The chances of them all agreeing on the same weapons systems is very remote for years, the process will take years to agree on because every nation has its own geographical and environmental factors to feed in and that will lead to constant disagreement, vested interests, financial hurdles, and chaos. Weapons procurement on the scale and form they dream of cannot be done overnight no matter what they say in EU and NATO with their delusions of unity.
some of the other US allies in the region might need to see more US involvement in the region, I recall Philippines at least tried playing both sides even while China was encroaching on internationally recognized Philippine territory.
This guy did a lot of yapping and said very little. What he did say just didn’t make sense. Is he advocating for less US defense spending?!? Supporting Ukraine lets our decades OLD weapons fulfill their intended purpose: destroying Russians
Interesting. I heard very clearly that his objective would be to focus defence on Asia and put Ukraine’s defence on the shoulders of Europe. He also said that the US is spending much more per capita on Ukraine support than Europe. He also said, that it is likely that negotiated peace is likely to include redrawn borders. Clearly, that is not so desirable from the perspective of Ukraine, and others, but it is “reality.” I didn’t necessarily like what I heard, but the message was clear.
@@alane3983 US isn't actually spending 200 billion on Ukraine, that money is split between domestic needs, Ukraine AND Far East; making new munitions to replace the "about to expire in the near future" -ones sent to Ukraine, expanding munition and hardware production to meet the needs of US's own military (including restocking munitions for ALL contingencies, including the China threat-) and the orders placed by allies AND acquisition of new capabilities Uncle Sam realized he needed to have five years ago when the current high-intensity conflict in Ukraine erupted in February 2022.
@barriewilliams4526 The Baltic Sea, The Barents Sea, the Pacific Ocean, and of course, the rest of the Black Sea. Then of course their is the Caspian Sea. Take it to the criminals everywhere that it is possible to do so. Of course Russian warships traverse other oceans as well. Ukraine is inventive. One possible way would be disguised mother ships, traversing the oceans, launching drones.
@@icu17siberia Baltic states, Finland and Denmark among others have all sent more than they cold have honestly afforded to send at the time (Finland's contribution of NLAWs reportedly left Finland with very few for FDF's own use), Poland has sent a lot of hardware as well (not sure how big of a dent that has made into their capabilities-), it's mostly Germany that has been holding back
Most of the money got investes in USA. They sending mostly overpriced stocks and replenish with high end home produced items ti ukr. Just to point that out.
Trumpski, Vanceski, and Moscow Traitor Greene. Puppets of Vladolf Putler, the modern day AH. God help us all, I bet Dictator VP has a big diagonal smile on his face right now in his golden bunker.
Absolutely - I have said for a long while that the RAF must stop riding shotgun for the USA to give credibility of an international force in the Middle East. We should sell the White Elephants (carriers) and concentrate solely on a European theatre.
@@rogermorris8737I’m American and I hope the UK does this. Europeans should stay in Europe. America should stay in the Americas. The world would be much more peaceful
@@ckthegreat100 Then why have we not had a major conflagration in Europe and only minor skirmishes elsewhere? NATO is the answer - and if the only country to invoke Article 5 walks away from it that gives Russia the green light to attack - especially as Donald Trump has said he would encourage Russia to attack! So, far from being the peace-making approach it would almost certainly trigger WWIII (or WWII in the Trump history of the World). My comment is very much that we should not be there for America when the time comes - as it will at some point. History has a nasty habit of repeating itself and at the moment we are in a 1938 situation. Europe has a couple of years to re-arm and get ready for a huge fight that will inevitably affect America and we must get rid of the weapons that are intended to back up America in the Middle and Far East - we won't need them if we are flat out fighting in Europe.
It represents the threat that the allies are talking about. America 1st means keeping us safe at all costs. Not to mention the security of the world. They're not the only ones worried in case you didn't know.
He's comparing the contribution of France or the UK with that of the United States. Why not compare it with the contribution of Kentucky or even perhaps Missouri to make it realistic? So far, The EU has contributed more than the US and THAT is a fact!
To be fair, that would be comparing the poorest states in America to the richest countries in Europe. That would be equally misleading as what Republicans are doing
Lol. 8 years ago Trump claimed he would lounge a replacement for Obama care; much better and cheaper… well that went well… so put the money where your mouth is, works for both sides.. I think this stance on Nato is a catastrophic mistake of the USA that will backfire enormeously (geopolitically).
