Ok, the combustion myth was silly but we must admit that the idea of powerful offensive spells having a chance of making your limbs explode as you cast them is very much on brand when it comes to fear and hunger if not the dark fantasy genre in general.
For the heart attack, my theory is that they are thinking of the ghosts in the mines, who give you a heart attack if they hit you with Ruin three times. Ruin also damages mind, further leading me to believe this is the case
That's possible, I dunno why the connection between miasma and low mind events came to my mind first, but still yeah that's another possible explanation!
I think it’s because the girl will die if you don’t keep her mind up. She leaves the party after her mind drops too low, and then if you take too long to give her ale or something, she’ll die.
@@cher2815 that's actually for all characters. A better way to describe it is if a person loses sanity to a certain point and then crosses into certain areas they will leave the party. When you exit the room they are in they have a chance of dying which I believe is 25% but take that with a grain of salt.
@@ok-ue4ub Might have to point at SuperEyepatchWolf's video for this one, he made it seem like Enki-turned-Marriage was an OP build that helped carry him through some of his very first playthroughs when you can perform a marriage with any character under the right circumstances, but he's also SEW and one of the driving factors of the game's resurgence since so many people watch his content. That's more an issue with his essay style of building off of preconceived notions to make a point about a subject as well his relative inexperience with the game at the time and playing completely blind; he had never used the Hexen to learn spells at this point or crafted anything other than torches as examples, the amount he learned from the chat just streaming it is kind of astonishing
@@BrokenToews Definitely can't blame SEW for that, he was pretty clear that he was *not* an expert on Fear & Hunger and it was just something that caught his attention and he fell in love with.
@@renatocorvaro6924 Oh I don't doubt he didn't intend for it to be the case, but I'm guilty of choosing Enki for my first few runs specifically because of that video and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It's not his fault, just a byproduct of how the game was sold to me lmao. I don't keep up with the community religiously so I can't say if it destroyed the image of doing a Necro run but knowing how people on the internet act it wouldn't surprise me if there was some discourse over the effectiveness of how he played the game vs. how people learned to play it after that video had been out for a while
Imagine he boots up a stream doing a fake challenge run and uses combustion until his limbs blow off. Everybody would be so confused @@crispypeepohole69
I played F&H2 completely blind. Except for 2 times I asked the community discord about where to go when I got lost. BOTH TIMES THEY GAVE ME THE WRONG INFORMATION.
Some people will stamp their feet and insist they are correct when you show them the literal source code of the game. We call these people "Fandom wiki users".
While I understand the logic, I still think the heart attack thing is people confusing the game for Darkest Dungeon. DD is infamous for being a difficult dungeon crawler with: - a sanity mechanic (stress) - permadeath - turn based combat with an emphasis on exploiting weaknesses - rng events that can make or break a run - involves delving into a dungeon filled with eldritch beings - has both torch and hunger mechanics - has various semi-permanent debuffs characters can get (including specific phobias) Obviously the games are not that similar if you've actually played both but I can see why at a cursory glance people would assume it has a similar mechanic.
@@frapollo94 I remember believing that, it just felt really "natural" Funger is known for its difficulty and I thought it made more sense for the game to outright kill you than just give you a big debuff. I thought panophobia was a thing you got "earlier"
@frapollo94 I assume it was a crossed wires moment, I've definitely played similar games and been confused as to why a mechanic in one wasn't in the other only to remember that I was, yknow, playing a different game
@@frapollo94I mean I came here after playing Darkest Dungeon, and with zero community interaction assumed it would work the same way. I get what you say about it being weird, but if youve played only one other game with a similar mind/stress/sanity mechanic, its kind of natural for your brain to assume the same outcome, even if its not actually based on anything other than flawed pattern recognition.
I remember reading the miasma description where it says that the weapon deals otherworldly damage. You can imagine my surprise when I started a battle with a miner spectre and found myself dealing 0 damage...
People liking the Girl in combat probably comes from a place of "She initially seems useless, but becomes much less useless once you dig deeper" when people first do a playthrough with her.
It might also be just a bit overvalued despite being a viable caster is not special or unique to her because she has nothing better to do with her turns when other characters can swing for the fences thanks to their weapon options.
@@gtf234 From my experience on what makes her a 'Good Mage.' is the control you have since Skeleton and Ghouls are AI controlled so i fear giving them spells. My usual team is Rag, D'arce, Girl, Chara or Moonless as i usually go for quickest recruits. And so since my team is so melee built giving her spells is the best way to keep her alive and assist the team.
I make Moonless my mage lol Double casts each turn and I don’t really care when she’s out of mind. If I need her to spam magic I just increase her mind a bit
i remember when i first started playing and got into the temple of torment and it said there were "meat eating flies" i thought all the characters in my party would slowly die because i was losing hp. 1. my main character was the only one in the party. 2. he was poisoned.
Another reason for the fear heart attack misconception could be that letting the hunger meter reach 100 does actually kill you so they probably assumed something equally bad would happen when mind reached 0
I swear to god i have a similar mandella effect of deja vu where i went insane when reaching 0 mind on the hardest mode. No heart attack, though. Just insane. But i guess it was just the gro-goroth book mingling in
No matter what fandom, we are all joined in hatred of fandom wikis. good lord some of the stuff in those are so very wrong it makes me want to tear my hair out. literally the only damn website people will add stuff to and be like "source: crack pipe" and people will site it to you to try and say you're wrong about something. one of the biggest ones i see across all kinds of fandoms is the fandom wiki "age" catagory being filled on... characters who dont have. any ages. stated... its just their headcanons.
