As a local I can confirm that absolutely no locals ever use the strip for commuting. The exact opposite, we try to avoid it at any and all cost. Shut it down, shut it down forever! And no, locals do not live in the casinos, and no we do not all work in casinos.
What he said. I had a contract with MGM a few years back (upgraded their TV's) and we went before the strip for everything, there's big driveways hidden from public that casino workers use to get in and out fast, taxis also avoid driving on strip if they can help it.
Hey Man, They Released This Cap Months Ago And You Still Haven't Seen It? Edit: Hey Man, They Released This Cap Months Ago And You Still Haven't Seen It? What A Shame
The strip being shut being bad for commuters was a weird point, no commuter uses the strip on a daily basis and locals generally avoid it. However if we lose Spa as a result that's just madness, history aside, its one of the best tracks on the planet and is always eventful.
@@eriklarson9137 Huh? What does that have to do with anything whatsoever? To answer your question, yes I have, but does changing one’s own oil give them some sort of hidden qualification? Help me to understand what you’re getting at.
I'm born and raised in Vegas. Live here currently. Everyone I've talked to is super stoked about it. Enthusiast or not. Shutting down the strip and those surrounding areas don't really affect much as far as local commutes. We just went through a strip shutdown for the NFL draft
I also live here, and I work at a casino that's inside the proposed track. I'm curious how 30,000+ employees are going to come in and out of the track daily to come to work.
@@NYCBostero true- from what ive seen the logistic teams at these events handle crowds pretty good. it was like 400,000 at Austin and despite the crowd, moved around pretty alright
The strip is shut down constantly. They close it for NASCAR events, New Years Eve and other special events. Most locals don't even use the strip and avoid it at all costs. Even those that work at the casinos on the strip use side streets to get to the parking garages and I'm sure they will have shuttles for their employees during this event. I'm super excited to see F1 back in Las Vegas.
As it's been recently announced, Sochi will be taken out with no apparent replacement for the Russian GP, due to the current situation in Ukraine. Instead, they're going to be hosting the Las Vegas GP, meaning no current track will be cut out from the calendar. :)
The problem still remains: if we didn't have the Ukraine war, Russia would still be in the calendar and we'll be fighting (ok, not we, but the organizers) to see which track loses F1. And it's going to keep happening. NY mayor already said they want a NY GP, many old circuits like Monaco or Hockenheim were very vocal about the insane costs FIA and Liberty asks them to hold F1 races, and those costs exist solely because oil-backed countries in the Middle East pushed millions down Liberty's throat for 10 year long contracts, so if you want to be in the calendar, you need to pay. In the other hand, Liberty put money out of their pocket to organize Miami and Vegas GP, which bring more American fans yes yes, but I'm not sure they bring the "right" kind of fans. I want to see Sepang, Hockenheim, Turkey again in F1, but sincerely I understand them, screw Liberty Media.
As a Vegas resident, we’re already used to the strip getting closed down for New Years every year. They also just did it for the NFL draft. It’s not a big deal…
Yeah no one really commutes on the strip, unless maybe you work on the strip, but even then every parking garage I've seen can still be accessed from off the strip.
This was my exact thought the strip is for tourism. Except no one in their right mind would plan a Vegas trip directly on the strip during this event. This is a non issue.
@@LauraIsOverstimulated that’s a good question. Based on how they’ve handled events in the past I’d say the track will not block the streets 100% of the time. The cars won’t be racing 24/7, a fork lift can easily move some barricades to allow access whenever the cars are not racing
I can see him abandoning all of donut media, and running off into the wilderness to sing songs to himself by a camp fire with his trusty steed by his side haha
as a local in Las Vegas, I think it's safe to say that we dont have huge impact mentally on what happens at the strip due to events. cuz we never go on the strip. its such a huge tourist place that we stay away from. so having an F1 race at the strip is a great idea because that's where our economy comes from. and we're also used to the crazy events that happened there.
I'm not a local, but even I know this. There are ways for tourists and employees to get around on the strip without driving and locals don't go to the strip. I think Nolan's take on the casino's stance is also completely opposite of reality. Casinos will welcome the influx of guests and the premiums strip facing rooms will command that weekend. Also, very few casinos' parking is on the strip side so they aren't going to care about the driveways being blocked. Vegas is uniquely suited to host thousands of people in a very condensed space, the airport is very close to the strip, and flights are generally on the less expensive side.
I think the issue is with every resident and business that lays inside the track, no just the strip. I have never had the pleasure of going to Las Vegas, nor do I know where the touristy areas start/stop. But I think we can say with almost 100% certainty that there will be an impact on locals due to the road closures, especially given the size of the track. I honestly thought the main issue with this video is the pretense that the Las Vegas GP HAS to replace another GP, there are currently 22 (including the loss of the Russian GP) races I believe, with a cap of 25 races, so they very well could just add another. Liberty Media would also obviously increase the budget cap to accommodate for the additional track I feel
@@chriscringe7506 The only thing in the infield are the casinos from Planet Hollywood to The Plazzo. Your comment made me realize I didn't *really* know where the track was going so I looked it up. From Harmon Ave to Sands Ave and Las Vegas Blvd to Koval Ln. and Las Vegas Blvd. already has walking overpasses. I don't think it is possible to have a less impacted city for a street course. So it is more likely 100% certain that it will not impact locals, except hotel employees, as the local in this thread stated. I stand by my statement that Las Vegas is uniquely suited to host a race (or any event attracting tens of thousands of people). Making an exciting race out of the grid layout streets is a valid argument though. Your point about the video's main focus being the replacement of another race is also very valid; they would obviously increase the budget cap to accommodate an additional race.
Great video overall, as always. The argument for keeping France was weak. France is the easiest one to cut, among the ones you listed. Monaco and Spa are both cornerstone races. Austria has Red Bull as you said. It comes down to Mexico or France and Mexico has been a better event. I'd cut Miami if I had to choose. I think it's cheesy and won't stand the test of time.
@@chiqs_f1 yeah Paul Ricard is overall one of the more boring tracks in my opinion. Likely my least favorite in the current calendar when playing the games to race on.
That Camo hat spot had me feeling like a country boy walking out onto his own ranch 😂🔥 That aside, to see Formula One making a comeback to South Africa would be really cool. Kyalami was saved from demolition a few years ago, and with it having hosted F1 before, coming back would be a good move for both our country and the sport.
Las Vegas Blvd (the Strip) may be the most known road, but it is not the “main” road. Locals would rather take any other street than LVB. Even locals working at the Strip casinos don’t use it because the employee access points are off of smaller roads behind the properties. Those access roads will have to be used by locals and tourists during the event, so that could be a little added headache. But it’s the hosting casinos looking for the revenue being brought by tourists who are making that decision to limit tourist access to the boulevard. The strip gets shut down for special events increasingly regularly for things like New Year’s Eve and marathons. This could be the biggest endeavor the city has put on due to the set up/tear down time, but it won’t feel out of the ordinary.
Absolutely agreed. Most people dont realize that LV BLVD is really it's own facility for tourist migrations between hotels rather then a street used by anyone local. Like, the world's largest concourse escalator, lol.
I'm not sure why they can't postpone until after a few years and just build a dedicated circuit out at the SPEEDWAY.. that way we can separate motorsports from drunks on the strip
Don't worry about them shutting down the strip. It happens quite often for things like New Years Eve and the marathon. There are roads that run parallel to the strip for people to get to work at the casinos. It's really no trouble at all.
“Half it’s roads” is a stretch. And us locals don’t often travel on Las Vegas Blvd. It just needs to be seen how it will affect streets that have access to casinos for its employees that need get to the hotels.
I think it's a stretch, but you gotta remember that it's not just the streets that they're racing on that are gonna be closed. It's also all the streets inside the circuit loop that will be inaccessible.
The budget cap is based on a 21 race calendar, any extra race would allow more budget. But anyway there seems to be a gentlemen agreement between teams and F1 to not go over 23 races though a maximum 5 is possible.
I could see Russia being cut and replaced with Vegas IF it’s successful. Personally, I’d like to see any future US Race held at a track and not a street course 🤷🏾♂️
Im from France and am really pleased that everyone appreciates the old good circuits (over or as much) as the new city ones. Now we know that the French GP is over and Belgium GP has 1 year contract extension. Being French I prefer SPA over Paul Ricard because the SPA layout is really something.
