I’ve been a hardcore user on Twitter since 2010 and I just can’t do it anymore. The insane content on the site and how the site barely functions makes it unbearable to use. Plus being on there as an active user basically co-signs Elon. Man I miss the chronological timeline days.
He killed something good and he did it on purpose... to the aid of every bad politician and scam artist you can think of. Not enough people hate him for it- and I don't shppose they understand how crucial the site actually, genuinely was. Despite it's flaws... it did a LOT of things right. Then Elon came and made them out like the devils as he slipped in then stabbed everyone in the back by doing exactly what he claimed they were doing... The starstruck losers that love that guy really bother me... they'd excuse the worst shit for this guy for their own interests.
The biggest change I've noticed on Twitter is that Elon has functionally turned into a political slave and posts like 100 things a day. Politics are probably good for engagement but it's like a plague.
Do you realize all of his business ventures are arbitrarily and selectively enforced and held up by leftist government bureaucrats? It must make him sick to his stomach when idiots say he needs to hire foreigners to work at SpaceX aka national security interests, or holding up SpaceX launches, getting his income illegally taken away, employee frivolous lawsuits, on and on and on. The entrenched leftist bureaucracy has always stopped innovation it’s just more obvious than ever and most people are sick of it.
„It will be gone because of an advertiser boycott“ is a crazy statement. Blaming the customers who don’t want to buy your overpriced product for your terrible unrealistic demands. He sounds like he’s entitled to have these advertisers/customers, no matter what he demands. Peak narcissistic behavior!
as someone who has worked for the guy in the past, Elon has a way of stumbling several times into understanding why things were done the way they were before and then pretend he is doing it that too but better.
The problem with a town square is that if you actually want a civil discussion, you actually do need moderation. You put forward the idea of a space for moderates having a space but you cannot let the gentle, nuanced takes of the left and right be heard if the loud and obnoxious can't be silenced so they can be heard. Twitter is NOT built for that.
Perfect example of the problem online. You seem to think someone should be silenced because they don't use the language you want to hear. It's censorship. And you your types want to be the ones to control it. Who the **** are you or the censors to decide what views are loud and obnoxious. It's just another 'save the children' argument while their minds rot from the content they allow on the platforms, not the comment section. It's laughable. It's an online platform. And even bigger news, there are a lot of people that use it. They have varying capacities available to communicate with. I see stupid comments all the time, I have the mental capacity to ignore them or engage as I please. Online platforms should allow users to block commenters for their PERSONAL censorship, so that you wouldn't have to see any more posts from those users. No platform censorship outside of the exceptions that have been law for longer than facebook has existed. Don't even try to pretend that you want to see the nuanced arguments of either side. Facts are not valued by one side and it's clearly yours.
They managed to turn the word nuanced into some kind of reason to censor people now. google censor facists are on your side, dont worry. You should worry about Trump getting in and the reforms Musk will likely bring. Your feelers are going to get butt hurt if that happens. No nuance required.
My favorite part about the town square analogy is that it still holds true after the long downward spiral of twitter. If you created a world in the image of our current, in which we added infinite access to booze, hookers, gambling and entertainment, what do we think would happen? What amount of those people on their 9-5 journeys would abandon a nuanced outcome oriented discussion in lieu of a race to the bottom? For those who somehow remained disciplined and had the resolve to continue slogging into the square everyday to push their positive ideas of the world, how many other citizens would engage honestly, let alone discern them from others that have malice in their heart the pretend to walk to the same beat of betterment? While virtual twitter obviously isn't analogous to infinite booze and hookers, one metric is: engagement. The shock of twitters cultivated and moderated left losing its armor and having to contend with the underbelly of the internet is the perfect storm. Of course a system "heavily" moderated by one side of the political isle will have many pendulums swing back all at once for many similar reasons. Once the race to the bottom started and Elon placed free-speech in the path of all the pendulums swinging back, you are not at a middle ground, you are in the middle of an engagement earthquake. One final note to tie up the town square analogy: If the mayor arrives at his podium in the heated deteriorating town square and asserts that today, once again, that racism, sexism and extreme violence are on the docket for "serious" discussion, how can you blame those who show up everyday with bright ideas slowly drop out and decide that today, it might just be better to stay home.
@@deathmagneto-soythis is like the perfect comment to prove the original long is totally correct. Your comment is the encapsulation of race to the bottom lol
i mean the way twitter is going is just downhill and i think this perfect moment for someone else to comeup with next twitter and grow that website and take over in my opinion this good for someone to take over
I think an open town square where different people talk about their different idea is great and all...but nobody does that on twitter. It's just people trying to dunk on each other, doing drive-by memes or drive-by nudes, and saying outrageous things. I think the incentives on that platform is all wrong. Even though we're all supposedly in the same town square, everyone is still locked in their echo chamber community.
While I agree, you must realize the way people use twitter was curated over years. It became what it is now, because it had to. If Elon hadn't bought it, it would be so much worse. The way people used it before Elon, grew exponentially when he bought it. Meaning, what you saw back then you see 10x fold more of. This was bound to happen, this was all bound to make the owner of twitter look bad if they disagreed with the previous establishments plan. People act like if Elon hadn't bought it, we wouldn't be here now in this situation, that's false.
@@Outwardpd It would have nose dived no matter who bought it and was against the previous establishments plan. Elon is literally just the fall guy in this situation because nobody else wanted to be.
@@crumbsdoe No one else was going to buy it so not sure what you're talking about, if Elon hadn't bought twitter it wouldn't be nearly as bad as it is now.
I abandoned Twitter a few years ago, at least as far as a place for dialog, which I truly enjoyed a decade ago. To be honest, I think it was a dumpster fire well before Elon took it over, particularly if you espoused any idea that was perceived as being in agreement with the right. Even if you aren't on the right. The whole pile on culture has been a part of that platform for years. The only real difference now is that there's more bots, and more toxic ultra right. Other than the bots, the toxic ultra right just balances out the toxic ultra left, and they both stifle any meaningful dialog. To me it's been a dumpster fire for years. It's now just a dumpster fire inside of a forest fire. Either way, it's still all on fire.
I want twitter to either survive elon and emerge the free speech platform it was ages ago, or for it to die screaming after it was muffled for half a decade. twitter was dead for years to me, now it is burning bright like a candle before its death. no matter what comes next, at least it lived again, in all its hideous glory.
@@kkplx Oh you mean the EARLY, REALLY early Twitter. Yeah, but like somewhere in 2014 or above. 2017 something like... it became Dorsey's censorship toyland. So that's why I responded the way I did.