@@hmg9559 I think they're equally likely to be wrong as all hell, but by virtue of Fandom being the big one most of the time, at least Fandom has a higher chance of someone's "UM AKSHUALLY" to kick in and correct things.
@@neoqwertyI will never stop giving Fandom shit for the underhanded ways they keep their wikis high on the SEO (so that even if there is another official wiki on the game you will end up on their site anyway unless you dig deeper into the Google search results) and for how they hold wikis "ransom" by silencing anyone even mentioning the idea of migrating to other platforms.
Characters with non-canon ages/species has to be the most infuriating thing a fandom can experience, imo. Can't tell you how sick I am of people saying "Klee from Genshin is an elf and actually like 500 years old", despite elves not being a confirmed species (pointy ears + long life doesn't automatically mean "elf") and there being absolutely nothing suggesting that Klee's species ages slower or anything. HoYo games in general have a nasty trend of the fandom just making up headcanon for the characters and then attacking anyone who doesn't agree. "[insert character here] is literally 15!!1!" *insert scene of them talking about an event they witnessed 20+ years ago while they were working a full time job*
During one of my early playthroughs of Fear and Hunger, I was terribly unlucky with items that increase my character's mind, and as a result, my mind dropped to zero, the character did not die and game over did not happen. But when I finally found an item that could increase mind... I simply could not use it... All the items in my inventory became impossible to use... Obviously it was a bug... But since then I thought that if your sanity drops to zero, then your character conditionally goes crazy, becomes unable to use any items from the inventory and simply dies a slow and painful death from hunger, bleeding or infection, if he is lucky enough not to stumble upon the local inhabitants... Truly a fate worthy of Fear and Hunger.
for the longest time the fandom wiki had completely made up last names for marina and levi and a bunch of people just took it as fact even though marina would probably just have her dads last name, which is stated in the game. so interesting
The "arrows dont consume during battle" was the most minblowing thing for me ever. It makes sense for balance, else the bow would be kinda useless unless you had another weapon. But since bullets get consumed in termina I never thought arrows wouldnt be consumed in funger 1.
21:47 Probably caused by the super eye patch wolf video, because there he says that the girl was a powerful mage in his party by the end of the game, because she can learn every spell.
You're mixing things up, wolf never talked about the girl a single time in that video, it's zuldim I think who said it and even then his argument was more along the lines of because girl sucks it makes more sense to buff her with scrolls rather then the party members who can already do good things, though it could also be extra reinforced by connerdawg also using girl as a mage on his playthrough
I don't really know why anyone qualifies the girl with "she can learn every spell." Is there anyone who can't? I'm pretty sure you can teach Moonless magic if you want to.
I think the thing that confused people about 20:50 is because there was a pretty popular video by @ZuldimYT that mentioned about the girl being a pretty good mage. He talked about it in that way since he purposed all of his other characters in different archetypes that having the girl be mage is good since she doesn't deal good physical damage anyway. He talked about how the girl is a blank slate and that she can be pretty much anything you want her to be.
honestly I believed the lie about combustion for so long just because the spell being good for not costing any mind is just way too good to be true in this game
I saw someone do a playthrough, and upon destroying the last "Depths organ" they went to the opened maw and that's when they found the Cavedweller village massacred by 2 wandering Moonless Guards, so I had just assumed they crawled out of the giant maw after it opened and that's how it it usually occurred.
It's more complex, glass shards apply 2 different types of blindness, those arms are immune to only 1 of the 2. So, yes, they can be technically blinded
I have a feeling that for the losing your mind, people are just misremembering the ancient book since it says you go insane if you lose the coin flip (Which happened to you on the background gameplay) so they probably had that happen then just merged the mind stat with that in their memory
So, just to give a heads up, there IS actually a way to die of a heart attack in Fear and Hunger, but it has nothing to do with the Mind Bar. In the event that you encounter a Ghost enemy in the Mines (or the Narrow Passage, for you Scissor Lovers), they will hit you with the Ruin spell. This, after the first two uses, lowers Mind slightly, and makes your character PHYSICALLY older. After the third use, your character dies from a heart attack brought on by old age. I think that this unfortunate soul just had the circumstances of Ruin bringing their Mind down to 0 at the same time as that third hit would give the impression that it was caused by the former instead of the latter. This is also likely because you won't notice that your characters have PHYSICALLY AGED without taking time to really give them a look in the party menu, something I didn't do or realize until well into my 20th or maybe even 30th run.
There is a hidden code in the game that rules: if you name Ragnavaldr Jorato Koujo and meet Legarde you unblock a Stand. Trust me it was revealed to me in a dream.
@frapollo94 to be fair, the creator says, (paraphrasing)"I used this strategy to win, and thought it was the best one. I then checked out other people's strategies, and they were completely different, and sometimes more successful than mine."
For Funger 2, the wiki says that the Heartless One's end of the turn special attack can remove a limb even if you have the Salmonsnake Rune equipped. That's very untrue, at least in the version I played
Great video! Would you ever consider making a video talking about the different random map and enemy layouts for the dungeon and which you think is the easiest for hard mode or something? For example I really like the layout where the level 5 mines ritual circle is right next to the salmonsnake room and hate the layout where you have to walk all the way around. There's also the layout in the thicket where you can get 99 lucky coins due to an oversight. I think you could also talk about the most/least inconvenient spawns for the elite guards like how they can spawn in the basement or by the human hyrda. Just something to consider. Cheers!
