How Overwatch's Character Design is Carrying the Game
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- I know on this channel I'm usually criticizing Overwatch, but for this video, I want to talk about something I think they get really, really right - their hero design. Overwatch's characters are a huge part of the game's success, and I would even go so far as to argue that they're the key to the game's continued longevity. So, that's what this video is about! Definitely nothing else. Definitely no secret surprises in this video. Pinkie swear.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
02:21 - Part 1: The Concept
06:17 - Part 2: The Personality
11:13 - Part 3: The Branding
17:09 - Part 4: The Voice
22:52 - Part 5: The Design
28:38 - Part 6: Bringing Them To Life
33:38 - Conclusion
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Credits:
Model: Hauluciel ( / hauluciel )
Branding & Graphics: Enso ( / enso_exe ) 
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Ok, that shift from the Sombra Skull icon to the new flower one and then off to a completely different icon all in character while also keeping it on topic of the character design was genuinely pretty clever
It was at this moment in the video I realized he actually changed his profile lol
The fun part was that the graphics were actually being updated for the channel live - if you look at the live chat, you can see a few people reacting to the channel pfp changing at the same time as it did in the video haha
@@TheViveros ok that sounds really cool lol wish I coulda been there
@@TheViveros That is so creative
@@TheViveros while I was watching this video, I was hoping you'd have gone the extra mile to update it the moment you changed it in the video, good on you
"i'm personally the kind of homosexual who uses drugstore bleach as therapy" is killing me. in all seriousness, I'm living for the evolution of this channel. it's been great seeing your videos get even better over the last little while. as much as i hate being nice to albertans, happy birthday !!
Valid, I don't like being nice to Albertans either. And thank you!
The characters were the whole reason I (and I suspect many of us) got into this franchise in the first place, I remember seeing the memes on tumblr back in 2016/2017 and thinking "this universe is so cool, I want to be a part of it!".
...It's been a rocky ride to say the least, but I have hope.
overwatch 2 cancelling pve be like :
That last sentence aged like milk left in the sun.
Only Viveros would use the guise of a 30+ min deep analysis of Overwatch's character design to go through the process for his own channel... Love it!
Sombra play
8:23 Couldn't help noticing your Lucio dodging every shot and nade you threw at him that was hilarious
having this video double as a rebrand was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE OMG
FUCK I MEANT CUNT
Thank you! Also, I want you to know that it made me cackle on stream to realize that this reply was literally the only comment on this video that was held for review lmao
That was an extremely smooth and satisfying way to reveal a channel makeover, I love it!!!
The model is wonderful and the transitions to and each the changes were wonderful, I can't believe I didn't miss any! Wonderful work, as always!
Thank you so much! It took a lot of work to try to get the transitions to go smoothly, I had to manually toggle on each new setting in Live2D as I was recording and then splice the clips together, which is why some of the lines are a little disjointed, but I was so happy with how they turned out.
@@TheViveros As you should!! You did a great job! Be proud!!
Character design in general is a really underrated thing in games that can potentially be a selling point. I probably never would have played Guilty Gear, OneShot, TF2, and subsequently Overwatch had it not been for the characters.
Legitmately my favourite Overwatch content creator right now. Viveros and Marblr carrying the utube space rn fr.
Thank you so much! I really admire Marblr, so I'm flattered to be considered alongside him haha
holy crap the details in the profile slowly coming in. The outline comes first, then the colored in version, he starts breathing when you talk about breathing (although I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to move your whole torso an inch up your neck when you breathe) his hair starts moving when you talk about hair, and he gets expressive when you talk about expressions, and then he comes alive!
From a writing perspective I really like that this video about design has had a parallel development of you coming up with a design. It brings the idea that you are open about your thought process, and instead of a teacher who uses his example to teach, you're another artist, displaying something that you like while you learn from it and apply it to your work. It would be really hard to pull this off in any other section of art that wasn't design. Good job!
