Ole’s point on hall of fame that he was trying to make. Who made the most money in the business belongs in the hall of fame. Ole was making a few hundred grand a year in Georgia in the 70s. But meltzer is such a terrible interview he wouldn’t let the man talk
@@cashisrockhe asked those questions in hopes of Dave answering himself and realizing the absurdity of his opinions which he poses as strict facts HOF is imaginary and irrelevant Ole only caref about making money off the business not being celebrated
Flair is stil working because he needs the money ( his financial woes are well documented.) and Hogan got taken to the cleaners with this divorce from Linda . Like him or not Ole has a point here.
Hogan still had more money than Ole even after divorce. Some ppl just have wrestling in the blood and is hard for them to retire!! Is not just about making a living. Whats Ole's excuse for savage?? savage had alot of money slim jim deals ect was a great wrestler especially in 80s.why ole dont like savage??
His point was that they never made money you fucking idiot. Those two guys could not get taken to the cleaners if they didn’t make fucking money. So no he didn’t have a point. He wasn’t saying that they were bad at managing their money he said that they never made any money and that somehow he did. I’m sorry but never once has anybody in the history of fucking ever paid to see Ole Anderson on a national level. 100% fat. Not a single pay-per-view in the history of ever has had only Anderson in a singles match in the headline main event. Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair both have. Game over.
Ole is a comical genius. And he doesn’t even know it. He’s like a character out of the Simpsons. This interview had me roll’n. Hall of Fame or not. Ole was an integral part of the fan’s wrestling experience.
Ole's right about this... this video is Dave Meltzer interviewing Dave Meltzer. He needs to go back to broadcaster school, if he ever attended one, and learn how to conduct an interview.
Ole has earned the right to be condescending to a guy like Dave Meltzer.I mean Dave Meltzer come across in his interviews with people like Ole like he knows more than guys like Ole.
For anyone who thinks Ole is bitter, I found this in a Mike Mooneyham article: "Life, says Anderson, is what you make it. And right now he has no complaints. As he looks out from the second-floor keeping room of his nearly 9,000-square-foot home in Toccoa, Ga., directly across the South Carolina border, he sees 2,000 feet of shoreline, a portion of the 14 acres that he owns on Lake Hartwell, with a couple of mountains completing a beautiful picture in the distance."
Oles point is, when there was all the territories, it was better for everyone, there was still wrestling on national tv anyway, AND every town had wrestling and there was plenty of work for plenty of people. In that context, in a better world, hes saying ric flair was no good, because he had the same match every night. What hes saying is yeah ric flair was a success, but only in the eaten up by vince wwe world of today, where only a few people make a lot of money
Ole rocked in this, and he was easy to follow. Dave was to busy trying to be a know it all, in a business he was not in. Only thing that made Dave ever famous is that certain wrestlers would give him scoops over other dirt sheet writers. Dave is still a beach bum after all these years. Dave was not a worker, was not a booker, was not owner. He goes by what others have always told him. Dave was wishy washy over 20 years ago, and he still is today.
Meltzer did a TERRIBLE job with this interview -- he IS interviewing himself. Let's hear Anderson's opinion, not Meltzer, who we can hear any time. Meltzer is talking for like 80% of this "interview."
He spend the beginning of the interview trying to get Ole to talk, all Ole would do is say to read his book and be a condescending jerk. What else is Meltzer supposed to do? Just let there be dead air for 30 minutes? This is an audio show. There's only two guys in front of a microphone, if Ole isn't going to talk he has to talk himself. If Ole had any good sense he would have been actively promoting his book rather than act like a bully and just say read my book.
Michael Kelly In fairness, I didn't hear that, so I can't say if Meltzer is justified for other reasons, but it really isn't an interview. He is talking about his own opinion, which is what he is used to doing. Some times it is the fault of both guys that an interview turns bad, but I do still think talking extemporaneously is a strength of Meltzer, but interviewing is not.
I think most of the commentators on this aren't smart enough to comprehend where Ole is coming from, Ole isn't bitter, he is AWARE and he tell's it like it is from a highly intelligent perspective, Ole 75% of people are just dumb
He ole contradicts himself he says a great wrestler is someone who draws money mins after saying how terrible hogan was??...The guy who has draw the most for longest time.
short Hogan history Left NWA. for new WWE as the original Hulk Hogan character and had moderate success including feuding with Andre. Left WWE when McMahon refused to allow him to work on the Rocky Thunderlips movie. Joined AWA and Verne took Hogans "Hulk" persona and Thunderlips character and created the unbeatable Hulk Hogan character. Hogan learns there is more money in selling T-shirts & live appearances then in wrestling matches. Hogan returns to WWE and "sports entertainment" is born.
