I picked one up for 75 dollars, been wearing it to work every day for the past month, so far it has not gained or lost a single minute and no scratches on the crystal or bezel. Definitely worth the money....
Mine loses whole half hours on the hour. Pagani design is a waste of money and they have no customer service. They just keep sending coupons towards my next purchase.
Me too. I have it on right now. Of course, there are many elements of the finishing that are better than the Pagani. But there is nothing that justifies a $15,000+ difference on price. Rolex is wildly overpriced and overrated. I got my Pagani for $65. Two things do bug me. The cyclops magnification is too big and it’s hard to read. And the metal band was too big for me at the smallest I could make it. So I switched to a silicone band. I might try silver mesh. But I love the watch.
Taking the prices into considerations along with the quality, the Pagani is much more impressive. 200x price difference and you'd struggle to find real differences without a macro lens.
Your math is correct, but there's a bit more to the full pictured. The R will appreciate in value immediately by 5k due to the wait list. You could therefore sell it, buy several Ps and keep the difference. You would never get back what you paid for the P however since you paid next to nothing for it, that's probably not a bother to you, and in time you can of course do a lot of other things with the money you paid for the R long term. Since the R will need to be insured and serviced, that too is a consideration. There's something to be said for each, however on balance I'd reckon if forking out thousands isn't something you can easily afford in the sense you could do other things with the money which are important to you you're better off with the P. Since most of us (me included) fall in that bracket, I got one!
Interesting that you used the word "worth." The Pagani is certainly "worth" 75 euros but is the Rolex really "worth" 15K euros? "Worth" and "cost" are not necessarily interchangeable words.
I bought this watch from Amazon for $86. It came in 3 days and has been keeping accurate time for the past month. If it only lasts a year, I will just buy 200 more and wear each one for a year. Since I am 70 years old this will leave Pagani Design watches for probably the next 5 generations of my family. A luxury watchmaker once said you only own their watch to pass on to the next generation. Well, I will have done them 5 times better.
Yep, that's a fine plan 👍. From experience these watches last much more than a year. The bracelets are their weak points but that can be replaced no problem 👍
I have it on now. It keeps perfect time. If I am moving around a lot it might lose 10 seconds a day. If I am lazy and lie around just watching tv it will lose a minute every couple of days. I just hand wind it and top it off. No complaints.
The differences definitely show the Rolex to be of better quality, but those minute detail differences dont justify the $15,000 price. I'll take the Pagani Homage, save the $14, 850 and that should help me deal with living without the platinum numbers and a thin sliver of white gold on around the face indentions on my watch.
I think if you told people who don't know watches how much the Rolex cost and then asked them to tell you how much the PD cost they would guess something much higher than the actual price. It is amazing to me that the Chinese brands can get this close for such a low price.
If these two had the same price and status I would prefer the Pagani because it has a cool caseback. The other differences are almost irrelevant to the naked eye and non watch enthusiasts.
Iam actually impressed with the Pagani one. I mean for 75 € it looks really not bad. Edit: Actually the Pagani copys an older model of the GMT thats why the hands are different.
Bought the Pagani on a Jubilee bracelet with the updated Seiko NH35. The watch arrived damaged with the top of the lugs marked. The bracelet was also poor being very light so I bought the Pagani Oyster bracelet (£14). You get what you pay for. The biggest issue I had however was the alignment of the dial. It was poorly misaligned making the bezel even more pronounced offline. The bezel action had lots of back play and was easily accidentally moved as there was little resistance. The lume was also naff. I’ve had several Pagani watches in the past and they’ve been ok. Sadly this was the worst I’ve ever owned. Just hope it was a bad batch because QC should have picked up the many flaws.
It's only worth $15.000 because people are crazy enough to buy it for that amount. Literally crazy. The intrinsic value of a Rolex watch is only a very small fraction of the retail price.
@@Horologique I'd rather buy a watch from a brand that doesn't spend so much on advertising as you're the one paying for it. A Rolex Sub should cost about $1500 if you correct the price for inflation since the 50s.
@@RJ-cq8dd totally, however with standards being different today (Roger's endorsement ain't cheap) I can get that they crank up the price to 5k, more is just ridiculous
To be honest I think it really depends on the person whether he can carry out the class of Rolex even if he is just wearing a Pagani. So I decided to buy a Pagani last week. lol
Good idea to compare the Rolys to some of their homages. Would be great to reiterate the subject with some other models from SanMartin range of homages.
I owned Rolex watches for over a decade. I came to a point where I realized what a sucker I was, to continue giving so much value to a brand name. Rolex is stuck in the dark ages. Technology has come so far, but yet they have not advanced. I am a huge fan of the quality of work that these counterfeiters are able to do, based on their minuscule budgets. I also love the fact that I can buy all the watch making tools I want, and buy these Faux-lex watches and build my own Frankenstein watches. I can build multiple watches, and own all the tools I need, and still have money left over for a dirt bike. 😂
@@xHighRoller I will say it again, and it never gets old. Compare the iPhone's history and technological advancements. Plot a timeline and an income chart. Compare all the numbers. Compare the amount of micro machining, and micro manufacturing, to the total net income from each product, and then try to tell me that there is any sane reason why the Rolex is still selling for over $1000.