Elbridge Colby's speech carefully avoids talking about nuclear balance. The United States had provided its nuclear protection free of charge to prevent the proliferation of these weapons. This proliferation is no longer a problem, then?
The $200 billion aid to Ukraine number is a lie -- the actual number is $80 billion versus $92 billion by Europe -- those are the facts (although $52 billion future U.S. aid has been promised at present). The U.S. is the #16 country in aid to Ukraine by GDP -- it's hardly sacrificing the most to help Ukraine. The military aid per year only represents 3% of the U.S. military budget, and most of the aid is old stocks that wouldn't be used by U.S. forces anyway (for example old cluster munitions that don't meet U.S. dud rate environmental standards, or older obsolete versions of equipment), so it really doesn't cost anything.
The $200 billion aid to Ukraine number is a not exact -- the actual number is NOT $75 billion versus $93 billion by Europe -- those are the facts (although $60 billion future U.S. aid has been promised at present). The U.S. is the #1 country in aid to Ukraine by GDP -- it's hardly sacrificing the most to help Ukraine. The military aid per year only represents 2 % of the U.S. military budget, and most of the aid is old stocks that wouldn't be used by U.S. forces anyway (for example cluster munitions that do meet U.S. dud rate at 95% environmental standards, or older obsolete versions of equipment), so it really doesn't cost anything. but is also necessary for Ukraine @ thank you USA/NATO FOR YOUR HELP @
False claims about $200blns. Based on ru propaganda and conspiracy news I'm surprised that he wasn't corrected by the host From state.gov U.S. Security Cooperation with Ukraine FACT SHEET BUREAU OF POLITICAL-MILITARY AFFAIRS JULY 11, 2024. To date, we have provided approximately $53.7 billion in military assistance since Russia launched its premeditated, unprovoked, and brutal full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022
One can use "common sense" to defend any position. We need to rely on more extensive information because sometimes what seems like common sense is really just a failure to think deeply and to jump to conclusions and easy answer. No one knows Russians like the states that are now independent of its grip so their voices. Ust be prominent in policy. If the US wants to cede their position then so be it. We must carry on alone and form new alliances.
This guy is talking about hypocrisy, and how European countries are not contributing enough and showing individual contributions from each country. But he is not mentioning Europe has collectively contributed 2 dollars for every American 1. Its the US that is slacking.
As supporter of Ukraine, and not trump , i would say calling out the EU isn't such a bad thing. European nations have spoken about what to do BUT some EU nations have not. This is top end messaging that is trying to shape a policy in the EU. p.s. im not a trump supporter.
Someone should tell this dude that where the "trend" is really going is the following: within 7 to 9 years the U.S. unable to service its sovereign debt (already in debt to its eyeballs) and shortly thereafter, the USD ceases to be the primary reserve currency of the global financial system. The current Republican candidate is superbly equipped to borrow more (over $7 trillion borrowed in his 1st term).
Which isn't true. The major support for ukraine comes from europe in nominal numbers. And then additionally only 20% of the support the US invests into Ukraine actuaky goes there. So eurooe is effectively supporting ukraine 5 times higher then the US does. The only benefit the US brings in is that it has old surplus weapons at its disposal. They even get around expensive disposal this way. All in all the US doesn't spend a dime on Ukraine. It's all political cheaptalk.
Again my comment has been removed. It’s impossible to give a meaningful informative answer to this subject without being censored. This censorship is a huge problem for the public debate and freedom of expression. Is it Times Radio or RUclips?
@@ChillingCrowley UK is correctly judged as prioritising US over European interests and therefore seen as a liability at best and an outright saboteur at worst.
American money spent on Ukraine defence is mainly spent in America
Do you have a point? It still drives inflation and hurts Americans
Yeah he does not understand this,
I'm afraid he does but simply lies like Trump does.
Another RuZZpublican, an embarrassment of the USA
Exactly.
The best is that europe starts builds their own veapon together and stop buying anything more from The usa
We all wish they would, but Europe really still thinks it won't have to redirect spending
The chances of them all agreeing on the same weapons systems is very remote for years, the process will take years to agree on because every nation has its own geographical and environmental factors to feed in and that will lead to constant disagreement, vested interests, financial hurdles, and chaos. Weapons procurement on the scale and form they dream of cannot be done overnight no matter what they say in EU and NATO with their delusions of unity.
