If you guys want the samples, you can find most of these sounds online for free. But I might make some samples packs and loops pretty soon on my website (www.tonepusher.com). Join the mailing list if you want to stay tuned :) I LOOOVE old school drum machine sounds. There's something about them that I can't explain. Wether it's for layering or using the original sounds. There's soooo many iconic records that were created with them. Do you guys have favorites or maybe a drum machine that I forgot that I should've mentioned?!
@@Darkvolt-music You're right, but I think it has evolved also. Bands and producers like Gesaffelstein or Mick Gordon are heavily influenced by industrial imo.
I've been using samples from the Alesis HR-16 for my industrial metal project. It's the one Godflesh used on Streetcleaner and sounds super cold and relentless in such a cool way. Love the vibe all those old drum samples have, it's like an instant hit of atmospheric nostalgia direct into my brain. Brb, finding my mirror shades.
Yeah old school drum samples have something newer stuff doesn't have. Ngl I don't really like modern samples. I use them sometimes, but I often end up layering them with drum machines hehe Godflesh albums are classics! 🤘
I just got deja vu watching this. This video is going to be responsible for several people going down the rabbit hole to hunt for their sound! Awesome work!
Great stuff! The RY-30 was my first drum machine. I have bought and sold many other drum computers/machines over the years, but never could part from the Yamaha. I hardly every use it anymore, but it has a special place in my music history.
A bunch of the Luxa/Pan productions in the late 80's/90's (Basically anything Al J and Paul B touched) also used the Fairlight CMI (which resampled a lot of other machines but had that peculiar AD7524 8-bit/32khz grit). They bought one with the Altantic Ministry royalties and then used it for a lot of stuff. A lot of that early WaxTrax sound was basically them trying to figure out how to use the PageR sequencer on it. Paul said in an interview that they couldn't figure out how to get it to go to page 2 of a sequence, which is why all of RevCo's loops were 8 bars long!
@@Tonepusher If you have the chance, check out the "Industrial Accident: The Story of Wax Trax!" documentary. They do some deep dives into the weird history from that era and it's pretty awesome.
haha yeah you can find the original ones pretty much all over internet. However I'm currently working on a sample pack soon to be released :) Processed and mix ready, if that's interesting to you 🤷🏻♂️ 😊
Love the video. I’ve been researching this stuff for years. As for the R-50e, I still haven’t been able to find definitive proof Ministry used it. There’s a video floating around where Paul Barker is asked which drum machines they used and he said they made most all their drum sounds. Who knows.
yeah there's multiple theories about that online haha some says they made it, others that it's layered stuff and also some people say that they used untouched Fairlight sounds. ngl my guess is that early release was Fairlight sounds. But I might find the real answer pretty soon and make a video about it :)
CV used even older drum machines, and notably Puppy were influenced by early Portion Control which primarily used 303 and 606 for their proto harsh EBM
When I started my journey of Dark Electro back in 2005 I also discovered very soon that I really love the Roland R8. It sounded so good... and still does. Just binging a lot of your videos right now. Really cool content :) So much to learn and new things to enjoy. Keep it up!
I have a thing for the Alesis SR-16. It's all over the industrial tracks I make. The kick sounds for the rock kits are awesome. I believe that it's the drum machine the Godflesh used all over the Selfless, and Pure albums. Either that or they used an Alesis drum machine with the same drum sounds in it.
The Kawaii R50e just sounds great on any electronic track. Although it sounds like the drums Ministry used in the Wax Trax era, that's actually confidence. As others have mentioned, Al Jourgenson actually had a phenomenally expensive Fairlight CMI that was even used live until it finally broke down from so much abuse. A lot of the drum sounds were allegedly created during the period where Al worked with Adrian Sherwood on the Twitch album. That makes sense, as Sherwood was an early adopter of sampling.
Yeah, most of the time people are saying that the R50-e is the ''Wax Trax'' sound and I also read that it was the Fairlight. However the CMI Fairlight is a sampler, so it could be any drum machine loaded in that thing hehe
The sounds are so similar, but the R100 and R50E weren't released until two years after the Ministry recordings that it is sometimes claimed to have been used on. I guess it's just the subtle artifacts that low bit rate sampling leaves on drum sounds that make them sound similar.