I've actually seen many macro shots of Rolex GMTs where the paint-job at the join of the "stick" & the "arrow head" of the GMT hand was a complete mess.
Yes I've seen thiose videos, Horology House among them, however his credibility has been seriously compromised. What we see here in super macro is much better finish at that level, although not as good as we could expect at that price point.
I ordered two months ago Pagani Design PD-1662, and I'm very satisfied with it. Two days ago, I ordered one more, Pagani Design PD-1651, and I'm waiting to arrive. Beautiful mechanism, and stylish watches to wear daily, in every suit combination! I recommend it.
I have a Parnis daytona with a black dial and steel bezel. Cost me $75 on eBay and has a mechaquartz movement. The subdial seconds tick but the second hand has a sweeping motion when the chronograph is turned on. I would looooove to have the Rolex original version as it’s my grail, but for the quality, the feel on the wrist, and just the looks.. I’m more than happy with my parnis ❤️ these watches give us the look without breaking the bank, and without being a fake by putting Rolex anywhere on the watch. The Batman isn’t too my liking I like the coke and Pepsi more but for the price you really can’t beat that pagani! Cheers !
You are welcome! I was planning on pitting it against the San Martin GMT and maybe the Steinhart, but from my POV the Steinhart disqualifies itself with the lack of bidirectional bezel
@@Horologique well I wouldn’t mind seeing the Steinhart comparison myself. I think it would be useful to most people. That is a small thing for a value watch, but granted it’s a major thing for a luxury watch.
Interesting, will it help me make my mind up if I should upgrade or not..LOL. I was quite impressed with my pagani GMT, a little AR and a bit of smoothing on the clasp to get rid of the sharp edges and it would be fantastic.
It's not bad at all for the money but then again, you get a bit more than what you pay for with those nice specks. But I really believe the San Martin and Cronos will be 3 notches above, I'll test at least the SM against it
One problem with the Pagani Design homage watches is the date window magnifies the date too much, making it hard to read. This is obvious every time you look at the watch, so if you don't mind that, go for it. Kind of looks like a Rolex, cheap but fairly accurate Seiko movement, which may be better than the Asian copies of the Rolex movement.
I believe in paying money for quality. I do. But that is a ratio, not a nominal figure. Pagani design is not the very best of the homages, but it is up there near the best. And they sell these sapphire crystal, automatic 2100, 316L stainless cased watches..for less than a hundred bucks. Sure the actual Rolex is better. But is it $15,000 better? No way. That's about $2000 for the quality, and $13000 for the name, so you can impress your friends. Further, it is better in areas that really don't matter. A 4HZ movement (I assume) instead of 3HZ...so your second hand beats 8 times every second instead of 6? Listen, you have a better eye than me if you can put a 4hz and a 3hz watch side to side and see the difference. White gold around the indices instead of stainless? Yes, you will remember such things every time you look at your watch...for about the first two weeks. Then, as soon as the honeymoon is over you will never think of it again. But you WILL be thinking of the 15 grand on your credit card for a LONG time to come. I COULD spend 15 or even 30 grand for a Rolex right now, as soon as I finish typing this. I am not wealthy. Anyone with decent credit could do that. There is a credit card in my wallet that COULD spend that kind of money right now, so I could do it without even having to apply for a new loan. But I JUST DON'T SEE the value I would get in return. I could buy a Rolex, but I won't buy a Rolex. I have a submariner homage made by steeldive. I actually have the homage watch featured in this video (Mine is the Pepsi). The most expensive piece in my collection is an $800 Hamilton (beautiful watch, by the way). I am going to the beach soon, and when I dive in the ocean, bet that I will have a Vostok on my wrist. I BUY WATCHES! I have access to 15 grand in credit. I am a watch collector. Hell, let's be honest, I am a watch addict. I am the guy that will buy your watch, if he sees the quality ratio. So Rolex...come on buddy...SHOW ME 15 grand worth of watch someday, and I am the guy that will buy that. But I have not seen it yet.
While there are features of the Rolex that I would like, the 24 click bezel is a deal breaker for me. 120 clicks lets me use it as a minute tracker OR a time zone tracker. 24 is only good for time zones. These kinds of "you will use it the way we intended or not at all" decisions are why I choose Microsoft and Google over Apple. While the internal mechanisms are technically superior, the interfaces are unusable.
How could you find a pagani design gmt with with so good dimensions of the crown? Every video or picture I see on the Internet the crown is usually more bulky and stands out
If Pagani improves 5x times and makes similar to rolex ,will pagago sell at Rolex price or will rolex have to sell at Pagani's price? What is the price you think both will offer then?
Rolex is not expensive because of its quality, Rolex is expensive because of its brand prestige and because people are queuing up for years to buy their watches. No matter how much Pagani or to be more in line Omega up their quality people will always want Rolex because of the prestige associated with it
It’s pretty clear with all these comparisons and with my own experience, Rolexes and most of high end watches are just not worth these inflated prices. It’s really a matter of rich folks having so much money it has no value to them but to the sellers, resellers , and marketing folks the Rolexes are worth all the money they can glean from their prey. Go figure.
Thank you very much mate! Yes I watched your video, good one! These companies are giving Seiko fans what they dreamt for decades: a hacking and hand winding SKX 😊
Have you looked at the Phylida Batman GMT? It is around the same price at the Pagani, but better quality (including a bidirectional and lumed bezel, for example).