Why the focus on Asia?
Taiwan says ‘if you want to deter China, support Ukraine.’
some of the other US allies in the region might need to see more US involvement in the region, I recall Philippines at least tried playing both sides even while China was encroaching on internationally recognized Philippine territory.
This guy did a lot of yapping and said very little. What he did say just didn’t make sense. Is he advocating for less US defense spending?!? Supporting Ukraine lets our decades OLD weapons fulfill their intended purpose: destroying Russians
He is either not the brightest candle on the cake or just a plain liar.
Interesting. I heard very clearly that his objective would be to focus defence on Asia and put Ukraine’s defence on the shoulders of Europe. He also said that the US is spending much more per capita on Ukraine support than Europe. He also said, that it is likely that negotiated peace is likely to include redrawn borders. Clearly, that is not so desirable from the perspective of Ukraine, and others, but it is “reality.” I didn’t necessarily like what I heard, but the message was clear.
if the speaker is maga reality has nothing to do with his opinions/schtick
@@alane3983 US isn't actually spending 200 billion on Ukraine, that money is split between domestic needs, Ukraine AND Far East; making new munitions to replace the "about to expire in the near future" -ones sent to Ukraine, expanding munition and hardware production to meet the needs of US's own military (including restocking munitions for ALL contingencies, including the China threat-) and the orders placed by allies AND acquisition of new capabilities Uncle Sam realized he needed to have five years ago when the current high-intensity conflict in Ukraine erupted in February 2022.
Uk and US contribution to Ukraine is identical. Both 0.31% of GDP and the Baltic nations are way ahead
I suggest we look the other way while Ukrainian Special Forces bring their Sea Baby drones into all oceans surrounding Russia.
Which oceans would they be?...
@barriewilliams4526 The Baltic Sea, The Barents Sea, the Pacific Ocean, and of course, the rest of the Black Sea. Then of course their is the Caspian Sea.
Take it to the criminals everywhere that it is possible to do so.
Of course Russian warships traverse other oceans as well.
Ukraine is inventive. One possible way would be disguised mother ships, traversing the oceans, launching drones.
@@trevorroberts9584Haven't you noticed Houthits already doing it.
Senator Vance has an “ extraordinary performance”
He’s delusional.
Vance uses the same eyeliners my gf does. He got a good taste.
but of course this guys going to say this, back his team as it were..
They sent so little! What is he talking about!!! America has MUCH MUCH more but Ukraine has to beg for everything! Simply not true
Europe has a lot, but has sent little. Refugee assistance is not aid to Ukraine in the form they've been asking for
@@icu17siberia Baltic states, Finland and Denmark among others have all sent more than they cold have honestly afforded to send at the time (Finland's contribution of NLAWs reportedly left Finland with very few for FDF's own use), Poland has sent a lot of hardware as well (not sure how big of a dent that has made into their capabilities-), it's mostly Germany that has been holding back
What a Helmet
Most of the money got investes in USA. They sending mostly overpriced stocks and replenish with high end home produced items ti ukr. Just to point that out.
300 million per day for 20 years in Afghanistan, and we 'have no money laying around'.
@fredfreddy8684 That's also a good cover to hide reality.
Thats not a good argument. Americans are dead set against spending that kind of money on a war ever again. Especially if it’s not even our war
"our war " lol...ok... when has any war been your war , the civil war?
That guy is a spin doctor and a liar.
Trump and Vance will help Putin bottom line.
Yep
Trumpski, Vanceski, and Moscow Traitor Greene. Puppets of Vladolf Putler, the modern day AH. God help us all, I bet Dictator VP has a big diagonal smile on his face right now in his golden bunker.
Yes Bye Bye 👋👋👋👋 sorry to shatter your 3 year old dream 😅
NO! they will control Putin fact. Was there any war under Trump administration?
Putin has stated he has ultimate respect for him.
If USA stepping down as super power in Europe then we need to look at our support for them.
What are the EU and the UK waiting for?
Absolutely - I have said for a long while that the RAF must stop riding shotgun for the USA to give credibility of an international force in the Middle East. We should sell the White Elephants (carriers) and concentrate solely on a European theatre.
