“That was my best friend. And you just killed him.” This moment in the movie will always live rent free in my head. Superman was absolutely ready to betray his morals just to avenge Batman. I mean, he held back the moment the meteor was blown up, but DAMN. The fear in Luthor’s face was on par with accidentally resurrecting Darkseid in JLU. I like it as a testament to his friendship with Batman, but at the same time, it was terrifying as a kid seeing Superman going rogue before Injustice and the nightmare sequences from BvS made me all numb and bored of it.
I really liked relationship between Batman and Superman here, it was great. Lex becoming a predator is weird but actually fits him being in power when you think about certain corporations.
Because superman was born with power he never asked for or wanted it doesn't go to his head, Because lex is born powerless and had to work for everything he feels entileted to and wants more.
@@mandalorianhunter1 I guess they were trying to explain how Lex became said predator? I mean, the disadvantage of the "hard work" mentality and all... But let's be real... it goes back to the 40 cakes he stole.
This was 1 of the few Movies I watched after Konroy's Death. The Friendship between Batman & Superman is almost perfect: My Favorite Lines: Bats: "Do me a Favor and Lose The Sense of Humor" *Trying to remove a Kryptonite Bullet off Clark* Supes: "Do us Both a Favor and Buy One" With a Big Smile while their also being attacked. 😊
@@dimsumboy22 Don't go there dude, just because someone messed up writing now and then does not mean they don't care. Alot of people get names wrong sometimes, don't be one of those fans that degrade other fands for not "being a big enough fan".
Anyway, swerving away from the guy who's being a dickhead above me -- This exact kind of banter between characters is why some of my favorite scenes in Batman/Superman media is Superman constantly pestering Batman to go eat somewhere with him. Farm boy just wants to go to the greasiest diners and drag his grumbling upper class co-worker/friend along.
@@conspiracypanda1200 A good foil character always does wonders, I grew up in the era where it is superhero vs superhero so it is nice to see some actually be friends. I remember one of my personal favorites is where Batman and Superman meet WonderWoman for the first time, it just feels like something real friends would do and I love it!
I guess the diffrence between batman and superman is Batman sees his job as a burden something he has to do for the good for his city. Superman sees helping people as an honor and enjoys everything about it. Superman unlike spiderman etc. Actually loves been a hero he often wants to be a normal person but he still loves his job
I think you're right, but that that's also why the two parallel and enjoy one another so much. Superman reminds Batman why what he does isn't just for vengeance. Batman reminds Superman that what he does isn't a burden... it's an honor, because he keeps human beings from having to take that burden themselves.
Batman at his core does the job because he believes no one else will. Superman at his core does the job because he can and he wants to. It's a subtle but poignant difference.
It is the differences between their looks on the job, but what makes them work so well together is that both have a obligation, and find the respect in each other's differences
'that was my best friend, and you just killed him' god idk how often i watched it but i loved this film as a kid lol that line's stuck with me for some reason.
There's an infinite amount of great things I can say about the returning voice cast, but man Clancy Brown just carries such gravitas with his performances and was the reason why Lex Luthor became my favourite comic book villain.
"That was my best friend, and YOU just killed him!" That line gave me chills as a kid, and still does. I love this movie, seeing the friendship between Batman and Superman is just awesome. But perhaps because I've watched it since I was a kid, I never bothered to look at it critically for the message and themes, and it was really cool to do that alongside you this video!
The movie seems better than the comics. When I first watched it I didn't know the batman vs superman being pushed around so the best friend line was normal to me. Now it makes sense why Clark and Batman are best friends alongside Wonder Woman in the main universe, why they would never betray their principles or do evil. I hope we get a return to wholesome justice league after DC stops being edgy.
"That sanctimonius act had EVERYONE fooled, except for ME! Because I. Know. Evil!" Lex can't fathom Superman having all that power and being good at heart, mainly because he wouldn't be. Because he isn't
Ah, the rare instance where I actually read the book before I saw the cartoon movie! Public Enemies is such a cool story for me personally, for a bunch of reasons. I ended up reading the comic book of Batman & Superman: world's finest long before I ever knew it was animated, & Public Enemies captured the spirit of that story again for me. It also played a role in introducing me to a lot of Charlton characters. Most of all though, it feels like an absolute thrill ride the whole way through.
