When I hear all this I wonder: does GRRM write these archetypical figures consciously, knowing their deeper meaning before he creates text, or is it just the unconsciousness finding it's way to a real world.
I personally don't think he does so consciously. Most of the greatest writers throughout history weren't consciously aware of what they were producing (in regards to archetypal channeling), and that makes it even more fascinating.
This is one of the best analyses of Sansa's character I have seen. Most attempts to psychoanalyze her try to treat Sansa as if she were a real person, as opposed to a literary character. Sansa's archetype is Persephone--the sweet, obedient maiden who is abducted into the underworld and raped by Hades. Sandor is her Hades man--without the actual rape. He seemingly oppresses her with his brutality and ugliness, but he also shows Sansa how to find her way around the underworld and, eventually, out of it. Persephone becomes queen of the underworld, and spends half the year--spring and summer--above ground. This is how she attains womanhood: by mastering the oppositions of light and dark, birth and death, summer and winter. Along with Ceresi, the other mother figures are Daenarys (mother of dragons), and Sansa's own mother, Catelyn. Catelyn's arc is her transformation from the mother to the crone. The other crones are Olenna Tyrell, the hedge witch of Bald Hill, and Old Nan.
I absolutely LOVE your videos, I would like to see a compare and contrast between Arya and Sansa- as I think that you would bring a deeper understanding as to the complexity between these sisters. Perhaps another between Robb Stark and Jon Snow as well.
I'm amazed by the way you so elegantly put into words these otherwise obscured ideas, that too in such a soothing tone! I'm new to your content, but don't think I'll ever be old for it!
I would love to see you team up with the asoiaf content creator “Lucifer means lightbringer” on a video! I enjoyed this video and the Sandor Clegane video by the way. Excellent work
Thank you so much! Who knows? Perhaps someday in the future! :) My channel is tiny at the moment, though, so I think I have a lot to work on first. I'm returning to videos about fiction again soon, and there'll certainly be many more videos about GoT. Stay put! :)
they mean *all of this* in the books... and on telly? 4 minute reunion scene, set up with sandor turning down another woman and all, which amounts to sweet FA.....
do you think the "unkiss" might suggest that sansa feels (unconsciously) sexually attracted to sandor? grrm said in an interview that this imaginary kiss is a detail that will mean sth in future books and I'm trying to understand what this might be haha. what is your interpretation of this kiss sansa imagined?
"through nodding and smiles, she dances through hell" that's so beautifly said
When I hear all this I wonder: does GRRM write these archetypical figures consciously, knowing their deeper meaning before he creates text, or is it just the unconsciousness finding it's way to a real world.
I personally don't think he does so consciously. Most of the greatest writers throughout history weren't consciously aware of what they were producing (in regards to archetypal channeling), and that makes it even more fascinating.
This is one of the best analyses of Sansa's character I have seen. Most attempts to psychoanalyze her try to treat Sansa as if she were a real person, as opposed to a literary character. Sansa's archetype is Persephone--the sweet, obedient maiden who is abducted into the underworld and raped by Hades. Sandor is her Hades man--without the actual rape. He seemingly oppresses her with his brutality and ugliness, but he also shows Sansa how to find her way around the underworld and, eventually, out of it. Persephone becomes queen of the underworld, and spends half the year--spring and summer--above ground. This is how she attains womanhood: by mastering the oppositions of light and dark, birth and death, summer and winter. Along with Ceresi, the other mother figures are Daenarys (mother of dragons), and Sansa's own mother, Catelyn. Catelyn's arc is her transformation from the mother to the crone. The other crones are Olenna Tyrell, the hedge witch of Bald Hill, and Old Nan.
That's why Sansa is my favorite character, I always related to her a lot.
I absolutely LOVE your videos, I would like to see a compare and contrast between Arya and Sansa- as I think that you would bring a deeper understanding as to the complexity between these sisters. Perhaps another between Robb Stark and Jon Snow as well.
Amazing video! I will ship these 2 forever probably. The show didn’t do them justice, hopefully the last book will!
I am surprised, your analisis is simply wonderfull!!
I'm amazed by the way you so elegantly put into words these otherwise obscured ideas, that too in such a soothing tone! I'm new to your content, but don't think I'll ever be old for it!
THE HORSE ARCHETYPE SEQUENCE JUST BLEW MY MIND
I would love to see you team up with the asoiaf content creator “Lucifer means lightbringer” on a video! I enjoyed this video and the Sandor Clegane video by the way. Excellent work
Thank you so much! Who knows? Perhaps someday in the future! :) My channel is tiny at the moment, though, so I think I have a lot to work on first. I'm returning to videos about fiction again soon, and there'll certainly be many more videos about GoT. Stay put! :)
Thank you for your incredibly detailed and intellectual take on my deluded ships.
they mean *all of this* in the books... and on telly? 4 minute reunion scene, set up with sandor turning down another woman and all, which amounts to sweet FA.....
do you think the "unkiss" might suggest that sansa feels (unconsciously) sexually attracted to sandor? grrm said in an interview that this imaginary kiss is a detail that will mean sth in future books and I'm trying to understand what this might be haha. what is your interpretation of this kiss sansa imagined?
I think Sansa read the mind of hound.
Remember she is also a stark so she have some power .
Brilliant :)
Thank you so much! :)
I wonder if Sandor is partially inspired by St Christopher?
Can you link your image sources so I can read the literature surrounding all the pictures presented of the archetypes?
14:50 bruh, psychoanalytic perspective aside, that's menstrual cramps :v not very sexy
Unproven theories by Carl Jung. Nothing more.
Sansa is the reason I hate the starks exept for Ned and Arya
the true Beauty and the Beast, Sandor and Sansa.
I was looking for something like this thanks.
That was great! Thanks for this. Way interesting.