As a European I’m totally fine with more us races, but they should be held on real race tracks and not just stupid fake street circuits. They could have gone to a track like Sebring Edit: I thought of Laguna Seca, but I mixed the names with Sebring
Yeah I’ve been saying the same thing. If F1 is going to put in this much money I’d rather it go to restoring tracks to fia grade 1 tracks to race at like Watkins glen
Like Sebring? A track famous for having rough, bumpy and changing surfaces. If they came in and ruined Sebring with a repave to make it compatible with F1 cars people would completely lose their shit.
@@lucaschung9284 even though I love the glen racing F1 there would be completely untenable. The local infrastructure just isn't up to snuff, and it's in the middle of upstate New York - not exactly glamorous or conducive to drawing a big crowd. It's such a shame that the people who live around Laguna Seca are so difficult to work with - I feel like a race there would draw way more people from the west coast and thus be much more economically viable.
I live in Vegas and most people I've talked to are excited for the race. Usually locals don't make their way down to strip unless its for work. When the strip gets shut down for events the city always has backup routes in place and casinos provide shuttles for those employees to be able to make it to and from work. Also the race gives everyone a chance to experience something new and interesting on the strip. Also, some portions of the roads they'll be racing on need to be fixed, so that's an added bonus for locals. I can't wait to get out there and watch these guys fly down las vegas blvd.
Honestly I would say that it would be cool to have Miami & Las Vegas every second year… Same for some other tracks. Just to make the circuit interesting and keep tracks within F1
Came here to say this. The only locals this would affect are those that work at any of the strip properties nearby. Most of them don't actually have to use LVB to get to and from work either.
Yep. Local officials have pondered having more events or times when the Strip is shut down to traffic because it may be a net positive. Also, the casinos will be the ones deciding where the grandstands go in the first place, they won't have to lower them to accommodate anything, the F1 guys don't know Vegas better than the people running the city.
The Miami GP is not technically a street race, although it’s designed like one. It was a purpose built track around Hard Rock Stadium, which is no where near water (several miles away).
@@GonFr14 Hahaha That fake water was pretty cheesy. Although I appreciate the effort to tip the hat to the legendary Monaco GP, the fact that they assembled pieces of wood and painted over it to resemble water, I thought wasn’t the best idea. From TV it looked very cool, but when you’re there in person, it’s a different story.
@@gamechangerslive I thought it looked okay in person, unless you walked right up to it. From the grandstands it was fine. A little weird seeing it just end like that with people standing behind it that should be under water... but still, not as bad as I imagined it was going to be when I saw the track layout originally. Miami was a surprisingly fun event, overall.
@@NotReallyMatt Totally agreed. For the future, they will have real water, but with such short time to get the track ready for the 2022 race, they couldn’t get the permits passed in time to implement the water.
Since the cancellation of the Russian Grand Prix, there is an open spot on the current F1 calendar without having to drop another track. Also, who knows when the next time they may race in China is since they keep moving that race back due to the pandemic so that could be at least a temporary spot to see if Vegas works or not.
I would like a race in Alaska The views are beautiful Nobody lives here Makes some cold temperatures so that the constructors have to battle the cold instead of heat I can guarantee that as long as it's not in the middle of Anchorage that the race will probably work
So nice seeing you guys covering F1. Indeed, there's a compromise when it comes to add circuits, but given that Russia is no longer an option, there's one more date to fill in. About Vegas, I'm sure the influx of fans - and the cash they will bring in - will justify a couple of days with traffic issues.
As a Vegas local and I know pretty much every Vegas local already avoids going to the strip to begin with. Let alone we are already used to it being shut down for new years and other events so road closures isn't a issue for us. The biggest issue that I can see for F1 is how shitty the roads are in Vegas. Tons of bumps, dips, cracks, pot holes, and uneven roads all over Vegas including the strip and around it. Daily driving my stiff 02 Wrx feeling everything and I'm always avoiding stuff all the time all thru out Vegas lol Other then that I know myself and other locals are excited for F1 to be in Vegas!
They've already cancelled the Russian Grand Prix in Sochi, so Vegas can take that spot on next year's calendar, correct? I also thought there's no way they'd close the strip, but then I realized every room along it would be sold out.
Ok, Russia is cancelled, what happen next year when another Middle East circuit or some cookie cutter street circuit (NY GP for example) is announced? Formula 1 got "lucky" with Russia now but it's not a real long time fix.
@@AlejandroLZuvic bruh don't bitch about it. Money maker circuit are also needed for the sports. At the end of the day F1 is still a business and they have to earn money. F1 can't live with hardcore fans alone, they also need the viewership of casual fans and it's also a good way to get new hardcore fans.
Anyone who thinks Vegas will get this right on their first try has not been around for “New F1 Tracks” in the USA before. Miami is back at drawing board already.
lol. Vegas is the entertainment capitol of the world. If anyone gets it right the first year, it will be here. It's not 1980 anymore, that race doesn't have anything to do with anything.
Great content! There have been plenty of 'tracks' that have been cut even though there were contractual agreements in place. F1 just had to pay the contract off. As far as an inconvenience to locals not being able to drive on the strip; it won't be. All of the service industry has public access roads in place to purposely avoid the congested traffic on the strip. Can't wait for this race! Just wish the date was announced.
I live in Vegas and work at the Bellagio and can't wait for this. it wont affect commune much i think i mean they had the draft on the strip and it was closed. Im just worried about how well the streets are cuz there is some dips and cracks
THIS. As a former resident and frequent visitor for family in Vegas, the roads are AWFUL. Re-paving? Sure. But heaven help those drivers if there's rain that weekend.
as a local in vegas who works on the strip, im not excited at all for the traffic and figuring out how im gonna get to work, but hell im excited to see this race
I've lived in Las Vegas all my life and I drive for a living, bypassing the strip is not a problem but closing some of the streets behind the casinos is going to be a traffic nightmare but also not something we aren't used to due to constant construction and events like New Years. Just glad I don't work at the casinos anymore. Still looking forward to this awesome event!
I am a race fan and I live in Las Vegas. I must say I was pretty excited about the idea of a street race here. Early commenters are absolutely right in saying we don't drive on the strip if we can help it. However, you mentioned residents getting to see the race. Oh yeah, I wanted to see that race. I thought that even with the dedicated grandstands and the suites with a view there would still be some sort of general admission for residents, or a spot you could get to and see part of the race. You know, someplace that wouldn't cost as much as my yearly income (retired). So far - no such thing. As a resident, this is for the tourists, and I'll have to watch on TV. So that might actually cause some unhappiness among residents, but we're also pretty used to it. I do wonder where they're going to corral the few thousand homeless who sleep in that area. Probably don't want to know.
"As much as I'd love to have a race that I could literally drive to, I don't want it, if it means losing the tracks that helped me get into the sport - in the first place". Well said and shared by millions of F1 fans around the world. We can't sell the soul of this beautiful sport at any price.
I don't know, this year we already ran on a track that was close to facilities that were bombed. I would say that the point of no return has been passed a while ago. IMHO
As someone who lives in vegas, I don't know anyone who uses the strip to commute to work. There's little back roads to employee parking if you work on the strip. Only time one finds themself on that street is if you willingly drive on it. The roads around are setup so if you live here you dont need to touch the strip. I'm excited to see this happen, might have to plan a good spot to watch it from.
Love donut media but you forgot to include Australia as a street circuit?!?! Albert Park is a public road for the entire year and manages to turn a heavy use public road into a f1 track we at least deserve a mention ther
That Long Beach layout you showed appears to be the original F1 layout used from 1975-1977. The current layout used by IndyCar and IMSA is quite a bit different, although still using many of the same streets. The fountain complex roundabout might be the most recognizable corner on the IndyCar calendar outside of the entire IMS oval.
@@sherlockmaverick what do you think you’re accomplishing with this comment? Everyone knows that the a black road will get hotter than ambient temperature, that doesn’t mean 75F is “unbearable” for F1, they do races all the time in weather like that.
@@lamakicker69 exactly this. The ashpalt of the Circuit de Catalunya reached 40°C (104°F) on the race weekend. The thing we should keep in mind is how far tyres and asphalt have come in those roughly 40 years.