Depends what you think of Power Girl, but JLU, Public Enemies had Powergirl. Superman/Batman had Supergirl aka Powergirl. Though I can not think of many Earth 2 Powergirl or Post crisis pink mimic Power Girl. Honestly Huntress gets barely rep esp Earth 2 version.
I love the movie it's up there with Green Lantern: First Flight as one the most underrated DC animated movies. The dynamic between Bruce and Clark is fun with some good old snarky banter. And Lex is easly the highlight of the movie. Powergirl is very likable even if she's voiced by Alison Mack.
@zyaicob she played Chloe on Smallville and she got involved with the NIXVM cult that supposedly was a self-help group but really was more about branding women as property.
It's all fun and games for president Luthor until he has to attend a meeting on Agricultural Department. It was then that Lex realized he failed upward.
Such massive props to the filmmakers for being able to translate the story to a different medium. People have no clue how hard it is until they actually have to do it. I love this film just as much as I love the story it's based off of, and I almost never say that about anything. And props to YOU, my friend, for yet another excellent video. One of the things I absolutely love about your videos is your eye for the subtle nuances of every piece of media you analyze and how you draw attention to the different appeals of the story in both of its mediums. Like here, how you draw attention to the duality of Bruce and Clarks' views on the world and how well they know each other, whereas in the film, you draw attention to the slightly different role the two have in the story (how it's less a story about just the two people) and the differences in the portrayals of the characters (like how Lex Luthor is a lot more charismatic and manipulative and less cartoonish). Man, I'm such a happy subscriber.
Superman and Batman have one of the most wholesome friendships in comics; they have such fun banter and respect one another, almost like brothers. I also think the concept of Lex Luthor as President is always entertaining and interesting story premise because before this comic came out, the idea of a corporate, corrupt, xenophobic philanthropist becoming President of the US was just a parody idea for this story; however, nowadays, the concept is too relatable, the only difference is at least Lex Luthor is actually fiercely intelligent.
A pretty good retrospective look at the Batman Superman Public enemies movie and its comic book counterpart. I hope for a follow-up video on Batman Superman Apocalypse and maybe the full Supergirl storyline from that comic series that sadly didn't get animated.
i’ve only found this channel about 4 days ago and no joke have already watched over 100 videos by now (i stopped counting after a hundred but i didn’t wanna over exaggerate)
I’ve watched the movie and read the comic book story. I LOVE Public Enemies! The comic’s inner monologues give readers a deeper understanding of our heroes. The movie has a better plot when it comes to Lex framing Superman. Both versions are great in their own right but for people who are only getting their feet wet in comics, I would simply recommend the movie. For more hardcore fans, read the comic. But rest assured, the story as a whole is still a pretty fun ride all things considered.
Batman’s already considered a fugitive, and Superman has too much looming power and constant positive publicity behind him. Marvel’s heroes aren’t often too friendly or consistent in the eyes of the public, with Hulk being Hulk, Tony being a menace in his own right, an the constant unrest caused by either mutant opposition or whatever cosmic entity of the week is breaking things.
Man I've been waiting to see you cover this one for so long. Never realized the comic was so different though. Honestly prefer the way the film did things. A good adaptation that trims the fat.
Omg i’ve never been this excited early!! Also this was like the only dvd we had when I was little so I heavily fw this movie. (Give me more batman beyond)
Remember that Bach canon from my Music Theory classes in the 70's. I left comics a long time ago but your thesis remind me why I loved them long ago. Bless.'
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Batman VS Superman is a Great idea to do Once, and The Dark Knight Returns was the perfect way to do it.. but I agree they shouldn't have made it part of the main canon
There aren't many animated specials I'd say are better than the comic wholesale, but I definitely think this is a case where everything about the movie improves upon the foundation the comic set.
Honestly they probably could have had the Thought bubbles in the movie. Just give peoples internal thoughts a slight echo. Brave and the Bold would do that
The idea of a corrupt billionaire criminal politician actually solving problems like the economy or foreign affairs hits even less realistic than it did in 2003.