YOOOOO BUDDY THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT! You know, I was thinking about something similar, but every time I figure it in my mind it seems boring, like, imagine someone showing you all the different maps for each zone. Maybe I am just bad at explaining
@@frapollo94 Understandable. I guess that sort of video would mostly appeal to the hardcore funger players like me that did all the S endings runs which is basically a minority of a minority
My first exposure to the f&h was Super Eye Patch Wolf vid which definitely has some incorrect information. For example thinking not all characters can get dash.
I feel like the Girl mage build chatter must have come from Zuldim's video, which is how a lot of people learned about the game existing before SEW's video came out.
i think in an earlier ver of fear and hunger you could eat dirt to restore a few points of hunger. there’s this streamer (tolomeo) who played the game just a few months after it came out and I recall him eating dirt to restore 7 hunger if I remember correctly 😭
the heart attack thing is driving me crazy because I so clearly remember one time when I died from sa heart attack and I thought it was so funny that I told my friends about it on discord, I know it wasn't from low sanity tho since I keep that up pretty well but still, it's crazy how I can remember that so clearly and even have proof I told my friends about it when it's not even supposed to be a thing it baffels me
8:09 Surprisingly, Miasma actually oozes toxic gases in F&H2, in a boss fight against Moonless I guess new players that watched a lot of videos, but never played themselfs, could think that miasma does this in a first game as well
Imo the girl makes a good mage because she deals very little damage with basic attacks. On my run I used her as a support with the party healing spell, aswell as using consumables on her turn, literally carried the whole run on her shoulders
If you name your character SANS there's actually secret dialogue if you beat the entire game without getting hit or killing a single enemy. Gro'goroth will have special secret ending S speech about EXP actually being "EXECUTION POINTS"
When you talked about misinformation on the internet shortly before the outro, i honestly expected a VPN sponsorship segue. RUclips has conditioned me like some dog or ape.
No words could describe the happiness I felt when I was greeted with poke-myths at the start of the video. This is why Frapollo is the best f&h youtuber
I have been told by the fandom wiki to first interact with le'griffith THEN Isayah OR the Crow mauler will spawn. After a long battle with the crow mauler, I founded out that Wiki lied in my face
I wonder what the job application looks like for applying for the position of Gro'Goroth's belt-buckle/c___-sleeve? Where would you even pick one up? It's not like the internet exists in that world/era... a Help Wanted ad in the paper? I imagine that would be an incredibly vivid job advertisement -and it would probably make your nose bleed after reading it.
I assume the Cahara death rumour is due to the fact that if he doesn't join your party when you find him in the mines (due to you having too many members), you find him dead around there later. It happened to me, and in a hand-drawn map I made of the mines, I even marked where his corpse was.
HEY! IM GONNA DEFEND MYSELF: With the panophobia thing, you know, i didnt know if i die or not, already knew the panophobia for reading but ACTUALLY believe something awful would happen. AAAAAND im playing fear and hunger for love sake, OBVIUSLYYYY am already traumatized. Its understandable.
i think the reason people emphasize The Girl as a spellcaster is because since she's a semi-mandatory party member, people are looking at her Damage Per Turn difference between unarmed -> spell casting and seeing its a higher difference than a main character switching from Miasma, SS, or scythe -> spell casting
From your first fear and hunger ending video with your cheap mic and less then enthusiastic voice about it to now it’s great to hear the happiness in your voice with all your videos stay doing you brother you’ve improved 5000fold over and your content is fun to watch. Got me to watch all the Lisa playthroughs to 🤣
Once again frappolo cooks with his videos 🔥🔥 Speaking of cooking... What i find funny is that mix of red & green heal is burn type so Rag's starter fur armor increasing damage from burn... Increases heal from it! Not sure have you said about that anywhere in videos but for me that's hella funny how F&H is so dark to the point of heal being damage, just opposite
You know, the link between people thinking of Darkest Dungeon in relation to Fear and Hunger might be the fact they're both games about dungeons with grueling difficulty curves, they share a similar vibe and when you don't know much about a game, but hear 'oh yeah, if your character's mental stability hits nothing they'll have a heart attack' its like... 'I don't know much about these games, what game has that spooky vibe and a dungeon that both track people's mental faculties does that belong to?' Of course, its still a little silly.
Yeah I feel like the incredulity, while obviously played up, was a little much. It's completely expected for people to make an assumption about a game they know nothing about based on similar games they've played previously.
I remember playing Fear & Hunger's demo back in 2018 and the characters died upon reaching 0 mind, but I don't remember it being specifically from heart attack. I've never played that game mentioned or interacted much with the fanbase.
never have i been more upset to watch a video so soon after release, you leave this cliffhanger about 2 mysterious characters to be talked about and there is not a video for me to watch now TT^TT
Frapollo love your videos. I wonder do you think there will be another fear and hunger game and if so would you rather it followed the castle theme of the original or the theme of termina or a whole new theme and what would you prefer. It would be cool if you did a video with a wishlist of things you would like in a sequel
I think the reason why people think 0 mind causes heart attack is because when you leave the room of a party member that left because of a mind event, it will say that there's no 'apparent' reason that they died- but it's possible that the cause is heart attack
The funny part is that I played some of my first playthroughs with the "0-Mind = Game over" preconception, but I didn't assume heart attack. Among some of my first experiences with F&H was finding the ancient book. During it's coin flip fail scenario, the game tells you how you "Lose your mind." Then, later in the run, I began to feel the effects of lowering mind, with messages about my characters panicking, getting the suicide-skill and party-members attempting to leave the party as they become delirious. At the time, it made sense to me. The game has communicated to me that insanity is a fail-state of the game and given that the game quantifies your willpower through mind, I was afraid that was the implication of it. Says something of the relatively high number of healing items the game gives, when I could get as deep as I did in those early runs without even having to face 0 mind, but I think that this might be another piece of the puzzle to this urban legend. I can only assume that other people have had that same experience as me, either making assumptions based on flimsy evidence or straight-up misremembering the ancient book event and going off of that.
