl8388 He sure did. I just watched one of his videos where he raised a block five feet up and started to walk it out over another block. I can lift a 600 lb. block of granite up as high as I want with one large pry bar and a bunch of timbers to stack up under it as I go up.
This is exactly what I've been looking for! Knew I wasn't the only one with the idea of lever walking.
1. Add weights to the levers to reduce needed effort.
2. Increase lever length...a lot.
3. No one said the levers had to be straight. Make them jag down at the end and then you don't need scaffolding, or as much scaffolding.
4. Or use ropes to pull the levers.
5. Tie a beam or ropes of the same length at the ends of the levers on each side to make sure they move more or less in sync.
6. Use oxen to pull the levers forward.
Impossible: In those days they could not have used plastic helmets.
I have another theory. At first stones were in cylindrical shape. Moved those cylindrical stones to the site and cut them there into rectangular shape or any other desired shape.
That is not a bad theory.
No need to cut it round, but it could also have been: ruclips.net/video/DVorEqS_gqo/видео.html
Not convinced. The round stone would be almost double the weight, and I doubt you could roll it over bog or up hills. The rowing method demonstrated here would surely work much better over the kind of rough ground they would have been dealing with?
@@tullochgorum6323 watch Wally Wallington and see how he moves giant blocks with just a few pebbles.
It was big wood discs. They cut a square out of the middle of each disc and popped the stone into it. Made it it's own axle and rolled it. Being wood, they were lost to time ages ago (or likely reused and the forgot about)
Wally Wallington. It takes one American to do what 50 British men can do 🤣
😅 hah. His theory is way smarter than this one.
Yep, Wally is the GOAT :)
imo - He came up with the best (and simplest) methods for moving weight.
Though I think; Stonehenge was partly a communal project. So it was important to use many people. It helped unify (or just keep peace between) various tribes, by completing projects like this together (sharing and combining resources too).
I'm sure the ancients, like Wally, understood how powerful gravity was (even if they didn't 'define' it as gravity :)
And also knowledge of the elements (like water and earth) and how to combine them to move weight.
All these skills combined, could move mountains ..things the 'modern' world forgot with the onset of the industrial revolution (but 'hints' of it are still in cultures around the world).
Lmao I love the patriotism behind this comment. It's no wonder they came over and tried taxing is
Wally's theory was spot on😁👍
What a legend aye you woudnt think such a smart man would come from a country full of retards
For the Phd holders and scientists present at that experiment, Wally Wallington a retired construction worker put you all to shame
Not really. Both are about equally plausible, and MOVINg the blocks in this video was more efficient and time-saving. What Wallly did that was impressive was erect his block. I don't think he even tried to address laying the top block
all he would have to do with his method is raise one in the center the same way he raised the one he stood before standing it. tie it in place then stand a block one either side then work the elevated one down onto the other 2 and he could do it with just one person.
But did he
Teaching Myself plz explain more....
William Patrick he clearly addressed the laying of the top of the block at the end of the video
I think the Indonesians had it figured correctly. I have seen videos of people attempting the rope-n-roll method INCORRECTLY, with the "one two three PULL" technique, in which almost all the crowd's effort went into taking up the slack and stretching the ropes, then jerking the stone a short distance and relaxing again. The Indonesians did a long sustained pull, which is much more efficient, keeping the ropes stretched and using the stone's momentum instead of losing it again with each short tug.
Facts though smart indonesians
Right, just like towing a car.
The problem is you have a bunch of senior accountants doing the labour hehe
There are many ways to move and raise large blocks. The question only becomes complicated when you ask "which method did they use.
There is always the tried and true method of burying the pillars, move the lintel, remove the extra dirt.
That part of the world has lots of ice in the winter. And moved on a sled or just dragged on the ice. Once moving it would travel under inertia. Ice works in theory for razing and setting it in place too. Just pile snow and water into a ramp. Also think that is how they mite have worked the stones on Easter Island.
Chuxgold.
Easter Island has no snow/ice. It's in a more temperate zone. But it was covered with trees when the islanders landed. Movement by log rolling; not far fetched.
Valerie Pallaoro yeah with over 600 men
I agree with you sir and the stone slide thru the ice. But the problems is how the left up the stone and build perfectly?
It would have def been much colder back then and if they packed down the snow into a channel poured water over it you would get an ice road
Under enough weight (pressure) ice melts. Ice sliding could work fine for smaller blocks but once you get up to trilithon Baalbek sized stones you'll need to use the lever walking method.
wonder if it would of been easier if they did it with longer logs.
however ingenious the ancient technology used there's NOTHING 'magical' or 'magikal' if you prefer, about it.