This is especially important for someone like me who is just starting up on RUclips and, while I have my voice and my model, I'm still trying to come up with a logo and things like that
no he got yassified😭😭😭😭
They yassified me to protect my anonymity
This video was phenomenal! I'm in school at the moment for Graphic Design and I recently took a Branding class which made your discussion about brand aspects so interesting. I love the discussion about how color meanings change and shift constantly especially knowing when younger kids are taught the "meaning" of colors hell even in my design classes sometimes students and teachers mention or recommend colors using the meaning in America. Seeing you develop your brand identity is awesome and embarrassingly its something I still need to do for myself lol. You and Marblr are a blessing in the Overwatch Community thank you so much for your exciting and inciteful videos. Here's hoping you get more subs and get the popularity you deserve.
Thank you so much! All the credit for the branding goes to Enso, he took my rough concepts and turned them into something genuinely great. The stuff about identifying the meanings of colours is so funny to me because it always makes me think of The Golden Compass - each colour represents a nearly endless list of possible meanings, and a good graphic designer isn’t just somebody who knows the meanings but knows how to invoke the one they’re trying to. It’s a super hard thing to do consistently, and I have a ton of respect for anyone who can get to that point bc I absolutely couldn’t do it without a professional haha
oh my god we have the same birthday
Happy birthday!
Ine thing i absolutely adore is how the hero kits really back up the characters. I absolutely feel like you could guess the personality based off the kit alone.
Damn, I hesitated to vote on the Zero Escape: 999 one but ultimately didn't but seeing what you mentionned about it in this video, now I'm actually pretty interested but I already voted
It definitely seems like a topic you're pretty passionate about and the broader topic covered along with it is pretty damn interesting aswell!
Thank you! And you can always change your vote if you change your mind, RUclips polls are pretty flexible with that.
Oh wow I didn't know that, nice!
@@TheViveros11 months late but very sad that it didn’t win (afaik), that title is literally me with the whole Zero Escape series but with “puzzle games” instead.
Rule 34. That's it.
20:06 i love how you can see his avatar just right behind the flower lmao
Yeah, I was hoping it’d be a fun little easter egg for people down the road! That clip is actually from my Virtue’s Last Reward streams last year, and I hid the VTuber model so that it only appeared on the recording and not the livestream for the first few streams so that I’d have footage to sneak him in there without giving the twist away lol
As a wanna an amateur character desginer this was such a treat! Usually I tend to design my characters in big groups and this usually helps me to have a big picture of all the colors and shapes and I'm working with! Again great content, new sub!
this is one of my favorite videos on overwatch because it’s such a specific but critical topic; i love it! fun fact: in japanese pop culture, the charm of someone looking one way but sounding another is “ギャップ萌え (gyappu moe)”, and it’s a whole thing. i have such a soft spot for characters like that.
OH MY GOD FUSION FRENZY
Stopping by to say I watched it live, and a solid video as always. Happy birthday, congratulations on evolving the channel, and I can't wait to see what comes next!
Really love the video, is so well structured.
Also heavily appreciate de amount of information and the intent of being clear and have it properly explained!
It's really a shame that people don't usually care about character design. It's such a beautiful subject to study and it actually makes you get very creative. I loved that you mentioned Danganronpa, it's my favorite game, and while it's definitely not perfect, they probably have the best character design set i have ever seen in a videogame.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Thank you!
happy birthday! love your channel, your videos are always a joy to watch
Just found your channel, love your style of editing as well as writing! Subbeddd
Happy birthday 🎉
Love the work thats been done so far and cant wait to see those other topics❤
About part 4: the voice acting in Overwatch is very amazing at representing all sorts of different accents from around the world, which makes me all the more dissapointed that they didn't get an actual Brazilian person or someone who could do a convincing Brazilian accent to voice Lucio, and instead he just speaks in boring standardized English, besides like 2 lines, which personally decreases the fantasy and appeal of a character that's supposed to represent my culture.
btw great video as always
the Live was fun. Can't wait to see whats next for your channel!
So many characters just ooze personality as well as satisfaction. It makes parting with OW hard for me once I start to enjoy it consistently.
It's one of the differences that made me drop GEVO only a few weeks after it launched.
Happy birthday viv! 👏🎉👏🎉 love your videos and I'm excited for the changes. Keep up the great work 💜
This is actually so true, the amazing Overwatch characters are wasted on Overwatch 2.
Edit: Yeah especially now that PVE has been cancelled as well..
