@@Shinobi33 thanks those look great but I’m not sure the orange or blue Crystal packs go well with the Forza color scheme on this awesome controller. Too bad cause I’d love to switch out those slick side grips for what seems like grippier ones in the replacement packs.
"If you don't have money for a wheel" For another 50 you can get a decent wheel in fact you can get 3 Xbox thrustmaster Ferrari no frills whell with pedals for the price of this when they go on sale for 60-70 which is going to give 10000% more control than this. In fact you can buy their brand new 900 degree Xbox wheel for the same amount. The truth is it's a horrible value for niche gimmick
Pre-ordered mine and had it the first day. I have an XBox Elite 2 and a Razer Wolverine Chroma. The TM controller blows them away. Best part is that my lap times improved noticeably as soon as I started using the TM.
EEEEEHHHM thx for all these reviews and for the free month of game pass. (: I got a gulikit kingkong 2 pro cause of your review and i'm very thankful. hope your doing well for the longest time. EDIT: MICRO-USB... reaallyy???
The only possible way this would be worth forking out for a dedicated controller or even paying a good bit extra for jus the module, is if it had no centering spring, and was an actual DD motor with FFB. Thats the only genuine upside this format could possibly have over a traditional analogue input. Do you want more resolution to your steer input from lock to lock on a thumbstick? Simply hold the thumbstick forward and roll it from side to side to get a L/R input thats more granular, and basically lets to use the same thumb movements as you would with this module, input is functionally the same. Its very very securely sitting in "Gimmick" land for me. And unless they do come out with some DD FFB module for it. I'll never give it a second glance.
I'm watching this video in 2024, because I'm on a hunt for a controller to play driving sim video's. This looks very interesting. Mind you, I'm a novice when it comes to driving video's and controllers. Thanks.
I want one so badly but lack of wireless combined with perhaps the worst form-factor (Micro) USB for wired connection, particularly since it's at the "business end" is an instant nope from me. I'll wait for another version. Amazing idea though.
More rotation definitely seems like the ideal upgrade. Not sure about 270, but even juts 180 degrees. They may as well make a separate module for the wider rotation variants, so it can resolve the analog input easier (and no worries about stoppers that prevent overturning). Biggest thing I think it needs are replacement wheels, similar to replacement sticks at different heights. You could definitely make the whole wheel a little bit larger, while also having some more stylistic choices.
Does the racing module work with the eswap pro playstation version of the controller? It doesn't seem there's an "unbranded" version of this racing wheel module and I have the Playstation version of the eswap.
The Gamester wheel controller for the original xbox was my favorite racing peripheral. I used to spend countless hours on Project Gotham Racing with that thing.
Can Thrustmaster eSwap "wheel module" for Forza work on eSwap for PS4 version? I had the impression that maybe so, because the dock design is (apparently) the same on both controllers. Do you know if it works?
Dude. I just got the racing wheel module and I cannot believe how much it changes Trackmania for me. Until now, the game always felt kinda “off” to me. Steering with a keyboard felt awful. Steering with a thumbstick felt worse than it should have no matter how many times I messed with it in the settings. Then the steering wheel module arrived and BOOM the game just clicks now. It just feels right. I didn’t expect it to make this much of a difference. And the wheel movement is so nuanced that I don’t feel like it needs to be able to turn any more than it already does.
1:53 If you got a controller for free, that's payment. Why is this so hard for RUclipsrs and "influencers" to understand? You did the correct, legal thing in disclosing the free product but that doesn't mean you weren't paid. You were. Imagine if I said I wasn't paid by Porsche to review their 2023 911 GT3 RS, they just gave me a free one. Now do you get it? Note: this comment was not paid for by Porsche to mention their all new, amazing 2023 911 GT3 RS, their gift to car enthusiasts, special and rare automobiles that make driving-slowly or quickly, on the road or on the racetrack-a soul-stirring experience... but they did give me a free one.