I've got a Pagani Design Daytona homage. The bracelet and clasp are what make me not wear it much. Clasp has sharp edges, I've actually scraped and scratched myself with it before, and the bracelet squeaks when it's moving around. I need a better bracelet for it, the stuff it comes with is terrible. Head of the watch is great though.
Best comparision! I have the Pagani Batman, so much more of them and I would never pay the price for a Rolex!! But Rolex is still the best! Now I prefer Tandorio watches with Seiko NH or PT 5000 clockwork! They all are of a very good quality and so beautiful cheap! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😉😎
I know Rolex did all the hard work designing the watch, but the Pagani does look remarkably good even when compared in macro! I would imagine the difference feels greater when holding and using the watches. The Chinese can make extremely good watches for ridiculously little money, I just wish they would move onto original designs, as I would never wear an homage.
.... and that's why you mustn't forget to always carry a 10x loupe when you leave the house with your Rolex on wrist... ;) Seriously though: I think, perspective-wise, that's one of the best macro-shots of the bezel insert I've seen. Really lets you see just how precise the numerals are etched/cut into that Rolex bezel. Is all that worth €9,000 MSRP or even €15,000 to 20,000 on the grey market? I don't think so. I think Rolex has overdone it quite a bit WRT pricing - back in the day they were still expensive objects, but nowhere near as expensive as they are today (compared to an average income). Always interesting (or frustrating) to see old sales receipts from the 60s, 70s or 80s, then using a purchasing power calculator to find that, for example, a GMT Master in 1960 cost you around $1,000 in today's money.
I know mate, it's awfully frustrating 😤. And the best part especially of those 60s Rolexes is that they could and some were used as tools. Indeed, nothing justifies those 9k price tags but the luxury positioning of today. And yes, the market tells us that even if Rolex rose those prices to 15k people would still buy them 😱
I can't understand why anyone wants to wear a knock off of a watch they can't afford/don't want to spend the $ on. There's a ton of great watches for very reasonable cost that are unique looking, or at least not a knock off. In my view, there's a difference between an homage, a knock off, and a copy. Some seem to use "homage" and knock off interchangeably. I don't.
I also saw imperfections on the indices of the rolex. The difference under the macro is not big. It is almost non existent. The only downside is the thickness of the pagani. This video is one more proof that rolex is a hugely overpiced brand that does not worth the money they ask.
When you have them in hand you can feel the huge difference, but nothing like the price difference would suggest. I agree with you, at over twice the retail price most Rolexes are hugely overpriced. If you can get them at retail it's better, but still too expensive (even though I bought this one at retail 😁)
Rolex started as a marketing company for Swiss watches in London, and still are a marketing company that make watches as a sideline (vastly over priced watches) worth nothing like there retail price.
You only highlight the bad, you can wear this every day unlike Rolex for feel of it being scratched, it would have been nice to have done a time comparison. after all its a watch.
The Rolex is way over priced. I think the Rolex should cost $3500 and at that price it’s profitable for the company. That watch is not worth 15k not even it it were platinum. Sure it’s a quality made piece but don’t be so sure about the ultra quality. There is another you tube video that shows a Rolex gmt Pepsi colors under the microscope and the hands are imperfect , the paint is off and there is lint and dust under the glass. The grand seiko beat the Rolex in those details. Pagani design can achieve such a nice design for $100 or so that’s more impressive. And now Pagani Design uses the seiko NH34 GMT movement.
That's very well said! Rolex is fat from perfect and I believe like you that these well made, but mass produced objects should cost no more than 3 or 4k.
Most guys the end up buying a Rolex don't end up using like a watch like it's intended they might wear it when they get dressed up or when they go out to dinner but they're not wearing it to a job everyday most of them are afraid to scratch them they bought them as an investment
I think Pagani is lowkey clowning Rolex, saying, you’re just an overhyped stainless steel watch. When you have two watches that look exactly the same, but one is worth $15,000 and the other $90… you dumb to pay $15,000. Granted when you buy a Rolex you’re buying status and making a statement backed by a prestigious name, but at the end of the day, it’s a stainless steel watch. Now if it was a gold Rolex, no problem, but $10,000 plus for stain less steel 🤷🏻♂️, it doesn’t make sense.
Technically speaking you just reviewed a Rolex "Batgirl" Vs a Pagani designs "Batman". The Rolex "Batman" has an Oyster Bracelet. I do believe Pagani designs do both bracelets on their models.
@@Horologique Just mentioned it so others watching your video know the difference rather than calling Pagani designs out for not having the correct bracelet. Great video on the comparison between the two and I am glad someone is doing videos like this as not everyone can afford a genuine Rolex but love the design of them. Pagani designs seem to be one of the better companies honouring the design.
At the end of the day, when you buy a 10.000€ Rolex, you will have a watch worth 10.000 or more. If you buy a 75€ Pagani Design, you will have a watch worth 75 or less. You cannot fool yourself. IIn both cases you do nothing wrong
If I were millionaire I would buy the Rolex 100% because I don't want my fellow millionaires laughing at me, or because I want to show off my wealth, not because I think is worth the price. Besides I would have so much money I don't care about wasting it on an overpriced watch. That money is less than the money I spend on a single night while on vacations.