Hey yeah I wouldn't be surprised either. Sounds pretty similar. And what a GOOD soundtrack! I often listen to it while working hehe The guitar/synth riff on ''the instinct'' is so good haha And that metal sound hehe classic 👌
yeah well he used a LOT of different gear. Also both machines share similar/same drumkits, but they do have different textures. I'd be curious to know how many different drum machines he used lol
That first beat with the r50 was great, Id love to see a tutorial on that! I never get the timing right with those kinds of beats for some reason. Great set of videos too, Ive watched them all.
True! such an iconic drum machine. Love the clap sounds on it hehe And probably the best looking one also. Behringer will release a clone of it. I'm curious to see if it'll sound as good.
I think many of those drums samples in those machines are very outdated for more actual EBM-Industrial, one important thing that told me Ben Watkins (Juno Reactor) and other professionals is: "Make your own samples". Is the only way nowdays, good drum sounds for those 80s-90s years but if you want really powerful and smashing Snare sounds you have to make them through layering and processing techniques, I do it with my Roland JV-2080 drums For example so those old machines are good as a source of drum layers to work with, those samples by itself alone aren't enough "punchy" to cut thorugh the mix of modern productions(also depends how extreme you want the sound!), same as with the Kick and some other drum sounds. In my case the only that gave me better results in my Industrial tracks is design my own samples!☢
This is awesome! Puppy usd to like to bang on shit and sample them for drums too. But what I really appreciate is the drum rhythms you provided on this one. Very cool!
Yeah I heard that(correct me if I'm wrong haha might be a urband legend!) Nivek Ogre is the one who recorded drums on the Beautiful People intro and that it was a very unique recording setup with multiple mics haha I think I'll google that 🤔 thanks man, yeah drum sounds like this are so inspiring that drum beats comes easily! hehe
2:05... well, that's just the same sound Roland used for the "power" kit on the SC-55, so it woulda been used in a ton of games back in the 90s. You could probably hear it in pretty much anything with midi for the soundtrack, if you had the right hardware.
tabarnak.. cas vas?., one of my fav, still is the korg m1 drums (for that sound especially), but then again at this point, i'd rather cook my own!!! cheers
It's true, the Korg M1 has GREAT drums. Love the ''gated'' snares hehe I listed the ones I use the most but yeah M1 is definitely up there. oui ça va bien en tabarnak!! haha
How did you set up the bass synth sound in the first examples? Is that a slightly FMed sine with distortion? Info would be appreciated Thank you for the content, just what I was searching for
hey, it's a combination of 2 layers. First layer is basically the FMFM waveform with sinefold distortion and and EQ assigned to an envelope after the distortion that is acting as a filter. Second layer is basic detuned sawtooth bass. Also the main trick is to assign the velocity to the filter so you can create the rhythm by writing your riff using the velocity. These are all presets from my pack ''Electronic body music'' by the way hehe You can check it out here: www.tonepusher.com/product-page/electronic-body-music
People talk about the R-50e a lot, haha. Years ago, I was googling around for what would be a good drum machine for industrial. I saw the R-100 mentioned multiple times. And I bought one. Then, I later found out that they were probably talking about the R-50e. Haha. Oh well. I think the R-100 is probably still pretty good for industrial. And it's kinda a beast physically. With a lot of I/o. You can also get ROM expansion boards for the R-100 that give you access to sounds from all 3 machines (Both R-50 models and R-100), and beyond.
I seriously doubt the sample will sound any closer to the real thing, specially in cases like the R8, that could hit like a bomb, or for the ry30, simply down to its filtering options... Ive got both, among others ;)
Good video! A couple comments, though. And I promise I'm not trying to knock/ bash you at all or be a dick, haha. When you were talking about the TR-606, you showed a TR-06 (modern digital Roland machine). Was that purposeful, or? Haha. Second - and warning, industrial snob comment incoming (heh). [I wouldn't say I'm like the biggest connoisseur or anything, but I know an alright amount, and this is just my opinion.] To me, 2/3 people on the thumbnail aren't ones I'd consider like - emblamatic (?) of industrial. Yes, NIN and Ministry have some legit industrial stuff, especially early on - but *so* much of their stuff is more just like rock/ metal. Which is probably a big reason why they're more popular. They're what non-industrial fans think of when they think "industrial," heh. And it's a little annoying when you hear people talk about "industrial," and they're really talking about "industrial rock" or "industrial metal" (which often aren't very "industrial" at all). Not talking about you, tbc - it's just something I've seen over time. Don't get me wrong, I like some "industrial rock/ metal," but I'm like, let's not get that confused with actual industrial 😆. I know I prefer my industrial to be made with almost all, or *all* electronic instruments. And I say this as someone who played guitar before I got into synths, etc. If you make it too guitar focused, it just becomes - not really industrial, imo. Anyway, just some thoughts I've had for a long time, and it makes sense to put them here, heh.