As a person who hasn't played Fear and Hunger myself I disagree with the last fact about the girl The girl gets the unofficial magical girl buff if she learn those spells
I was gonna type a cool comment about how the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure community once spread complete misinformation about the plot of the show because of a parody video making a joke, and then blaming the author for a plot hole that didn't exist kind of like people mixing up Darkest Dungeon and F&H. Then I remembered Frap doesn't really like JJBA so nevermind >:( (Great video btw)
Ok, the combustion myth was silly but we must admit that the idea of powerful offensive spells having a chance of making your limbs explode as you cast them is very much on brand when it comes to fear and hunger if not the dark fantasy genre in general.
Why do you think wizards use either staffs, wands or other catalysts? :T
Right? I was honestly surprised that it wasn't in the game, just feels like something that would be added
@@XXLPIakat Doesn't save the player from Noita anyways lol
@@devildante9 let’s be 100 percent fair.
Even if you shoot a nuke out of a gun, you’re not safe from it any more than if you throw it. 💀💀💀💀
The Literal Head combusting Literal Elder Gods despite not having a catalyst or limbs:
"You don't think much, do ya worm"
The ancient records say that if you click 100 times on the dead horse at the beginning of the game, you unlock mew as a playable character…
Shadow the hedgehog
Kevin Lannister?
Mewinh
Only on hard mode, and you can’t go in the dungeon first, or else it won’t work. Trust me guys, my uncle is Miro
You can now play as Luigi
For the heart attack, my theory is that they are thinking of the ghosts in the mines, who give you a heart attack if they hit you with Ruin three times. Ruin also damages mind, further leading me to believe this is the case
That's possible, I dunno why the connection between miasma and low mind events came to my mind first, but still yeah that's another possible explanation!
I think it’s because the girl will die if you don’t keep her mind up. She leaves the party after her mind drops too low, and then if you take too long to give her ale or something, she’ll die.
@@cher2815 that happens to all party members (other than the main character ofc)
@@cher2815 that's actually for all characters.
A better way to describe it is if a person loses sanity to a certain point and then crosses into certain areas they will leave the party. When you exit the room they are in they have a chance of dying which I believe is 25% but take that with a grain of salt.
@@Mini-se6cxyeah main character gets ptsd instead tho
> Frapollo says two characters were completely destroyed by opinions online
> Refuses to elaborate
> Leaves
Who are those two?
@@ok-ue4ub the lord of flies looking like gordon ramsey, dont know what the other one is
@@ok-ue4ub Might have to point at SuperEyepatchWolf's video for this one, he made it seem like Enki-turned-Marriage was an OP build that helped carry him through some of his very first playthroughs when you can perform a marriage with any character under the right circumstances, but he's also SEW and one of the driving factors of the game's resurgence since so many people watch his content. That's more an issue with his essay style of building off of preconceived notions to make a point about a subject as well his relative inexperience with the game at the time and playing completely blind; he had never used the Hexen to learn spells at this point or crafted anything other than torches as examples, the amount he learned from the chat just streaming it is kind of astonishing
@@BrokenToews Definitely can't blame SEW for that, he was pretty clear that he was *not* an expert on Fear & Hunger and it was just something that caught his attention and he fell in love with.
@@renatocorvaro6924 Oh I don't doubt he didn't intend for it to be the case, but I'm guilty of choosing Enki for my first few runs specifically because of that video and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It's not his fault, just a byproduct of how the game was sold to me lmao. I don't keep up with the community religiously so I can't say if it destroyed the image of doing a Necro run but knowing how people on the internet act it wouldn't surprise me if there was some discourse over the effectiveness of how he played the game vs. how people learned to play it after that video had been out for a while
Mod idea: recreate the myths so they can happen in the game and then gaslight your viewers on stream. Perfect plan guaranteed.
HMMMM
Do it, you know you want to lol. Peer pressure. Peer pressure. Peer pressure... is it working?
Fear and hunger, Myths and BS edition
@@frapollo94pings you for a reminder today mwhahahaha
Imagine he boots up a stream doing a fake challenge run and uses combustion until his limbs blow off. Everybody would be so confused @@crispypeepohole69
I played F&H2 completely blind. Except for 2 times I asked the community discord about where to go when I got lost. BOTH TIMES THEY GAVE ME THE WRONG INFORMATION.
discord is only useful for getting groomed bro
Truth@@cheeseistaken
Lmao that's the spirit
Some people will stamp their feet and insist they are correct when you show them the literal source code of the game. We call these people "Fandom wiki users".
god i am so thankful for wiki.gg
Fake fact #21: Fear & Hunger fans actually played the games.