People ask me how I can keep playing this game despite never being able to climb out of bronze/silver/low gold even though I've been playing since the game first launched. It's the characters. I love these characters and they will always be what brings me back to the game between breaks.
ZERO ESCAPE 999 MENTIONED
WOO HOO
10:55 I must be really bad at getting hints cuz I've been following you for years and never knew any of that lol
this video is so cool!!!! i've played overwatch for like 5 years and i've never even realized all these little things. thanks so much for taking the time to make this
Really cool video, well done one of your best so far
I watched your video about the dunning krueger effect and forgot to subscribe... after losing you to the infinity of the youtube algorithm, it finally decided to show you again!
-subbed
my jaw dropped when u mentioned fusion frenzy. love that game. great vid!
Is the Vtubers jacket thing inspired by Sombra? Lol I love it (Also happy birthday)
It is! I really wanted to keep a Sombra reference in the design, and her OW1 design’s jacket was the major reference used for the model’s jacket.
I applaud you for the rigging on the model yourself!
Damn. It *was* a great video. Definitely worth the wait!
I’ve been tricked into watching a 2D mode debut but I wouldn’t have it any other way with how good the reveal was lol nice commentary and model!
Great video as per usual. Happy birthday! 🎈🎈🎈
Happy birthday Viveros
Oh wow what a great video. Very well produced, very instructive, everything I was hoping for … +1 ❤
15:45 (pictures with sound) "Zack shallack and ack kak pack! YEAYYY!!!"
I haven’t heard of Fusion Frenzy in forever. I thought I’d never see it again. Thank You! I didn’t play it a lot but it cemented itself in my head as an Industrial Mario Party. 😊
Literally, the thing that got me into overwatch was the character design. I genuinely owned the character concept art book before I had the game. Even though I’ve consciously made the effort to stop doing any overwatch fanart and stop playing the game because of everything that’s happened, I still reference a lot of its art concepts in my own art. I still follow a lot of the designers. To this day the thing I miss most is the various Overwatch OCs I’ve abandoned, since explicitly playing with overwatch’s design language is really fun!
You got me your logo thing is sick and I checked your banner. You win
Love the understated shade you were throwing at the NDP in this.
Honestly the real shade would’ve been just using an orange Liberal logo for them, but I thought that might just be confusing for the 95% of my viewers who aren’t familiar with Canada’s perpetual third party.
I didn't know that you were albertan, gay, or had previously worked in politics. I just had a feeling that you were albertan, gay, and had previously worked in politics.
I get that a lot tbh, I give off very Albertan, gay, previously worked in politics energy
I've been lurking on this channel, enjoying the video essays. Your model is very cute, and it makes sense to debut him in a video about character design. I have great disdain for what OW has become, but it's true I still check in on the game and watch some videos about it because I care about the OW world and their characters. Honestly, Blizzard was very foolish to waste the potential of OW's world and characters by trying to force an eSport in OWL. It's a shame this world will never be fully realized.
I caught this halfway through the premier while grinding comp and didn't want to start halfway through :((
I almost didn't click on the video because of pfp- The rest of the thumbnail and title screamed viveros, but I was lost for a moment 😭
I commented this before watching the video and find it hilarious now- Can't wait to get use to the new branding 😂
I'd actually initially planned on leaving the channel pfp alone for a while for this exact reason, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to change it while the video was happening so I could see the reactions in the live chat lol
The characters are definitely what kept me interested in OW. Before I had a computer or any gaming console I watched the Overwatch shorts and knew about the characters from fanmade content, even if I never joined the fandom. SEVERAL YEARS later when I was able to buy a ps4, I started playing and was already familiar with the majority of characters. My sole reason for grinding the game was to unlock Sombra and play as her bc I fell in love with her character and how they integrated her nationality into her design. I know some people don’t care about representation that much but it makes me so giddy and happy to see the cool Mexican themes to her outfits and Mexican slang in her voice lines. It’s like “hey! I recognize that! I know what that means/is 😊!”. Literally the only time I have given Blizzard money was so I could get her Baile Folklórico inspired outfit in the last battle pass. It’s very nice to see aspects of my culture portrayed as something cool, pretty, and badass 💜
Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery well written script. I was missing sooo much content like this for the Overwatch community 🥺🥺 Thank you so much for this!!
another great video, i always find myself disagreeing with you when it comes to your views on gameplay but your videos are still always very well researched and thought out
Great insightful video, earned a sub today
That transition into the Vtuber model was so cool!!! Good job 💪
Hey! I'm really loving where this channel is going but I wanted to ask if maybe you'd consider boosting the treble on your vocals a bit? They're a bit bassy and on a few of my devices it can sometimes make it hard to understand!
