" I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. " - Faramir
Faramir is the character who Tolkien described as being the most like himself. It is very sad how they portrayed him in the movies, but his arc in the book is phenomenal.
Very true. I've thought, ever since I was young, that people who think of themselves as victims are just as prideful as those who think of themselves as great. The common factor is that they're both thinking of themselves. If you're always dwelling about how the world is about to get you, then you are still thinking of yourself, and you're making yourself out to be a hero with a tragic backstory. I've seen it way too often (mostly from a few relatives of mine) where people act as if they're better than others because they've suffered more. "Those people over there are just rich wussy's who've never had to do anything hard." That sounds a little prideful to me. What if the person you're masking fun of has gone through something horrible? Having money doesn't magically make you happy. Being rich also statically makes you more likely to commit suicide, so it's not all sunshine and rainbows (though life is still easier in some ways.) Anyway, it's just better if we avoid comparing ourselves to others. Thinking that your suffering makes you special is just as prideful as thinking that your blessings make you special.
my friend these are wise words, and indeed it is so, humility isn't meant to be either; (a) a doormat for people to walk on, or (b) self-victimizing by claiming that you are nothing. which honestly, this is the a big misunderstanding of let's say for example humility in the bible or of kings and queens who were actually good people. people who didn't allow people to step on them, but didn't think of themselves. in other words, they weren't self-centered people. a beautiful lesson for us all. 😃😃😃
I think as a woman, this is one of the reasons that, even though the series doesn't have very many female characters (though the present few ARE all strong characters), I've never had a problem with the lack of female characters. Its not a series about the male characters trying to be macho tuff guys and saving the day. The masculinity of most of the male characters is rooted in love, duty, and honor, which is something EVERYONE can admire and connect with, regardless of gender. To me, Aragorn is THE man, he embodies every ideal masculine trait in a healthy way. Knowing the life and backstory of Tolkien, being a young man who went to war alongside his friends and experienced immense grief over their loss, really puts his view of masculinity and heroism into perspective. Fantastic video, well worded and relevant to the two very conflicting viewpoints of masculinity being perpetuated today.
Bet you didnt know around 50% of armed forces are women...Youve been reading too much nonsense. Past a certain point in history, women were pulling their weight, this whole idea that women dont go out and fight etc is cripplingly modern, and people cant help but repeat things they have heard, that sounds good to them...
“A time may come soon,” said he, “when none will return. Then there will be need of valor without renown, for none shall remember the deeds that are done in the last defense of your homes. Yet the deeds will not be less valiant because they are unpraised.” --Aragorn (to Éowyn)
When Aragorn holds Boromir's hand and weeps for his death, that was what proved to me that he deserves to become King. A true king is one who knows the weight of every life that is in his care. He has a golden heart and hands that seek to mend a broken world.
And he had to go through hell, decades in the wilderness fighting unbelievable evil at impossible odds with no home. Always at high risk and the enemy hunting him. He deserves the big win he finally got.
It's a fantastic scene that. Actually not in the book at all! Peter Jackson understood the theme running through tolkwins work and added this dialogue very appropriately
Eowyn is an incredible example of courage and (in the book) provides a beautiful example of learning patience and trust. I wish the movie had had more time to spend with her and Faramir in the Houses of Healing.
She was done perfectly. Her fight against the Witchking wasn’t really a fight at all, she stood her ground but was terrified, laughably overmatched, and was a second away from being crushed like the comparative bug she was, but she was saved by Merry before delivering the final blow. It was glorious for all of that, and would’ve sucked horribly if she just flatout beat this character that made brushed aside Gandalf like a minor inconvenience
Another often overlooked aspect of Aragorn's masculinity is how he is willing to show vulnerability. Yes he can knock some orc heads off, but he can also recite Elvish poetry, confide in the people he loves, and show genuine emotion at the loss of a friend.
It is not about how he is willing to show vulnerability, but to whom he is willing to show it, and when he is willing to show it. A man, a real man is stoic, in control of himself and his emotions. Thus, a man will show his emotions only to a select few, and only to a time he deems appropriate, and only to a certain degree, a degree from which he could remain composed, and in control of himself. Highlighting vulnerability is not the solution ; rather, highlight discernment is.
@@ignerisviivii8551No. Men do not need to be stoic. Especially since so few are capable of being actually stoic and rather just become emotionless asshats.
Sam Gamgee embodies what a good friend a should always be like - always willing to support you when you cannot do it yourself, even if you don't want it
Yeah, excellent point. Sure Aragorn is great, but he's also superhuman (exceeding a human's lifespan and having healing powers). Aragorn is very handsome, he's the rightful king, people owe him service just because of him being the rightful king, he gets a magical sword handed to him and a beautiful elf woman loves him. In other words, real-life humans can never be Aragorn, because they don't have Aragorn's advantages. Yes I get that Aragorn has virtues that real-life humans can aspire to, but still, telling people "just be a superhuman rightful king with magical swords and beautiful elf wives" is going to sound to disenfranchised men like "... I can't possibly be that." Disenfranchised men already know that if they're highly successful then people will think they're great. Citing Aragorn doesn't dispel that perception. You might actually annoy disenfrachised men by citing Aragorn, because it might sound to them like a variant of "just be hyper-successful bro and then all your problems are solved." I know that's not the point, but that's what it can sound like. Meanwhile, as you say, Sam Gamgee is someone who an actual human could actually be. Yes I know he's a hobbit and not a human, yes I know he's on a supernatural quest, but he doesn't have supernatural advantages or magical swords or elf wives or rightful kingship. He's just a really good and steadfast dude. @master_samwise
I would argue that Sam and Aragorn embody the same sort of masculinity and humility. The difference is that they were different people. They had different strengths, weaknesses, abilities, duties, and realms of influence. I believe that both Sam's and Aragorn's characters are such that if they had switched places, they probably would have acted similarly. This is just my opinion, so let me know if you disagree.
Viggo Mortensen absolutely nailed the portrayal of Aragorn, which really helped bring the character to life for the films. I also really liked and appreciated the character of Sam. He was strong, loyal, and confident in his gentle masculinity too. And Sean Austin did an equally great job portraying Sam.
Viggo Mortensen is a phenomenal actor. I recently watched Green Book, one of his more recent movies, and he nailed Tony Lip just as much as he nailed Aragorn
It helps that Viggo Mortensen himself lives much like a turn of the Millennium Aragorn. He's a true modern day Renaissance man, and as a result I have a bad man crush on him. Aragorn is a fictional portrayal of the kind of person I want to embody, and Viggo Mortensen is a very real life role model himself. No wonder he was great at portraying Aragorn.
Jesus is what give us men purpose in this world, without him we would all be looking for purpose in stupid worldly things like power, lust and other evil. Instead we men look to become strong, disciplined and kind for the people we love.
I also think it says a lot about how your focus is where you make a difference. He doesn't say "For Middle-Earth!" because Aragorn doesn't love Middle-Earth, he loves his friends like Frodo and he fights to protect them which in turn helps save the world. I think with that, the fellowship in general, and especially Samwise, Tolkien is saying "Save your friends and you help save the world, give your strength to your companions because that is what truly matters and you help them carry their burdens which in turn helps the world.".
If you’re gonna take a role-model from fiction, this is an excellent choice. For me, I actually got a very similar vibe from Gregor the Overlander. He’s just a kid, but deep down he’s so similar. He *will* do what needs to be done, and protect those in need, and no danger or suffering can push him from that course.
You've fallen for the old system my friend. By defining something as 'true masculinity' you are still upholding the idea of a 'real man' which is harmful Hopefully one day we can work out of this and leave the old systems behind. I understand why people cling to them, they're comfortable and the chaos is not, but still it can be depressing
I agree. As a middle aged woman I look to Aragorn to find the strength I need to do what I must without getting angry or too emotional but allow myself to feel what I do without feeling weak. For years I've had to rely on myself to get things done. Aragorn is my guide,strength and love and compaasion.
Someone made a post, about which grown men you would feel comfortable being stuck in an elevator with and honestly, it's pretty much every Tolkien character that is not grima, or another serven of saurons. Even denethor and saruman who are aholes have to much class as if they would feel like bothering you.... Tolkien wrote way before his time extreamly progressiv characters!!!
When I was still a child, I loved Aragorn for how *cool* he was. Now that I’m in my 30’s, I love him for how *good* he was. There’s nothing wrong with a good ol’ power fantasy now and then. But I find it quite helpful to remember, from time to time, that the King of Kings was a healer and the son of a carpenter.
I feel like people mistake toxic behaviors as masculine behaviors. Toxic behaviors are toxic regardless of gender. Masculinity isn't about being aggressive, angry, or beating your chest like how most people portray "toxic" masculinity, but standing up for what's right, holding true to your values and beliefs, standing up for the defenseless, and doing your duty along with other upstanding traits.
@@Vexreal_ it's either one extreme or the another real masculinity it's from the middle it's like having two swords one swords is the destroyer the violent the rage the war like sword you have then the other sword is the protector the provider the carer too others who can't protect themselves so real masculinity is having the mindfulness to know what sword to use in that situation
This puts his relationship with Arwen in a great perspective and helps explain why that relationship is so important. He is fighting for her, not for himself.
He was a numenorean king he was fighting for everyone. Arwen was a half elf like her dad. Thats why she could choose a mortal life. She would stil live a very long time but she would die.
I would argue by saying he was fighting for *everything* that matters, and I think that included his own life. You can care for and prioritize the needs of others and still care about yourself, too. Being selfless doesn’t mean you don’t value your own life and identity. “Humility is not thinking less of one’s self, but thinking of one’s self less.”
I agree. He was still reluctant about stepping towards his destiny until Elrond informed him of Arwen’s peril. While he was fighting for middle earth, I think Arwen was the push he needed to embrace his greater purpose.
As a father of two sons, this is one of the hardest things to teach them. Helping them to learn to be strong not so they can be bullies but to fight off the bullies from the kids the bullies pick on. Helping them to learn to be successful not so they can be successful, but so they can provide for the family, for the church (or other institutions), etc..
Toxic behaviours such as aggressiveness, dominance, intimidation, arrogance, bullying and harassing the weak are actually the traits of the orcs and the uru-kai wich is sadly bieng mistaken as masculine traits by men. With these traits in men in the military are the cause of genocide and atrocities of againts civilians, especially women and children during the war. I do believe tolkein as a war veteran knows this and probably used the orcs as an example of toxic masculinity and people like aragorn boromir theoden are examples of good men he probably encountred during the war who fougth againts toxic fellow soldiers who like to commit genocide on enemy civilians as well as toxic enemey soldiers who also wants to commit genocide as well.
At Aragorn's coronation, when he says to the hobbits, "you bow to no one", was the best line in the whole story. At true example of humility and respect.
Aragorn as a character has been an inspiration to me my whole life. Refusal to concede with no certainty of victory, no matter how bleak is a constant reminder to never give up until dead. Never considered it a masculine/feminine trait just a a human one. Same vibes from Ripley and many other female heroes.
That's the beauty of virtue - men and women should both strive for each and every one. How we express them tends to differ, but the fact that we DO express them should not.
Having a credit card father, as in, he just paid the bills but was never there emotionally or as a role model of masculinity, I had to take it upon myself to choose what ideal of masculinity I'd adopt for my life. Growing up surrounding myself with RPG and epic stories, the hero and caretaker archetypes really ressonated with me, and I can't really think of better examples than the likes of Aragorn and Uncle Iroh. They show that by walking the middle path one can achieve great things. They are sensible, yet they are not cowards. They dislike violence, but they have the strength to defeat the ones who try to hurt them or the ones they love. They are the rock of those around them, but they are still capable of sharing their feelings and empathazing with others. They can and DO kill, but they would much rather tend the ill and cure. Their strength of character really shows when they have the option of wrongdoing, of becoming corrupt, of becoming usurpers, but they don't. Being weak is not a virtue. They will walk the long path, they will take no shortcuts and they will never betray themselves. By doing that, staying true to their ideals of honor and duty, they become a true beacon of virtue to those around them, natural leaders, which is definitely something admirable and that all men who would one day like to be fathers should aspire to be.
Uncle Iroh really is one of the only other characters I can think of that matches the peak of true masculinity that Aragorn portrays. They're both such good role models.