I personally think the top block was raised first, possibly gong higher than what they required. They then used Wally Wallingtons technique to stand the upright stones. Then when they were in place, the top block was lowered on top of the standing upright blocks.
Yep i believe that as well
Yes that's much better this way haha
How would you hold the top block in a way that didn't get in the way of standing the other blocks?
Try this now uphill and downhil and through woodland, and I might take this method seriously.
Combined with this and it works everywhere: ruclips.net/video/DVorEqS_gqo/видео.html
Simple , add more men and bigger bits of wood
@@kapo7463 lol with 143 tonne blocks a distance of 800km? Lmfao
@@ASquareNarwal quarried locally not hundreds of miles away
Look at those aliens moving that stone with their advanced technology.
Row row row your monolith gently down your field merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream
The problem is: all of these workers have the average age of 85 years old....
Literally 🤣
Pure genious, thank you for contributing to mankind History and Technology.
I'm impressed. I think they used methods like this on site, but they floated those blocks the distance.
Love how they always use modern technology to prove an ancient theory and also don't even finish their theory
They don't even want to touch the great pyramid of Egypt. Would like to see them move 80 tons solid granite and then float it up the Nile with wooden boats 600 miles. You also have to move it on uneven ground.
put weights on the levers instead then you can move the blocks easy 1 person per lever
La meilleure expérimentation sur ce sujet. Et comme toujours la pratique faite par un homme de métier, pas les théories débiles.
All you need is one person and a few sticks &stones
>moves rock 3 inches
> applause
> mystery solved
.......??
You Moron smh.
Did you not watch the whole video? Check what starts at 5:30. They develop a system and add more people. They reach a pace where they could move the stone 20 miles in 3 months with one team of 30 people. Towards the end of the video they also demonstrate how the stone would be raised in a similar way, to sit on top of the vertical supports.
The pyramids were built using the same method, so was at Paul's cathedral, my house used bamboo scaffolding.
It's clear that Stonehenge was never completed.
The reason why we still see megaliths there is because,
well you know,
megaliths don't vanish,
they stay where they were left.
By that we can realize that the "missing megaliths" are missing because they never arrived.
If they built a long ramp out of earth they could "row" them up to position? Simply move earth ramp to next position to start again? Simple technology but would work?
There's no way they did that for that many miles.
There had to have been a better way
Peasants are relatively cheap
Why?
This is actually the best way (fastest, least manpower). This can be improved by adding baskets with stones to the ends of the levers to reduce the effort required to only 1-2 people per lever. Lever walking at that rate is much faster than rollers. With no evidence of a level well paved road, we can rule out rolling. I've moved machinery in my job using hydraulicly powered dolly and rollers to move machines that "only" weighed 30 tons. Even the 10 ton machines at the slightest crack in the concrete floor between poured sections gave us trouble where the rollers would get stuck and we'd have to lift the machine on jacks, then reposition the rollers to the other side of cracks. And that was a level floor and took 4 people 6hrs just to move 300 ft. With lever walking, the fulcrums can be adjusted to match the slope of the ground, the block doesn't have to stay level but could tilt as much as the friction would allow. The levers can also compensate for a few feet in variation of the ground and still be useable.
Josiah Jack, I am sorry for my inadequate English. Who moved the stones all the way from Wales? No human at all, but the glaciers. During the last 2.6 million years, there has been at least 30 periods of glaciers. Glaciers create tremendous power. I know the TV-program "Drain the Ocean." Is it possible to drain the soil all the way down to the bed rock? If so, what do we find? My guess: A large number of stones similar to those in Stonehenge, at the site, or nearby.
See this: ruclips.net/video/DVorEqS_gqo/видео.html or they just cut it round and rolled it and chiseled the final form at site
And people think it would take aliens to build the pyramids. No, all it takes is a little brain and a lot of brawn.
What’s most astonishing is the aerial shot of Stonehenge with the A303 showing flowing traffic running past it....
Yeah that was weird lol
Like imagine just casually passing stone henge on your way to work 😂 I figured it was in some remote protected area or national park
There is a much simpler way to get the stones on top. Once the upright stones where in place they then cover the whole site in a big mound (plenty of their burial mounds still exist so we know they new how to do this well) pull the stones to the top and assemble them in the right place using markers. Then remove the earth from under the stones wooden blocks maybe shaped like wedges would hold the top stones just off the upright stones so the earth could be dug out from under them. Then the wooden blocks/wedges are removed so the stones would drop into place. This were the tongue n grooves on the end of the stones and the ball n sockets under them (which nobody seems to want to explain) come into play. The tongue n grooves would prevent the stones from moving out of place when the blocks are removed and the ball n sockets would finally lock them into exact place. Then finally remove the mound so all well within the technology we know they had
You might be right. Stonehenge was prbably a religious temple, so it might be related to corpses
Much easier to do wallys method this is over complicating it even know its so simple it could be simpler work smarter not harder
There is a guy, a single guy, that figured out how to do this by himself. Different method of course, but I think moving the stones is t the question. It's how they quarried and carved them.