I can tell after buying one of these GMT watches my movement stopped after 1 day.. then they send me a new one and it also stopped working few days later. Now they wont send me a new one because they want me to send the watches back first... which makes no sense compared to the cost of sending them back. DO NOT BUY... SAVE UR CASH HONESTLY... If they ever change their movement give it a shot.. but the current one is a big big no go.
I totally agree that when buying watches at these prices a lot can go wrong, especially with these untested movements. That's why I put them in the negatives. I've had 3 of them that still work (not keeping COSC of course) but as your feedback shows they are not truly reliable
I picked one up for 75 dollars, been wearing it to work every day for the past month, so far it has not gained or lost a single minute and no scratches on the crystal or bezel. Definitely worth the money....
What model do you use?
Does it still work a year later?
@@TheVeeginator remember you can replace pegani 200 times for the price of he rolex
Got mine for couple of days and +20s a day. But for the price it is amazing watch
Mine loses whole half hours on the hour. Pagani design is a waste of money and they have no customer service. They just keep sending coupons towards my next purchase.
After watching this video I'm very happy with my Pagani Design watch
Lol, you and I both 💜
Me too. I have it on right now. Of course, there are many elements of the finishing that are better than the Pagani. But there is nothing that justifies a $15,000+ difference on price. Rolex is wildly overpriced and overrated. I got my Pagani for $65. Two things do bug me. The cyclops magnification is too big and it’s hard to read. And the metal band was too big for me at the smallest I could make it. So I switched to a silicone band. I might try silver mesh. But I love the watch.
I have NH34 Pagani GMT Pepsi ❤ & a GMT Tudor. Love both as well
@@Apex_Apeq Check out the Root Beer version. Its beautiful.
Taking the prices into considerations along with the quality, the Pagani is much more impressive. 200x price difference and you'd struggle to find real differences without a macro lens.
They are both my watches and under macro as you can see the Rolex is better but absolutely not 200 times better, maybe twice as good
The Rolex is definitely 5 times better. 5 x 75 = 375 🤔
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let’s make it 500 even, I’d pay double price for the Rolex brand 1000, say 15000? Nah
Yup! The Rolex may be worth a solid $300.
Your math is correct, but there's a bit more to the full pictured. The R will appreciate in value immediately by 5k due to the wait list. You could therefore sell it, buy several Ps and keep the difference. You would never get back what you paid for the P however since you paid next to nothing for it, that's probably not a bother to you, and in time you can of course do a lot of other things with the money you paid for the R long term. Since the R will need to be insured and serviced, that too is a consideration. There's something to be said for each, however on balance I'd reckon if forking out thousands isn't something you can easily afford in the sense you could do other things with the money which are important to you you're better off with the P. Since most of us (me included) fall in that bracket, I got one!
Interesting that you used the word "worth." The Pagani is certainly "worth" 75 euros but is the Rolex really "worth" 15K euros? "Worth" and "cost" are not necessarily interchangeable words.
I bought this watch from Amazon for $86. It came in 3 days and has been keeping accurate time for the past month. If it only lasts a year, I will just buy 200 more and wear each one for a year. Since I am 70 years old this will leave Pagani Design watches for probably the next 5 generations of my family. A luxury watchmaker once said you only own their watch to pass on to the next generation. Well, I will have done them 5 times better.
Yep, that's a fine plan 👍. From experience these watches last much more than a year. The bracelets are their weak points but that can be replaced no problem 👍
Does it still work 10 months later?
I have it on now. It keeps perfect time. If I am moving around a lot it might lose 10 seconds a day. If I am lazy and lie around just watching tv it will lose a minute every couple of days. I just hand wind it and top it off. No complaints.
@@Sowhat300 thanks!
Excellent reasoning
The differences definitely show the Rolex to be of better quality, but those minute detail differences dont justify the $15,000 price. I'll take the Pagani Homage, save the $14, 850 and that should help me deal with living without the platinum numbers and a thin sliver of white gold on around the face indentions on my watch.
I couldn't have said it better 👍👍
Pigani is so much of a watch in price compared to the rolex. The new homage watches is where it's at!!
Me too!!
after 10 years you can take the rolex back for service costing $1000.00 just to clean and oil it.
And if you really must have the better quality, you can get a Steinhart or Davosa
I think if you told people who don't know watches how much the Rolex cost and then asked them to tell you how much the PD cost they would guess something much higher than the actual price. It is amazing to me that the Chinese brands can get this close for such a low price.
Totally right! I'm waiting to get the San Martin GMT and then we'll see what happens when the best out of China 😊
@@Horologique how was the san Martin thinking about buying one
us vs china WWIII
Another way to look at it is how has Rolex manage to sell so little for so much.
If these two had the same price and status I would prefer the Pagani because it has a cool caseback. The other differences are almost irrelevant to the naked eye and non watch enthusiasts.
Iam actually impressed with the Pagani one. I mean for 75 € it looks really not bad. Edit: Actually the Pagani copys an older model of the GMT thats why the hands are different.