@@jedimike7622In a way, I even think Uncle Iroh is a better (or rather more relatable) role model. As much as I love and adore Aragorn, his character sometimes gets close to Mary Sue territory. Sure, he has self doubt and doesn't always know where to go, but he ultimately always makes the right choice and excels at what he does. Iroh on the other hand is, as far as we know, a (former) member of a warmongering family who invaded an innocent country. It required extreme loss and emotional struggle to lead him onto the right path. He sees his own history mirrored in Zuko and wants to share the wisdom he received from a very similar experience. I think overcoming your own convictions and finding the right path is a much more real and relatable struggle than knowing the right path all along and "just" overcoming the adversities on the way. (Not wanting to downplay Aragorn's achievements, just highlighting the differences between the characters.)
@@JohannesReif you have a fair point, and I would agree with you. Aragorn is more of an ideal, but Iroh feels more like a real person that we can relate to.
I just wanted to say, as a young woman, I love seeing this kind of content. I wish more men my age had the maturity and strength to aspire to true masculinity like this! I think true femininity is of a very similar nature; both sexes should pursue that which is good, loving, and to the benefit of others. We may just go about it in slightly different ways, due to our strengths and abilities. Thank you again very much! 😊🥰
I completely agree. Young men need to know how to be masculine. As a young man, I wish there were also content of a similar nature showing young women how to be feminine.
@@spencerjensen1993 There are a lot of great examples of true and pure femininity! I personally feel that many females in Tolkien's work fit that description. However, the one I am the most appreciative of, and familiar with, is women of the Bible. If you ever want incredible accounts about feminine yet strong women, you could read the book of Esther, the story of Abigail and David (before he was King of Israel,) the judge Deborah, and so many more! Sorry for the long long reply, but I really do love the topic of giving people excellent examples to look up to. 😊
I love the fact that you tear down social media's projections of toxic masculinity. True Masculinity is not toxic, nor monsterous. Its a thing of beauty and as a millenial woman, I appretiate it when I see it around me, in my life. Your videos on this subject are great. Don't let people tear them down. Great job!!
The one thing i always praised the LOTR trilogies for was their constant reminder to men that it is ok to cry. We see almost all the main male characters, from the humble hobbits, to the mighty kings like Theoden and Aragorn, cry because things are hard and hardship has befallen them. It then shows that this moment is not weakness, but a necessary part of healing. After Theoden mourns the death of his son, be allows himself to be ready to return to protecting his people, rather than keeping it inside and letting the grief consume him.
@@Sh0n0 thats a really stupid take from someone who probably doesn't have anyone they are responsible for. Easy to act tough when things are easy. Acting and being are two different things.
@@DannyChen712 yeah man exactly my point, listen to that whiny tirade you just put, real men shut up and get on with it, its double important if you have others your responsible for, you have to show them you are strong
I am an Asian woman, and I just love the entire fellowship so much. Sam is my favorite; he is not perfect, but is just the best! All of the fellowship really display a vulnerable, AND strong masculinity. One thing I do like about the movies over the books is how they made Aragon a bit conflicted at the beginning about leadership, because it shows his humility and that he does not take leadership and power for granted. I love that Boromir made no excuses and was honest about his "failings". Gimli is an open book about his emotions and feelings, and I feel like he gives the best hugs. As for Faramir, I really wished that they kept the Extended Edition scenes with Boromir, as it shows that he was not so much "tempted" but just showed a love for his brother and father. (They also cut the line where Sam praises his quality!) I also love the female characters as well. Arwen making such a brave choice, Galadriel overcoming temptation, Eowyn fighting for Middle-Earth. I am a new subscriber, thank you for your video essays!
Sam is the real hero he carried frodo even though he wasn't destined to carry the ring himself. He sort of did if not for Sam frodo would of been taken by the ring.
@@leighjordine4031 Very true, but Frodo was actually taken by the ring in the end. If not for Gollum taking the ring from Frodo they would've been lost, the ring's evil ended up being its own undoing.
Honestly the main thing I never liked about the movie was how the made him terrified of his own destiny. He never comes across as arrogant in the books, the time has come for him to face his destiny and he is willing to try his best. In the movies he never really feels like a leader untill he stops whining about how he doesn't want to be king.
I think two additional points to add are that 1. He is not intimidated by or threatened by the women in Lord of the Rings. He trusts and relies on Arwen to get Frodo to Rivendel despite the ringwraiths hunting them. He also has no problem with Eowyn wanting to go into battle despite her father and brother insisting that she should not go. 2. At the end in Return of the King when Aragorn is crowned King, he bows to the hobbits and says "You bow to no one, showing that while he is the king, he does not consider himself to be above them, but that he regard them as equals. All in all so many good things to say about Aragorn.
Eowyn didn't act selfless, she acted selfish as she didn't listen, there is no way around it. Eowyn is not a good example for women in general at least in that regard and she also can't cook. What she did, other woman should not follow. Just imagine every girl being that rebellious. Theoden and Eomer also weren't threatened or intimated by her. Aragorn is different and i don't think that he had no problem with her joining the battle, he just didn't interfere but he would not have allowed it either if he was in her uncle's position that's for sure. I fully disagree with our assessment and i also doubt that's what Tolkien tried to convey.
@@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155eowyn is absolutely a hero and someone for women to aspire to be. she was fully trained and competent in combat. her choice to toss away her dictated role as a woman to fight (in what they thought was a completely hopeless battle, basically a suicide mission for honor) is anything but selfish. bringing up her cooking? really? and in the comments of a video about how authentic masculinity never seeks to punch down, but to uplift others? come on man
@@nickeysalvato8024No, and i would say the same about a man who acts the same. She didn't listen to her father figure and in extension military superior. She had no consideration for why they told her that, all she had in her head was what she wanted to do. No man would get away with this and she only does because she is a woman and it's seen as a positive because of modern feminist politics.
Strong male role model! Love Aragorn! Someone you can look up to someone you can rely on someone who will win the day because he will never give up and never give in!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
-I never thought I would see eye to eye with a christian... -How about eye to eye with a fellow human trying to make sense of life? -Aye, I could do that.
One of the many things I appreciate about Aragorn is that besides fighting / battle skills, healing, physically practical stuff, is that he also has social intelligence and empathy. (Sadly, I personally can only go off the movies) He knows when not to jump into a fight, or when to hold Gimli/Legolas back from attacking. He defers to Theoden's command when in Rohan. He lets Eowyn down gently but honestly. All around good dude.
There's no time like the present to start reafing the books. You can even find some great audiobooks online. Andy Serkis (the performer of Gollum) has an INCREDIBLE audiobook reading of LotR.
@@Ojas97exactly Tolkien gave his characters the gift of long life. Indeed imagine at 80 having the knowledge + a body still young, It would be amazing!!! It can take so much time to learn wisdom!
Christian themes to Tokien characters: Gandalf being self-sacrificial, and resurrected before leaving Earth (ascending), Aragorn being the True Heir, The Savior and The Healing King, and Frodo's themes are too obvious... The Chosen Lamb who can carry The Burden of The World, The Destroyer of Sin and Death.
Beautifully said. I’m glad a popular video is exposing these pop beliefs about masculinity for what they are, knee-jerk reactions to each other, when really the truth lies in the middle. We need more characters like Aragorn in film.
I wish they had left a couple of the scenes in the original theatrical edition of the trilogy where Aragorn reveals his true age. As one of the last descendants of the old Numenoreans Aragorn’s perspective is very different than that of most mortal men. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that he feels more comfortable with elves and wizards than he does with other mortal men.
Thank you, I needed this today. Ever since my depression I focus on myself too much. I wish I knew what Aragon's example looks like in our modern world, but this content helps me refocus at least.
I know how you feel, for I have been depressed these past 22 yrs. There will come a time when you will feel nothing at all and just go on living in auto mode. There will be many, many instances when the idea of ending it once and for all will enter your mind. I was barely able to resist it only because of my bestfriend, and the promise I gave him never to repeat it no matter how tempting, so yes, I did attempted it once. The solution to this is the acceptance that what depressed you will never again be yours. To move on. To cling to the comfort of family and friends. But not for me. Because I wouldn't let go. I have a strong will, and it is this strength that allows me to go on without letting go due to stubbornness. As a Psych major, I know better but... So I urge you to move on. Take joy in every little blessing that comes your way, don't be like me. You are not that strong. Or have my capacity to absorb pain.
I love this! For months I’ve been thinking that Aragorn is a good example of true masculinity, because not only is he a brave warrior, but he’s also gentle and not afraid to show that he can also be vulnerable. Nowadays many young men aspire to become the typical macho man that fights in bars, races cars like a maniac, and thinks that simple acts of kindness such as hugging a friend are a sign of weakness. People should really follow Aragorn’s example of masculinity.
I also really like boromir he made mistakes and paid the price but his mistakes were never due to desire or selfish reasons infact quite the opposite he was just desperate to save his people and his nation from the forces of evil and it was his death that allowed aragorn to accept his position as king
Yes, I think it was clear from even his short screen time (can't speak for the books) it was clear he would have been as great a Prince of Gondor as his brother.
@@OkenWS On the book he has quite more lines, almost always when there's a decision to make (like going through Moria, or when the Fellowship almost froze to death but survived thanks to Boromir pestering them to bring firewood), and he almost always antagonistic to Gandalf and Aragorn, but he always is the voice of reason (from a logical perspective, the Quest was like the worst possible choice, it's all about Faith). The way he talks is also super smart and never overstates his authority, he isn't Captain General of the whole army of Gondor for nothing. In short, he is shown to be a rational, polite, strong, humble and level headed leader, which is why the scene when he looses his marbles hits even harder.
Boromir is never meant to be weak or especially flawed; he is shown to be competent, intelligent, and strong-willed precisely because it sets up how powerful the corrupting effect of the ring and Sauron are. Sauron does not need to prey on the weak, but can overwhelm even someone as heroic and strong as Boromir.
This is why I love Tolkien's works. He truly understood perfect masculinity. To all men and boys of all ages, be the lover, protector, and builder we all can be, build up, love, and protect this society as never before. God bless you all.
Nah, he was an idealist who found recluse in his own ivory tower of imagination, a pretty pathetic sight, really. And I do not want to be a builder or protector, I want to do whatever the shit I want because this is what I want.
@@lukefriesenhahn8186 yes, I watched it, and what exactly do you disagree with? That JRRT was an idealist (despite living through the horrors of war)? Or what?
What an awesome video! As a teacher I often find myself having to challenge these ideas that the boys I teach take as gospel. I do not envy them having to grow up in this age, but I hope I can help them on the road to being a man.
@@namethis658 the ones being referred to throughout the video. i.e. unauthentic masculinity. Unfortunately propagated by a plethora of online influences.
@@sjins1poolboy698 well, I believe that the concept of masculinity or femininity as such should be abandoned, you should instead think of yourself as an individual and not try to fit into enforced roles.
@@namethis658 its not about enforcing roles. Teaching our boys that its okay to look down on woman or that woman are their possessions is wrong just as telling a boy he should be ashamed to be a male because of the disgusting things men have done throughout history. Masculinity and femininity are not dictation that men work and women stay at home (have they been used to perpetuate this? Certainly have. Does that mean that's what they? Certainly doesn't). Teaching a boy that he should be respectful, caring, kind, brave, considerate, and vulnerable doesn't take away from him being his own self. It enables him to be his own self but do it in a way that builds up those people around him in his life. Does that mean I think girls shouldn't learn to be respectful, caring, kind, brave, considerate, and vulnerable? Nope. Do men and women go about in the same way? Nope. Does that mean they're being oppressed from being who they truly are? Nope. Abolishing masculinity and femininity just gets rid of the road map for our kids, they have the whole world at their finger tips like no other generation ever has, constantly being told to be who they want to be. Most of them end up feeling lost and end up desperately clinging to the loudest voice that makes sense to them. But hey that's how I feel and I don't know anything about you beyond the opinion you've shared. I'm sure you have good reason to feel the way you do about femininity and masculinity but I hope maybe you can hear why I think they have value for the young people I teach. 🙂
This reminds me of the old Star Trek episode ("The Enemy Within," I believe). Kirk is split into two different halves. One is overly aggressive, scheming, and quick to anger. The other is too nice, weak, and meek. We learn that they cannot survive by themselves. Each half of the man needs the other. This is a lesson we should learn today. Yes, I'm old. Yes, I'm a geek. No, I don't care.