@@CarlosXPhone eyup, internet went to shit just about the same time the MSM dropped the mask on partisanship. started around 2012-2014, went nuclear on all websites in 2016 thanks to trump & his haters.
Weird analysis that Devin comes to i mean from marketing stand point and perspective it makes sense why ads are good for platform, but his argument on why is good for consumer is crazy. We don't get cheaper infrastructure. The cost of advertisement gets passed along to all our daily products. almost every company in the world servers ads. Nike, adidas, ect. and they obviously have advertisement budget that they allocate from chagrining the consumer and they still get to take our time and we have to thank them? That's a big middle finger to throw at our faces lol.
Good to see Devin going from defending Elon's action, then slowly recognizing what is going on in every iteration of his Elon/Twitter video over the past 2 years. The Elon I've seen in public 6 years ago when he was struggling with starting up Tesla is vastly different than who he is right now.
Devin, you mentioned twitter has 60 percent bot clicks but what does youtube have? Without any reference this stat has less significance to me. If every platform is failing at this problem then complaining about twitter failing about it in particular is potentially a misnomer. Why not share a few of the others that you could have shared for reference? Regardless of that one particular talking point, I can agree it's probably worse at targeting ads to users so it has worse statistics. Hopefully elon focuses on that for a while.
@@bennyandthejets9247 RUclips is about videos, the comment are a by-product, the content is the video. Twittwer is about text, the content IS the text. Bots commenting on RUclips is less problematic than Bots, texting, posting and interracting like a human. Are you good?
RUclips has bot problems for sure, but the bot problems aren't bad in a way that directly affects advertisers. Engagement on RUclips for advertising is almost entirely about views per video. On Twitter it's about engagement on the posts. And RUclips must have clearly demonstrated to advertisers or they feel confident based off the results they have seen that the view count to return on investment of the add is far more effective and real than it is on Twitter on top of the fact they don't have to worry about their ad being showing next to some super racist content because RUclips does a moderately good enough job at preventing that from happening. It hasn't been perfect, but it's definitely not as bad as Twitter is now thanks to Elons incredibly dense and kneejerk decision making 😂
@@Roric_The_Red the only thing I can rebuttal with is: it seems the video would automatically play when a bot comments, but I don’t know much about bots, so I could be mistaken. So that would contribute to views. Anyways just trying to play devil’s advocate there. I’d agree generally with what you’re saying. Videos are more persuasive ads anecdotally for me so that might contribute to better ROI for RUclips ads than twitter.
Im glad you finally dropped the act and admitted Twitter is a dumpster fire. All the Elon glazers swore up and down he was saving the business, he was smart to fire all the staff and that the website didnt skip a beat. Elon is a master marketer but a horrible businessman. Hes great at pumping the stock price but that magic appears to be running out.
theres 3 main ways that sites can work if they require monetary value to keep it up. 1.advertisements, 2. a flat fee you pay to use the service, 3. donations, similar to how i think wikipedia or AO3 uses donations. i think donations are from a viewer perspective at least the best choice however the main issue is not every site makes sense to have donations or has a viewer base that would donate in enough numbers to justify it and secondly donations work for platforms like AO3 where the main thing is keeping the site up and thats the majority of it. twitter on the other hand requires a lot more things they need to pay for and therefore a lot more money than donations would necessarily fund
The weird is, I've found threads is better now but as a replacement for LinkedIn/twitter for creatives especially with it being more integrated into Instagram.
Don’t forget Devin, Elon is sooooooo sensitive and he really does seem to behave in a way as a kid who was bullied at the playground, so he bought the playground (btw, i don’t use twitter)
YES THE FEEED IS SOOOOO BAD ITs UNIRONIC COMPLETE GARBO - Honestly I'm quitting twitter real soon, I don't know what has happend but recently my entire feed is just bots, elon posting election shit, conspiracy garbo and bot spam + onlyfans girl spaming..... its so sad.... I'm not joking this is perfect oppertunity for Linkedin or Threads to actually do something about the situation... because god knows I am actually considering them.... Like what fuck happend? My entire feed went from maybe 1 random nazi guy, to 10000 random nazi / extreme conspiracy people and I'm so sick of it... it all....
It is crazy how Elon talked about censorship and bots but the minute he took over he gave people a way to drown opposing viewpoints for a price and removed all measures on preventing bots. My anonymous twitter account is my primary account, from 2011 - 2022 it gained maybe 6-8 followers mostly from those kids doing 'follow for follow' stuff and I was way way more active during that time. Once it became obvious how bad Twitter was becoming I started getting on maybe once per month and somehow every time I log on I have a notification of another 40-50 followers that are clearly bot and phishing accounts.
I'm not sure if the 'town square' concept can hold up at a global scale or not. Also not sure if exclusively for-profit companies can be trusted to do it without some kind of alternative. I don't have the answers though. Thanks for the video Devin!
One thing I will say as a parent regards Disney, We don't boycott Disney, our kids just arent interested in the stuff they make so we no longer are spending any money on their products
Secret call out 20:50 still locked in "as the kids say" haha always a good time tuning into a Devin Nash video. Very interesting topics and discussions.
Devin, I've been using the platform for a decade as a dev and I don't even recognize it anymore. I love Twitter. That's my bias. I've bent Lists to my will in an effort to get any value from the platform but even that is hard to manage nowadays. For You is an absolute junk food induced dumpster fire. Content that I would never seek out or engage with like street fights and political BS. It's crazy to see what it's become and I was never someone who argued against Elon's ownership. The weirdest thing is viewing my Following tab and finding this desolate space because many people I follow are no longer active on the platform. It's literally like 3 people in chronological order which exacerbates the problem.
tbh, the way i see twitter going is i feel like elon is making the exact changes to the platform that i think he felt would be positive changes when he was a user of the platform, but he didn't spend any time thinking about how those changes would affect every type of user of the platform. And after making these changes that he felt would make the perfect platform, he's decided that anything that causes it to fail at this point is out of his hands. It's such a backwards way to run a company, and i think he's shown in his other companies in the past that he was more reactive to market perception. The only explanation i can think of is that he's let his ego get to his head and convinced himself that he's incapable of making bad decisions with all the success that he has had.
