Cropped Ears vs. Natural Ears: Which is Better?

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  • @ci7210
    @ci7210 4 года назад +3999

    Weird how just cropping a doberman's ears makes them look so much more intimidating.

    • @curlyemmm1232
      @curlyemmm1232 4 года назад +146

      C I isn’t it? I suppose it’s because the ears almost look like horns.

    • @mh56487
      @mh56487 4 года назад +242

      yeah, i really wanted a doberman because of how intimidating it looks and i just think thats beautiful. call me dumb but i thought that some dobermans were just born with upright ears and im sad to hear its something you need to operate them to have. I live in a place where cropping is illegal (dont think i would do it anyway now that i know it can lead to harm). If someone knows of a breed similar in size and build to a doberman but which comes with naturally standing ears please respond to this comment. ive always loved big dogs, especially the "dangerous" looking ones with tall builds, short hair and upright ears.

    • @garrettseabaugh120
      @garrettseabaugh120 4 года назад +98

      maja hellborg12 If I were you, I would look into a German Shepherd. The ears naturally stand up after the teething stage.

    • @wavyvic8312
      @wavyvic8312 4 года назад +31

      maja hellborg12 go for the belgium malinois

    • @dereckperez8406
      @dereckperez8406 4 года назад +10

      maja hellborg12 it though the same thing about them being born with them ears

  • @DNightShift
    @DNightShift 4 года назад +4890

    I thought they came with their ears like that

  • @TatsumiOga682
    @TatsumiOga682 4 года назад +667

    So basically its like circumcision

    • @gokhandemir7917
      @gokhandemir7917 4 года назад +12

      😂😂

    • @JohnDoe-rk5ow
      @JohnDoe-rk5ow 4 года назад +8

      yes

    • @939Aed
      @939Aed 4 года назад +13

      @@JohnDoe-rk5ow Most of the vets in the mid 20th century were cats

    • @TheTimSargent
      @TheTimSargent 4 года назад +57

      This was always my response to someone judging me for cropping my dobes ears... “is your son circumcised? ... ok then.”

    • @watcherknightsknight3684
      @watcherknightsknight3684 4 года назад +4

      More like circuscision

  • @dangerdawgs3748
    @dangerdawgs3748 4 года назад +32

    I came to watch this video in interest but as soon as he said “it may be illegal in your country”..... that just said it all for me

    • @SunnyOnTheInside
      @SunnyOnTheInside 3 года назад +1

      Yep. It's a $50k fine and/or 1 year in prison in my country and repeat offenders are banned from owning dogs for 5 years.

  • @annatrigos
    @annatrigos 4 года назад +17

    I fully enjoy all your videos! Thank you for posting such great content! I love my (almost) 2 year old floppy eared European Doberman. You are so right about all those points! And those are the reasons I decided not to crop her ears. But honestly, I think they are beautiful both ways and it's just the owners personal choice. I do get a lot of people praising me when they see her ears not cropped which tells me that people are very vocal about their opinions. I tell them it was just my choice for my own reasons and I am not against ear cropping which I know is not the response they want to hear. Oh well. lol

  • @vanessafinney1809
    @vanessafinney1809 4 года назад +5

    That alert and stowick look with they ears cropped is priceless

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад

      Totally agree Vanessa... but then again I'm kinda of a classic type of guy so I dig the classic look.

  • @karlhungus1965
    @karlhungus1965 3 года назад

    My Doberman was primarily an outside dog and was cropped. He would get ear infections from laying in dry grass and grass particles would get in his ears. I was told not cropping could have helped prevent the infections.

    • @personanon2879
      @personanon2879 3 года назад

      Keeping him indoors would have prevented the constant ear infections too...

  • @kevineholmes9572
    @kevineholmes9572 10 месяцев назад

    Fun fact. Back in the 1930s, Breed Standards were mandated to remove all references that required cropped ears AND they had to provide a description of uncropped ears. It is a false fact that is promoted by ear cropping purists when they say that they have to have cropped ears to be shown in the AKC ring. There is not a single AKC standard that requires ear cropping OR tail docking. Not. A. One.