Superman would never be a government stooge honestly one of my mayor issues with Batman returns or what ever it’s called it’s taken forever for sups to shake that
Always was a huge fan of McGuiness art so Public Enemies was a fave of mine when it released. the movie left out one of batsy's best quotes ever about Supe.
Disclaimer: I will watch the video later but i had to comment first. Watching this movie was odd since I didn’t really care for the book. It’s full of the most annoying parts of Jeph Loeb stories. I’m not even a huge fan of chracters like Lady Shiva or Starfire and I knew they were getting done dirty. Plus it took one of the most interesting twists on Lex Luthor we ever had and wasted it. Lex as president while an alien invasion happens, forcing him and Superman to work together was interesting, because you really did get the feeling that maybe it wasn’t so bad having a villain like Luthor as leader since his self interest was tied up in the well being of the country he was leading. But imagine if it had been Lois and Clark using their investigative reporter skills to bring down Luthor ala Woodward and Bernstein? Or anything. Instead he goes wild and jumps in the power suit. Such a waste. Given that, I thought the movie did an okay job adapting a story I didnt like.
@ImplicitlyPretentious Hey this is a completely unrelated note, but I found a comic you might enjoy. Its on the more philisophical side which is right up you're alley. Its called Batman: Death and the Maidens. It goes deep about Ras Al Ghul's philosophy and Batmans relationship with his parents, and whats great about it is that batmans parents are actual characters, not empty blank characters for batman to project grief, but they actually interact with him and they get batman to change as a character
I like Man and Soup’s dynamic together with each other Amanda Walter is one of my favorite dc antagonists I like Mr krabs as ex uthor They should have had Luke skywalker to play the jonkler Yeah the jugular should have been in it.
4:53 tbf captain atom role in this movie is pretty accurate to what he does in general as a character. Although there does exist more nuances in other material than most people realize. Sadly DC doesn't know what to do with his character since the mid 2000s.
I think having Lex be a third party candidate allowed the story to make it’s point in a more realistic, honest way, instead of falling into the childish “my side perfect, your side evil” trap that makes up most political discourse. It might’ve been even more realistic if Captain Atom was blinded by his loyalty to a specific party rather than just patriotism in general, but that would’ve definitely fallen into the trap too. And thanks in advance to everyone in the replies for proving my point.
I mean, the post-Crisis businessman Lex was admittedly based after Donald Trump, to pretend anyone sees him as anything otherwise is dishonest. Of course, that's also applying a modern lens to things, when the comics originally pitched the President Lex storyline, I assume it was meant to be during the "boring Al Gore years" everyone was predicting. Anyhow, that's not how things turned out, but the point is that literally everyone already associates Lex with republicans. Though, oddly enough, most (as in 51% or so?) also associate Superman as being republican; even though in every story (excluding The Dark Knight Returns) he's neutral, like in this claiming it's not his right to tell people how to vote. In conclusion, I think it would have been incredibly ballsey to have had him be a democrat in the movie, Lex doesn't seem to have any problems with _humans_ of color, although he may be guilty of fetishizing them... we'll ignore that for now. He doesn't seem to have any problems with gays, and supposedly solved the homeless crisis in a way that didn't involve murdering all homeless people. Sure, they could have had an extremely nuanced take, he's not evil because he's from party x, he's evil because he's "Lex flippin' Luthor" as Clark puts it, but they didn't. Though, I'm pretty sure his middle name is "Joseph" same as Clark's, which I'm told was a huge plot point in Zack Snyder's cut sequel to Batman v Superman.
I feel like Luthor's main motivation usually to prove that humanity doesn't need Superman. It becomes obsessive and destructive, but it's fundamentally noble. I think if this story had some real cajones it would let Luthor be a great President and have Supes learn that Lex is ultimately right. It's not the kind of inspiration he hoped to be, but he did genuinely inspire Lex to make humanity better. I dunno, it just feels wrong/out of character for things to be on the up and up with Supes looking like The Question, trying to uncover a conspiracy he has no evidence for.
I prefer the ending of the comic over the animation. With Capt. Atom piloting the mech doing the right thing. In the animation, he waited until Waller revealed everything. While he basically have a change of mind earlier with MF, the situation feels diminished compared to hitting the meteor. The animation definitely did Lex better, though.