The rise of AI will slowly kill online advertising: 1. Search, Google has gotten so bad that AI search engines like Perplexity are thriving. Way better results and the user doesn't need to open a single website with ads. 2. AI Bots, we are slowly getting to the point where AI bots are so good at simulating human behaviour that soon it's impossible to tell if you advertised to real people or not. How long until companies pull the plug? 3. AI labour, to be fair this is a lot further into the future but eventually AI will be able to do most if not all jobs. This will greatly decrease production costs but will also leave people with very small to no disposable income. Who to advertise to then?
you're forgetting about a single, most important, fact that AI has no intelligence in it ;) it just statistically can produce an accurate result, so nope, it won't replace humans any time soon but yeah, some jobs will be lost, and much more will transform
Out of curiosity since Mark Cuban has extended his interest in potentially buying Twitter do you think he has the potential to turn things around? I think he has a promising ad delivery system that could do the platform good but the amount of bots and stuff is a scary and hard thing to tackle so not sure how he would handle that
i disagree. maybe as a small company brand safety isnt as good. but big boys like disney, and nintendo etc... all value branding. They spent billions of dollars making the brand as it is today. if it damages them, they would rather cut losses and move to somewhere else.
Man it's rad to see Devin having a good time with these videos, even if some of the topics are unfortunate. Devin getting exasperated over how insane something is will never get old. Beyond that one thing I can't wrap my head around is why my timeline isn't insane like this. I use Twitter to follow indie game devs and artists, that's it. Sometimes I'll get some political stuff but idk if I've ever seen these fights or slurs unless I actively left my feed. Even with generative AI flooding everything with slop I've found the same artists I've followed for years rising to the surface with great art. I have found a decl8ne in finding nee smaller artists though which is sad. Maybe it's because I very intentionally police my engagement so I control my algorithm rather than the other way round? Even then there's no way that explains all or even most of it.
The unfortunate reality is private ownership of the online town square has failed. I hope Government does step in and give the people a secure platform to come back to and communicate with one another again. Perhaps this could be a good source of revenue for the Government giving advertisements to citizens while also protecting them from the current misuse we are facing today. I would rather not rely on Government but sadly corporations have failed us here and at the current rate will destroy American democracy at the least.
I will never used something social media related thats government run im sorry. Theres too much precedent of all sorts of crazy censorship and bullshit from EVERYWHERE on that front for me to ever be ok with ANY government in the world today running that
This was always going to be the end result, just a matter of how long it took people to see it. Some of us saw this coming back in 2022 back he was trying to buy the platform Also regarding the town square thing - there's all sorts of things you're not allowed to do in actual town squares
If it's the case that advertisers don't care about brand risks so long as they get a good return on their investments then how would you explain the several adpocalypses that have occurred on RUclips and the push to make the platform more family friendly?
Holy shit, I'm subbed and this is the first time in a year-ish that I've seen your vids in my subscription feed, and I activley am watching videos from there all the time. What the hell YT?!?
I had created a completely apolitical timeline on Twitter pre-Elon with a few follows of users covering some niche topics. As soon as he bought it my feed was flooded with insane conspiracy stuff. Haven’t touched it since
It’s so sad and your point about how consuming affects you just made me reflect on how it’s affecting me and you are 100% right. I have to cut it a bit at the very least even if it is the main way I keep up with news & my niche 😢
The main issue for me in truth is the fact I can’t see discourse about ANYTHING because of how the content incentive is setup. There’s probably half a dozen times daily that I click a thread just to be showered with irrelevant videos or memes to farm the engagement. Twitter doesn’t deprioritize these either and it literally gets to the point where for every 10 videos there’s maybe one view point
I remember when you first talked about him taking over and you mentioned some of the good stuff he might bring into the table and how it might solve some problems. I was hesitant, but thought “ you know, how bad could he actually make it ..!” boy was I wrong. Because this platform has a degenerate algorithm now and the amount of crazy shit i see is honestly unbelievable. The worst part is i cant even tell what is a real account or a bot. It feels way worse now. Replies are ruined and everything in a reply is almost unrelates to what someone posts.
Twitter is not a terrible platform, it’s just a reflection of the internet relatively unfiltered. The people who use it are terrible, on both sides of almost any issue.
@@reelenz Prior to Elon, it was quite heavily policed, hence how many people were banned from using it. Blue check marks were either something only large “influencers” could achieve, or, those with sufficient money to purchase one if they knew the right people. Elon is a hypocrite at times with his selective banning, especially of people who have criticised him, but now, it is much more about free speech. I personally like my crazies to feel they can speak publicly, so we can identify them, and at least try to correct them. The community notes concept was brilliant, but is another example of just how bad society is in general. As a contributor to it, I see the absolutely retarded fights between both sides of any issue in them, but, it is a sound concept and a welcome addition. Out of curiosity , exactly what do you think I am projecting here? Or, why did this offend you enough that you felt the need to make a generalist comment, a standard retort for anything.
Ah yes the people screaming at the top of their lungs for genocide are not all that much worse than the people screaming for free healthcare. Totally equivalent. Just as bad as each other
Also, it is objectively worse. It has issues literally all the time. Compared to, say, Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat, the amount of problems Twitter has is insane.
I don't think the comments he made were in regards to believing that he could make a platform free of advertising, they were made regarding these companies like Disney that constantly advertise and then revoke their advertising at the slightest hint of something they don't like, creating a destabilizing effect on the platform which he thinks is done intentionally in order to harm it hence Elon calling them out. I'm sure that alternative forms of income are more of an attempt to make the platform more robust and resilient due to how unstable advertising appears to be. I don't think we can assume that companies only care about "the bottom-line", they have and continue to throw money in the bin creating content that no one cares about in order to attempt to influence culture according to their politics, Disney is a big offender. There is also the assumption that Twitter was even profitable to begin with before Musk. I don't think it was. I think Twitter, like RUclips, was running in the red for years and only existed because of the indirect benefits of using it for influence, hence why so many feds seemed to work there or be involved with it. It wasn't profitable to begin with and probably still wouldn't be even if you turned back time and Elon never bought it. The free speech issue is difficult to tackle for a number of reasons. People have consumed highly censored and partisan content for so long that they're not accustomed to a free speech environment, they do not have a thick skin that has survived the rigor of a Call of Duty lobby. Instead you're looking at people whom have existed in bubbles that recoil at words which they view as literal violence, its gonna take a minute for them to adapt. It could be the case that you're just witnessing a tide of repressed expression as a result of users coming back to the platform whom have not been able to express themselves for years/decades due to censorship, but that is something that should burn itself out eventually. Another reason is that content is algorithmically driven towards engagement which means the most controversial content is going to promoted over your typical average Joe interaction hence leading to a cess-pool of outrage (nothing new for Twitter though). Lastly, social media is leveraged as an influence/propaganda tool and its an election year so the bots are going to be rife. If the people who run these bot farms believe that Twitter has become 4chan, then they're going to do the exact thing they do they to 4chan, which is promote the kind of content that turns it into a cess-pool intentionally to discourage people from using the platform, that is a problem that can only be solved by getting rid of bots but thats easier said than done. I would be interested in a comparison with something like RUclips because I don't think these issues are specific to Twitter. RUclips is also full of bots. Content is being increasingly AI generated and if you've been using the platform lately you'll really notice how bad it has gotten, you're just being spammed with Faceless video content/shorts that all have AI generated voices, video, scripts, etc, over actual people creating original content. I personally think AI is just going to make engaging with the internet pointless so there has never been a better time to touch grass and perhaps stay there.