That ad for the hat was just beautiful! There’s truly no end to the talent of James, this is the type of things that make me such a die hard Donut fan! Greetings from Costa Rica, I hope to meet James one day
There's another side to this as well that is rarely talked about and that is the survival of purpose built circuits. I'm from the UK and it is no secret that Silverstone, our most well known track and the host of the first ever F1 race, struggles financially. I have visited regularly throughout my life time, and even in the heydays of GT1, the crowd was nowhere near the size that it is for the F1 GP. Most other events have a fraction of the amount of spectators that F1 brings and even the next biggest events have significantly less fans in attendance. Then there's the cost of maintaining and updating an FIA grade 1 circuit. The revenue F1 generates is vital for these circuits survival and frankly it is lucky that the UK has such a strong motorsports community which brings such variety it is capable of generating consistent events nationwide which just isn't possible in some other countries, and still some circuits don't survive. RIP Rockingham 😞
They won't bring it back because the company that bought donut only cares about profits unfortunately. The clickbait copy and paste videos get more views than original series like wheelhouse.
"The Miami circuit is next to the water in an avenue that no one uses" Nah bro, they fooled you. Miami circuit is in a shitty landlocked ghetto right next a major highway interchange in North Miami-Dade County -- a dozen miles from the nearest beach.
As Vegas born and raised, and a car enthusiast in general, I'm super stoked about this. Yes, the overall road blockages hamper people who work at the casinos, but there's several events throughout the year that force the Strip to be closed down. Several construction projects have been put in place to accommodate the traffic, but it also means huge economic opportunities for the Vegas economy. Knowing November weather, there shouldn't be any heat issues at all for a night race. Most locals drive perpendicular through the Strip to go East or West of the city, but there's other options available. My main concern is how boring of a track it'd be. Edit: It's Neh•Vah•Dah btw, not Nev•Vaw•Daw. No local says it Nev•Vaw•Daw 💀
Love the F1 coverage, boys! My heart would literally break if they cut Monaco or Spa from the calendar. You make good points about the others. I say raise the budget max and add Vegas!!
It's cool to see that in 2023 none of these concerns are a big deal or have been solved. Also no local ever uses the most touristy spots and streets in their day-to-day.
Maybe a lottery system to determine tracks, plus just like with local government investing in the races here for Vegas; are other countries/cities doing the same for F1 (for the circuits that are on their final year of contract)?
@@Niranjan_Mavath who exactly is going to fund that? Building a new track from scratch is extremely expensive and retrofitting an existing track in order to qualify for FIA certification is only worth it if they’re able to get a solid return on that investment. Which a lot of them may have trouble doing if they are located far away from any tourist destinations. 7 of the races this season are on street circuits including Monaco. Good luck convincing the F1 fanbase, Ferrari, and the Italian fans to get rid of a historic track because it’s a street circuit.
F1 won’t cut any tracks from 2023. Rusia has already been cut from this year, which was supposed to be 23 races. They will just add 23rd race (Las Vegas). Problem solved.
Problem not solved: what's gonna happen when next year Liberty announces the NY GP (NY Mayor already mentioned they want on race) or some other Middle East country put oil dollars for a ten year contract? Do we wait for another war to break lose near Spa or Melbourne to cut them lose?
They won't because the company that bought them only cares about profits unfortunately. The clickbait copy and paste videos get more views than original series like wheelhouse.
As one who goes to Vegas once a year for edc that’s not the main road for locals so it’s really not a big deal and it wouldn’t be the first time they’ve Shut down roads for events. They do it every year and plus this is the closest event we will get as a real life forza horizon festival since insomniac is helping to host it. It’s gonna be sick!
The strip is more or a tourist attraction no local drives it as a daily commute. I can guarantee that we locals AVOID IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. In fact we use the freeways around the strip for the daily commute lol.
If you take into consideration that sochi (Russia) was already cut this year than las Vegas will eventually replace it next year leaving the calendar at 23 races. Mexico could be extended just for having Sergio Perez in redbull and there's also talks about doing a Gran Prix in Guadalajara (were Checo is from) or Cancún in the Riviera maya
I'd like to see F1 at Watkins Glen again, or Road America, but neither of those is in a major metro area. I'd love to see them (and Indycar) on the Roval at Charlotte Motor Speedway. That's a unique format and I think it would be interesting to see how those cars handle the transitions into and out of the high banks.
@@thebigphilbowski "Some work" is underselling it. It is by far the single gnarliest track in North America, with fast and sweeping turns all over the place and little runoff area to speak of for many of them. Those distinctive baby blue guardrails are literally less than a foot from the racing surface in places. Heck, Watkins Glen got cut from the F1 schedule in the first place because it was considered too dangerous even back in the 1970's!!! Francois Cevert - who was the protege of safety crusader and 3-time champ Jackie Stewart - lost his life there in 1973 because the curb on the left side of the road in the Esses is basically a step which launched his car into the guardrail.....which promptly *_split his body in half._* F1 will never return to Watkins Glen. That I am sure of. It is one of my favorite racing circuits in the world and it is a thrill to nail a lap there in a sim, but F1 at that track is a risky proposition. Even taking into account the safety advances in the cars and cockpits, the violent nature of the accidents there even in GT cars would probably put off F1's drivers, no matter how safe their lives and bodies would be. Ditto for Road America, whose kink has a concrete wall to its immediate left. Slamming that at full speed has been known to send even GT4 cars tumbling end over end. There was an IMSA Sportscar Challenge race where one car _literally _*_caught fire_* after pummeling that wall. Both of these circuits are excellent to whip a car around, but without erasing much of their character, I don't see F1 making a run at them. Ever. Sorry for the drawn-out response.
Mid-November could be cold. The night race is likely to see temperatures of 41-51f. That would make it the coldest F1 race in history. Traction could be compromised.
The prices for the Miami race were very high so I can't imagine what Vegas will end up costing fans. It's great that the US is getting more races but if a regular general admission ticket for Sunday ends up costing $800+, it's just not worth it
I live in South Florida and waited a year for that race. Was over hyped for this race! Until the price of tickets came out. Was not there because I can't pay $1000 for a ticket and bad seats. It's not fair to the actual fans. Vegas prices will be stupid high! I will just watch on TV.
Absolutly spot on! You could pay a couple thousand on a single F1 race weekend in vegas. But i bought my Indy 500 tickets, the full GMR grand prix weekend tickets, parking, Bronze badge for gate entry all days in may. All for $600.... and with that you can actually see the drivers, talk to them, get autographs, walk through the garage, see all the cars up close, pretty much go anywhere except on the track all for that price. Shit most indycar races will only set you back probably a couple hundred for everything you need for the weekend. $200-$400 range better racing - cheaper price F1 unfortunately is priced too high for most real fans to attend the races. It's more for the bourgeoisie. Celebrities, people with status, or enough money where spending thousands on the race won't effect them in the slightest
@@iveyfaganjr605 as a long term F1 fan that price is definitely not worth it for that track. It's average at best and pretty uninspired. They need proper race tracks not street circuits to make good F1 races
And those stars could care less about the sport and have no clue who the drivers are. And the TV reporters give these people TV time! I get F1 is an expensive sport but damn! Those Indy prices and the experience sound awesome!
@@iveyfaganjr605 it really is a truly amazing experience for the fans. i can't recommend it highly enough. The grand prix on the road course in may was the first indycar race i have ever attended and it was great experience all around. plus i will be at the indy 500 The facility's at the indy have been recently upgraded by Penske. There are huge full color screens everywhere so no matter where you are seated you can watch the action on nbc's peacock broadcast. Ample bathrooms in all areas. amazing facility all around. drivers that were hanging out in the garage: montoya, dixon, kanan, sato, o'ward, newgarden. veekay, pretty much every rookie. they stop for autographs and photos for about 5 to 10 minutes if they aren't going out in the car anytime soon when cars go back and forth to the garage the teams let you literally stand right next to the cars and take all the pictures you want as long as you are not in their direct path for the car they have a lot of small slits in the safety fencing around the spectator mounds that fans can use to take up close pictures everyone should experience it once all the fans make the place have a buzz with energy and excitement. when a good lap is put down you can hear all the cheers from the grandstands
Vegas local here. The Strip is shut down for multiple events during the year; NYE, Rock and Roll Marathon, NHL VGK Stanley Cup Parade, WNBA parade, NFL Draft. Granted those are typically one day events and not three days like F1 but the city functions with closures. The real issue is the insane ticket prices. As a local I want to be there near The Strip section but in all honestly, my F1 TV pass in the comfort of my home is much more appealing.
