Hello you savages. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/ Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 New Study About Guy Nights 06:00 What Do Women Think Guys Are Doing Together? 11:35 Explaining ‘Are We Dating the Same Guy?’ Facebook Groups 16:30 The Path to Becoming a Female Incel 20:19 Women Bragging About Abusing Men 29:09 The Advantage Women Have Over Men 33:13 Hollywood’s Damaging Portrayal of Women 37:40 The Strange Laws Around Female Sexual Assault 47:20 What Are We Misunderstanding About Domestic Violence? 55:10 Do Men Have Reproductive Rights? 1:01:54 Responding to Billie Eilish’s Comments About Men 1:07:34 Men Are Facing Higher Discrimination Than Women 1:16:38 Placing Female Victimhood on a Pedestal 1:20:00 What the Right is Telling Men 1:28:20 Sexual Assault in Male Prisons 1:32:46 The Disposability of Men 1:39:48 The Current State of Men’s Advocacy 1:48:07 Will There Be a Minister for Men? 1:53:04 Where to Find George
I keep wondering how long it will take for people in and out of the *Red Pill* space to understand that the only and inevitable solution is going to be exactly what it was *Control and domination, absolute monogamy under patriarchal dominance.* There is no alternative, *all roads lead to this.*
Could I get a source on the "largest study of its kind, men more likely to face hiring discrimination" study from 1:07:35? I was able to find sources for the others, even if it took some digging
You need new people in your life. Don't believe that can't be different. Women don't want to hear your problems. And they shouldn't. Guys do want to hear your problems. But you need to listen back. We need to support each other. And not be pussboys
His story about women bragging about abusing men reminded me of this story: a few years ago, I was at a coffeeshop. Two women were sitting next to me. They worked at a school. One woman said that a little girl was abusing a little boy. The girl was brought to this adult woman for attacking the boy, and the little girl said that the little boy was "her bitch". This adult woman says to the other adult woman that she "wanted to high five the little girl", but knew that she shouldn't. I was shocked. She wanted to celebrate a little girl being abusive to a little boy. It was so gross that these women were projecting their resentments towards men into their feelings about a girl abusing a young boy.
This is a great example of how mens issues are dismissed. First women say "well, if you're lonely it's your own fault. It's not women's job to help lonely men." Then when men try to solve the problem with mens spaces and boys nights, women shut down mens spaces and prevent their partners from hanging out with their male friends. It's always been this way, but the internet provides a record.
Yes.. and men do the same thing to females. Biological men who are trans are currently invading or trying to invade women's spaces... This is why gender issues bother me. It is not worse or better for any gender; it is extremely nuanced. There is no gender to blame. Everyone is struggling. Men should be advocating for men's health more in the public eye. I rarely see men sincerely try to bring up their issues publicly. Men should stop worrying about how others might perceive them if they do share their mental health struggles, because anyone who judges you isn't worth caring about. Pretty much everyone perpetuates their own misery or allows others to dictate how they act.
@DisPater-xs2puHe said “boys nights,” but if you are genuinely curious about which men’s/boys rights MRAs are interested in, that includes the right to protection from non-consensual circumcision, gender equality in conscription, the right to protection rather than incarceration for being victims of domestic violence (read about predominant aggressor policies and the Duluth Model), gender equality in legislation on rape (in some jurisdictions women cannot be charged with rape, only men can), as well as equal sentencing (for the same crime men face 63% longer incarceration sentences than women, a gap 6 times larger than the race gap).
Great interview! A couple of years ago I was team teaching with a colleague a class of ESL students. He was a good looking guy and all the girls used to shamelessly swoon over him (he was also married BTW). He dropped a pen and bent over to pick it up. One of our students got her phone out and took pictures of his bum. I demanded that she delete the pictures immediately as it was not ok (I'm a woman) and she couldn't see the problem. Another of my colleagues was harrassed and stalked by a female student. He was distressed over it as she was rather unhinged and he got laughed at by management when he reported it. No way would that have been ignored if he had been a member of the opposite sex. I don't like women being disrespected for sure as I have experienced some poor treatment by men in the past but at the same time, I will support my dear male friends when they are disrespected as there are so many good men out there.
Reading the comments I was reminded of a story a while back here in Finland. A man who had found yoga wanted his friends attend too, but they thought it was “only for women”, so he proceeded to start a male only yoga class. It became very popular. It was later shut down by an equality board or something, because it didn’t allow women to participate.
That sounds crazy! In America, you can have entire gyms dedicated to women, so why not a single yoga class for men? Women already have their own yoga classes.
But a women only group app is also fighting in court in Australia as men who call themselves women are sueing her for not allowing them. What an absurd world we live in. Both sexes need their own spaces. My ex cheated on me and he was destroyed by it but I make sure he wasn’t alone and that he can see our girls, we’re respectful to each other and help each other. Marriage vows are scoffed at now But are created to have a culture to liv by.
Yes! Men only Yoga! Brilliant idea. Plenty of women will be sad to hear that got shut down. There are organisations like: Man Chat and Men Who Talk in the UK which are run by men for men. And they are doing great work. So things are improving. I hope things improve in Finland too. The men there are quite like the men in the North East of Scotland (where I am from - we also have a high suicide rate, and very stoic men - such brilliant lovable men who need and deserve care and support - from other men).
It’s kind of poignant how literal strangers on the internet seem to be more understanding than people in real life: it’s almost like living a double life
Unfortunately the opposite extreme is greatly true on the internet at the same time. There are many strangers who will say the absolute worst things to people, the 'hasn't been punched in the mouth for the vile things that comes out of it and it shows' type people we have all been exposed to knowing they have the protection of hiding behind their keyboards.
@@GWRus77it's so funny lol insta comments are the worst side of humans but RUclips comments?? This is like a gathering of the most graceful philosophical gentlemen!
@@AniMeLoVeR23451I think part of it has to do with many of the videos being longer on YT and people MAY afford themselves the ability to formulate a response over the quick environment that is insta and X for example.
@AniMeLoVeR23451 Dude don't be full of it. RUclips comments may not be bad in high quantities but visit certain channels and you're bound to see some of the most cruel people imaginable. But I get my comments deleted because I called some random bloke an asshole. It's broken. Unless you're being sarcastic in which case I agree lol.
I’ve been married for 27 years. My husband regularly gets together with friends and frequently goes on fishing trips, hunting trips, etc. I actually enjoy my time alone when he’s gone. I can watch a movie, read, get stuff done around the house. I’ve never understood why my female friends complain when their husbands hang out with their friends.
You need to host a conference to explain this to all the other women. I’ve lost touch with many of my friends as we hangout once a month. It really takes a toll on the mental health.
Same, my husband goes to Jiu-jitsu a couple of times a week and he comes back so much brighter after. To the point that when he's injured or can't go for whatever reason I'm like, why don't you just go and watch you don't have to join in 😂
I’m the same. My husband went out to Comic-con with his work buddy one time and I was like “have a good time!” His work buddy commented on how awesome it was that a) I didn’t tag along and b) that I was fine with them going to nerdy geek stuff. I hung out at home and cleaned and organized stuff while having the tv run in the background (this was back in the 2000s). It was lovely. Husband had a good time, I had a good time. We were both happy. I love having the house to myself haha. With kids, I don’t get the opportunity. Now that we have kids, husband is ecstatic if he has the house to himself lol. He used to hate being home alone. He’ll admit that it was definitely insecurity and FOMO. Getting over FOMO at a young age has been a godsend over my life. I’ve always been happy to walk my own path never comparing mine to others. Edit: spelling
@@TheChuckleFactory9- issue is that people today think that one person is supposed to fulfill all your needs. It’s insane. I see both men and women do it. My ex expected me to be his everything. I tried and even got into sports so that we could talk about it together but after 3 years it’s too much to be that for someone.
As a woman this podcast was really eye opening to me. How did we get here? The women empowerment was never supposed to mean anti-men or leaving our boys and men behind. The society needs both. I hope more women listen to this and we truly reflect on how we can provide spaces and opportunities to our men to be seen and supported. Very good conversation. Thank you.
You will not find the answers in current day Feminism. You need to go back to the period of the 1875 - 1930. There is some more during the 1950-1965. In essence these time periods had books, legislations, and more importantly, programs for women. Gender Studies was not invented by women, it was a government program. Early Feminists were just aristocratic women who used their social status to show other women how good they were for women. These aristocratic women always had power, always. Actually, you'll find old manuals on how these women ran their houses. There was no "the man tells you to clean", it was 'the lady of the house tells the crew to clean stuff." There's too much to really write down in a comment. The Honeybadgers have a series on your questions under the name "HBR Talks". These are liveshows where they review old literature, old papers, but also current Feminist writings.
Unfortunately the very people that should be seeing this type of content are not seeing it. The algorithms feed you what you want to see. This applies to nearly everything in people’s lives. Unless they are slightly aware of how the system works…they can will themselves into changing the content they’re consuming.
The reality is, the feminist movement, historically, is a lot more problematic than it has been presented. Feminist history is insanely whitewashed. It has a history or supremacist, racist, and classist mindsets and rhetoric.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 fair enough that's why I said if anyone.. anyone includes men. But this video is speaking specifically about men and that's what I was referring to. If this was a video about controlling husbands/boyfriends no one would be in the comments saying "but women do that too" because that wasn't the topic. Nonetheless it's done by usually abusive partners of all genders.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 I don't know where you get your information but that's not what I've seen.. women do it a much if not even way more. Women are often worried about men cheating and will stop them, or say their friends are a bad influence. They'll call them a hundred times while they're gone to check who they're with. They'll make a scene when the partner comes back.. I'm not saying all but a lot of women do that. And the issue is that men have to take it in stride and it's not discussed as often. And that's literally what the guest was trying to say at the beginning of the video. The online reaction was crazy when it was suggested that men have some guys time... I've never seen online reaction going crazy about girls nights out
@@wyleecoyotee4252No, men are against their woman going to the CLUB, and going on "girls trips" (read: what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas). A woman who respects her man will not want to do those things. And no, most men are NOT "controlling" by having this boundary. Because thats what it is, a boundary. Men in general do not say "You can't do this.". What they do say is, "If you do this, there will be consequences.". The consequences in question are usually him breaking up with her.