Really cool controller i like it, have a quick question, in my local CEX here in the UK, i noticed a Thrustmaster eSwap X pro on sale for £80, just wondering if you think it's worth that?.
@@GamerHeavenOfficialThanks for answering my question dude, comes to around $85, i might pick it up tomorrow if it's still there. Good video as always ✌️
dude starts talk about 2.5 times of rotating the steering wheel but then he brings up forza and gt7 that dont support 2.5turns(900-1080degrees) of lock to lock steering wheel rotating :P
Sorry, but did you say Micro-USB?! 🤦♀️ I ordered yesterday, and now, I think I will send it directly back and wait until they need to move on to USB-C by our new law. I like to let the EU rule it for me.
Awesome review as ever! That 90° range is really bad, I am using gyro on Dualsense for steering, and the difference just between 90° and 180° (max for gyro) is huge, seriously. So they wouldn't even have to make it 270°, 360° or whatever, just increase to 180° would make it so much better (although the more the better obviously). Also, it is very important how you set the deadzone and steering gamma. Unlike with thumbstick, you want deadzone set to 0 (which is impossible to do in some games), and increase the gamma so small movements give you more precision.
Wow, thrustmaster invented the pong paddle. Sarcasm aside this looks like a really cool controller that I am now itching to buy. I was worried that the wheel module only worked for Forza games specifically. I'm relieved that it just shows up as left and right stick movement. That should mean it would work with any driving game. I thought it might be cool to use in grand theft auto where you use the regular layout to control your character on foot and swap over to the steering wheel module when you get in a car.
Looks good but more rotation would be great. Totally agree with the rubberised side grips, that would have been cool AF. Id like to see the wheel module slightly larger and positioned centrally in the controller so could be used with both thumbs and also made to look like a real steering wheel. They could sell branded wheels that way. Id buy them all for sure. Ill prob still buy it tho as ive been looking for something like this for years.
I have a question for the host...If i have an idea for the controller who do I talk to at thrustmaster? Is their a link I can go to to talk to the team? I think it is a good idea that people that play horizon or any racing game for that matter would be able to sink their teeth into as well as make the experience more realistic and that much more enjoyable. I would also like to give some feedback to Forza.
HKS was probably best racing controller for PS2 back in the day. It was very ergonomic. It had a self centering wheel that was basically a mouse wheel turned horizontally. It also had a gas pedal and brake pedal on the front for your thumb that had resistance.
What is your wheel settings that work best for you. Maybe do a video of detail how to adjust or help me understand how i should be doing it. I did get one today..
I finally pulled the trigger on one, I'm very excited to try logging with it in farming simulator. Steering wheel and 2 joysticks will be a game changer for running a danglehead processor (tree felling)
I'm really worried that I won't be able to use separate stick and wheel on the left, no one has covered it. I thought you or the farm sim reviewer would be the one to say, but I guess not. I'm really looking forward to trying to build my own wheel module with a multi-turn pot.
Hi, may I ask if you can think of reviewing the shaks s5b controller I have been thinking about buying, but I am not sure, and I also want to buy a brook adapter with it so it can connect to my xb1 this would mean alot to me sir
I'm very much not sold on this controller for a few reasons. I've been playing racing games somewhat competitively for about 10 years now on a controller, from sim to arcade games. First, this just doesn't look ergonomic at all or seems like it does anything different from a thumbstick that is placed in the same location. One thing I keep saying is how thumbsticks on the lower position are better for left and right inputs while in the higher position they're better for up and down inputs. I've never had issues with the stick placement on PS controllers for racing, can't say I like their shape though especially how upright the sides are, which seems to be a problem with this controller too. The idea of a slider that only moves left or right is great, but I feel like the implementation here leaves a lot to be desired. I think if they had something like the PSP thumbstick but with more range of movement (and that doesn't immediately die with a few hours of use) it would be much better than this. Just a slider that can be dragged left or right on a slight diagonal for better ergonomics would be ideal. Ultimately I feel like nothing is gained from this module spinning around, if anything it actually takes precision away versus an actual slider. Finally, arcade games usually have pretty aggressive steering filters in place and I can totally see this being far too unresponsive for the majority of games. I play Horizon 5 a fair bit and the cars already are on the unresponsive side, to me this would just add to that and make the driving feel even more disconnected. There are other games with different styles of steering filters, some with none at all like simulators, but I feel like a slider would be simpler and work as good if not better for all racing games.
