As always guys, I seriously appreciate all of you! It's really exciting to see that as a community, we're already at 1500 members strong and going. I can't wait to continue to provide content, and improve on said content. If you want to see anything specifically - or have any questions at all; feel free to reach out/comment below with those suggestions/questions! Thank you again.
Good video. Just a couple of things, chi torp is 30% sprint, stacking twice. With your MotC stacks there isn’t much need to TP individual targets because BoK cleaves with the shadow boxing talent. BoK can generate up to 3 stacks per use without any stacks of teachings.
Man I love this video. You gave out every single bit of info there was needed. Give me one tip please. How do I deal with Fury Warriors. I just, for the life of me, can't.
Hey! I'm so glad this video has helped! Fury warriors are hard, especially in a 1v1 situation because they self-heal for SO much. Realistically my best advice is to just make them as annoyed as possible; spam Disable to Root them over and over off DR as much as possible, Disarm them when they pop Odyn's Fury, Teleport behind Pillars during their burst windows; play like you don't want to kill them, moreso that you want to be immortal vs them; eventually your cooldowns come back sooner then their defensives and you'll win. You just have to whittle them down slowly but sure. Start with high pressure and disarm them after your burst window so that they can't heal with bloodthirst - this will force a bunch of CDs; once you force the CDs just run and play super lame until your Serenity is back off CD, all you're doing is playing for Serenity burst windows - Next Serenity if you already forced their shield wall, you'll most likely kill very easily; just make sure again - you're disarming them after your big burst window so they can't heal themselves.
@@Grimlocked Thank you once more! I think I just need practice. I know what to do, it's just some shuffle games I get against a fury and an arms and that for me is just a loss. No matter how pixel perfect I play. That and the practice which I need a ton of, been pvping as monk for 3 days or so! XD
The whole guide was good, macros were very useful, but i wanted to see useful addons as well. I have some which i think they are a must but wanted to see if there are more.
I'll look into some more addons that could be very important - but just so you know, I currently use: Details BigDebuffs GladiusEx OmniBar OmniCD - Party Cooldown Tracker All of these are really nice to track DRs/who is in CD/what CDs your team/enemies have remaining.
Thanks! In my opinion, I REALLY like playing TWD (WW, Unholy DK, Hpal.) Some great comps to mention are: WW Arcane Mage Hpal WW Boomy Hpal/Hpriest WW Enhance Hpal/Hpriest WW Augmentation Hpal WW Spriest Hpal All of these feel pretty pretty solid. I have a bunch of fun having a DK grip a healer into my leg sweep and doing ridiculous amounts of AoE damage. Each comp has their benefits for sure!
Very nice video. Ty. I do have a question. Y don't u target with the Blizzard targeting keybinds instead of making targeting macros.? Is it better to make the macros?
Hey! No it isn't better to make the macros lol - a LONG time ago Blizz didn't have targeting keybinds so this was how you had to do it, and that's just how I've done it ever since actually LOL. So you can keybind it through blizz or just make the macros and keybind the macro. Either way it's super important though! Also thank you for watching. :)
I think it´s a good guide for how to set up a combo in an isolated situation. How do deal against mages or druids or any other ranged dmg dealer ? I lose more than 90% of arenas against such opponents. Once I have used my trinket, theres nothing I can do. In most games I can even get in melee range before i´m frozen or rooted or similar. I think we need some kind of charge mechanic in order to get in melee range. At least, i still haven´t figured out how to get in melee range. I would love a guide that shows how to deal with opponents in such a situation :)
Hey! Vs classes like mages, which is a pretty solid counter to us. We have to play really smart with our mobility and our cooldowns. It should be relatively impossible for a mage to kill you on its own with proper use of Transcendence teleports. BUT it's super important to walk as far to your target as possible on your mount in the beginning of the game, that way you don't immediately use some of your mobility just to connect, majority of the time this will cause them to use one of their root's. A lot of the time (depending on what I'm playing with) I utilize paralysis to connect with my target > paralyzing the healer. Trading Roll > Blink > Flying Serpent Kick > Alter Time teleport etc. All of that is super important. Keeping your disable slow up is also super important, as you can disable twice to Root your target - which in a lot of cases alone will cause a mage to blink. Most mages will play the blink that gets them out of stun > shimmer vs windwalker monks, because it will allow them to blink out of every one of our leg sweeps if they play it well; if you see a mage that's playing Shimmer (gives them the ability to blink while casting/off GCD but they can't blink out of stuns,) Be sure to paralysis them > a leg sweep and pop as much damage as possible; do that over and over again - don't let yourself be kited around, play the pillars outside of your legsweeps and damage. There's no point in chasing a mage around with shimmer outside of stuns because you'll never actually connect with a mage that trades mobility CDs properly. - I hope this helps! I can do a full guide on just this alone!