Living in Vegas I see a New Years eve/ July 4th type of strip shut down. Gonna be absolute hell for casino workers and tourist to get anywhere. That being said, it's going to be huge for Las Vegas to host a F1 event. With the Grand Prix in Russia gone it's a none starter on what slot Vegas will take.
@@mechmat12345 I did for years as a casino security director. So yeah. I've worked on the Strip. I know how the Strip and surrounding area will be effected.
love the idea of a dirt/heat/desert track but ai would have loved Laguna Seca over the money machine LasVegas . Maybe alternate more tracks each year or have a bonus race at LasVegas or something. Money and Entertainment influenced last year's race end. I don't want that to be the norm
Monaco always succeeds of getting into F1 calendar, and yet the race has been always boring as fuck. Hockenheim and Sepang consistently brought F1 with REAL race action, and yet they didn't last long due to money issue. "Succeed" doesn't always correlate to "Quality" or should I say "REAL quality" you fake F1 fanboy. Let me guess, you're probably a DTS fan.
Couple weird things wrong here. Miami is not a street circuit. It is very much so, a purpose built racetrack. f1 doesn't care about locals in the cities they race, they never ever have. Even more, the Vegas strip gets shut down multiple times a year. why is one weekend causing such an uproar? I think we'll lose Paul Ricard for sure though. It is as boring as Monaco, without the notoriety or driver challenge.
so this year we have 22 races with russia axed. the Concorde agreement signed by f1 and the 10 teams say that 24 races are the maximum until 2025. with china and qatar being added back next year one track is obliged to go. in my opinion it is the french gp. monaco is going to be on next year, the organisers say. Spa is probably staying as it is historic and would receive massive backlash if removed. red bull ring is obviously going to stay and Mexico pays a health amount of money anyway and is government funded. the french gp is probably not going to stay as we have not had a french gp for a while and the racing was only good because of strategy battle and a title fight. also infrastructure is not there either
I’m going to this Race 100%😎 When F1 announced they would be racing in Las Vegas I was so excited because I live in Las Vegas, it’s going to be my first live F1 Race
As a local I can confirm that absolutely no locals ever use the strip for commuting. The exact opposite, we try to avoid it at any and all cost. Shut it down, shut it down forever! And no, locals do not live in the casinos, and no we do not all work in casinos.
Exactly. The strip SUCKS to drive in
That's what I would have thought as well, the strip is a large carpark at the best of times.
Thank you 🙏🏽
As a local my self I rarely drive down the strip
What he said. I had a contract with MGM a few years back (upgraded their TV's) and we went before the strip for everything, there's big driveways hidden from public that casino workers use to get in and out fast, taxis also avoid driving on strip if they can help it.
That’s Camo Hat spot was fire James. Holy shit man. Multi faceted. There’s no end to this man’s talent.
@Jon Thor junk.
Hey Man, They Released This Cap Months Ago And You Still Haven't Seen It?
Edit: Hey Man, They Released This Cap Months Ago And You Still Haven't Seen It? What A Shame
@@desertninja._.galactic I’m asleep at the wheel man. What can I say?
that campervan looked like a museum piece
@@StLMikie What Do You Mean?
The strip being shut being bad for commuters was a weird point, no commuter uses the strip on a daily basis and locals generally avoid it.
However if we lose Spa as a result that's just madness, history aside, its one of the best tracks on the planet and is always eventful.
Spa has been extended by 1 year, happy but also said it's guaranteed for only 1 more year (currently)
Will never lose spa or Monaco unless they invade a neighboring country like Russia. Lol
There's no way they're going to get rid of an iconic track like Spa.
Spa is the best!! Love it.
I am absolutely loving all of this F1 coverage, Donut! You’re putting in the work to make F1 more popular and well known here in the States!
That's a shame. Have you ever changed your own oil?
Lol I think liberty media have been doing that
Tbh I enjoyed the off road stuff more. F1 to me is just a glorified Nascar but with more politics (as I've learned from Donut)
@@eriklarson9137 Huh? What does that have to do with anything whatsoever? To answer your question, yes I have, but does changing one’s own oil give them some sort of hidden qualification? Help me to understand what you’re getting at.
have you ever rotated your tires
I'm born and raised in Vegas. Live here currently. Everyone I've talked to is super stoked about it. Enthusiast or not. Shutting down the strip and those surrounding areas don't really affect much as far as local commutes. We just went through a strip shutdown for the NFL draft
I also live here, and I work at a casino that's inside the proposed track. I'm curious how 30,000+ employees are going to come in and out of the track daily to come to work.
They also shut down the strip for the rock and roll marathon. NBD
@@BillStrathearn yes, for 12 hours.
@@NYCBostero true- from what ive seen the logistic teams at these events handle crowds pretty good. it was like 400,000 at Austin and despite the crowd, moved around pretty alright
@@lady2sakura2006 from what I heard from my senior leadership, they’re building 3 bridges to take people inside. Still think it’s gonna be chaos lol
The strip is shut down constantly. They close it for NASCAR events, New Years Eve and other special events. Most locals don't even use the strip and avoid it at all costs. Even those that work at the casinos on the strip use side streets to get to the parking garages and I'm sure they will have shuttles for their employees during this event. I'm super excited to see F1 back in Las Vegas.
And big uptick in ride shares
As it's been recently announced, Sochi will be taken out with no apparent replacement for the Russian GP, due to the current situation in Ukraine.
Instead, they're going to be hosting the Las Vegas GP, meaning no current track will be cut out from the calendar. :)
Is it for this year only or until next year?
@@alexhndr most likely next year
@@alexhndr If you mean LV, they're starting from next year until 2025, three year contract....
Oh, well, that makes sense. Replacing it with an American race is a big ole slap in the face to Poutin(sic)
The problem still remains: if we didn't have the Ukraine war, Russia would still be in the calendar and we'll be fighting (ok, not we, but the organizers) to see which track loses F1. And it's going to keep happening. NY mayor already said they want a NY GP, many old circuits like Monaco or Hockenheim were very vocal about the insane costs FIA and Liberty asks them to hold F1 races, and those costs exist solely because oil-backed countries in the Middle East pushed millions down Liberty's throat for 10 year long contracts, so if you want to be in the calendar, you need to pay. In the other hand, Liberty put money out of their pocket to organize Miami and Vegas GP, which bring more American fans yes yes, but I'm not sure they bring the "right" kind of fans.
I want to see Sepang, Hockenheim, Turkey again in F1, but sincerely I understand them, screw Liberty Media.
As a Vegas resident, we’re already used to the strip getting closed down for New Years every year.
They also just did it for the NFL draft. It’s not a big deal…
Yeah no one really commutes on the strip, unless maybe you work on the strip, but even then every parking garage I've seen can still be accessed from off the strip.
I’m curious how anything inside of the circuit will be accessed during the race events
This was my exact thought the strip is for tourism. Except no one in their right mind would plan a Vegas trip directly on the strip during this event. This is a non issue.
@@LauraIsOverstimulated that’s a good question.
Based on how they’ve handled events in the past I’d say the track will not block the streets 100% of the time.
The cars won’t be racing 24/7, a fork lift can easily move some barricades to allow access whenever the cars are not racing
@@LauraIsOverstimulated bridges which Vegas already have and movable barricades. I see it alot when Indy comes to Detroit.
Oh my god I’m watching this video in November 2022, the day after Kevin Magnussen secured his first pole in F1. You predicted the future lol
starting 8th on the grid because of the sprint
Dude I just realized this video wasn’t released last week wtf! 😂
Me too😂 also a American driver income too I’m shook
@@joeysthilaire8876 there was already an american team why does a driver matter
@@rayxnlol just for the sport’s growth, I personally I’m not American so I’m not biased it was just an observation from his video
Good to see James living out his country western singer dream even if it’s just an ad.