@@rogermorris8737I’m American and I hope the UK does this. Europeans should stay in Europe. America should stay in the Americas. The world would be much more peaceful
@@ckthegreat100 Then why have we not had a major conflagration in Europe and only minor skirmishes elsewhere? NATO is the answer - and if the only country to invoke Article 5 walks away from it that gives Russia the green light to attack - especially as Donald Trump has said he would encourage Russia to attack! So, far from being the peace-making approach it would almost certainly trigger WWIII (or WWII in the Trump history of the World). My comment is very much that we should not be there for America when the time comes - as it will at some point. History has a nasty habit of repeating itself and at the moment we are in a 1938 situation. Europe has a couple of years to re-arm and get ready for a huge fight that will inevitably affect America and we must get rid of the weapons that are intended to back up America in the Middle and Far East - we won't need them if we are flat out fighting in Europe.
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I’m all for Europe doing more to help Ukraine and then to be ready to protect itself as America becomes more self focused
That is the common sense approach. Americans hate how Europe feels entitled to our assistance
The host couldn’t force the conversation towards negativity related to Trump and Vance. Biased bumbling fool
Wow this guy sounds a lot like tucker Carlson. His tone and manner is remarkably similar.
My first thought was that Tucker changed his hair..
I just commented that. He sounds like he could be his more mellow brother.
It represents the threat that the allies are talking about. America 1st means keeping us safe at all costs. Not to mention the security of the world. They're not the only ones worried in case you didn't know.
I can undestand the US point of view on this issue! Very sad that we Europeans still don't spend enough on defence! I hope this will change shortly!
He's comparing the contribution of France or the UK with that of the United States. Why not compare it with the contribution of Kentucky or even perhaps Missouri to make it realistic?
So far, The EU has contributed more than the US and THAT is a fact!
Yeah see Europeans typically are SOO ungrateful for the United States contributions to their Euro wars. Goes back to WW2
To be fair, that would be comparing the poorest states in America to the richest countries in Europe. That would be equally misleading as what Republicans are doing
Lol. 8 years ago Trump claimed he would lounge a replacement for Obama care; much better and cheaper… well that went well… so put the money where your mouth is, works for both sides.. I think this stance on Nato is a catastrophic mistake of the USA that will backfire enormeously (geopolitically).
Elbridge Colby's speech carefully avoids talking about nuclear balance. The United States had provided its nuclear protection free of charge to prevent the proliferation of these weapons. This proliferation is no longer a problem, then?
The $200 billion aid to Ukraine number is a lie -- the actual number is $80 billion versus $92 billion by Europe -- those are the facts (although $52 billion future U.S. aid has been promised at present). The U.S. is the #16 country in aid to Ukraine by GDP -- it's hardly sacrificing the most to help Ukraine. The military aid per year only represents 3% of the U.S. military budget, and most of the aid is old stocks that wouldn't be used by U.S. forces anyway (for example old cluster munitions that don't meet U.S. dud rate environmental standards, or older obsolete versions of equipment), so it really doesn't cost anything.
The $200 billion aid to Ukraine number is a not exact -- the actual number is NOT $75 billion versus $93 billion by Europe -- those are the facts (although $60 billion future U.S. aid has been promised at present). The U.S. is the #1 country in aid to Ukraine by GDP -- it's hardly sacrificing the most to help Ukraine. The military aid per year only represents 2 % of the U.S. military budget, and most of the aid is old stocks that wouldn't be used by U.S. forces anyway (for example cluster munitions that do meet U.S. dud rate at 95% environmental standards, or older obsolete versions of equipment), so it really doesn't cost anything. but is also necessary for Ukraine @ thank you USA/NATO FOR YOUR HELP @
False claims about $200blns.
Based on ru propaganda and conspiracy news
I'm surprised that he wasn't corrected by the host
From state.gov
U.S. Security Cooperation with Ukraine
FACT SHEET
BUREAU OF POLITICAL-MILITARY AFFAIRS
JULY 11, 2024.
To date, we have provided approximately $53.7 billion in military assistance since Russia launched its premeditated, unprovoked, and brutal full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022
@@albertf.2639exactly
How can so many words say so little? That's a talent...
Who is this guy?He seems to know a lot about nothing and says a lot about nothing
He’s clear as a bell. Just isn’t saying what you want to hear
One can use "common sense" to defend any position. We need to rely on more extensive information because sometimes what seems like common sense is really just a failure to think deeply and to jump to conclusions and easy answer.
No one knows Russians like the states that are now independent of its grip so their voices. Ust be prominent in policy.
If the US wants to cede their position then so be it. We must carry on alone and form new alliances.