Funny thing is: many, if not all, those qualities do not only describe ideal masculinity but also ideal femininity to some degree. It is almost like gender/sex doesn't matter that much when it comes down to be a 'self-fulfilled' or 'ideal' person.
That's true. The values and duties are the same. It's how they manifest adn express themselves that is different. This is the lesson that Eowyn learns through experience.
I think there are two ways to approach terms like femininity and masculinity. One of them is the way you describe it - basically where they refer to overall positive traits that we refer to as masculinity or femininity depending on the gender of the person who inhibits them. The second way is to tear the words from gender all together, and simply brand certain qualities one or the other. For example, compassion could be deemed a feminine trait and fairness masculine, but obviously both men and women ideally should encompass both of these traits, thus in a way creating an ideal state where the masculine and feminine is balanced in every individual. I think either understanding is interesting :)
Yep, that’s why I find it hard, if not futile to define what is or isn’t "true" masculinity/femininity. I guess some of it is related to physical differences like muscular strength or sexual organs, but those don’t matter _that_ much in the grand scheme of things − unless one wants to exclude physically weak men or women who can’t bear children as "not real men/women".
Pretty much, we're all humans after all, we all want the same things and go through the same worries and hardships. There are differences of course but we all just want to be happy.
@@jack1701e But the point of this video is that happiness is ONLY achievable through living for OTHERS, not the crappy modern ideal of "self-realization."
Aragorn's works of healing within Minas Tirith don't truly revolve around the healing of physical wounds. Instead, his presence there is to, essentially, mend their souls. To be less poetic, Tolkien's using this part of the story to make an allegory for PTSD; he isn't just supposed to be their nurse, but moreso something of a therapist. As a symbolic element, Aragorn, the king, represents hope in a hopeless time.
Careful! You just accused Tolkien of allegory! He's banging on the lid of his coffin! :p The Houses of Healing show Aragorn bringing spiritual healing. This reminds us how there's another whole part of a person which physical medicine can never touch, and only compassion can help. This is a Timeless Truth. It's *applicable* to how PTSD needs to be treated with therapy, because it is an example of how the non-material part of a person is subject to injury and needs help. But the characters in the H.o.H. do not *literally nor allegorically* have PTSD. They have the Black Breath on them. It's a kind of spiritual illness, which is another example of the Timeless Truth, not a one-to-one code-word for a real-world ax-to-grind. There, used up all my hyphens. Hope that makes sense and is interesting.
My father is a man who, from my youngest years, has informed my ideal of the kind of man I want to be and the ideal of masculinity itself. Honour, self sacrifice, discipline and quiet confidence define him. He is not a fictional character, and so is not without his flaws. While he is very slow to anger, he tends to bottle up his emotions until he explodes in wrath. While not violent this tends to cause a fair amount of emotional pain when it happens. He is old and holds some views that are prejudiced because of his experiences. Having said that, this is a man who went hungry so that his wife and sons could eat when there was not enough food to go around. Even when food is plentiful, when there happens to be a dish he knows we're particularly fond of, this is a man who will needlessly even goes so far as to quietly forgo his own share so that there's more for the rest of us. It's so bad that I have to be vigilant and insist he take his due. He is someone who has worked long hours in multiple jobs to keep a roof over our heads and food on our tables with never a word of complaint. This is a man who, after being laid off in his sixties, cooked, cleaned and otherwise did more than his fair share of the work around the house to support those of us who were still working. He will endure hardship with stoicism, always has time to listen to his sons and wife, and has taught me to think critically and question authority. He has permitted his sons to make mistakes and learn from their experiences, provided those mistakes are not of a magnitude that would be life-altering. He has demonstrated through his actions the virtues of paternal love, patience and discipline. He has shared with us the music and media that has shaped him, shared the stories of his life and the lessons he learned, and has done his best to continue learning even as he has aged. He is someone who would lay down his own life without hesitation for someone under his care. He seeks to understand before judging, and I have ever been able to approach him as a friend first and father second. He is not perfect but embodies what I see as a masculine ideal very similar to Aragorn's. If I can be half the man my father is, I will be a man I can be proud of.
Aragorn is a symbol of servant leadership. Servant leadership requires the virtues of both humility and courage. And so, the servant leader works for the greater good, not for the retention of power nor any selfish desire for wealth at the expense of the poor. Real men defend the weak. They do not bully the weak. One could say that Denethor is an example of "toxic masculinity" because his lust for power and his pride overcomes his capacity to care for those he leads. He abandons the people of Gondor whom he is supposed to serve and protect. You, Master Samwise have articulated well the qualities of good men.
I literally grew my hair out to be like this guy when I was a teenager, I looked up to him, I wanted to be brave like him and protect the weak and honestly this movie and books shaped my life and made me who I am
What a wonderful analysis! ♡ Aragorn is really my favorite archetype of healthy and sacreat masculinity. I hope more people look up to him as an ideal behaviour to achieve.
12:59 "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference".
I grew up with Peter Jackson’s movies, and my dad generously educated me with what I always found to be a wonderful story. But now, I realize that the importance of works like LotR transcend the confines of the worlds they create. They create not just stories, but meaning and purpose for everyone who experiences them. Unlike most else in the world, a good story demands nothing in return but what little time we might otherwise squander. A good story will never betray you.
Aragorn is a prime example of great traits that can be found in men: courage, loyalty, focus, intelligence, leadership and empathy, He's the leader you would willingly walk into any battle with.
This video gave me so much clarity and helped me sort through so much noise in my life. I’m on my 3rd time watching it. No joke. This amazing. Thank you.
I’m a Catholic and I was just having this discussion with another woman after Mass. What made Aragorn and Faramir so appealing is that Toilken made them men of virtue. They exemplified wisdom, courage , selflessness, honor and humility. You clearly see Toilken’s Catholic understanding coming through in these characters.
Such a great video. Over the past few years I have lost my masculinity for fears that I will offend others, but all that has done is fragmented my character. I confess, I did shed a good number of tears watching this. This message is so necessary. I only wish I knew how to get to that place.
This text you´ve just shared with us couldn´t be more masculine, Jeremia. You´ve been brave enough to be honest regarding your fears and limitations, and you recognise de value of Aragorn´s example of masculinity. Keep it up! And be honest with yourself. People will notice, and they will respect the attitude.
“If I pretend … If I pretend I didn’t do those things, it means that I can’t have grown to become someone else.” “Journey before destination,” Dalinar said. “It cannot be a journey if it doesn’t have a beginning.” “I will take responsibility for what I have done,” Dalinar whispered. “If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man.”
Ever since I listened to your Iroh video I thought I recognized a fellow Christian in the way you spoke & your worldview, & now hearing you mention a Biblical story I think confirms it. If you are a Christian then you should be proud that your faith shines through even when you're not talking directly about it. On the off chance you're not take it as a compliment, I admire the way you think/speak.
Splendid video, chap. I really enjoy how you handle the ever growing tide of machismo and misogyny in your videos, encouraging men and people of all genders to express themselves to their fullest, truly living up to their own ideals. Your Iroh video and this combine to make a masterful display of your own thoughts on what is to be a man, and be part of the human race. For the good of all, I hope your videos continue to succeed.
Thank you! Obviously this video is largely aimed at young men, which is what I am (kind of) and what most of my audience is. But I hope women also enjoy and can learn from these examples. Virtues, as I’ve noted before, are never to be exclusive to one gender. We should all strive for them in our unique ways.
The problem with both femininity and masculinity is that the positive traits don’t make you a man or woman, they make you a good human being. We simply split these traits up and say “you are a man, you should be X.” No, to be a complete and mature human being is the goal not to embody some definition.
@@KittySnicker This. Four simple words we should live by. Just be a good person, be kind, be sensible, do good by others and protect those who need it, guide those who need guidance, help when asked, the world would be so much better if we just had more good people in it.
@@lukeporras1288 And the perfect rebuke of Western Canon is Eowyn. She too has strength, valor, and fortitude. She has those traits in abundance. Yet she is undoubtedly a woman with many feminine traits as well. My point is, becoming a whole, balanced human being ought to be the goal of everyone, man or woman. One major mistake of western society is insisting that men and women conform to some ordained definition of their gender and never seek to leave that box. The result is multiple generations of unbalanced people who could never hope to reach their full potential as human beings.
True. Both men and women should strive to be virtuous people. We each have strengths and weaknesses. But if we work together, we can strengthen one another and protect each other from those who seek to destroy us.
"both sides' viewpoints are overreactions to what they dislike about the opposing perspective" not even a minute in and you summed up something that's been rattling around in my mind for ages.
One of the problems with information “revolutions” that it tends to amplify the voices of dangerous, vocal minorities. What we’re going through today with social media today is similar to what happened during the 1920s & 1930s when radio & cinema went mainstream. Hopefully we can find a way as a species through the mess were in now without another calamitous Wprld War.
In the anime, Demon Slayer, Rengoku - an incredible swordsman - is asked by his mother 'Do you know why it is, you were born with greater strength than others? It is so that you can protect the weak. Those who were born blessed with more bountiful gifts than others, are obligated to use those gifts for the sake of the world.' (English dub). Anime has amazing men, who hold true masculinity in them. Tanjiro, Rengoku, Aang, Iro. Thank you for your videos =]
Aragorn is someone who I aspire to be emotionally. I hate these so-called “Alpha Males” that people are seeing nowadays. I’d rather be strong enough to be gentle, and protect the people I know and love if the situation calls for it.
Very akin to Hector of Troy, the defender of his people, the loving and faithful husband, the caring father, the professional soldier, the warrior who takes the path of moral ethics, with emphatic discipline as the foremost virtue, who grieves even for the foes he has slain in battle,
You are a highly intelligent well versed young man; A young man of high ideals, long missed and long needed. I thank God for young men like you- you have given me hope today. Subbed!
I don’t really have anything meaningful to say, other than that this is what I’ve been saying for a while now. (It’s debatable whether or not even that is meaningful to add.) Therefore, this comment is for the algorithm, because I want this video to blow up. This is what our culture is not hearing, but so desperately needs to hear.
Samwise himself a great example of moral strength, caring, and dedication, not for his own good, but for that of his friends. Certainly not the strongest physically, but perhaps the most loyal and humble in the fellowship. My favorite character and a role model we should all look up to. Few among us can be an Aragorn, but nothing stops any of us from being Sam.
Aragorn is the type of man I want to be, I want to be a protector a guardian someone who can carry the burden of others and be relied on and looked up to I want to be kind and gentle but strong and fierce when needed I want to be able to heal peoples injuries from physical to mental and help people grow into something better ill carry the burdens of my loved ones and be the knight they need I want to be someone my future family will be proud of I will make this happen
Your videos are awesome! I personally am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and I often find that the themes and lessons from Middle Earth help me draw nearer unto God in my life, and help me want to be a better person. Your videos totally nail that on the head! They’re inspiring, interesting and engaging, and help me become a better person. Thanks for making them!
True masculinity means self-sacrifice to protect and provide for the physical needs of those who are in your care. True femininity means self-sacrifice to protect and provide for the souls and humanity of those who are in your care.
I like this. Of course there will be some overlap. Moms daily sacrifice for the physical needs of their children as well as their soul/humanity. Fathers daily sacrifice for the souls/humanity if their children as well as the physical needs. But I like this idea.
I'm genuinely sad you feel that way. I assure you there are people worth giving yourself to, who will give themselves to you. It may not be easy, but it is possible.
I love how Tolkien developed his male characters , the good ones. Not afraid of showing weakness and feelings, willing to help and protect their friends, at all costs. He was in a war, saw another one. My grandfather fought in WW1 too. The bonds born in the trenches can be strongest.
Adopting this in the modern day is a challenge worthy of the kind of men we are all trying to become, as shown in this video. It can be done. I recently got married and now my wife is moving in with me so we can start our life together. Before now I’ve always felt like I was biding my time and learning things so that I could serve in some capacity at some point in time. This video confirms for me that the time is now to use my skills and strength to better protect the family I hope to build, and nothing more. I took inspiration from GoW to put all this into a simple mantra to repeat to myself when I feel defeated or lethargic or hopeless/depressed. “Lo there do I see my wife. Lo there do I see my son. Lo there do I see my daughter. Lo there do they call to me.”