Today I have played around 20 2v2 and I am dead in less than 10 seconds in all of the games. Arms Warrs charge and use bladestorm and I am usually dead within a few seconds. Do you use a macro with all those attack in it ? I think the monk is fun, but it´s also the most frustrating class to play as it´s the most squishy class to play. Against frost mages, I am constantly either frozen, or have my movement reduced to where i rarely get in to melee before I am dead. @@Grimlocked Hunters kill me from range before I can do anything at all. Against rogues I rarely get out of stun before I am almost dead. I can do the burst you show in the video, but in an actual arena game, it´s a totallly different case. Against the dummy target, you can show the theoretical burst, but it´s like it has nothing to do, with a real arena 2v2 game.
Hey! All great points - You really really have to utilize your Transcendance Teleport well as a monk in order to live for long periods of time. You have some of the highest mobility in the game and if you aren't using it to kite melee/Line of Sight ranged DPS, you're playing wrong. Really try to play reserved and defensive as much as possible when you need to; Monks have some of the highest single target burst in the game currently and can easily 100-0 people in a single stun, so don't be afraid to run and wait for the perfect time to go for that big one shot. @@michaelhemmingsen3551
Hey! Transmog in the first half is this seasons current Elite set for monk, and my weapons are the one handed axes from Warlords of Draenor Challenge Mode which is no longer available sadly; Illusion enchanted with this seasons Duelist enchant. :)
Yea! This is exactly how it works - Just super confusing wording on the tooltip for no reason. It really should just say "Rising Sun Kick has a chance to deal an extra 7k physical dmg and restoring 1 chi." lol.
What are the best healers for ww in 2v2? My friend plays holy priest, any opinions on that healer specifically? Also what are the hard matchups for WW and why? Thank you ☺
Hey! I personally think hpriest, hpally and unironically rdru are the best healers for WW in 2v2. Rdru excels at 2v2s because of it's high CC, high sustain single target healing for cheap mana. Hpriest is amazing because it can help with sustain damage, as well as having an array of CDs to keep you offensive. Fear also pairs very well with para because their don't DR each other and both are 30 second CDs. Hpally is just a solid pick right now because of how strong it is, it has high burst, high sustain healing and has a long stun, a kick, and a blind - all of which don't DR with paralysis. I'd say your best option for a healer is hpriest or rdru personally; hpriest being the stronger of the 2 for a fresh healer, but someone that's played rdru for years will succeed highly in 2v2s w/ a WW specifically. The hardest match up for WW is most likely going to be any Sub Rogue style composition; once they have forced your trinket (the one that gets you out of CC.) You can easily die in a single set up even if you have CDs, because you have to predict when they're going to do their setup; and if you predict wrong, you die 100-0 in a single shadow dance.
I normally wouldn't do that purely because Strike of the Windlord is ON global, but nothing else in the Serenity macro is ON global so it shouldn't matter; just make sure you're pressing Strike of the Windlord in the off-goes when you don't have serenity. It's easy to forget if it isn't its own keybind. It isn't bad though because realistically when I press Serenity I take an extra half-second to swap my fingers to my SotW keybind to press it, because it's 95% of the time my next button press after serenity.