"Once you had national television..." There was national television in the 50's. Nobody violated the territories or stole all the talent or contracted the business.
In the 50s there was only a few national networks Dumont, CBS, NBC, and LATER ABC. There was also LOCAL stations in large metropolitan areas that were paid by promoters to run shows to sell their up coming local cards. That is why they both don't know what they are talking about comparing the 50's to the 70s national TV. It's apples to oranges with the inception of cable TV in the late 70's
Ole Anderson was success wrestler/booker/owner for 20+ yrs, one of the few who did all three and retired a millionaire. He successfully booked for 2 wrestling orgs at the same time and the monthly Onmi super shows most that were sell outs. He made stars of Tommy Rich, Buzz Sawyer, Stan Hanson & many others Regardless of Ole's demeanor the man has more pure knowledge on how to own, run and book successfully then a know it all who never made a dime doing any of them but thinks he can do it better
Dave Meltzer can voice his opinion and his research and what he learned, but Ole's experience as a Wrestling Booker, and a Performer speak for themselves. A lot of guys may say that they didn't care for Ole's attitude, or moods but they never say that Ole's dumb or 'he doesn't know what he's talking about" regarding Professional Wrestling. He's old school, and a stiff personality that clearly doesn't do Bull$#!% (Great Guy).
I know this is a very old interview but this is about the third time I've watched it. Dave Meltzer has never changed he never will. He lacks the intelligence of Ole Anderson and doesn't even realize it. Ole sat back for this whole interview and just let him embarrass himself and helped him out as well!! What a jerk
Absolutely Ole Anderson should be in the HOF. One of the best workers of all time and one of the greatest promos and all around one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. And Dave you should not have been jousting with Ole.
what kind of a question is that, "does he still have the money?" who cares? ric flair spent a lot and made ill fated investments. he had bad luck financially. this point doesn't negate the fact that flair made a ton of money. it doesn't matter if a wrestler is a good worker or anything else.....what matters is that the wrestler has the charisma and appeal that the audience craves. ole can say ric flair did the same match every night, but the feuds and matches he had with the likes of ricky the dragon steamboat and sting were legendary and some of the best matches ever performed. it was guys like ric flair that laid the foundation of professional wrestling and increased its popularity to such an extent that it became mainstream. the only problem i see is that when wrestling became mainstream and vince bought out everyone, it also became very corporate in nature and lost the unique character that it had when it was territories.
20 years later, Ole's viewpoint has stood the test of time, and Meltzer's was short-lived formulated on the periphery based on what was going at the time, and has been invalidated by father time.
My gosh this was great! Ole may be a bitter old man but hes very intelligent. Thing about Ole is that on many things he may be wrong, but he sincerely believes his opinions and what he's saying and will not back down from his beliefs. Ole was one of the best promos during his time, and all these years later, like him or not, the old fart is still entertaining when you give him a platform to relay the wrestling world according to Ole. Of course this interview was a long time ago when Ole still had at least part of his marbles...but i digress 😂
I gathered from this interview that Ole considers that there are many people on the planet(Some are wrestlers and others aren't wrestlers yet) who could be just as big stars as Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair were. Both of them were just ordinary before they got good storylines and gimmicks. They played the gimmick well to their credit, but they aren't the only ones who could've done it. I really like Flair, Savage, etc. but I also think that Ole has a point. He means to say that if the booking was good enough and the talent scouting was good enough, they could've MADE another Ric Flair. Ric Flair's not a superhuman in terms of athletic ability, speaking skills and charisma. But considering all three fields, maybe he is in the top 0.01 percent. That still is 750,000 people that are just as good or maybe even better. he was there at the right place and on the right time with the right folks. This viewpoint is totally accurate in a territorial system but on national TV, it doesn't work. if one star jumps ship, it takes its toll on the company. I'm sure Ole would have understood this had it been someone better than Meltzer explaining. i guess that meltzer himself didn't get was Ole was talking about, so how could he have explained him. RIP Ole!