At some point, can we talk about when and why producers/writers/directors and critics all came to this unanimous decision that voice-over monologues don't work in movies? Like, I see people talk about it all the time as if it's some universally known truth and that it has never been done in good cinema, but that's seriously not true: noir films and the beginning of The Batman were better for it, and it is one of my favorite elements of comics. I agree that it is not as effective to have characters narrate things that can be shown or conveyed by subtext, but Loeb's writing was explicitly influenced by noir films and their hard-boiled internal monologues. I wish TV and filmmakers would grow spines and stop being afraid of trying anything that Spielberg or a dozen contemporary directors haven't done.
I enjoyed these comics when they came out, specifically because of the dual narration. I ... don't think I want to watch this. If it helps, one reason the story feels like action figures being smashed together is (if memory serves) that the writer was collaborating with his young son, who was dying of cancer. So the kids-playing-with-toys feel might have come from there.
“That was my best friend. And you just killed him.”
This moment in the movie will always live rent free in my head. Superman was absolutely ready to betray his morals just to avenge Batman. I mean, he held back the moment the meteor was blown up, but DAMN. The fear in Luthor’s face was on par with accidentally resurrecting Darkseid in JLU.
I like it as a testament to his friendship with Batman, but at the same time, it was terrifying as a kid seeing Superman going rogue before Injustice and the nightmare sequences from BvS made me all numb and bored of it.
It's the parallel to Diana's "I'm going to put a hole in your head" to the OTHER Toyman.
yeah I think angry Superman should work when its done Like the doctor getting mad or darker when its rare.
I really liked relationship between Batman and Superman here, it was great.
Lex becoming a predator is weird but actually fits him being in power when you think about certain corporations.
Because superman was born with power he never asked for or wanted it doesn't go to his head, Because lex is born powerless and had to work for everything he feels entileted to and wants more.
@@daraghokane4236 that had nothing to do with my comment but okay
@@mandalorianhunter1 I guess they were trying to explain how Lex became said predator?
I mean, the disadvantage of the "hard work" mentality and all...
But let's be real... it goes back to the 40 cakes he stole.
@@JuanLeon-oe6xe Dear god! That's as much as four tens!
@@JuanLeon-oe6xe definitely not
And that's terrible
This was 1 of the few Movies I watched after Konroy's Death. The Friendship between Batman & Superman is almost perfect:
My Favorite Lines:
Bats: "Do me a Favor and Lose The Sense of Humor" *Trying to remove a Kryptonite Bullet off Clark*
Supes: "Do us Both a Favor and Buy One" With a Big Smile while their also being attacked. 😊
I love you are a big fan, but not enough to spell his name right.
@@dimsumboy22 Don't go there dude, just because someone messed up writing now and then does not mean they don't care.
Alot of people get names wrong sometimes, don't be one of those fans that degrade other fands for not "being a big enough fan".
@@cjlane5677 this is why fandoms fail. Gatekeeping works.
Anyway, swerving away from the guy who's being a dickhead above me --
This exact kind of banter between characters is why some of my favorite scenes in Batman/Superman media is Superman constantly pestering Batman to go eat somewhere with him. Farm boy just wants to go to the greasiest diners and drag his grumbling upper class co-worker/friend along.
@@conspiracypanda1200 A good foil character always does wonders, I grew up in the era where it is superhero vs superhero so it is nice to see some actually be friends. I remember one of my personal favorites is where Batman and Superman meet WonderWoman for the first time, it just feels like something real friends would do and I love it!
I guess the diffrence between batman and superman is Batman sees his job as a burden something he has to do for the good for his city. Superman sees helping people as an honor and enjoys everything about it. Superman unlike spiderman etc. Actually loves been a hero he often wants to be a normal person but he still loves his job
That's what Zack Snyder got so wrong about Superman in my opinion, he made him treat saving people as a burden or like humanity was a burden.
@@Elfenlied8675309 Zacks superman was made to turn evil in a future film. Even that idea would have worked better if he started out as a good guy
I think you're right, but that that's also why the two parallel and enjoy one another so much. Superman reminds Batman why what he does isn't just for vengeance. Batman reminds Superman that what he does isn't a burden... it's an honor, because he keeps human beings from having to take that burden themselves.