i wouldn't say the wheel was invented by them, there has been lots of diy controllers by people over the last 10 years with wheels but they are the first mass licensed company to do it.
I have seen those little 3d printed snap on wheels that just move the left stick back and fourth. I wouldn’t even compare the quality and feel of this to those in any aspect
@@GamerHeavenOfficial ya id agree there, but the ones im speaking of for example is the video "THIS CONTROLLER IS PURE EVIL by Evan Kale". where he replaced both the left stick and face buttons with motors that read in the left and right movement based on how far the shaft were to spin as a concept. since then there have been quite a few going around, but the but the 3d gimmick one is over shadowing actual interesting work people have made, and usually confused for when brought up.
@@nabismith8023 now thats a blast from the past, good controller for what it was the only wish i had for it was the counter in the center was for speed in game not of how hard you were pressing the sensor.
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Never had a guy talk me into parting with $200 faster than this. Well done sir.
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Facts👊🥳
G923 go for 200 on offer up good sir.
Buy the fighting or blue crystal swap packs for it. Definitely worth it. Especially the LED blue or orange crystal pack
@@Shinobi33 thanks those look great but I’m not sure the orange or blue Crystal packs go well with the Forza color scheme on this awesome controller. Too bad cause I’d love to switch out those slick side grips for what seems like grippier ones in the replacement packs.
"If you don't have money for a wheel"
For another 50 you can get a decent wheel in fact you can get 3 Xbox thrustmaster Ferrari no frills whell with pedals for the price of this when they go on sale for 60-70 which is going to give 10000% more control than this.
In fact you can buy their brand new 900 degree Xbox wheel for the same amount.
The truth is it's a horrible value for niche gimmick
100% true
I really want them to release a flight sim oriented one with a little throttle module. One that has no spring return to center.
Pre-ordered mine and had it the first day. I have an XBox Elite 2 and a Razer Wolverine Chroma. The TM controller blows them away. Best part is that my lap times improved noticeably as soon as I started using the TM.
Yeah agree lap times vastly improved love this new controller ❤❤ 11/10
Using the TM with the wheel right? Or just the TM
I will get an updated version of this controller for the next Forza Motorsport, provided they increase the turn range.
I'd buy one right this second if only it had wireless compatibility.
I don’t blame you, I strongly prefer wireless controllers
The cable is 2 metres long it’s a great controller ❤ was fed up of battery packs or swapping rechargeable batteries all time
@@allym38 I just can't do wired lol.
Nggg....fuck! I want it, but I already bought an Elite with a 3 year warranty. 😔
Turn up the resistance on the left stick, thats half this thing
EEEEEHHHM thx for all these reviews and for the free month of game pass. (:
I got a gulikit kingkong 2 pro cause of your review and i'm very thankful. hope your doing well for the longest time.
EDIT: MICRO-USB... reaallyy???
You’re welcome, oh nice you got that ! Yeah micro usb in 2023 , go figure
The only possible way this would be worth forking out for a dedicated controller or even paying a good bit extra for jus the module, is if it had no centering spring, and was an actual DD motor with FFB. Thats the only genuine upside this format could possibly have over a traditional analogue input. Do you want more resolution to your steer input from lock to lock on a thumbstick? Simply hold the thumbstick forward and roll it from side to side to get a L/R input thats more granular, and basically lets to use the same thumb movements as you would with this module, input is functionally the same.