Mr Meltzer is a good debater and I appreciate his love of the business. I watched Anderson at GCW in the early 80s Tony Atlas, Tommy Rich, the Free Birds, Ted DiaBiase all stand out to me along with Anderson and Pipers turns...it was amazing to watch. Anderson was a wrestling genius... Period. Paragraph.
exactly...I grew up on his creations..the guys you mentioned..to this day I miss those days...he hooked me right in. one of the most intelligent minds in the business ever
Some of these comments are ridiculous. Pay attention to what Ole says and when he says it. Ole is an older man. Older men like to tell stories to young people about how it was during their day. Notice how Ole leads Meltzer into asking a specific question and then proceeds to answer it in depth. Am I the only one here who's been around old people?
I have my issues with Dave, but he absolutely OWNED Ole in this segment of the interview. He just showed Ole is just a miserable, grumpy, mean, human being.
this argument gets surprisingly dense with the convoluted linguistic stuff. "it's all subjective!" "depends on what some people consider money" "define a great worker" "it's a very abstract thing". Ole and Dave would have made good literary theorists.
The perception of the sky as blue is a result of Rayleigh scattering, where shorter (blue) wavelengths of sunlight scatter more than longer (red) wavelengths. However, this perception is not absolute and varies under different conditions, demonstrating that the sky is not inherently blue. 1. **Atmospheric Conditions**: The sky changes color based on atmospheric conditions. For example, during sunrise and sunset, the sky appears red or orange due to the scattering of shorter wavelengths and the longer path of sunlight through the atmosphere. 2. **Pollution and Particulates**: In areas with heavy pollution, the sky can appear gray or brown. Particulate matter scatters light differently, leading to a sky color that diverges from the typical blue. 3. **Geographical Location and Altitude**: At higher altitudes, the sky can appear darker, sometimes even black, due to the thinner atmosphere and reduced scattering of light. In some geographical locations, the sky might consistently appear a different hue based on local atmospheric conditions. 4. **Color Perception Variability**: Human perception of color is subjective and influenced by various factors, including light intensity, surrounding colors, and individual differences in vision. What one person perceives as blue might not be the same for another. 5. **Scientific Perspective**: From a purely scientific standpoint, the sky itself has no color. The perception of color is an interaction between sunlight and the Earth's atmosphere, and thus the "color" of the sky is a transient effect rather than an intrinsic property. In summary, while the sky often appears blue due to Rayleigh scattering, numerous factors can alter its perceived color, supporting the argument that the sky is not inherently blue.
Ole hates Ric Flair's guts because Ric was THE draw along with Dusty Rhodes in the late 70's and 80's and He worked his ass off and made a ton of money
you're either blind or a Flair homer if you don't agree that he's wrestled THE EXACT SAME MATCH for more than 20 years - even Bruno Sammartino said that he and Stu Hart had a conversation stating that Flair is what we call "a routine guy" - i could call ALL of Flair's bumps, high spots AND SET-UP MOVES before he did them since i first saw him on television in the early 80's - i grew up with Bruno, Bob Backlund and Harley Race (who Flair got a TON of his moves, bumps etc. from) and all of their matches were uniquely different depending on who they wrestled - i've always felt that Ric's greatest years from 1977-1985, after that, i lost interest and felt he had the title WAY TOO LONG ...
I would prefer it if Dave didn't just keep talking all the time. Even if you have a valid argument just talking over Ole all the time doesn't make him look good
You don't put family after business! Pardon him for having some loyalty and supporting his kid! You and all these others hating on Ole here just aren't getting or don't want to get what he's saying!
Ole Anderson actually was a booker was wrestler he did it I'm sure Dave Meltzer does a lot of research but has never done it never been in the ring never was actually in the business Ole Anderson did it he lived it it was his life nothing can actually compare with having experience in the business so until he's actually done it he can't comment on shit im 100% with Ole Anderson here
From what I hear, Meltzer is not letting Ole get many words in! Ole got his money, and he is entitled to his opinion on wrestling! If he hates it now, cool, I do too! It was just a different time period for many, and they preferred it to today's stuff!
Meltzer did the interview. Ole is his guest. Ole is entitled to his opinion and worked with the many performers he despises. Ole would make a point about each person and Meltzer had to put in his two cents. Why ? No one cares about what Meltzer's opinion when he's not the subject being interviewed. A has been is a lot better than being an idol worshipping, never was or will be passing himself off as an expert on the subject. Ole states what he thought of performers, he has that right.
He did allow him to answer, but he kept asking him questions back like, was Hulk Hogan a big draw? & shit like that, he made it damn near impossible to interview him.