All your ad talk reminds me of when publishers would try to print more papers to have a "higher distribution" when i was in the newspaper industry. now they use bots xD love it man keep up the good work.
Don't you also need like an advertiser account on Twitter that costs like 1k a month? On top of that, 4chan understood this problem back in 2008. Banks don't wanna see their stuff next to the N word and porn....
I sent a complaint to jack in the box for advertising on twitter. They sent me a voucher for free food, I told them i'll think about it. But HOLY CRAP. I don't know if 4chan exists anymore, but the last time I saw so much JQ content was in greentext. Wha'ts even crazier is 4chan would push back against that, the comments I'm seeing are "its sad but true" shit.
The world was fine without twitter. A town hall is not possible with anonymity. If you want a true town hall, we need to see the people and have verified identities bottom line.
I remember when you first talked about him taking over and you mentioned some of the good stuff he might bring into the table and how it might solve some problems. I was hesitant, but thought you know whatever how bad could he actually make it boy was I wrong. Because this platform has a degenerate algorithm now and the amount of crazy shit i see is honestly unbelievable. The worst part is i cant even tell what is a real account or a bot. It feels way worse now.
There is a lot in this video that is so goofy. like saying that unbanning everyone in 2022 makes elons 2024 growth chart unreliable and false. Videos like these make me re-question everything this guy has ever said.
Devin also literally said the return on investment is god awful since around elon took (it was already bad before). Do you also know what has happened since elon took over? An overabundance of bots and extreme political polarisation (largely driven by him) + a change from "interact with people you follow" to "rage bait conversations". For me these 3 have made me not want to engage with ads. When I fall for rage bait I'm in a sour mood and a brands impression baseline will be significantly lower due to that. Bots are like 50% of the platform now as well. Idk y'all seem to not understand psychology, know how to properly listen to a video and seem to believe your smarter than someone in the industry. Keep coping
@@zugetzuzu Twitter wasn't making money before Elon either, they sustained the business by whoring themselves to special interests. Elon has decided to level the political playing field on his platform, and people are losing their minds. Remember when the left said "if you don't like it, just make your own platform." LMAO.
I thought almost the same thing. A lot of context was missing at the start. I disagree with a lot of what he was saying at the beginning because elon WAS talking about ADL without saying their name. He got blackmailed by ADL at scale. ADL went to advertisers and said this or that. If not ADL, someone did. A group did. Because they all walked AT THE SAME time. It was COORDINATED. Basically Cancel Culture at a massive scale. He covered the politiking at the end so I'll give him credit there. That was a good speech at the end.. but these advertisers DID leave the platform over politik.
No way. he's made it great! i can't think of a better system than the community note. I wish every social media platform would use it. Facebook NEEDS the community note system.
You should open their financial statements for a company's survival it paints a different picture often and most companies even if profit goes down it's still enough to make really good future investments.
Same I only stay for the Indie game dev peeps that are on there I'm afraid it's turning people into one sided thinkers without any empathy or reasoning.
I’ve been a hardcore user on Twitter since 2010 and I just can’t do it anymore. The insane content on the site and how the site barely functions makes it unbearable to use. Plus being on there as an active user basically co-signs Elon. Man I miss the chronological timeline days.
i love twitter to read the dramas 😊
He killed something good and he did it on purpose... to the aid of every bad politician and scam artist you can think of. Not enough people hate him for it- and I don't shppose they understand how crucial the site actually, genuinely was. Despite it's flaws... it did a LOT of things right. Then Elon came and made them out like the devils as he slipped in then stabbed everyone in the back by doing exactly what he claimed they were doing...
The starstruck losers that love that guy really bother me... they'd excuse the worst shit for this guy for their own interests.
The biggest change I've noticed on Twitter is that Elon has functionally turned into a political slave and posts like 100 things a day. Politics are probably good for engagement but it's like a plague.
Do you realize all of his business ventures are arbitrarily and selectively enforced and held up by leftist government bureaucrats? It must make him sick to his stomach when idiots say he needs to hire foreigners to work at SpaceX aka national security interests, or holding up SpaceX launches, getting his income illegally taken away, employee frivolous lawsuits, on and on and on.
The entrenched leftist bureaucracy has always stopped innovation it’s just more obvious than ever and most people are sick of it.
And this cringe fuck Elon is forcing people to follow him and shit
He's like a Z spambot, repositing and commenting on his own alt accounts...
Putting political posts in my feed is so disheartening
Been on Twitter since 2012 it’s actually a horrible platform now. The “for you” timeline is full of things I’ve never interacted with.
„It will be gone because of an advertiser boycott“ is a crazy statement. Blaming the customers who don’t want to buy your overpriced product for your terrible unrealistic demands.
He sounds like he’s entitled to have these advertisers/customers, no matter what he demands. Peak narcissistic behavior!
Dude was trying to host a productive interview and Musk was saying the most insane cryptic "the day of reckoning will come" bs over and over again.
as someone who has worked for the guy in the past, Elon has a way of stumbling several times into understanding why things were done the way they were before and then pretend he is doing it that too but better.
The problem with a town square is that if you actually want a civil discussion, you actually do need moderation. You put forward the idea of a space for moderates having a space but you cannot let the gentle, nuanced takes of the left and right be heard if the loud and obnoxious can't be silenced so they can be heard. Twitter is NOT built for that.
Perfect example of the problem online. You seem to think someone should be silenced because they don't use the language you want to hear. It's censorship. And you your types want to be the ones to control it. Who the **** are you or the censors to decide what views are loud and obnoxious. It's just another 'save the children' argument while their minds rot from the content they allow on the platforms, not the comment section. It's laughable.