In the book Aragorn muses about how his moniker of Strider was originally given as an insult by an old fat man in Bree who liked to gossip endlessly. Aragorn considers briefly expressing displeasure but quickly finds he takes more comfort in knowing the man’s life is peaceful enough he can concern himself with gossip and debate about simple and meaningless things, and Aragorn is glad for him. He goes on to to say that a days march away or closer “were foes so terrible his heart would instantly be made like ice” that the man knew nothing of and thanks to Aragorn, he never would have to. He remains a silent figure wordlessly protecting the simple lives of those who know little of the true nature of the world and expects nothing in return. This also pairs well with the Hobbits thesis “In fact, it has been remarked by some that Hobbits' only real passion is for food. A rather unfair observation as we have also developed a keen interest in the brewing of ales and the smoking of pipeweed. But where our hearts truly lie is in peace and quiet and good tilled earth. For all Hobbits share a love of all things that grow. And yes, no doubt to others, our ways seem quaint. But today of all days, it is brought home to me it is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.” Courage is not found in taking up a blade, nor in conquering a far away land. True courage is found in being brave enough to live a simple life. Many a great man placed themselves in hallowed halls by acting to preserve a simpler life lived in peace. It was the only because Frodo had so much to love about the Shire - from its rolling hills, and quaint homes, to its beautiful streams and bountiful gardens - that he was able to find the strength to make it so far. Today is 4th of July. The celebration of my nation’s founding. I have much to celebrate and I will do so shamelessly. I do this because when the days of bounty my family has been blessed with come to an end, it will be the things I celebrate today that drive me to fight for what is right and to protect and guide my family however I must. For today of all todays it has come home to me that it is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.
@@ltchugacast131 this comment stuck with me, and I’m glad you said it. It goes deeper for me because I’m active duty military and planning on getting out in two years, which means others will have to carry the torch. All I want is to have that simple life to be proud of with my wife. As a kid I wanted to get a battle axe in my hand and start swinging, and now time and fate have made me a bit wiser and less arrogant. Simplicity and purity of existence is a good path to being less arrogant and more appreciative in general.
>Adopting this in the modern day is a challenge worthy of the kind of men we are all trying to become/ Why? Why do you try to become like Aragorn? Aragorn is a fairy-tale hero, detached from reality. Following him will do you no good. Liberate yourself.
Truly, the entire story of "Lord of The Rings" is among the best that portrays what true masculinity is like and what it should be. I believe that this is not only seen in Aragorn, but even with the other male characters who have done what is right throughout the arcs. This leads me to ask if you could make a video mentioning the other men in this story who have also shown traits seen in true masculinity (Gandalf, Bilbo, Legolas, Boromir, Faramir, Eomer, Gimli, Theoden, Frodo, Samwise, Merry, Pippin, Elrond, etc.). Not requested, but I believe is worthy to be noted down as well. Overall, this is a wonderful analysis of Aragorn and how he truly does represent Masculinity at its peak. God bless you!
I really love that in Aragorn, while he rejected Eowyn, he is still very respectful to her. Most videos I see these days say that masculinity is all about disrespecting women
Fantastic video. Aragorn has always been one of my favorite characters in any story. This sums up the reasons why I’ve always looked up to him as an example of what it means to be a man, a leader, and a friend.
This may be the best video I have ever seen on RUclips. I will be sharing it with not only both of my sons, but also both of my daughters. This is the kind of man, the kind of person, that our world stands in such great need of. You have heartily earned my subscription for life!
This is an outstanding meditation on manhood and masculinity, and I look forward to sharing it with my sons once we've finished reading the trilogy. We're almost through Fellowship, so only a few months to go!
Aragorn my boy! The only thing I would push back on is self sacrificial love being the goal. No one man or woman should see that as the goal, it is necessary at times but you get some really uneven relationships thinking it is your job to sacrifice your needs for some else’s! Great video my guy!
Great video! I think it aligns well with your deep dive on Azula. Her approach to life isn't too far from what some are espousing should be everyone's approach. I've noticed some young men find it hard to believe that they can see each other as brothers rather than competitors. I think it takes a bit of faith to start believing in the strength of brotherhood. Stories like the Lord of the Rings certainly help. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
exactly. I always saw Aragorn as the most Masculine guy for he was brave, caring, selfless. Thats what being a man is for me. He wasnt pushing his ego. HE wasnt persuing his fame. He was doing his duty which consisted of caring for others. Thanks for this
Why do so many men today need to be told what masculinity is? 1. Endurance will make you strong and resilient. 2. Dedicate yourself and youll build up your life and you'll be proud of yourself. 3. Help others and make your environment worth living in. 4. Never stop learning and you'll become wise and skilled at anything you put your mind to. 5. Achievements will give your life meaning and worth, as actions speak much louder than words. 6. Always do what fulfills you the most and walk away from people keeping and putting you down. 7. Don't let failure dissuade you or break you, the greatest achievements are always built on top of a mountain of failures 8. Don't let greatness get to your head, always know who you are, where you stand on and what your capacities are. Be humble 9. Who cares what people think? People will think all sorts of things all the time, it's a stream of information that is nigh irrelevant to you, just live with that fact. The only time it's important to pay attention, is when someone has something worthwhile to say. 10. Surround yourself with those that build you up and believe in you, for those that build this world, are those that believe themselves the most.
I think one other thing that should be said about masculinity is that crying does not make a guy weak or feminine. We're human. Sometimes stress and hardship gets to be too much, and a guy beating himself up because he allowed himself to feel human emotions to the point of crying only serves to create the behavior of toxic masculinity, that is to say having such a skewed idea of what masculinity is that it causes you to harm yourself and others. Crying over EVERYTHING is certainly not healthy, but again, moderation and balance, the middle ground as has been mentioned in the video, is what us guys should strive for.
Its not and it overly complicates things, "balance" is such a female concept. They are constantly balancing because they constantly bring themselves on the edge. As a man you must use reason and tought. You habe to think trough your emotions not feel trough them. Crying is not gonna do shit for you. If you do need to cry, do it by yourself. Then regroup think about it and solve it.
Maybe one ought to choose what is worth crying over, and when it is appropriate. Grief or joy both feel worthy to me, while frustration does not. And I can't find issue with retaining your composure when the situation calls for it, unless you don't revisit the emotions later to ensure they're processed properly. Bottled up negativity feels like avoiding one's responsibilities to me. That being said, I don't think anyone has a right to your expressed emotions. If you haven't earned the trust of a man, he is under no obligation to make himself vulnerable to you.
@@DontCallMeFlash I don't disagree. There's times and places to try and have composure and when to let loose, but sometimes it can just be too much at once and, whether we want to or not, the floodgates open, and I don't think anyone should be too harshly judged for it when it's only human.
I really appreciate your writing and analysis. You're right, masculinity is having the strength to protect your loved ones and is displayed so elegantly in Aragorn's character
Let us do what is necessary, not what is written. And protect those who cannot protect themselves until they find the courage to do so. Thank you for this gem of a video. May everyone find a little bit of Aragorn in himself.
Your approach to a very sensitive subject with such a level of sensitivity, thoughtfulness and precision whilst using the perfect example of the kind of man the modern world distinctly lacks is truly commendable
Finally convinced my 13 year old daughter to watch LOTR with my wife and I. I haven't watched them in quite some time and seem to have found a much deeper understanding of the characters and can really see and appreciate how well they are written this time around. I'll have her watch this to hopefully she will understand how amazing of a man Aragorn is.
" I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. " - Faramir
Faramir is another incredible character. His portrayal in the movies is unfortunate.
Beautiful
Faramir is the character who Tolkien described as being the most like himself. It is very sad how they portrayed him in the movies, but his arc in the book is phenomenal.
What a great character
@@snubblebubble4937I was gonna make this same comment.
So good. “True humility is not thinking less of yourself, but thinking of yourself less.”
Very true. I've thought, ever since I was young, that people who think of themselves as victims are just as prideful as those who think of themselves as great. The common factor is that they're both thinking of themselves.
If you're always dwelling about how the world is about to get you, then you are still thinking of yourself, and you're making yourself out to be a hero with a tragic backstory.
I've seen it way too often (mostly from a few relatives of mine) where people act as if they're better than others because they've suffered more. "Those people over there are just rich wussy's who've never had to do anything hard." That sounds a little prideful to me. What if the person you're masking fun of has gone through something horrible? Having money doesn't magically make you happy. Being rich also statically makes you more likely to commit suicide, so it's not all sunshine and rainbows (though life is still easier in some ways.)
Anyway, it's just better if we avoid comparing ourselves to others. Thinking that your suffering makes you special is just as prideful as thinking that your blessings make you special.
Great definition. I also like the definition that "Humility is the courage to face your own weaknesses honestly".
my friend these are wise words, and indeed it is so, humility isn't meant to be either; (a) a doormat for people to walk on, or (b) self-victimizing by claiming that you are nothing. which honestly, this is the a big misunderstanding of let's say for example humility in the bible or of kings and queens who were actually good people. people who didn't allow people to step on them, but didn't think of themselves. in other words, they weren't self-centered people. a beautiful lesson for us all. 😃😃😃
Quite a few TikTok people need to think this way
You only think of things less when they decrease in importance or urgency. It's the same thing. Humility is for the insects.
A quote from my grandfather. "A man knows he has truly grown into manhood when he ceases trying to PROVE that he is a man to those around him."
A wise man
reminds me of my late grandpa, he was the kindest and funniest man i knew as a kid.
Wise man.
Your grandfather sounds like a wise man.
Fantastic quote 💯
I think as a woman, this is one of the reasons that, even though the series doesn't have very many female characters (though the present few ARE all strong characters), I've never had a problem with the lack of female characters. Its not a series about the male characters trying to be macho tuff guys and saving the day. The masculinity of most of the male characters is rooted in love, duty, and honor, which is something EVERYONE can admire and connect with, regardless of gender. To me, Aragorn is THE man, he embodies every ideal masculine trait in a healthy way.
Knowing the life and backstory of Tolkien, being a young man who went to war alongside his friends and experienced immense grief over their loss, really puts his view of masculinity and heroism into perspective.
Fantastic video, well worded and relevant to the two very conflicting viewpoints of masculinity being perpetuated today.
i agree wholeheartedly with this.
Bet you didnt know around 50% of armed forces are women...Youve been reading too much nonsense. Past a certain point in history, women were pulling their weight, this whole idea that women dont go out and fight etc is cripplingly modern, and people cant help but repeat things they have heard, that sounds good to them...
“A time may come soon,” said he, “when none will return. Then there will be need of valor without renown, for none shall remember the deeds that are done in the last defense of your homes. Yet the deeds will not be less valiant because they are unpraised.” --Aragorn (to Éowyn)
@@DG-iw3yw Nothing you've said is factual.
50%? Please if you state such things link a serious source :)@@DG-iw3yw
When Aragorn holds Boromir's hand and weeps for his death, that was what proved to me that he deserves to become King. A true king is one who knows the weight of every life that is in his care. He has a golden heart and hands that seek to mend a broken world.
And he had to go through hell, decades in the wilderness fighting unbelievable evil at impossible odds with no home. Always at high risk and the enemy hunting him. He deserves the big win he finally got.
Rick grimes going to play Aaron in the lotr movie 😅
It's a fantastic scene that. Actually not in the book at all! Peter Jackson understood the theme running through tolkwins work and added this dialogue very appropriately
We all need to thank Tolkien for pushing the best virtues possible into young men and women. Aragorn is incredible but so is Eowyn.
Eowyn is an incredible example of courage and (in the book) provides a beautiful example of learning patience and trust. I wish the movie had had more time to spend with her and Faramir in the Houses of Healing.
@@master_samwiseyep, the houses of healing is essential for Eowyns arc.
@@master_samwise Do you have a video about her? I wanna see the other side of the coin.
The key to both is patience and understanding.
