Rationality in Religious Texts | Tariq Ramadan | Oxford Union
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2013
- Tariq Ramadan answers a student's question on the Qur'an's involvement on influencing rational and irrational people
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ABOUT Tariq Ramadan:
Tariq Ramadan is a Professor of Contemporary Islamic Studies in the Faculty of Oriental Studies at Oxford University, and advocates the study and re-interpretation of Islamic texts and emphasizing the heterogeneous nature of Western Muslims.
Time magazine has twice recognized Ramadan: first in 2000, naming him one of the world's top 100 innovators of the 21st Century (one of the world's top 7th religious leaders), and again, in 2004, as one of the world's top 100 most influential intellectuals.
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As for the 3rd Surah, here's an instruction on how Muhammad/Muslims should treat the "unbelievers"..
3:20 And say to those who were given the Scripture and to the unlearned, "Have you submitted yourselves?" And if they submit in Islam, they are rightly guided; BUT IF THEY TURN AWAY, THEN ONLY ON YOU IS THE DUTY OF NOTIFICATION..
Really missed professor RAMADAN
yes really
You are the best way to understend the goodnes of Islam. I tray to follow your path.
That was a poorly worded question. I wish she had provided a better example for what she meant by rationality and the Qur'an
That's because it always is.
Every time violence towards others is advocated in the Quran, it is referencing specific groups of people during specific historical situations in the past &/or surrounded by verses that mandate Muslims to make all possible attempts at establishing peace first, & only to use violence for defensive purposes.
Dick Chaney called him a "devil" in 2003, refused him entry to teach at Notre Dame. Irrational Americans are now afraid of him, what a pity, this man is special intellectually.
Exactly!
Stop watching tv and question things outside of the TVs.
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you dont even know this guy!not just because he's muslim you try to falsify his talk,and stop playing the 'over-smart' dude. if you understand french,you better watch his video in french to get to know him better.thanks
What do you expect? He's grandfather Hassan Al Banna found the Muslim Brotherhood.
Ad hominem
Because people prefer hearing bullshit on TV rather than meaningful things
INTERESTING BUT?...IT IS INDEED!!
THE ANSWER WHICH IS GIVEN...
HERE!!...
Thanks!!....Tariq Ramadan!!
Religious texts are man made texts developed over certain period. Time is what makes it so complex not God.
You have some metaphysical and epistemic assumptions that aren't shared by all.
Where's the rationality in Sura 4:34? Or any other evil verse? Did God just feel like letting people suffer? This isn't true rationality, it's nonsense being presented as reason. True rationality does not consult scripture and revelation for objective truths on the workings of the universe.
Even though you believe that it’s not « rational », religious faith isn’t a nonsense as you described it. We should respect all religions.
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Police are being given Tasks to do at Hastings .to ask God direct for an answer to a question the question is given to them by mi5
I think Tariq Ramadan is much convincing when he talks about contradictions happening in the world, but when it comes to explaining the essence of Islam rules and principles, he is pretty much vague. I would think that he is more a philosopher than he is a Muslim.
For someone who defends Islam so much all over the world, that's strange that he can't explain with simple references from the Koran something as simple as "why wearing a hijab?" Or is it just simply because the Koran itself is not clear enough for someone to understand it fully and without ambiguities?
He does answer the issue of hijab, referring to when the Qur'an talks about the khimar, which he mentions was always understood to mean the head covering in all Islamic traditions.
The rules we have in Islam are based on schools of thought with principles and a methodology for interpreting the texts. When it comes to RULES, that's the job of Islamic scholars. He gives a mention of the well known verse in the Qur'an that uses the word khimar and mentions about what the scholars of these schools of thought have said.
And we don't believe anyone can fully understand the Qur'an, we believe it's full of depth and meaning and can be understood on different levels and depths depending on the individual. And that doesn't mean that we can interpret it any way we want, nor does it mean that each verse only has 1 meaning.