Its very very securely sitting in "Gimmick" land for me. And unless they do come out with some DD FFB module for it. I'll never give it a second glance.
I'm watching this video in 2024, because I'm on a hunt for a controller to play driving sim video's. This looks very interesting. Mind you, I'm a novice when it comes to driving video's and controllers. Thanks.
Why is this not using a Type C connector 😢
Yeah that’s wild
I want one so badly but lack of wireless combined with perhaps the worst form-factor (Micro) USB for wired connection, particularly since it's at the "business end" is an instant nope from me. I'll wait for another version. Amazing idea though.
More rotation definitely seems like the ideal upgrade. Not sure about 270, but even juts 180 degrees. They may as well make a separate module for the wider rotation variants, so it can resolve the analog input easier (and no worries about stoppers that prevent overturning).
Biggest thing I think it needs are replacement wheels, similar to replacement sticks at different heights. You could definitely make the whole wheel a little bit larger, while also having some more stylistic choices.
Great review! I might consider buying this in the future for racing games and such. Also that controller colorway does look mighty fine 👀!
Thank you . Yeah it does look pretty sweet
Man, this continues to remind me of how much I wish Thrustmaster would make a controller that was the same silhouette as a ps5 controller.
Very cool idea, and it looks awesome, still wish it had usb c, great vid!
Does the racing module work with the eswap pro playstation version of the controller? It doesn't seem there's an "unbranded" version of this racing wheel module and I have the Playstation version of the eswap.
Micro usb is ridiculous -_-
Yo that looks legit
The Gamester wheel controller for the original xbox was my favorite racing peripheral. I used to spend countless hours on Project Gotham Racing with that thing.
ohhh my god I totally forgot about project Gotham racing.
I SO want one of these but it's SO damn ugly! You should be proud to show off your new toy to friends, not embarrassed.
Can Thrustmaster eSwap "wheel module" for Forza work on eSwap for PS4 version? I had the impression that maybe so, because the dock design is (apparently) the same on both controllers. Do you know if it works?
Couldn’t they just made a joystick module that only goes left and right like the one we get on Dji drone controller
Since a full size wheel can be had for less this this controller in what way is it a "no brainer" to pick up? 200 bucks LOL!! What a ***king joke.
Dude. I just got the racing wheel module and I cannot believe how much it changes Trackmania for me. Until now, the game always felt kinda “off” to me. Steering with a keyboard felt awful. Steering with a thumbstick felt worse than it should have no matter how many times I messed with it in the settings. Then the steering wheel module arrived and BOOM the game just clicks now. It just feels right. I didn’t expect it to make this much of a difference. And the wheel movement is so nuanced that I don’t feel like it needs to be able to turn any more than it already does.
I tried it in trackmania but it felt weird to me. What settings did you use?
Just got this at a fantastic price - £100 (plus a £50 voucher for the store I got it from, usable in February)!
Nice videos man. Love how you talk sh*t , always crack me up 😂
Micro USB? No carrying case? That steering wheel better be gamasmic.
why does no one cover the trigger swap feature or what the RSB and LSB mean in the remapping software and that they are also remapable
This controller has more rubber than a toilet vending machine.
I only got this controller because I’m a PlayStation guy. Xbox controllers are terrible
is it posable to make the wheel a scroll wheel through like rewasd or something (fn scroll wheel reset for those wondering why I ask)
1:53 If you got a controller for free, that's payment. Why is this so hard for RUclipsrs and "influencers" to understand? You did the correct, legal thing in disclosing the free product but that doesn't mean you weren't paid. You were. Imagine if I said I wasn't paid by Porsche to review their 2023 911 GT3 RS, they just gave me a free one. Now do you get it?
Note: this comment was not paid for by Porsche to mention their all new, amazing 2023 911 GT3 RS, their gift to car enthusiasts, special and rare automobiles that make driving-slowly or quickly, on the road or on the racetrack-a soul-stirring experience... but they did give me a free one.