Batman at his core does the job because he believes no one else will.
Superman at his core does the job because he can and he wants to.
It's a subtle but poignant difference.
It is the differences between their looks on the job, but what makes them work so well together is that both have a obligation, and find the respect in each other's differences
'that was my best friend, and you just killed him' god idk how often i watched it but i loved this film as a kid lol that line's stuck with me for some reason.
"Does Powergirl have big..." Nope, we have noooooo idea what you mean by that. *whistles innocently*
Melons? Because I thougth Clark was the one raised by farmers...
Booba
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@@JuanLeon-oe6xeIt was a dairy and livestock farm. The joke wrote itself.
@@jonathanathor117 “So Superman you know a thing or two about dairy … how’s powergirl’s dairy production??? Is her ‘factory’ more than adequate????”
There's an infinite amount of great things I can say about the returning voice cast, but man Clancy Brown just carries such gravitas with his performances and was the reason why Lex Luthor became my favourite comic book villain.
You should watch Highlander it has Clancy brown as a villain PEAK
This film's take on Power Girl reminded me of 90's Lex Luthor manipulating Supergirl so that he could keep her as his pet enforcer.
"That was my best friend, and YOU just killed him!" That line gave me chills as a kid, and still does. I love this movie, seeing the friendship between Batman and Superman is just awesome. But perhaps because I've watched it since I was a kid, I never bothered to look at it critically for the message and themes, and it was really cool to do that alongside you this video!
"Lex makes out with Weller"
*Jesus Christ how horrifying*
My genuine reaction
Bromance, the movie
They should make this the official synopsis on IMDB and everywhere else.
I love the “that was my best friend” line from Superman. Because that’s what the Batman/Superman dynamic has been missing. Them being friends
The movie seems better than the comics. When I first watched it I didn't know the batman vs superman being pushed around so the best friend line was normal to me. Now it makes sense why Clark and Batman are best friends alongside Wonder Woman in the main universe, why they would never betray their principles or do evil. I hope we get a return to wholesome justice league after DC stops being edgy.
I liked this movie. Batman and Superman's friendship on full display and that was fun.
One of my favorite animated movies
Another example of an adaptation being better than its source material.
"That sanctimonius act had EVERYONE fooled, except for ME!
Because I. Know. Evil!"
Lex can't fathom Superman having all that power and being good at heart, mainly because he wouldn't be. Because he isn't
Lex doesn't want to admit but he has rotten heart.
Ah, the rare instance where I actually read the book before I saw the cartoon movie! Public Enemies is such a cool story for me personally, for a bunch of reasons. I ended up reading the comic book of Batman & Superman: world's finest long before I ever knew it was animated, & Public Enemies captured the spirit of that story again for me. It also played a role in introducing me to a lot of Charlton characters. Most of all though, it feels like an absolute thrill ride the whole way through.
It's really odd that this was possibly the only Power Girl appearance in a DC film, be it animated or live.
Depends what you think of Power Girl, but JLU, Public Enemies had Powergirl. Superman/Batman had Supergirl aka Powergirl. Though I can not think of many Earth 2 Powergirl or Post crisis pink mimic Power Girl. Honestly Huntress gets barely rep esp Earth 2 version.
Yes very odd.
I like how the film's art style is influenced by Ed McGuiness' art
I love the movie it's up there with Green Lantern: First Flight as one the most underrated DC animated movies.
The dynamic between Bruce and Clark is fun with some good old snarky banter.
And Lex is easly the highlight of the movie.
Powergirl is very likable even if she's voiced by Alison Mack.
Who's Alison Mack and why is she unlikable
@zyaicob she played Chloe on Smallville and she got involved with the NIXVM cult that supposedly was a self-help group but really was more about branding women as property.
@@tylerbertram7065 OH THAT'S HER
It's all fun and games for president Luthor until he has to attend a meeting on Agricultural Department. It was then that Lex realized he failed upward.
This movie shows how much of good/best friends both Batman and Superman really are together
There's a world where they made two versions of this story as film, one with each set of thought narration.
As much of a dynamic duo as Batman and Robin!
