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Does Life Makeover have Black options(skin tone, facial features, and hair), as well as different body shapes(like plus-sized and stuff?). Because all the characters I'm seeing in the clips are slender pale-skinned girls with super straight or wavy hair, and that disappoints me. I understand that the game was made in China, but if it's to have any international appeal then it needs to have some actual diversity.
@@imthebossmermaid3648 Yes, there are many skin tone options and different body shapes. I wouldn't say there's options for overweight girlies, but you can definitely make the avatar a size 14 or so.
I hate that the grown ass 50-60 year-old men in the writers' room think that the only way to make teenage girls is to make them pine after and stalk a boy. It's REALLY creepy.
Oh you can just TELL that he was a stalker. The way he romantizes marinette's obssesion in the show, it's like he's projecting I feel so bad with whoever had to deal with this guy in the past
"We give miraculous ladybug a new ladybug" Well I didn’t actually remove Marinette but I did replace her with Chloe because an asshole protagonist with a huge redemption is much more interesting Also I changed the ladybug miraculous to be a firefly because that’s more fun to design
Agreed like I was thinking that if I were to rewrite miraculous(which is never), I wouldn't want anything to do with Marinette solely because she has no relevance in this story other than becoming Ladybug. As far as I see, Adrien would be way better as a protagonist. And Chloe being Adrien's partner would make for a very fun and in depth journey for both of them. Edit: Also let there just be no romance. Romance is always the crux if not taken seriously.
Honestly, deleting Marinette is friggin’ hilarious. Especially since she’s effectively Astruc’s fictional daughter with a woman he had a crush on at some point that he’s living vicariously through. My personal hot take is that Ghost Force and Miraculous should’ve swapped run times.
@@carimeslockdownedtree2654 i can’t remember where i found out about this, but apparently marinette’s parents are based off of astruc and one of his exes? idk 🤷♀️
@@carimeslockdownedtree2654 On The Immaturity of Thomas Astruc Tumblr page (which catalogs quite a bit of the things he's said and done) under the section Other Stuff Astruc Has Said Online called 'The Time He Said He Based Marinette's Parents off Himself and One of his Former Girlfriends', when asked on Twitter whether Marinette's father's name had something to do with him, he replied: "Yep. At that time, my girlfriend was a french/chinese girl named Sabine. So It was as if Marinette was our virtual child." He's said a lot of other stuff including downplaying Marinette's obsession with Adrien and implying that he wasn't racist because a few of the main heroes in his show were people of color.
It’s a shame Marinette went through such awful characterization-when I first watched the show I was able to relate to her clumsiness, awkwardness, and longing for affection. But then Astruc decided to give her so many flaws while refusing to give her the character development she needed. If there’s anyone to blame for why everyone hates her, it should be him.
The problem with miraculous is that the show had so much potential to be great, the concept is cool, the set up was good, but they kept writing themselves into corners
Fr!! Like, they gave her so many flaws, and that's fine! Flaws are what makes characters relatable and more realistic. HOWEVER, they didn't treat Marinette's flaws as flaws, but just treated them as little quirks and even romanticized her stalking? 😭 They also refuse to give her any type of consequences to her actions most of the time bc obviously the protag can't POSSIBLY be in the wrong
@@ProjectKEJMI like her flaws and relate to some of them, I don’t like how the show doesn’t treat them that way. I’ve experienced limerence before so I relate to yandere characters that are obsessed with one person, but I wanna see the story of how they learn to get over it because that would be relatable. I wanna see her called out and become horrified at herself and how creepy she has been when she realizes the extent of what she’s done. Like move on from her obsession and then look back and think oh my god I really did this oh fuck that was creepy and not okay. I think she should have ended up with Lucas instead of Adrien and should have had her obsession fade away so she can grow as a person and grapple with the fact that what she did in stalking Adrien was really not okay.
i feel like ladybug is worse than mari simply bc of her attitude as a hero, i remember watching miraculous as a kid and always getting weirded out by how she acted as soon as she transformed
It always felt like she was a completely different person and I honestly don’t understand the reasoning behind her huge personality shift when she put on the mask
@@saltyapple she would be so passive agressive with both civilians and villains (who are just civilians who need extra help!!) PLUS chat noir.. she'd be so annoying irl
@@honeybun8823 she's so much nicer as marinette, willing to help and make friends with everyone, but as soon as she can be an actual hero she becomes a huge asshole?? it does NOT add up
It could kinda make sense that Jamie’s superhero form thing is called ladybird if she’s from Britain and moved to New Paris to live w her extended family after her sisters death, but it would mean she’d have to be British😭😭
Miraculous Ladybug could have been a fire show if the romance stuff was completely cut out in favor of their being a greater focus on character development. Adrien deserved to be in a better show. Blonde boy with an evil dad where have I seen that seen that before where it's actually pulled off better.
Romance itself isn't the problem, the problem is Media writting romance. Instead of doing something simple like "We always together cuz we love each other", the writers always wants to make HUGEST MESS of romance they can, filled with awkward moments that doesn't progress neither the story nor the the romance itself. And if wasn't good enough, the writers drag this thing as far as they can. But I have to give Miraculous credits for doing something new. In contrast with other shows where the romance stays in status quo or it's actually goes foward, Miraculous has manage to DESTROY the main couple, not like "they don't have chemistry" but Marinette and Andrien's relationship is literally going down hill, they are distancing from each other. I think I never had seen a show where the main couple relationship goes below zero😂.
@@KeylaKey________ what's worse is that the side ships are better than the main ship. Well, at least the Luka x Marinette (the only problem is that they ofc had to make Marinette be thinking about Adrien and have anxiety about being Ladybug because otherwise, Luka is the best match for her)
I’ve always wanted to redesign miraculous characters (for fun y’know), but there are SO MANY problems I have with the show. It’s just a big can of worms I don’t wanna open.
Yeah! Everything I see a miraculous redesign/rewrite I'm like "I wanna do that" but then I stop to think about it and it's like "alright, where do I start to make it work.... oh sh*t"
“Hey everyone! Today I’m redesigning Miraculous Ladybug characters! But before we begin…” *checks watch and looks at it for a few seconds* “…” *gunshot sound* “Ah, now we can start! We’re gonna start with Marinette’s replacement!”