MicroUsb. Are you kidding me
Why the ever living Christ is it micro usb?
How do you get menu button to work on xbox version of this controller? Just got one of these.
What type of Kontrol Freeks work on this roller? PS or Xbox?
Anybody no where I can find presets for this controller?
imagine this module have ffb haha
Really cool controller i like it, have a quick question, in my local CEX here in the UK, i noticed a Thrustmaster eSwap X pro on sale for £80, just wondering if you think it's worth that?.
same, im liking it so far. im not sure what that converts to in USD, but if its below $100 USD, yeah that's a great deal for a SwapX
@@GamerHeavenOfficialThanks for answering my question dude, comes to around $85, i might pick it up tomorrow if it's still there. Good video as always ✌️
Excellent video and review.
You answered all the questions I had of the pad.
Glad it was helpful!
Micro USB Port? Not USB C Port?
dude starts talk about 2.5 times of rotating the steering wheel but then he brings up forza and gt7 that dont support 2.5turns(900-1080degrees) of lock to lock steering wheel rotating :P
Sorry, but did you say Micro-USB?! 🤦♀️ I ordered yesterday, and now, I think I will send it directly back and wait until they need to move on to USB-C by our new law. I like to let the EU rule it for me.
That's what I want😮
Can we get a Controller Review for the Sonicon Elite Edge Controller?
yes I can make that happen
Lock to lock only 90 degrees? Same with the joystick. Unless I'm wrong. CMIIW.
😊🎉😂❤🎉
13:25 Excuse me? Ever heard of the NeGcon? Jogcon or even the RaceRoom controller?
I ain't spending 450 bucks australian on a friggin controller
I friggin respect that
Not usb c? DISAPPOINTED
Awesome review as ever!
That 90° range is really bad, I am using gyro on Dualsense for steering, and the difference just between 90° and 180° (max for gyro) is huge, seriously. So they wouldn't even have to make it 270°, 360° or whatever, just increase to 180° would make it so much better (although the more the better obviously).
Also, it is very important how you set the deadzone and steering gamma.
Unlike with thumbstick, you want deadzone set to 0 (which is impossible to do in some games), and increase the gamma so small movements give you more precision.
Wow, thrustmaster invented the pong paddle. Sarcasm aside this looks like a really cool controller that I am now itching to buy. I was worried that the wheel module only worked for Forza games specifically. I'm relieved that it just shows up as left and right stick movement. That should mean it would work with any driving game. I thought it might be cool to use in grand theft auto where you use the regular layout to control your character on foot and swap over to the steering wheel module when you get in a car.
Ok controller king. Can that work on a PS5 on GRAN TURISMO 7 with a brook adapter??
So like can I use this for FPS tho?
Great video, slick montage, missing some nice Rocky music though. Would be nice tohave someone explain why palette are fundamental on a pro controller
Hey! Would you recommend this controller with the racing wheel to a casual F1 player? I can't decide...
Man if not for the hot pink color I'd buy it immediately. A blue or orange variant would've been amazing. I got the wheel module though
I need this for F1 22
Looks good but more rotation would be great. Totally agree with the rubberised side grips, that would have been cool AF. Id like to see the wheel module slightly larger and positioned centrally in the controller so could be used with both thumbs and also made to look like a real steering wheel. They could sell branded wheels that way. Id buy them all for sure. Ill prob still buy it tho as ive been looking for something like this for years.
Will wait to see if this makes racing sims play nicer on a gamepad first. Shame there's no wireless option.
I have a question for the host...If i have an idea for the controller who do I talk to at thrustmaster? Is their a link I can go to to talk to the team? I think it is a good idea that people that play horizon or any racing game for that matter would be able to sink their teeth into as well as make the experience more realistic and that much more enjoyable. I would also like to give some feedback to Forza.