Such massive props to the filmmakers for being able to translate the story to a different medium. People have no clue how hard it is until they actually have to do it. I love this film just as much as I love the story it's based off of, and I almost never say that about anything.
And props to YOU, my friend, for yet another excellent video. One of the things I absolutely love about your videos is your eye for the subtle nuances of every piece of media you analyze and how you draw attention to the different appeals of the story in both of its mediums. Like here, how you draw attention to the duality of Bruce and Clarks' views on the world and how well they know each other, whereas in the film, you draw attention to the slightly different role the two have in the story (how it's less a story about just the two people) and the differences in the portrayals of the characters (like how Lex Luthor is a lot more charismatic and manipulative and less cartoonish). Man, I'm such a happy subscriber.
I love this guy
You have quickly become one of my top favorite RUclipsrs, keep doing what you are doing man
Superman and Batman have one of the most wholesome friendships in comics; they have such fun banter and respect one another, almost like brothers.
I also think the concept of Lex Luthor as President is always entertaining and interesting story premise because before this comic came out, the idea of a corporate, corrupt, xenophobic philanthropist becoming President of the US was just a parody idea for this story; however, nowadays, the concept is too relatable, the only difference is at least Lex Luthor is actually fiercely intelligent.
A pretty good retrospective look at the Batman Superman Public enemies movie and its comic book counterpart. I hope for a follow-up video on Batman Superman Apocalypse and maybe the full Supergirl storyline from that comic series that sadly didn't get animated.
have loved the movie since it came out, and i NEED to get around to reading the book. Keep up the good work my guy
you should the entire Superman/Batman run has awsome stories
Yeah, I am sure Batman hates being carried. Mostly because he has to use his cape afterward to cover up the half mast it gives him.
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Love the analysis’s you make that show your understanding of the characters and appreciation for superhero content! Really in depth and interesting
i’ve only found this channel about 4 days ago and no joke have already watched over 100 videos by now (i stopped counting after a hundred but i didn’t wanna over exaggerate)
So glad you’re covering this! 👏
This channel is consistently the best at explaining values of stories. Love it!
Notice how Lex is still bald
God, I love this channel
I love how comic Lex goes from getting cancer from a kryptonite ring to straight injecting it into his bloodstream
I saw the movie first then got the trade of the comic and all I could think when reading it was "wow, I like the movie WAY more" lmao
Bruce: Do us both a favor and lose the sense of humor.
Clark: Do us both a favor and buy one.
Excellent as always!
I’ve watched the movie and read the comic book story. I LOVE Public Enemies! The comic’s inner monologues give readers a deeper understanding of our heroes. The movie has a better plot when it comes to Lex framing Superman. Both versions are great in their own right but for people who are only getting their feet wet in comics, I would simply recommend the movie. For more hardcore fans, read the comic. But rest assured, the story as a whole is still a pretty fun ride all things considered.
such a great video! game me chills!
You know when Kingpin became the Mayor of New York he made the heroes fugitive and why couldn’t Lex and the Penguin when he became mayor of Gotham?
Batman’s already considered a fugitive, and Superman has too much looming power and constant positive publicity behind him.
Marvel’s heroes aren’t often too friendly or consistent in the eyes of the public, with Hulk being Hulk, Tony being a menace in his own right, an the constant unrest caused by either mutant opposition or whatever cosmic entity of the week is breaking things.
I just got to rewatching the movie a day or so ago wtf you have immaculate timing
Captain atom when he gets to do something in a story: "guess I'll explode."
Man I've been waiting to see you cover this one for so long.
Never realized the comic was so different though. Honestly prefer the way the film did things. A good adaptation that trims the fat.
This was just a great video
Omg i’ve never been this excited early!! Also this was like the only dvd we had when I was little so I heavily fw this movie. (Give me more batman beyond)
That's such a weird coincidence. I just watched Superman/Batman: Public Enemies with my nephew and father. I quite enjoyed my rewatch of it.
Remember that Bach canon from my Music Theory classes in the 70's. I left comics a long time ago but your thesis remind me why I loved them long ago. Bless.'