She was done perfectly. Her fight against the Witchking wasn’t really a fight at all, she stood her ground but was terrified, laughably overmatched, and was a second away from being crushed like the comparative bug she was, but she was saved by Merry before delivering the final blow. It was glorious for all of that, and would’ve sucked horribly if she just flatout beat this character that made brushed aside Gandalf like a minor inconvenience
Another often overlooked aspect of Aragorn's masculinity is how he is willing to show vulnerability. Yes he can knock some orc heads off, but he can also recite Elvish poetry, confide in the people he loves, and show genuine emotion at the loss of a friend.
It is not about how he is willing to show vulnerability, but to whom he is willing to show it, and when he is willing to show it.
A man, a real man is stoic, in control of himself and his emotions. Thus, a man will show his emotions only to a select few, and only to a time he deems appropriate, and only to a certain degree, a degree from which he could remain composed, and in control of himself.
Highlighting vulnerability is not the solution ; rather, highlight discernment is.
And pretend to eat a disgusting soup to make Eowyn happy on the trail.
@@ignerisviivii8551 Extremely well said! Thank you for highlighting that important distinction.
@@TechnoSpectre3 lol
@@ignerisviivii8551No. Men do not need to be stoic. Especially since so few are capable of being actually stoic and rather just become emotionless asshats.
Personally, the way I see it, the healthiest form of masculinity is knowing when to be Aragorn and when to be Sam Gamgee
I say: is it too much to ask for both?
(Sam Gamgee video coming soon to a RUclips near you... eventually)
Sam Gamgee embodies what a good friend a should always be like - always willing to support you when you cannot do it yourself, even if you don't want it
Yeah, excellent point. Sure Aragorn is great, but he's also superhuman (exceeding a human's lifespan and having healing powers). Aragorn is very handsome, he's the rightful king, people owe him service just because of him being the rightful king, he gets a magical sword handed to him and a beautiful elf woman loves him.
In other words, real-life humans can never be Aragorn, because they don't have Aragorn's advantages. Yes I get that Aragorn has virtues that real-life humans can aspire to, but still, telling people "just be a superhuman rightful king with magical swords and beautiful elf wives" is going to sound to disenfranchised men like "... I can't possibly be that."
Disenfranchised men already know that if they're highly successful then people will think they're great. Citing Aragorn doesn't dispel that perception. You might actually annoy disenfrachised men by citing Aragorn, because it might sound to them like a variant of "just be hyper-successful bro and then all your problems are solved." I know that's not the point, but that's what it can sound like.
Meanwhile, as you say, Sam Gamgee is someone who an actual human could actually be. Yes I know he's a hobbit and not a human, yes I know he's on a supernatural quest, but he doesn't have supernatural advantages or magical swords or elf wives or rightful kingship. He's just a really good and steadfast dude.
@master_samwise
@@lightworker2956 LEarning to be a servant and a leader at the same time is very essential. True humility
I would argue that Sam and Aragorn embody the same sort of masculinity and humility. The difference is that they were different people. They had different strengths, weaknesses, abilities, duties, and realms of influence.
I believe that both Sam's and Aragorn's characters are such that if they had switched places, they probably would have acted similarly.
This is just my opinion, so let me know if you disagree.
Viggo Mortensen absolutely nailed the portrayal of Aragorn, which really helped bring the character to life for the films. I also really liked and appreciated the character of Sam. He was strong, loyal, and confident in his gentle masculinity too. And Sean Austin did an equally great job portraying Sam.
Viggo Mortensen is a phenomenal actor. I recently watched Green Book, one of his more recent movies, and he nailed Tony Lip just as much as he nailed Aragorn
It helps that Viggo Mortensen himself lives much like a turn of the Millennium Aragorn. He's a true modern day Renaissance man, and as a result I have a bad man crush on him. Aragorn is a fictional portrayal of the kind of person I want to embody, and Viggo Mortensen is a very real life role model himself. No wonder he was great at portraying Aragorn.
"For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Treat your slaves well -
Jesus is what give us men purpose in this world, without him we would all be looking for purpose in stupid worldly things like power, lust and other evil. Instead we men look to become strong, disciplined and kind for the people we love.
"For Frodo" Those two words embody everything about doing the right thing for those you care for.
"You bow to no one"
And he says it quietly, too
I also think it says a lot about how your focus is where you make a difference. He doesn't say "For Middle-Earth!" because Aragorn doesn't love Middle-Earth, he loves his friends like Frodo and he fights to protect them which in turn helps save the world. I think with that, the fellowship in general, and especially Samwise, Tolkien is saying "Save your friends and you help save the world, give your strength to your companions because that is what truly matters and you help them carry their burdens which in turn helps the world.".
@@vincentcleaver1925With tears in eyes.
FRODO LIVES!
As a young man, I've always looked at Aragorn as one of the best references in popular culture for what true masculinity looks like, excellent video!
He’s one of the best! LotR is full of incredible examples, but each in his own way.
If you’re gonna take a role-model from fiction, this is an excellent choice.
For me, I actually got a very similar vibe from Gregor the Overlander. He’s just a kid, but deep down he’s so similar. He *will* do what needs to be done, and protect those in need, and no danger or suffering can push him from that course.
Excellent choice
You've fallen for the old system my friend. By defining something as 'true masculinity' you are still upholding the idea of a 'real man' which is harmful
Hopefully one day we can work out of this and leave the old systems behind. I understand why people cling to them, they're comfortable and the chaos is not, but still it can be depressing
@@painunending4610What do you consider the best option?
" I don’t credit Disney for my high standards in men; I credit Tolkien "
Is that original with you, or did someone say that that you're quoting?
@@sourisvoleur4854 anon.
I agree. As a middle aged woman I look to Aragorn to find the strength I need to do what I must without getting angry or too emotional but allow myself to feel what I do without feeling weak. For years I've had to rely on myself to get things done. Aragorn is my guide,strength and love and compaasion.
Someone made a post, about which grown men you would feel comfortable being stuck in an elevator with and honestly, it's pretty much every Tolkien character that is not grima, or another serven of saurons. Even denethor and saruman who are aholes have to much class as if they would feel like bothering you.... Tolkien wrote way before his time extreamly progressiv characters!!!
@@SingingSealRianaTolkien is a Christian. Progressive ideology is regressive
I love your definition of humility. Miyamoto Musashi said something along similar lines: "Think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world"
I have this same quote inscribed on my Leatherman, great one!
When I was still a child, I loved Aragorn for how *cool* he was. Now that I’m in my 30’s, I love him for how *good* he was. There’s nothing wrong with a good ol’ power fantasy now and then. But I find it quite helpful to remember, from time to time, that the King of Kings was a healer and the son of a carpenter.
Amén to that❤.
Amen.
Amen ❤
Amen
I'm really hoping they don't try to bring him up again and ruin his character
"Your strength is not for yourself, it's for others." Words to live by.
yeah, I hate me, but id die for the ones I love
Gonna steal that and make my new motto.
Depends on the other... for my brothers... yes.
For some hostile invaders...they can have hot lead.
@@Ojas97I don't know, but why couldn't you love another without loving yourself?
I feel like people mistake toxic behaviors as masculine behaviors. Toxic behaviors are toxic regardless of gender. Masculinity isn't about being aggressive, angry, or beating your chest like how most people portray "toxic" masculinity, but standing up for what's right, holding true to your values and beliefs, standing up for the defenseless, and doing your duty along with other upstanding traits.
Summary: having integrity
factual
toxic masculinity is a very real thing that stems from a misunderstanding of what it means to be masculine.
@@Vexreal_ it's either one extreme or the another real masculinity it's from the middle it's like having two swords one swords is the destroyer the violent the rage the war like sword you have then the other sword is the protector the provider the carer too others who can't protect themselves so real masculinity is having the mindfulness to know what sword to use in that situation
Well said. Toxic masculinity isn't masculinity at all. It's just being an asshat.
@@Justday216yes integrity is the most masculine of traits
This puts his relationship with Arwen in a great perspective and helps explain why that relationship is so important. He is fighting for her, not for himself.
He was a numenorean king he was fighting for everyone. Arwen was a half elf like her dad. Thats why she could choose a mortal life. She would stil live a very long time but she would die.
I would argue by saying he was fighting for *everything* that matters, and I think that included his own life. You can care for and prioritize the needs of others and still care about yourself, too. Being selfless doesn’t mean you don’t value your own life and identity. “Humility is not thinking less of one’s self, but thinking of one’s self less.”
@@s.e.e455 very well said he was fighting for her, himself and middle earth
I agree. He was still reluctant about stepping towards his destiny until Elrond informed him of Arwen’s peril. While he was fighting for middle earth, I think Arwen was the push he needed to embrace his greater purpose.
As a father of two sons, this is one of the hardest things to teach them. Helping them to learn to be strong not so they can be bullies but to fight off the bullies from the kids the bullies pick on. Helping them to learn to be successful not so they can be successful, but so they can provide for the family, for the church (or other institutions), etc..
So you are making them Simps
Amen to that!
@@SWOTHDRA typical fuckboy response
Toxic behaviours such as aggressiveness, dominance, intimidation, arrogance, bullying and harassing the weak are actually the traits of the orcs and the uru-kai wich is sadly bieng mistaken as masculine traits by men. With these traits in men in the military are the cause of genocide and atrocities of againts civilians, especially women and children during the war. I do believe tolkein as a war veteran knows this and probably used the orcs as an example of toxic masculinity and people like aragorn boromir theoden are examples of good men he probably encountred during the war who fougth againts toxic fellow soldiers who like to commit genocide on enemy civilians as well as toxic enemey soldiers who also wants to commit genocide as well.
At Aragorn's coronation, when he says to the hobbits, "you bow to no one", was the best line in the whole story. At true example of humility and respect.
cold shivers right there
Aragorn as a character has been an inspiration to me my whole life. Refusal to concede with no certainty of victory, no matter how bleak is a constant reminder to never give up until dead. Never considered it a masculine/feminine trait just a a human one. Same vibes from Ripley and many other female heroes.
That's the beauty of virtue - men and women should both strive for each and every one. How we express them tends to differ, but the fact that we DO express them should not.
Wasn't Ripley a character that was originally designed around a man?
Aragorn, Xena the warrior princess are my favorite screen characters. One is male the other is female but both have the good traits that are admirable
Having a credit card father, as in, he just paid the bills but was never there emotionally or as a role model of masculinity, I had to take it upon myself to choose what ideal of masculinity I'd adopt for my life. Growing up surrounding myself with RPG and epic stories, the hero and caretaker archetypes really ressonated with me, and I can't really think of better examples than the likes of Aragorn and Uncle Iroh. They show that by walking the middle path one can achieve great things. They are sensible, yet they are not cowards. They dislike violence, but they have the strength to defeat the ones who try to hurt them or the ones they love. They are the rock of those around them, but they are still capable of sharing their feelings and empathazing with others. They can and DO kill, but they would much rather tend the ill and cure.
Their strength of character really shows when they have the option of wrongdoing, of becoming corrupt, of becoming usurpers, but they don't. Being weak is not a virtue. They will walk the long path, they will take no shortcuts and they will never betray themselves. By doing that, staying true to their ideals of honor and duty, they become a true beacon of virtue to those around them, natural leaders, which is definitely something admirable and that all men who would one day like to be fathers should aspire to be.
Well said, thank you
Uncle Iroh really is one of the only other characters I can think of that matches the peak of true masculinity that Aragorn portrays. They're both such good role models.
@@jedimike7622In a way, I even think Uncle Iroh is a better (or rather more relatable) role model. As much as I love and adore Aragorn, his character sometimes gets close to Mary Sue territory. Sure, he has self doubt and doesn't always know where to go, but he ultimately always makes the right choice and excels at what he does. Iroh on the other hand is, as far as we know, a (former) member of a warmongering family who invaded an innocent country. It required extreme loss and emotional struggle to lead him onto the right path. He sees his own history mirrored in Zuko and wants to share the wisdom he received from a very similar experience. I think overcoming your own convictions and finding the right path is a much more real and relatable struggle than knowing the right path all along and "just" overcoming the adversities on the way. (Not wanting to downplay Aragorn's achievements, just highlighting the differences between the characters.)
@@JohannesReif you have a fair point, and I would agree with you. Aragorn is more of an ideal, but Iroh feels more like a real person that we can relate to.