Stonedhedge was buil from the top down usin alien anti gravity technology from aliens.
Wally Wallington, put the Megalith Movers aka Gordon Pipes & friends to absolute shame...he had so many nifty tricks...Gordon Pipes could have achieved so much more if he was aware of Wally's rediscovered techniques...simple balancing to raise the stone lintel in a day to full height!
You don't need to overcomplicate things, simply stand the stone up and assemble four teams of people, four ropes are tied at the top with a rope for each side, the teams front and back control the tilt while the side teams rock the standing stone side to side and walk it. Covering twenty miles like that would be loads easier than with any of these complicated lever systems people come up with. On a much smaller scale it's the same basic physics that have allowed me to move furniture and stuff around on my own, things that would take 3 or 4 people to move if they where lying down. The height of the stones is all the leverage you need, with a few people it wouldn't even seem that heavy.
Would be possible, but has an enormous risk of falling and breaking or falling and needing to raise again. Why not use this simple method Indonesians use since ages: ruclips.net/video/UzL4VNb8NJc/видео.html ?
It seems that this is how the Easter Islanders moved their Moai statutes - based on a combination of the old legends that the stones walked into place combined with modern experimental archaeology. So you may well be right. But the key lesson is surely that there were many techniques that would have worked, so we don't need to rely crackpot theories that involve extra-terrestrials. We may never know which of the options they actually used, but we can be confident they could have done it with the technologies at their command. The same can be said for the pyramids and other structures. You can do a lot with wood, rope, gravity, stones, sand and a bit of ingenuity...
They were put in place by modern cranes in the mid 1900's. There are pictures.
If they had only men who actually do labour jobs they’d be twice as far.
I bet 12,000 men could move the biggest stones 100 miles in a week or so.
Brisk walking gets a fit person 20 miles a day. You're math is bad.
Finding out it is possible, does not solve any mystery: Stonehenge shows they did it. The mystery is why they did it.
Now THIS is what I was looking for! Watched a video of a stone being stood up for a Stonehenge replica and people in the comments were raving. That is *not* the cool part. *This* is. Learning how to put a horizontal stone on top of two!
Ouch @ 3:12 that guy gets hit with the log 😬 thank God he was wearing a hard hat
This video and the comments proves that the original builders were doing something weird.
If they had used gorilla glue then they wouldn't have to keep moving them every year, personally I think cling film is the answer, it's great....
3 inches at a time lads, only another 20 miles to go
The blocks are really being damaged
That was my concern as well.
It's safe to assume that this technique, over dozens of miles, could damage the structure of the stone as well.
@@markanderson9123 They rough cut the stones at the quarry into the basic shape and dress them at the spot, so any damage can be smoothed out? A theory.
somewhere up in the clouds there a stealthy ufo is hovering carrying aliens laughing theyre asses off
Where are the Neanderthals when you need them?
It lacks the CURSING, WHIP and HUNGER....
It's funny how they always stop when things get difficult and say they would just simply continue on the same way. Like going to the moon and then say it's easy to go to another solar system now they did the first little part.
and somewhere in the stars our great ancestors will be lookin down upon them saying, l'ook at them idiots, whos modern now?'
And how would this work with a rough stone that is not square and even in weight to move the logs, and that did NOT have an edge to line the log cuts up to, and this uphill and downhill over a landscape with swamps and rivers under bad weather conditions , raining for instance like it does so often there? NOT
Uneven levers for uneven shapes. But moving across soft ground or swamp? Forget it
What was the group d like when Stonehenge was built. I wonder if period core soil samples have been examined. Because land changes over time. Maybe it was solid Earth then!
@@DanMerick just use grass in the water and swamps.
So you don't think they would rough shape the stone at the quarry? That they would move it all the way to stonehenge then shape it? As for the landscape I honestly believe they moved the stones in the winter, hard ground and maybe easier to slide the stones, then erected them in the spring , summer and fall.
