I drove a '78 with the V6 Detroit diesel. 1250 gpm. Large black hose is for drafting water from a river lake etc. Cab is very similar. It was a fun rig to drive.
This is not a PTO Pump, it is a Transmission driven Pump that functions through a Transfer Case. To go into pump gear, you have a lever that you pull that disengages the transmission, and activates the Pump via the Transfer Case, then you place the Transmission into 4th Gear, and that completes the Road to Pump Shifting Process. It's strange that being an American LaFrance, it has a big Cummins Engine instead the usual 2 Stroke Detroit's that ALF Rigs typically used.
Just to clear a few blanks up.The pumps on a Firetruck are not even close to being PTO's at all,they are engaged with the truck's Transmission,which is why when you use it the pumps while over 700 Psi and RPM's putting the truck in idle,it still adds up Hours and Miles to the truck's engine since the engine is what helps build up the whole process,obviously connected to the transmission. That is also a late 1960's ALF Firetruck,with that cab,that wider and particular cab wasn't a required option until 1975.So it's clear that the Firetruck has a bit of misinfo on it which probably took place after it was maybe modified and rebuilt during it's service. I own a 1958 American La France Series 900 Firetruck which is the original verison from ALF that used that COE Cab with the dual lights and blinkers,the Series 700's before 1958,going back twelve years from 1958,used those cabs also but with open roofs. The engine also is a 855 Big Cam ll Cummins Diesel,which was a engine used in these Firetrucks all over the country after Gasoline Straight Sixes from Continental were not being used any longer morely after 1966. My 1958 American La France Series 900 has a R883 Continental,which is the biggest Inline Engine that the Firetrucks from ALF ever had,among seven other remaining Inlines from Continental as well,and then ALF's infamous V12. The 855 became a HT855 Big Cam Cummins in 1985 for 5 Ton and 14-27 Ton Trucks in the American Military such as the M900-M939's from 1985-1999.I also own several decommissioned Military rigs that use that same engine.I even as well drove a M925A2 once as a Volunteer Firefighter that had a HT855 under the hood. I also have been following up on this Firetruck for a good while to.
I also want to add a little more,both batteries in these Firetrucks have to turned on at all times when you start the truck,A single 24V doesn't help to keep the vehicle running knowing that these rigs put out a massive amount of RPM's that suck battery juice,and then of course the lights are a big deal sometimes. Firetrucks are EXACTLY designed within the ignitions as Military Vehicles. My 1958 American La France Series 900 Firetruck with a R883 Continental has a Engine Lever on the leftside around the steer wheel with engage/disengage,circuit,basic controls,and fuel line buttons inside the cab.It's a bit different since mine has a gasoline engine and has water pumps which are engaged to the truck's massive five speed manual.But cranking a truck like my 1971 Kaiser M35A2 is very similar,with a Circuit Switch and one under it,and then a Engine Lever as well in the form of a handle right above and behind the steer wheel. Just like with certain Firetrucks,certain versions and categories of Military rigs have their required displays located or placed differently in their own Cabs,but it's not hard at all to do or figure out.It's mainly based on whether the Vehicle is Gasoline powered or Diesel powered since there are a few different requirements to do before cranking one with a Gasoline engine. I also own a 1947 Mack Type 85 Firetruck which has a ENF-707B Engine,it's a straight six gasser also,and has five sets of pairs in the engine for Twin/Dual operation like any Gasoline Powered Firetruck.But I think mine somehow was converted to a standard ignition since it has one,and it acts a bit funny when you crank it.
@@TexasBestMotorcycles My pleasure.It's still a very unique Firetruck.And I live in San Antonio Texas.I love this channel.I wish I could purchase it to add to my collection.
The hard suction hoses are for drafting water from a portable pond or other water source like a deep standing/flowing water source. If you were trying to hook it up to fire hydrant you be fighting with it to get it hooked up. And there would have to be a steamer fitting on the hydrant.
@@markcarpenter1550 You can and I have used the hard line to hook up to a plug. Otherwise, we'll drop either our five inch or two-and-a-half for distance like a reverse skid load.
Be nice to one another heaven's sakes it's Christmas some people do no more on fire engines and other things I happen to know some history on firefighting and fire engines and things like that I happen to have an uncle that lives in Red Oak well my hometown that is a volunteer firefighter on our department
NTF 365 NTA 855 number 2. I love these motors. My fd has a Howe 1974 straight stick with a 5 speed t906b. We finally retired em from service. I want to buy it and fix it up
R & J Restoration Station take your own comment and shove it up your ass. You don’t know what your talking about.... it’s a pto pump I’m in GSVFD, I even asked my LT.
I drove a '78 with the V6 Detroit diesel. 1250 gpm. Large black hose is for drafting water from a river lake etc. Cab is very similar. It was a fun rig to drive.
Oh, that thing is a beauty!
This is not a PTO Pump, it is a Transmission driven Pump that functions through a Transfer Case. To go into pump gear, you have a lever that you pull that disengages the transmission, and activates the Pump via the Transfer Case, then you place the Transmission into 4th Gear, and that completes the Road to Pump Shifting Process. It's strange that being an American LaFrance, it has a big Cummins Engine instead the usual 2 Stroke Detroit's that ALF Rigs typically used.