Also, are there abilities you don’t use? there’s too many abilities and not enough keybinds lol. Currently have transcendence, transfer, FSK all unbound. Is there any macros to combine specific abilities that would free up some binds for me?
I use pretty much EVERYTHING, though I have a really trashy keybind for Crackling Jade Lightning because it's kinda useless outside of building Hit Combo stacks. I also don't have Taunt keybound, though I think(?) you can use it to remove Spell Reflect from a warrior - I'm not 100% on this as it's super niche.
Both are great right now actually! I really enjoy playing with either on my Augvoker, the main composition I play is actually Augvoker Feral Hpal. With that being said - I personally enjoy playing WW monk WAY more then I enjoy playing feral. :) WW has crazy high sustain burst DPS and you can feel like you're actually outplaying your opponents with your movement. I hope this helps!
Destro will be conflaging and shadowburning you while in the air. Both instants with multiple charges. Not to mention instant incinerate procs. So MoK Isn't that effective for spell locking them as you described. It's just a fun spell for bg's unless you're very creative elsewhere like los'ing the enemy healer but it is niche.
I can say, WW monk absolutely chomps on destro locks currently. Conflag and Shadowburn have 2 charges, and each deal 40-60k damage. After those they have chaos bolts that do significant damage, but require set up to get them off because RoP, Paralysis, Leg Sweep, Lining, and Kicking exist. Being able to instantly port behind a pillar as a monk makes you relatively unkillable vs destro lock if you play the match up properly. The kick that knocks them in the air is great to make them waste mobility; but not being able to cast while in the air CC like fears is the most important part. Damage is really not that big of a deal.
I also forgot to mention that for some reason - MoK actually hits through bubble, bop, parry effects, evasion etc. Making it really interesting vs specific classes that utilize those defensives.
@@javierperezrodriguez4146 Interesting! I'm not sure if that'd be ideal for PvP because it would get stuck on the ToD because it wouldn't pass ToD until the ToD activates; which can be kind of rough haha.
Hey! You can get the PvP Set pieces by bringing a normal main piece of conquest PvP gear to the Catalyst. Here's a link that will show you where on the map it is! blizzardwatch.com/2023/06/13/revival-catalyst-patch-10-1/
Funny enough, I strafe using Z and C, I don't have backpeddle keybound which is semi an issue now adays slightly, and I walk forward by pressing my left and right mouse button down at the same time. It's honestly just a ridiculous habit of mine. :)
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As always guys, I seriously appreciate all of you! It's really exciting to see that as a community, we're already at 1500 members strong and going. I can't wait to continue to provide content, and improve on said content. If you want to see anything specifically - or have any questions at all; feel free to reach out/comment below with those suggestions/questions! Thank you again.
Amazing video - huge effort to make this. Thank you!
Thank you for watching! :) I really really appreciate your comment.
New to monk, boosted mine to level 60 so this guide will help me very much. I usually just play warrior prot so this will be new
I'm SO glad to hear! I think you'll really enjoy monk, it's super fun and sooo much damage.
Good video.
Just a couple of things, chi torp is 30% sprint, stacking twice. With your MotC stacks there isn’t much need to TP individual targets because BoK cleaves with the shadow boxing talent. BoK can generate up to 3 stacks per use without any stacks of teachings.
I actually figured out that about the shadow boxing BoKs shortly after this video LOL, super cool! Thanks for the comment man!
amazing guide man, thanks for the hard work
Thank you so much for your support! :)
huge guide, thanks brother.
Thank you for watching! I hope this helps. :)
AMAZING :D
Thanks for watching! I'll come out with an updated one come 10.2 which is this Tuesday! Wooo!
Man I love this video. You gave out every single bit of info there was needed.
Give me one tip please. How do I deal with Fury Warriors. I just, for the life of me, can't.
Hey! I'm so glad this video has helped!