Bought the Pagani on a Jubilee bracelet with the updated Seiko NH35. The watch arrived damaged with the top of the lugs marked. The bracelet was also poor being very light so I bought the Pagani Oyster bracelet (£14). You get what you pay for. The biggest issue I had however was the alignment of the dial. It was poorly misaligned making the bezel even more pronounced offline. The bezel action had lots of back play and was easily accidentally moved as there was little resistance. The lume was also naff. I’ve had several Pagani watches in the past and they’ve been ok. Sadly this was the worst I’ve ever owned. Just hope it was a bad batch because QC should have picked up the many flaws.
Did you get a replacement?
It's only worth $15.000 because people are crazy enough to buy it for that amount. Literally crazy.
The intrinsic value of a Rolex watch is only a very small fraction of the retail price.
I totally agree with you. Honestly, if you coint6in the labou cost, materials , advertising, etc, this is a 5k watch, no more
@@Horologique I'd rather buy a watch from a brand that doesn't spend so much on advertising as you're the one paying for it. A Rolex Sub should cost about $1500 if you correct the price for inflation since the 50s.
@@RJ-cq8dd totally, however with standards being different today (Roger's endorsement ain't cheap) I can get that they crank up the price to 5k, more is just ridiculous
Totally agree,I have bought and sold high watches,and there no different from a £100 watch!!
The 13.5mm thickness melts away on a jubilee bracelet though. The oyster makes it feel heavier
To be honest I think it really depends on the person whether he can carry out the class of Rolex even if he is just wearing a Pagani. So I decided to buy a Pagani last week. lol
The watch doesn't make the man, the man makes the watch 👌
Pagani, all day.
I'm so sick of these watches that cost over $5K. There is no reason for it except to swindle consumers.
After watching this comparison both , my decision Pagani much better with the price. People choosing buying Rolex only for prestige not for the Time.
Good idea to compare the Rolys to some of their homages.
Would be great to reiterate the subject with some other models from SanMartin range of homages.
Stay tuned my friend... 😉
Jubilee Bracelet may help contribute to the Fit being better as well as other reasons.
Yes, much higher quality among them 😁
Brilliant comparison mate. Love this idea, seeing the homage next to the real deal is a real treat
Thank you very much Jason! Stick around for part 2 😉
Interestingly , my PD1662 does not have the EXPLORER text on the dial. I believe this makes it the newer improved version.
It does! I wonder if the lume is better 🤔
@@Horologique the loom is not great on this one.
@@neilwhite8131 😔
I owned Rolex watches for over a decade. I came to a point where I realized what a sucker I was, to continue giving so much value to a brand name. Rolex is stuck in the dark ages. Technology has come so far, but yet they have not advanced. I am a huge fan of the quality of work that these counterfeiters are able to do, based on their minuscule budgets. I also love the fact that I can buy all the watch making tools I want, and buy these Faux-lex watches and build my own Frankenstein watches. I can build multiple watches, and own all the tools I need, and still have money left over for a dirt bike. 😂
Only Rolex i has is a Vintage Day Date
all my other watches Pagani 🤣 bc the Day Date is my 'Night Out' Watch
@@xHighRoller I will say it again, and it never gets old. Compare the iPhone's history and technological advancements. Plot a timeline and an income chart. Compare all the numbers. Compare the amount of micro machining, and micro manufacturing, to the total net income from each product, and then try to tell me that there is any sane reason why the Rolex is still selling for over $1000.
I've actually seen many macro shots of Rolex GMTs where the paint-job at the join of the "stick" & the "arrow head" of the GMT hand was a complete mess.
Yes I've seen thiose videos, Horology House among them, however his credibility has been seriously compromised.
What we see here in super macro is much better finish at that level, although not as good as we could expect at that price point.
I ordered two months ago Pagani Design PD-1662, and I'm very satisfied with it. Two days ago, I ordered one more, Pagani Design PD-1651, and I'm waiting to arrive. Beautiful mechanism, and stylish watches to wear daily, in every suit combination! I recommend it.
I'm really glad, it's REALLY about the enjoyment you get from your timepieces and nothing else, no matter what everyone else says 👍👍
Most interesting comparison I have seen in ages. Love it
Thank you!
Just purchased mine for $109. Seems like their popularity raised the price.
Wait for the 11.11 sale!
These Pagani watches make you think that Rolex Omega are committing a premeditated robbery with their prices surprising everyone....😡😡😡😡😡
If you need a loop to see 14.900 difference I'll pass on the extra 14,900 dollars.....
Me To.
excellent point
I agree
Me too
I have a Parnis daytona with a black dial and steel bezel. Cost me $75 on eBay and has a mechaquartz movement. The subdial seconds tick but the second hand has a sweeping motion when the chronograph is turned on. I would looooove to have the Rolex original version as it’s my grail, but for the quality, the feel on the wrist, and just the looks.. I’m more than happy with my parnis ❤️ these watches give us the look without breaking the bank, and without being a fake by putting Rolex anywhere on the watch. The Batman isn’t too my liking I like the coke and Pepsi more but for the price you really can’t beat that pagani! Cheers !
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OK, so we can see the differences under a microscope; well at 200 times cheaper, I'll live with it.
Thanks for the video, what other watches are you planning to compare against the rolo?
You are welcome! I was planning on pitting it against the San Martin GMT and maybe the Steinhart, but from my POV the Steinhart disqualifies itself with the lack of bidirectional bezel
@@Horologique I agree, steinhart is out of the game.