Yes that's a older one.my favorite is the usaf o11 a, American la france usaf,a fine fire truck.......the best the usaf ever had
Just to clear a few blanks up.The pumps on a Firetruck are not even close to being PTO's at all,they are engaged with the truck's Transmission,which is why when you use it the pumps while over 700 Psi and RPM's putting the truck in idle,it still adds up Hours and Miles to the truck's engine since the engine is what helps build up the whole process,obviously connected to the transmission.
That is also a late 1960's ALF Firetruck,with that cab,that wider and particular cab wasn't a required option until 1975.So it's clear that the Firetruck has a bit of misinfo on it which probably took place after it was maybe modified and rebuilt during it's service.
I own a 1958 American La France Series 900 Firetruck which is the original verison from ALF that used that COE Cab with the dual lights and blinkers,the Series 700's before 1958,going back twelve years from 1958,used those cabs also but with open roofs.
The engine also is a 855 Big Cam ll Cummins Diesel,which was a engine used in these Firetrucks all over the country after Gasoline Straight Sixes from Continental were not being used any longer morely after 1966.
My 1958 American La France Series 900 has a R883 Continental,which is the biggest Inline Engine that the Firetrucks from ALF ever had,among seven other remaining Inlines from Continental as well,and then ALF's infamous V12.
The 855 became a HT855 Big Cam Cummins in 1985 for 5 Ton and 14-27 Ton Trucks in the American Military such as the M900-M939's from 1985-1999.I also own several decommissioned Military rigs that use that same engine.I even as well drove a M925A2 once as a Volunteer Firefighter that had a HT855 under the hood.
I also have been following up on this Firetruck for a good while to.
I also want to add a little more,both batteries in these Firetrucks have to turned on at all times when you start the truck,A single 24V doesn't help to keep the vehicle running knowing that these rigs put out a massive amount of RPM's that suck battery juice,and then of course the lights are a big deal sometimes.
Firetrucks are EXACTLY designed within the ignitions as Military Vehicles.
My 1958 American La France Series 900 Firetruck with a R883 Continental has a Engine Lever on the leftside around the steer wheel with engage/disengage,circuit,basic controls,and fuel line buttons inside the cab.It's a bit different since mine has a gasoline engine and has water pumps which are engaged to the truck's massive five speed manual.But cranking a truck like my 1971 Kaiser M35A2 is very similar,with a Circuit Switch and one under it,and then a Engine Lever as well in the form of a handle right above and behind the steer wheel.
Just like with certain Firetrucks,certain versions and categories of Military rigs have their required displays located or placed differently in their own Cabs,but it's not hard at all to do or figure out.It's mainly based on whether the Vehicle is Gasoline powered or Diesel powered since there are a few different requirements to do before cranking one with a Gasoline engine.
I also own a 1947 Mack Type 85 Firetruck which has a ENF-707B Engine,it's a straight six gasser also,and has five sets of pairs in the engine for Twin/Dual operation like any Gasoline Powered Firetruck.But I think mine somehow was converted to a standard ignition since it has one,and it acts a bit funny when you crank it.
great info
@@TexasBestMotorcycles My pleasure.It's still a very unique Firetruck.And I live in San Antonio Texas.I love this channel.I wish I could purchase it to add to my collection.
"Some kinda connecter hoses". Those are hard suction hoses. You connect them from the hydrant to your pump.
The hard suction hoses are for drafting water from a portable pond or other water source like a deep standing/flowing water source. If you were trying to hook it up to fire hydrant you be fighting with it to get it hooked up. And there would have to be a steamer fitting on the hydrant.
@@markcarpenter1550 You can and I have used the hard line to hook up to a plug. Otherwise, we'll drop either our five inch or two-and-a-half for distance like a reverse skid load.
That truck looks nice it should go back in service in a different department
that's one hell of a fire truck ?
nice looking do you still have the engine I wood like to no
The wider cabs where called. Entry
Century. Series and startedzaround 19iu
1976
do you still have this rig, and what are yall asking
for it?
This is a 1960s ALF. Beginning in 1975, the cab was wider.
Well....he's saying it's a 1974. So if the wider cab began in 1975....would make sense this is narrower since it was built a year prior...wouldn't it?
it's a 74 I know this truck well
Century Series. This one here is a 900 series.
I believe a 900 Series
That’s not the original paint the truck use to belong to large volunteer fire department of Jefferson Hills PA and was yellow
Be nice to one another heaven's sakes it's Christmas some people do no more on fire engines and other things I happen to know some history on firefighting and fire engines and things like that I happen to have an uncle that lives in Red Oak well my hometown that is a volunteer firefighter on our department
This truck belonged to the fire department I belong to.
it's an 855 cummins II
NTF 365 NTA 855 number 2. I love these motors. My fd has a Howe 1974 straight stick with a 5 speed t906b. We finally retired em from service. I want to buy it and fix it up
That is not a PTO powered pump. He’s killing me with his ignorance of the truck. If you don’t know what you’re talking about...please don’t comment.
R & J Restoration Station take your own comment and shove it up your ass. You don’t know what your talking about.... it’s a pto pump I’m in GSVFD, I even asked my LT.
how much you asking for it
what ever happened to this engine?
NTF 365 855
#proudmemberofgsvfd #gallatinsunnysidevfd
As well nothing he said was wrong. I’m a member is this Dept, and I asked my LT and be said this guy is correct so correct yourselves.