Canon Marinette is so stalkerish. Even with apprently the recent plot that explains it, it still feels off. Her having PTSD for how bad the bullying was is interesting tho
I've given up on watching canon show and instead reading fanon comic instead. I would recommend the Feralnette series by bigfatbreak. Also I think the main ship is Mari and Felix(closer to trailer felix but still different, they are also a ballet dancer :) )
That episode also makes other characters less likeable. For example, Kim? He didn't seem like the type of person who would endanger someone's life over a "prank" but that's what happened in the episode. Kim could have still worked as the reason why Marinette has trust issues. Like that would explain why she got irritated so much with Chat Noir. But that's not what they're using Kim for 😅
Honestly, cringe shaming is stupid. Sometimes making unusual decisions while drawing and designing the concept is fun and learning something from them shouldn't be punished. It doesn't hurt anyone, unlike public humiliation. Your encouragement of doing things which are usually frowned upon or just unpopular, complemented with nice delivery and a beautiful artstyle, is what initially made me subscribe and, honestly, take some inspiration.
@@inkiio I love the art style and all your redesigns they're gorgeous!! But quick question what was the first song you used in your video when you started doing the sketching it sounds so familiar but I can't remember what it's called 🥲🤌
with you turning paris into new paris to avoid euro, you missed a perfect pun! the currency could be "dolleur", which is dollar + euro but is pronounced like saying dollar with a french accent
i think i’ll keep lucky charm, but repairing everything after an akuma significantly lowers the stakes and definitely makes her overpowered, so i’ll probably take away that aspect
Yeah, honestly, it would've been nice if that was actually addressed properly in the show, like that being the main reason why Cat Noir is considered the "sidekick" or something similar or if they wanted there to be less disconnect between the two Adrien's flaw with not having listened to his kwami whenever he started made it so that he didn't realize he had a power he *greatly needed* or at least would've been helpful to have and for example Plagg didn't want to get interrupted again whenever explaining which I think would've been a really cool plot device to have hanging over Adrien's head in the show because 1 it'd show the mistrust Plagg has in his holders after being in the hands of ones who went rouge, 2 it could show Adrien as a much hastier character then what's shown to us and explain Chat Noir's character better, and 3 if they were fighting an akuma that had needed the power it could show the long term consequences of having to deal with the fact that unlike Marinette he wasn't taking it seriously which would've been that the power he needed was unknown to him rather than him just being tossed around like a rice sack in their first battle.
Oh, no. Marinette is in fact a bad character. I'll say it of you won't, I'm no coward. Also, I love Jamie already, just a cute little lass, doing her best. And look Jamie and Lyla are like proper character foils, you know literative devices.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian First of all "Adrizoe"🤣🤣🤣 then yes she is a good character especially in r standard of series episodes due to her personality and her maturity in the story but hey I'm talking to someone who likes hazbin hotel type series with a pedophile creator
Highly recommend the movie if you haven't seen it yet. It seems to be a retelling or alternate universe or something, and aside from the beautiful animation, the characters are great. I was rooting for Mari a lot more than I do when I watch the actual show
Bro, it's SUCH an American thing to change the seating of a show to USA or a America/Other Place fictional thing and I hate it, months have passed and I still can't believe theres not a lot of comments complaining about it. Being a European, I think it's so nice to have shows that does not happen in the US for once and then the Americans came and go like "Fuck it, it's America now" I saw it happening more than once and it really makes me angry
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO U right man.............. THE AMERICASS SUCKSSS!!! Like I WANT europe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to have more credificationnnnnnnnn....... France is important tooo mannnnn............ They people sockkkkkkkkkkk............ suckkkkkkkkkkkk........... Im smoking sosoooooooo much weed and stufffffffffff............... europeeeeeeeeee
Dude, I get your mad and all, but they said it’s like an Au, meaning things will be different, if you don’t like it, why don’t you make your own au. I’m sure you have some good ideas
@queenbee3561 I make a lot of AU's and I search a lot for that, so it bothers me that SOME Americans don't make effort to study a little bit about other cultures or other countries for example. I'm not saying that it's inkiio case, but seriously, that makes me very frustrated.
This is so random but when I got halfway through the video I realised something massive, for the past few weeks I’ve been horrendously depressed, this video made me feel like myself more, finally I feel like drawing again, getting up and getting my life back on track. Genuinely love your work and your take on miraculous, thank you sm for making content 🩵
id like to think that one of the things that would make them friends would be a moment when they're competing in something Lila loses, freaks out and -- would say something to her like "Everyone has things that they're good at and things they're bad at, i'm sure you have some of each as well. We all have things we handle well and things we don't."
Honestly part of the fun of having ocs is to fix any grievances in a story you dislike,and I have been doing that with my ocs for years now. You sharing your oc and explaining how she would affect the story really made me happy that I'm not the only one who does so. Cringe is dead, or that's what they say I think.
Being someone who likes Marinette, I can agree that there are some unlikeable things about her. Like her attitude as Ladybug. I HATE how she treated Cat Noir in some scenes. And also how she literally never shared anything about herself as ladybug. I know that she had to keep her identity secret in case Hawkmoth ever somehow found out, but she was just SO over the top about it. The fact that she like, NEVER shared her emotions with Cat Noir just made their relationship not as close (in a professional way) than it could've been throughout the show. Also I hate how Marinette literally stalks adrien.
@@PinkandRedLover I mean she's gotten better, but I was referring to Marinette in the beginning of the show. You are right though, and she does get a lot better personality wise towards the end of the show!
Most of them are on Twitter. And throw tantrums when someone talks badly about her. It’s really pathetic honestly. How many people will try to defend Marinette. I’m glad I hate Marinette. She deserves the hate.