I can definitely see about that! No promises, I’m not much of an audio engineer and my voice/equipment just might not be able to make it work much, but I’ll look into it and see if there’s a way to make it happen.
Casually changes his identity mid video LMAO
I'm not a fan of vtubers personally but your model has some of the better tracking I've seen to be built on a smaller budget (particularly there's no body horror going on with the eye tracking specifically). Well done. ✨
Fantastic video!!!!
shoutout to fusion frenzy. that game was a huge part of my childhood
A small example of a voice changing all of a sudden is Mercy' "Take two and call ke in the morning!" 😂
Your avatar reminds me of code from boruto. Really good video
If Viveros is inspired by the channels mentioned in this video, I’ll be watching happily! Brian David Gilbert and Razbuten are top-tier.
I'm a big fan of all the people I mentioned, but honestly I think BDG's had the biggest impact on my content - there are more than a couple videos on the channel where I was going for a bit of Unraveled energy haha
HAPPY BIRTHDAY idk if im late or not BUT STILLL
Also saying "not just because he's hot" about Lifeweaver is so true wtf
I just wanna say I've grown attached to the sombra logo, and it will be missed.
I was like "omg danganronpa background music" and then you started TALKING about them and i loved that
I use it pretty regularly in my videos, so I thought it'd be funny to have it actually be relevant for once lol
I need the clue video desperately
Honestly the Clue one is the one I'm *really* pulling for, I'm hoping the members pick it lol
The voice of Cassidy also voiced Yusuke in Persona 5.
Genji and lucio are my favorite designs in the game
7:43 as a Nigerian we would take the mad max trio in a heartbeat
You're right, you can make a strong foundation from a bunch of planks of wood
Jesus.........fusion frenzy.......haven't heard that name in like 18 years
Not super related to the video but have you played Virtue's Last Reward, and if so how do you feel about it? I know people love 999 but I always liked VLR a lot more
I actually just started playing it on Twitch a week or two ago! I’ve only gotten about 8-ish hours into VLR but I already like it a lot more than 999. Imo, it does a way better job with its characters, and it doesn’t spend hours beating you over the head with exposition. Part of the vod from one of those streams is actually in this video - in the bit where I talk about VTubers during the voice section and show a bunch of VTuber streams, you can see mine in the bottom right corner as I was getting the results for the very first AB room vote (I went with Alice and tried to ally with her, rip).
omg i love the 999 part i am hyped for the video if it won yay
omg this video was so slick lesgooo
loved that you said “calavera” instead of “skull” 😊 I’m puertorrican, not mexican, but still
When you showed all the silhouettes in the casino, who was on the far left? It's driving me crazy
I want to tell you, but depending on when you left this comment in the video you might’ve already gotten an answer lol
@@TheViveros oh lmao it's you isn't it
oooooo flower preetty
Happy birthday!
But fck you for giving me ptsd to my 2020 danganronpa phase 😔
this is so well written, loved what you said about hammonds voice design, linking it to vtubers, crazy.
That's actually specifically Kreig, not just any random psycho
32:32 I SSSSCCCRRREEEEAAAMMMMEEEEEDDDD
Goddamn this video’s well made
>You love the color orange
my brother, I've finally found you.
ps: this is my new fav video from you - its obvious you went a bit extra on this compared to past vids, so good
pss: I think the "fabric strap thing" you're talking about is probably the 'pelvic curtain'?
Thank you so much! I definitely did put in a lot more time and effort on this one, especially towards the end, and I’m so glad it paid off. Being an orange fan is a hard life, but god gives his toughest battles (not liking some boring shit like blue) to his strongest soldiers. Also, glad to know that that thing has a name!
@@TheViveros Hahahaha. So true, king. It'd be so much easier if I liked blue, pink, or black this much. I'm a little surprised you didn't incorporate orange into your avatar design! My character has (slightly heterochromatic orange-red/orange-yellow) eyes and a little orange heart mark on one cheek.