  • @fabianotoma8401
    @fabianotoma8401 Год назад +583

    Update on Ace - I have gotten him involved in playing some of the games ruclips.net/user/postUgkx1_veP7CApJK_GWy_TczaMciuG64PqJeU and I can see a difference in his confidence already! My other dog played along and he became intrigued - now its a daily part of our routine - about 3 times a day we do the shell game and the muffin tin game. I am so grateful for coming upon your training techniques!

  • @ealtizer01
    @ealtizer01 4 года назад +2405

    This is the most civil comment section I've seen on this topic.... It's nice to see

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +183

      Haha totally agree. I love that everyone is being respectful with each other even with sometimes very different ideas on this topic. My subscribers are just awesome breed ambassadors... that's what I think. :-)

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 4 года назад +2

      not anymore

    • @jeffchase9073
      @jeffchase9073 4 года назад +5

      Not just a dog ..hes my best friend my son my family!!!

    • @jeffchase9073
      @jeffchase9073 4 года назад +5

      I love him more than people!!!!

    • @jocamp5
      @jocamp5 4 года назад +1

      Erik 0619 so far 🤣🤣🤣

  • @gregoryjames7976
    @gregoryjames7976 4 года назад +1383

    Our dog has un-cropped ears. She is very approachable when we take her in public. She likes to give people smiles. In return for treats, of coarse.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +81

      That's really awesome. I love the uncropped look too. They are just all around great looking dogs. Haha... I love that she's so social and approachable.

    • @jennshocrazy-busylife9488
      @jennshocrazy-busylife9488 4 года назад +4

      I am worried about ear infections. Have you had any negative reaction to natural ears?

    • @gregoryjames7976
      @gregoryjames7976 4 года назад +22

      @@jennshocrazy-busylife9488 No ear problems. If I think she has water in the ear I give it a rinse with a peroxide/alcohol mix to dry it out. That is what we used when I was doing a lot of SCUBA diving. Or you can get dedicated ear drops. She will let you know if her ear is bothering her.

    • @angelinabrown3142
      @angelinabrown3142 3 года назад +5

      Dobermans have the best smiles.

    • @paulsecrest9427
      @paulsecrest9427 3 года назад +1

      @@DobermanPlanet please do a video on boxermans. I have one shes adorable.

  • @meiermiri
    @meiermiri 3 года назад +1980

    Kinda weird that you have to change parts of your dogs appearance to fit “breed standards”. Doesn’t sound right to me.

    • @OKjoey86
      @OKjoey86 3 года назад +186

      It's stupid

    • @niamhmajor2733
      @niamhmajor2733 3 года назад +43

      @@OKjoey86 agreed

    • @rackemwells
      @rackemwells 3 года назад +31

      There are breeds that were docked for fairly legitimate reasons. I suppose times have changed, but it’s what the dogs became expected to be.

    • @pbs36
      @pbs36 3 года назад +104

      It's cruel, there are no longer legitimate reasons to do it, if there ever were.

    • @rackemwells
      @rackemwells 3 года назад +69

      @@pbs36 Cruel is from our lens, not the dogs. The Doberman was bred and genetically modified for many years with a very specific goal in mind. Cropping its ears helped achieve that goal. Is that not legitimate enough? It’s a working animal, not a child.

  • @yamylinda
    @yamylinda 4 года назад +1835

    Great video, my Doberman is 3 months old we decided to not crop his ears, and we love how he looks

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +149

      Thank you so much, I'm really glad you enjoyed it! That's great! I love the uncropped look, especially on young Dobies! They are so adorable. I wish you could post a picture here on RUclips comments, I'd love to see him!

    • @juatinlois7657
      @juatinlois7657 4 года назад +24

      My 5 month old doberman didnt get his ears cropped my mom thinks he looks cute

    • @karendelaurey3319
      @karendelaurey3319 4 года назад +26

      Doberman Planet in England it’s illegal to crop tails and ears I have American Akita’s WHOS ears naturally stand up and are erect

    • @stephenjohns9581
      @stephenjohns9581 4 года назад +1

      Thank you

    • @owlwhisker0w031
      @owlwhisker0w031 4 года назад +34

      I hate cropped ears, there are so many lies about them too. They should only be used if the dog is working the whole “they will get ear infections is bull crap”

  • @dobermanpac1064
    @dobermanpac1064 4 года назад +888

    Your being unbiased is why I love your breakdowns.... maybe you should become a newsman!! 😂😂😂

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +45

      Thank you so much Robert!! Haha.. I'd be a horrible newsman.