An OC Have for miraculous is a character named June! She is 1 year younger than Marinette (school year wise) and she loves music and art, and takes art classes (she would be friends with Marc). She would have been Lila or Alex’s cousin (I’m indecisive). Her role in the show is to basically point out all the things ladybug’s (tho she doesn’t exist anymore lol) mistake’s, kind of an opposite to Chloe who always point out what MARINETTE does wrong, she would point out ladybugs wrong doings (so ladybug can improve) For example: all the damage she does (I have a little headcanon that the “miraculous ladybug” only fixes damage DIRECTLY caused by the villain, where things like; traffic delay, damage that the villain didn’t DIRECTLY do but was caused by the villain, etc., all stays the same). They would eventually be offered a miraculous but I think she would have declined or smth (I think she would take it just to protect people) (Also she does NOT think she would be a “better superhero than ladybug” (tho she probs would XD) she’s just pointing out the obvious flaws that everyone is ignoring yk?) Yeah that’s kinda it for now LOL SORRY ABOUT THE OC DUMP
Oh my god just taking Marinette out of the story completely is the funniest “fix it” I’ve heard out of the fandom so far 😭thank you for making my week lmao
i did basically the same thing with my miraculous au(idk why i made an au it's a thing for me now) but i just kinda trashed the villain|goodbye creepy old guy that hires ppl to steal teenagers jewelry
i always though ML would do better with a chiller MC and even as a kid, I hated the way Ladybug/Marinette treated both Cat Noir/Adrien in both contexts. As heroes, Ladybug is so dismissive of Cat Noir, it's infuriating. And as civilians, Marinette treats Adrien like an exotic animal or something. The stalking is weird; the writers def could have done the whole anxious girl watching her crush way better. Also, New Paris? It's giving San Fransokyo from BH6 and I love it.
Words can’t describe how much I love that Jamie’s interest is ballet! I LOVE ballet! I love how it’s graceful and pretty, but also takes a lot of effort to perfect! I wish that we had more characters who are into ballet!! 💙
I don't see a problem with giving up Marinette. But I really hate that they decided to move the action from France to the US-France. God, guys, not every story has to be about America, stop erasing other nationalities 😭
For how they get there miraclous maybe you can have the kwami appear to them in a i choose you to be my holder sort of way its give them more to do than just being floating Jiminy crickets
Lucky,idk if your into doing more hero designs. But I think it would be cool if you made super hero's themed around different zodiacs. Maybe inspired by the lady bug franchise but making it your own thing. Just an idea that may be fun if you liked making the super hero's in this. I just think it would be cool to see the idea of zodiac inspired hero designs more,the only one's I really know about are Miraculous Lady bug and Zodiac knights.
OMG I LOVE JAIMEEEE SHE’S ADORABLE!!! And I love them bonding on their dead female guardian figures lol Also, with Jaime’s current design, I currently imagine Adrien as having a lot of light reds and pinks with green accents to match… which idk if you’d want, considering you said you’re cool with his current design and idk if it’d fit, but I just thought I might share lol Just wanted to say once more how much I love Jaime compared to Marinette… as a kid, her constant stalking of Adrien absolutely horrified me and she gave me a LOT of second-hand embarrassment… I’m much more happy with the concept of Jaime being there to add some sense to this show. I like Lila’s design too, I love a manipulative antagonist, I love the idea of having more than JUST the akumatized villains that you can’t learn to like or empathize with or watch them as they gain development…. At all… and her having a sister, that’s adorable (and a possible catalyst for drama if Lila ever reforms), and I love her clothes, they’re pretty I don’t like Miraculous that much but I liked the video, so sorry if I talked too much 😅
I'm vibing with this energy. Like, YEAH, you go replace the main character! What are these people going to do? I like your redesigns they are very pretty :)
Stawwp I was talking to a friend about doing this for a good while and they called the idea stupid ✋😭 I'm glad you posted this though, you're way more brave than me on that 💀
Thank you for doing videos with your oc x canon, I started getting more comfortable because of you (and some other creators but still) putting my ocs and even shipping them with canon characters. So thank you for that and also love your artstyle and ideas.
i fell off of mlp the millisecond the diary thing came around, when I was a kid i watched it for the fights and stuff, i watched it for marinette using the other miraculi to her advantage?? i LOVED the lore, but then they introduced the diary thing and i immediately exited
You should honestly become a worker that makes miraculous ladybug! These characters are soooooo amazing to me. Somehow, these characters are living in my head rent free lol.
When it comes to stuff like this I far prefer replacing the whole cast rather then just one. Idk, just gives more to work with if that makes sense? Just personal preference I guess, I've never felt very interested in shipping ocs with canon cast, always felt weird for me. Always been pretty strictly oc x oc or canon x canon. That's not me saying other people can't do what they want of course, it's just a show lol. When it comes to Marinette specifically though, in a way i blame the writers a lot more for how the cast turned out because they don't know how to write teenagers coherently in the slightest. And they think cringe = funny when the cringe they write makes me want to rip my hair out. Like the statue scene. Took me an hour. An. Hour. *And then they try to retcon that as a good thing, like no, that sucked, why'd you make me see that again.*
@@Bee_814 I also really dislike it, even though i'm in a lot of fandoms where oc X canon isn't just popular, its almost mandatory ( Dragon age, yay) I think its because you can kinda see the hand of the author a little too much when its oc x canon, like, a LOT of those stories just aren't written with an audience in mind. The authors tend to know their ocs inside and out so will cut corners in writing that normally only works for characters that everyone knows really well. also sometimes they're just REALLY cringe
I…don’t know how I feel about Chloe being replaced with Lila. Especially since it was CHLOE who came first before Lila and it was CHLOE who had more potential of a reformation arc than Lila ever did. But it’s not my video so I can’t do much about it. ….I also don’t know how I feel about you lowkey hinting at replacing Alya as Rena Rouge….with Lila (and Maggie). (Seriously what’s with this fandom and not letting Alya cook?) But regardless, the story itself is interesting and I do like the redesign for Lila.
I hate Marinette. I hate how she was handled. I hate her lack of development as a character. I hate that she steals the spotlight from every other character. I hate that she is favoured over Adrien. I hate her insufferability. I hate that her stalker behaviour is glorified. I hate that her mistakes are not treated as mistakes. I hate that Astruc thinks she's perfect. I hate that he doesn't see how badly she is written. I hate how calling her a bad protagonist is considered 'sexist.' I hate that she is a role-model little girls are told to look up to. I hate how much of an insult she is. I hate that these awful writers don't care to humanise her. I hate Marinette.
This is honestly such a power move, good for you 😂 The only thing I disagree with is changing Paris to New Paris. I understand the urge to put characters in more familiar environment, but I feel like there's so much american superhero stuff that changing purely european setting is not very fun :( P.S.: omg very fem she/they bi non-binary character with long brown hair, she's me fr :DD
After looking at some comment I can agree, that this whole movie is just a power move 👏 Also your Lila art is gorgeous! I love how you drew and colored her hair as Volpina!