It's an online platform. And even bigger news, there are a lot of people that use it. They have varying capacities available to communicate with. I see stupid comments all the time, I have the mental capacity to ignore them or engage as I please. Online platforms should allow users to block commenters for their PERSONAL censorship, so that you wouldn't have to see any more posts from those users. No platform censorship outside of the exceptions that have been law for longer than facebook has existed. Don't even try to pretend that you want to see the nuanced arguments of either side. Facts are not valued by one side and it's clearly yours.
You curate who shows up in your feed.
@@DseanSupreme Twitter will live without you. You're welcome to build or purchase your own platform.
They managed to turn the word nuanced into some kind of reason to censor people now. google censor facists are on your side, dont worry. You should worry about Trump getting in and the reforms Musk will likely bring. Your feelers are going to get butt hurt if that happens. No nuance required.
@@MelywoodMedia Yes, let's ignore constructive criticism. Twitter is already perfect the way it is.
When Elon suggested putting rockets on Teslas I knew where he stood in terms of reality.
20:50 Pleasantly surprised with the Jenny Nicholson Disney Starcruiser reference
YEAH SERIOUSLY. Shout outs to one of the real ones
My favorite part about the town square analogy is that it still holds true after the long downward spiral of twitter. If you created a world in the image of our current, in which we added infinite access to booze, hookers, gambling and entertainment, what do we think would happen? What amount of those people on their 9-5 journeys would abandon a nuanced outcome oriented discussion in lieu of a race to the bottom? For those who somehow remained disciplined and had the resolve to continue slogging into the square everyday to push their positive ideas of the world, how many other citizens would engage honestly, let alone discern them from others that have malice in their heart the pretend to walk to the same beat of betterment?
While virtual twitter obviously isn't analogous to infinite booze and hookers, one metric is: engagement. The shock of twitters cultivated and moderated left losing its armor and having to contend with the underbelly of the internet is the perfect storm. Of course a system "heavily" moderated by one side of the political isle will have many pendulums swing back all at once for many similar reasons. Once the race to the bottom started and Elon placed free-speech in the path of all the pendulums swinging back, you are not at a middle ground, you are in the middle of an engagement earthquake.
One final note to tie up the town square analogy:
If the mayor arrives at his podium in the heated deteriorating town square and asserts that today, once again, that racism, sexism and extreme violence are on the docket for "serious" discussion, how can you blame those who show up everyday with bright ideas slowly drop out and decide that today, it might just be better to stay home.
I aint reading allat, someone got a tldr?
@@AdxmRL odd you're watching a devin nash video but need a tldr
@@slamduncan1392 yeah he talks in his video… doesnt put a wall of text up and not give a tldr
@@AdxmRL - It's basically just a bunch of slop that boils down to 'Dis is good akcshully'
@@deathmagneto-soythis is like the perfect comment to prove the original long is totally correct. Your comment is the encapsulation of race to the bottom lol
i mean the way twitter is going is just downhill and i think this perfect moment for someone else to comeup with next twitter and grow that website and take over in my opinion this good for someone to take over
Bluesky is an amazing Twitter alternative
Twitter/X is horrible now. Random porn or political bs pops up, tweets from people you don’t follow on topics you don’t care about pop onto your food
I think an open town square where different people talk about their different idea is great and all...but nobody does that on twitter. It's just people trying to dunk on each other, doing drive-by memes or drive-by nudes, and saying outrageous things. I think the incentives on that platform is all wrong. Even though we're all supposedly in the same town square, everyone is still locked in their echo chamber community.
While I agree, you must realize the way people use twitter was curated over years. It became what it is now, because it had to. If Elon hadn't bought it, it would be so much worse. The way people used it before Elon, grew exponentially when he bought it. Meaning, what you saw back then you see 10x fold more of. This was bound to happen, this was all bound to make the owner of twitter look bad if they disagreed with the previous establishments plan. People act like if Elon hadn't bought it, we wouldn't be here now in this situation, that's false.
@@crumbsdoe So it taking a nosedive off of a cliff the very second Elon bought it, is just a coincidence?
@@Outwardpd It would have nose dived no matter who bought it and was against the previous establishments plan. Elon is literally just the fall guy in this situation because nobody else wanted to be.
@@crumbsdoe
They will be getting more ad money
@@crumbsdoe No one else was going to buy it so not sure what you're talking about, if Elon hadn't bought twitter it wouldn't be nearly as bad as it is now.
20:50 gang. Watching at 1x speed just to make sure I absorb the nuance.
Elon’s actual incorrect ban removal is much better then before but as a whole the website feels like when MySpace became infested with bots and died.
I abandoned Twitter a few years ago, at least as far as a place for dialog, which I truly enjoyed a decade ago. To be honest, I think it was a dumpster fire well before Elon took it over, particularly if you espoused any idea that was perceived as being in agreement with the right. Even if you aren't on the right. The whole pile on culture has been a part of that platform for years. The only real difference now is that there's more bots, and more toxic ultra right. Other than the bots, the toxic ultra right just balances out the toxic ultra left, and they both stifle any meaningful dialog.
To me it's been a dumpster fire for years. It's now just a dumpster fire inside of a forest fire. Either way, it's still all on fire.
I want twitter to either survive elon and emerge the free speech platform it was ages ago, or for it to die screaming after it was muffled for half a decade.
twitter was dead for years to me, now it is burning bright like a candle before its death.
no matter what comes next, at least it lived again, in all its hideous glory.
Twitter was... "Free Speech" before... Elon. lol 😆 🤣 😂
@@CarlosXPhone it was before everything went to shit in the mid 2010s, yes.
@@kkplx Oh you mean the EARLY, REALLY early Twitter. Yeah, but like somewhere in 2014 or above. 2017 something like... it became Dorsey's censorship toyland. So that's why I responded the way I did.
@@CarlosXPhone eyup, internet went to shit just about the same time the MSM dropped the mask on partisanship. started around 2012-2014, went nuclear on all websites in 2016 thanks to trump & his haters.
Weird analysis that Devin comes to i mean from marketing stand point and perspective it makes sense why ads are good for platform, but his argument on why is good for consumer is crazy. We don't get cheaper infrastructure. The cost of advertisement gets passed along to all our daily products. almost every company in the world servers ads. Nike, adidas, ect. and they obviously have advertisement budget that they allocate from chagrining the consumer and they still get to take our time and we have to thank them? That's a big middle finger to throw at our faces lol.
It's just a place to separate decent people from awful people. It's toxic and disturbing.