Good luck finding men to join the military in the UK and EU.
Ivane do not worry for UK and EU, go in RuSSia and fight for great RuZZIa
Good luck with the RF economy
The botski is worried about the UK and EU. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
Agreed, thus the concern about US defending Europe vs. Europe defending itself with US assistance.
I would join up if it comes to defending my country and continent.
I know you think you need to have this interview. But a man who cannot just say that Putin must be stopped is no patriot.
Dint putin sayd ..no intention to atack Europe ? 0:34
I know hah!!
There is no threat from Russia for Europe. Maybe the Baltics and Poland will be punished for their bad behaviour but Europe is safe.
Good interviewer pressing for answers on key issues.
Why does Republican energy policy only focus on the corrupt oil industry?
This guy is talking about hypocrisy, and how European countries are not contributing enough and showing individual contributions from each country.
But he is not mentioning Europe has collectively contributed 2 dollars for every American 1. Its the US that is slacking.
As supporter of Ukraine, and not trump , i would say calling out the EU isn't such a bad thing.
European nations have spoken about what to do BUT some EU nations have not.
This is top end messaging that is trying to shape a policy in the EU.
p.s. im not a trump supporter.
This guy is not so right, as I first thought he was
Trump 2024 🇺🇸
Vance 2028 🇺🇸
Vance 2032 🇺🇸
This is exactly how American foreign policy should always be!
JD Vance is Trump's Dmitry Medevev
Someone should tell this dude that where the "trend" is really going is the following: within 7 to 9 years the U.S. unable to service its sovereign debt (already in debt to its eyeballs) and shortly thereafter, the USD ceases to be the primary reserve currency of the global financial system. The current Republican candidate is superbly equipped to borrow more (over $7 trillion borrowed in his 1st term).
Things have to be going very badly indeed if this channel is interviewing those with opposing points of view...
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😂😂😂😂 at last. Lets the racist fight thier fight.
We must step up, but he's a liar.
This guy is wrong
Radio Times is a
Propaganda tool.
Trump ✝️❤👍😊 Biden 🏳️🌈😳
What a lot of nonsense noise
This guy is all rhetoric and no facts.
You quote Reagan like you were there when he was. Thats really funny.
War in Europe but not in the USA then?
"Its been a pretty consistent message for sometime"
And yet Europe refuses to listen
Which isn't true. The major support for ukraine comes from europe in nominal numbers. And then additionally only 20% of the support the US invests into Ukraine actuaky goes there. So eurooe is effectively supporting ukraine 5 times higher then the US does. The only benefit the US brings in is that it has old surplus weapons at its disposal. They even get around expensive disposal this way. All in all the US doesn't spend a dime on Ukraine. It's all political cheaptalk.
@@emmetray4141 old weapons like himars and brand new 155mm shells and patriot systems. they are old by us standards not by europe standards
A lot of what he says makes sense and there is no reason why a united Europe cannot be an economic and military power equal to that of the US
the only reason is the will to redirect spending
Elbridge talks too fast. Full of bluster. Seems a bit of a know all. Obviously a Trump supporter.
Better a know it all then a bunch of no nothings like we have now....
This guy is a clown
European voters are not willing to abandon their financial comfort and spend to armies.
any russophobes here?
Who is the walrus-like interviewer? I like walruses fwiw
Theodore Roosevelt look alike.
That’s the never Trumper Vance he is talking about…….
If Russia can't take Ukraine then is he really any threat to Western Europe/NATO?
Who is this guy speaking? Pardon my ignorance, but not clear frpm the overall layout of this podcast
The BS that comes out of these people is relentless, like their cult leader trump it just has become cultural.
I’m not a trump supporter but Euro does need to pay a larger share for their European war
Again my comment has been removed. It’s impossible to give a meaningful informative answer to this subject without being censored.
This censorship is a huge problem for the public debate and freedom of expression.
Is it Times Radio or RUclips?
Great discussion, really surprised to hear a republican with good arguments
Good is a relative term as you prove.
Cope radio brought to u by uk the famous usa poodle
What an edgy and incisive comment, you should be very proud of yourself
Nonsense comment and not even worth one small potato 😂
@@ChillingCrowley UK is correctly judged as prioritising US over European interests and therefore seen as a liability at best and an outright saboteur at worst.
@@sarahjessicafarter7383 Ridiculous