The best ad might I say
I can see him abandoning all of donut media, and running off into the wilderness to sing songs to himself by a camp fire with his trusty steed by his side haha
I know just because where I live but I am not a hunter. I’m a car guy and that’s where almost all I do.
The only one I havent skipped.
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as a local in Las Vegas, I think it's safe to say that we dont have huge impact mentally on what happens at the strip due to events. cuz we never go on the strip. its such a huge tourist place that we stay away from. so having an F1 race at the strip is a great idea because that's where our economy comes from. and we're also used to the crazy events that happened there.
I'm not a local, but even I know this. There are ways for tourists and employees to get around on the strip without driving and locals don't go to the strip. I think Nolan's take on the casino's stance is also completely opposite of reality. Casinos will welcome the influx of guests and the premiums strip facing rooms will command that weekend. Also, very few casinos' parking is on the strip side so they aren't going to care about the driveways being blocked. Vegas is uniquely suited to host thousands of people in a very condensed space, the airport is very close to the strip, and flights are generally on the less expensive side.
well said
As a local I can confirm, I despise the strip.
I think the issue is with every resident and business that lays inside the track, no just the strip. I have never had the pleasure of going to Las Vegas, nor do I know where the touristy areas start/stop. But I think we can say with almost 100% certainty that there will be an impact on locals due to the road closures, especially given the size of the track. I honestly thought the main issue with this video is the pretense that the Las Vegas GP HAS to replace another GP, there are currently 22 (including the loss of the Russian GP) races I believe, with a cap of 25 races, so they very well could just add another. Liberty Media would also obviously increase the budget cap to accommodate for the additional track I feel
@@chriscringe7506 The only thing in the infield are the casinos from Planet Hollywood to The Plazzo. Your comment made me realize I didn't *really* know where the track was going so I looked it up. From Harmon Ave to Sands Ave and Las Vegas Blvd to Koval Ln. and Las Vegas Blvd. already has walking overpasses. I don't think it is possible to have a less impacted city for a street course. So it is more likely 100% certain that it will not impact locals, except hotel employees, as the local in this thread stated. I stand by my statement that Las Vegas is uniquely suited to host a race (or any event attracting tens of thousands of people). Making an exciting race out of the grid layout streets is a valid argument though. Your point about the video's main focus being the replacement of another race is also very valid; they would obviously increase the budget cap to accommodate an additional race.
Great video overall, as always.
The argument for keeping France was weak. France is the easiest one to cut, among the ones you listed. Monaco and Spa are both cornerstone races. Austria has Red Bull as you said. It comes down to Mexico or France and Mexico has been a better event.
I'd cut Miami if I had to choose. I think it's cheesy and won't stand the test of time.
Paul Ricard ended up being removed after all…
The Miami track is actually pretty good and would be better with some small tweaks. Much better than most street tracks.
@@chiqs_f1 yeah Paul Ricard is overall one of the more boring tracks in my opinion. Likely my least favorite in the current calendar when playing the games to race on.
That Camo hat spot had me feeling like a country boy walking out onto his own ranch 😂🔥
That aside, to see Formula One making a comeback to South Africa would be really cool. Kyalami was saved from demolition a few years ago, and with it having hosted F1 before, coming back would be a good move for both our country and the sport.
Yup. I bet F1 has worse than AEW.
As South Africans we are hopeful
Las Vegas Blvd (the Strip) may be the most known road, but it is not the “main” road. Locals would rather take any other street than LVB. Even locals working at the Strip casinos don’t use it because the employee access points are off of smaller roads behind the properties. Those access roads will have to be used by locals and tourists during the event, so that could be a little added headache. But it’s the hosting casinos looking for the revenue being brought by tourists who are making that decision to limit tourist access to the boulevard.
The strip gets shut down for special events increasingly regularly for things like New Year’s Eve and marathons. This could be the biggest endeavor the city has put on due to the set up/tear down time, but it won’t feel out of the ordinary.
Exactly this thanks fellow Vegas native for clarifying this
Absolutely agreed. Most people dont realize that LV BLVD is really it's own facility for tourist migrations between hotels rather then a street used by anyone local. Like, the world's largest concourse escalator, lol.
I'm not sure why they can't postpone until after a few years and just build a dedicated circuit out at the SPEEDWAY.. that way we can separate motorsports from drunks on the strip
"little" added headache? 1 lane closed on the strip causes chaos on the access roads. obviously you dont live here LOL
@@orunenf5533 there is a circuit course at LVMS over by the old bullring
Don't worry about them shutting down the strip. It happens quite often for things like New Years Eve and the marathon. There are roads that run parallel to the strip for people to get to work at the casinos. It's really no trouble at all.
“Half it’s roads” is a stretch. And us locals don’t often travel on Las Vegas Blvd. It just needs to be seen how it will affect streets that have access to casinos for its employees that need get to the hotels.
In Monaco the principality starts working for the GP months in advance and roads only close during racing hours.
I think it's a stretch, but you gotta remember that it's not just the streets that they're racing on that are gonna be closed. It's also all the streets inside the circuit loop that will be inaccessible.
It’s actually “half the roads around the strip” but since all non locals think the strip is all of Vegas that’s fair 😂
@@Itsmejeffwee exactly
I mean, even then, if they don't shut down dean Martin, frank Sinatra and twain, casino workers should be good.
Imagine KMag will start really from pole position and Noland predicted it.
Yeah right ...
@@bas7905 nope. Yu Takasaki wont allow it.
That's definitely impossible
HOLY SHIT HE FKIN PREDICTED IT
@@linusNa Awesome :D I forgot about this comment
Pole Sitter K Mag -- A joke when he said it. A reality now.
The budget cap is based on a 21 race calendar, any extra race would allow more budget. But anyway there seems to be a gentlemen agreement between teams and F1 to not go over 23 races though a maximum 5 is possible.
Bro people forgetting about Russia gp bro f1 won’t race there for a while , the Vegas gp is going to replace it will stay at 22
@@nateellington3678 sochi was already cut a few days ago so its 22 races this season, with the addition of LV its gonna be back to 23 again this year
@@vexatr what about Qatar they have a contract form 2023 for 10 years to hold a race so that is another circuit added to the packed schedule.
@@patrickkillen8569 I thought they said jeddah was a temporary circuit until qatar is built?
@@patrickkillen8569 Red Bull Ring i think would be permanently removed.
I could see Russia being cut and replaced with Vegas IF it’s successful.
Personally, I’d like to see any future US Race held at a track and not a street course 🤷🏾♂️
with all the shit happening, cutting russia seems plausible
There is undoubtedly a war clause in the contract. Russia will be dropped.
How fresh this video is, the creators should have known that. But yeah, Russia should be gone.
@@brtausi meanwhile racing next to air strikes in Jeddah was totally fine 🤔
if you watch any American road racing you would know america has a newer f1 capable track in texas
Im from France and am really pleased that everyone appreciates the old good circuits (over or as much) as the new city ones.
Now we know that the French GP is over and Belgium GP has 1 year contract extension. Being French I prefer SPA over Paul Ricard because the SPA layout is really something.
As a European I’m totally fine with more us races, but they should be held on real race tracks and not just stupid fake street circuits. They could have gone to a track like Sebring
Edit: I thought of Laguna Seca, but I mixed the names with Sebring
Yeah I’ve been saying the same thing. If F1 is going to put in this much money I’d rather it go to restoring tracks to fia grade 1 tracks to race at like Watkins glen
And please please god don't make it as 'americanified' as the miami race was. Talk about trying too hard
Like Sebring? A track famous for having rough, bumpy and changing surfaces. If they came in and ruined Sebring with a repave to make it compatible with F1 cars people would completely lose their shit.
@@lucaschung9284 even though I love the glen racing F1 there would be completely untenable. The local infrastructure just isn't up to snuff, and it's in the middle of upstate New York - not exactly glamorous or conducive to drawing a big crowd.
It's such a shame that the people who live around Laguna Seca are so difficult to work with - I feel like a race there would draw way more people from the west coast and thus be much more economically viable.