Meltzer is far too invested in being a know it all to have a conversation with Ole. When Ole was talking about paying talent. He was talking about controlling costs and paying talent based on the draw in order to make money. He was also attempting to tell Meltzer that when you lose a Flair, you take a guy and make a new star...which is what every smart mark claims to want and have no idea how to do it because they refuse to listen to guys who actually created stars...like Ole Anderson.
Ole said he doesn't care about the wrestling ability. He cares about the ability to draw fans (make money). He repeated it about half a dozen times. If you got that he only cares about wrestling ability from that, then you didn't hear what Ole said.
@@LimaKiloRomeo are you implying that ole was in the right just because he doesn't care? The whole thing was childish and pointless if that's what you're saying lol
"I did it and you wish you could." Classic Ole Anderson!
Meltzer is a Goof !
It’s True!
Meltzer tried so hard to sound more knowledgable and smarter than Ole.
SUCCINCT
“Are your interviewing me or are you interviewing yourself?” Sums it all up perfectly.
Ole reminds me of the guy from Europa the last battle.
He kept asking Dave questions. It wasn’t the interview portion of the conversation. Ole butthurt he isn’t in an imaginary hall of fame.
Ole’s point on hall of fame that he was trying to make. Who made the most money in the business belongs in the hall of fame. Ole was making a few hundred grand a year in Georgia in the 70s. But meltzer is such a terrible interview he wouldn’t let the man talk
@@cashisrockhe asked those questions in hopes of Dave answering himself and realizing the absurdity of his opinions which he poses as strict facts HOF is imaginary and irrelevant Ole only caref about making money off the business not being celebrated
“You’re almost as bad as me except I’m worth something.” 💀
Could easily listen to these two argue for hours
Flair is stil working because he needs the money ( his financial woes are well documented.) and Hogan got taken to the cleaners with this divorce from Linda . Like him or not Ole has a point here.
jaytennant no he doesn't hogan and Flair not having money isn't because they didn't generate a lot. The argument is how much was drawn not saved.
Why is Ole doing the shoot interview circuit? Charity? HOF eligibility? Clearly he needs the #MONEY.
Hogan still had more money than Ole even after divorce. Some ppl just have wrestling in the blood and is hard for them to retire!! Is not just about making a living.
Whats Ole's excuse for savage?? savage had alot of money slim jim deals ect was a great wrestler especially in 80s.why ole dont like savage??
His point was that they never made money you fucking idiot. Those two guys could not get taken to the cleaners if they didn’t make fucking money. So no he didn’t have a point. He wasn’t saying that they were bad at managing their money he said that they never made any money and that somehow he did. I’m sorry but never once has anybody in the history of fucking ever paid to see Ole Anderson on a national level. 100% fat. Not a single pay-per-view in the history of ever has had only Anderson in a singles match in the headline main event. Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair both have. Game over.
@@sinicalypse he was selling a book at the time.
After 25 minutes, "It's impossible to talk to you"
An he is right.
Dave.. You’ve met your match 😂😂. R.I.P Ole. Founding Horsemen 4 Life
Ole is a comical genius. And he doesn’t even know it. He’s like a character out of the Simpsons. This interview had me roll’n.
Hall of Fame or not. Ole was an integral part of the fan’s wrestling experience.
he knows
he knows it. you dont know he knows it proving hes a great worker
Ole's right about this... this video is Dave Meltzer interviewing Dave Meltzer. He needs to go back to broadcaster school, if he ever attended one, and learn how to conduct an interview.
His autism is real
He loves to express his opinion, and then he pretends it's a question.
i keep listening to this periodically
Same
what are your thoughts@@cashisrock
Only when the Algorithm decides it is time to hear Ole the Sage
@@tobiasfarragut292 haha. nah, i do a search, "ole meltzer"
Ole has earned the right to be condescending to a guy like Dave Meltzer.I mean Dave Meltzer come across in his interviews with people like Ole like he knows more than guys like Ole.
Nobody has earned the right to be condescending to anybody. He's just a bitter old jackass.
@@michaelkelly4613 some people earn the right to be condescended to (like Meltzer).
@@michaelkelly4613 meltzer if being condescending and passive aggressive as fuck
For anyone who thinks Ole is bitter, I found this in a Mike Mooneyham article: "Life, says Anderson, is what you make it. And right now he has no complaints. As he looks out from the second-floor keeping room of his nearly 9,000-square-foot home in Toccoa, Ga., directly across the South Carolina border, he sees 2,000 feet of shoreline, a portion of the 14 acres that he owns on Lake Hartwell, with a couple of mountains completing a beautiful picture in the distance."