Good to see Devin going from defending Elon's action, then slowly recognizing what is going on in every iteration of his Elon/Twitter video over the past 2 years. The Elon I've seen in public 6 years ago when he was struggling with starting up Tesla is vastly different than who he is right now.
20:50. Still watching. (2x speed)
Devin, you mentioned twitter has 60 percent bot clicks but what does youtube have? Without any reference this stat has less significance to me. If every platform is failing at this problem then complaining about twitter failing about it in particular is potentially a misnomer. Why not share a few of the others that you could have shared for reference? Regardless of that one particular talking point, I can agree it's probably worse at targeting ads to users so it has worse statistics. Hopefully elon focuses on that for a while.
Hmmm... Bots cant do videos, but they can write and posts texts. Are you alright?
@@Kryssthealien I meant comment sections of RUclips. I feel like that was pretty easy to understand based on the context. Are you alright?
@@bennyandthejets9247 RUclips is about videos, the comment are a by-product, the content is the video. Twittwer is about text, the content IS the text. Bots commenting on RUclips is less problematic than Bots, texting, posting and interracting like a human. Are you good?
RUclips has bot problems for sure, but the bot problems aren't bad in a way that directly affects advertisers.
Engagement on RUclips for advertising is almost entirely about views per video. On Twitter it's about engagement on the posts. And RUclips must have clearly demonstrated to advertisers or they feel confident based off the results they have seen that the view count to return on investment of the add is far more effective and real than it is on Twitter on top of the fact they don't have to worry about their ad being showing next to some super racist content because RUclips does a moderately good enough job at preventing that from happening.
It hasn't been perfect, but it's definitely not as bad as Twitter is now thanks to Elons incredibly dense and kneejerk decision making 😂
@@Roric_The_Red the only thing I can rebuttal with is: it seems the video would automatically play when a bot comments, but I don’t know much about bots, so I could be mistaken. So that would contribute to views. Anyways just trying to play devil’s advocate there. I’d agree generally with what you’re saying. Videos are more persuasive ads anecdotally for me so that might contribute to better ROI for RUclips ads than twitter.
20:50 Glad you're back!
20:50 still watching at 4x speed
Im glad you finally dropped the act and admitted Twitter is a dumpster fire. All the Elon glazers swore up and down he was saving the business, he was smart to fire all the staff and that the website didnt skip a beat. Elon is a master marketer but a horrible businessman. Hes great at pumping the stock price but that magic appears to be running out.
@@acgrizzle7530 I mean, buying a business that apparently wasn’t profitable was a stupid idea to begin with.
theres 3 main ways that sites can work if they require monetary value to keep it up. 1.advertisements, 2. a flat fee you pay to use the service, 3. donations, similar to how i think wikipedia or AO3 uses donations. i think donations are from a viewer perspective at least the best choice however the main issue is not every site makes sense to have donations or has a viewer base that would donate in enough numbers to justify it and secondly donations work for platforms like AO3 where the main thing is keeping the site up and thats the majority of it. twitter on the other hand requires a lot more things they need to pay for and therefore a lot more money than donations would necessarily fund
The weird is, I've found threads is better now but as a replacement for LinkedIn/twitter for creatives especially with it being more integrated into Instagram.
If you have been actually paying attention to Elon in the last few years, this is not surprising AT ALL.
Don’t forget Devin, Elon is sooooooo sensitive and he really does seem to behave in a way as a kid who was bullied at the playground, so he bought the playground (btw, i don’t use twitter)
YES THE FEEED IS SOOOOO BAD ITs UNIRONIC COMPLETE GARBO - Honestly I'm quitting twitter real soon, I don't know what has happend but recently my entire feed is just bots, elon posting election shit, conspiracy garbo and bot spam + onlyfans girl spaming..... its so sad.... I'm not joking this is perfect oppertunity for Linkedin or Threads to actually do something about the situation... because god knows I am actually considering them.... Like what fuck happend? My entire feed went from maybe 1 random nazi guy, to 10000 random nazi / extreme conspiracy people and I'm so sick of it... it all....
It is crazy how Elon talked about censorship and bots but the minute he took over he gave people a way to drown opposing viewpoints for a price and removed all measures on preventing bots. My anonymous twitter account is my primary account, from 2011 - 2022 it gained maybe 6-8 followers mostly from those kids doing 'follow for follow' stuff and I was way way more active during that time. Once it became obvious how bad Twitter was becoming I started getting on maybe once per month and somehow every time I log on I have a notification of another 40-50 followers that are clearly bot and phishing accounts.
“Quitting real soon” - Okay.
I'm not sure if the 'town square' concept can hold up at a global scale or not. Also not sure if exclusively for-profit companies can be trusted to do it without some kind of alternative. I don't have the answers though.
Thanks for the video Devin!
One thing I will say as a parent regards Disney, We don't boycott Disney, our kids just arent interested in the stuff they make so we no longer are spending any money on their products
Secret call out 20:50 still locked in "as the kids say" haha always a good time tuning into a Devin Nash video. Very interesting topics and discussions.
devin devin devin
NO!
Devin’s final thoughts remind me of something similar to ground news but more communal/digestible.
Devin, I've been using the platform for a decade as a dev and I don't even recognize it anymore. I love Twitter. That's my bias. I've bent Lists to my will in an effort to get any value from the platform but even that is hard to manage nowadays. For You is an absolute junk food induced dumpster fire. Content that I would never seek out or engage with like street fights and political BS. It's crazy to see what it's become and I was never someone who argued against Elon's ownership.
The weirdest thing is viewing my Following tab and finding this desolate space because many people I follow are no longer active on the platform. It's literally like 3 people in chronological order which exacerbates the problem.
tbh, the way i see twitter going is i feel like elon is making the exact changes to the platform that i think he felt would be positive changes when he was a user of the platform, but he didn't spend any time thinking about how those changes would affect every type of user of the platform. And after making these changes that he felt would make the perfect platform, he's decided that anything that causes it to fail at this point is out of his hands.
It's such a backwards way to run a company, and i think he's shown in his other companies in the past that he was more reactive to market perception. The only explanation i can think of is that he's let his ego get to his head and convinced himself that he's incapable of making bad decisions with all the success that he has had.
20:50! Really dig the videos, man.
20:50 "locked in"
Thanks for the video.
The rise of AI will slowly kill online advertising:
1. Search, Google has gotten so bad that AI search engines like Perplexity are thriving. Way better results and the user doesn't need to open a single website with ads.
2. AI Bots, we are slowly getting to the point where AI bots are so good at simulating human behaviour that soon it's impossible to tell if you advertised to real people or not. How long until companies pull the plug?