As a guy who was recently divorced, apart from family, the only reason people cared about my well being was to keep me functioning at my job. They returned to not caring once I resumed doing my job.
yup, this is the thing. the evil. the bad bad. The matrix. the cold world that will eat itself to death. Im also trusting that when u say 'not caring' its in a healthy light. Caz its very codependent to have to help others all the time. Of course others do MORE when we realize someone is encountering hardship. However, I feel that a key component of living a healthy life is to not need others, that way you are available for another's hardship. so again, like I said, I am trusting that when u say 'not caring' its actually a funk. on that note > i feel ur pain
I run men’s mental health workshops and the single thing I’ve found is that we are all the same. I’ve had ex heroin addicts, psychiatrists, millionaires and your everyday guy come in. Mental health doesn’t discriminate. Men need other men to lean on. Iron sharpens iron and we need these spaces for men to just simply be men. Just as much as the women need their own spaces to be freely themselves. We keep vilifying one another when in reality we need to work with one another and respect others boundaries and spaces. Just my two cents.
remember that its not necessarily the need for completely isolated venues or sections. Its simply that we need to respect each others space. This time w/ buddies can be achieved at any place really. its merely the behavior of allowing someone to have their private time. Time to think by themselves. Decompress by themselves. reflect / introspect / etc... (I say 'themselves' but I am implying men w/men & w w/w.) Also, i'd say that 3rd spaces are becoming a commodity these days. Especially in America. Our world is slowly evolving to be soooOOOooo business oriented that loitering is only permitted if its financially efficient. However, having a place away from the home where we are not pressured to pay for time is what our society needs... very much need... To get off the screen and be present in each others company. and yeah, you are spot on in your comment. Perhaps, you even meant what I commented. I just wanted to expand/clarify.
@@tdtrecordsmusic I appreciate your response and wholeheartedly agree my friend. You've nailed what I was saying in a different light for which I am grateful. Having these spaces is therapeutic for both Men and women, away from our usual day to day as a sanctuary. Presence is key in all of this. That's why I believe separation from your usual co mixed setting is a great way to implement that, less distractions but also brings out a different side which forces you to actually be present with what is going on around you as well as interacting with like minded people. Appreciate the reply mate :)
@@tdtrecordsmusic spot on! Respect for each other's space - we all, independently of being man or woman, need time with others (partner, friends, family, etc) and time with one self.
You know, my father offered to babysit our son once while me and my wife were both working on an off-day. So he brang him to the playground, and sat there on a bench while my son went to play. 10 minutes later, cops came to ask him what he was doing here, and that a woman called them because there was a man in the playground. Damn near got arrested despite telling them he was with his grandson, but thankfully my son came to him and asked him "Papy (french for gramps), why are there cops talking to you?", at which point they believed him... My father was half laughing talking about that, I was (and still am) furious.
You have no idea how scary it is. I watched my exes 3 kids once by myself while she went to work because I loved those kids and that way they didn't have to go to daycare. My mom met her once and said I wouldn't do that again because she's been around women that will literally talk about false accusing men of anything they want and instally ruining that man's life and I just mean the really good men not creeps. And also anytime I to to the pool and see a woman by herself tanning or in the pool I make sure to go to the complete opposite side and never look over there. It's exhausting
This is why I always politely decline when my friends ask if I can watch their kids. Sorry, but no thanks. All it takes is one accusation to potentially ruin my life.
Actual fear I had with my first 2 kids. Nothing has ever happened though. I think I'm middle of the road attractive and put together and not super intimidating (I look like I could be a stay at home dad) so I'm basically invisible to the other moms at parks
I just saw a comment where a guy said guys die at 50 when guys are forever saying women are worthless by 30 🤡 I've heard guys say even younger girls are too old 😂
Doesn't fit the sob story, so it will never be mentioned until men live on average live 1 second longer than women, then it will be the highest proof that men need to do more for women.
In WEF gender gap report, they actually count women as disadvantaged if the only live 4 years LONGER than men on average. What a piece of a joke, these methodologies.
As a woman and a wife, I desperately wish we could bring back male only spaces. There used to be clubs, bars, gyms and other such places for men and I wish those would be acceptable again. They're necessary
I agree, but it is not going to happen. Society simply will not accept that. The unfortunate consequence is large numbers of disenfranchised and disillusioned men lacking comradeship and meaning while simultaneously being told they are privileged. It is completely toxic, and the steam will burst out one way or another.
Spot on! Our "gender equality" has gone way to far. I have lived in countries where there is still a decent amount of seperation between men and women and I think it's better for both genders. We are different we need our own spaces from time to time.
considering the outfits women wear to gyms these days i say they look more like strip clubs than actual gyms, so i guess u can call that a gentleman's club?
@@yt_hatesfreespeech A woman makes a sensible and sympathetic comment on the issue at hand and you take it as an opportunity to say something derogatory and in no way constructive. Maybe consider, that you're part of the problem and not the solution with that kind of behavior. Men being mean and immature sure isn't helping anything.
I’ve been married for 10 years and I can clearly see where political feminism has impacted our life together. I can mull it over and understand where it comes from; growing up with an abusive alcoholic father, sprinkle in some social media and the overall war on families lately. But it doesn’t matter. At some point we’ll have to stop punishing people for someone else’s mistakes regardless. It’s a great reminder and eye opener. Projecting our insecurities onto men and scapegoating them is not personal growth, and it is not strength. Very much the opposite. There is no more empowering thing than taking responsibility for yourself.
I’m definitely concerned about men, especially younger men. My step grandson is really struggling with trying to navigate this insane world and his father is not the greatest role model. When he was little, he was the balls to the wall, ask for forgiveness kid. Absolute hell on wheels so it never occurred to me and his grandfather that we needed to worry about him. But once he got into middle school and is now in high school, he did a complete 180 and is almost unreachable at this point. I don’t know how to break through the barrier he has built around himself, and I’m really worried about his mental and emotional health.
This is heartbreaking. I have clearly noticed that men are unfortunately being demasculated and sadly treated in our current society. This sadly contributes to the deterioration of our culture. I wish this was addressed more and understood by more.
Emasculated would be one thing, but we’re pretty far down the outright demonized for just existing path by now. It would actually be an improvement at this point to simply go back to the default of just not caring about men and just using them as utility workhorses and cannon fodder as always. At least it was without all the contempt. Older men who didn’t grow up in it can at least partially brush the cultural pressures off, if not the legal, systemic elements. But the boys raised in it from the start. I can’t imagine what it does to them.
I have zero people I can confidantly call in an emergency and have the faith that they would come, especially if it wasnt convenient for them. Mostly this is my fault. I've put everything into my business and family and didn't put in the effort it takes to maintain friendships. Now i have no support group. I work alone, I am by myself 60+ hours a week, and i dont want to discuss with my wife my worries and concerns because my job is to provide security and confidence. Not that my wife wouldn't listen, but it's ingrained in men to shut up and get the job done my any means possible because no body cares if its hard for you.
Nah dude. Talk to your wife. She wants to be there for you. Let her. As a wife of 17 years, I assure you… we want to know. Maybe we can help. Or at least listen.
@BrofUJu Not having friends is my own fault and I fully accept personal responsibility for everything in my life. The no body cares part was an example of how myself, and I think the majority of boys, were raised in the 80s / 90s, before emotional intelligence became mainstream. I could absolutely talk with my wife about anything You're right in that people should share their stresses and anxiety with their wife, and I choose not to out of an irrational fear.
@@francestaylor9156of course you want to know. So you can throw it back at him at a convenient time. Is there a square inch on earth you can resist inserting yourself? No.
@@jesserhodes7430- she can definitely feel that you’re stressed though. It might cause her a lot of stress not knowing why you’re stressed. You might think you’re helping her but it might actually be worse.
If the premise is that 'Men are not entitled to companionship or socialisation' then a following proposition could be that 'Women are not entitled to the work of Men...?' 'If the children don't feel the love of the village then they will burn it to the ground in order to feel its warmth'.
Society has made a rod for its own back. Evan's animals respond to care and attention. We could be a better society by having care and attention for men and boys
I want to preface this statement that I have a really great marriage overall and really love my wife. She's traditional and not a feminist so that's stellar. However I have been struck by her out of anger in fights multiple times. She usually goes for meaty areas like chest or upper arms but she is swinging probably 75% strength or more. I've told her she better get that under control before we have children and she then flips it to this very long drawn out depression because I said "she won't be a good mom". Super strange but I don't tolerate that type of emotional twisting of events so that's gone away. But a lesser man might fall for something like that. It made me think about how weird a situation it is. She's 5'3" and I'm 6'. I'm a weight lifter, Afghanistan war veteran, and currently an LEO. If I ever even wanted to make anything out of it, which I don't, I don't think anyone would believe me and they would probably laugh at me. Now on the flip side I have always ensured I was in control of my emotions at all times. It's critical for both of my professions. I've never even raised my voice at my wife or swore at her. But if I ever broke my calm demeanor in a fight and she wanted to make a deal of it I think everyone would turn on me in an instant and if I had legal consequences I would lose my rights and my job. I was also struck multiple times growing up by my own mom culminating with being slapped in the face when I was 15 or so. I never struck back. In my family it was just presented as a fact that women aren't capable of emotional control so they aren't responsible for outbursts. If my dad had slapped my sister, also a vet and LEO, he would have lost his rights, his job, and possibly faced jail time. My dad was also very stoic and in control of his emotions so I must have learned it from him. It's a wild double standard when it comes to consequences for physical violence.
I work at a public school district and I just went to a seminar at the central office about how relational aggression isn’t gender-specific and how wrong the old literature and “mean girl” archetypes are. It’s so bizarre to literally see the reality of these biases in the classroom and on the playground yet be told in a sterile board room under fluorescent lights that they don’t exist
*When the volume of one's pain feels too loud for them to handle, it deafens them to the volume of other's pain... That's the world today. We can't hear past the volume of our own pain.* 🙏🏾✨️
Part of the reason so many women dislike the idea of male only spaces is they project what they do in female only spaces (ie, are we dating the same guy) onto them.
A significant portion of the issue surrounding female-on-male sexual assault is that men have been gaslit for so long that *we don't actually perceive it as sexual assault*. It's a disgusting paradigm, when one sex takes advantage of the other it is rape, yet in reverse it is just the man "being a bitch" or "weak" or some other derogatory nonsense.
I’m 35 and it’s taken a while to destroy all those dreams and emotions that I had wanting a wife, family etc and has turned me into a colder, steelier but overall more at peace person. Would recommend it to men out there, no hate or malice or anything towards women or anyone for that matter but it genuinely is much more zen.
I just had this discussion in a local political group I run. Basically our potential new female MP has proposed to tackle the issue of violence against women and girls and I basically said, "does violence against men not count?" I highlighted a lot if not most of the issues talked about here. I get the impression that many women and even men dont see mens issues as an issue or they think men are always the abuser and women always the abused whilst at the same time not taking into account the many forms of abuse. One basically used conviction rates as a bench mark which convieiently dont tell the full picture as men dont report or arent taken seriously and I pointed out we wouldnt just use conviction rates when talking about rape as we know these don't tell the full picture.
Dude RUclips is getting psycho about comments. It takes 30-60 seconds sometimes for my comments to show up. Getting filtered through multiple algorithms I guess? 🤷♀️
I think the biggest overall problem with men versus women in modern culture, is that many women cannot fathom that there is a silent, hidden majority of men that are good people, who just spend their time working, exercising, and playing video games. They don't go out much, they don't date much. They just exist, alone. Men as a whole aren't violent and terrible women haters. Most just want to live our lives and be happy.