Hi, I honestly love the idea of kicking out Marinette out of the show or at lest downgrading her to rival/bully and replacing her with other girl. If this pathetic thing could ever be saved it has to be reworked from the ground up without Tomas Astruc, and Marinette is already way too tainted as a stalker and certified Mary Sue (she is the reason why I passed on seeing the movie, I know that Jeremy did everything to rewrite her and make her likable again, but after show I am unable to see her in any other light). I even wanted to do that for fanfic I was planing, but due to my love-hate relationship with the show I never ended up writing it. I made two versions of my entry the first character was, sweet, but very shy and timid Solange, a girl who Adrien had been online friends with, vented to and geeked out with for years, who now had to move to Paris, because of her mother's work, she would take over black cat miraculous, while Andien would become Mr. Bug full time, and second was bit alternative, aloof and cold Meili, Marinette's long lost twin who her parents put up for adoption, because back then they coundn't afford two kids, but because Marinette's parents discover her during school music competition, and her guardian died leaving her in an orphanage they were only to happy to take her in, which doesn't go over well finally giving this sickly perfect family some conflict, Mei would take over as Ladybug and she and Adrian would bond over their bad lives and Adrien both as Chat and normally would help to convince her to give other people a chance since she is quite a recluse and doesn't trust people because of her past. In both versions character know about each other, with Solonge it's even Adrien who convinces her and new guardian to give her miraculous.
girl, you're not the only one who HATES Marinette/Ladybug! I hate her too (o tho, I didn't delete her from my rewrite, I just completely rewrote her) You are not alone in this.
Part 2. I need a part 2. Girl you have a really solid story here and I want to hear more about it. I LOVE this au so much. As a person who found miraculous very boring this has peaked my instrest as something i would watch. The art is so beautiful you did such a good job. I love Jamie with all my heart.
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Does Life Makeover have Black options(skin tone, facial features, and hair), as well as different body shapes(like plus-sized and stuff?). Because all the characters I'm seeing in the clips are slender pale-skinned girls with super straight or wavy hair, and that disappoints me. I understand that the game was made in China, but if it's to have any international appeal then it needs to have some actual diversity.
Inkiio should stop putting sponsored segments in her videos.
@@imthebossmermaid3648 Yes, there are many skin tone options and different body shapes. I wouldn't say there's options for overweight girlies, but you can definitely make the avatar a size 14 or so.
@@rayganparksmitchell and how do you want her to eat and pay the rent?
I hate that the grown ass 50-60 year-old men in the writers' room think that the only way to make teenage girls is to make them pine after and stalk a boy. It's REALLY creepy.
Marinette is a French Pucca :D
@@user-zg1wm7fj9tPucca is actually dating the boy she “stalks”^^
Oh you can just TELL that he was a stalker. The way he romantizes marinette's obssesion in the show, it's like he's projecting
I feel so bad with whoever had to deal with this guy in the past
And also,if marinette and adriens roles were reversed then... People wouldn't like the show as much
That's Ass-truc and The Boyz for you
Mari definitely has haters lol, mostly because of the stalking Adrien situation.
Yeah lmao
:Same but I just hate marinate in person because her desgin isn't that good but not bad but her personality as well I just can't TwT:
And even if Marinette literally followed Adrien to another fucking country. Some people still say she's not a stalker. That's some bs right there
@joeljohansson3615 :I get in some people think it's cute if it was written different but in that case it was so creepy:
Oh yeah I totally despise her idk how people can like her tbh
"We give miraculous ladybug a new ladybug"
Well I didn’t actually remove Marinette but I did replace her with Chloe because an asshole protagonist with a huge redemption is much more interesting
Also I changed the ladybug miraculous to be a firefly because that’s more fun to design
Honestly Chloe as the protag and just getting to grow as a person while learning to be a hero could’ve been so interesting.
Yea but thanks to Astruct, that's a idea in the trash
Agreed like I was thinking that if I were to rewrite miraculous(which is never), I wouldn't want anything to do with Marinette solely because she has no relevance in this story other than becoming Ladybug.
As far as I see, Adrien would be way better as a protagonist. And Chloe being Adrien's partner would make for a very fun and in depth journey for both of them.
Edit: Also let there just be no romance. Romance is always the crux if not taken seriously.
@@taytay1258 For real you'd pretty much just have change the amount of screen time she gets and she would just be Adrien's other love interest.
Omg i love that i wish this was the actual show or someone made a video abt it
Honestly, deleting Marinette is friggin’ hilarious. Especially since she’s effectively Astruc’s fictional daughter with a woman he had a crush on at some point that he’s living vicariously through.
My personal hot take is that Ghost Force and Miraculous should’ve swapped run times.
She's What. Where did you get that from I'm curious
everything i learn about astruc makes me go HUH
@carimeslockdownedtree2654 Same here! Really curious lol
@@carimeslockdownedtree2654 i can’t remember where i found out about this, but apparently marinette’s parents are based off of astruc and one of his exes? idk 🤷♀️
@@carimeslockdownedtree2654 On The Immaturity of Thomas Astruc Tumblr page (which catalogs quite a bit of the things he's said and done) under the section Other Stuff Astruc Has Said Online called 'The Time He Said He Based Marinette's Parents off Himself and One of his Former Girlfriends', when asked on Twitter whether Marinette's father's name had something to do with him, he replied: "Yep. At that time, my girlfriend was a french/chinese girl named Sabine. So It was as if Marinette was our virtual child." He's said a lot of other stuff including downplaying Marinette's obsession with Adrien and implying that he wasn't racist because a few of the main heroes in his show were people of color.
It’s a shame Marinette went through such awful characterization-when I first watched the show I was able to relate to her clumsiness, awkwardness, and longing for affection. But then Astruc decided to give her so many flaws while refusing to give her the character development she needed. If there’s anyone to blame for why everyone hates her, it should be him.