Micro USB 🐵
HKS was probably best racing controller for PS2 back in the day. It was very ergonomic. It had a self centering wheel that was basically a mouse wheel turned horizontally. It also had a gas pedal and brake pedal on the front for your thumb that had resistance.
Does the wheel component function work by normal potentiometer or did Thrustmaster actually go with the better optical reader?
What is your wheel settings that work best for you. Maybe do a video of detail how to adjust or help me understand how i should be doing it. I did get one today..
I want this for American Truck Simulator but I can wait for an improved version with more rotation.
broxy blue20 Xbox this controller is amazing well better than my series x one
💥
Does it have full rumble/vibration effects as in the Xbox Elite series 2 controller?
Thanks and kind regards for a very informative and helpful review
Why not type C?
I finally pulled the trigger on one, I'm very excited to try logging with it in farming simulator. Steering wheel and 2 joysticks will be a game changer for running a danglehead processor (tree felling)
I'm really worried that I won't be able to use separate stick and wheel on the left, no one has covered it. I thought you or the farm sim reviewer would be the one to say, but I guess not. I'm really looking forward to trying to build my own wheel module with a multi-turn pot.
You get to keep the controller right? Form of payment right?
I wonder if this would work on games like assetto corsa
That looks like a cheap $25 not $200.
Can you map one of the back buttons to be a bumper?
Hi, may I ask if you can think of reviewing the shaks s5b controller I have been thinking about buying, but I am not sure, and I also want to buy a brook adapter with it so it can connect to my xb1 this would mean alot to me sir
I haven’t heard of it, but I will look into it🙂
@@GamerHeavenOfficial thank you so much
can we use wireless?
Fantastic controller love it 😍
I'm very much not sold on this controller for a few reasons. I've been playing racing games somewhat competitively for about 10 years now on a controller, from sim to arcade games.
First, this just doesn't look ergonomic at all or seems like it does anything different from a thumbstick that is placed in the same location. One thing I keep saying is how thumbsticks on the lower position are better for left and right inputs while in the higher position they're better for up and down inputs. I've never had issues with the stick placement on PS controllers for racing, can't say I like their shape though especially how upright the sides are, which seems to be a problem with this controller too.
The idea of a slider that only moves left or right is great, but I feel like the implementation here leaves a lot to be desired. I think if they had something like the PSP thumbstick but with more range of movement (and that doesn't immediately die with a few hours of use) it would be much better than this. Just a slider that can be dragged left or right on a slight diagonal for better ergonomics would be ideal.
Ultimately I feel like nothing is gained from this module spinning around, if anything it actually takes precision away versus an actual slider.
Finally, arcade games usually have pretty aggressive steering filters in place and I can totally see this being far too unresponsive for the majority of games. I play Horizon 5 a fair bit and the cars already are on the unresponsive side, to me this would just add to that and make the driving feel even more disconnected.
There are other games with different styles of steering filters, some with none at all like simulators, but I feel like a slider would be simpler and work as good if not better for all racing games.
i wouldn't say the wheel was invented by them, there has been lots of diy controllers by people over the last 10 years with wheels but they are the first mass licensed company to do it.
I have seen those little 3d printed snap on wheels that just move the left stick back and fourth. I wouldn’t even compare the quality and feel of this to those in any aspect
@@GamerHeavenOfficial ya id agree there, but the ones im speaking of for example is the video "THIS CONTROLLER IS PURE EVIL by Evan Kale". where he replaced both the left stick and face buttons with motors that read in the left and right movement based on how far the shaft were to spin as a concept. since then there have been quite a few going around, but the but the 3d gimmick one is over shadowing actual interesting work people have made, and usually confused for when brought up.
Actually HKS had a controller similar to that for ps3. I had one and loved it. Too bad ps5 gets no love. I need one for grand turismo
@@nabismith8023 now thats a blast from the past, good controller for what it was the only wish i had for it was the counter in the center was for speed in game not of how hard you were pressing the sensor.
The day they launch wireless gamepads, I'll buy one model, they're the best in the world.