My daughter was bullied by her female classmates in primary school. I think the long-term impact of this was an important factor in her later suicide. 😢
Sorry for your loss bro. I been bullied in school, and it didn’t stop there. I know how dark things can be. I’ll live my days richer and appreciate them more, for your little girl. RIP
So so sad! I’m So sorry ! You don’t know what could have happened. Please don’t go round & round in your mind - because you just don’t know :( And never will. Maybe you can make a video about it, it maybe be healing ❤️ also if you know anyone else going through bulling - change schools ❤️
It's probably different for every man depending on age and what stage of life you're currently in, but as a married man with 3 small children, the burden of responsibility can crush you mentally. It's likely just a part of being a human male, but you feel solely responsible for the well being of every single person in your family, and to fail would mean the destruction of everything that gives you purpose. I'm sure this is a normal stress for every parent, but man can that stress crush you. You worry, all the time. And honestly, while my wife would certainly allow me to speak my mind and listen while I unload my stress through talking, I never speak about it because there's really nothing she can do to make it better. She would worry, then my kids would worry, and then I'd be failing them.
Appreciate u opening up man, we’re out here with u doing our best. Carry the struggle like a badge of honor, turn the stress u have to a super power, think about the difficult things u have overcome and how u came out the other side stronger. It turns problems into opportunities of growth and confidence building and that mindset is what powers me through. GL mate, carrying weight builds muscle
It sounds like you need a night out witth your mates. Also maybe one of the grandmas could babysit twice a month for a few hours so you and your wife could have a date night.
Did you have a group or brotherhood?. Try to talk to them. While your wife is your soulmate, your dude in brotherhood have the same wire in their brain as you because they are the same men as you. Your dude may suggest a different view that you might missed.
Phenomenal guest, covering so many topics that are over looked yet manages to articulate for both sides too. Look forward to seeing more of George on here 👌🏻
I have a large friend group of about 30-40 people mix of couples and singles about split in the middle male to female . Last month the girls decided to have a galentines and responded to have a guys only video game night at my place . We ordered pizza and booze , I have a dj setup and speakers and we just played video games and mixed music until the sun came up! It was very fun and the homies got to give each other advice on life and tips tricks . It wasn’t a therapy session it was just dudes chillen not having to worry about their fiance or trying to holler at a girl at a party . We event sent pics to the girls showing how much fun we were having and they did the same hahah.
Nice! I used to do this fairly regularly for a number of years. A lot of NHL and Rockband. Great times. Unfortunately people moved and kids came along and some people drifted away. Hoping I can get some guys back into now that kids are older.
I was the one who wrote that about the 90% of men vs. women. It was meant as a retort to someone who claimed that men were more important than women in modern society. I didn't mean it as an excuse to put down men, but as a reason why women are actually preferred, due to our traditional values. I was and am on your side, George.
The difference is that those Women are angry because the Men they self-selected didn't treat them well. There are always plenty of Men that will treat Women well. It's a matter of whether Women choose to select and support them or not.
Maybe men should be more careful who they choose to marry, they only have themselves to blame for getting all their money taken or getting DV. I don’t actually believe this, but being ironic. You can have compassion for victims, even if they could have made a better choice.
@@derpyeh9107 most women who experience abuse cannot prove it. I experienced physical abuse but did not have any material evidence to prove it. This is the case for most abuse cases. It’s a lie when you hear that women can just claim abuse and everyone believes them. It’s usually the opposite in actual experience
@@derpyeh9107 I don't agree, for the most part there is plenty a victim can do to ensure there is proof or strengthen their claim, making some social media post 6 months after the event is hardly going to convince people. Likewise, losing half your money is not as bad as being falsely accused of a serious crime.
My daughter is 4 and lives with me. Last year the police came and took her to her mums as her mum said she had seen me without my boxers on (she was returned after being interviewed by the police and children’s social services). Can we imagine a world that would happen to a mum? What do the police think happens when we go swimming or as it’s just her and I when one of us goes to the loo.
I agree with George that you are in the forefront of bringing these issues out; your videos have really helped me knowing it's not only me. I think it could be helpful if you edit/combine and narrate your videos like this (that focus on men's health and the general issues we face) to create a documentary style movie explaining the issues men are facing today. Something that can be shared and go viral; and hopefully bring more awareness. I too am tired of the hypocrisy and the idea that men have it easy; or don't have feelings, or that when we do, we are not allowed to talk about it.
I loved the idea of 2 "guys nights" per week. Women should also do "women's nights" when their guys are doing their nights. Society is becoming way too isolated with all of this technology. Loneliness statistics are crazy, especially for men.
I watched my first son become circumcised, and because of that experience decided that my second son would not be. It was truly horrific to watch that be done to a brand new baby. There is a culture here in America that is pushing for circumcision to be a thing of the past. If you’re having a boy, do as much research as you can. I made a poor choice that will affect my son for the rest of his life, don’t make that same mistake.
Affect him how? There are full grown Men that get circumcision for medical reasons. The majority do not find any differences some even claim they last longer. All medical Intervention can have side effects or benefits. I'm sure your boy will be just fine. There are cultures all over the world that have done this for centuries.
Only one per cent of all routine infant circumcisions done are medically necessary.Full grown men can choose the procedure for any reason. Affect him how? Research botched circumcisions. @@Danni6978
@@Danni6978There are cultures that have been doing it to women too for centuries, I assume your support for it comes from having volunteered for the next procedure for yourself? Think of the health benefits.
My husband and I are friends with two other couples we meet regularly by organising evening get-togethers in each-others houses. I'm not particularly close with the other women but my husband is good friends with the men and goes out with them for boys nights out every other week or so. They often go out for some food or watch sports or go to a bar or club. I'm happy that my husband has this social life and is enjoying these evenings with the boys. He would tell me about the evening and where they went, etc. - but he'd sometimes add that I shouldn't say where they went if it was a bar or a club to the other wives because the men told them they were at someone's house, etc. To me it seems weird that they would be threatened and that they don't want their husbands going to a club with their friends. I don't understand why they wouldn't trust them and then it results in the men lying to their partners - to me that's worse than going to a bar... I prefer that my husband tells me how it is and I'm happy for him to have fun and unwind with his friends. I certainly can't provide him with the type of company he gets from the boys (nor would I like to). This culture of keeping "your man" away from bars seems really counterproductive and confusing to me.
6:16 Im a woman that works as a mechanic, its a trip watching the men when theyre together lol😂 I have seen just the silliest and most childish things. It feels like a researcher documenting this unexplored species
It's because as boys, we all intrinsically understood that women were the "law" so to speak. We knew to keep our mouths shut around them, as they would weild the power of authority over us. So of COURSE we act like idiots around one another, it's the only place we actually are allowed to do that.
@@NateWilliams-h8q it's interesting to see that play out, definitely agree with you on that one. I would always wonder if they were left alone for too long or were together for too long 😂 as a dutiful researcher, I've been careful to not disrupt the natural environment😝
Whenever I pick up a tool they look horrified that I would even think about it. Once in a while they're proud of me. I dated a welder and wanted to make something he said there was no chance I'd figure it out, then another guy was like "he's a ape with a hot glue gun that won't let you play" 😂
one of my childhood friends got stabbed in the back with a screwdriver week before his 18th birthday by his female partner...murdered. oh sorry, not murdered, jury took 2hrs to find her not guilty
Hey Chris and George. Just and update on your info for the presumption of shared custody. I'm personally going though it right now so I am keenly aware of it. It did go though in Florida, quick google search: Florida law presumes that equal time-sharing between parents is in the child's best interest, unless one parent can prove that it is not. This law went into effect on July 1, 2023, and applies to pending cases where the court has not yet entered a final time-sharing order. The new law means that parents are entitled to 182.5 overnights a year each, which is equal parenting time (50/50 time-sharing).
How can people be expected to know how to date if they have never been taught and are just expected to “get it”? It’s no surprise that a large amount of people have had atrocious dating experiences because of how unprepared we are to navigate the dating world, especially today.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728When I was in a girls only highschool in 80s our teachers taught us all about dating. We were told not to date anyone who had not been introduced to our parents or who did not open the car door for us, among other things.
Im 42 now and have always been socially awkward but I didnt have to deal with social media in my younger years so I cant imagine what young men are going through right now.
This was a great conversation! I had never heard of George (but I'm a returning visitor to your channel), and was very happy to listen to such an eloquent and balanced man. Good one! The part about placing female victimhood on a pedestal especially resonated! Thank you!
I lost my brother-in-law last year to suicide. He felt that he couldn't fix his situation and had no one to help him. Community is number 1 in making men's voices heard. I am now raising his 17 year old son in the best ways I can. We talk about balance all the time and how there is a time to work and be useful/provider and a time to set up boundries for ourselves so we don't feel like we just always say yes 1000 times a day so we arn't taken advantage of. Love the Pod.
Gift him the book “Letting Go: pathway of surrender He needs it. Seriously. If he doesn’t properly deal with those emotions, he will have them for the rest of his life. + Be Here Now Channel on RUclips
Good on you for taking care of your nephew. Teaching about boundaries is key in identifying narcs so he doesn’t get into a relationship with one. Good job.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 My comment is more of self sustaining provider, take care of myself first so i can be avalibile in all the other relms of those around me.
As I get older I think people need to take more responsibility for children. This idea that we have zero control and are shocked when someone gets pregnant is just a cope. Take care of your kids people it ain’t all about you.
Man this interview was insanely good at just true on every issue. The sad part is all men know this one truth - NO ONE is coming to help us. I am 46 and I can say that for the past and future generations no one cares about you. Govt wont help you. Your family, if not destroyed by divorce, wont care about you. Try and find peace with yourself. Try and find a truely good women who loves you. If you can have a family really encourage it (I know its risky) - but always try and be careful. I see virtually no change for the next 50+ years
@@crazycrazy7710 my mistake, 5 days: International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women International Day of the Girl International Women's Day International Day of Women and Girls in Science International Day of Women in Multilateralism
1:09:40 It's really difficult to recalibrate activism like this because you have entire organizations tooled and optimized for a singular issue. If that issue is no longer an issue, than the organization no longer has a reason to exist. Their own survival becomes more important then what they originally were designed to address and they become pathological.
This was so informative.. I love your conversations with men about men! I learn so much…. Yes… we NEED male spaces and especially mentoring spaces for younger men/adolescent boys guided by secure mature men. As for women/girls gossiping and bullying… women are the worst/best at these… not a skill or tendency to be proud of… Thank you for these in-depth conversations!! ❤❤❤
My own male friends call me an incel anytime i mention a problem ive had with any woman. I haven't had sex in almost 2 years and ive been used by several women in that time but everytime its my fault because women are perfect little princesses so i must be a monster
I can relate. Sadly, My best advice would be to talk to other guys online or look into red pill content. Yes, the red pill content can be toxic at times, but there is still a lot of valuable advice that can help you. Any man who tries to talk about his dating struggles to either men or women in person will be made fun of and will be told it is all your fault. Opening up to people is the biggest scam ever told to men.
I found his criticisms of the right to be bizarre. The right is more focused on preventing castration of minors or men going into womens prisons therefore they are hypocrites? Someone isn't a hypocrite because the cause they fight for isn't identical to the one that you personally decided is more important.