Fury warriors are hard, especially in a 1v1 situation because they self-heal for SO much. Realistically my best advice is to just make them as annoyed as possible; spam Disable to Root them over and over off DR as much as possible, Disarm them when they pop Odyn's Fury, Teleport behind Pillars during their burst windows; play like you don't want to kill them, moreso that you want to be immortal vs them; eventually your cooldowns come back sooner then their defensives and you'll win. You just have to whittle them down slowly but sure.
Start with high pressure and disarm them after your burst window so that they can't heal with bloodthirst - this will force a bunch of CDs; once you force the CDs just run and play super lame until your Serenity is back off CD, all you're doing is playing for Serenity burst windows - Next Serenity if you already forced their shield wall, you'll most likely kill very easily; just make sure again - you're disarming them after your big burst window so they can't heal themselves.
@@Grimlocked big appreciation man. I'll try my best!
@@garytheviking Just lmk if you need more assistance, I'd gladly sit in game with you and try to talk you through the motions :)
@@Grimlocked Thank you once more! I think I just need practice. I know what to do, it's just some shuffle games I get against a fury and an arms and that for me is just a loss. No matter how pixel perfect I play.
That and the practice which I need a ton of, been pvping as monk for 3 days or so! XD
@@garytheviking Oh yea you got time :) You'll get far better with trading CDs and what not, it will become pretty easy for you. I promise :D
The whole guide was good, macros were very useful, but i wanted to see useful addons as well. I have some which i think they are a must but wanted to see if there are more.
I'll look into some more addons that could be very important - but just so you know, I currently use:
Details
BigDebuffs
GladiusEx
OmniBar
OmniCD - Party Cooldown Tracker
All of these are really nice to track DRs/who is in CD/what CDs your team/enemies have remaining.
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Thank you so much for watching and subbing! I really appreciate that man.
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Thanks!
What are best comps for WW for 3s now mate? :) Amazing guide!
Thanks! In my opinion, I REALLY like playing TWD (WW, Unholy DK, Hpal.)
Some great comps to mention are:
WW Arcane Mage Hpal
WW Boomy Hpal/Hpriest
WW Enhance Hpal/Hpriest
WW Augmentation Hpal
WW Spriest Hpal
All of these feel pretty pretty solid. I have a bunch of fun having a DK grip a healer into my leg sweep and doing ridiculous amounts of AoE damage. Each comp has their benefits for sure!
@@Grimlocked Mate you're a GOAT thanks for the quick reply!
Bro just is insane at every spec. Noted 😅
Thanks! I'm trying to just cover as much ground as possible for the PvP community. :P
Very nice video. Ty. I do have a question. Y don't u target with the Blizzard targeting keybinds instead of making targeting macros.? Is it better to make the macros?
Hey! No it isn't better to make the macros lol - a LONG time ago Blizz didn't have targeting keybinds so this was how you had to do it, and that's just how I've done it ever since actually LOL.
So you can keybind it through blizz or just make the macros and keybind the macro. Either way it's super important though!
Also thank you for watching. :)
I think it´s a good guide for how to set up a combo in an isolated situation.
How do deal against mages or druids or any other ranged dmg dealer ?
I lose more than 90% of arenas against such opponents.
Once I have used my trinket, theres nothing I can do.
In most games I can even get in melee range before i´m frozen or rooted or similar.
I think we need some kind of charge mechanic in order to get in melee range.
At least, i still haven´t figured out how to get in melee range.
I would love a guide that shows how to deal with opponents in such a situation :)
Hey! Vs classes like mages, which is a pretty solid counter to us. We have to play really smart with our mobility and our cooldowns. It should be relatively impossible for a mage to kill you on its own with proper use of Transcendence teleports. BUT it's super important to walk as far to your target as possible on your mount in the beginning of the game, that way you don't immediately use some of your mobility just to connect, majority of the time this will cause them to use one of their root's. A lot of the time (depending on what I'm playing with) I utilize paralysis to connect with my target > paralyzing the healer. Trading Roll > Blink > Flying Serpent Kick > Alter Time teleport etc. All of that is super important. Keeping your disable slow up is also super important, as you can disable twice to Root your target - which in a lot of cases alone will cause a mage to blink.