    • @habanero8192
      @habanero8192 4 года назад +9

      Good idea ... except that news today and so-called journalists are ENTIRELY BIASED. Our host here is SUPERIOR to any current journalist, news caster or news pundit ... and I mean in every way!

    • @meganroth6915
      @meganroth6915 4 года назад

      Robert Sparkes Haha i have been researching Doberman videos and you have been in loads of them (including this and Katy Bing)

    • @nignamedmutt7270
      @nignamedmutt7270 2 года назад

      Lol if he's unbiased that would make him the world's worst newsman.
      First requirement for any major news company is LOYALTY TO ONE'S PUBLISHER!

  • @DrEnglander1999
    @DrEnglander1999 3 года назад +668

    I'm in the UK where ear cropping and tail docking is illegal (with a couple of exceptions) and the dobes I've met over here are so expressive. Like all dogs, they use their ears and tails to communicate, and to show how they are feeling, and to take their ears and tails away from them is unnecessary and cruel, which is why it's been banned.

    • @entitledbobcat
      @entitledbobcat 2 года назад +65

      I rescued a cropped dog , and I can promise you that it doesn’t prevent them from using their ears to communicate. It’s a misconception. I don’t understand why people use the claim it takes away their ability to communicate with their ears when there’s even more breeds out there with drop ears so heavy they can’t move them (hounds and spaniels mostly) and sometimes these heavy drop ears also contribute to chronic ear infections (once again, hounds and spaniels namely). It just seems weird.

    • @daraghcarroll7398
      @daraghcarroll7398 2 года назад +102

      @@entitledbobcat It's a purely cosmetic surgery that you are preforming on an animal. How can you justify that in anyway? Putting an animal under anesthesia with opioids, alpha 2 agonist and local anaesthetic drugs to make him look more appealing for an instagram photo.

    • @entitledbobcat
      @entitledbobcat 2 года назад +30

      @@daraghcarroll7398 I didn’t say I was justifying it, just simply clearing up a misunderstanding.

    • @Blake-ld7mx
      @Blake-ld7mx 2 года назад +14

      @@daraghcarroll7398 I agree with you to do this just for mere style is messed up.

    • @DrEnglander1999
      @DrEnglander1999 2 года назад +8

      @@entitledbobcat I understand perfectly well, thank-you. I just disagree. :)

  • @Two_Buck
    @Two_Buck 4 года назад +1596

    Great video. When I got my Doberman I was determined to get his ears cropped. I just absolutely love that look. After getting him I wavered a bit because of the unnecessary discomfort it may cause him and the maintenance. Also, other family members weren't that thrilled about it. None the less I made the appointment and headed up to the vet. The whole way there I had a strange feeling. I looked at my puppy and saw how incredibly young he was but more so how incredibly beautiful he was. About halfway to the vet I turned around and went home and never looked back.
    I don't regret not getting them done at all. I don't have any judgments against people who have their dog's ears cropped, to each his own. As I said, I absolutely love the cropped look and I may even do it someday with a different dog. But I also love my Zeus just the way he is. He is so beautiful and such a great dog. I think he still looks amazing.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +166

      That's a great story Chuck. I'm sure your dog is amazing looking with his natural ears! I wish RUclips comments allowed pictures, I'd love to see Zeus!

    • @Two_Buck
      @Two_Buck 4 года назад +63

      @@DobermanPlanet That's him in my thumbnail. He was younger then. He has since grown into his ears. :)

    • @ilovepizza8263
      @ilovepizza8263 4 года назад +22

      TwoBuck Chuck hey our Dobermans name is also Zeus and we decided to leave his ears alone as well :)

    • @Two_Buck
      @Two_Buck 4 года назад +22

      @@ilovepizza8263 Very cool. That is a great name for a majestic dog like the Doberman. Cropping their ears or not doesn't affect their personality. They are just all-around great dogs. I hope your dog brings you as much joy as mine does.