I thought his criticism of the right was weird as well. The left actively hates men, and that's the side he identifies with. The right tries to help men, but do it in a way that he thinks is incorrect, and he calls them hypocrites. I like so much of what he says about men's health and men's issues, but the injection of personal politics is jarring.
If you think its ok for a parent to cut off a healthy piece of there childs body because of there personal religious beliefs(circumcision) but you do not think that a parent should be able to cut off a healthy piece of there childs body(double mastectomy) for there political beliefs then you are a hypocrite. Its not ok for a parent to mutilate there child for there religions or political beliefs like Ben Shapiro does.
Excellent interview, in the same vein as George I think you should interview the William Collins AKA Rick Bradford, author of The Illustrated Empathy Gap
1 year later on men’s issues with Chris and zero change. The biggest problem is everyone is just talking about it. No one is (or will for that matter) do anything about it. The “winners” are sharing 80-90% of the women and the rest of the men are watching these podcasts
Because Chris is here to make money. RUclips isn't a charity. You make content to be monetized, to get sponsors. What has his channel got to do with helping men? Nothing. It's got everything to do with getting clicks.
@@YTguySmithy-lk6gospeak for yourself man. His channel helped me meet like-minded men and we've built a strong network of men on their purpose. We help each other as much as we can and if any of our brothers need a shoulder to lean on, we're there for them 🤙🏽
Women are not better at language, they are better at misusing language - using the "space" between what they imply and what you infer to create damage.
There also is a story of a man whose best friend died and afterwards found out his wife cheated on him with, said, friend. The couple had a child together which turned out was actually the friends child who was now dead. The courts ordered him to pay support even after blood results proved he was not the father and yet still after divorce was to pay child support.
much worse actually, they play with playahs, then blame ALL men for what happened to them, even the nice guys who they rejected. taking zero responsiblity for their actions.
It's not a justification of male disposability it's simply a description of why society have evolved to see men as disposable. Maybe he is seeing some crazy right wing podcast advocating for male disposability but all the discussions I've seen on it are simply a discription of reality not an advocacy of male disposability
What also makes the issue about sexual assault towards men so hard to bring to light is men who say, "A woman can't rape a man. She's not strong enough. How can she do it if the man doesn't want it too?" Etc etc. Very damaging all around. Women are very capable of sexual assault and violence.
There's nothing like being in the company men only. So interesting how our demeanor changes the second a female comes in. We have a trans identified woman at work. She thinks she is one of the boys but she is mistaken. Even with her full beard. Again, our demeanor changes accordingly when she is present.
Having grown up with 3 older brothers, it bothers me greatly that men do this. I have found that I am just as silly, stupid, inappropriate and crass as any male. But tbf, I do recognize many women are not like that.
@@TheSwauzzto be fair it doesn't bother me to hear it either but I totally get why they would feel the need to filter themselves in female company. I think both men and women change our demeanor depending on who we are with.
Many men are in touch with their feelings. They feel like they don’t want to talk about their feelings all the time. But those feelings aren’t valid, because we should be more like women.
Yep. This is what women don't get. I am very in touch with my feelings. I meditate, I reflect, I know myself, I'm calm, and I've seen clearly that there is no benefit to me sharing my feelings with almost anyone. Women think they want men to "open up", but they really don't. We don't work that way. The best thing for men is when men don't mention feelings at all and just do an activity together in silence and enjoy being men. I drove 45 minutes to rock climb with one male friend in my passenger seat and we barely said a word the whole way and we both loved it.
Great podcast with George, love it! He's informed me about multiple forms of ways of how males are behind whether it be educational progress in school, statistics on S.A., and how rape is not a crime in the UK since the definition is one who penetrates, so it's gender specific. Thanks, George, Thanks, Chris.
I suffered with a severe episode of depression for about 10 years. The general attitude of society towards suffering men is "take your pills and get back to work". The only thing that actually worked was keeping my life as low stress as possible for extended time and separating myself mentally from society.
Let's be honest. The destruction of men's spaces and this need to always be involved is abusive. If it was reversed, it would be seen as such, and as men, we've got to start growing a spine and put an end to these double standards.
One of the big differences between male and female spaces is that in female spaces there is currency in being a victim and also in virtual signalling support for this victim. In mail spaces you're expected to sort it out. Advice can be given but you are expected to sort it out yourself. There is no currency in being a victim and there is no currency in virtual signalling support. The only demographic that you can be reasonably sure got their job on merit is white men. Every other demographic could be a tick box hiring. If you are a young white male entering the workplace sat in an interview room waiting for your turn and in the room is a white woman a black woman and a black man you know you are at the bottom of the list even if you are the best. So the question is why would the white especially working class man even bother trying.
"consenting to sex is not consenting to parenthood". I can agree with the sentiment of that, definitely. But if people are having unprotected sex and the man doesn't even try to pull out.... I mean, come on... pregnancy happens one way. If you didn't want parenthood then... I don't know, maybe try taking any precautions at all?
Yeah, child support laws could be improved but both men and women are responsible (or should I say irresponsible) for creating an out-of-wedlock child.
1:25:00 On circumcision: That is because your own view of men's rights on the Right is very limited and only based on popular voices. Talk to a Paul Elam, TL;DR, or the HoneyBadger Radio, and they will tell you all about it. You really have to invite a men's rights advocate like the ones I mentioned before. Because the popular voices you see and hear aren't dealing with the actual advocacy. What people forget about circumcision is that it is genital mutilation. However, the Feminists have increased the perception of FGM as more severe than MGM such as circumcision. The worst part is that Feminist will argue that it doesn't hurt men that much and that it is actually benefitial. (Which it is NOT) So, for example, there are 4 levels of genital mutilation; Level 1 is the most severe, where level 4 is the least. Level 1 is removing the clitoris for women, and removing the skin of the penis for a man. Level 4 is tattoos or piercings. Circumcision is level 2. FGM is usually either removing extras of the labia or sewing the vagina nearly closed. As you've said in this podcast, most FGM is done by old women and has its roots in traditialst and tribalist rites of passage. For men, circumcision is just 1 thing people know about. They don't know about the stripping off the skin, the removing of foreskin, the splitting of the penis and other forms. As a men's rights advocate, it is nearly illegal to know about these forms of MGM. As soon as you mention the other forms, people will gaslight you into thinking that doesn't happen, or that it's rare. Or, as you pointed out once again, that it's men doing on other men. All forms up until level 3 is illegal. Women do get labia surgery, they do get piercings, they do transform into a makeshift penis. This is all level 4 stuff.
Hello you savages. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/ Here’s the timestamps:
00:00 New Study About Guy Nights
06:00 What Do Women Think Guys Are Doing Together?
11:35 Explaining ‘Are We Dating the Same Guy?’ Facebook Groups
16:30 The Path to Becoming a Female Incel
20:19 Women Bragging About Abusing Men
29:09 The Advantage Women Have Over Men
33:13 Hollywood’s Damaging Portrayal of Women
37:40 The Strange Laws Around Female Sexual Assault
47:20 What Are We Misunderstanding About Domestic Violence?
55:10 Do Men Have Reproductive Rights?
1:01:54 Responding to Billie Eilish’s Comments About Men
1:07:34 Men Are Facing Higher Discrimination Than Women
1:16:38 Placing Female Victimhood on a Pedestal
1:20:00 What the Right is Telling Men
1:28:20 Sexual Assault in Male Prisons
1:32:46 The Disposability of Men
1:39:48 The Current State of Men’s Advocacy
1:48:07 Will There Be a Minister for Men?
1:53:04 Where to Find George
Holy SH$T, thank you for someone finally covering this because NOBODY does... this topic SPECIFICALLY.
You should read the book: Bowling Alone, by Robert A Putnam
I keep wondering how long it will take for people in and out of the *Red Pill* space to understand that the only and inevitable solution is going to be exactly what it was
*Control and domination, absolute monogamy under patriarchal dominance.*
There is no alternative, *all roads lead to this.*
Also, females aren't _InCels_ they're _VolCels_
Could I get a source on the "largest study of its kind, men more likely to face hiring discrimination" study from 1:07:35? I was able to find sources for the others, even if it took some digging
As a man, 80% of the people in your life don't want to hear about your problems, and 20% of the people are glad you have them.
Sad but true
Ouch
You need new people in your life. Don't believe that can't be different. Women don't want to hear your problems. And they shouldn't. Guys do want to hear your problems. But you need to listen back. We need to support each other. And not be pussboys
Guys, guys. the 80% and the 20% can't be mutually exclusive. It isn't that hopeless
The awful truth...
His story about women bragging about abusing men reminded me of this story: a few years ago, I was at a coffeeshop. Two women were sitting next to me. They worked at a school. One woman said that a little girl was abusing a little boy. The girl was brought to this adult woman for attacking the boy, and the little girl said that the little boy was "her bitch". This adult woman says to the other adult woman that she "wanted to high five the little girl", but knew that she shouldn't. I was shocked. She wanted to celebrate a little girl being abusive to a little boy. It was so gross that these women were projecting their resentments towards men into their feelings about a girl abusing a young boy.
Having seen similar statements this doesn't come as a surprise
A lot of women in the US have sociopathy it's very under-reported IMO.
And what profession whines more than any other about how hard they have it?
Just like everything else, if the genders were flipped, they’d call you evil. The hypocrisy is astounding.
I'm guessing race was involved as well.
This is a great example of how mens issues are dismissed. First women say "well, if you're lonely it's your own fault. It's not women's job to help lonely men." Then when men try to solve the problem with mens spaces and boys nights, women shut down mens spaces and prevent their partners from hanging out with their male friends. It's always been this way, but the internet provides a record.
Yes.. and men do the same thing to females. Biological men who are trans are currently invading or trying to invade women's spaces... This is why gender issues bother me. It is not worse or better for any gender; it is extremely nuanced. There is no gender to blame. Everyone is struggling. Men should be advocating for men's health more in the public eye. I rarely see men sincerely try to bring up their issues publicly. Men should stop worrying about how others might perceive them if they do share their mental health struggles, because anyone who judges you isn't worth caring about. Pretty much everyone perpetuates their own misery or allows others to dictate how they act.
@DisPater-xs2pu did you watch the podcast? Women were literally taking against the idea of boys nights as a solution for make loneliness.
@DisPater-xs2puHe said “boys nights,” but if you are genuinely curious about which men’s/boys rights MRAs are interested in, that includes the right to protection from non-consensual circumcision, gender equality in conscription, the right to protection rather than incarceration for being victims of domestic violence (read about predominant aggressor policies and the Duluth Model), gender equality in legislation on rape (in some jurisdictions women cannot be charged with rape, only men can), as well as equal sentencing (for the same crime men face 63% longer incarceration sentences than women, a gap 6 times larger than the race gap).