Metzler loves his own voice.
Dave dancing around questions.....ole is too smart for this guy....ole deserves to be in the hall of fame...period...
they both made great points they just couldnt accept eachother
Ole “you’re not saying anything”.
Pretty much sums up Meltzer’s career.
Oles point is, when there was all the territories, it was better for everyone, there was still wrestling on national tv anyway, AND every town had wrestling and there was plenty of work for plenty of people. In that context, in a better world, hes saying ric flair was no good, because he had the same match every night. What hes saying is yeah ric flair was a success, but only in the eaten up by vince wwe world of today, where only a few people make a lot of money
3:12 Pure gold by Ole sums this entire interview up.
Meltzer is a mark.
Ole is such an asshole
“Hey, you’re the expert..” lmao ole is awesome
he just proves how much full of shit Dave is. i can't see how people takin Meltzer seriously.
I am 100% on Ole’s side. Meltzer sounds like the biggest mark ever
So Ric Flair wasn't a good worker or drew money? Cause thats what Ole is saying
@@MrAprilfoolsday agreed. Ole sounds bitter af. Dave kills him multiple times in this interview.
@@chriscothron3606 No he didn't. Meltzer is all over the place. Actually listen to what he's saying.
17 years later and Dave's gimmick is still fucked!
Did Meltzer hang up on Anderson at the end?
Ole rocked in this, and he was easy to follow. Dave was to busy trying to be a know it all, in a business he was not in. Only thing that made Dave ever famous is that certain wrestlers would give him scoops over other dirt sheet writers. Dave is still a beach bum after all these years. Dave was not a worker, was not a booker, was not owner. He goes by what others have always told him. Dave was wishy washy over 20 years ago, and he still is today.
He wrestled actually..
Ole is a BITCH.
@puroTV oh man! This must be found and put on RUclips 🤣
Meltzer did a TERRIBLE job with this interview -- he IS interviewing himself. Let's hear Anderson's opinion, not Meltzer, who we can hear any time. Meltzer is talking for like 80% of this "interview."
He spend the beginning of the interview trying to get Ole to talk, all Ole would do is say to read his book and be a condescending jerk. What else is Meltzer supposed to do? Just let there be dead air for 30 minutes? This is an audio show. There's only two guys in front of a microphone, if Ole isn't going to talk he has to talk himself. If Ole had any good sense he would have been actively promoting his book rather than act like a bully and just say read my book.
Michael Kelly In fairness, I didn't hear that, so I can't say if Meltzer is justified for other reasons, but it really isn't an interview. He is talking about his own opinion, which is what he is used to doing. Some times it is the fault of both guys that an interview turns bad, but I do still think talking extemporaneously is a strength of Meltzer, but interviewing is not.
Dave is an original smark
Why don’t you watch the video again and see how many questions Ole asked instead of answering. That’s why Dave is talking.
@@cashisrock I'm three minutes in, and Meltzer is constantly talking over him.
People who say Bret Hart's bitter should listen to Ole and see what "bitter" really sounds like.
Ole has everybody beat in the "bitter" department
I think most of the commentators on this aren't smart enough to comprehend where Ole is coming from, Ole isn't bitter, he is AWARE and he tell's it like it is from a highly intelligent perspective, Ole 75% of people are just dumb
well said
He ole contradicts himself he says a great wrestler is someone who draws money mins after saying how terrible hogan was??...The guy who has draw the most for longest time.
short Hogan history
Left NWA. for new WWE as the original Hulk Hogan character and had moderate success including feuding with Andre.
Left WWE when McMahon refused to allow him to work on the Rocky Thunderlips movie.
Joined AWA and Verne took Hogans "Hulk" persona and Thunderlips character and created the unbeatable Hulk Hogan character.
Hogan learns there is more money in selling T-shirts & live appearances then in wrestling matches.
Hogan returns to WWE and "sports entertainment" is born.
"I did it and you wish you could".
"Once you had national television..."
There was national television in the 50's. Nobody violated the territories or stole all the talent or contracted the business.