@@88Frank its Americans, i was not surprised lol
I live in Vegas and most people I've talked to are excited for the race. Usually locals don't make their way down to strip unless its for work. When the strip gets shut down for events the city always has backup routes in place and casinos provide shuttles for those employees to be able to make it to and from work. Also the race gives everyone a chance to experience something new and interesting on the strip. Also, some portions of the roads they'll be racing on need to be fixed, so that's an added bonus for locals. I can't wait to get out there and watch these guys fly down las vegas blvd.
u can already see some of those people flying, just not the legal kind
😂😂😂😂😂 I bet you feel differently about it now. Unless you aren't a local
Honestly I would say that it would be cool to have Miami & Las Vegas every second year…
Same for some other tracks. Just to make the circuit interesting and keep tracks within F1
Agreed, especially if this race is at the expense of Spa.
This is exactly what F1 should do, alternate between Vegas and Miami. It'll never happen, but that's what they should do.
I agree with this take and wish Indycar would adopt this strategy. Go to a venue every other year if you can’t make the schedule work every season.
I think it will have less impact on the locals than you realize. Most don't use the strip for travel, it's all side roads
And most cities have roadworks that last longer than this will.
Came here to say this. The only locals this would affect are those that work at any of the strip properties nearby. Most of them don't actually have to use LVB to get to and from work either.
Yep. Local officials have pondered having more events or times when the Strip is shut down to traffic because it may be a net positive. Also, the casinos will be the ones deciding where the grandstands go in the first place, they won't have to lower them to accommodate anything, the F1 guys don't know Vegas better than the people running the city.
Indeed. I’m guessing the Donut guys don’t know about Vegas just like they didn’t know about off roading before Hi v Low.
another person that doesnt live here that wont see the impact of longer term road closures on locals and even tourists.
"Pole sitter Kevin Magnussen" wow really making the wild predictions early here
I had to rewind to make sure that I heard him right. Clearly, he's not gonna be in a Haas if that happens. Lol
Yea sneaky one
@@zimzum7937 same hahahah
Imagine
im a bit shocked when u said “pole sitter k-mag..” like damn u just predict the future 💀
The Miami GP is not technically a street race, although it’s designed like one. It was a purpose built track around Hard Rock Stadium, which is no where near water (several miles away).
Didn't you see the "water" they put for the yacht club? It's clearly near a body of water.
@@GonFr14 Hahaha That fake water was pretty cheesy. Although I appreciate the effort to tip the hat to the legendary Monaco GP, the fact that they assembled pieces of wood and painted over it to resemble water, I thought wasn’t the best idea. From TV it looked very cool, but when you’re there in person, it’s a different story.
@@gamechangerslive I thought it looked okay in person, unless you walked right up to it. From the grandstands it was fine. A little weird seeing it just end like that with people standing behind it that should be under water... but still, not as bad as I imagined it was going to be when I saw the track layout originally. Miami was a surprisingly fun event, overall.
@@NotReallyMatt Totally agreed. For the future, they will have real water, but with such short time to get the track ready for the 2022 race, they couldn’t get the permits passed in time to implement the water.
hard rock guitar hotel is west of the i95 on stirling road, hella far from any type of water. that thing was fake
Since the cancellation of the Russian Grand Prix, there is an open spot on the current F1 calendar without having to drop another track. Also, who knows when the next time they may race in China is since they keep moving that race back due to the pandemic so that could be at least a temporary spot to see if Vegas works or not.
Fr I want to bring back the German GP at the ring
I think that North Korea 🇰🇵 should do a race!
Qatar is on calendar next year
I would like a race in Alaska
The views are beautiful
Nobody lives here
Makes some cold temperatures so that the constructors have to battle the cold instead of heat
I can guarantee that as long as it's not in the middle of Anchorage that the race will probably work
The cars would rip an ice tyre race with more of a cockpit cover
based
So nice seeing you guys covering F1. Indeed, there's a compromise when it comes to add circuits, but given that Russia is no longer an option, there's one more date to fill in. About Vegas, I'm sure the influx of fans - and the cash they will bring in - will justify a couple of days with traffic issues.
"Polesitter Kmag will have barely gotten up to speed by turn 1"
I see what u did right there!
As a Vegas local and I know pretty much every Vegas local already avoids going to the strip to begin with. Let alone we are already used to it being shut down for new years and other events so road closures isn't a issue for us.
The biggest issue that I can see for F1 is how shitty the roads are in Vegas. Tons of bumps, dips, cracks, pot holes, and uneven roads all over Vegas including the strip and around it. Daily driving my stiff 02 Wrx feeling everything and I'm always avoiding stuff all the time all thru out Vegas lol
Other then that I know myself and other locals are excited for F1 to be in Vegas!
I came back for the CAMO HAT ad.
They've already cancelled the Russian Grand Prix in Sochi, so Vegas can take that spot on next year's calendar, correct? I also thought there's no way they'd close the strip, but then I realized every room along it would be sold out.
i think that might be the selling point for the casinos, they will be sold out the whole week
Sold out at whatever they feel like charging, as well. It's the one business that's very open about flexible pricing for events
Ok, Russia is cancelled, what happen next year when another Middle East circuit or some cookie cutter street circuit (NY GP for example) is announced? Formula 1 got "lucky" with Russia now but it's not a real long time fix.
But there is Qatar gp in 2023 ,they have long contract ,they just took break in 2022 for fifa World cup,since they are hosting it
@@AlejandroLZuvic bruh don't bitch about it. Money maker circuit are also needed for the sports. At the end of the day F1 is still a business and they have to earn money. F1 can't live with hardcore fans alone, they also need the viewership of casual fans and it's also a good way to get new hardcore fans.
lmao KMag being a pole sitter did come true today xD (Sao Paulo'22)
Anyone who thinks Vegas will get this right on their first try has not been around for “New F1 Tracks” in the USA before. Miami is back at drawing board already.
well Cota in Texas is a new f1 track in America
I've only heard issues about turn 14 and 15 nothing more.
Good miami was boring. Just felt like a show track then a race track
We lost Dan Wheldon because Vegas couldn't get a track right the first time.
lol. Vegas is the entertainment capitol of the world. If anyone gets it right the first year, it will be here. It's not 1980 anymore, that race doesn't have anything to do with anything.
Great content! There have been plenty of 'tracks' that have been cut even though there were contractual agreements in place. F1 just had to pay the contract off. As far as an inconvenience to locals not being able to drive on the strip; it won't be. All of the service industry has public access roads in place to purposely avoid the congested traffic on the strip. Can't wait for this race! Just wish the date was announced.
K-mag on pole? Yes please! Love the guy, I'm really glad he is back in F1
Now he is on pole
This finally happened 😎
I live in Vegas and work at the Bellagio and can't wait for this. it wont affect commune much i think i mean they had the draft on the strip and it was closed. Im just worried about how well the streets are cuz there is some dips and cracks
I’m sure they’ll fix the roads up for the race. At least I hope they would 🤪
@@TillURide420 bro the streets have to be perfect and they are not especially the streets on the other side of the strip
@@josetradechavez7178 i mean they re-do monaco roads pretty often so that might also apply in vegas
f1 usually reasphalt the street tracks. they do it in monaco, and after the race they take it out. same in miami.
THIS. As a former resident and frequent visitor for family in Vegas, the roads are AWFUL. Re-paving? Sure. But heaven help those drivers if there's rain that weekend.
as a local in vegas who works on the strip, im not excited at all for the traffic and figuring out how im gonna get to work, but hell im excited to see this race
Logan sergeant be like ( ArE YoU SuRe AbOuT tHaT?)
6:20
When youtube shows No views on a donut video, you know you are early.
I've lived in Las Vegas all my life and I drive for a living, bypassing the strip is not a problem but closing some of the streets behind the casinos is going to be a traffic nightmare but also not something we aren't used to due to constant construction and events like New Years. Just glad I don't work at the casinos anymore. Still looking forward to this awesome event!
I am a race fan and I live in Las Vegas. I must say I was pretty excited about the idea of a street race here. Early commenters are absolutely right in saying we don't drive on the strip if we can help it. However, you mentioned residents getting to see the race. Oh yeah, I wanted to see that race. I thought that even with the dedicated grandstands and the suites with a view there would still be some sort of general admission for residents, or a spot you could get to and see part of the race. You know, someplace that wouldn't cost as much as my yearly income (retired). So far - no such thing. As a resident, this is for the tourists, and I'll have to watch on TV. So that might actually cause some unhappiness among residents, but we're also pretty used to it. I do wonder where they're going to corral the few thousand homeless who sleep in that area. Probably don't want to know.