@@Asdfgh-xr6qwi think @dispater-xs2pu is the type of person to disagree and disregard anything presented to them in regards to the issues men face
Well, by my reading, her name, dis-pater, means to cut off the appendage of the father
Great interview! A couple of years ago I was team teaching with a colleague a class of ESL students. He was a good looking guy and all the girls used to shamelessly swoon over him (he was also married BTW). He dropped a pen and bent over to pick it up. One of our students got her phone out and took pictures of his bum. I demanded that she delete the pictures immediately as it was not ok (I'm a woman) and she couldn't see the problem. Another of my colleagues was harrassed and stalked by a female student. He was distressed over it as she was rather unhinged and he got laughed at by management when he reported it. No way would that have been ignored if he had been a member of the opposite sex. I don't like women being disrespected for sure as I have experienced some poor treatment by men in the past but at the same time, I will support my dear male friends when they are disrespected as there are so many good men out there.
good for you for supporting men, we need more women like you out there.
Reading the comments I was reminded of a story a while back here in Finland.
A man who had found yoga wanted his friends attend too, but they thought it was “only for women”, so he proceeded to start a male only yoga class. It became very popular.
It was later shut down by an equality board or something, because it didn’t allow women to participate.
That sounds crazy! In America, you can have entire gyms dedicated to women, so why not a single yoga class for men? Women already have their own yoga classes.
But a women only group app is also fighting in court in Australia as men who call themselves women are sueing her for not allowing them. What an absurd world we live in. Both sexes need their own spaces.
My ex cheated on me and he was destroyed by it but I make sure he wasn’t alone and that he can see our girls, we’re respectful to each other and help each other. Marriage vows are scoffed at now But are created to have a culture to liv by.
Yes! Men only Yoga! Brilliant idea. Plenty of women will be sad to hear that got shut down.
There are organisations like: Man Chat and Men Who Talk in the UK which are run by men for men. And they are doing great work. So things are improving. I hope things improve in Finland too. The men there are quite like the men in the North East of Scotland (where I am from - we also have a high suicide rate, and very stoic men - such brilliant lovable men who need and deserve care and support - from other men).
It’s kind of poignant how literal strangers on the internet seem to be more understanding than people in real life: it’s almost like living a double life
no mystery to it whatsoever. people quarrel with those with whom they have a quarrel. why would a stranger have quarrel with another stranger?
Unfortunately the opposite extreme is greatly true on the internet at the same time. There are many strangers who will say the absolute worst things to people, the 'hasn't been punched in the mouth for the vile things that comes out of it and it shows' type people we have all been exposed to knowing they have the protection of hiding behind their keyboards.
@@GWRus77it's so funny lol insta comments are the worst side of humans but RUclips comments?? This is like a gathering of the most graceful philosophical gentlemen!
@@AniMeLoVeR23451I think part of it has to do with many of the videos being longer on YT and people MAY afford themselves the ability to formulate a response over the quick environment that is insta and X for example.
@AniMeLoVeR23451 Dude don't be full of it. RUclips comments may not be bad in high quantities but visit certain channels and you're bound to see some of the most cruel people imaginable. But I get my comments deleted because I called some random bloke an asshole. It's broken.
Unless you're being sarcastic in which case I agree lol.
I’ve been married for 27 years. My husband regularly gets together with friends and frequently goes on fishing trips, hunting trips, etc. I actually enjoy my time alone when he’s gone. I can watch a movie, read, get stuff done around the house. I’ve never understood why my female friends complain when their husbands hang out with their friends.
You need to host a conference to explain this to all the other women. I’ve lost touch with many of my friends as we hangout once a month. It really takes a toll on the mental health.
Same, my husband goes to Jiu-jitsu a couple of times a week and he comes back so much brighter after. To the point that when he's injured or can't go for whatever reason I'm like, why don't you just go and watch you don't have to join in 😂
I’m the same. My husband went out to Comic-con with his work buddy one time and I was like “have a good time!” His work buddy commented on how awesome it was that a) I didn’t tag along and b) that I was fine with them going to nerdy geek stuff.
I hung out at home and cleaned and organized stuff while having the tv run in the background (this was back in the 2000s). It was lovely. Husband had a good time, I had a good time. We were both happy.
I love having the house to myself haha. With kids, I don’t get the opportunity. Now that we have kids, husband is ecstatic if he has the house to himself lol. He used to hate being home alone. He’ll admit that it was definitely insecurity and FOMO.
Getting over FOMO at a young age has been a godsend over my life. I’ve always been happy to walk my own path never comparing mine to others.
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Maybe because their husbands don’t spend any meaningful time with them
@@TheChuckleFactory9- issue is that people today think that one person is supposed to fulfill all your needs. It’s insane. I see both men and women do it.
My ex expected me to be his everything. I tried and even got into sports so that we could talk about it together but after 3 years it’s too much to be that for someone.
As a woman this podcast was really eye opening to me. How did we get here? The women empowerment was never supposed to mean anti-men or leaving our boys and men behind. The society needs both. I hope more women listen to this and we truly reflect on how we can provide spaces and opportunities to our men to be seen and supported. Very good conversation. Thank you.
You will not find the answers in current day Feminism. You need to go back to the period of the 1875 - 1930. There is some more during the 1950-1965. In essence these time periods had books, legislations, and more importantly, programs for women. Gender Studies was not invented by women, it was a government program. Early Feminists were just aristocratic women who used their social status to show other women how good they were for women. These aristocratic women always had power, always. Actually, you'll find old manuals on how these women ran their houses. There was no "the man tells you to clean", it was 'the lady of the house tells the crew to clean stuff."
There's too much to really write down in a comment. The Honeybadgers have a series on your questions under the name "HBR Talks". These are liveshows where they review old literature, old papers, but also current Feminist writings.
Unfortunately the very people that should be seeing this type of content are not seeing it. The algorithms feed you what you want to see. This applies to nearly everything in people’s lives. Unless they are slightly aware of how the system works…they can will themselves into changing the content they’re consuming.
The reality is, the feminist movement, historically, is a lot more problematic than it has been presented. Feminist history is insanely whitewashed. It has a history or supremacist, racist, and classist mindsets and rhetoric.
Its good that you're only now waking up to this, but its been this way for a while.
@@verzedahow empathetic
A lot of insecure women want to control men. If anyone wants you to drop your friends they want to isolate you
That goes for men too. Men against girls nights, weekends away etc. Lots of controlling there.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 fair enough that's why I said if anyone.. anyone includes men. But this video is speaking specifically about men and that's what I was referring to. If this was a video about controlling husbands/boyfriends no one would be in the comments saying "but women do that too" because that wasn't the topic. Nonetheless it's done by usually abusive partners of all genders.
@@frank77w
I understand that.
But since men do that against women more than women do it to men, the men really don't have a leg to stand on..
@@wyleecoyotee4252 I don't know where you get your information but that's not what I've seen.. women do it a much if not even way more. Women are often worried about men cheating and will stop them, or say their friends are a bad influence. They'll call them a hundred times while they're gone to check who they're with. They'll make a scene when the partner comes back.. I'm not saying all but a lot of women do that. And the issue is that men have to take it in stride and it's not discussed as often. And that's literally what the guest was trying to say at the beginning of the video. The online reaction was crazy when it was suggested that men have some guys time... I've never seen online reaction going crazy about girls nights out
@@wyleecoyotee4252No, men are against their woman going to the CLUB, and going on "girls trips" (read: what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas). A woman who respects her man will not want to do those things. And no, most men are NOT "controlling" by having this boundary. Because thats what it is, a boundary. Men in general do not say "You can't do this.". What they do say is, "If you do this, there will be consequences.". The consequences in question are usually him breaking up with her.
As a guy who was recently divorced, apart from family, the only reason people cared about my well being was to keep me functioning at my job. They returned to not caring once I resumed doing my job.
yup, this is the thing. the evil. the bad bad. The matrix. the cold world that will eat itself to death. Im also trusting that when u say 'not caring' its in a healthy light. Caz its very codependent to have to help others all the time.
Of course others do MORE when we realize someone is encountering hardship. However, I feel that a key component of living a healthy life is to not need others, that way you are available for another's hardship. so again, like I said, I am trusting that when u say 'not caring' its actually a funk. on that note > i feel ur pain
You should read a great book by Dr Devon Price called: Laziness Does Not Exist. It sounds like you would get a lot from that book.
I run men’s mental health workshops and the single thing I’ve found is that we are all the same. I’ve had ex heroin addicts, psychiatrists, millionaires and your everyday guy come in. Mental health doesn’t discriminate. Men need other men to lean on. Iron sharpens iron and we need these spaces for men to just simply be men.
Just as much as the women need their own spaces to be freely themselves. We keep vilifying one another when in reality we need to work with one another and respect others boundaries and spaces.
Just my two cents.
remember that its not necessarily the need for completely isolated venues or sections. Its simply that we need to respect each others space. This time w/ buddies can be achieved at any place really. its merely the behavior of allowing someone to have their private time. Time to think by themselves. Decompress by themselves. reflect / introspect / etc... (I say 'themselves' but I am implying men w/men & w w/w.)
Also, i'd say that 3rd spaces are becoming a commodity these days. Especially in America. Our world is slowly evolving to be soooOOOooo business oriented that loitering is only permitted if its financially efficient. However, having a place away from the home where we are not pressured to pay for time is what our society needs... very much need... To get off the screen and be present in each others company.
and yeah, you are spot on in your comment. Perhaps, you even meant what I commented. I just wanted to expand/clarify.
@@tdtrecordsmusic I appreciate your response and wholeheartedly agree my friend.
You've nailed what I was saying in a different light for which I am grateful. Having these spaces is therapeutic for both Men and women, away from our usual day to day as a sanctuary. Presence is key in all of this. That's why I believe separation from your usual co mixed setting is a great way to implement that, less distractions but also brings out a different side which forces you to actually be present with what is going on around you as well as interacting with like minded people. Appreciate the reply mate :)
@@samuel.snowdon93 thx man. you too. help the world heal
@@tdtrecordsmusic spot on! Respect for each other's space - we all, independently of being man or woman, need time with others (partner, friends, family, etc) and time with one self.
Beautifully said. Men need other men. And it takes bravery to step up and be those men that other men lean on.
You know, my father offered to babysit our son once while me and my wife were both working on an off-day. So he brang him to the playground, and sat there on a bench while my son went to play.
10 minutes later, cops came to ask him what he was doing here, and that a woman called them because there was a man in the playground. Damn near got arrested despite telling them he was with his grandson, but thankfully my son came to him and asked him "Papy (french for gramps), why are there cops talking to you?", at which point they believed him...
My father was half laughing talking about that, I was (and still am) furious.
You have no idea how scary it is. I watched my exes 3 kids once by myself while she went to work because I loved those kids and that way they didn't have to go to daycare. My mom met her once and said I wouldn't do that again because she's been around women that will literally talk about false accusing men of anything they want and instally ruining that man's life and I just mean the really good men not creeps. And also anytime I to to the pool and see a woman by herself tanning or in the pool I make sure to go to the complete opposite side and never look over there. It's exhausting
...Once again but in ENGLISH please, @@conorjordan19?
I wonder if this is a city problem, rurally I often see fathers and grandfathers with kids at parks.
This is why I always politely decline when my friends ask if I can watch their kids. Sorry, but no thanks. All it takes is one accusation to potentially ruin my life.