    • @unaestrella1876
      @unaestrella1876 4 года назад +25

      Woah I've honestly never seen a dobermen with uncropped ears. They looks softer and more natural. I always thought dobermen naturally looked like the way when they have cropped ears.

  • @becbartell2780
    @becbartell2780 4 года назад +720

    My Dobermann has floppy ears and still has his tail. He looks gorgeous except it hurts like hell when you accidentally get whacked by his wagging tail 😂

    • @lesliejacobs1439
      @lesliejacobs1439 3 года назад +50

      And clears off the coffee table

    • @mitika2320
      @mitika2320 3 года назад +12

      Worth it. :P

    • @anupritaduggal8407
      @anupritaduggal8407 3 года назад +3

      Mine too ,both of them 😂

    • @jugz9130
      @jugz9130 3 года назад

      @BLACK BEARD 😆

    • @tsuyuasuiskid5287
      @tsuyuasuiskid5287 3 года назад +6

      Same but it have a black lab mix named Taco and a curr pit mix i think named sundae and their tails hurt T^T I also have a mini pomeranian named Tink and she is old so she gets really happy when she "sees" me (she's half blind) it's more of when she hears me if she can hear me idk she she gets really happy witch leads her to jumping an inch of the ground then barking.

  • @erinzlove
    @erinzlove 2 года назад +449

    I’m Australia it’s illegal 👍🏼 I looooove my Dobes velvet ears and full c shaped tail. They communicate so much through both! Can’t imagine putting them through cosmetic surgery.

    • @entitledbobcat
      @entitledbobcat 2 года назад +16

      Dogs with cropped ears still communicate with them just fine! My rescue who had cropped ears has more expressive ears than my cocker spaniel (who has ears too heavy to move).

    • @Lakeshow0024
      @Lakeshow0024 2 года назад +6

      Not in the US👍🏿

    • @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR
      @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR 2 года назад +7

      Doberman tails are very sensitive and can be injured or broken quite easily, and that is very painful for the dog, and then you have to do the surgery anyways.

    • @BioTheHuman
      @BioTheHuman 2 года назад +28

      @@justafloridamanfromthe75thRR If they're so sensitive, doesn't this mean that the pain after operation must be super painful for them?
      Moreover, cote source thanks.

    • @gregjorda3080
      @gregjorda3080 2 года назад +6

      I agree on the cosmetic surgery end of the conversation....i don't agree with cosmetic surgery for dog or man unless special circumstances (birth defects and injuries) not to change your appearance but for repair

  • @fionafox420
    @fionafox420 4 года назад +606

    My big boy still has his ears and tail. He’s never had any trouble hearing, or issues with infections, or injuries on our hikes. He’s still plenty intimidating when he’s being standoffish, he is 110lbs after all lol.

    • @computerjantje
      @computerjantje 3 года назад +23

      In fact dogs with in tact ears can open and close the entrance usually better and with that protect the inside of the ear better. This means less chance on ear infection with ears in tact.

    • @coffeehugger
      @coffeehugger 2 года назад +7

      My dogs are natural also but the tail, the tail is a gift that never stops giving. Can knock an eye out with that, leaves bruises on our legs.

    • @tom20152
      @tom20152 2 года назад +1

      The old man in my neiborhood who was smoking since teen and never stop smorking till he die at the age of 87.

    • @khalidbinwaleed5072
      @khalidbinwaleed5072 2 года назад

      Bless you

    • @lordschokostange4679
      @lordschokostange4679 Год назад +1

      @@coffeehugger I agree!! My pup is only 7 months old and his tail Hurts!!! On the other hand, it's funny if you place your dog just right to whip whoever you like😂

  • @Annageckoss
    @Annageckoss 4 года назад +420

    I do like the look of cropped ears but I wouldn't do it. I didn't have my dane's ears done and wouldn't if I do end up with a dobie. I'm not fond of docking either unless there is a real reason not just tradition, standard or cosmetic. I won't judge others for doing it, it's just not something I am comfortable putting my own dogs through for looks.