In the 50s there was only a few national networks Dumont, CBS, NBC, and LATER ABC. There was also LOCAL stations in large metropolitan areas that were paid by promoters to run shows to sell their up coming local cards. That is why they both don't know what they are talking about comparing the 50's to the 70s national TV. It's apples to oranges with the inception of cable TV in the late 70's
@@seancorbett9042 National TV is national TV. There could be national TV without killing the territories.
Great comments from both sides of the argument. It's a pleasure reading these. Thanks to all who have contributed.
Ole your just a grumpy old man that is clueless
Ole Anderson was success wrestler/booker/owner for 20+ yrs, one of the few who did all three and retired a millionaire. He successfully booked for 2 wrestling orgs at the same time and the monthly Onmi super shows most that were sell outs. He made stars of Tommy Rich, Buzz Sawyer, Stan Hanson & many others
Regardless of Ole's demeanor the man has more pure knowledge on how to own, run and book successfully then a know it all who never made a dime doing any of them but thinks he can do it better
OLE is rough around the edges but he knows what he's talking about and doesn't sugar coat it at all cuts right throw the bs and i respect him for that
loved Ole as a kid and enjoy listening to him now
Dick Murdoch should be in the Observer Hall of Fame.
Dave Meltzer can voice his opinion and his research and what he learned, but Ole's experience as a Wrestling Booker, and a Performer speak for themselves. A lot of guys may say that they didn't care for Ole's attitude, or moods but they never say that Ole's dumb or 'he doesn't know what he's talking about" regarding Professional Wrestling. He's old school, and a stiff personality that clearly doesn't do Bull$#!% (Great Guy).
I know this is a very old interview but this is about the third time I've watched it. Dave Meltzer has never changed he never will. He lacks the intelligence of Ole Anderson and doesn't even realize it. Ole sat back for this whole interview and just let him embarrass himself and helped him out as well!! What a jerk
Absolutely Ole Anderson should be in the HOF. One of the best workers of all time and one of the greatest promos and all around one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. And Dave you should not have been jousting with Ole.
what kind of a question is that, "does he still have the money?" who cares? ric flair spent a lot and made ill fated investments. he had bad luck financially. this point doesn't negate the fact that flair made a ton of money. it doesn't matter if a wrestler is a good worker or anything else.....what matters is that the wrestler has the charisma and appeal that the audience craves. ole can say ric flair did the same match every night, but the feuds and matches he had with the likes of ricky the dragon steamboat and sting were legendary and some of the best matches ever performed. it was guys like ric flair that laid the foundation of professional wrestling and increased its popularity to such an extent that it became mainstream. the only problem i see is that when wrestling became mainstream and vince bought out everyone, it also became very corporate in nature and lost the unique character that it had when it was territories.
20 years later, Ole's viewpoint has stood the test of time, and Meltzer's was short-lived formulated on the periphery based on what was going at the time, and has been invalidated by father time.
Dave's point that national TV = one company controlling all wrestling never made sense to me. Wasn't true in Japan either.
My gosh this was great! Ole may be a bitter old man but hes very intelligent. Thing about Ole is that on many things he may be wrong, but he sincerely believes his opinions and what he's saying and will not back down from his beliefs. Ole was one of the best promos during his time, and all these years later, like him or not, the old fart is still entertaining when you give him a platform to relay the wrestling world according to Ole. Of course this interview was a long time ago when Ole still had at least part of his marbles...but i digress 😂
"The business changed, so no one is successful." - Ole Anderson
`I did it and you wish you could`...with that, Ole wins this hands-down!!!
How do I find oles book
Amazon
Don’t argue with Ole. Lol
I'm voting Ole Anderson 2024
It will be a posthumous induction. :(
I gathered from this interview that Ole considers that there are many people on the planet(Some are wrestlers and others aren't wrestlers yet) who could be just as big stars as Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair were. Both of them were just ordinary before they got good storylines and gimmicks. They played the gimmick well to their credit, but they aren't the only ones who could've done it. I really like Flair, Savage, etc. but I also think that Ole has a point. He means to say that if the booking was good enough and the talent scouting was good enough, they could've MADE another Ric Flair. Ric Flair's not a superhuman in terms of athletic ability, speaking skills and charisma. But considering all three fields, maybe he is in the top 0.01 percent. That still is 750,000 people that are just as good or maybe even better. he was there at the right place and on the right time with the right folks. This viewpoint is totally accurate in a territorial system but on national TV, it doesn't work. if one star jumps ship, it takes its toll on the company. I'm sure Ole would have understood this had it been someone better than Meltzer explaining. i guess that meltzer himself didn't get was Ole was talking about, so how could he have explained him. RIP Ole!