Yeah, I love Marinette but not how Astruc made her. I do however can't stand the design of her
The problem with miraculous is that the show had so much potential to be great, the concept is cool, the set up was good, but they kept writing themselves into corners
Fr!! Like, they gave her so many flaws, and that's fine! Flaws are what makes characters relatable and more realistic. HOWEVER, they didn't treat Marinette's flaws as flaws, but just treated them as little quirks and even romanticized her stalking? 😭
They also refuse to give her any type of consequences to her actions most of the time bc obviously the protag can't POSSIBLY be in the wrong
@@ProjectKEJMI like her flaws and relate to some of them, I don’t like how the show doesn’t treat them that way. I’ve experienced limerence before so I relate to yandere characters that are obsessed with one person, but I wanna see the story of how they learn to get over it because that would be relatable. I wanna see her called out and become horrified at herself and how creepy she has been when she realizes the extent of what she’s done. Like move on from her obsession and then look back and think oh my god I really did this oh fuck that was creepy and not okay. I think she should have ended up with Lucas instead of Adrien and should have had her obsession fade away so she can grow as a person and grapple with the fact that what she did in stalking Adrien was really not okay.
in the movie marinette has a better character, sure its a cliche type of shy main character but at least she was more sane
i feel like ladybug is worse than mari simply bc of her attitude as a hero, i remember watching miraculous as a kid and always getting weirded out by how she acted as soon as she transformed
right?? she’s meant to be a girlboss but i couldnt help but think about how i’d dislike her irl LOL
It always felt like she was a completely different person and I honestly don’t understand the reasoning behind her huge personality shift when she put on the mask
@@honeybun8823I think it’s because her personality merges with the Kwami’s. Tiki, her Kwami, is much more sassy and assertive.
@@saltyapple she would be so passive agressive with both civilians and villains (who are just civilians who need extra help!!) PLUS chat noir.. she'd be so annoying irl
@@honeybun8823 she's so much nicer as marinette, willing to help and make friends with everyone, but as soon as she can be an actual hero she becomes a huge asshole?? it does NOT add up
im literally jamie’s number one fan guys this is the best day of my life
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@@AlienShark18 that’s meeee!!!
To good
It could kinda make sense that Jamie’s superhero form thing is called ladybird if she’s from Britain and moved to New Paris to live w her extended family after her sisters death, but it would mean she’d have to be British😭😭
Hatsune miku does NOT talk to british people
i headcanon her as welsh
@@L0rdOfThePies thats so real
Truly tragic
I can't believe Jamie and Lila are roommates, besties even,
historians will say they were great friends
Close friends
Buddies
My God, they were roommates
girlfriends.
Miraculous Ladybug could have been a fire show if the romance stuff was completely cut out in favor of their being a greater focus on character development.
Adrien deserved to be in a better show. Blonde boy with an evil dad where have I seen that seen that before where it's actually pulled off better.
"blonde boy with an evil dad" oh, maybe Ninjago? Metal family? It everything i know.
@@Freckle17 yes I was thinking about Ninjago.
and funny enough I do have a bit of a crush on Lloyd but Zane's my favorite
If you stretch it to "blonde boy with evil guardian" you could fit Hunter from The Owl House too
Romance itself isn't the problem, the problem is Media writting romance. Instead of doing something simple like "We always together cuz we love each other", the writers always wants to make HUGEST MESS of romance they can, filled with awkward moments that doesn't progress neither the story nor the the romance itself. And if wasn't good enough, the writers drag this thing as far as they can.
But I have to give Miraculous credits for doing something new. In contrast with other shows where the romance stays in status quo or it's actually goes foward, Miraculous has manage to DESTROY the main couple, not like "they don't have chemistry" but Marinette and Andrien's relationship is literally going down hill, they are distancing from each other. I think I never had seen a show where the main couple relationship goes below zero😂.
@@KeylaKey________ what's worse is that the side ships are better than the main ship. Well, at least the Luka x Marinette (the only problem is that they ofc had to make Marinette be thinking about Adrien and have anxiety about being Ladybug because otherwise, Luka is the best match for her)
I’ve always wanted to redesign miraculous characters (for fun y’know), but there are SO MANY problems I have with the show. It’s just a big can of worms I don’t wanna open.
I've only follow one Miraculous redesign series so far. The artist had to rewrite the whole cartoon universe to make it work😅.
Yeah! Everything I see a miraculous redesign/rewrite I'm like "I wanna do that" but then I stop to think about it and it's like "alright, where do I start to make it work.... oh sh*t"
“Hey everyone! Today I’m redesigning Miraculous Ladybug characters! But before we begin…”
*checks watch and looks at it for a few seconds*
“…”
*gunshot sound*
“Ah, now we can start! We’re gonna start with Marinette’s replacement!”
Lmaoooo 💀
Oh my god! Perfect! 😆🤣🤣👍🏻
Canon Marinette is so stalkerish. Even with apprently the recent plot that explains it, it still feels off. Her having PTSD for how bad the bullying was is interesting tho
I've given up on watching canon show and instead reading fanon comic instead. I would recommend the Feralnette series by bigfatbreak. Also I think the main ship is Mari and Felix(closer to trailer felix but still different, they are also a ballet dancer :) )
In the comic Chloe's character motivation is actually interesting. And Lila is even worse
That episode also makes other characters less likeable. For example, Kim?
He didn't seem like the type of person who would endanger someone's life over a "prank" but that's what happened in the episode.
Kim could have still worked as the reason why Marinette has trust issues. Like that would explain why she got irritated so much with Chat Noir. But that's not what they're using Kim for 😅
It was interesting but I felt like it was just to justify her behaviour not explain it
@@jenmiranda13 Kim was a bully in Season 1 and part of the reason why Lady WiFi was made. So it is somewhat accurate
Lila cannot beat THE Jamie Megatron ❗️❗️❗️❗️
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Honestly, cringe shaming is stupid. Sometimes making unusual decisions while drawing and designing the concept is fun and learning something from them shouldn't be punished. It doesn't hurt anyone, unlike public humiliation.
Your encouragement of doing things which are usually frowned upon or just unpopular, complemented with nice delivery and a beautiful artstyle, is what initially made me subscribe and, honestly, take some inspiration.
YAS. How does it feel to be the coolest person ever lucky
i would ask you pookie
@@inkiio inko on top
@@inkiio I love the art style and all your redesigns they're gorgeous!! But quick question what was the first song you used in your video when you started doing the sketching it sounds so familiar but I can't remember what it's called 🥲🤌
If Marinette can stalk people and still be the good guy Janies last name is allowed to be Megatron!!!!
with you turning paris into new paris to avoid euro, you missed a perfect pun! the currency could be "dolleur", which is dollar + euro but is pronounced like saying dollar with a french accent
OMG THANK YOU I'M NOT THE ONLY CRAZY ONE WHO HATES MARINETTE/LADYBUG-
so many people hates marinette/ladybug, even part of the fandom hates her
You’d be surprised about how common that is lmao
Yep! Pretty much!