I honestly completely forgot Everything about this story except that Batman and Superman were on the run for some reason and it's a buddy cop dramedy
Don't forget that also brought back the whole friendship between them after that whole dislike bs trend that Frank Miller started.
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Batman VS Superman is a Great idea to do Once, and The Dark Knight Returns was the perfect way to do it.. but I agree they shouldn't have made it part of the main canon
There aren't many animated specials I'd say are better than the comic wholesale, but I definitely think this is a case where everything about the movie improves upon the foundation the comic set.
I am addicted to your content
The movie is fun to watch.
if anyone wondering yes it's same hiro in big hero 6 dude has had the craziest fucking jump between comic brands ever
Honestly they probably could have had the Thought bubbles in the movie. Just give peoples internal thoughts a slight echo. Brave and the Bold would do that
“And these two juiced up looking dudes…” I cackled
Changing a story can be good or bad this is animated movie is good
That "only guilty men run" line. Oof. Said like a true tool of authority.
The idea of a corrupt billionaire criminal politician actually solving problems like the economy or foreign affairs hits even less realistic than it did in 2003.
I can't wait for the red son review to be about how it was a Luther lex x Lois
I don't remember how a copy of this movie got to me but I do remember re watching it a lot of times because it was really entertaining
Man your popping pf these videos there so good
Superman would never be a government stooge honestly one of my mayor issues with Batman returns or what ever it’s called it’s taken forever for sups to shake that
Always was a huge fan of McGuiness art so Public Enemies was a fave of mine when it released. the movie left out one of batsy's best quotes ever about Supe.
I hear Canon I hit like (also your content is superb!).
I love the movie for a number of reasons, but the primary one? Because it is the only film depiction of Power Girl. She's great.
These movies make me miss Dwayne McDuffie even more. They're not the same without him.
I've been looking forward to this video! This movie is a favorite of mine. Maybe I'll have to pick up the comic
Disclaimer: I will watch the video later but i had to comment first. Watching this movie was odd since I didn’t really care for the book. It’s full of the most annoying parts of Jeph Loeb stories. I’m not even a huge fan of chracters like Lady Shiva or Starfire and I knew they were getting done dirty. Plus it took one of the most interesting twists on Lex Luthor we ever had and wasted it. Lex as president while an alien invasion happens, forcing him and Superman to work together was interesting, because you really did get the feeling that maybe it wasn’t so bad having a villain like Luthor as leader since his self interest was tied up in the well being of the country he was leading. But imagine if it had been Lois and Clark using their investigative reporter skills to bring down Luthor ala Woodward and Bernstein? Or anything. Instead he goes wild and jumps in the power suit. Such a waste. Given that, I thought the movie did an okay job adapting a story I didnt like.
This movie is good and also taught me Metallo is my favorite superman villain
my implicit can we get some 90s married spidey and mj stuff. I love your retrospective series on spiderman
I’d like a animate emperor, joker
Yeah same here. After this an animated version of Superman/Batman Vengeance
@@sartbimpson4519 sure I would like that
I’m just here for banger tunes implicitly has. Where tf my playlist 😭
Wally West/Artemis clip at the end....what you cooking brother
@ImplicitlyPretentious
Hey this is a completely unrelated note, but I found a comic you might enjoy. Its on the more philisophical side which is right up you're alley. Its called Batman: Death and the Maidens. It goes deep about Ras Al Ghul's philosophy and Batmans relationship with his parents, and whats great about it is that batmans parents are actual characters, not empty blank characters for batman to project grief, but they actually interact with him and they get batman to change as a character
I like Man and Soup’s dynamic together with each other Amanda Walter is one of my favorite dc antagonists
I like Mr krabs as ex uthor
They should have had Luke skywalker to play the jonkler
Yeah the jugular should have been in it.
he wasn't in the comic so why should they
Oh no, r/arkhamasylum has been breached
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω because it’s all the other voice actors I’m just saying
@@Alies46 JOKER WASN'T IN THE COMIC
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω ok sheesh I haven’t read the comic I’m just saying if joker was in it they should cast mark hamal
Really love your video essays. If you're interested, I'd like to see some essays based on "Star Trek", "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", and "Angel."
4:53 tbf captain atom role in this movie is pretty accurate to what he does in general as a character. Although there does exist more nuances in other material than most people realize. Sadly DC doesn't know what to do with his character since the mid 2000s.