Lol I'm too terrified to play so I watch others play. I bought Fear and Hunger and Fear And Hunger 2😂
@@skyyyyyskyyyy fear went away in first 30 minutes maybe you need to play it
DO YOU GUYS NOT PLAY THE GAMES?????
fr lmaooo
@@PizzaManIsHere damn it took you 30 minutes? Ig im chickenshit
While I understand the logic, I still think the heart attack thing is people confusing the game for Darkest Dungeon. DD is infamous for being a difficult dungeon crawler with:
- a sanity mechanic (stress)
- permadeath
- turn based combat with an emphasis on exploiting weaknesses
- rng events that can make or break a run
- involves delving into a dungeon filled with eldritch beings
- has both torch and hunger mechanics
- has various semi-permanent debuffs characters can get (including specific phobias)
Obviously the games are not that similar if you've actually played both but I can see why at a cursory glance people would assume it has a similar mechanic.
That, and that when you lose allies to the sanity event, they "Died clutching their chest"
I dunno it still seems weird to me honestly, but maybe I am the weird one here lol
@@frapollo94 I remember believing that, it just felt really "natural"
Funger is known for its difficulty and I thought it made more sense for the game to outright kill you than just give you a big debuff. I thought panophobia was a thing you got "earlier"
@frapollo94 I assume it was a crossed wires moment, I've definitely played similar games and been confused as to why a mechanic in one wasn't in the other only to remember that I was, yknow, playing a different game
@@frapollo94I mean I came here after playing Darkest Dungeon, and with zero community interaction assumed it would work the same way. I get what you say about it being weird, but if youve played only one other game with a similar mind/stress/sanity mechanic, its kind of natural for your brain to assume the same outcome, even if its not actually based on anything other than flawed pattern recognition.
how funny would that be if the one actually writing all the misinformation in the fandom wiki was miro himself disguised
I remember reading the miasma description where it says that the weapon deals otherworldly damage. You can imagine my surprise when I started a battle with a miner spectre and found myself dealing 0 damage...
Well yeah everything is otherworldly, so they'd be used to it lol
You can't fool me, Frapuccino
But can the wiki?
@@frapollo94 As you passionately explained in the video, the answer to that very much changes depending on which one you're talking about
People liking the Girl in combat probably comes from a place of "She initially seems useless, but becomes much less useless once you dig deeper" when people first do a playthrough with her.
my girl has 0 skills, she's useless and i hate her
It might also be just a bit overvalued despite being a viable caster is not special or unique to her because she has nothing better to do with her turns when other characters can swing for the fences thanks to their weapon options.
@@gtf234 From my experience on what makes her a 'Good Mage.' is the control you have since Skeleton and Ghouls are AI controlled so i fear giving them spells.
My usual team is Rag, D'arce, Girl, Chara or Moonless as i usually go for quickest recruits. And so since my team is so melee built giving her spells is the best way to keep her alive and assist the team.
I make Moonless my mage lol
Double casts each turn and I don’t really care when she’s out of mind. If I need her to spam magic I just increase her mind a bit
15:00 Frapollo caught using Guard on an extra turn:
Honestly when I record footage I am so relaxed that I make so many mistakes lol
Fake gamer alert
@@pandabanaan9208 true gamers are always locked in 100% on a game/hating minorities and women
i remember when i first started playing and got into the temple of torment and it said there were "meat eating flies" i thought all the characters in my party would slowly die because i was losing hp.
1. my main character was the only one in the party.
2. he was poisoned.
Another reason for the fear heart attack misconception could be that letting the hunger meter reach 100 does actually kill you so they probably assumed something equally bad would happen when mind reached 0
I swear to god i have a similar mandella effect of deja vu where i went insane when reaching 0 mind on the hardest mode.
No heart attack, though. Just insane. But i guess it was just the gro-goroth book mingling in
Nah it was just darkest dungeon's influence
Because the games are similar in some aspects
war scythe is actually crazy cause you can take a bite of it to restore one hunger
(making shit up)
Wdym making shit up? that's how it works
No matter what fandom, we are all joined in hatred of fandom wikis. good lord some of the stuff in those are so very wrong it makes me want to tear my hair out. literally the only damn website people will add stuff to and be like "source: crack pipe" and people will site it to you to try and say you're wrong about something.
one of the biggest ones i see across all kinds of fandoms is the fandom wiki "age" catagory being filled on... characters who dont have. any ages. stated... its just their headcanons.
I dunno… my hatred for Fextralife wikis runs deeper than for the Fandom wikis
@@hmg9559So true
@@hmg9559 I think they're equally likely to be wrong as all hell, but by virtue of Fandom being the big one most of the time, at least Fandom has a higher chance of someone's "UM AKSHUALLY" to kick in and correct things.
@@neoqwertyI will never stop giving Fandom shit for the underhanded ways they keep their wikis high on the SEO (so that even if there is another official wiki on the game you will end up on their site anyway unless you dig deeper into the Google search results) and for how they hold wikis "ransom" by silencing anyone even mentioning the idea of migrating to other platforms.
Characters with non-canon ages/species has to be the most infuriating thing a fandom can experience, imo. Can't tell you how sick I am of people saying "Klee from Genshin is an elf and actually like 500 years old", despite elves not being a confirmed species (pointy ears + long life doesn't automatically mean "elf") and there being absolutely nothing suggesting that Klee's species ages slower or anything.