It's amazing to me the mental gymnastics people will do to cling on to the old way if thinking instead of seeking true liberation
I just wanted to say, as a young woman, I love seeing this kind of content. I wish more men my age had the maturity and strength to aspire to true masculinity like this! I think true femininity is of a very similar nature; both sexes should pursue that which is good, loving, and to the benefit of others. We may just go about it in slightly different ways, due to our strengths and abilities. Thank you again very much! 😊🥰
Absolutely!
Same, friend. Same.
I completely agree. Young men need to know how to be masculine. As a young man, I wish there were also content of a similar nature showing young women how to be feminine.
This is stupid, but I also kinda admired your choice of word 'more men'. If it was me I'd definitely use 'most'. Such humility👏
@@spencerjensen1993 There are a lot of great examples of true and pure femininity! I personally feel that many females in Tolkien's work fit that description. However, the one I am the most appreciative of, and familiar with, is women of the Bible. If you ever want incredible accounts about feminine yet strong women, you could read the book of Esther, the story of Abigail and David (before he was King of Israel,) the judge Deborah, and so many more! Sorry for the long long reply, but I really do love the topic of giving people excellent examples to look up to. 😊
I love the fact that you tear down social media's projections of toxic masculinity. True Masculinity is not toxic, nor monsterous. Its a thing of beauty and as a millenial woman, I appretiate it when I see it around me, in my life.
Your videos on this subject are great. Don't let people tear them down. Great job!!
The one thing i always praised the LOTR trilogies for was their constant reminder to men that it is ok to cry. We see almost all the main male characters, from the humble hobbits, to the mighty kings like Theoden and Aragorn, cry because things are hard and hardship has befallen them. It then shows that this moment is not weakness, but a necessary part of healing. After Theoden mourns the death of his son, be allows himself to be ready to return to protecting his people, rather than keeping it inside and letting the grief consume him.
Eh i think showing weakness isnt good especially as a man. Real men don’t cry
@Sh0n0 And let the pain consume yourself slowly from the inside is a good idea?
@@milusan326 real men dont get bothered by the pain
@@Sh0n0 thats a really stupid take from someone who probably doesn't have anyone they are responsible for. Easy to act tough when things are easy. Acting and being are two different things.
@@DannyChen712 yeah man exactly my point, listen to that whiny tirade you just put, real men shut up and get on with it, its double important if you have others your responsible for, you have to show them you are strong
True confidence is humble and calm. That's what my dad taught me and what I strive for. That's what masculinity means to me.
Protect the ones who can't.
I am an Asian woman, and I just love the entire fellowship so much. Sam is my favorite; he is not perfect, but is just the best! All of the fellowship really display a vulnerable, AND strong masculinity. One thing I do like about the movies over the books is how they made Aragon a bit conflicted at the beginning about leadership, because it shows his humility and that he does not take leadership and power for granted. I love that Boromir made no excuses and was honest about his "failings". Gimli is an open book about his emotions and feelings, and I feel like he gives the best hugs. As for Faramir, I really wished that they kept the Extended Edition scenes with Boromir, as it shows that he was not so much "tempted" but just showed a love for his brother and father. (They also cut the line where Sam praises his quality!) I also love the female characters as well. Arwen making such a brave choice, Galadriel overcoming temptation, Eowyn fighting for Middle-Earth.
I am a new subscriber, thank you for your video essays!
I agree with you. I think Sam is the best, and most modest and important character. And Boromir represent all sides, good and bad of passion.
Sam is the real hero he carried frodo even though he wasn't destined to carry the ring himself. He sort of did if not for Sam frodo would of been taken by the ring.
I really love that Arwen, in the book, is holding back the light of Mordor with her will. Thus the even star is failing.
@@leighjordine4031 Very true, but Frodo was actually taken by the ring in the end. If not for Gollum taking the ring from Frodo they would've been lost, the ring's evil ended up being its own undoing.
Honestly the main thing I never liked about the movie was how the made him terrified of his own destiny. He never comes across as arrogant in the books, the time has come for him to face his destiny and he is willing to try his best. In the movies he never really feels like a leader untill he stops whining about how he doesn't want to be king.
I think two additional points to add are that 1. He is not intimidated by or threatened by the women in Lord of the Rings. He trusts and relies on Arwen to get Frodo to Rivendel despite the ringwraiths hunting them. He also has no problem with Eowyn wanting to go into battle despite her father and brother insisting that she should not go.
2. At the end in Return of the King when Aragorn is crowned King, he bows to the hobbits and says "You bow to no one, showing that while he is the king, he does not consider himself to be above them, but that he regard them as equals.
All in all so many good things to say about Aragorn.
Theoden is Eowyn's uncle, not father
Eowyn didn't act selfless, she acted selfish as she didn't listen, there is no way around it. Eowyn is not a good example for women in general at least in that regard and she also can't cook. What she did, other woman should not follow. Just imagine every girl being that rebellious. Theoden and Eomer also weren't threatened or intimated by her.
Aragorn is different and i don't think that he had no problem with her joining the battle, he just didn't interfere but he would not have allowed it either if he was in her uncle's position that's for sure.
I fully disagree with our assessment and i also doubt that's what Tolkien tried to convey.
@@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155eowyn is absolutely a hero and someone for women to aspire to be. she was fully trained and competent in combat. her choice to toss away her dictated role as a woman to fight (in what they thought was a completely hopeless battle, basically a suicide mission for honor) is anything but selfish. bringing up her cooking? really? and in the comments of a video about how authentic masculinity never seeks to punch down, but to uplift others? come on man
@@nickeysalvato8024No, and i would say the same about a man who acts the same. She didn't listen to her father figure and in extension military superior. She had no consideration for why they told her that, all she had in her head was what she wanted to do.
No man would get away with this and she only does because she is a woman and it's seen as a positive because of modern feminist politics.
its basically the story of Joseph from the Bible when he becomes the ruler of Egypt.
"Strength makes one fit for service, not to rule" The Way of Kings - Brandon Sanderson
I don't remember that quote but that has to be one of Dalinar's, right?
@@master_samwise it's from the in universe book itself
Strong male role model! Love Aragorn! Someone you can look up to someone you can rely on someone who will win the day because he will never give up and never give in!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
-I never thought I would see eye to eye with a christian...
-How about eye to eye with a fellow human trying to make sense of life?
-Aye, I could do that.
Damn good comment here
One of the many things I appreciate about Aragorn is that besides fighting / battle skills, healing, physically practical stuff, is that he also has social intelligence and empathy. (Sadly, I personally can only go off the movies) He knows when not to jump into a fight, or when to hold Gimli/Legolas back from attacking. He defers to Theoden's command when in Rohan. He lets Eowyn down gently but honestly. All around good dude.
There's no time like the present to start reafing the books. You can even find some great audiobooks online. Andy Serkis (the performer of Gollum) has an INCREDIBLE audiobook reading of LotR.
@@Ojas97 he grew up in Rivendell for a good bit. That's generally a good influence.
@@Ojas97exactly Tolkien gave his characters the gift of long life. Indeed imagine at 80 having the knowledge + a body still young, It would be amazing!!! It can take so much time to learn wisdom!
@@Ojas97who lived eighty years
“It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not weakness, that is life.”
- Jean-Luc Picard
Beautiful.
"I shitted yesterday."
- me
I was performing hand to gland combat yesterday while looking at some juicy bbw pictures.
-me
@@Wonkess_Chonkess Beautiful 🥲
@@destructionman1 That's not a joke bdw
Christian themes to Tokien characters:
Gandalf being self-sacrificial, and resurrected before leaving Earth (ascending), Aragorn being the True Heir, The Savior and The Healing King, and Frodo's themes are too obvious... The Chosen Lamb who can carry The Burden of The World, The Destroyer of Sin and Death.
Beautifully said. I’m glad a popular video is exposing these pop beliefs about masculinity for what they are, knee-jerk reactions to each other, when really the truth lies in the middle. We need more characters like Aragorn in film.
Spot on!!
I wish they had left a couple of the scenes in the original theatrical edition of the trilogy where Aragorn reveals his true age. As one of the last descendants of the old Numenoreans Aragorn’s perspective is very different than that of most mortal men. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that he feels more comfortable with elves and wizards than he does with other mortal men.
Thank you, I needed this today. Ever since my depression I focus on myself too much. I wish I knew what Aragon's example looks like in our modern world, but this content helps me refocus at least.
So glad I could help however little I can!
I know how you feel, for I have been depressed these past 22 yrs.
There will come a time when you will feel nothing at all and just go on living in auto mode. There will be many, many instances when the idea of ending it once and for all will enter your mind. I was barely able to resist it only because of my bestfriend, and the promise I gave him never to repeat it no matter how tempting, so yes, I did attempted it once.
The solution to this is the acceptance that what depressed you will never again be yours. To move on. To cling to the comfort of family and friends. But not for me. Because I wouldn't let go. I have a strong will, and it is this strength that allows me to go on without letting go due to stubbornness. As a Psych major, I know better but...
So I urge you to move on. Take joy in every little blessing that comes your way, don't be like me. You are not that strong. Or have my capacity to absorb pain.
I love this! For months I’ve been thinking that Aragorn is a good example of true masculinity, because not only is he a brave warrior, but he’s also gentle and not afraid to show that he can also be vulnerable. Nowadays many young men aspire to become the typical macho man that fights in bars, races cars like a maniac, and thinks that simple acts of kindness such as hugging a friend are a sign of weakness. People should really follow Aragorn’s example of masculinity.
But we still get hate for some reason which sucks
I also really like boromir he made mistakes and paid the price but his mistakes were never due to desire or selfish reasons infact quite the opposite he was just desperate to save his people and his nation from the forces of evil and it was his death that allowed aragorn to accept his position as king
Yes, I think it was clear from even his short screen time (can't speak for the books) it was clear he would have been as great a Prince of Gondor as his brother.
@@OkenWS On the book he has quite more lines, almost always when there's a decision to make (like going through Moria, or when the Fellowship almost froze to death but survived thanks to Boromir pestering them to bring firewood), and he almost always antagonistic to Gandalf and Aragorn, but he always is the voice of reason (from a logical perspective, the Quest was like the worst possible choice, it's all about Faith). The way he talks is also super smart and never overstates his authority, he isn't Captain General of the whole army of Gondor for nothing.
In short, he is shown to be a rational, polite, strong, humble and level headed leader, which is why the scene when he looses his marbles hits even harder.
Boromir is never meant to be weak or especially flawed; he is shown to be competent, intelligent, and strong-willed precisely because it sets up how powerful the corrupting effect of the ring and Sauron are. Sauron does not need to prey on the weak, but can overwhelm even someone as heroic and strong as Boromir.
Feeling kinda lost lately and I needed this. Thank you brother.
This is why I love Tolkien's works. He truly understood perfect masculinity. To all men and boys of all ages, be the lover, protector, and builder we all can be, build up, love, and protect this society as never before. God bless you all.
Nah, he was an idealist who found recluse in his own ivory tower of imagination, a pretty pathetic sight, really.
And I do not want to be a builder or protector, I want to do whatever the shit I want because this is what I want.
@@namethis658 What an awful comment. Did you not watch the video, or research Tolkien at all?
@@lukefriesenhahn8186 yes, I watched it, and what exactly do you disagree with? That JRRT was an idealist (despite living through the horrors of war)? Or what?
For what???
This goofy guy is trolling, don't be tempted to wrangle! Good comment, bless you!
What an awesome video! As a teacher I often find myself having to challenge these ideas that the boys I teach take as gospel. I do not envy them having to grow up in this age, but I hope I can help them on the road to being a man.
Good on you!
Ideas like what?
@@namethis658 the ones being referred to throughout the video. i.e. unauthentic masculinity. Unfortunately propagated by a plethora of online influences.
@@sjins1poolboy698 well, I believe that the concept of masculinity or femininity as such should be abandoned, you should instead think of yourself as an individual and not try to fit into enforced roles.