Most mages will play the blink that gets them out of stun > shimmer vs windwalker monks, because it will allow them to blink out of every one of our leg sweeps if they play it well; if you see a mage that's playing Shimmer (gives them the ability to blink while casting/off GCD but they can't blink out of stuns,) Be sure to paralysis them > a leg sweep and pop as much damage as possible; do that over and over again - don't let yourself be kited around, play the pillars outside of your legsweeps and damage. There's no point in chasing a mage around with shimmer outside of stuns because you'll never actually connect with a mage that trades mobility CDs properly. - I hope this helps! I can do a full guide on just this alone!
Today I have played around 20 2v2 and I am dead in less than 10 seconds in all of the games. Arms Warrs charge and use bladestorm and I am usually dead within a few seconds.
Do you use a macro with all those attack in it ?
I think the monk is fun, but it´s also the most frustrating class to play as it´s the most squishy class to play.
Against frost mages, I am constantly either frozen, or have my movement reduced to where i rarely get in to melee before I am dead. @@Grimlocked
Hunters kill me from range before I can do anything at all.
Against rogues I rarely get out of stun before I am almost dead.
I can do the burst you show in the video, but in an actual arena game, it´s a totallly different case.
Against the dummy target, you can show the theoretical burst, but it´s like it has nothing to do, with a real arena 2v2 game.
Hey! All great points - You really really have to utilize your Transcendance Teleport well as a monk in order to live for long periods of time. You have some of the highest mobility in the game and if you aren't using it to kite melee/Line of Sight ranged DPS, you're playing wrong.
Really try to play reserved and defensive as much as possible when you need to; Monks have some of the highest single target burst in the game currently and can easily 100-0 people in a single stun, so don't be afraid to run and wait for the perfect time to go for that big one shot.
@@michaelhemmingsen3551
what’s the transmog in the first half of the video? it’s dope
Hey! Transmog in the first half is this seasons current Elite set for monk, and my weapons are the one handed axes from Warlords of Draenor Challenge Mode which is no longer available sadly; Illusion enchanted with this seasons Duelist enchant. :)
Glory of the dawn says like it triggers another but it says for 7k physical dmg not another rising sun kick in full power
Yea! This is exactly how it works - Just super confusing wording on the tooltip for no reason. It really should just say "Rising Sun Kick has a chance to deal an extra 7k physical dmg and restoring 1 chi." lol.
@@Grimlocked 2 days after watching this finally achieved 2.1 for enchant mog :D gg for guide
Absolutely insane progress brother congrats! @@ukapaliska
What are the best healers for ww in 2v2? My friend plays holy priest, any opinions on that healer specifically? Also what are the hard matchups for WW and why? Thank you ☺
Hey! I personally think hpriest, hpally and unironically rdru are the best healers for WW in 2v2.
Rdru excels at 2v2s because of it's high CC, high sustain single target healing for cheap mana.
Hpriest is amazing because it can help with sustain damage, as well as having an array of CDs to keep you offensive. Fear also pairs very well with para because their don't DR each other and both are 30 second CDs.
Hpally is just a solid pick right now because of how strong it is, it has high burst, high sustain healing and has a long stun, a kick, and a blind - all of which don't DR with paralysis.
I'd say your best option for a healer is hpriest or rdru personally; hpriest being the stronger of the 2 for a fresh healer, but someone that's played rdru for years will succeed highly in 2v2s w/ a WW specifically.
The hardest match up for WW is most likely going to be any Sub Rogue style composition; once they have forced your trinket (the one that gets you out of CC.) You can easily die in a single set up even if you have CDs, because you have to predict when they're going to do their setup; and if you predict wrong, you die 100-0 in a single shadow dance.
Sorry for the long long message - I hope this helps!
@Grimlocked can you add strike of the windlord into serenity macro? or will that make the macro work incorrectly?