Nice watches though, but to me they are steinhart...
@@Horologique well I wouldn’t mind seeing the Steinhart comparison myself. I think it would be useful to most people. That is a small thing for a value watch, but granted it’s a major thing for a luxury watch.
Interesting, will it help me make my mind up if I should upgrade or not..LOL. I was quite impressed with my pagani GMT, a little AR and a bit of smoothing on the clasp to get rid of the sharp edges and it would be fantastic.
It's not bad at all for the money but then again, you get a bit more than what you pay for with those nice specks. But I really believe the San Martin and Cronos will be 3 notches above, I'll test at least the SM against it
One problem with the Pagani Design homage watches is the date window magnifies the date too much, making it hard to read. This is obvious every time you look at the watch, so if you don't mind that, go for it. Kind of looks like a Rolex, cheap but fairly accurate Seiko movement, which may be better than the Asian copies of the Rolex movement.
Yes, that's true. I'm really glad they put a Seiko NH34 in there in the latest versions
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You should compare San Martin to Rolex or Pagani. PD it's far away in terms of quality vs San Martin.
Absolutely, that's coming, don't worry, stay tuned 😉
Does it tell the time? If yes, job done.
When you compare the Rolex jubilee batman with the Pagani batman jubilee. Does the Rolex shine more?
Slightly, it especially has much better finish though
I believe in paying money for quality. I do. But that is a ratio, not a nominal figure. Pagani design is not the very best of the homages, but it is up there near the best. And they sell these sapphire crystal, automatic 2100, 316L stainless cased watches..for less than a hundred bucks.
Sure the actual Rolex is better. But is it $15,000 better? No way. That's about $2000 for the quality, and $13000 for the name, so you can impress your friends.
Further, it is better in areas that really don't matter. A 4HZ movement (I assume) instead of 3HZ...so your second hand beats 8 times every second instead of 6? Listen, you have a better eye than me if you can put a 4hz and a 3hz watch side to side and see the difference. White gold around the indices instead of stainless? Yes, you will remember such things every time you look at your watch...for about the first two weeks. Then, as soon as the honeymoon is over you will never think of it again. But you WILL be thinking of the 15 grand on your credit card for a LONG time to come.
I COULD spend 15 or even 30 grand for a Rolex right now, as soon as I finish typing this. I am not wealthy. Anyone with decent credit could do that. There is a credit card in my wallet that COULD spend that kind of money right now, so I could do it without even having to apply for a new loan. But I JUST DON'T SEE the value I would get in return. I could buy a Rolex, but I won't buy a Rolex.
I have a submariner homage made by steeldive. I actually have the homage watch featured in this video (Mine is the Pepsi). The most expensive piece in my collection is an $800 Hamilton (beautiful watch, by the way). I am going to the beach soon, and when I dive in the ocean, bet that I will have a Vostok on my wrist. I BUY WATCHES!
I have access to 15 grand in credit. I am a watch collector. Hell, let's be honest, I am a watch addict. I am the guy that will buy your watch, if he sees the quality ratio. So Rolex...come on buddy...SHOW ME 15 grand worth of watch someday, and I am the guy that will buy that.
But I have not seen it yet.
While there are features of the Rolex that I would like, the 24 click bezel is a deal breaker for me. 120 clicks lets me use it as a minute tracker OR a time zone tracker. 24 is only good for time zones. These kinds of "you will use it the way we intended or not at all" decisions are why I choose Microsoft and Google over Apple. While the internal mechanisms are technically superior, the interfaces are unusable.
That's an interesting point of view. I actually use my 24 hour bezels as counters as well, it needs a bit of adapting but it's possible
How could you find a pagani design gmt with with so good dimensions of the crown?
Every video or picture I see on the Internet the crown is usually more bulky and stands out
If Pagani improves 5x times and makes similar to rolex ,will pagago sell at Rolex price or will rolex have to sell at Pagani's price? What is the price you think both will offer then?
Rolex is not expensive because of its quality, Rolex is expensive because of its brand prestige and because people are queuing up for years to buy their watches. No matter how much Pagani or to be more in line Omega up their quality people will always want Rolex because of the prestige associated with it
It’s pretty clear with all these comparisons and with my own experience, Rolexes and most of high end watches are just not worth these inflated prices. It’s really a matter of rich folks having so much money it has no value to them but to the sellers, resellers , and marketing folks the Rolexes are worth all the money they can glean from their prey. Go figure.
Just a small indication that Rolex is a bit overpriced.....😉 Rolex is an investment, Pagani is a watch.
Buy Pagani as watch..the rest 10.000$ investment BTC...
See u in 2030
A Big difference in price tho. Overall quality of Pigani NOT BAD at all. Give credit to made in China
Nice video mate. It's always good to see how these homages compare to the 'real deal'. I've just done a similar kind of video for the SKX myself.
Thank you very much mate! Yes I watched your video, good one! These companies are giving Seiko fans what they dreamt for decades: a hacking and hand winding SKX 😊
Give Pagani Design another couple of years and their watches will be nearly as good as Rolex at a hundredth of the price.
I'm more interested in the power reserve. What's the Pagani's power reserve?
It's around 40hr
@@Horologique Well that's a lot more than the fake watches sold on holiday.