We see the Qur'an as a book that will never be exhausted in its meaning, that someone who has studied it their whole life can still learn new lessons in their old age. And yes like all religious texts it can be ambiguous, but we also have religious traditions with how to approach the texts.
Anyone who reads Chapter/Surah 8 in full will see that that verse is taken out of context.
For one, the Chapter is specifically about the Battle of Badr; in fact, the verse you quoted is even in past tense. It isn't an instruction to do anything. lol
Lastly, nowhere in the entire verse is it even remotely implied that "disbeliever" refers to all disbelievers.
Again, like ALL such verses, it's referring to specific groups of people in specific historical events in the PAST.
Surah 8 is the dream of Judges 7:13 (😂)
This wisdom does not descend from above, but is:" earthly"," sensual", "demonic" - in regard to those who think it strange, that you do not run with them in the same flood of dissipation. For this , reason the gospel, which was preached also to those who are "dead", that they might be judged according to men in the flesh , like Moses, Jesus or Muhammad ( PBUH) but live according to God in the Spirit for being found in appearance as a man, he humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death ( "submitting " even the death of the cross !) Therefore God also has highly exalted him & given Him the name which is above every name. For Moses ✍ about the Righteousness which is of the law. But what does 💋 say ? The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart ??........
Yes! WE had the sentence of death in Ourselves, that WE should not trust in ourselves but in God who raises the dead, who delivered US from so great a death and does deliver US, in Whom WE trust that He will still deliver US. Therefore when you peoples, come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord' s Supper, fo in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others. Therefore let Him who speaks in "a tongue" pray (5x) that He may interpret godly sorrow, for produces repentance leading to salvation not to be regretted, that the sorrow of the world produces death. Why? Because I did not do it for the sake of him who had done wrong nor for the sake of him who suffered wrong, but that Our care for YOU In the Sight of God might appear to YOU.
Is it too complicated being a Jew and live in the manner of Gentiles to compel Gentiles to live as Jews ? Al- Qur'an 94th takes the 5th , because solid foods belongs to THOSE who are full of age, that is ( Job for example) who by reason of use have His senses exercised to discern both... show good conduct that His works are done in the meekness of wisdom : ethics & morals.
Surah 5.4 is moreover Ezekiel for you, but its swamps & marshes will not be healed (!)
Read T. Ramadan's book 4 times. Bullseye. 1st chapter.
I wonder how many people can really understand the real message of the Koran if they have to deal these three dimensions that are "global message - chronological order - objectives".
Or why don't people just rewrite the Koran in chronological order so that Muslims stop telling non-Muslims that they misunderstood it because they didn't use the verses in the right context?
Or why don't Islam experts just rewrite it so that normal muslims can read it easily, and so that extremist muslims stop killing non-believers in the name of Islam?
Things would be much more easier than coming on TV and saying that everyone misunderstood the real message of Islam, only after people had been killed in the name of Islam.
The answer will appear in there consciosuness and they will know it is from god and will know how his communicates with us
How does he get away with it!-'Statements in the Quran must be assessed on 3 levels-Global Message, Chronology and Objectives'. What a smoke screen! Can you believe anybody writing a Guide for life would make it so complicated that it would need expert analysis and explanation in order for for ordinary individuals to understand it's meaning. Why does he just not say 'read it and you can make your own mind up about what it is saying-in short it is in fact meaningless'
What you said doesn't make sense. Any subject requires a teacher, just as your parents didn't tell you "stay at home and figure maths, language, geography etc out", instead you took your lunch and went to school.. Otherwise, you'd have said 1+1 =90 today...why.?.... Because "you studied it on your own and figured it out"
So this shelf guy sais that the quran does not have something irational to it, its just the "99,9999999%" of the schoolars he aggrees with that are here and there irational. Well that was a highly developed train of thought :)
These libertarians who call themselves Muslims will follow whatever is fashionable without testing its validity or usefulness. No amount of evidence will suffice to transform the mindset of a believer in the TV religion, any more than it will suffice to transform the mindset of a Bible believer.