I think having Lex be a third party candidate allowed the story to make it’s point in a more realistic, honest way, instead of falling into the childish “my side perfect, your side evil” trap that makes up most political discourse. It might’ve been even more realistic if Captain Atom was blinded by his loyalty to a specific party rather than just patriotism in general, but that would’ve definitely fallen into the trap too.
And thanks in advance to everyone in the replies for proving my point.
I mean, the post-Crisis businessman Lex was admittedly based after Donald Trump, to pretend anyone sees him as anything otherwise is dishonest. Of course, that's also applying a modern lens to things, when the comics originally pitched the President Lex storyline, I assume it was meant to be during the "boring Al Gore years" everyone was predicting. Anyhow, that's not how things turned out, but the point is that literally everyone already associates Lex with republicans. Though, oddly enough, most (as in 51% or so?) also associate Superman as being republican; even though in every story (excluding The Dark Knight Returns) he's neutral, like in this claiming it's not his right to tell people how to vote.
In conclusion, I think it would have been incredibly ballsey to have had him be a democrat in the movie, Lex doesn't seem to have any problems with _humans_ of color, although he may be guilty of fetishizing them... we'll ignore that for now. He doesn't seem to have any problems with gays, and supposedly solved the homeless crisis in a way that didn't involve murdering all homeless people. Sure, they could have had an extremely nuanced take, he's not evil because he's from party x, he's evil because he's "Lex flippin' Luthor" as Clark puts it, but they didn't. Though, I'm pretty sure his middle name is "Joseph" same as Clark's, which I'm told was a huge plot point in Zack Snyder's cut sequel to Batman v Superman.
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Atom me boy yur spend’n all me money!
The comic is my all time favorite
8:01 ahhh I see you employ the Union flag before 1801, chapeau
Favorite dc movie the best "superman vs batman"
"Consider yourself, Impeached"
Milly Alcott will never pull off the Power Girl costume.
I love this movie so much
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I really want to know how comic artists make mistakes like what they did to Bruce's eye here.
They should've just made a live action version of this story instead of Batman v Superman
I feel like Luthor's main motivation usually to prove that humanity doesn't need Superman. It becomes obsessive and destructive, but it's fundamentally noble. I think if this story had some real cajones it would let Luthor be a great President and have Supes learn that Lex is ultimately right. It's not the kind of inspiration he hoped to be, but he did genuinely inspire Lex to make humanity better.
I dunno, it just feels wrong/out of character for things to be on the up and up with Supes looking like The Question, trying to uncover a conspiracy he has no evidence for.
LEX COULD HAVE MADE THE WORLD BETTER BEFORE SUPERMAN WAS ON THE SCENE HE CHOSE TO ABUSE HIS POWER AND WEALTH
I prefer the ending of the comic over the animation. With Capt. Atom piloting the mech doing the right thing.
In the animation, he waited until Waller revealed everything. While he basically have a change of mind earlier with MF, the situation feels diminished compared to hitting the meteor.
The animation definitely did Lex better, though.
10/10 video 🤌
Glad to see power girls chest is getting the right representation 🎉
He in fact did not name this video pubic enemies :(
At some point, can we talk about when and why producers/writers/directors and critics all came to this unanimous decision that voice-over monologues don't work in movies? Like, I see people talk about it all the time as if it's some universally known truth and that it has never been done in good cinema, but that's seriously not true: noir films and the beginning of The Batman were better for it, and it is one of my favorite elements of comics. I agree that it is not as effective to have characters narrate things that can be shown or conveyed by subtext, but Loeb's writing was explicitly influenced by noir films and their hard-boiled internal monologues. I wish TV and filmmakers would grow spines and stop being afraid of trying anything that Spielberg or a dozen contemporary directors haven't done.
Another W vid.
5:42 star fire looks good
I enjoyed these comics when they came out, specifically because of the dual narration.
I ... don't think I want to watch this.
If it helps, one reason the story feels like action figures being smashed together is (if memory serves) that the writer was collaborating with his young son, who was dying of cancer. So the kids-playing-with-toys feel might have come from there.
you should its really great