But what’s the difference between the pagani gmt and the “ no logo “ homage
Have you looked at the Phylida Batman GMT? It is around the same price at the Pagani, but better quality (including a bidirectional and lumed bezel, for example).
I have and I sent it back because it came with a quality control issue. But they have done quiet good things lately, I might give it another try 😉
I love how Rolex writes essays on their watch dials.
As does Tudor 😂
I've got a Pagani Design Daytona homage. The bracelet and clasp are what make me not wear it much. Clasp has sharp edges, I've actually scraped and scratched myself with it before, and the bracelet squeaks when it's moving around. I need a better bracelet for it, the stuff it comes with is terrible. Head of the watch is great though.
Do these Pagani automatics have audible rotor/winder noise? I hate it when I'm wearing an automatic and can hear the rotor rotating.
No not really, not like a Miyota movement
@@Horologique So you're saying the Pagani rotor is silent (or very near it)?
@@Autos389 it didn't strike me as noisy when I had it
@@Horologique If you put your ear close to it can you hear it?
@@Autos389yes, you can hear it clearly if you put it close to your ears
Best comparision! I have the Pagani Batman, so much more of them and I would never pay the price for a Rolex!! But Rolex is still the best! Now I prefer Tandorio watches with Seiko NH or PT 5000 clockwork! They all are of a very good quality and so beautiful cheap! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😉😎
Thank you so much 👍
I really liked the comparison....thank you for an interesting video
You are absolutely welcome, thank you for your nice comment!
Part 2 is coming very soon!
@@Horologique Terrific, I will absolutely make sure to watch!
Rolex's thickness is just superb.
The Pagani is awesome I own three
I know Rolex did all the hard work designing the watch, but the Pagani does look remarkably good even when compared in macro! I would imagine the difference feels greater when holding and using the watches. The Chinese can make extremely good watches for ridiculously little money, I just wish they would move onto original designs, as I would never wear an homage.
I totally understand and I was exactly like you ubtil6I received my San Martin Hulk. And I was astounded.
Thanks for the interesting comparison. The Pagani is worth the money. But is the Rolex worth the money?
That's very interesting that you say that! We'll have to see in Part 2 of the review 😉
exactly, Rolex is Rolex but way over priced
.... and that's why you mustn't forget to always carry a 10x loupe when you leave the house with your Rolex on wrist... ;)
Seriously though: I think, perspective-wise, that's one of the best macro-shots of the bezel insert I've seen. Really lets you see just how precise the numerals are etched/cut into that Rolex bezel.
Is all that worth €9,000 MSRP or even €15,000 to 20,000 on the grey market? I don't think so. I think Rolex has overdone it quite a bit WRT pricing - back in the day they were still expensive objects, but nowhere near as expensive as they are today (compared to an average income). Always interesting (or frustrating) to see old sales receipts from the 60s, 70s or 80s, then using a purchasing power calculator to find that, for example, a GMT Master in 1960 cost you around $1,000 in today's money.
I know mate, it's awfully frustrating 😤.
And the best part especially of those 60s Rolexes is that they could and some were used as tools.
Indeed, nothing justifies those 9k price tags but the luxury positioning of today. And yes, the market tells us that even if Rolex rose those prices to 15k people would still buy them 😱
Which one is the most accurate?
🤣According to you 🤣🤣?
@@Horologique what?
question pls what is the benefits or what are the uses of the bazel rotation ????
In the case of GMT watches like this ones the bezel is there to measure another time zone
@@Horologique for example ???
6:19 It is quite surprising that the Pagani gmt indexes can be taken seriously even from such a close range.
Crazy right?
if you buy the rolex do you gain more "time" or your "time" gets better?
If you need to take that close of a look to find justification for the price difference, PG wins. I'm not paying gray market prices. No freakin way.
I can't understand why anyone wants to wear a knock off of a watch they can't afford/don't want to spend the $ on. There's a ton of great watches for very reasonable cost that are unique looking, or at least not a knock off. In my view, there's a difference between an homage, a knock off, and a copy. Some seem to use "homage" and knock off interchangeably. I don't.
Dommage que tu la pas faire sur la chaîne fr
Ma chaîne française n'existait pas encore quand j'ai fait cette vidéo 😊
@@Horologique ah ok je vais visionner en sous titre 😊
Came here to talk myself out of buying a Pagani Design...and ended up having the opposite effect.
I'm really glad 😂😂😂
By Rolex you paid only for the name, not for the quality
Where can I purchase the pagani
Check the link in the description 😉
I am enjoying this comparison and looking forward to part two. Your Rolex is amazing and this video demonstrates why.
Thank you VERY much for your encouragements my friend, they are always heartwarming 😊😊
I also saw imperfections on the indices of the rolex. The difference under the macro is not big. It is almost non existent. The only downside is the thickness of the pagani. This video is one more proof that rolex is a hugely overpiced brand that does not worth the money they ask.
When you have them in hand you can feel the huge difference, but nothing like the price difference would suggest. I agree with you, at over twice the retail price most Rolexes are hugely overpriced. If you can get them at retail it's better, but still too expensive (even though I bought this one at retail 😁)
The cyclops is the worst part about the Pagani. Other than that, they look identical.