Actual fear I had with my first 2 kids. Nothing has ever happened though. I think I'm middle of the road attractive and put together and not super intimidating (I look like I could be a stay at home dad) so I'm basically invisible to the other moms at parks
Imagine the outrage if mens' life expectancy was years longer than a woman's.
I just saw a comment where a guy said guys die at 50 when guys are forever saying women are worthless by 30 🤡 I've heard guys say even younger girls are too old 😂
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It's all over the manosphere about the wall for women.
Doesn't fit the sob story, so it will never be mentioned until men live on average live 1 second longer than women, then it will be the highest proof that men need to do more for women.
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I mean, there is a biological wall they hit.
The rest is more of an opinion with some hint of truth to it.
In WEF gender gap report, they actually count women as disadvantaged if the only live 4 years LONGER than men on average. What a piece of a joke, these methodologies.
As a woman and a wife, I desperately wish we could bring back male only spaces. There used to be clubs, bars, gyms and other such places for men and I wish those would be acceptable again. They're necessary
I agree, but it is not going to happen. Society simply will not accept that. The unfortunate consequence is large numbers of disenfranchised and disillusioned men lacking comradeship and meaning while simultaneously being told they are privileged. It is completely toxic, and the steam will burst out one way or another.
Spot on! Our "gender equality" has gone way to far. I have lived in countries where there is still a decent amount of seperation between men and women and I think it's better for both genders. We are different we need our own spaces from time to time.
considering the outfits women wear to gyms these days i say they look more like strip clubs than actual gyms, so i guess u can call that a gentleman's club?
Yeah! A place just for guys to be dudes.
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A woman makes a sensible and sympathetic comment on the issue at hand and you take it as an opportunity to say something derogatory and in no way constructive. Maybe consider, that you're part of the problem and not the solution with that kind of behavior. Men being mean and immature sure isn't helping anything.
I’ve been married for 10 years and I can clearly see where political feminism has impacted our life together. I can mull it over and understand where it comes from; growing up with an abusive alcoholic father, sprinkle in some social media and the overall war on families lately. But it doesn’t matter. At some point we’ll have to stop punishing people for someone else’s mistakes regardless. It’s a great reminder and eye opener. Projecting our insecurities onto men and scapegoating them is not personal growth, and it is not strength. Very much the opposite. There is no more empowering thing than taking responsibility for yourself.
Men at a young age - try to express pain from women and feminism - but they continually get beat down. Until they beat themselves out of the game.
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I’m definitely concerned about men, especially younger men.
My step grandson is really struggling with trying to navigate this insane world and his father is not the greatest role model.
When he was little, he was the balls to the wall, ask for forgiveness kid. Absolute hell on wheels so it never occurred to me and his grandfather that we needed to worry about him.
But once he got into middle school and is now in high school, he did a complete 180 and is almost unreachable at this point.
I don’t know how to break through the barrier he has built around himself, and I’m really worried about his mental and emotional health.
This is heartbreaking. I have clearly noticed that men are unfortunately being demasculated and sadly treated in our current society. This sadly contributes to the deterioration of our culture. I wish this was addressed more and understood by more.
Emasculated would be one thing, but we’re pretty far down the outright demonized for just existing path by now. It would actually be an improvement at this point to simply go back to the default of just not caring about men and just using them as utility workhorses and cannon fodder as always. At least it was without all the contempt.
Older men who didn’t grow up in it can at least partially brush the cultural pressures off, if not the legal, systemic elements. But the boys raised in it from the start. I can’t imagine what it does to them.
I have zero people I can confidantly call in an emergency and have the faith that they would come, especially if it wasnt convenient for them. Mostly this is my fault. I've put everything into my business and family and didn't put in the effort it takes to maintain friendships. Now i have no support group. I work alone, I am by myself 60+ hours a week, and i dont want to discuss with my wife my worries and concerns because my job is to provide security and confidence. Not that my wife wouldn't listen, but it's ingrained in men to shut up and get the job done my any means possible because no body cares if its hard for you.
But that's a lie you've told yourself, no? People do care. The fact that you feel like you can't call your wife in an emergency is a massive problem.
Nah dude. Talk to your wife. She wants to be there for you. Let her. As a wife of 17 years, I assure you… we want to know. Maybe we can help. Or at least listen.
@BrofUJu Not having friends is my own fault and I fully accept personal responsibility for everything in my life. The no body cares part was an example of how myself, and I think the majority of boys, were raised in the 80s / 90s, before emotional intelligence became mainstream. I could absolutely talk with my wife about anything You're right in that people should share their stresses and anxiety with their wife, and I choose not to out of an irrational fear.
@@francestaylor9156of course you want to know. So you can throw it back at him at a convenient time. Is there a square inch on earth you can resist inserting yourself? No.
@@jesserhodes7430- she can definitely feel that you’re stressed though. It might cause her a lot of stress not knowing why you’re stressed. You might think you’re helping her but it might actually be worse.
"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation."
Enjoy your cats and boxed wine
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Because I'm educated?
@@jeffshaw526
Passing on a few gems men say to women, so I'm sure it's copasetic.
@wyleecoyotee4252 I don't see it as something that men say to women. It's more of a reassurance that other blokes need to hear sometimes.
@@jeffshaw526
It's all over the manosphere, and I'm sure even in comments in this podcast
If the premise is that 'Men are not entitled to companionship or socialisation' then a following proposition could be that 'Women are not entitled to the work of Men...?' 'If the children don't feel the love of the village then they will burn it to the ground in order to feel its warmth'.
Society has made a rod for its own back. Evan's animals respond to care and attention. We could be a better society by having care and attention for men and boys
And some people wonder why men would want to opt out of all this bs to live a quiet harmonious life.
MGTOW
I want to preface this statement that I have a really great marriage overall and really love my wife. She's traditional and not a feminist so that's stellar. However I have been struck by her out of anger in fights multiple times. She usually goes for meaty areas like chest or upper arms but she is swinging probably 75% strength or more. I've told her she better get that under control before we have children and she then flips it to this very long drawn out depression because I said "she won't be a good mom". Super strange but I don't tolerate that type of emotional twisting of events so that's gone away. But a lesser man might fall for something like that.
It made me think about how weird a situation it is. She's 5'3" and I'm 6'. I'm a weight lifter, Afghanistan war veteran, and currently an LEO. If I ever even wanted to make anything out of it, which I don't, I don't think anyone would believe me and they would probably laugh at me. Now on the flip side I have always ensured I was in control of my emotions at all times. It's critical for both of my professions. I've never even raised my voice at my wife or swore at her. But if I ever broke my calm demeanor in a fight and she wanted to make a deal of it I think everyone would turn on me in an instant and if I had legal consequences I would lose my rights and my job.
I was also struck multiple times growing up by my own mom culminating with being slapped in the face when I was 15 or so. I never struck back. In my family it was just presented as a fact that women aren't capable of emotional control so they aren't responsible for outbursts. If my dad had slapped my sister, also a vet and LEO, he would have lost his rights, his job, and possibly faced jail time. My dad was also very stoic and in control of his emotions so I must have learned it from him. It's a wild double standard when it comes to consequences for physical violence.
I work at a public school district and I just went to a seminar at the central office about how relational aggression isn’t gender-specific and how wrong the old literature and “mean girl” archetypes are. It’s so bizarre to literally see the reality of these biases in the classroom and on the playground yet be told in a sterile board room under fluorescent lights that they don’t exist
*When the volume of one's pain feels too loud for them to handle, it deafens them to the volume of other's pain... That's the world today. We can't hear past the volume of our own pain.* 🙏🏾✨️
They asked us to open up and when we did, they threw us under the bus.
Just like they threw housewives under the bus.
Part of the reason so many women dislike the idea of male only spaces is they project what they do in female only spaces (ie, are we dating the same guy) onto them.
A significant portion of the issue surrounding female-on-male sexual assault is that men have been gaslit for so long that *we don't actually perceive it as sexual assault*. It's a disgusting paradigm, when one sex takes advantage of the other it is rape, yet in reverse it is just the man "being a bitch" or "weak" or some other derogatory nonsense.
I’m 35 and it’s taken a while to destroy all those dreams and emotions that I had wanting a wife, family etc and has turned me into a colder, steelier but overall more at peace person. Would recommend it to men out there, no hate or malice or anything towards women or anyone for that matter but it genuinely is much more zen.
Good for you. I've found as I aged that sex is less important, so women have less to offer. The balance is a net negative usually.
I just had this discussion in a local political group I run. Basically our potential new female MP has proposed to tackle the issue of violence against women and girls and I basically said, "does violence against men not count?" I highlighted a lot if not most of the issues talked about here.
I get the impression that many women and even men dont see mens issues as an issue or they think men are always the abuser and women always the abused whilst at the same time not taking into account the many forms of abuse.
One basically used conviction rates as a bench mark which convieiently dont tell the full picture as men dont report or arent taken seriously and I pointed out we wouldnt just use conviction rates when talking about rape as we know these don't tell the full picture.
I was i hospital recently (as a patient) and it was really heartwarming to experience how a bunch of random men basically looked out for each other.
I'd much rather die alone than to be with anyone who is viewed as an ideal modern woman
Yup. Don't wanna know em.
A lot of that's going to be happening in the coming year.
Strange how a comment about a mens health clinic in Niagra got deleted. Algoritms that tilted in the IDGAF about men direction.
Most of my comments get deleted.
Dude RUclips is getting psycho about comments. It takes 30-60 seconds sometimes for my comments to show up. Getting filtered through multiple algorithms I guess? 🤷♀️
I think the biggest overall problem with men versus women in modern culture, is that many women cannot fathom that there is a silent, hidden majority of men that are good people, who just spend their time working, exercising, and playing video games. They don't go out much, they don't date much. They just exist, alone. Men as a whole aren't violent and terrible women haters. Most just want to live our lives and be happy.
My daughter was bullied by her female classmates in primary school. I think the long-term impact of this was an important factor in her later suicide. 😢
Sorry for your loss bro. I been bullied in school, and it didn’t stop there. I know how dark things can be. I’ll live my days richer and appreciate them more, for your little girl. RIP
Sooooo sorry for your loss I also have a daughter who commited suicide at 21 it was my 55th birthday worse day ever
So so sad! I’m
So sorry ! You don’t know what could have happened. Please don’t go round & round in your mind - because you just don’t know :(
And never will. Maybe you can make a video about it, it maybe be healing ❤️ also if you know anyone else going through bulling - change schools ❤️
This was one of the best discussions I've seen on this topic. Thanks so much to both of you.
My two favorite creators on the topic, talking about the subject I’m personally most passionate about learning. Thank you!
It's probably different for every man depending on age and what stage of life you're currently in, but as a married man with 3 small children, the burden of responsibility can crush you mentally. It's likely just a part of being a human male, but you feel solely responsible for the well being of every single person in your family, and to fail would mean the destruction of everything that gives you purpose. I'm sure this is a normal stress for every parent, but man can that stress crush you. You worry, all the time. And honestly, while my wife would certainly allow me to speak my mind and listen while I unload my stress through talking, I never speak about it because there's really nothing she can do to make it better. She would worry, then my kids would worry, and then I'd be failing them.