@@namethis658 its not about enforcing roles. Teaching our boys that its okay to look down on woman or that woman are their possessions is wrong just as telling a boy he should be ashamed to be a male because of the disgusting things men have done throughout history. Masculinity and femininity are not dictation that men work and women stay at home (have they been used to perpetuate this? Certainly have. Does that mean that's what they? Certainly doesn't). Teaching a boy that he should be respectful, caring, kind, brave, considerate, and vulnerable doesn't take away from him being his own self. It enables him to be his own self but do it in a way that builds up those people around him in his life. Does that mean I think girls shouldn't learn to be respectful, caring, kind, brave, considerate, and vulnerable? Nope. Do men and women go about in the same way? Nope. Does that mean they're being oppressed from being who they truly are? Nope. Abolishing masculinity and femininity just gets rid of the road map for our kids, they have the whole world at their finger tips like no other generation ever has, constantly being told to be who they want to be. Most of them end up feeling lost and end up desperately clinging to the loudest voice that makes sense to them.
But hey that's how I feel and I don't know anything about you beyond the opinion you've shared. I'm sure you have good reason to feel the way you do about femininity and masculinity but I hope maybe you can hear why I think they have value for the young people I teach. 🙂
This reminds me of the old Star Trek episode ("The Enemy Within," I believe). Kirk is split into two different halves. One is overly aggressive, scheming, and quick to anger. The other is too nice, weak, and meek. We learn that they cannot survive by themselves. Each half of the man needs the other. This is a lesson we should learn today. Yes, I'm old. Yes, I'm a geek. No, I don't care.
Funny thing is: many, if not all, those qualities do not only describe ideal masculinity but also ideal femininity to some degree. It is almost like gender/sex doesn't matter that much when it comes down to be a 'self-fulfilled' or 'ideal' person.
That's true. The values and duties are the same. It's how they manifest adn express themselves that is different. This is the lesson that Eowyn learns through experience.
I think there are two ways to approach terms like femininity and masculinity. One of them is the way you describe it - basically where they refer to overall positive traits that we refer to as masculinity or femininity depending on the gender of the person who inhibits them.
The second way is to tear the words from gender all together, and simply brand certain qualities one or the other. For example, compassion could be deemed a feminine trait and fairness masculine, but obviously both men and women ideally should encompass both of these traits, thus in a way creating an ideal state where the masculine and feminine is balanced in every individual.
I think either understanding is interesting :)
Yep, that’s why I find it hard, if not futile to define what is or isn’t "true" masculinity/femininity. I guess some of it is related to physical differences like muscular strength or sexual organs, but those don’t matter _that_ much in the grand scheme of things − unless one wants to exclude physically weak men or women who can’t bear children as "not real men/women".
Pretty much, we're all humans after all, we all want the same things and go through the same worries and hardships. There are differences of course but we all just want to be happy.
@@jack1701e But the point of this video is that happiness is ONLY achievable through living for OTHERS, not the crappy modern ideal of "self-realization."
Aragorn's works of healing within Minas Tirith don't truly revolve around the healing of physical wounds. Instead, his presence there is to, essentially, mend their souls. To be less poetic, Tolkien's using this part of the story to make an allegory for PTSD; he isn't just supposed to be their nurse, but moreso something of a therapist. As a symbolic element, Aragorn, the king, represents hope in a hopeless time.
But also as the literal political monarch, that can never be forgotten
Careful! You just accused Tolkien of allegory! He's banging on the lid of his coffin! :p
The Houses of Healing show Aragorn bringing spiritual healing. This reminds us how there's another whole part of a person which physical medicine can never touch, and only compassion can help. This is a Timeless Truth. It's *applicable* to how PTSD needs to be treated with therapy, because it is an example of how the non-material part of a person is subject to injury and needs help.
But the characters in the H.o.H. do not *literally nor allegorically* have PTSD. They have the Black Breath on them. It's a kind of spiritual illness, which is another example of the Timeless Truth, not a one-to-one code-word for a real-world ax-to-grind.
There, used up all my hyphens. Hope that makes sense and is interesting.
@@Dawnrunner42 When your congressperson enters your hospital room don't you jump out of bed gleeful? No? Just me?
My father is a man who, from my youngest years, has informed my ideal of the kind of man I want to be and the ideal of masculinity itself. Honour, self sacrifice, discipline and quiet confidence define him. He is not a fictional character, and so is not without his flaws. While he is very slow to anger, he tends to bottle up his emotions until he explodes in wrath. While not violent this tends to cause a fair amount of emotional pain when it happens. He is old and holds some views that are prejudiced because of his experiences. Having said that, this is a man who went hungry so that his wife and sons could eat when there was not enough food to go around. Even when food is plentiful, when there happens to be a dish he knows we're particularly fond of, this is a man who will needlessly even goes so far as to quietly forgo his own share so that there's more for the rest of us. It's so bad that I have to be vigilant and insist he take his due. He is someone who has worked long hours in multiple jobs to keep a roof over our heads and food on our tables with never a word of complaint. This is a man who, after being laid off in his sixties, cooked, cleaned and otherwise did more than his fair share of the work around the house to support those of us who were still working. He will endure hardship with stoicism, always has time to listen to his sons and wife, and has taught me to think critically and question authority. He has permitted his sons to make mistakes and learn from their experiences, provided those mistakes are not of a magnitude that would be life-altering. He has demonstrated through his actions the virtues of paternal love, patience and discipline. He has shared with us the music and media that has shaped him, shared the stories of his life and the lessons he learned, and has done his best to continue learning even as he has aged. He is someone who would lay down his own life without hesitation for someone under his care. He seeks to understand before judging, and I have ever been able to approach him as a friend first and father second. He is not perfect but embodies what I see as a masculine ideal very similar to Aragorn's.
If I can be half the man my father is, I will be a man I can be proud of.
This is a beautiful tribute to your father.
Wow
I wish you luck in your endeavor.
Aragorn is a symbol of servant leadership. Servant leadership requires the virtues of both humility and courage. And so, the servant leader works for the greater good, not for the retention of power nor any selfish desire for wealth at the expense of the poor. Real men defend the weak. They do not bully the weak. One could say that Denethor is an example of "toxic masculinity" because his lust for power and his pride overcomes his capacity to care for those he leads. He abandons the people of Gondor whom he is supposed to serve and protect. You, Master Samwise have articulated well the qualities of good men.
I've always aspired to be a servant leader. That is true leadership to me.
I literally grew my hair out to be like this guy when I was a teenager, I looked up to him, I wanted to be brave like him and protect the weak and honestly this movie and books shaped my life and made me who I am
well done..👍...greetings from Gandalf, formerly the grey, now literally the white ! 🤫 😂
The natural progression of this is the channel's namesake. Here's hoping for another another version of this discussing ya boi Samwise Gamgee.
Oh you know that is coming... eventually
What a wonderful analysis! ♡ Aragorn is really my favorite archetype of healthy and sacreat masculinity. I hope more people look up to him as an ideal behaviour to achieve.
12:59 "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference".
I grew up with Peter Jackson’s movies, and my dad generously educated me with what I always found to be a wonderful story. But now, I realize that the importance of works like LotR transcend the confines of the worlds they create. They create not just stories, but meaning and purpose for everyone who experiences them. Unlike most else in the world, a good story demands nothing in return but what little time we might otherwise squander. A good story will never betray you.
Aragorn is a prime example of great traits that can be found in men: courage, loyalty, focus, intelligence, leadership and empathy, He's the leader you would willingly walk into any battle with.
Exactly. Equally due to the fact that Aragorn is the type of leader who would walk into battle with you.
This video gave me so much clarity and helped me sort through so much noise in my life. I’m on my 3rd time watching it. No joke. This amazing. Thank you.
I am glad I could help in any small way!
"God, grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference."
I’m a Catholic and I was just having this discussion with another woman after Mass. What made Aragorn and Faramir so appealing is that Toilken made them men of virtue. They exemplified wisdom, courage , selflessness, honor and humility. You clearly see Toilken’s Catholic understanding coming through in these characters.
Such a great video. Over the past few years I have lost my masculinity for fears that I will offend others, but all that has done is fragmented my character. I confess, I did shed a good number of tears watching this. This message is so necessary. I only wish I knew how to get to that place.
This text you´ve just shared with us couldn´t be more masculine, Jeremia. You´ve been brave enough to be honest regarding your fears and limitations, and you recognise de value of Aragorn´s example of masculinity. Keep it up! And be honest with yourself. People will notice, and they will respect the attitude.
“If I pretend … If I pretend I didn’t do those things, it means that I can’t have grown to become someone else.”
“Journey before destination,” Dalinar said. “It cannot be a journey if it doesn’t have a beginning.”
“I will take responsibility for what I have done,” Dalinar whispered. “If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man.”
Ever since I listened to your Iroh video I thought I recognized a fellow Christian in the way you spoke & your worldview, & now hearing you mention a Biblical story I think confirms it. If you are a Christian then you should be proud that your faith shines through even when you're not talking directly about it. On the off chance you're not take it as a compliment, I admire the way you think/speak.
I thought the same thing.
My apologies for the late response, but thank you and God bless you!
Splendid video, chap. I really enjoy how you handle the ever growing tide of machismo and misogyny in your videos, encouraging men and people of all genders to express themselves to their fullest, truly living up to their own ideals. Your Iroh video and this combine to make a masterful display of your own thoughts on what is to be a man, and be part of the human race. For the good of all, I hope your videos continue to succeed.
Thank you! Obviously this video is largely aimed at young men, which is what I am (kind of) and what most of my audience is. But I hope women also enjoy and can learn from these examples. Virtues, as I’ve noted before, are never to be exclusive to one gender. We should all strive for them in our unique ways.
It’s hard to find but it’s there!
"Greater Love hath no Man than this, that He should lay down His life for His friends" Great Video My Brother.
Aragorn’s line “For Frodo,” summarizes his character perfectly.
The problem with both femininity and masculinity is that the positive traits don’t make you a man or woman, they make you a good human being. We simply split these traits up and say “you are a man, you should be X.” No, to be a complete and mature human being is the goal not to embody some definition.
Exactly! Just be a good person
True, but in the Western canon, strength, valor, and fortitude were associated with manliness, not femininity.
@@KittySnicker This. Four simple words we should live by. Just be a good person, be kind, be sensible, do good by others and protect those who need it, guide those who need guidance, help when asked, the world would be so much better if we just had more good people in it.
@@lukeporras1288 And the perfect rebuke of Western Canon is Eowyn. She too has strength, valor, and fortitude. She has those traits in abundance. Yet she is undoubtedly a woman with many feminine traits as well. My point is, becoming a whole, balanced human being ought to be the goal of everyone, man or woman. One major mistake of western society is insisting that men and women conform to some ordained definition of their gender and never seek to leave that box. The result is multiple generations of unbalanced people who could never hope to reach their full potential as human beings.
True. Both men and women should strive to be virtuous people. We each have strengths and weaknesses. But if we work together, we can strengthen one another and protect each other from those who seek to destroy us.
"both sides' viewpoints are overreactions to what they dislike about the opposing perspective" not even a minute in and you summed up something that's been rattling around in my mind for ages.
One of the problems with information “revolutions” that it tends to amplify the voices of dangerous, vocal minorities. What we’re going through today with social media today is similar to what happened during the 1920s & 1930s when radio & cinema went mainstream. Hopefully we can find a way as a species through the mess were in now without another calamitous Wprld War.
In the anime, Demon Slayer, Rengoku - an incredible swordsman - is asked by his mother 'Do you know why it is, you were born with greater strength than others? It is so that you can protect the weak. Those who were born blessed with more bountiful gifts than others, are obligated to use those gifts for the sake of the world.' (English dub).
Anime has amazing men, who hold true masculinity in them. Tanjiro, Rengoku, Aang, Iro. Thank you for your videos =]
Do we count the butchery of Aang that occurs in LoK?
Much is asked of who much is given
Rengoku remind me of Aragorn, as well. I hope you can check that character someday, embody everything you say in this video
Thorfinn too of course! Not too big a fan of demon slayer but you're right about the heroism themes. They're also in mha
I’ll like to add All Might to the list here
Aragorn is someone who I aspire to be emotionally. I hate these so-called “Alpha Males” that people are seeing nowadays. I’d rather be strong enough to be gentle, and protect the people I know and love if the situation calls for it.
This was nicely said. More men need to understand this concept of masculinity. For humanity's sake.
Very akin to Hector of Troy, the defender of his people, the loving and faithful husband, the caring father, the professional soldier, the warrior who takes the path of moral ethics, with emphatic discipline as the foremost virtue, who grieves even for the foes he has slain in battle,
Oh yes indeed very loving father with quilt
How did Hector end up, remind me? ;D
@@namethis658 He died at the hands of Achilles in duel in retribution for the death of his cousin, Patrocles,
@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 so he was a loser.