Rolex started as a marketing company for Swiss watches in London, and still are a marketing company that make watches as a sideline (vastly over priced watches) worth nothing like there retail price.
@@daviddrew7624 there's some truth in that statement.
Jubilee just doesn't look right in black blue. Don't understand why.
I kinda like it 😊
As far as I'm concerned, they are two pieces of iron and that one costs 15,000 dollars seems crazy to me.
Are the chapter rings the same size????
You only highlight the bad, you can wear this every day unlike Rolex for feel of it being scratched, it would have been nice to have done a time comparison. after all its a watch.
just sold a GMT2 rolsor 116713,after seeing this might just by a pagani👍
That is an epic declaration, thank you Giovanni 👍
I won’t buy Pagani but watchdives, steeldive or San Martin is better. The round size is too big that looks not perfect
The Pagani is becoming so good now that very soon you'll be able to purchase a Pagani homage made by Rolex.
watching this with my parnis pepsi gmt on the wrist.
When you look at these w side by side is hard to justify the extra 9k or more for the Rolex other than to say look it’s a Rolex , that’s who I am. lol
Obv the Rolex is much better, but 200x? Despite side by side I still don’t see it
Neither do I 👍
You missed to compare the hands luminous power
Yep, I forgot! I didn't forget when I compared the Rolex Kermit to the San Martin here:
ruclips.net/video/OT7FVXlQadU/видео.html
The Rolex is way over priced. I think the Rolex should cost $3500 and at that price it’s profitable for the company. That watch is not worth 15k not even it it were platinum. Sure it’s a quality made piece but don’t be so sure about the ultra quality. There is another you tube video that shows a Rolex gmt Pepsi colors under the microscope and the hands are imperfect , the paint is off and there is lint and dust under the glass. The grand seiko beat the Rolex in those details. Pagani design can achieve such a nice design for $100 or so that’s more impressive. And now Pagani Design uses the seiko NH34 GMT movement.
That's very well said! Rolex is fat from perfect and I believe like you that these well made, but mass produced objects should cost no more than 3 or 4k.
Most guys the end up buying a Rolex don't end up using like a watch like it's intended they might wear it when they get dressed up or when they go out to dinner but they're not wearing it to a job everyday most of them are afraid to scratch them they bought them as an investment
Different steal material, different movements, different quality, different price. The only similarities are one of them homage of another.
What a great video and comparison.
Thank you so much Ryan!! 👍👍👍
I think Pagani is lowkey clowning Rolex, saying, you’re just an overhyped stainless steel watch. When you have two watches that look exactly the same, but one is worth $15,000 and the other $90… you dumb to pay $15,000. Granted when you buy a Rolex you’re buying status and making a statement backed by a prestigious name, but at the end of the day, it’s a stainless steel watch. Now if it was a gold Rolex, no problem, but $10,000 plus for stain less steel 🤷🏻♂️, it doesn’t make sense.
more like comparing iphone vs xiaomi.. different is the name the value the brand..
Cool souvenir bus.....it says Baños....which is here...Ecuador...cheers!
Sí, yo soy de Ecuador 😁🇪🇨
@@Horologique serio....wow...nadie conoce esa marca Pagani design aqui....bien bro
@@abellustgarten4002 muchas gracias! Pues esperemos que llegue algún momento
My PARNIS does it all baby!
Nice looking forward
Thanks my friend, you are always really supportive 👍👍👍
Technically speaking you just reviewed a Rolex "Batgirl" Vs a Pagani designs "Batman". The Rolex "Batman" has an Oyster Bracelet. I do believe Pagani designs do both bracelets on their models.
Yes I know 😂
@@Horologique Just mentioned it so others watching your video know the difference rather than calling Pagani designs out for not having the correct bracelet. Great video on the comparison between the two and I am glad someone is doing videos like this as not everyone can afford a genuine Rolex but love the design of them. Pagani designs seem to be one of the better companies honouring the design.
Pagani forever!
Pagani ❤
.......I mean, I don't see a $15.000 to $23,000 difference. The value in Rolex is that you can't have one.
At the end of the day, when you buy a 10.000€ Rolex, you will have a watch worth 10.000 or more. If you buy a 75€ Pagani Design, you will have a watch worth 75 or less. You cannot fool yourself. IIn both cases you do nothing wrong
Totally, there's no wrong answer...if you get the chance to buy that Rolex at retail... 😢
well! its not like Rolex want you to have their watches anyway.
😂
If I were millionaire I would buy the Rolex 100% because I don't want my fellow millionaires laughing at me, or because I want to show off my wealth, not because I think is worth the price. Besides I would have so much money I don't care about wasting it on an overpriced watch. That money is less than the money I spend on a single night while on vacations.
I can tell after buying one of these GMT watches my movement stopped after 1 day.. then they send me a new one and it also stopped working few days later.
Now they wont send me a new one because they want me to send the watches back first... which makes no sense compared to the cost of sending them back.
DO NOT BUY... SAVE UR CASH HONESTLY...
If they ever change their movement give it a shot.. but the current one is a big big no go.
I totally agree that when buying watches at these prices a lot can go wrong, especially with these untested movements. That's why I put them in the negatives. I've had 3 of them that still work (not keeping COSC of course) but as your feedback shows they are not truly reliable
My Pagani gmt have Jubilee bracelet
Yes the newer versions do