3. AI labour, to be fair this is a lot further into the future but eventually AI will be able to do most if not all jobs. This will greatly decrease production costs but will also leave people with very small to no disposable income. Who to advertise to then?
how will these ai search engines make enough money to sustain themselves without ads?
you're forgetting about a single, most important, fact that AI has no intelligence in it ;) it just statistically can produce an accurate result, so nope, it won't replace humans any time soon
but yeah, some jobs will be lost, and much more will transform
39:40 or Jay Shetty 💀
Out of curiosity since Mark Cuban has extended his interest in potentially buying Twitter do you think he has the potential to turn things around? I think he has a promising ad delivery system that could do the platform good but the amount of bots and stuff is a scary and hard thing to tackle so not sure how he would handle that
I can answer that with a big fat ol' No. He is basically Dorsey but in a different body.
I never got twitter in the first place.
50:20, Twitter is just a megaphone for Elon. It's like watching a liveleak video in realtime.
i disagree. maybe as a small company brand safety isnt as good. but big boys like disney, and nintendo etc... all value branding. They spent billions of dollars making the brand as it is today. if it damages them, they would rather cut losses and move to somewhere else.
Man it's rad to see Devin having a good time with these videos, even if some of the topics are unfortunate. Devin getting exasperated over how insane something is will never get old.
Beyond that one thing I can't wrap my head around is why my timeline isn't insane like this. I use Twitter to follow indie game devs and artists, that's it. Sometimes I'll get some political stuff but idk if I've ever seen these fights or slurs unless I actively left my feed.
Even with generative AI flooding everything with slop I've found the same artists I've followed for years rising to the surface with great art. I have found a decl8ne in finding nee smaller artists though which is sad.
Maybe it's because I very intentionally police my engagement so I control my algorithm rather than the other way round? Even then there's no way that explains all or even most of it.
The unfortunate reality is private ownership of the online town square has failed. I hope Government does step in and give the people a secure platform to come back to and communicate with one another again. Perhaps this could be a good source of revenue for the Government giving advertisements to citizens while also protecting them from the current misuse we are facing today. I would rather not rely on Government but sadly corporations have failed us here and at the current rate will destroy American democracy at the least.
How did it fail? It’s better than ever, even Zuckerberg is taking a key from Elon in terms of free speech.
I will never used something social media related thats government run im sorry. Theres too much precedent of all sorts of crazy censorship and bullshit from EVERYWHERE on that front for me to ever be ok with ANY government in the world today running that
20:50 Fantastic video- I don't agree with every single detail of every single thing you say, but that just makes me like you more !
20:50 and still watching!
This was always going to be the end result, just a matter of how long it took people to see it. Some of us saw this coming back in 2022 back he was trying to buy the platform
Also regarding the town square thing - there's all sorts of things you're not allowed to do in actual town squares
Still here yuppp locked in
If it's the case that advertisers don't care about brand risks so long as they get a good return on their investments then how would you explain the several adpocalypses that have occurred on RUclips and the push to make the platform more family friendly?
His 'google search away' from showing that Tesla runs ads is a concept video from a fan.
Holy shit, I'm subbed and this is the first time in a year-ish that I've seen your vids in my subscription feed, and I activley am watching videos from there all the time. What the hell YT?!?
20:50. Still watching. (watching at 2x speed)
MYLIXIA IS BACK!
you're just mad we captured one of your most valuable ideological bases xd
20:50 here we go
Oh how I’ve missed Mr Nash. Glad to have you back!
I had created a completely apolitical timeline on Twitter pre-Elon with a few follows of users covering some niche topics. As soon as he bought it my feed was flooded with insane conspiracy stuff. Haven’t touched it since
21:22 locked in
20:50 deep cut. Here late but enjoying this one. Listened to half of it in my car.
It’s so sad and your point about how consuming affects you just made me reflect on how it’s affecting me and you are 100% right. I have to cut it a bit at the very least even if it is the main way I keep up with news & my niche 😢
The main issue for me in truth is the fact I can’t see discourse about ANYTHING because of how the content incentive is setup. There’s probably half a dozen times daily that I click a thread just to be showered with irrelevant videos or memes to farm the engagement. Twitter doesn’t deprioritize these either and it literally gets to the point where for every 10 videos there’s maybe one view point
Excellent points with the last few minutes.
I do not look at my FYP page. Ever.
Twitter is now Hydra.
I remember when you first talked about him taking over and you mentioned some of the good stuff he might bring into the table and how it might solve some problems. I was hesitant, but thought “ you know, how bad could he actually make it ..!”
boy was I wrong. Because this platform has a degenerate algorithm now and the amount of crazy shit i see is honestly unbelievable. The worst part is i cant even tell what is a real account or a bot. It feels way worse now.
Replies are ruined and everything in a reply is almost unrelates to what someone posts.
Twitter is not a terrible platform, it’s just a reflection of the internet relatively unfiltered. The people who use it are terrible, on both sides of almost any issue.
Way to generalize lol. Sounds like projection.
@@reelenz Prior to Elon, it was quite heavily policed, hence how many people were banned from using it. Blue check marks were either something only large “influencers” could achieve, or, those with sufficient money to purchase one if they knew the right people. Elon is a hypocrite at times with his selective banning, especially of people who have criticised him, but now, it is much more about free speech. I personally like my crazies to feel they can speak publicly, so we can identify them, and at least try to correct them. The community notes concept was brilliant, but is another example of just how bad society is in general. As a contributor to it, I see the absolutely retarded fights between both sides of any issue in them, but, it is a sound concept and a welcome addition.
Out of curiosity , exactly what do you think I am projecting here? Or, why did this offend you enough that you felt the need to make a generalist comment, a standard retort for anything.
Yes
Ah yes the people screaming at the top of their lungs for genocide are not all that much worse than the people screaming for free healthcare. Totally equivalent. Just as bad as each other
Also, it is objectively worse. It has issues literally all the time. Compared to, say, Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat, the amount of problems Twitter has is insane.