Hey thanks for the comment man. Damn, I know what a tr-606 is and yes It's a mistake. Too many hours of editing that's what happens 🤦🏻♂️ And I guess I agree with you on maybe half of it haha "Industrial" is a very broad term. It's like saying "metal"...There's many many different genre of Industrial. I mean Ministry is industrial metal so is Rammstein and they're VERY different...To me they're all industrial 🤷🏻♂️ And quite frankly I'm too old for that "labeling/gatekeeping" thing. haha I'm curious, who would you consider emblematic?
@@Tonepusher Yeah, it happens! No worries. I even thought it may have been an intentional gag, haha. And it's not really gatekeeping, imo; it's just about what fits the style and what doesn't. I like all the bands mentioned/think they're good, but I wouldn't consider Rammstein, for example, industrial - industrial metal definitely, but that's more a metal subgenre. It's annoying when I have, for example, even been looking at a list of *electro-industrial* artists/ bands, and too many of them end up basically just being rock/ metal acts, haha. Tbc, I also understand why you chose Trent Reznor and Al Jourgenson (sp.?) for the thumbnail - it makes sense to go with the popular people. And to reiterate, I'm not bashing/ knocking you, heh, or even criticizing you, or the video, or the thumbnail. These are just my thoughts, and it made sense to put them here. Who would I choose? That is a bit hard, admittedly. Ogre (or Ohgr?) would definitely stay [or Ogre and Cevin Key], and as for the others, maybe Bill Leeb [of Frontline Assembly], Chris Carter of TG, maybe a member or members from Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, etc. I was a big fan of Velvet Acid Christ for a long time (well, I'm still a fan of the music), so *potentially* even the main guy behind it. But again, your thumbnail choice wasn't actually a bad one, especially since Trent and Al have made some legit industrial tracks. These are just wider thoughts. And also again, good video! I'll have to get around to watching your other related ones.
It's samples I gathered over the years. I don't remember honestly. Most of them are from free sample banks online. I also have samples that friends sent me. 👌
no! they are unprocessed samples However the last one (RY30) are from Splice so they are processed. BUT having this said I would prefer using the original samples if it was to compose original material.
Idk if there's any plugin using these sounds but I made drum kits with them. You might be interested: www.tonepusher.com/product-page/90-s-industrial-drum-kits
@@Tonepusher not exactly in the same realm, but I recommend looking for any of the Alesis D-whatever rack units. I have the D4, and it’s great for big gated snares!
@@WVLFRVN cool I'll check that out for sure. I almost added the HR16 in my video but I felt like it wasn't used enough in industrial to mention it. But I do like Alesis stuff for sure.
hey! All the sounds (except the drums of course) were made using my preset packs. This one was the ''electronic body music'' one available here: www.tonepusher.com/product-page/electronic-body-music
If you guys want the samples, you can find most of these sounds online for free. But I might make some samples packs and loops pretty soon on my website (www.tonepusher.com). Join the mailing list if you want to stay tuned :)
I LOOOVE old school drum machine sounds. There's something about them that I can't explain. Wether it's for layering or using the original sounds. There's soooo many iconic records that were created with them. Do you guys have favorites or maybe a drum machine that I forgot that I should've mentioned?!
I shall keep an eye out. I would love you to do a sample pack. Your sample packs are incredible and really high quality
thanks man :)
90's industrial presets are on the way :) Sample packs are also on the list. 🤘🏻
@@Tonepusher This is exciting news I'm looking forward to them
If you're gonna actually make samples then I'm in. Just let us know when you do
@@luisbarrera5740 Subscribing to the mailing list would be the best to stay updated. But I'll probably also make YT videos with them :)
Nice to see someone giving industrial some attention 👍
yeah haha Industrial has so much depth and creativity, I'm happy that it resonates with people.🤘
@@Tonepusher saddly not like it used to, it’s time we bring it back to a wider audience.