Yeah, that's where the phrase "failure is not an option" comes from. It's chilling when you consider what it means.
Appreciate u opening up man, we’re out here with u doing our best. Carry the struggle like a badge of honor, turn the stress u have to a super power, think about the difficult things u have overcome and how u came out the other side stronger. It turns problems into opportunities of growth and confidence building and that mindset is what powers me through. GL mate, carrying weight builds muscle
It sounds like you need a night out witth your mates. Also maybe one of the grandmas could babysit twice a month for a few hours so you and your wife could have a date night.
This is a great description of fatherhood.
Did you have a group or brotherhood?. Try to talk to them. While your wife is your soulmate, your dude in brotherhood have the same wire in their brain as you because they are the same men as you. Your dude may suggest a different view that you might missed.
Absolutely outstanding interview! This message needs to spread far and wide. Thank you Chris for your awesome channel!
utterly. totally. one of the best. interviews. you. done. Chris!
Phenomenal guest, covering so many topics that are over looked yet manages to articulate for both sides too. Look forward to seeing more of George on here 👌🏻
I have a large friend group of about 30-40 people mix of couples and singles about split in the middle male to female . Last month the girls decided to have a galentines and responded to have a guys only video game night at my place . We ordered pizza and booze , I have a dj setup and speakers and we just played video games and mixed music until the sun came up! It was very fun and the homies got to give each other advice on life and tips tricks . It wasn’t a therapy session it was just dudes chillen not having to worry about their fiance or trying to holler at a girl at a party . We event sent pics to the girls showing how much fun we were having and they did the same hahah.
Nice! I used to do this fairly regularly for a number of years. A lot of NHL and Rockband. Great times.
Unfortunately people moved and kids came along and some people drifted away.
Hoping I can get some guys back into now that kids are older.
Cool. I'm going to become an hero now.
I was the one who wrote that about the 90% of men vs. women. It was meant as a retort to someone who claimed that men were more important than women in modern society. I didn't mean it as an excuse to put down men, but as a reason why women are actually preferred, due to our traditional values. I was and am on your side, George.
The difference is that those Women are angry because the Men they self-selected didn't treat them well. There are always plenty of Men that will treat Women well. It's a matter of whether Women choose to select and support them or not.
Maybe men should be more careful who they choose to marry, they only have themselves to blame for getting all their money taken or getting DV. I don’t actually believe this, but being ironic. You can have compassion for victims, even if they could have made a better choice.
@@evalebedinsky3830 The difference is that there is a paper trail documenting the man's loss. Most of the time women claim abuse, there's no proof.
@@evalebedinsky3830you're right tho, men do need to choose wisely with who they marry
@@derpyeh9107 most women who experience abuse cannot prove it. I experienced physical abuse but did not have any material evidence to prove it. This is the case for most abuse cases. It’s a lie when you hear that women can just claim abuse and everyone believes them. It’s usually the opposite in actual experience
@@derpyeh9107 I don't agree, for the most part there is plenty a victim can do to ensure there is proof or strengthen their claim, making some social media post 6 months after the event is hardly going to convince people. Likewise, losing half your money is not as bad as being falsely accused of a serious crime.
It’s all about power:
If she cannot seduce you,
She will try to bully you.
Great conversation, thank you!
My daughter is 4 and lives with me. Last year the police came and took her to her mums as her mum said she had seen me without my boxers on (she was returned after being interviewed by the police and children’s social services).
Can we imagine a world that would happen to a mum?
What do the police think happens when we go swimming or as it’s just her and I when one of us goes to the loo.
To answer the question, outside of a few Family and Friends (and the odd Men's Advocate), nobody gives a crap about Men. It's that simple.
you forgot to add the odd people with a sense of morality, a excusable error because of how rare of a minority they are
fast forward and men will eventually swing the pendulum back the other way. That's the nature of having had enough
Calm down. 😄
@@colorpg152 You are right. Those are very rare. Even to most of those who approximate that, Men's issues are largely invisible.
I agree with George that you are in the forefront of bringing these issues out; your videos have really helped me knowing it's not only me. I think it could be helpful if you edit/combine and narrate your videos like this (that focus on men's health and the general issues we face) to create a documentary style movie explaining the issues men are facing today. Something that can be shared and go viral; and hopefully bring more awareness. I too am tired of the hypocrisy and the idea that men have it easy; or don't have feelings, or that when we do, we are not allowed to talk about it.
And I respect your professional, logical and intelligent approach to these topics.
I loved the idea of 2 "guys nights" per week. Women should also do "women's nights" when their guys are doing their nights. Society is becoming way too isolated with all of this technology. Loneliness statistics are crazy, especially for men.
All works fine until you have kids.
I watched my first son become circumcised, and because of that experience decided that my second son would not be. It was truly horrific to watch that be done to a brand new baby. There is a culture here in America that is pushing for circumcision to be a thing of the past. If you’re having a boy, do as much research as you can. I made a poor choice that will affect my son for the rest of his life, don’t make that same mistake.
Affect him how? There are full grown Men that get circumcision for medical reasons. The majority do not find any differences some even claim they last longer. All medical Intervention can have side effects or benefits. I'm sure your boy will be just fine. There are cultures all over the world that have done this for centuries.
@@Danni6978How about just not mutilating babies? Besides how can they know what they're missing out on when they don't know the difference?
Only one per cent of all routine infant circumcisions done are medically necessary.Full grown men can choose the procedure for any reason. Affect him how? Research botched circumcisions. @@Danni6978
@@Danni6978There are cultures that have been doing it to women too for centuries, I assume your support for it comes from having volunteered for the next procedure for yourself? Think of the health benefits.
One man who got circumcised in his twenties reported that before, he had a racing car, afterwards, he felt like a VW Beetle.
My husband and I are friends with two other couples we meet regularly by organising evening get-togethers in each-others houses.
I'm not particularly close with the other women but my husband is good friends with the men and goes out with them for boys nights out every other week or so. They often go out for some food or watch sports or go to a bar or club.
I'm happy that my husband has this social life and is enjoying these evenings with the boys. He would tell me about the evening and where they went, etc. - but he'd sometimes add that I shouldn't say where they went if it was a bar or a club to the other wives because the men told them they were at someone's house, etc.
To me it seems weird that they would be threatened and that they don't want their husbands going to a club with their friends. I don't understand why they wouldn't trust them and then it results in the men lying to their partners - to me that's worse than going to a bar...
I prefer that my husband tells me how it is and I'm happy for him to have fun and unwind with his friends. I certainly can't provide him with the type of company he gets from the boys (nor would I like to).
This culture of keeping "your man" away from bars seems really counterproductive and confusing to me.
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Im a woman that works as a mechanic, its a trip watching the men when theyre together lol😂 I have seen just the silliest and most childish things. It feels like a researcher documenting this unexplored species
It's because as boys, we all intrinsically understood that women were the "law" so to speak. We knew to keep our mouths shut around them, as they would weild the power of authority over us. So of COURSE we act like idiots around one another, it's the only place we actually are allowed to do that.
@@NateWilliams-h8q it's interesting to see that play out, definitely agree with you on that one. I would always wonder if they were left alone for too long or were together for too long 😂 as a dutiful researcher, I've been careful to not disrupt the natural environment😝
Whenever I pick up a tool they look horrified that I would even think about it. Once in a while they're proud of me. I dated a welder and wanted to make something he said there was no chance I'd figure it out, then another guy was like "he's a ape with a hot glue gun that won't let you play" 😂
@@terrorists-are-among-us a hot glue gun 🤣🤣 the trade workers will say the funniest things 😂
Im a jet mechanic. I have worked nearly exclusively with men for 15 yrs. I do NOT have a very good opinion of them. Horrible
I only keep trying because I want to make my mom proud.
This is a brilliant show. Get more topics and guest like this Chris please.
one of my childhood friends got stabbed in the back with a screwdriver week before his 18th birthday by his female partner...murdered. oh sorry, not murdered, jury took 2hrs to find her not guilty
A great example of "male privilege".
When you look about abuse in same sex relationships, Lesbian relationships are the most violent.
That's horrendous! Bless you and yours, him and he's.
We are living in a Spiritual Desert
Thank you for this Chris, and for publicising it. This has been a great episode. Thank you 🙏
This dude gets it
Bros need Bros
Life isn’t easy without backup
Why was there an emotion-react backlash to the study? Because women would have less access to emasculate.
Power.
This dude became legend when he brought up circumcision. He's such a clear and consistent thinker.
Hey Chris and George. Just and update on your info for the presumption of shared custody. I'm personally going though it right now so I am keenly aware of it.
It did go though in Florida, quick google search:
Florida law presumes that equal time-sharing between parents is in the child's best interest, unless one parent can prove that it is not. This law went into effect on July 1, 2023, and applies to pending cases where the court has not yet entered a final time-sharing order. The new law means that parents are entitled to 182.5 overnights a year each, which is equal parenting time (50/50 time-sharing).
This is such an important issue that I didn't even know existed. Thank you Chris and George for helping me learn and grow. ❤
How can people be expected to know how to date if they have never been taught and are just expected to “get it”? It’s no surprise that a large amount of people have had atrocious dating experiences because of how unprepared we are to navigate the dating world, especially today.
Yes, I wish parents and/or clergy and/or teachers would teach teens how to date.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728When I was in a girls only highschool in 80s our teachers taught us all about dating. We were told not to date anyone who had not been introduced to our parents or who did not open the car door for us, among other things.
Im 42 now and have always been socially awkward but I didnt have to deal with social media in my younger years so I cant imagine what young men are going through right now.
That's horrible, I'm sorry as a woman some can be awful and absolutely toxic.
This was a great conversation! I had never heard of George (but I'm a returning visitor to your channel), and was very happy to listen to such an eloquent and balanced man. Good one! The part about placing female victimhood on a pedestal especially resonated! Thank you!
I lost my brother-in-law last year to suicide. He felt that he couldn't fix his situation and had no one to help him. Community is number 1 in making men's voices heard. I am now raising his 17 year old son in the best ways I can. We talk about balance all the time and how there is a time to work and be useful/provider and a time to set up boundries for ourselves so we don't feel like we just always say yes 1000 times a day so we arn't taken advantage of. Love the Pod.
Gift him the book “Letting Go: pathway of surrender
He needs it. Seriously. If he doesn’t properly deal with those emotions, he will have them for the rest of his life.
+ Be Here Now Channel on RUclips
Good on you for taking care of your nephew. Teaching about boundaries is key in identifying narcs so he doesn’t get into a relationship with one. Good job.
Maybe you should progress to the current century where he doesn't have to be the lone provider.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 My comment is more of self sustaining provider, take care of myself first so i can be avalibile in all the other relms of those around me.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 You are cruel. Shame on you.
Loved the calm and balance in this episode. Thanks.
As I get older I think people need to take more responsibility for children. This idea that we have zero control and are shocked when someone gets pregnant is just a cope. Take care of your kids people it ain’t all about you.