    • @susanneconway
      @susanneconway 4 года назад +8

      tails can break on working dogs . then you definitely have a problem

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +29

      Great philosophy! I can totally see why there are a lot of people who wouldn't want to do it. Either way I think these are great looking dogs!

    • @femkewisman3780
      @femkewisman3780 4 года назад +17

      @@susanneconway In the off chance it does, your vet can usually set it, just like you would a broken leg or you could dock the rail then, as you now have a medical reason to do so. But untill something goes wrong with the rail, why would you put your animal through the trauma of removing it?

    • @thelorelei2807
      @thelorelei2807 4 года назад +6

      Femke Wisman they are so young they won’t remember it, so definitely NOT trauma. It might hurt a little then, but now they don’t have to go through the (actual) trauma of breaking a tail later and remembering it. The tail docking helps you not have to pay for medical procedures, and not have to pay for broken furniture. Why wait until they break something to dock the tail? It’s just more money and more pain.

    • @kazumahazeuzumaki
      @kazumahazeuzumaki 4 года назад +20

      Maybe get an animal you don't have to mutilate just to save money later.

  • @ClassAPapi
    @ClassAPapi 3 года назад +525

    I seriously can't make a decision. I love the look of cropped ears/tail but I'm also unwilling to submit my puppy into pain rollercoaster just for an "improved" appearance. I love my dog and wouldn't want anything bad to go during/after surgery. Damn.

    • @tusharkakshapati7610
      @tusharkakshapati7610 3 года назад +200

      Don't do it, change of trend has to start somewhere.

    • @ophiolatreia93
      @ophiolatreia93 3 года назад +149

      You can't make a decision on whether to abuse your dog by slashing his ears? It's cruel. Don't

    • @foxyrider7840
      @foxyrider7840 3 года назад +53

      People will be less likely to attack you and your dog if your dog's ears are cropped. Erect ears naturally insight fear into the human brain this is why the breed's creator did it. So you can say that this is better for your pup in the long run.

    • @swapnilchaudhary2944
      @swapnilchaudhary2944 3 года назад +14

      I agree with ears but tail is whole different thing. I would suggest you to do some research on it

    • @foxyrider7840
      @foxyrider7840 3 года назад +6

      @@swapnilchaudhary2944 It is a different thing, that is why I didn't address it. Just talking about the ears here.

  • @terribphd
    @terribphd 4 года назад +195

    Thanks for presenting both sides on this as unbiased as possible. You made a really good point about the floppy ear making the breed look less intimidating, which would be a great benefit for service and therapy animals (but not so much for protection or "aversion" dogs).

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +13

      So glad you enjoyed they video, thank you for the kind words! Yeah I really do think is a LOT of situations a softer looking Dobie can be a great thing.

    • @blueballs6662
      @blueballs6662 4 года назад +5

      I disagree my 4 dobermans doesnt have their ears cropped. They Bit both burglars arm and broke it .he was trying to stab my dog when he got in. Good thing i also have a shotgun so i shot him in the shoulder and knee. So i think
      Being a protection dog trainer and and an avid hunter has its perks. Burglar lived though. No more crimes for him

    • @IllusionQueen4Eva
      @IllusionQueen4Eva 4 года назад +13

      If you want your dog to guard your house effectively, you should probably have it trained to do so. I'm pretty sure a floppy-eared dobie can learn to be a guard dog just as well as one with cropped ears. I doubt a burglar would be stupid enough to think that a barking, growling dog is less dangerous just because it has floppy ears. And even if said burglar truly is that idiotic, that's even better. They'll never see it comin'.

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 4 года назад +1

      I think you just nailed it.
      People crop ears and dock tails to make their dogs look more dangerous to intimidate other people - end of conversation.
      Springer spaniels are so crazy they can thrash the end off their tail off against furniture - the end docking in breeds like that is the only non cosmetic surgery commonly performed on dogs.
      All other surgery is to appeal to owners who want dogs that look assertive and threatening.

    • @allypezz
      @allypezz 3 года назад

      But isn't it better to have a Clark Kent type dog than a 'put the fear of god in you' dog? The way some people associate a guard dog sounds a bit worrisome.