HoYo games in general have a nasty trend of the fandom just making up headcanon for the characters and then attacking anyone who doesn't agree. "[insert character here] is literally 15!!1!" *insert scene of them talking about an event they witnessed 20+ years ago while they were working a full time job*
During one of my early playthroughs of Fear and Hunger, I was terribly unlucky with items that increase my character's mind, and as a result, my mind dropped to zero, the character did not die and game over did not happen. But when I finally found an item that could increase mind... I simply could not use it... All the items in my inventory became impossible to use... Obviously it was a bug... But since then I thought that if your sanity drops to zero, then your character conditionally goes crazy, becomes unable to use any items from the inventory and simply dies a slow and painful death from hunger, bleeding or infection, if he is lucky enough not to stumble upon the local inhabitants... Truly a fate worthy of Fear and Hunger.
What 2 seconds without zaza does to a mf
for the longest time the fandom wiki had completely made up last names for marina and levi and a bunch of people just took it as fact even though marina would probably just have her dads last name, which is stated in the game. so interesting
even since the niche days F&H had the most unreliable wiki ever
The "arrows dont consume during battle" was the most minblowing thing for me ever. It makes sense for balance, else the bow would be kinda useless unless you had another weapon. But since bullets get consumed in termina I never thought arrows wouldnt be consumed in funger 1.
21:47 Probably caused by the super eye patch wolf video, because there he says that the girl was a powerful mage in his party by the end of the game, because she can learn every spell.
You're mixing things up, wolf never talked about the girl a single time in that video, it's zuldim I think who said it and even then his argument was more along the lines of because girl sucks it makes more sense to buff her with scrolls rather then the party members who can already do good things, though it could also be extra reinforced by connerdawg also using girl as a mage on his playthrough
I don't really know why anyone qualifies the girl with "she can learn every spell." Is there anyone who can't? I'm pretty sure you can teach Moonless magic if you want to.
I think the thing that confused people about 20:50 is because there was a pretty popular video by @ZuldimYT that mentioned about the girl being a pretty good mage. He talked about it in that way since he purposed all of his other characters in different archetypes that having the girl be mage is good since she doesn't deal good physical damage anyway. He talked about how the girl is a blank slate and that she can be pretty much anything you want her to be.
Oh... blank slate... exactly what the commenter said...
honestly I believed the lie about combustion for so long just because the spell being good for not costing any mind is just way too good to be true in this game
That's very true honestly, but then again, we have black orb
I still believe this property was supposed to be in game, it's just that Miro hadn't found a way to code it.
I saw someone do a playthrough, and upon destroying the last "Depths organ" they went to the opened maw and that's when they found the Cavedweller village massacred by 2 wandering Moonless Guards, so I had just assumed they crawled out of the giant maw after it opened and that's how it it usually occurred.
That's a very fair thought
To this day i'm not that sure if throwing Glass at the Sergal's arms really "blinds" them, but i'm too afraid to test my luck lol.
It's more complex, glass shards apply 2 different types of blindness, those arms are immune to only 1 of the 2. So, yes, they can be technically blinded
Miro is partially once the problem then wiki fandom continued his lineage.
In another universe Miro is the Fandom Wiki Admin
We truly live in the darkest and hungriest timeline
I have a feeling that for the losing your mind, people are just misremembering the ancient book since it says you go insane if you lose the coin flip (Which happened to you on the background gameplay) so they probably had that happen then just merged the mind stat with that in their memory
So, just to give a heads up, there IS actually a way to die of a heart attack in Fear and Hunger, but it has nothing to do with the Mind Bar. In the event that you encounter a Ghost enemy in the Mines (or the Narrow Passage, for you Scissor Lovers), they will hit you with the Ruin spell. This, after the first two uses, lowers Mind slightly, and makes your character PHYSICALLY older. After the third use, your character dies from a heart attack brought on by old age. I think that this unfortunate soul just had the circumstances of Ruin bringing their Mind down to 0 at the same time as that third hit would give the impression that it was caused by the former instead of the latter. This is also likely because you won't notice that your characters have PHYSICALLY AGED without taking time to really give them a look in the party menu, something I didn't do or realize until well into my 20th or maybe even 30th run.
today I learned penance armor DOES protect from peck
There is a hidden code in the game that rules: if you name Ragnavaldr Jorato Koujo and meet Legarde you unblock a Stand. Trust me it was revealed to me in a dream.
It was stated in cfyow
The girl thing was people thinking that the video "Fear and Hunger: an in-depth look at the RPG that hates you" contains the only viable strategy
DAMN THAT VIDEO
@frapollo94 to be fair, the creator says, (paraphrasing)"I used this strategy to win, and thought it was the best one. I then checked out other people's strategies, and they were completely different, and sometimes more successful than mine."
@@frapollo94it definitely helped make the game more popular but so many ppl took it as gospel without even trying the game 😭
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For Funger 2, the wiki says that the Heartless One's end of the turn special attack can remove a limb even if you have the Salmonsnake Rune equipped. That's very untrue, at least in the version I played
That moment when your “”mage who you’ve dedicated every spell to starts breakdancing
Great video! Would you ever consider making a video talking about the different random map and enemy layouts for the dungeon and which you think is the easiest for hard mode or something? For example I really like the layout where the level 5 mines ritual circle is right next to the salmonsnake room and hate the layout where you have to walk all the way around. There's also the layout in the thicket where you can get 99 lucky coins due to an oversight. I think you could also talk about the most/least inconvenient spawns for the elite guards like how they can spawn in the basement or by the human hyrda. Just something to consider. Cheers!
YOOOOO BUDDY THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT!
