Jacob Hellner - Behind "Ich tu dir weh" and its production process [reupload]

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2017
  • This is an abridged version of the free masterclass hosted by Jacob Hellner on the 28th of March, 2017, at the SAE Institute In Amsterdam. It contains the parts relevant to and about Rammstein.
    Keypoints:
    0:00:00 How he became the producer of Rammstein
    0:02:42 How he feels about rehearsal songs
    0:03:55 "Ich tu dir weh" session overview
    0:07:05 ITDW final version
    0:09:45 "How did you make the guitar sound?"
    0:10:40 Production tips
    0:11:30 Evolution of Christoph Schneider and drums
    0:13:43 Technical solutions for recording the drums
    0:14:14 DRUMS (Recording process and techniques + individual drum samples)
    0:48:32 BASS
    0:49:28 GUITARS part 1
    0:51:18 Description of Richard's recording machine from "Making of LIFAD"
    0:54:47 GUITARS part 2
    1:00:02 KEYBOARD
    1:03:51 VOCALS (beginning)
    1:04:06 "[Till]'s a singer, but he cannot sing. He's a great performer" - what Till also said this about himself in "Making of LIFAD"
    1:05:21 How he tracked Till
    1:06:00 First stanza, clean
    1:06:20 VOCALS (recording process)
    1:08:04 ITDW chorus discussion - "This chorus was a tricky one for him to do" (aka the reason why they playback the chorus during live performances)
    1:09:37 Chorus, clean - "The process of maybe 30 takes, over the course of 2-3 weeks"
    1:10:23 Chorus, backing vocals
    1:10:48 Ending remarks
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Комментарии • 47

  • @TheBboyjoakim
    @TheBboyjoakim 5 лет назад +40

    so nice to rest i peace knowing that he could sing the chorus naturally so beautiful without Autotune

    • @jappie.
      @jappie. 3 года назад

      And no play back like Puppe but you can suspect thad from a man with an age of 57

    • @JasonSchwickerath
      @JasonSchwickerath 3 года назад +3

      @@jappie. What do you mean with playback like Puppe? Lindemann doesn't use playback anymore. Puppe is comepletely live. The "Playback" you think of are Paul Landers and Richard Kruspe.

    • @wouterrrtjee
      @wouterrrtjee Год назад +10

      @@JasonSchwickerath The Chorrus of Puppe is playback! He messed up a few times with hiding the backing track! I dont blame him... he can sing it live but he will damage his voice...
      Even Radio is playback... but thats it from what i have seen...

    • @Nick_ID_1VFXArtist_und_Cutter
      @Nick_ID_1VFXArtist_und_Cutter Год назад

      @@wouterrrtjee Nah, Pupe includes Backingtracks, yes, but Radio? I could`nt think auf any Playback at Radio.

    • @Nick_ID_1VFXArtist_und_Cutter
      @Nick_ID_1VFXArtist_und_Cutter Год назад +2

      The chorus is playback at liveshows, but the first few concerts of the Lifad tour he sang it live helped by a backingtrack, you can hear his struggel, but I love his voice to infinity, I´d rather hear him live not hitting every note and uses workaround for some parts too hard for him to sing or demaging his voice, but it woud be real. But I can think that he is ashamed and doesnt want the blame, he in my opinion woud`nt deserve even with his little problems, he`s great!

  • @frantisekvtelensky820
    @frantisekvtelensky820 6 лет назад +9

    This is GOLD! Thanks for upload! :)

  • @EurocorpFx
    @EurocorpFx Год назад +4

    Man this is damn gold. I've really searched for such an overview. Thanks for the upload.

  • @sinuois
    @sinuois 3 года назад +5

    This video is pure gold.

  • @NHR_Music
    @NHR_Music 6 лет назад +2

    This video is really good.

  • @littleheart8136
    @littleheart8136 3 года назад +3

    1:03:20 It's a layer of two parts - orchestra strings and that "cloud" synth pad which they use live. I still can hear it but there is just a pad on the album version. But here we hear the strings mostly

  • @Stahlengelmusic
    @Stahlengelmusic 2 года назад

    Thank you for this video.

  • @daddyflake2545
    @daddyflake2545 4 года назад +1

    It is a masterpiece ❤️🔥

  • @sirriffsalot4158
    @sirriffsalot4158 3 года назад +18

    Lol at Jacob saying Till "can't sing". I'm sure that chorus took a lot of takes, but each individual note that he hits is clean, the glides are smooth, and the way he belts it out makes this song chorus-wise.