Don't listen to anyone wearing a hard hat in open field , only a certain type do that
In the 1920's archeologists discovered Stonehenge stones in the ground unassembled. They had the audacity to erect the stones themselves into CONCRETE, where they thought they go. I was sad to discover that the stones weren't standing since ancient times. I feel tricked and ashamed for our ancestors. Old photos of the construction are online
this is very much a misleading comment. You are correct in saying that some (not all) of the stones were re erected and set in concrete to prevent them falling again, after bad weather knocked them over. However the stones were indeed erected in ancient times, and the restoration in the late 19th and early 20th centuries were moving stones back where they used to be. there are drawings of stone henge from medieval times showing the erected stones, and written descriptions of them from even earlier.
@@horseydoggygurl thanks for correcting me , on some stones not all. But I still don't agree with concrete. Restoration should be more correct for the period.
@@dstruthers2950 Health and safety, nothing more. :D
was reading the back and forth of both of you and was heartened to see respect and decency from both of you...
thank you.
peace people
That's one thing they had back in there day was a lot of man power!...and all the time in the world to get it done!
Don't think there was a time frame to get it done.
Well just because you could do it doesn’t mean that’s how they did it, or who dit it. My big question is why. So the chief woke up one day and said I have had a vision so forget what you are normally doing ( hunting or building shelter) I want you to spend years day after gruelling day moving stones to build my vision. Think we all know what the answer would be.
Not one single internet "expert" Actually knows.
Ah,I see Mack truck
Wow great study for the idea of those ancient people of England to build the The Stonehenge. Better explanation of how those people build that historical things of England.
The log cradle would have moved more easily across snow.
They had help of the Egyptians they moved 800 ton blocks all the time. And the crew from Peru advised too. The site is a little over rated compared to the others and especially gobekli tepe.
No they didnt shut up why is everyones explanation someone else giving them help. Egypt wasnt the only advanced civilisation
So if it’s so easy how did they move the colossus of Memnon 430 miles from Aswan Egypt to Cairo it was one piece of stone sculpture weighing 720 tons. The blocks they are moving only way 12 tons. Also experts say they were not able to use the Nile river to move this much weight. The Nile river could have only been used to move the 15 to 30 ton stones
Man power how else was it done? What are you going to start saying some stupid shit like aliens
Cool experiment but, WHY DIDN'T THE ANCIENTS WRITE ANY OF THE INSTRUCTIONS DOWN?!!!!
Save us modern folk a WHOLE lotta trouble!
They probably figured it was obvious...
Would you write something down if it was already common knowledge ?
Think ancient Britons were literate?
It was probably super common knowledge at the time. We don't give people instructions for how to use doorknobs or how to open dresser drawers.
@@josiahjack455 lol exactly.
They did it through sound and resonance
I am sure the ancient builders , moved the 300 ton stones at Baalbek the same exact way...
800 tons. 24 of the smaller stones around the Trilithon are 300 tons each, but the big ones are nearly triple that.
Yeah pretty sure the mayan built sacsayhuman the same way.
They did not have metal shovels back then or rope? or work boots? or leather gloves? Certainly no metal moving tools? You have to put yourself in their shoes exactly at the time this was done. Yes, they were moved somehow, but dont tell me there was a Metholithic Survey team that knew math, that had not been created yet, back then...
@@markanderson9123 Mayans were in Mexico, not South America. Incas built the Walls
@@DIOSpeedDemon Facts. Peru right?...Jesus that was one big ass empire. We don't give the native american's enough credit.
Inspired by the great Wally Wallington
Maybe someone with gigantism built it
I think they would have rolled it instead of lifting it. I'm sure a 100 people pulling on it could move it. Or maybe some sort of leverage to push it along on rolling logs would be most efficient.
I love how people, not engineers show how simple it is to do what all the so called smart people can not figure it out.,
Facts i hate how on docos they will show a scientist baffled at how something was built like tf their a scientist not an engineer they have literal no idea the amount of dumb scientists ive seen say aliens might have done it on the history channel 🤣🤣 most stupid show ever made
it takes 600 people one day to move a big stone 100 yards. Shows video of people pulling and running at several miles an hour.
They use a crane half way through the building. What's the point then?
Great. But why go through this effort?
It'd appear that building wooden super structures would be far more easier than moving and raising this stone.
Which is why the ancient wooden pyramids of Yugoslavia are so famous.
@@williamchamberlain2263
I'm confused. Do you mean the Bosnian pyramids?
I googled “ancient wooden pyramids“ and didn't find what you described.
Please share a link.
Ahahahaha
Religion dude , makes people do crazy (amazing) things. :D
It was another way, very easy
Yeah, get someone else to do it. Easy-peasy.