Man this interview was insanely good at just true on every issue. The sad part is all men know this one truth - NO ONE is coming to help us. I am 46 and I can say that for the past and future generations no one cares about you. Govt wont help you. Your family, if not destroyed by divorce, wont care about you. Try and find peace with yourself. Try and find a truely good women who loves you. If you can have a family really encourage it (I know its risky) - but always try and be careful. I see virtually no change for the next 50+ years
UNESCO have 4 international days for females, 1 for mangroves, none for men.
not 4 days dude, a month also known as "Women's History Month". International men's day is the world's toilet day, I kid you not.
@@crazycrazy7710 my mistake, 5 days:
International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women
International Day of the Girl
International Women's Day
International Day of Women and Girls in Science
International Day of Women in Multilateralism
1:09:40 It's really difficult to recalibrate activism like this because you have entire organizations tooled and optimized for a singular issue. If that issue is no longer an issue, than the organization no longer has a reason to exist. Their own survival becomes more important then what they originally were designed to address and they become pathological.
The same people complaining about men’s health are mockingly drinking out of male tear mugs
They'll care when the lights go out. And they will go out.
This was so informative.. I love your conversations with men about men! I learn so much….
Yes… we NEED male spaces and especially mentoring spaces for younger men/adolescent boys guided by secure mature men.
As for women/girls gossiping and bullying… women are the worst/best at these… not a skill or tendency to be proud of…
Thank you for these in-depth conversations!! ❤❤❤
My own male friends call me an incel anytime i mention a problem ive had with any woman. I haven't had sex in almost 2 years and ive been used by several women in that time but everytime its my fault because women are perfect little princesses so i must be a monster
I can relate. Sadly, My best advice would be to talk to other guys online or look into red pill content. Yes, the red pill content can be toxic at times, but there is still a lot of valuable advice that can help you. Any man who tries to talk about his dating struggles to either men or women in person will be made fun of and will be told it is all your fault. Opening up to people is the biggest scam ever told to men.
You're not entitled to women's bodies
@@aquarius-woman5364obviously, he never claimed otherwise. But thanks for participating with a useless trope.
2 years. Wow man, enjoy the memories. Its been 7 for me. I dont even think I could if I tried. Im completely dead to all of that.
@@aquarius-woman5364You sound like the reason men are ao unhappy
I found his criticisms of the right to be bizarre. The right is more focused on preventing castration of minors or men going into womens prisons therefore they are hypocrites? Someone isn't a hypocrite because the cause they fight for isn't identical to the one that you personally decided is more important.
I thought his criticism of the right was weird as well. The left actively hates men, and that's the side he identifies with. The right tries to help men, but do it in a way that he thinks is incorrect, and he calls them hypocrites. I like so much of what he says about men's health and men's issues, but the injection of personal politics is jarring.
@HelloOkihe never did that what are you talking about.
If you think its ok for a parent to cut off a healthy piece of there childs body because of there personal religious beliefs(circumcision) but you do not think that a parent should be able to cut off a healthy piece of there childs body(double mastectomy) for there political beliefs then you are a hypocrite. Its not ok for a parent to mutilate there child for there religions or political beliefs like Ben Shapiro does.
Excellent interview, in the same vein as George I think you should interview the William Collins AKA Rick Bradford, author of The Illustrated Empathy Gap
1 year later on men’s issues with Chris and zero change. The biggest problem is everyone is just talking about it. No one is (or will for that matter) do anything about it. The “winners” are sharing 80-90% of the women and the rest of the men are watching these podcasts
Because Chris is here to make money. RUclips isn't a charity.
You make content to be monetized, to get sponsors.
What has his channel got to do with helping men? Nothing. It's got everything to do with getting clicks.
@@YTguySmithy-lk6gospeak for yourself man. His channel helped me meet like-minded men and we've built a strong network of men on their purpose. We help each other as much as we can and if any of our brothers need a shoulder to lean on, we're there for them 🤙🏽
There is no evidence 80-90% of women are being shared by a minority of men, it’s entirely made up
@@brianmeen2158that dude is delusional. Unable to see authenticity in other people.
@@brianmeen2158 Hope? Like thoughts and prayers you mean?
Holy fuck I swear Chris just hit 1 million and what feels like overnight has doubled that to 2 million 😮 congrats man
Women are not better at language, they are better at misusing language - using the "space" between what they imply and what you infer to create damage.
There also is a story of a man whose best friend died and afterwards found out his wife cheated on him with, said, friend. The couple had a child together which turned out was actually the friends child who was now dead. The courts ordered him to pay support even after blood results proved he was not the father and yet still after divorce was to pay child support.
What causes these disgruntled Women? That's obvious. They play with Playahs, then complain they get played. It's that simple.
much worse actually, they play with playahs, then blame ALL men for what happened to them, even the nice guys who they rejected. taking zero responsiblity for their actions.
I know, damn them for being lied to. They should just never believe males and avoid them altogether 😂
They hate players, yet it’s on their board that the game is played.
I started playing music with a group of guys once every two weeks, and it has done wonders for my mental health.
Jamming is the closest I ever get to a spiritual experience.
Ignore this issue long enough and the issue will solve it self as men continue to check out of the labor market dating pool and sadly life
I dated a woman who is bisexual, and she said bisexual guys are kind of gay, and she finds it a turn off
I have an unfortunate ability for attracting bi chicks, even though I do not want to be with them (long term). It's a very specific kind of hell tbh.
If someone said her bisexuality turns them off, she would say that is misogyny and we all know it. 🫤
It's not a justification of male disposability it's simply a description of why society have evolved to see men as disposable. Maybe he is seeing some crazy right wing podcast advocating for male disposability but all the discussions I've seen on it are simply a discription of reality not an advocacy of male disposability
What also makes the issue about sexual assault towards men so hard to bring to light is men who say, "A woman can't rape a man. She's not strong enough. How can she do it if the man doesn't want it too?" Etc etc. Very damaging all around. Women are very capable of sexual assault and violence.
There's nothing like being in the company men only. So interesting how our demeanor changes the second a female comes in. We have a trans identified woman at work. She thinks she is one of the boys but she is mistaken. Even with her full beard. Again, our demeanor changes accordingly when she is present.
Of course. I don’t know why ppl think that’s weird. Women do it too. If a man is around, things are different for women as well.
Having grown up with 3 older brothers, it bothers me greatly that men do this. I have found that I am just as silly, stupid, inappropriate and crass as any male. But tbf, I do recognize many women are not like that.
@@TheSwauzz nah you just think you are, you're not. Just like every other woman who has regurgitated that exact same sentence.
Of course your demeanor changes. That is natural. Don't feel bad because people want you to feel a way in which reality doesn't support it.
@@TheSwauzzto be fair it doesn't bother me to hear it either but I totally get why they would feel the need to filter themselves in female company. I think both men and women change our demeanor depending on who we are with.
Important conversation with a great dude.
Many men are in touch with their feelings. They feel like they don’t want to talk about their feelings all the time. But those feelings aren’t valid, because we should be more like women.
Yep. This is what women don't get. I am very in touch with my feelings. I meditate, I reflect, I know myself, I'm calm, and I've seen clearly that there is no benefit to me sharing my feelings with almost anyone. Women think they want men to "open up", but they really don't. We don't work that way. The best thing for men is when men don't mention feelings at all and just do an activity together in silence and enjoy being men. I drove 45 minutes to rock climb with one male friend in my passenger seat and we barely said a word the whole way and we both loved it.
@@zeno2501 They want you to cry, whether you want/need to or not.
Great podcast with George, love it! He's informed me about multiple forms of ways of how males are behind whether it be educational progress in school, statistics on S.A., and how rape is not a crime in the UK since the definition is one who penetrates, so it's gender specific.
Thanks, George, Thanks, Chris.
As a mother of 3 Good Men and a grandmother married to a Good man . We stand with boys and men’s mental health 🙏🤝
I suffered with a severe episode of depression for about 10 years. The general attitude of society towards suffering men is "take your pills and get back to work". The only thing that actually worked was keeping my life as low stress as possible for extended time and separating myself mentally from society.
I think fathers should have access to paternity tests if they want.
59:27 I'd say Custody Rights is a misnomer. It should be more about the child's right to be with each parent.
Let's be honest. The destruction of men's spaces and this need to always be involved is abusive.
If it was reversed, it would be seen as such, and as men, we've got to start growing a spine and put an end to these double standards.
One of the big differences between male and female spaces is that in female spaces there is currency in being a victim and also in virtual signalling support for this victim. In mail spaces you're expected to sort it out. Advice can be given but you are expected to sort it out yourself. There is no currency in being a victim and there is no currency in virtual signalling support. The only demographic that you can be reasonably sure got their job on merit is white men. Every other demographic could be a tick box hiring. If you are a young white male entering the workplace sat in an interview room waiting for your turn and in the room is a white woman a black woman and a black man you know you are at the bottom of the list even if you are the best. So the question is why would the white especially working class man even bother trying.
"consenting to sex is not consenting to parenthood". I can agree with the sentiment of that, definitely. But if people are having unprotected sex and the man doesn't even try to pull out.... I mean, come on... pregnancy happens one way. If you didn't want parenthood then... I don't know, maybe try taking any precautions at all?
True, but no birth control is 100% effective. I think the pill is around 93% allowing for some error and condoms are about 87%.
Agreed, although could one say the same thing about the women in the same case?
Yes, like umm not having sex, a duhhhhh
Yeah, child support laws could be improved but both men and women are responsible (or should I say irresponsible) for creating an out-of-wedlock child.
I agree.
1:25:00 On circumcision: That is because your own view of men's rights on the Right is very limited and only based on popular voices. Talk to a Paul Elam, TL;DR, or the HoneyBadger Radio, and they will tell you all about it. You really have to invite a men's rights advocate like the ones I mentioned before. Because the popular voices you see and hear aren't dealing with the actual advocacy.
What people forget about circumcision is that it is genital mutilation. However, the Feminists have increased the perception of FGM as more severe than MGM such as circumcision.
The worst part is that Feminist will argue that it doesn't hurt men that much and that it is actually benefitial. (Which it is NOT) So, for example, there are 4 levels of genital mutilation;
Level 1 is the most severe, where level 4 is the least. Level 1 is removing the clitoris for women, and removing the skin of the penis for a man. Level 4 is tattoos or piercings. Circumcision is level 2. FGM is usually either removing extras of the labia or sewing the vagina nearly closed.
As you've said in this podcast, most FGM is done by old women and has its roots in traditialst and tribalist rites of passage. For men, circumcision is just 1 thing people know about. They don't know about the stripping off the skin, the removing of foreskin, the splitting of the penis and other forms.
As a men's rights advocate, it is nearly illegal to know about these forms of MGM. As soon as you mention the other forms, people will gaslight you into thinking that doesn't happen, or that it's rare. Or, as you pointed out once again, that it's men doing on other men.
All forms up until level 3 is illegal. Women do get labia surgery, they do get piercings, they do transform into a makeshift penis. This is all level 4 stuff.