I think she’s actually evil as a person
Honestly, I find more hates then lovers so I don't know what part of the internet your at.
What would your ladybugs powers be? Because I think the OG ladybug’s powers are too op.
i think i’ll keep lucky charm, but repairing everything after an akuma significantly lowers the stakes and definitely makes her overpowered, so i’ll probably take away that aspect
@@inkiio I'm a fanfic writer with a friend and I tried to explain but nope.
Yeah, honestly, it would've been nice if that was actually addressed properly in the show, like that being the main reason why Cat Noir is considered the "sidekick" or something similar or if they wanted there to be less disconnect between the two Adrien's flaw with not having listened to his kwami whenever he started made it so that he didn't realize he had a power he *greatly needed* or at least would've been helpful to have and for example Plagg didn't want to get interrupted again whenever explaining which I think would've been a really cool plot device to have hanging over Adrien's head in the show because 1 it'd show the mistrust Plagg has in his holders after being in the hands of ones who went rouge, 2 it could show Adrien as a much hastier character then what's shown to us and explain Chat Noir's character better, and 3 if they were fighting an akuma that had needed the power it could show the long term consequences of having to deal with the fact that unlike Marinette he wasn't taking it seriously which would've been that the power he needed was unknown to him rather than him just being tossed around like a rice sack in their first battle.
ladybug is op bro nah cat bitch literally destroys things by touching them and i don't think there's a hard limit on what he can destroy with that
Oh, no. Marinette is in fact a bad character. I'll say it of you won't, I'm no coward.
Also, I love Jamie already, just a cute little lass, doing her best.
And look Jamie and Lyla are like proper character foils, you know literative devices.
Don't worry we all think the same
@@rosemary3029WE??
She a good character
@@christ5431Marinette a good character?! HA. Yeah. No.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian First of all "Adrizoe"🤣🤣🤣 then yes she is a good character especially in r standard of series episodes due to her personality and her maturity in the story but hey I'm talking to someone who likes hazbin hotel type series with a pedophile creator
Lila is actually gonna be the new villain of the show in the upcoming season, so I’m hoping we get more expansion on her pathological liar trait
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I would eat this entire AU UP i love all the designs so much and the relationships are already much more interesting but still easy to follow
I'm glad I haven't been watching Miraculous lately cus it doesn't look good. Tho I always go back and rewatch the Chat Blanc ep for fun.
Me too cuz I like chat Blanc more than every single episode out there
Ngl good EP writing the only other EP that made me cry was Ephemeral
Highly recommend the movie if you haven't seen it yet. It seems to be a retelling or alternate universe or something, and aside from the beautiful animation, the characters are great. I was rooting for Mari a lot more than I do when I watch the actual show
As a person who sat through all five seasons... please, save yourself.
Cat blanc was the best ep
Bro, it's SUCH an American thing to change the seating of a show to USA or a America/Other Place fictional thing and I hate it, months have passed and I still can't believe theres not a lot of comments complaining about it.
Being a European, I think it's so nice to have shows that does not happen in the US for once and then the Americans came and go like "Fuck it, it's America now" I saw it happening more than once and it really makes me angry
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO U right man.............. THE AMERICASS SUCKSSS!!! Like I WANT europe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to have more credificationnnnnnnnn....... France is important tooo mannnnn............ They people sockkkkkkkkkkk............ suckkkkkkkkkkkk........... Im smoking sosoooooooo much weed and stufffffffffff............... europeeeeeeeeee
Dude, I get your mad and all, but they said it’s like an Au, meaning things will be different, if you don’t like it, why don’t you make your own au. I’m sure you have some good ideas
@queenbee3561 I make a lot of AU's and I search a lot for that, so it bothers me that SOME Americans don't make effort to study a little bit about other cultures or other countries for example. I'm not saying that it's inkiio case, but seriously, that makes me very frustrated.
Deleting Marinette is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard of.
i absolutely adore these designz and ur SO REAL about replacing her that needz to be more normalized
I've done similar. Not because I hate marinette's guts, bit because I just want to make my own characters. New cat, new fox, etc.
This is so random but when I got halfway through the video I realised something massive, for the past few weeks I’ve been horrendously depressed, this video made me feel like myself more, finally I feel like drawing again, getting up and getting my life back on track. Genuinely love your work and your take on miraculous, thank you sm for making content 🩵
i'm glad my video could help, thank you for supporting my content! i hope it gets better for you 💙🌟
Megatron as a last name is honesty so fire
id like to think that one of the things that would make them friends would be a moment when they're competing in something Lila loses, freaks out and -- would say something to her like "Everyone has things that they're good at and things they're bad at, i'm sure you have some of each as well. We all have things we handle well and things we don't."
Honestly part of the fun of having ocs is to fix any grievances in a story you dislike,and I have been doing that with my ocs for years now. You sharing your oc and explaining how she would affect the story really made me happy that I'm not the only one who does so. Cringe is dead, or that's what they say I think.
Being someone who likes Marinette, I can agree that there are some unlikeable things about her. Like her attitude as Ladybug. I HATE how she treated Cat Noir in some scenes. And also how she literally never shared anything about herself as ladybug. I know that she had to keep her identity secret in case Hawkmoth ever somehow found out, but she was just SO over the top about it. The fact that she like, NEVER shared her emotions with Cat Noir just made their relationship not as close (in a professional way) than it could've been throughout the show. Also I hate how Marinette literally stalks adrien.
I understand that she doesn't do it anymore? Since they are already couples and it would be stupid for Mari to still be a stalker.
@@PinkandRedLover I mean she's gotten better, but I was referring to Marinette in the beginning of the show. You are right though, and she does get a lot better personality wise towards the end of the show!
Did you forget Chat Blanc??/
Slowly dropped Miraculous? Yes
Doesn’t like Marinette and Ladybug? Yes
Last name Megatron? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY I LOVE HER
I love how Lucky was going into the backstory of the Marinette replacement and then at 9:10 just reveals the trauma. Had me cackling fr 💀👌🏾
Wait, what do you mean Marinette fans? Do they exist?! I thought they were mithycal creatures, like mermaids and unicorns!
Most of them are on Twitter. And throw tantrums when someone talks badly about her. It’s really pathetic honestly. How many people will try to defend Marinette. I’m glad I hate Marinette. She deserves the hate.