You know, I was thinking about something similar, but every time I figure it in my mind it seems boring, like, imagine someone showing you all the different maps for each zone. Maybe I am just bad at explaining
@@frapollo94 Understandable. I guess that sort of video would mostly appeal to the hardcore funger players like me that did all the S endings runs which is basically a minority of a minority
My first exposure to the f&h was Super Eye Patch Wolf vid which definitely has some incorrect information. For example thinking not all characters can get dash.
People probably mix up reaching 0 mind event with the "Ruin" attack from Miner spectre. If you get hit 3 times by "Ruin" you die from a heart attack
I feel like the Girl mage build chatter must have come from Zuldim's video, which is how a lot of people learned about the game existing before SEW's video came out.
Fandom wiki: "Random bullshit go!" meme
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I love you too
I love him way more than you do
We can love him together. That's what Harems are for.
Human Hydra when?!
@@redundantfridge9764 hell naw
7:10 'Vision of False Truths" lil bro lived up to his discord handle
This is what happens in the modern age where people are diehard fans of things they haven't even played.
i think in an earlier ver of fear and hunger you could eat dirt to restore a few points of hunger. there’s this streamer (tolomeo) who played the game just a few months after it came out and I recall him eating dirt to restore 7 hunger if I remember correctly 😭
the heart attack thing is driving me crazy because I so clearly remember one time when I died from sa heart attack and I thought it was so funny that I told my friends about it on discord, I know it wasn't from low sanity tho since I keep that up pretty well but still, it's crazy how I can remember that so clearly and even have proof I told my friends about it when it's not even supposed to be a thing it baffels me
Is it possible that you are thinking of miner spectre using Ruin?
@@frapollo94 That's probably it then, it makes more sense
Frapollo on his quest to preach the good word of testing things yourself
i love that you used toby fox music in the background! i was watching and jamming lol. my two hyperfixations in one
God, why is it always fandom wiki? Thank god we have the tormentpedia
8:09 Surprisingly, Miasma actually oozes toxic gases in F&H2, in a boss fight against Moonless
I guess new players that watched a lot of videos, but never played themselfs, could think that miasma does this in a first game as well
The only thing that Funger players hate with all their hearts is just a fandom wiki.
Frapollo you are the best, i just started watching your streams and you are just as charming in there as in your videos
Awwww thank you so much!
Imo the girl makes a good mage because she deals very little damage with basic attacks. On my run I used her as a support with the party healing spell, aswell as using consumables on her turn, literally carried the whole run on her shoulders
Oh wow, I arrived pretty soon. Keep up the good work Frap! So sadge the Lona videos are gone.
Thanks buddy! Yeah I'm sorry but I thought it was better to revamp the channel and make it more oriented towards the new style of videos
@@frapollo94 Oh I'm really liking the new style of videos! I hope you don't ditch Paradox and Black Souls though, those videos are pretty good too!
My favorite part of the wiki is the part where the skeleton page is replaced with sans undertale
If you name your character SANS there's actually secret dialogue if you beat the entire game without getting hit or killing a single enemy. Gro'goroth will have special secret ending S speech about EXP actually being "EXECUTION POINTS"
And don't forget sylvian mentioning LOVE being level of Vinushka Embryo
Thing is, with the Ritual Spear, when the cavedwellers use it, it DOES poison you, so I don't blame people for thinking it didn't poison at all!
Yeah I don't blame them either
Frapollo: "Fandom wiki is a garbage source of information for Fear and hunger."
Me: Yeah, that checks out.
Love your videos, Happy Birthday Frappolo!
I miss playground rumors so much, F&H is the closest I can get to that experience again lmao
Honestly the losing arrows through using a bow jn combat feels like it also comes from playig termina and guns using ammo when theyre used in combat
When you talked about misinformation on the internet shortly before the outro, i honestly expected a VPN sponsorship segue. RUclips has conditioned me like some dog or ape.
Joke's on you, sponsors sometimes explicitly require the ad to be present in the first minutes of the video
humans are apes so that would check out
I’m pretty sure the myth of the girl being the best mage also came from the Super eyepatch wolf video, he talked about he liked giving the girl spells
I thought zero mind causes you to have coinflip on every turn but it's because of how it worked in Termina and I never had low mind in first game
No words could describe the happiness I felt when I was greeted with poke-myths at the start of the video. This is why Frapollo is the best f&h youtuber
WHY THE POKEMON INTRO IM LIT HAVING A HIPERFOCUS ON POKEMON AND FUNGER LIKE HOW DID YOU KNOW
I think we're passing through a similar moment lol
I will believe you on the mind thing, but I could've sweared I once got a game over from having 0 mind and going insane
That's, my friend, the definition of a mandela effect
@@frapollo94fair
Honestly i fall asleep to frapolo vids, such a calming voice :)
This is a video I never thought I needed.
Once again thanks Frapollo you have done it again.
You should write a Fear & Hunger guide. With the mentions of urban legends that are indicated as false.
I have been told by the fandom wiki to first interact with le'griffith THEN Isayah OR the Crow mauler will spawn. After a long battle with the crow mauler, I founded out that Wiki lied in my face
I wonder what the job application looks like for applying for the position of Gro'Goroth's belt-buckle/c___-sleeve? Where would you even pick one up? It's not like the internet exists in that world/era... a Help Wanted ad in the paper? I imagine that would be an incredibly vivid job advertisement -and it would probably make your nose bleed after reading it.