    • @zvxnstrxm
      @zvxnstrxm 2 года назад +1

      That's why he said that. Till can't get a good take everytime.

    • @sirriffsalot4158
      @sirriffsalot4158 2 года назад +2

      @@zvxnstrxm Hardly anyone can :P

  • @Casperawh
    @Casperawh 6 лет назад

    Why didnt I know this at that moment?! :0 I almost live in Amsterdam... aah

  • @user-hp5wy1om7c
    @user-hp5wy1om7c 2 года назад +1

    послушал через переводчик и все понял ( у нас есть у нас есть тоже что когда никогда) спасибо переводчик

  • @anatoly2453
    @anatoly2453 2 года назад +2

    Hello my friend! Can you tell me where I can get these courses? for money! thanks in advance.

  • @user-tu5is7tj9g
    @user-tu5is7tj9g 2 года назад

    Класс

  • @rashak2624
    @rashak2624 2 года назад

    Круто

  • @MalcolmTyrell
    @MalcolmTyrell 5 лет назад

    Between 49:10 - 49:15 Jacob mentions a distortion plugin, I can't hear what he's saying. Which plugin is that?

    • @ShadowReubenKee
      @ShadowReubenKee 5 лет назад

      He says "This I can send in to any distortion plug-in that I have."

  • @Stahlengelmusic
    @Stahlengelmusic Год назад +1

    Someone does understand what mic Til is using (1:05:30)?
    M149 or Tlm49?

    • @aleksanderdjuran8010
      @aleksanderdjuran8010 Год назад

      There's pictures from the era of Till in the studio with a TLM49, so it's probably that.

    • @Stahlengelmusic
      @Stahlengelmusic Год назад

      @@aleksanderdjuran8010 Thanks alot!

  • @gram440a
    @gram440a 5 лет назад +4

    Does anyone have more specific information about Rammstein using the SansAmp? Regarding settings, EQ, mods? He mentions some EQ here, but doesn't go into detail. I think I counted about 12 tracks of guitar on the screen at one point, I'd sure like to know what all that is. I'm looking for cool industrial metal settings for my GT2.

    • @usablejohn
      @usablejohn 5 лет назад +5

      For LIFAD studio session Paul used:
      - the PSA 1.1 unit
      - customized Metallica preset (no. 21) with boosted mids
      - first track fully recorded from direct signal (track volume proportion: 80%)
      - second track recorded with PSA 1.1 plugged into Mesa/Boogie Strategy 500 power amp with Mesa/Boogie 412 cab loaded with V30 speakers (track volume proportion: 20%)
      Richard used his well known Rectifier setup.

    • @gram440a
      @gram440a 5 лет назад +1

      @@usablejohn Wow that IS specific, thank you so much! Do you mind if I ask where you learned all that?

    • @usablejohn
      @usablejohn 5 лет назад +2

      @@gram440a Sure :) I know that from a guy who works in Sound Service Poland - official polish Tech21 distributor.

    • @gram440a
      @gram440a 5 лет назад +4

      @@usablejohn Cool! WHAT ELSE can I learn from you?

  • @theebraunnisofficial2138
    @theebraunnisofficial2138 3 года назад +4

    People laughed when they listen Till's back vocals but most of them can't even sing 😬

  • @rabbitnoize
    @rabbitnoize 2 года назад

    i wonder for the verse how many guitar tracks they layered

    • @Sick_Rat_The2nd
      @Sick_Rat_The2nd Год назад +1

      Probably 4, more wouldn’t even make sense just a bunch of phasing issues

  • @russellunknown884
    @russellunknown884 Год назад +2

    why doesent till really sing the chorus he does so good in recording here 1:09:37

    • @wouterrrtjee
      @wouterrrtjee Год назад +1

      It was very hard for him. Het just couldn't hit the notes live like this

    • @friedrichzizek6700
      @friedrichzizek6700 Год назад

      Because the producer said in the video that this was build together by 30 takes. Each takes on their own wasn’t good at all but he could small good parts here and there and forge a good sounding take out of it

  • @RockmannMusic
    @RockmannMusic 3 года назад +2

    A lot of yawning & coughing in a cave with a screen. I don't do public transport. Thank you very much

  • @bigtommy9715
    @bigtommy9715 2 года назад +4

    The chorus was sang live during most of 2009 that’s about it

    • @agenttud27
      @agenttud27  2 года назад +10

      Except it wasn't (for the most). Till struggled on the first 5 concerts, then they started using playback.

  • @PureFred
    @PureFred 3 года назад

    timestamps?