“Another video” we all chant in unison
right when i thought i ran out of inkiio videos you dropped this banger
0:58 no…no… let em cook…
An OC Have for miraculous is a character named June! She is 1 year younger than Marinette (school year wise) and she loves music and art, and takes art classes (she would be friends with Marc). She would have been Lila or Alex’s cousin (I’m indecisive). Her role in the show is to basically point out all the things ladybug’s (tho she doesn’t exist anymore lol) mistake’s, kind of an opposite to Chloe who always point out what MARINETTE does wrong, she would point out ladybugs wrong doings (so ladybug can improve) For example: all the damage she does
(I have a little headcanon that the “miraculous ladybug” only fixes damage DIRECTLY caused by the villain, where things like; traffic delay, damage that the villain didn’t DIRECTLY do but was caused by the villain, etc., all stays the same).
They would eventually be offered a miraculous but I think she would have declined or smth (I think she would take it just to protect people)
(Also she does NOT think she would be a “better superhero than ladybug” (tho she probs would XD) she’s just pointing out the obvious flaws that everyone is ignoring yk?)
Yeah that’s kinda it for now LOL SORRY ABOUT THE OC DUMP
Oh my god just taking Marinette out of the story completely is the funniest “fix it” I’ve heard out of the fandom so far 😭thank you for making my week lmao
14:14 when I saw the flags being placed in I immediately just yelled "SHE'S SO ME"
Funnily enough I was looking at Megatron fanart when you said that
i did basically the same thing with my miraculous au(idk why i made an au it's a thing for me now) but i just kinda trashed the villain|goodbye creepy old guy that hires ppl to steal teenagers jewelry
i always though ML would do better with a chiller MC and even as a kid, I hated the way Ladybug/Marinette treated both Cat Noir/Adrien in both contexts.
As heroes, Ladybug is so dismissive of Cat Noir, it's infuriating. And as civilians, Marinette treats Adrien like an exotic animal or something. The stalking is weird; the writers def could have done the whole anxious girl watching her crush way better.
Also, New Paris? It's giving San Fransokyo from BH6 and I love it.
Words can’t describe how much I love that Jamie’s interest is ballet! I LOVE ballet! I love how it’s graceful and pretty, but also takes a lot of effort to perfect! I wish that we had more characters who are into ballet!! 💙
They’re so bbg in a platonic way
no no, Jamie is way cooler and is most likely way more interesting and suited to hold the Ladybug miraculous than Marinette ever could be.
@@sapling_sd bc it's a oc
Jaime should wear pointe shoes over her costume
Miraculous office done a really good job redesigning Marinette / ladybug
I do really love your longer style talking videos, it's nice to listen to and hear your takes on shows!
I’m sorry but I CANNOT take this seriously at all in any ways shape or form when Jamie’s last name is MEGATRON
I don't see a problem with giving up Marinette.
But I really hate that they decided to move the action from France to the US-France. God, guys, not every story has to be about America, stop erasing other nationalities 😭
please give us more miraculous. I am OBSESSED with Jamie and your rewrite!!! I would love to see Adrian in your style too!
You've made me like Lila.
^^ this! She feels more realistic and actually like a person this way
I'm ngl, I could never get into Miraculous because I got the most intense second hand embarrassment from Marionette everytime my sister watched it 😭
I love Ladybird's design! It's so pretty!
For how they get there miraclous maybe you can have the kwami appear to them in a i choose you to be my holder sort of way its give them more to do than just being floating Jiminy crickets
Lucky,idk if your into doing more hero designs. But I think it would be cool if you made super hero's themed around different zodiacs. Maybe inspired by the lady bug franchise but making it your own thing. Just an idea that may be fun if you liked making the super hero's in this. I just think it would be cool to see the idea of zodiac inspired hero designs more,the only one's I really know about are Miraculous Lady bug and Zodiac knights.
OMG I LOVE JAIMEEEE SHE’S ADORABLE!!! And I love them bonding on their dead female guardian figures lol
Also, with Jaime’s current design, I currently imagine Adrien as having a lot of light reds and pinks with green accents to match… which idk if you’d want, considering you said you’re cool with his current design and idk if it’d fit, but I just thought I might share lol
Just wanted to say once more how much I love Jaime compared to Marinette… as a kid, her constant stalking of Adrien absolutely horrified me and she gave me a LOT of second-hand embarrassment… I’m much more happy with the concept of Jaime being there to add some sense to this show.
I like Lila’s design too, I love a manipulative antagonist, I love the idea of having more than JUST the akumatized villains that you can’t learn to like or empathize with or watch them as they gain development…. At all… and her having a sister, that’s adorable (and a possible catalyst for drama if Lila ever reforms), and I love her clothes, they’re pretty
I don’t like Miraculous that much but I liked the video, so sorry if I talked too much 😅
omg no freaking way I JUST REWATCHED RHE ENTIRE FREAKING SHOW ANS U COME OUT W THIS YESSSSSSS ILYYYY
I need an AU of this. It's golden.
I'm vibing with this energy. Like, YEAH, you go replace the main character! What are these people going to do? I like your redesigns they are very pretty :)
literally do not know how i would style ladybug different i love eveurthung about her design AND HER HAIR COLOR UGH TO DIE FOR
Stawwp I was talking to a friend about doing this for a good while and they called the idea stupid ✋😭
I'm glad you posted this though, you're way more brave than me on that 💀
Thank you for doing videos with your oc x canon, I started getting more comfortable because of you (and some other creators but still) putting my ocs and even shipping them with canon characters. So thank you for that and also love your artstyle and ideas.
WAKE UP NEW INKIIO VIDEO!!!!!
i fell off of mlp the millisecond the diary thing came around, when I was a kid i watched it for the fights and stuff, i watched it for marinette using the other miraculi to her advantage?? i LOVED the lore, but then they introduced the diary thing and i immediately exited
honestly the anxiety that filled me up while you drew the wrong hand in lila was aghhhh
You should honestly become a worker that makes miraculous ladybug! These characters are soooooo amazing to me. Somehow, these characters are living in my head rent free lol.