@@Darkvolt-music You're right, but I think it has evolved also. Bands and producers like Gesaffelstein or Mick Gordon are heavily influenced by industrial imo.
For real dude!
The R8 was used in goldeneye. You can tell from those metal hits.
exactly!! 🎉 that soundtrack is phenomenal hehe listening to it right now while working ;)
ahhhh golden eye.
haha yeah! such a classic
I've been using samples from the Alesis HR-16 for my industrial metal project. It's the one Godflesh used on Streetcleaner and sounds super cold and relentless in such a cool way. Love the vibe all those old drum samples have, it's like an instant hit of atmospheric nostalgia direct into my brain. Brb, finding my mirror shades.
Yeah old school drum samples have something newer stuff doesn't have. Ngl I don't really like modern samples. I use them sometimes, but I often end up layering them with drum machines hehe
Godflesh albums are classics! 🤘
I just got deja vu watching this.
This video is going to be responsible for several people going down the rabbit hole to hunt for their sound!
Awesome work!
haha thanks man, I also went down the rabbit hole while making it lol
Great stuff! The RY-30 was my first drum machine. I have bought and sold many other drum computers/machines over the years, but never could part from the Yamaha. I hardly every use it anymore, but it has a special place in my music history.
haha nice! yeah there's some piece of equipment that we should never sell! The RY-30 is for sure in that category haha
I have an ry30 still and love it. Has a couple pretty good banks that have some nice power
A bunch of the Luxa/Pan productions in the late 80's/90's (Basically anything Al J and Paul B touched) also used the Fairlight CMI (which resampled a lot of other machines but had that peculiar AD7524 8-bit/32khz grit). They bought one with the Altantic Ministry royalties and then used it for a lot of stuff. A lot of that early WaxTrax sound was basically them trying to figure out how to use the PageR sequencer on it. Paul said in an interview that they couldn't figure out how to get it to go to page 2 of a sequence, which is why all of RevCo's loops were 8 bars long!
haha didn't know that! make sense 🤣 Very often, the best art, especially in music, comes from limitation. Just use what you have and be creative! 🤘
@@Tonepusher If you have the chance, check out the "Industrial Accident: The Story of Wax Trax!" documentary. They do some deep dives into the weird history from that era and it's pretty awesome.
Uploaded any EBM tracks to listen cuz your samples are mad sick! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
haha thanks man :)🤘
RX5 is my favorite with the RX5USB to add my own samples. It really is the best drum synth of the 80s.
great choice! wouldn't be my first though but it's in my top 10 👌🏻
Thanks for the overview! Now I know which samples to hunt from which machines :-)
haha yeah you can find the original ones pretty much all over internet. However I'm currently working on a sample pack soon to be released :) Processed and mix ready, if that's interesting to you 🤷🏻♂️ 😊
Love the video. I’ve been researching this stuff for years. As for the R-50e, I still haven’t been able to find definitive proof Ministry used it. There’s a video floating around where Paul Barker is asked which drum machines they used and he said they made most all their drum sounds. Who knows.
yeah there's multiple theories about that online haha some says they made it, others that it's layered stuff and also some people say that they used untouched Fairlight sounds.
ngl my guess is that early release was Fairlight sounds. But I might find the real answer pretty soon and make a video about it :)
Really great and informative video! Thank you for what youre doing, making industrial music much more accessible!
haha thanks man! I really enjoy making these videos. Not enough industrial and ebm on youtube! 🤘🏻
CV used even older drum machines, and notably Puppy were influenced by early Portion Control which primarily used 303 and 606 for their proto harsh EBM
When I started my journey of Dark Electro back in 2005 I also discovered very soon that I really love the Roland R8. It sounded so good... and still does. Just binging a lot of your videos right now. Really cool content :) So much to learn and new things to enjoy. Keep it up!
hey! yeah drum machines are a LOT of fun haha thanks man! 🤘
I have a thing for the Alesis SR-16. It's all over the industrial tracks I make. The kick sounds for the rock kits are awesome. I believe that it's the drum machine the Godflesh used all over the Selfless, and Pure albums. Either that or they used an Alesis drum machine with the same drum sounds in it.
yeah the SR-16 sounds great, love Godflesh drum sounds! I really like their 2017 release too
Oh man I use that one a lot too. The first Klack record was like a love letter to the SR and HR-16's.