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 not his cousin.....look it up 😂🌈
You are a highly intelligent well versed young man; A young man of high ideals, long missed and long needed. I thank God for young men like you- you have given me hope today. Subbed!
Wow, that is incredibly kind of you! Thanks!
@@master_samwise Meant every word 👍
I don’t really have anything meaningful to say, other than that this is what I’ve been saying for a while now. (It’s debatable whether or not even that is meaningful to add.) Therefore, this comment is for the algorithm, because I want this video to blow up. This is what our culture is not hearing, but so desperately needs to hear.
I appreciate you!
Samwise himself a great example of moral strength, caring, and dedication, not for his own good, but for that of his friends. Certainly not the strongest physically, but perhaps the most loyal and humble in the fellowship. My favorite character and a role model we should all look up to. Few among us can be an Aragorn, but nothing stops any of us from being Sam.
Well said!
we were not made for ourselves, but for eachother
Aragorn is the type of man I want to be, I want to be a protector a guardian someone who can carry the burden of others and be relied on and looked up to I want to be kind and gentle but strong and fierce when needed I want to be able to heal peoples injuries from physical to mental and help people grow into something better ill carry the burdens of my loved ones and be the knight they need I want to be someone my future family will be proud of I will make this happen
Your videos are awesome! I personally am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and I often find that the themes and lessons from Middle Earth help me draw nearer unto God in my life, and help me want to be a better person. Your videos totally nail that on the head! They’re inspiring, interesting and engaging, and help me become a better person. Thanks for making them!
Watching this video I was actually thinking, "Oh I wish I could tell you about Captain Moroni, Teancum, Captain Heleman, the Stripling Warriors!"
Makes sense since Tolkien was a very devoted Catholic so his works have heavy Christian themes and morals.
Surely you’ve read Enders Game and/or Wheel of Time?
Thanks for this. Now is a time when we need the right stories. This was making me think of "A Hobbit, a Wardrobe, and the Great War."
True masculinity means self-sacrifice to protect and provide for the physical needs of those who are in your care.
True femininity means self-sacrifice to protect and provide for the souls and humanity of those who are in your care.
I like this. Of course there will be some overlap. Moms daily sacrifice for the physical needs of their children as well as their soul/humanity. Fathers daily sacrifice for the souls/humanity if their children as well as the physical needs.
But I like this idea.
too bad there's nothing or nobody worth self-sacrificing to protect in this day and age.
I'm genuinely sad you feel that way. I assure you there are people worth giving yourself to, who will give themselves to you. It may not be easy, but it is possible.
I love how Tolkien developed his male characters , the good ones.
Not afraid of showing weakness and feelings, willing to help and protect their friends, at all costs. He was in a war, saw another one. My grandfather fought in WW1 too. The bonds born in the trenches can be strongest.
Adopting this in the modern day is a challenge worthy of the kind of men we are all trying to become, as shown in this video. It can be done.
I recently got married and now my wife is moving in with me so we can start our life together. Before now I’ve always felt like I was biding my time and learning things so that I could serve in some capacity at some point in time. This video confirms for me that the time is now to use my skills and strength to better protect the family I hope to build, and nothing more.
I took inspiration from GoW to put all this into a simple mantra to repeat to myself when I feel defeated or lethargic or hopeless/depressed.
“Lo there do I see my wife.
Lo there do I see my son.
Lo there do I see my daughter.
Lo there do they call to me.”
In the book Aragorn muses about how his moniker of Strider was originally given as an insult by an old fat man in Bree who liked to gossip endlessly. Aragorn considers briefly expressing displeasure but quickly finds he takes more comfort in knowing the man’s life is peaceful enough he can concern himself with gossip and debate about simple and meaningless things, and Aragorn is glad for him. He goes on to to say that a days march away or closer “were foes so terrible his heart would instantly be made like ice” that the man knew nothing of and thanks to Aragorn, he never would have to. He remains a silent figure wordlessly protecting the simple lives of those who know little of the true nature of the world and expects nothing in return. This also pairs well with the Hobbits thesis
“In fact, it has been remarked by some that Hobbits' only real passion is for food. A rather unfair observation as we have also developed a keen interest in the brewing of ales and the smoking of pipeweed. But where our hearts truly lie is in peace and quiet and good tilled earth. For all Hobbits share a love of all things that grow. And yes, no doubt to others, our ways seem quaint. But today of all days, it is brought home to me it is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.”
Courage is not found in taking up a blade, nor in conquering a far away land. True courage is found in being brave enough to live a simple life. Many a great man placed themselves in hallowed halls by acting to preserve a simpler life lived in peace. It was the only because Frodo had so much to love about the Shire - from its rolling hills, and quaint homes, to its beautiful streams and bountiful gardens - that he was able to find the strength to make it so far. Today is 4th of July. The celebration of my nation’s founding. I have much to celebrate and I will do so shamelessly. I do this because when the days of bounty my family has been blessed with come to an end, it will be the things I celebrate today that drive me to fight for what is right and to protect and guide my family however I must. For today of all todays it has come home to me that it is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.
@@ltchugacast131 this comment stuck with me, and I’m glad you said it. It goes deeper for me because I’m active duty military and planning on getting out in two years, which means others will have to carry the torch. All I want is to have that simple life to be proud of with my wife. As a kid I wanted to get a battle axe in my hand and start swinging, and now time and fate have made me a bit wiser and less arrogant. Simplicity and purity of existence is a good path to being less arrogant and more appreciative in general.
>Adopting this in the modern day is a challenge worthy of the kind of men we are all trying to become/
Why? Why do you try to become like Aragorn?
Aragorn is a fairy-tale hero, detached from reality. Following him will do you no good. Liberate yourself.
Wait till she divorces you
@@namethis658this
One of if not the best video I have watched in the last several months. This hit home more than I expected
Truly, the entire story of "Lord of The Rings" is among the best that portrays what true masculinity is like and what it should be. I believe that this is not only seen in Aragorn, but even with the other male characters who have done what is right throughout the arcs.
This leads me to ask if you could make a video mentioning the other men in this story who have also shown traits seen in true masculinity (Gandalf, Bilbo, Legolas, Boromir, Faramir, Eomer, Gimli, Theoden, Frodo, Samwise, Merry, Pippin, Elrond, etc.). Not requested, but I believe is worthy to be noted down as well. Overall, this is a wonderful analysis of Aragorn and how he truly does represent Masculinity at its peak. God bless you!
I really love that in Aragorn, while he rejected Eowyn, he is still very respectful to her.
Most videos I see these days say that masculinity is all about disrespecting women
This is so true. We don't deserve this, but we truly need it.
Fantastic video. Aragorn has always been one of my favorite characters in any story. This sums up the reasons why I’ve always looked up to him as an example of what it means to be a man, a leader, and a friend.
This may be the best video I have ever seen on RUclips. I will be sharing it with not only both of my sons, but also both of my daughters.
This is the kind of man, the kind of person, that our world stands in such great need of.
You have heartily earned my subscription for life!
That is incredibly high praise. Thank you!
"This story shall the good man teach his son." -Harry the King
Teach your girls how to be women.....who do we always let girlsbof the hook scotch free???
“My friends, you bow to no one.”
Tears, every time.
This is an outstanding meditation on manhood and masculinity, and I look forward to sharing it with my sons once we've finished reading the trilogy. We're almost through Fellowship, so only a few months to go!
Aragorn my boy! The only thing I would push back on is self sacrificial love being the goal. No one man or woman should see that as the goal, it is necessary at times but you get some really uneven relationships thinking it is your job to sacrifice your needs for some else’s! Great video my guy!
I do agree that could go wrong. I think the ideal is to find someone with that same attitude
This was a brilliant video and i finished reading Lord of the Rings again this week, Tolkien was something else.
Always a good time to read some Tolkien!
Extremely well said! Balanced masculinity is Aragorn! Let’s hope the men of our world wake up soon.
Great video! I think it aligns well with your deep dive on Azula. Her approach to life isn't too far from what some are espousing should be everyone's approach. I've noticed some young men find it hard to believe that they can see each other as brothers rather than competitors. I think it takes a bit of faith to start believing in the strength of brotherhood. Stories like the Lord of the Rings certainly help. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
exactly. I always saw Aragorn as the most Masculine guy for he was brave, caring, selfless. Thats what being a man is for me. He wasnt pushing his ego. HE wasnt persuing his fame. He was doing his duty which consisted of caring for others. Thanks for this
Why do so many men today need to be told what masculinity is?
1. Endurance will make you strong and resilient.
2. Dedicate yourself and youll build up your life and you'll be proud of yourself.
3. Help others and make your environment worth living in.
4. Never stop learning and you'll become wise and skilled at anything you put your mind to.
5. Achievements will give your life meaning and worth, as actions speak much louder than words.
6. Always do what fulfills you the most and walk away from people keeping and putting you down.
7. Don't let failure dissuade you or break you, the greatest achievements are always built on top of a mountain of failures
8. Don't let greatness get to your head, always know who you are, where you stand on and what your capacities are. Be humble
9. Who cares what people think? People will think all sorts of things all the time, it's a stream of information that is nigh irrelevant to you, just live with that fact.
The only time it's important to pay attention, is when someone has something worthwhile to say.
10. Surround yourself with those that build you up and believe in you, for those that build this world, are those that believe themselves the most.
I think one other thing that should be said about masculinity is that crying does not make a guy weak or feminine. We're human. Sometimes stress and hardship gets to be too much, and a guy beating himself up because he allowed himself to feel human emotions to the point of crying only serves to create the behavior of toxic masculinity, that is to say having such a skewed idea of what masculinity is that it causes you to harm yourself and others. Crying over EVERYTHING is certainly not healthy, but again, moderation and balance, the middle ground as has been mentioned in the video, is what us guys should strive for.
Its not and it overly complicates things, "balance" is such a female concept. They are constantly balancing because they constantly bring themselves on the edge. As a man you must use reason and tought. You habe to think trough your emotions not feel trough them. Crying is not gonna do shit for you. If you do need to cry, do it by yourself. Then regroup think about it and solve it.
Maybe one ought to choose what is worth crying over, and when it is appropriate. Grief or joy both feel worthy to me, while frustration does not. And I can't find issue with retaining your composure when the situation calls for it, unless you don't revisit the emotions later to ensure they're processed properly. Bottled up negativity feels like avoiding one's responsibilities to me.
That being said, I don't think anyone has a right to your expressed emotions. If you haven't earned the trust of a man, he is under no obligation to make himself vulnerable to you.
@@DontCallMeFlash I don't disagree. There's times and places to try and have composure and when to let loose, but sometimes it can just be too much at once and, whether we want to or not, the floodgates open, and I don't think anyone should be too harshly judged for it when it's only human.
@@jas9574 Fair enough. As long as we don't allow whining to be covered as part of crying, I'm in favor of a more supportive and understanding outlook.
I really appreciate your writing and analysis. You're right, masculinity is having the strength to protect your loved ones and is displayed so elegantly in Aragorn's character
Tolkien just designed characters beyond quality.
Our heroes are grounded yet fantastical.
Human yet idealistic.
Man I love his work. Sooo good.
Beautifully said. Thank you for making this video. This is a very important message for today’s young people to hear.
“It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness, that is life.”
-Jean Luc Picard
That was the greatest motivational speech I have ever heard ! Thank you.
ngl we need both sam gamgee and aragorn masculinity. we need bravery and strength but also compassion and kindness
All men and women have both masculine and feminine aspects that are to be honored and appreciated.
Let us do what is necessary, not what is written. And protect those who cannot protect themselves until they find the courage to do so.
Thank you for this gem of a video.
May everyone find a little bit of Aragorn in himself.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Your approach to a very sensitive subject with such a level of sensitivity, thoughtfulness and precision whilst using the perfect example of the kind of man the modern world distinctly lacks is truly commendable
Finally convinced my 13 year old daughter to watch LOTR with my wife and I. I haven't watched them in quite some time and seem to have found a much deeper understanding of the characters and can really see and appreciate how well they are written this time around. I'll have her watch this to hopefully she will understand how amazing of a man Aragorn is.