Locals don’t drive the strip; also this is a great idea from a business perspective.
"As much as I'd love to have a race that I could literally drive to, I don't want it, if it means losing the tracks that helped me get into the sport - in the first place". Well said and shared by millions of F1 fans around the world. We can't sell the soul of this beautiful sport at any price.
I don't know, this year we already ran on a track that was close to facilities that were bombed. I would say that the point of no return has been passed a while ago.
IMHO
The soul was lost with the V10s. At this point it's whatever
As someone who lives in vegas, I don't know anyone who uses the strip to commute to work. There's little back roads to employee parking if you work on the strip. Only time one finds themself on that street is if you willingly drive on it. The roads around are setup so if you live here you dont need to touch the strip. I'm excited to see this happen, might have to plan a good spot to watch it from.
They were pretty pleasant to drive during quarantine tho
CAMOHAT
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Love donut media but you forgot to include Australia as a street circuit?!?! Albert Park is a public road for the entire year and manages to turn a heavy use public road into a f1 track we at least deserve a mention ther
Good point! It really feels like a purpose built track though imo even though it isn't. It's very well put together.
4:41 "pole sitter Kevin Magnussen" ... well this has officially become a fact at the Sao Paolo Grand Prix Quali 2022!
4:40 'Polesitter' K-Mag... Haha.
Good luck, Haas fans!
The chances
Amazing video thank you so much for including metric units!
Vegas GP might be one of the most beautiful night race for F1, can't wait to see!
I think donut media has genuinely made it big on Car media but in RUclips as a whole
"C. A. M. O. H. A. T." Might be my new fav song, right after the "Pop up, uo and down headlights". This is pure gold 💥💥💥
No love for Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow?
"Pole sitter Kevin Magnussen" aged like wine. 🍷
Maybe they should do like “showcase” races to allow teams to test mid-season and allow F1 to get away with a venue
love how history repeats itself, the miami track is also a parking lot track lol
4:44 Man, that was a prophecy right there. 😅
That Long Beach layout you showed appears to be the original F1 layout used from 1975-1977. The current layout used by IndyCar and IMSA is quite a bit different, although still using many of the same streets. The fountain complex roundabout might be the most recognizable corner on the IndyCar calendar outside of the entire IMS oval.
2:23
"Underprepared asphalt made for some unbearable temperatures"
The unbearable temps: 75 F / 24 C
Damn that nevada desert heat
F1 Tracks get much hotter than ambient weather
@@sherlockmaverick what do you think you’re accomplishing with this comment? Everyone knows that the a black road will get hotter than ambient temperature, that doesn’t mean 75F is “unbearable” for F1, they do races all the time in weather like that.
@@lamakicker69 exactly this. The ashpalt of the Circuit de Catalunya reached 40°C (104°F) on the race weekend. The thing we should keep in mind is how far tyres and asphalt have come in those roughly 40 years.
just 24??
@@xrete the race that literally just happened last weekend was 36 C…
4:42 he predicted the future
That ad for the hat was just beautiful! There’s truly no end to the talent of James, this is the type of things that make me such a die hard Donut fan! Greetings from Costa Rica, I hope to meet James one day
Linda bro, aqui estamos de fiebres con James y el squad 😎
There's another side to this as well that is rarely talked about and that is the survival of purpose built circuits.
I'm from the UK and it is no secret that Silverstone, our most well known track and the host of the first ever F1 race, struggles financially. I have visited regularly throughout my life time, and even in the heydays of GT1, the crowd was nowhere near the size that it is for the F1 GP. Most other events have a fraction of the amount of spectators that F1 brings and even the next biggest events have significantly less fans in attendance.
Then there's the cost of maintaining and updating an FIA grade 1 circuit.
The revenue F1 generates is vital for these circuits survival and frankly it is lucky that the UK has such a strong motorsports community which brings such variety it is capable of generating consistent events nationwide which just isn't possible in some other countries, and still some circuits don't survive. RIP Rockingham 😞
How has it been 2 months without a new wheelhouse episode? Miss this show man
They won't bring it back because the company that bought donut only cares about profits unfortunately.
The clickbait copy and paste videos get more views than original series like wheelhouse.
James was too good and too convincing in that commercial…
Man this reminds me of when F1 came to test driving through the Lincoln Tunnel. It was rad to see the Red Bull cars driving by the cliffs
Wait what?
@@thebigphilbowski yep, back when F1 was trying to have a race across from NYC in NJ.
4:43 he fkin called it 🎉
That's Camo hat spot was fire James! Holy shit man. multifaceted, there's no end to this man's talent! Haha
Can we take a moment to talk about making James into an actual music artist. Camo hat is another instant classic the man can do no wrong
06:00 I love how Nolan calls Monaco a Town haha well he is not wrong
When your favorite automotive channel on RUclips covers your favorite automotive topic week after week. What a treat. Keep it up guys!
"The Miami circuit is next to the water in an avenue that no one uses"
Nah bro, they fooled you. Miami circuit is in a shitty landlocked ghetto right next a major highway interchange in North Miami-Dade County -- a dozen miles from the nearest beach.
As Vegas born and raised, and a car enthusiast in general, I'm super stoked about this. Yes, the overall road blockages hamper people who work at the casinos, but there's several events throughout the year that force the Strip to be closed down. Several construction projects have been put in place to accommodate the traffic, but it also means huge economic opportunities for the Vegas economy. Knowing November weather, there shouldn't be any heat issues at all for a night race. Most locals drive perpendicular through the Strip to go East or West of the city, but there's other options available. My main concern is how boring of a track it'd be.
Edit: It's Neh•Vah•Dah btw, not Nev•Vaw•Daw. No local says it Nev•Vaw•Daw 💀
As a vegas local I’m freaking excited for f1 next year. Let’s do it!!!!!
Love the F1 coverage, boys! My heart would literally break if they cut Monaco or Spa from the calendar. You make good points about the others. I say raise the budget max and add Vegas!!
It's cool to see that in 2023 none of these concerns are a big deal or have been solved. Also no local ever uses the most touristy spots and streets in their day-to-day.
I think I agree with what I’ve heard from many people, F1 should switch between different street circuits each year.
No more street circuits, enough with that nonsense. I want to see F1 cars race on purpose built race tracks.
Maybe a lottery system to determine tracks, plus just like with local government investing in the races here for Vegas; are other countries/cities doing the same for F1 (for the circuits that are on their final year of contract)?
@@Niranjan_Mavath I think a good mix is important. My favorite track is Baku.
@@Niranjan_Mavath who exactly is going to fund that? Building a new track from scratch is extremely expensive and retrofitting an existing track in order to qualify for FIA certification is only worth it if they’re able to get a solid return on that investment. Which a lot of them may have trouble doing if they are located far away from any tourist destinations.
7 of the races this season are on street circuits including Monaco. Good luck convincing the F1 fanbase, Ferrari, and the Italian fans to get rid of a historic track because it’s a street circuit.
@@ThatLaloBoy you actually react to it, i don t even bother
F1 won’t cut any tracks from 2023. Rusia has already been cut from this year, which was supposed to be 23 races. They will just add 23rd race (Las Vegas). Problem solved.
Problem not solved: what's gonna happen when next year Liberty announces the NY GP (NY Mayor already mentioned they want on race) or some other Middle East country put oil dollars for a ten year contract? Do we wait for another war to break lose near Spa or Melbourne to cut them lose?
Always looking forward to Wheelhouse because I think it's my favorite series in this channel. Nolan is a great host. Bring back Wheelhouse
They won't because the company that bought them only cares about profits unfortunately.
The clickbait copy and paste videos get more views than original series like wheelhouse.
As one who goes to Vegas once a year for edc that’s not the main road for locals so it’s really not a big deal and it wouldn’t be the first time they’ve Shut down roads for events. They do it every year and plus this is the closest event we will get as a real life forza horizon festival since insomniac is helping to host it. It’s gonna be sick!
More F1 Content please! Make it a series every week. 😉
The strip is more or a tourist attraction no local drives it as a daily commute. I can guarantee that we locals AVOID IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. In fact we use the freeways around the strip for the daily commute lol.