If I recall correctly, Hocico used the Alesis early on
Some of these are perfect for my current album I'm gonna have to do some hunting.
haha yeah man! there's even more drumkits on them that are worth using too. I just shared my favorites.
The Kawaii R50e just sounds great on any electronic track. Although it sounds like the drums Ministry used in the Wax Trax era, that's actually confidence. As others have mentioned, Al Jourgenson actually had a phenomenally expensive Fairlight CMI that was even used live until it finally broke down from so much abuse. A lot of the drum sounds were allegedly created during the period where Al worked with Adrian Sherwood on the Twitch album. That makes sense, as Sherwood was an early adopter of sampling.
Yeah, most of the time people are saying that the R50-e is the ''Wax Trax'' sound and I also read that it was the Fairlight. However the CMI Fairlight is a sampler, so it could be any drum machine loaded in that thing hehe
The sounds are so similar, but the R100 and R50E weren't released until two years after the Ministry recordings that it is sometimes claimed to have been used on. I guess it's just the subtle artifacts that low bit rate sampling leaves on drum sounds that make them sound similar.
Wouldn't be surprised if the R-8 was extensively used on the Killer Instinct OST (for example Full-Bore).
Hey yeah I wouldn't be surprised either. Sounds pretty similar. And what a GOOD soundtrack! I often listen to it while working hehe The guitar/synth riff on ''the instinct'' is so good haha And that metal sound hehe classic 👌
I remember a interview with Trent that said he actually used a Roland r70
yeah well he used a LOT of different gear. Also both machines share similar/same drumkits, but they do have different textures. I'd be curious to know how many different drum machines he used lol
Yeah that was the downward spiral era
@@scullyhypnos6757 Cult album! But I actually prefer Pretty Hate Machine hehe It's like a perfect blend of Industrial and ''mainstream'' rock.
That first beat with the r50 was great, Id love to see a tutorial on that! I never get the timing right with those kinds of beats for some reason. Great set of videos too, Ive watched them all.
hey thanks man :) yeah I'll make some drum tutos pretty soon
Kawai R-series drum machines are def a must. Good call.
thanks man, love the sound of it 🤘🏻
Great sound examples! I would love to see a video of you showing us the drum sound or processing and mixing
That's definitely on the list 👌🏻
gnarly, this was very insightful, thx 4 the video again
hey! np 🤘🏻 drum machines ftw 💪🏻
I go with Street Fighter 2 since you wear that shirt and the snare in Guiles theme sounds a lot like that.
It's not what I had in mind BUT having this said it's a very good guess hehe Also Guiles Theme is my favorite video game song ever. SO good hehe
Good videos i love industrial🖤
hey thanks 🤘🏻
You forgot to mention the kick from the Kawai R100!!
Nice video, indeed! I use Alesis SR16 and samples from Oberheim DX.
Great choice! they're also classics
Wow I didn't know those drum machines
oohh a world of awesomeness is waiting for you haha
Nice content! Liked and subscribed.
hey thanks a lot 🙏
Goldeneye?
haha hell yeah exactly! iconic soundtrack!! I think I'll listen to it while working today haha
Maybe should of mentioned the DMX. I wasn't aware of most of these good video!
True! such an iconic drum machine. Love the clap sounds on it hehe And probably the best looking one also. Behringer will release a clone of it. I'm curious to see if it'll sound as good.
I think many of those drums samples in those machines are very outdated for more actual EBM-Industrial, one important thing that told me Ben Watkins (Juno Reactor) and other professionals is: "Make your own samples". Is the only way nowdays, good drum sounds for those 80s-90s years but if you want really powerful and smashing Snare sounds you have to make them through layering and processing techniques, I do it with my Roland JV-2080 drums For example so those old machines are good as a source of drum layers to work with, those samples by itself alone aren't enough "punchy" to cut thorugh the mix of modern productions(also depends how extreme you want the sound!), same as with the Kick and some other drum sounds. In my case the only that gave me better results in my Industrial tracks is design my own samples!☢
This is awesome! Puppy usd to like to bang on shit and sample them for drums too. But what I really appreciate is the drum rhythms you provided on this one. Very cool!