I don't think the comments he made were in regards to believing that he could make a platform free of advertising, they were made regarding these companies like Disney that constantly advertise and then revoke their advertising at the slightest hint of something they don't like, creating a destabilizing effect on the platform which he thinks is done intentionally in order to harm it hence Elon calling them out. I'm sure that alternative forms of income are more of an attempt to make the platform more robust and resilient due to how unstable advertising appears to be. I don't think we can assume that companies only care about "the bottom-line", they have and continue to throw money in the bin creating content that no one cares about in order to attempt to influence culture according to their politics, Disney is a big offender. There is also the assumption that Twitter was even profitable to begin with before Musk. I don't think it was. I think Twitter, like RUclips, was running in the red for years and only existed because of the indirect benefits of using it for influence, hence why so many feds seemed to work there or be involved with it. It wasn't profitable to begin with and probably still wouldn't be even if you turned back time and Elon never bought it.
The free speech issue is difficult to tackle for a number of reasons. People have consumed highly censored and partisan content for so long that they're not accustomed to a free speech environment, they do not have a thick skin that has survived the rigor of a Call of Duty lobby. Instead you're looking at people whom have existed in bubbles that recoil at words which they view as literal violence, its gonna take a minute for them to adapt. It could be the case that you're just witnessing a tide of repressed expression as a result of users coming back to the platform whom have not been able to express themselves for years/decades due to censorship, but that is something that should burn itself out eventually. Another reason is that content is algorithmically driven towards engagement which means the most controversial content is going to promoted over your typical average Joe interaction hence leading to a cess-pool of outrage (nothing new for Twitter though). Lastly, social media is leveraged as an influence/propaganda tool and its an election year so the bots are going to be rife. If the people who run these bot farms believe that Twitter has become 4chan, then they're going to do the exact thing they do they to 4chan, which is promote the kind of content that turns it into a cess-pool intentionally to discourage people from using the platform, that is a problem that can only be solved by getting rid of bots but thats easier said than done.
I would be interested in a comparison with something like RUclips because I don't think these issues are specific to Twitter. RUclips is also full of bots. Content is being increasingly AI generated and if you've been using the platform lately you'll really notice how bad it has gotten, you're just being spammed with Faceless video content/shorts that all have AI generated voices, video, scripts, etc, over actual people creating original content. I personally think AI is just going to make engaging with the internet pointless so there has never been a better time to touch grass and perhaps stay there.
Insightful as always Mr. Nashington
Hot and thirsty advertisers in your area want to know your location
21:27 glad to see your videos back in my feed missed this content
All your ad talk reminds me of when publishers would try to print more papers to have a "higher distribution" when i was in the newspaper industry. now they use bots xD love it man keep up the good work.
20:50 Still watching Devin. Always learn new things. Thanks.
20:50 watching this at 3am before I go to my blue collar job
20:50 love me a Devin Nash insight
I enjoy Twitter. It’s my favorite social media platform by far.
20:50 Still watching. Like the EVE Online mug! Do you play?
Don't you also need like an advertiser account on Twitter that costs like 1k a month? On top of that, 4chan understood this problem back in 2008. Banks don't wanna see their stuff next to the N word and porn....
20:50 Crazy what has happened to twitter the last few years.
I sent a complaint to jack in the box for advertising on twitter. They sent me a voucher for free food, I told them i'll think about it. But HOLY CRAP. I don't know if 4chan exists anymore, but the last time I saw so much JQ content was in greentext. Wha'ts even crazier is 4chan would push back against that, the comments I'm seeing are "its sad but true" shit.
still watching @21, great info Devin!
The world was fine without twitter. A town hall is not possible with anonymity. If you want a true town hall, we need to see the people and have verified identities bottom line.
I remember when you first talked about him taking over and you mentioned some of the good stuff he might bring into the table and how it might solve some problems. I was hesitant, but thought you know whatever how bad could he actually make it boy was I wrong. Because this platform has a degenerate algorithm now and the amount of crazy shit i see is honestly unbelievable. The worst part is i cant even tell what is a real account or a bot. It feels way worse now.
It’s gotten much better actually and with far fewer people needing to run it.
20:50 locked in
It's really become such a terrible platform now... I have a hard time believing anyone is actually enjoying their time on X now.
Cope
Maybe it's just the way I use Twitter, but the only change I've noticed is less censorship.
@@Null_Null_Null projection
@Drayden42 it's selective enforcement of the twitter rules.
@@number1360 Were you born last week or are you an actual NPC?
Very insightful, thank you for this
I pass 30+ minutes and I am impressed
20:50 I love this video!
"ADL controlls most of the ad spend" also "I am afraid for free speech." Brother man, do you not see hypocrisy here?
There is a lot in this video that is so goofy. like saying that unbanning everyone in 2022 makes elons 2024 growth chart unreliable and false. Videos like these make me re-question everything this guy has ever said.
@@Seventhkeyblade I can't say what I really think about Nash here, but your instincts are correct.
Devin also literally said the return on investment is god awful since around elon took (it was already bad before). Do you also know what has happened since elon took over? An overabundance of bots and extreme political polarisation (largely driven by him) + a change from "interact with people you follow" to "rage bait conversations". For me these 3 have made me not want to engage with ads. When I fall for rage bait I'm in a sour mood and a brands impression baseline will be significantly lower due to that. Bots are like 50% of the platform now as well.
Idk y'all seem to not understand psychology, know how to properly listen to a video and seem to believe your smarter than someone in the industry.
Keep coping
@@zugetzuzu Twitter wasn't making money before Elon either, they sustained the business by whoring themselves to special interests. Elon has decided to level the political playing field on his platform, and people are losing their minds. Remember when the left said "if you don't like it, just make your own platform." LMAO.
I thought almost the same thing. A lot of context was missing at the start. I disagree with a lot of what he was saying at the beginning because elon WAS talking about ADL without saying their name. He got blackmailed by ADL at scale. ADL went to advertisers and said this or that. If not ADL, someone did. A group did. Because they all walked AT THE SAME time. It was COORDINATED.
Basically Cancel Culture at a massive scale.
He covered the politiking at the end so I'll give him credit there. That was a good speech at the end.. but these advertisers DID leave the platform over politik.
20:50 still watching sir
3x speed viewer reporting for the 20:50 call-out.
I keep seeing the same old posts in my feed. It is not sorted chronologically. Old info I have already seen. It's like it never refreshes.
No way. he's made it great! i can't think of a better system than the community note. I wish every social media platform would use it. Facebook NEEDS the community note system.
“There’s no replacement for Twitter “
Nostr and the fediverse
You should open their financial statements for a company's survival it paints a different picture often and most companies even if profit goes down it's still enough to make really good future investments.
Same I only stay for the Indie game dev peeps that are on there I'm afraid it's turning people into one sided thinkers without any empathy or reasoning.
While I love to support Devin, my dislike for Elon drives me to watch this video even more
20:50 hidden messages never pass meee