WTF is with the music?
Does Dave get he's interviewing Ole. He should be ashamed of himself for not having the courage to let Ole talk.
I did it and you wish you could!
He was quoting Ole in the interview. Did you not listen to it?
Listen to Dave cut off Ole when we was proving Ole's point at 1:28. Meltzer is unbearable to listen to.
A comeback for everything should make him a HoFer
Ole didn't say that. He said Dusty drew money. He said Flair and Hogan drew money, but don't draw money today while they're still working.
Mr Meltzer is a good debater and I appreciate his love of the business.
I watched Anderson at GCW in the early 80s Tony Atlas, Tommy Rich, the Free Birds, Ted DiaBiase all stand out to me along with Anderson and Pipers turns...it was amazing to watch. Anderson was a wrestling genius... Period. Paragraph.
exactly...I grew up on his creations..the guys you mentioned..to this day I miss those days...he hooked me right in. one of the most intelligent minds in the business ever
Dave Meltzer you interview a guy and never let the guy talk
Some of these comments are ridiculous. Pay attention to what Ole says and when he says it. Ole is an older man. Older men like to tell stories to young people about how it was during their day. Notice how Ole leads Meltzer into asking a specific question and then proceeds to answer it in depth. Am I the only one here who's been around old
people?
Great soundbite at the 2:24 mark "Your not saying anything." Ole to Meltzer.
Ole is to old school for his own good. SHOCKMASTER!!!
I wish Ole and Dave would fight
Ole's mindset...
"Okay... I think I lost that argument, What can I argue about now?"
Yet i don't think (with the exception of Hogan only drawing in the WWF) he lost any arguments.
Not taking side one or the other, but it was hard to understand this interview with both of them talking at once. Mostly Meltzer talking.
The only guy I've ever heard stand up till Ole, only because he's on the phone so he can't punch him out 😄🇺🇸 Ole knows the business more than anyone.
i wish they would do an interview together every year
Ole is so argumentative. Cant have a conversation always looking for a fight.
I have my issues with Dave, but he absolutely OWNED Ole in this segment of the interview. He just showed Ole is just a miserable, grumpy, mean, human being.
Not at all, by this point Ole gave up trying with Dave because Dave is an idiot. Case and point 4:46
He sounds like a douche
LMFAO.He doesn't care about the HOF yet he keeps crying about it.Meltzer is our living historian and a true wrestling treasure.
Chris Stark Meltzer is a mark for the WWE nothing else
Gay
Nah he's been exposed as a fraud
Dave Meltzer has drawn millions off of the pro wrestling business.
I agree with Ole 100 percent.
It’s good to see someone not intimidated by Ole.
So it's good to be an incompetent goof?
Have you ever watched Japanese wrestling?
I’d love to hear Ole’s views of the business and who Meltzer sucks up to now
this argument gets surprisingly dense with the convoluted linguistic stuff.
"it's all subjective!" "depends on what some people consider money" "define a great worker" "it's a very abstract thing". Ole and Dave would have made good literary theorists.
This music sums up the chaos of this interview
In fairness to Meltzer, Ole is just being Ole.
Ole would argue that the sky isn't blue.
The perception of the sky as blue is a result of Rayleigh scattering, where shorter (blue) wavelengths of sunlight scatter more than longer (red) wavelengths. However, this perception is not absolute and varies under different conditions, demonstrating that the sky is not inherently blue.
1. **Atmospheric Conditions**: The sky changes color based on atmospheric conditions. For example, during sunrise and sunset, the sky appears red or orange due to the scattering of shorter wavelengths and the longer path of sunlight through the atmosphere.
2. **Pollution and Particulates**: In areas with heavy pollution, the sky can appear gray or brown. Particulate matter scatters light differently, leading to a sky color that diverges from the typical blue.
3. **Geographical Location and Altitude**: At higher altitudes, the sky can appear darker, sometimes even black, due to the thinner atmosphere and reduced scattering of light. In some geographical locations, the sky might consistently appear a different hue based on local atmospheric conditions.
4. **Color Perception Variability**: Human perception of color is subjective and influenced by various factors, including light intensity, surrounding colors, and individual differences in vision. What one person perceives as blue might not be the same for another.
5. **Scientific Perspective**: From a purely scientific standpoint, the sky itself has no color. The perception of color is an interaction between sunlight and the Earth's atmosphere, and thus the "color" of the sky is a transient effect rather than an intrinsic property.