Yeah I heard that(correct me if I'm wrong haha might be a urband legend!) Nivek Ogre is the one who recorded drums on the Beautiful People intro and that it was a very unique recording setup with multiple mics haha I think I'll google that 🤔
thanks man, yeah drum sounds like this are so inspiring that drum beats comes easily! hehe
Never heard that myself but damn would it be cool if it is true! 🤘🏼
2:05... well, that's just the same sound Roland used for the "power" kit on the SC-55, so it woulda been used in a ton of games back in the 90s. You could probably hear it in pretty much anything with midi for the soundtrack, if you had the right hardware.
I have a Roland SC-55 and you're right. It sounds a bit different but It probably made of the same sample for sure.
Are you talking about DOOM? 🤔 Great bass synth sounds as always!
Doom was the Roland SC-55 but that's a good guess hehe 🤘🏻
tabarnak.. cas vas?., one of my fav, still is the korg m1 drums (for that sound especially), but then again at this point, i'd rather cook my own!!! cheers
It's true, the Korg M1 has GREAT drums. Love the ''gated'' snares hehe I listed the ones I use the most but yeah M1 is definitely up there.
oui ça va bien en tabarnak!! haha
How did you set up the bass synth sound in the first examples? Is that a slightly FMed sine with distortion? Info would be appreciated
Thank you for the content, just what I was searching for
hey, it's a combination of 2 layers. First layer is basically the FMFM waveform with sinefold distortion and and EQ assigned to an envelope after the distortion that is acting as a filter. Second layer is basic detuned sawtooth bass. Also the main trick is to assign the velocity to the filter so you can create the rhythm by writing your riff using the velocity.
These are all presets from my pack ''Electronic body music'' by the way hehe You can check it out here:
www.tonepusher.com/product-page/electronic-body-music
@@Tonepusher thank you :-)
What card do you use on the R8? I prefer the stock sounds of the R5 compared to the stock R8
I was gonna say if this guy doesn’t include the kawai r50e…..and then it was the first one!
haha!! 🥵 ...😁 I had to put it first.
People talk about the R-50e a lot, haha.
Years ago, I was googling around for what would be a good drum machine for industrial. I saw the R-100 mentioned multiple times. And I bought one.
Then, I later found out that they were probably talking about the R-50e. Haha. Oh well. I think the R-100 is probably still pretty good for industrial. And it's kinda a beast physically. With a lot of I/o.
You can also get ROM expansion boards for the R-100 that give you access to sounds from all 3 machines (Both R-50 models and R-100), and beyond.
Mortal Kombat or Killer Instinct
Idk about MK but Killer Instinct for sure! haha That opening track ❤ 'the instinct'
mmm quake
It's not the one I had in mind but for sure it was on Quake too! 🤘🏻 great soundtrack
Didn’t Trent Reznor do the music for quake?
Shotgun Messiah 'Violent New Breed'
Roland sounds like it's been used by Frank Klepaci. C&C :)
LOVE that soundtrack!
Great content !! Do you sell this drums samples on your website ?
no I do not, but I might make industrial/ebm loops and sample pretty soon with em
@@Tonepusher Nice ! Thanks for your answer
I need this drum samples pack)))
R8 = Mortal Kombat III
Star control 2!
Never played that one! Was it on PC?
jepp sounds very much SC2ish. Its a PC game but the ahead-its-time-techno-industrial songs were Amiga MOD files you can find on the web easily
Yes PC/Mac, but also ported to several consoles. I think they actually contacted the amiga mod community to get talent for the soundtrack.
I seriously doubt the sample will sound any closer to the real thing, specially in cases like the R8, that could hit like a bomb, or for the ry30, simply down to its filtering options...
Ive got both, among others ;)
Good video!
A couple comments, though. And I promise I'm not trying to knock/ bash you at all or be a dick, haha.
When you were talking about the TR-606, you showed a TR-06 (modern digital Roland machine). Was that purposeful, or? Haha.
Second - and warning, industrial snob comment incoming (heh). [I wouldn't say I'm like the biggest connoisseur or anything, but I know an alright amount, and this is just my opinion.]
To me, 2/3 people on the thumbnail aren't ones I'd consider like - emblamatic (?) of industrial. Yes, NIN and Ministry have some legit industrial stuff, especially early on - but *so* much of their stuff is more just like rock/ metal.
Which is probably a big reason why they're more popular. They're what non-industrial fans think of when they think "industrial," heh.
And it's a little annoying when you hear people talk about "industrial," and they're really talking about "industrial rock" or "industrial metal" (which often aren't very "industrial" at all). Not talking about you, tbc - it's just something I've seen over time.