No L2D/3D model yet, but y'know how it be!
Honestly, the main reasons for not having orange in my model was that I really wanted to run with a rose-heavy aesthetic, and I just couldn't find a way to make orange work with it. Orange is a hard colour to work with since it's such a fine line between looking washed out, muddy, or out of place, and especially since I was really set on the pink and green I figured it was better to just leave the orange for another time. I did use a recoloured version of the model's jacket with blue and orange in my vods channel thumbnail, though, and it did turn out pretty nice.
And yeah, it's a struggle to get a model - finding someone whose style you like who's available and within your price range is a challenge, especially for male VTubers. Hopefully you're able to find one soon, the model concept sounds cute!
happy birthday
I love how we are both Sombra mains but our huds are completely color swapped. I have purple/magenta as my team color and neon green as my enemy color
It’s a good colour combo in either direction! I swapped it to magenta and green to match the rebrand a while back, and since I used magenta for the enemy team already I just made green the friendly colour.
Amazing Viveros W
Your new character reminds me of my switch controllers
We might have the same joycons then haha, they actually helped me decide what specific shades I wanted for it
y’know honestly weird comparison but another franchise that’s… struggled in the media spotlight, Sonic the Hedgehog, has also been really carried by their characters, like just watching your video it sounds so oddly familiar 😭
First watch of your videos. Gagged I wasn't brought here sooner, as a fellow Som main-homosexual. Lol. Just subbed.
well thought out and worded video, as always. thank you for touching on the way blizzard communicates character. i think an example of blizzard dropping the ball with convoying a hero's character is with kiriko. in the cinematic she's a caring gentle soul, that's not afraid to fight back if pushed too hard. in game however, she's a bratty bitch. like she seriously tells hanzo (her childhood friend btw) that her mother (he's wanna know "if he kept up with the sword", which he gave up after almost killing his bother, genji (her other childhood friend). which brought hanzo shame, guilt, and grief that he still carries with him even after genji himself told him he forgave him, to his own face. then she casually tells him, she's telling her mother "you're thinking of picking it back up.".
btw, i also would like to know your thoughts on OW's current 3 roles (tank-dps-support), and 1-2-2 (5v5) role lock set ups. since some character's don't "feel right" at the assigned role, like doomfist who doesn't fit quite right as a main tank, now, but was too "tanky" to fit back at his former assigned role, as a DPS.
I know it’s a bit of a hot take, but I think Kiriko’s personality actually does really work. She’s a bull in a china shop who’s not always the most subtle, but she knows when she has to turn on the respect for her mother. With Hanzo, I think she’s not really sure how to handle it - their families clearly haven’t spoken in a long time, and she doesn’t seem to know what happened between him and Genji. I interpreted that interaction as her effectively saying “Alright, well, my mom isn’t going to respond well to that answer, so I’m letting you know that I’m going to tell her what she wants to hear and hopefully she won’t push it.” She grew up in a household with a lot of strong personalities between her mother and grandmother, and now she runs with a gang to try to push back against the Hashimotos who’ve taken over Kanezaka - I think it makes sense that she’s a bit of a cocky asshole.
I think the bigger flaw with Kiriko is that Blizzard created a character who’s got some layers to her, and would’ve really benefitted from some more airtime to help contextualize her for people. I definitely see why some people don’t like her, and it’s possible that I’m giving too much credit, but to me she’s actually a really interesting character.
As far as the 1-2-2 stuff goes, I like it, but there’s definitely still some kinks to work out. Doomfist in particular is a really hard concept to make work imo, and I don’t know if they’ll ever be able to get him to a place people are truly happy with just because of how fine a line it is between him being totally useless and totally busted.
The ram at 11:05 was not letting you go xD
He wanted me dead that entire match, it felt personal
open casting call energy lmao
I watched this video in the background while making breakfast and to turn it back on to skip the music part and be greeted with an anime boy was quite the experience! Looks awesome especially for your first time!!!
Also, its one thing to be a sombra main, but sombra main + danganronpa fan is a dead giveaway that you're gay 🤣 I keep things obscure being an ana main