Not gonna lie, I was 100% convinced you die from heart attack at 0 mind. Solely because of darkest dungeon
I assume the Cahara death rumour is due to the fact that if he doesn't join your party when you find him in the mines (due to you having too many members), you find him dead around there later. It happened to me, and in a hand-drawn map I made of the mines, I even marked where his corpse was.
8:09 i get the feeling they used that idea for Termina, since in the game when you fight Moonless, Miasma poisons you if you dont destroy it fast
A new frapollo video is always a great day to get up in the morning ❤
this channel is one of the main reasons i got into funger, love the content!!
HEY! IM GONNA DEFEND MYSELF:
With the panophobia thing, you know, i didnt know if i die or not, already knew the panophobia for reading but ACTUALLY believe something awful would happen. AAAAAND im playing fear and hunger for love sake, OBVIUSLYYYY am already traumatized. Its understandable.
Yeah, defence denied, go to the shadow realm
we're really paying the fandom tax
that is so skibidi
i think the reason people emphasize The Girl as a spellcaster is because since she's a semi-mandatory party member, people are looking at her Damage Per Turn difference between unarmed -> spell casting and seeing its a higher difference than a main character switching from Miasma, SS, or scythe -> spell casting
19:13 the sheer disbelief in your voice is sending me
From your first fear and hunger ending video with your cheap mic and less then enthusiastic voice about it to now it’s great to hear the happiness in your voice with all your videos stay doing you brother you’ve improved 5000fold over and your content is fun to watch. Got me to watch all the Lisa playthroughs to 🤣
Once again frappolo cooks with his videos 🔥🔥
Speaking of cooking... What i find funny is that mix of red & green heal is burn type so Rag's starter fur armor increasing damage from burn... Increases heal from it! Not sure have you said about that anywhere in videos but for me that's hella funny how F&H is so dark to the point of heal being damage, just opposite
iirc I talked about it in a useless facts video!
Bro your channel is growing so much, you're almost at 100k subscribers! :D
10:24 "You see, there is a FUCKtor..."
Called SUCKses shanse
You know, the link between people thinking of Darkest Dungeon in relation to Fear and Hunger might be the fact they're both games about dungeons with grueling difficulty curves, they share a similar vibe and when you don't know much about a game, but hear 'oh yeah, if your character's mental stability hits nothing they'll have a heart attack' its like... 'I don't know much about these games, what game has that spooky vibe and a dungeon that both track people's mental faculties does that belong to?'
Of course, its still a little silly.
Yeah I feel like the incredulity, while obviously played up, was a little much. It's completely expected for people to make an assumption about a game they know nothing about based on similar games they've played previously.
19:57 is actually even funnier, sometimes something does happen... the game will teleport the corpse of the enemy that would ambush you to the bed.
Ohhh yeah that's a bug I met in the past lol
I appreciate this video so much. I remember urban legends for Super Nintendo games, it's crazy they are still happening.
I remember playing Fear & Hunger's demo back in 2018 and the characters died upon reaching 0 mind, but I don't remember it being specifically from heart attack. I've never played that game mentioned or interacted much with the fanbase.
This guy is single-handedly carrying the entire community of this game. Legend
Well... Of course the girl is a great mage! Specially when you consider how useful she's as a tank or a brawler (yes irony)
ok, i'm mad that the ritual spear is not actually poisoned, not gonna lie.
never have i been more upset to watch a video so soon after release, you leave this cliffhanger about 2 mysterious characters to be talked about and there is not a video for me to watch now TT^TT
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@@frapollo94 HELL YEAH I LIKE YOUR VIDEOS
Frapollo love your videos. I wonder do you think there will be another fear and hunger game and if so would you rather it followed the castle theme of the original or the theme of termina or a whole new theme and what would you prefer. It would be cool if you did a video with a wishlist of things you would like in a sequel
I think the reason why people think 0 mind causes heart attack is because when you leave the room of a party member that left because of a mind event, it will say that there's no 'apparent' reason that they died- but it's possible that the cause is heart attack
i love how he said "FEAR AND HUNGERRR!!" so enthusiastically
22:16 i think alot of people would believe whatever you tell them purely sence to most your the one who knows all. Great power comes great tomfoolery
The funny part is that I played some of my first playthroughs with the "0-Mind = Game over" preconception, but I didn't assume heart attack. Among some of my first experiences with F&H was finding the ancient book. During it's coin flip fail scenario, the game tells you how you "Lose your mind." Then, later in the run, I began to feel the effects of lowering mind, with messages about my characters panicking, getting the suicide-skill and party-members attempting to leave the party as they become delirious. At the time, it made sense to me. The game has communicated to me that insanity is a fail-state of the game and given that the game quantifies your willpower through mind, I was afraid that was the implication of it. Says something of the relatively high number of healing items the game gives, when I could get as deep as I did in those early runs without even having to face 0 mind, but I think that this might be another piece of the puzzle to this urban legend. I can only assume that other people have had that same experience as me, either making assumptions based on flimsy evidence or straight-up misremembering the ancient book event and going off of that.
As a person who hasn't played Fear and Hunger myself
I disagree with the last fact about the girl
The girl gets the unofficial magical girl buff if she learn those spells
I was gonna type a cool comment about how the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure community once spread complete misinformation about the plot of the show because of a parody video making a joke, and then blaming the author for a plot hole that didn't exist kind of like people mixing up Darkest Dungeon and F&H. Then I remembered Frap doesn't really like JJBA so nevermind >:( (Great video btw)
Hahaha it's funny to hear this story regardless!