Don't get me wrong, I like some "industrial rock/ metal," but I'm like, let's not get that confused with actual industrial 😆.
I know I prefer my industrial to be made with almost all, or *all* electronic instruments. And I say this as someone who played guitar before I got into synths, etc.
If you make it too guitar focused, it just becomes - not really industrial, imo.
Anyway, just some thoughts I've had for a long time, and it makes sense to put them here, heh.
Hey thanks for the comment man.
Damn, I know what a tr-606 is and yes It's a mistake. Too many hours of editing that's what happens 🤦🏻♂️
And I guess I agree with you on maybe half of it haha "Industrial" is a very broad term. It's like saying "metal"...There's many many different genre of Industrial. I mean Ministry is industrial metal so is Rammstein and they're VERY different...To me they're all industrial 🤷🏻♂️ And quite frankly I'm too old for that "labeling/gatekeeping" thing. haha
I'm curious, who would you consider emblematic?
@@Tonepusher Yeah, it happens! No worries. I even thought it may have been an intentional gag, haha.
And it's not really gatekeeping, imo; it's just about what fits the style and what doesn't. I like all the bands mentioned/think they're good, but I wouldn't consider Rammstein, for example, industrial - industrial metal definitely, but that's more a metal subgenre.
It's annoying when I have, for example, even been looking at a list of *electro-industrial* artists/ bands, and too many of them end up basically just being rock/ metal acts, haha.
Tbc, I also understand why you chose Trent Reznor and Al Jourgenson (sp.?) for the thumbnail - it makes sense to go with the popular people. And to reiterate, I'm not bashing/ knocking you, heh, or even criticizing you, or the video, or the thumbnail. These are just my thoughts, and it made sense to put them here.
Who would I choose? That is a bit hard, admittedly. Ogre (or Ohgr?) would definitely stay [or Ogre and Cevin Key], and as for the others, maybe Bill Leeb [of Frontline Assembly], Chris Carter of TG, maybe a member or members from Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, etc. I was a big fan of Velvet Acid Christ for a long time (well, I'm still a fan of the music), so *potentially* even the main guy behind it.
But again, your thumbnail choice wasn't actually a bad one, especially since Trent and Al have made some legit industrial tracks. These are just wider thoughts.
And also again, good video! I'll have to get around to watching your other related ones.
Where did you get the samples?
It's samples I gathered over the years. I don't remember honestly. Most of them are from free sample banks online.
I also have samples that friends sent me. 👌
Did you use any post processing fx on the drums in this video?
no! they are unprocessed samples
However the last one (RY30) are from Splice so they are processed. BUT having this said I would prefer using the original samples if it was to compose original material.
Anyone know where to get good quality plugins of any of these? Particularly the Kawaii R50e and Yamaha RY30????
Idk if there's any plugin using these sounds but I made drum kits with them. You might be interested:
www.tonepusher.com/product-page/90-s-industrial-drum-kits
@@Tonepusher absolute legend! thanks man. love your channel, it's so hard to find anything even remotely related to industrial music gear
@@Ullish1989 hey np man :) thanks to you
I would think it was quake cause it was made by Trent
I have most of these kits hidden away in romplers
Send midi from reason and just program hella industrial beats I’ll never actually use
haha yeah if you want that modern sound they're really good as layers tho! I feel like making Pretty Hate Machine type of beats lately hehe
@@Tonepusher not exactly in the same realm, but I recommend looking for any of the Alesis D-whatever rack units. I have the D4, and it’s great for big gated snares!
@@WVLFRVN cool I'll check that out for sure. I almost added the HR16 in my video but I felt like it wasn't used enough in industrial to mention it. But I do like Alesis stuff for sure.
Not really related, but how did you make that bassline?
hey! All the sounds (except the drums of course) were made using my preset packs. This one was the ''electronic body music'' one available here:
www.tonepusher.com/product-page/electronic-body-music
@@Tonepusher love your EBM and Industrial presets. Keep em coming.
@@speedoflife9375 thanks! :) working on new ones right now 🤘
Kauai the best
yeah Kawai is hard to beat when it comes to industrial hehe such an iconic drum machine
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Goldeneye.
hell yeah haha!! that's exactly what I had in mind 🎉🎉 Such a GREAT soundtrack. That Facility song and the pause menu theme 👌🏻