If you take into consideration that sochi (Russia) was already cut this year than las Vegas will eventually replace it next year leaving the calendar at 23 races. Mexico could be extended just for having Sergio Perez in redbull and there's also talks about doing a Gran Prix in Guadalajara (were Checo is from) or Cancún in the Riviera maya
Oh dios, I would love a Grand Prix in Guadalajara - only because saying “Guadalajara” is so musical to my Aussie ears!
There are SO MANY magnificent US circuits that F1 could race on for more races, but obviously they only care about money so.....
I'd like to see F1 at Watkins Glen again, or Road America, but neither of those is in a major metro area. I'd love to see them (and Indycar) on the Roval at Charlotte Motor Speedway. That's a unique format and I think it would be interesting to see how those cars handle the transitions into and out of the high banks.
@@MrMcLovinMcLovin Also to further your point it's my understanding that Watkins Glen would need some work before it could host an F1 race again.
@@thebigphilbowski "Some work" is underselling it. It is by far the single gnarliest track in North America, with fast and sweeping turns all over the place and little runoff area to speak of for many of them. Those distinctive baby blue guardrails are literally less than a foot from the racing surface in places. Heck, Watkins Glen got cut from the F1 schedule in the first place because it was considered too dangerous even back in the 1970's!!! Francois Cevert - who was the protege of safety crusader and 3-time champ Jackie Stewart - lost his life there in 1973 because the curb on the left side of the road in the Esses is basically a step which launched his car into the guardrail.....which promptly *_split his body in half._*
F1 will never return to Watkins Glen. That I am sure of. It is one of my favorite racing circuits in the world and it is a thrill to nail a lap there in a sim, but F1 at that track is a risky proposition. Even taking into account the safety advances in the cars and cockpits, the violent nature of the accidents there even in GT cars would probably put off F1's drivers, no matter how safe their lives and bodies would be. Ditto for Road America, whose kink has a concrete wall to its immediate left. Slamming that at full speed has been known to send even GT4 cars tumbling end over end. There was an IMSA Sportscar Challenge race where one car _literally _*_caught fire_* after pummeling that wall.
Both of these circuits are excellent to whip a car around, but without erasing much of their character, I don't see F1 making a run at them. Ever. Sorry for the drawn-out response.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 don't apologize. It was very informative. Thank you for taking the time.
Mid-November could be cold. The night race is likely to see temperatures of 41-51f. That would make it the coldest F1 race in history. Traction could be compromised.
Good point hope they’ll prepare for that
The prices for the Miami race were very high so I can't imagine what Vegas will end up costing fans. It's great that the US is getting more races but if a regular general admission ticket for Sunday ends up costing $800+, it's just not worth it
I live in South Florida and waited a year for that race. Was over hyped for this race! Until the price of tickets came out. Was not there because I can't pay $1000 for a ticket and bad seats. It's not fair to the actual fans. Vegas prices will be stupid high! I will just watch on TV.
Absolutly spot on!
You could pay a couple thousand on a single F1 race weekend in vegas.
But i bought my Indy 500 tickets, the full GMR grand prix weekend tickets, parking, Bronze badge for gate entry all days in may.
All for $600.... and with that you can actually see the drivers, talk to them, get autographs, walk through the garage, see all the cars up close, pretty much go anywhere except on the track all for that price.
Shit most indycar races will only set you back probably a couple hundred for everything you need for the weekend.
$200-$400 range
better racing - cheaper price
F1 unfortunately is priced too high for most real fans to attend the races. It's more for the bourgeoisie. Celebrities, people with status, or enough money where spending thousands on the race won't effect them in the slightest
@@iveyfaganjr605 as a long term F1 fan that price is definitely not worth it for that track. It's average at best and pretty uninspired. They need proper race tracks not street circuits to make good F1 races
And those stars could care less about the sport and have no clue who the drivers are. And the TV reporters give these people TV time! I get F1 is an expensive sport but damn! Those Indy prices and the experience sound awesome!
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it really is a truly amazing experience for the fans. i can't recommend it highly enough.
The grand prix on the road course in may was the first indycar race i have ever attended and it was great experience all around. plus i will be at the indy 500 The facility's at the indy have been recently upgraded by Penske. There are huge full color screens everywhere so no matter where you are seated you can watch the action on nbc's peacock broadcast. Ample bathrooms in all areas. amazing facility all around.
drivers that were hanging out in the garage: montoya, dixon, kanan, sato, o'ward, newgarden. veekay, pretty much every rookie. they stop for autographs and photos for about 5 to 10 minutes if they aren't going out in the car anytime soon
when cars go back and forth to the garage the teams let you literally stand right next to the cars and take all the pictures you want as long as you are not in their direct path for the car
they have a lot of small slits in the safety fencing around the spectator mounds that fans can use to take up close pictures
everyone should experience it once all the fans make the place have a buzz with energy and excitement.
when a good lap is put down you can hear all the cheers from the grandstands
That Camo Hat add makes me want to turn country. Love it!
Can't wait to see F1 flying down the strip. Hope it all goes well.
Vegas local here. The Strip is shut down for multiple events during the year; NYE, Rock and Roll Marathon, NHL VGK Stanley Cup Parade, WNBA parade, NFL Draft. Granted those are typically one day events and not three days like F1 but the city functions with closures. The real issue is the insane ticket prices. As a local I want to be there near The Strip section but in all honestly, my F1 TV pass in the comfort of my home is much more appealing.
Living in Vegas I see a New Years eve/ July 4th type of strip shut down. Gonna be absolute hell for casino workers and tourist to get anywhere. That being said, it's going to be huge for Las Vegas to host a F1 event. With the Grand Prix in Russia gone it's a none starter on what slot Vegas will take.
i guess tourists will be there for the GP during that weekend
You don't work on the Strip, do you?
@@mechmat12345 I did for years as a casino security director. So yeah. I've worked on the Strip. I know how the Strip and surrounding area will be effected.
@@overtilt4049 Not all. Believe or not people just come to Vegas to have fun.
Amazing prediction about pole sitter Magnussen, Donut!
love the idea of a dirt/heat/desert track but ai would have loved Laguna Seca over the money machine LasVegas . Maybe alternate more tracks each year or have a bonus race at LasVegas or something.
Money and Entertainment influenced last year's race end. I don't want that to be the norm
Vegas taught me one thing, not to be skeptical of it’s ability to succeed. Truly, a beautiful thing to see.
You didn't attend the Caesars Palace GPs I presume.
@@billstuart8481 No and the dude is probably 20. Lol.
Monaco always succeeds of getting into F1 calendar, and yet the race has been always boring as fuck. Hockenheim and Sepang consistently brought F1 with REAL race action, and yet they didn't last long due to money issue. "Succeed" doesn't always correlate to "Quality" or should I say "REAL quality" you fake F1 fanboy. Let me guess, you're probably a DTS fan.
Fax, just look at the Golden Knights and the Raiders
@@yungpipecleaner-9103 👍👍
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One small nit to pick here: the Valencia Street Circuit was only in use between 2008 and 2012, years before Liberty Media became F1's "owner".
Couple weird things wrong here. Miami is not a street circuit. It is very much so, a purpose built racetrack. f1 doesn't care about locals in the cities they race, they never ever have. Even more, the Vegas strip gets shut down multiple times a year. why is one weekend causing such an uproar? I think we'll lose Paul Ricard for sure though. It is as boring as Monaco, without the notoriety or driver challenge.
Did they just predict a Kev Mag pole???
so this year we have 22 races with russia axed. the Concorde agreement signed by f1 and the 10 teams say that 24 races are the maximum until 2025. with china and qatar being added back next year one track is obliged to go. in my opinion it is the french gp. monaco is going to be on next year, the organisers say. Spa is probably staying as it is historic and would receive massive backlash if removed. red bull ring is obviously going to stay and Mexico pays a health amount of money anyway and is government funded. the french gp is probably not going to stay as we have not had a french gp for a while and the racing was only good because of strategy battle and a title fight. also infrastructure is not there either
FYI the strip is only used by tourist. Locals use Desert Inn, Paradise and Dean martin
I’m going to this Race 100%😎 When F1 announced they would be racing in Las Vegas I was so excited because I live in Las Vegas, it’s going to be my first live F1 Race
Ditto, everything you said.