Just wondering how did the aincent people's get stone on top of the two poles initially?
Unlike modern man who had gigantic Crane to lift it on for them ????
Dig away some dirt to make space for levers under the stone.
This idea would work better if you add a stone counterweight to the end of each oar pole thing😅... Just saying if you're going to use leverage you should make it as easy to push down as possible.
Countweights
Okay.....someone had an Idea
lol actually, their was this guy, Wally Wallington (of flint Michigan) who was able to do the exact same thing. BUT ONLY BYHIMSELF. No super strength, and even more hilariously simpler. He even uses the same technic to move a whole barn/shed around.Only using wood and stone.
I think this is incorrect, Neolithic builders would have been extremely hard pressed to get their hands on that tremendous amount of perfectly straight, ample length, hard wooden logs. It just seems much to modern a method for builders of that time period.
Archaeologists talk/spin about - how the stone were moved? They have no idea what Stonehenge was or why it was made - Archaeologists can tell you nothing about Stonehenge itself.
You guys cheated. You used a truck and a crane to get it there. You should have hauled it from the quarry 50 miles away like the ancients did
How does it take a day to move 100 yards when the video shows them moving at like a yard per second lol
Mega theory,really!
the last part is the hardest part. 'They levered it into position'. No the couldn't leaver it into position because the structure that the lintel is on would collapse.
Imho the raised it first a d then erected the standing stones below with the technique Wally Wallington used several times. Then just knock out the wood below
NOOOO. SHOW US how you got th block onto the planks without a modern machine.
if you come up with a theory now, that that does not prove anything. We can come up with hundreds of methods today, but that is not actually figuring out how it was built.
I don't think the Darren stones were moved from over 20 miles. That's lies
DETROIT!!!
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men makes cement block or concrete block from the company...
the stonehenge is a natural rock from the ground or hill or mountain...
the cement block / concrete block and natural stone are big different material plus different shape / different weight
I see an awful lot of clapping for an incomplete project
It was winter snow packed to ice
Where was Osha during these times?
just built a circular frame like wheels around the stone this way your stone become the Axel and now just roll it using ropes on the ends
See ruclips.net/video/DVorEqS_gqo/видео.html
narrator speaks as fact. this concept is unproven claim.
Nice idea but bollox to the three months estimate!! You're off yr heads. The workers here looked fit and they wouldnt have got that block out the field in a week - that's clearly exhausting work....Wally Wallington's got closest..
Wow Great! Welldone Sir.
And how did they put initial logs under that block ? Seriously , this is just stupid .
LOLZ! Levered it up? They forget that the people levering it up have to stand on platforms as it is risen. They could build platforms for just one or two set of uprights but as you curve around there is no longer any room to lever the rest because the other stones would be in the way of the long levers being used since there are two rings.
Moving the stone on flat ground is one thing but uphill? They would need more people and logs but it is not possible to fit any more people as they showed the people and logs needed just to move on flat groung! Rolling it downhill will end up rolling out of control and the sheer length of the stones will cause them to crack from their sheer mass. They neglected to show how they got the two logs under the slab. They have proven nothing but shown how arrogant they are. The devil is in the details.
clay poon I am reading the comments after watching this video and a lot of people keep saying how hard it would be to get the logs underneath to even start. Why couldn't they just dig 2 small trenches on both sides and then get the levers underneath. Lift it up a small bit and set it on small logs. Then refill the trenches partially to get more height and set it the on larger logs. I think that we get caught up on time because we work 40 hour weeks and a building has to be built in a certain time frame. Maybe it took them a month to get the logs underneath the stone and then 2 years per team to move them? Back then it didn't matter. And as far as strength and skill, I'm also sure that the men who moved these stones originally were in way better shape and more practiced than these outta shape old people who attempted it in the video. I only seen 1 or 2 in shape people on the whole team. And skill-wise, if stone moving was a trade of the time I'm sure you had teams that could move faster and more efficient based on practice. Same as now days a lawyer couldn't get on a roof and lay shingles as fast as a man who does it 10 hours a day. Human beings are amazing and with years of experience and true understanding we and they can do almost anything. In my opinion Stonehenge was difficult but very accomplishable.
This entire experiment would be impossible without the crane putting the stone on top of the logs. So this doesn’t explain how anything happened. Cut the stone out of the quarry, place it in position on the moving logs, move it 20 miles, place them in formation... then come talk to me.
You quarry above the logs and/or tunnel under the original quarry. Use your head kid.
I love that even on videos like these, proving how it can actually be done, there's always someone claiming it wasn't possible because "reasons", therefore aliens....