When it comes to stuff like this I far prefer replacing the whole cast rather then just one. Idk, just gives more to work with if that makes sense? Just personal preference I guess, I've never felt very interested in shipping ocs with canon cast, always felt weird for me. Always been pretty strictly oc x oc or canon x canon. That's not me saying other people can't do what they want of course, it's just a show lol. When it comes to Marinette specifically though, in a way i blame the writers a lot more for how the cast turned out because they don't know how to write teenagers coherently in the slightest. And they think cringe = funny when the cringe they write makes me want to rip my hair out. Like the statue scene. Took me an hour. An. Hour. *And then they try to retcon that as a good thing, like no, that sucked, why'd you make me see that again.*
Honestly same idk why but I just really dislike oc x canon
@@Bee_814 I also really dislike it, even though i'm in a lot of fandoms where oc X canon isn't just popular, its almost mandatory ( Dragon age, yay)
I think its because you can kinda see the hand of the author a little too much when its oc x canon, like, a LOT of those stories just aren't written with an audience in mind. The authors tend to know their ocs inside and out so will cut corners in writing that normally only works for characters that everyone knows really well.
also sometimes they're just REALLY cringe
If am being honest I like this storyline way better then the original ❤❤
Literally eating up the way you sketch, this is soooo good !!!🫶
13:49 I just realized in one design her hair is short and another design it’s long does her hair magically grow?
Magic. ✨
YOURS IS AWSEOME IM USUNG THIS FOR MY OWN HAPPINESS
OHMIGOSH! Jamie looks SO CUTE I love her! XD
YES THANK YOU OMG. I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW I JUST FELT LIKE ANGRY OR UNCOMFORTABLE BY HOW MARINETTE WAS.
We artists do whatever the hack we want. Hahahaha! Lol!😂 (do what you find fun. Just don't over do it that it becomes way too toxic for others.👍✨)
Absolutely shipping Lila and Jamie
Well developed characters with good dynamics 😍
I'm living for this Lila and Jamie drama, it's giving gay love-hate tension that I crave
Honestly I'm more mad about you removing the euros and americanizing Miraculous than about removing Marinette🙄
Rahhhh, the eagle shall manifest all destiny 🦅🦅🦅🦅
Honestly same lol, let us euros be
Same like, even if I myself want to make a rewrite fanfiction where I do fix Marinette that felt like a scandal.
Same. I don't think she would have done that if it was in an Asian or African country.
I mean come on now, every superhero is in the US, let us have this!/lh
nothing builds friendships like shared/relatable trauma!!
I…don’t know how I feel about Chloe being replaced with Lila. Especially since it was CHLOE who came first before Lila and it was CHLOE who had more potential of a reformation arc than Lila ever did. But it’s not my video so I can’t do much about it.
….I also don’t know how I feel about you lowkey hinting at replacing Alya as Rena Rouge….with Lila (and Maggie). (Seriously what’s with this fandom and not letting Alya cook?)
But regardless, the story itself is interesting and I do like the redesign for Lila.
New Paris…
French… but in the Americas…
You made Quebec ToT (XD I love it)
I hate Marinette. I hate how she was handled. I hate her lack of development as a character. I hate that she steals the spotlight from every other character. I hate that she is favoured over Adrien. I hate her insufferability. I hate that her stalker behaviour is glorified. I hate that her mistakes are not treated as mistakes. I hate that Astruc thinks she's perfect. I hate that he doesn't see how badly she is written. I hate how calling her a bad protagonist is considered 'sexist.' I hate that she is a role-model little girls are told to look up to. I hate how much of an insult she is. I hate that these awful writers don't care to humanise her. I hate Marinette.
I like Marinette but this is still a very interesting and good video (I also just can’t handle Marinette’s bull sh!t sometimes)
They mentioned Rarity while I was drawing a Rarity redesign 😭
This is honestly such a power move, good for you 😂 The only thing I disagree with is changing Paris to New Paris. I understand the urge to put characters in more familiar environment, but I feel like there's so much american superhero stuff that changing purely european setting is not very fun :(
P.S.: omg very fem she/they bi non-binary character with long brown hair, she's me fr :DD
Jamie deserves her own series ❤
love the redesigns! they turned out so cute! and the voice acting? is incredible???
I love Jamieeee you were so right for replacing Marionette
🐞 long love Ladybird
Forget about taking away marinette, YOU CREATED A NEW COUNTRY 😭 WHY
Why do I low-key like this more than the real one, It's so good that I want it to be a real TV show 😭😭😭❤❤❤
New Paris sounds really fun tbh.
After looking at some comment I can agree, that this whole movie is just a power move 👏 Also your Lila art is gorgeous! I love how you drew and colored her hair as Volpina!
Hi, I honestly love the idea of kicking out Marinette out of the show or at lest downgrading her to rival/bully and replacing her with other girl. If this pathetic thing could ever be saved it has to be reworked from the ground up without Tomas Astruc, and Marinette is already way too tainted as a stalker and certified Mary Sue (she is the reason why I passed on seeing the movie, I know that Jeremy did everything to rewrite her and make her likable again, but after show I am unable to see her in any other light). I even wanted to do that for fanfic I was planing, but due to my love-hate relationship with the show I never ended up writing it. I made two versions of my entry the first character was, sweet, but very shy and timid Solange, a girl who Adrien had been online friends with, vented to and geeked out with for years, who now had to move to Paris, because of her mother's work, she would take over black cat miraculous, while Andien would become Mr. Bug full time, and second was bit alternative, aloof and cold Meili, Marinette's long lost twin who her parents put up for adoption, because back then they coundn't afford two kids, but because Marinette's parents discover her during school music competition, and her guardian died leaving her in an orphanage they were only to happy to take her in, which doesn't go over well finally giving this sickly perfect family some conflict, Mei would take over as Ladybug and she and Adrian would bond over their bad lives and Adrien both as Chat and normally would help to convince her to give other people a chance since she is quite a recluse and doesn't trust people because of her past. In both versions character know about each other, with Solonge it's even Adrien who convinces her and new guardian to give her miraculous.
girl, you're not the only one who HATES Marinette/Ladybug! I hate her too (o tho, I didn't delete her from my rewrite, I just completely rewrote her) You are not alone in this.
I don’t know if you see this but all I can say Marinette is a water down kid version of a Yandere
Part 2. I need a part 2. Girl you have a really solid story here and I want to hear more about it. I LOVE this au so much. As a person who found miraculous very boring this has peaked my instrest as something i would watch. The art is so beautiful you did such a good job. I love Jamie with all my heart.