In summary, while the sky often appears blue due to Rayleigh scattering, numerous factors can alter its perceived color, supporting the argument that the sky is not inherently blue.
Meltzer one of those guys with a permanent hard on for Japanese wrestlers.
Ole is a legend.
Halls of Fame mean ZERO
Ole hates Ric Flair's guts because Ric was THE draw along with Dusty Rhodes in the late 70's and 80's and He worked his ass off and made a ton of money
you're either blind or a Flair homer if you don't agree that he's wrestled THE EXACT SAME MATCH for more than 20 years - even Bruno Sammartino said that he and Stu Hart had a conversation stating that Flair is what we call "a routine guy" - i could call ALL of Flair's bumps, high spots AND SET-UP MOVES before he did them since i first saw him on television in the early 80's - i grew up with Bruno, Bob Backlund and Harley Race (who Flair got a TON of his moves, bumps etc. from) and all of their matches were uniquely different depending on who they wrestled - i've always felt that Ric's greatest years from 1977-1985, after that, i lost interest and felt he had the title WAY TOO LONG ...
Ole Anderson: Professional Wrestling's original Grumpy Old Man
I would like to see Ole go on Keepin real 100, him and disco would just have a blast 💥 lol
I would prefer it if Dave didn't just keep talking all the time. Even if you have a valid argument just talking over Ole all the time doesn't make him look good
The Kevin Nash of the 1980s lol
You don't put family after business! Pardon him for having some loyalty and supporting his kid! You and all these others hating on Ole here just aren't getting or don't want to get what he's saying!
It's like listening to a father and son who hate each other m
Ole Anderson actually was a booker was wrestler he did it I'm sure Dave Meltzer does a lot of research but has never done it never been in the ring never was actually in the business Ole Anderson did it he lived it it was his life nothing can actually compare with having experience in the business so until he's actually done it he can't comment on shit im 100% with Ole Anderson here
Ole Anderson: Sour grapes with a beard
From what I hear, Meltzer is not letting Ole get many words in! Ole got his money, and he is entitled to his opinion on wrestling! If he hates it now, cool, I do too! It was just a different time period for many, and they preferred it to today's stuff!
Ole's book is incredible, yet , he comes off , in the shoot, as ths most bitter worker ever.
Probably because he’s constantly getting cut off and bulldozed
Ole is the kind of person that will search for ANY reason to hate whatever or whoever he wants to hate.
Meltzer did the interview. Ole is his guest. Ole is entitled to his opinion and worked with the many performers he despises. Ole would make a point about each person and Meltzer had to put in his two cents. Why ? No one cares about what Meltzer's opinion when he's not the subject being interviewed. A has been is a lot better than being an idol worshipping, never was or will be passing himself off as an expert on the subject. Ole states what he thought of performers, he has that right.
Ole says it all, are You interviewing Me or Yourself, Meltzer goes stupid.
He did allow him to answer, but he kept asking him questions back like, was Hulk Hogan a big draw? & shit like that, he made it damn near impossible to interview him.
Dave Meltzer doesn't give Ollie much time to talk.
Meltzer is far too invested in being a know it all to have a conversation with Ole. When Ole was talking about paying talent. He was talking about controlling costs and paying talent based on the draw in order to make money. He was also attempting to tell Meltzer that when you lose a Flair, you take a guy and make a new star...which is what every smart mark claims to want and have no idea how to do it because they refuse to listen to guys who actually created stars...like Ole Anderson.
Meltzer is gay. I called him out at the cow palace once and he punked out. He doesnt know shit, and he ruined pro wrestling with his rag
This is titled wrongly. Dave Meltzer argues with the Ole Anderson, not the other way around.
Ole still getting heat after all these years god bless him
Ole Anderson-Not in the HOF, that's just not right...
Ole said he doesn't care about the wrestling ability. He cares about the ability to draw fans (make money). He repeated it about half a dozen times. If you got that he only cares about wrestling ability from that, then you didn't hear what Ole said.
for that logic why did he even bother turning up for this discussion? thats just pointless
@@FlechFisherYou can't be serious.
@@LimaKiloRomeo are you implying that ole was in the right just because he doesn't care? The whole thing was childish and pointless if that's what you're saying lol
O.M.G. Havent laughed this much in a loooong time! Meltzer was handed his ass in the worst way possible XD