I normally wouldn't do that purely because Strike of the Windlord is ON global, but nothing else in the Serenity macro is ON global so it shouldn't matter; just make sure you're pressing Strike of the Windlord in the off-goes when you don't have serenity. It's easy to forget if it isn't its own keybind.
It isn't bad though because realistically when I press Serenity I take an extra half-second to swap my fingers to my SotW keybind to press it, because it's 95% of the time my next button press after serenity.
Also, are there abilities you don’t use? there’s too many abilities and not enough keybinds lol. Currently have transcendence, transfer, FSK all unbound. Is there any macros to combine specific abilities that would free up some binds for me?
I use pretty much EVERYTHING, though I have a really trashy keybind for Crackling Jade Lightning because it's kinda useless outside of building Hit Combo stacks.
I also don't have Taunt keybound, though I think(?) you can use it to remove Spell Reflect from a warrior - I'm not 100% on this as it's super niche.
Hey. Im split between playing ww or feral. In pvp What is better?
Both are great right now actually! I really enjoy playing with either on my Augvoker, the main composition I play is actually Augvoker Feral Hpal.
With that being said - I personally enjoy playing WW monk WAY more then I enjoy playing feral. :) WW has crazy high sustain burst DPS and you can feel like you're actually outplaying your opponents with your movement. I hope this helps!
anyone know why the Ring of peace one doesnt work for me? got it set up with @cursor and everything but doesnt seem to work
Hey this is the exact macro - /cast [@cursor] Ring of Peace
Maybe the brackets are missing?
What add on are you using for enemy arena bars?
GladiusEX :)
Do you use whirling dragon punch?
I do yes! It's super good for aoe cleaving people down.
Is this still accurate in 10.2?
Destro will be conflaging and shadowburning you while in the air. Both instants with multiple charges. Not to mention instant incinerate procs. So MoK Isn't that effective for spell locking them as you described. It's just a fun spell for bg's unless you're very creative elsewhere like los'ing the enemy healer but it is niche.
I can say, WW monk absolutely chomps on destro locks currently. Conflag and Shadowburn have 2 charges, and each deal 40-60k damage. After those they have chaos bolts that do significant damage, but require set up to get them off because RoP, Paralysis, Leg Sweep, Lining, and Kicking exist. Being able to instantly port behind a pillar as a monk makes you relatively unkillable vs destro lock if you play the match up properly. The kick that knocks them in the air is great to make them waste mobility; but not being able to cast while in the air CC like fears is the most important part. Damage is really not that big of a deal.
I also forgot to mention that for some reason - MoK actually hits through bubble, bop, parry effects, evasion etc. Making it really interesting vs specific classes that utilize those defensives.
How to get this transmog?😮
Hey! This mog is for being 1800+ in any rated bracket as a monk this season (Obsidian) :)
Any ToD macro?
I don't have one honestly, I'm not sure if there is one maybe, but I don't use it if there is.
@@Grimlocked thanks! I think I saw somewhere a cast sequence macro somewhere but thanks anyway
@@javierperezrodriguez4146 Interesting! I'm not sure if that'd be ideal for PvP because it would get stuck on the ToD because it wouldn't pass ToD until the ToD activates; which can be kind of rough haha.
How do I get the PvP Set pieces ?
Hey! You can get the PvP Set pieces by bringing a normal main piece of conquest PvP gear to the Catalyst.
Here's a link that will show you where on the map it is!
blizzardwatch.com/2023/06/13/revival-catalyst-patch-10-1/
@@Grimlocked tnx!!
Of course! If you have any other questions - feel free to write up another comment or join the community Discord! :) I hope this helps.@@kgjdhkgd
No hate but, how tf do you move ? You use all keybindings, that I could imagine to use for movement, on something else.
Funny enough, I strafe using Z and C, I don't have backpeddle keybound which is semi an issue now adays slightly, and I walk forward by pressing my left and right mouse button down at the same time. It's honestly just a ridiculous habit of mine. :)
@@Grimlocked holy shit lmao, thats wild man
I have pretty big hands LOL Just insane that I've kept it this way forever. @@f1ng0rz
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