  • @rileyhalls9301
    @rileyhalls9301 3 года назад +112

    I think the natural ears seems to make the dog more socially acceptable. A bug flew in my ear as a child ,so I think it's often a plus to have a bit more ear protection.

    • @Skyrilla
      @Skyrilla 2 месяца назад

      What the fuck. I swallowed a bug once.

  • @larimatolaganon4946
    @larimatolaganon4946 4 года назад +555

    They look so much cuter with floppy ears. Unless it's for a health issue, why crop? Can you do cropped tails next? If I recall correctly, in one of your other video's you mentions how brittle the bones were and how easily they could break. While I love a dog with a long tail, and love it on rotties, if broken bones is such a huge issue for dobbies, I can see the reason to crop em.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +56

      Great idea for a video, thank you. I have it on my list of ideas for future videos! The good thing about tail docking also is that it's done when the dogs are just a few days old and is much easier for the dog than ear cropping.

    • @camilledabert
      @camilledabert 4 года назад +60

      There's no more reason for a dog to break its tail than break a leg. If you dont go and close doors on it you'll be totally fine. Whatever the breed is, cutting the tail is barbaric, often done poorly and painful. Just like the dehorning of veals ir declawing of cats or cropping of ears. It is un unnecessary process. Why cut the tail in fear that it will break when the chances of it are so so low? And if the dog breaks its tail? Have it removed! Even on adults it's an easy procedure with minor risks with the anesthesia considering the size of the adults.

    • @Realestatepenny
      @Realestatepenny 4 года назад +61

      There is absolutely no reason to get your dogs ears cropped. Ever. Would you slice off half of your child’s ear? Literally wtf is the point?

    • @afunkylittleguy
      @afunkylittleguy 4 года назад +29

      Annagrace MUA we didn’t crop our boxers ears but I think we should have. She is constantly scratching her ears and she’s already had at least one ear infection. We hope it’s just from allergies but we haven’t had her tested yet.

    • @albertcalleros9489
      @albertcalleros9489 4 года назад +2

      Not to mention extraordinarily sweet.

  • @ennosense
    @ennosense 4 года назад +347

    I have a 6 1/2 year old Doberman and her ears and tail are both normal (floppy and a full tail). I live in Australia but even if I lived somewhere that it was legal, I still wouldn’t have it done. She looks amazing the way she does. As for the “somebody may not recognise that it’s a Doberman without the cropped ears”, I honestly couldn’t care less. She’s part of my family, not a trophy that I parade around.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +23

      Yeah I love the natural look too... great looking dogs no matter what in my opinion. Yeah I wouldn't really care about the not getting recognized quickly as a Doberman thing at all EXCEPT for the benefits it has for protecting the family. Most people know a Doberman is not a dog to mess with.... but a hound is a different story. And around here, uncropped Dobies are so rare that most think they're a hound of some kind. I think if uncropped were more common around here (in the U.S.) that would change though.

    • @IllusionQueen4Eva
      @IllusionQueen4Eva 4 года назад +15

      “People not recognizing that it’s a Doberman without the cropped ears” just means that they're ignorant. I don't see why it would be a justifiable reason to crop your dog's ears just because some ignorant people can't tell what the breed is. It's actually a good opportunity to educate those people when they ask.

    • @Fumi007
      @Fumi007 4 года назад +7

      @Simone Vasquez That's part of the reason I don't want my dog's ears cropped when we get it (next year). I want people to come up to me and be interested in meeting my dog! Even more so now that I learned cropped ears limits the dog's expression capability!

    • @arcticablue
      @arcticablue 3 года назад

      I am not used to seeing them with natural ears and tails and found a picture of them on a video for the song Everything U Need by Overmono. You can find several pictures of the same dogs on the internet if you do a Google search. They are far more beautiful in their natural state than to have that cropped look! ruclips.net/video/k9fzUySXd-4/видео.html

    • @meekonnikki
      @meekonnikki 5 месяцев назад

      ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @DanRichter
    @DanRichter 3 года назад +23

    How much of an improvement to their hearing could it possibly be? It's like moving the couch an inch closer to the TV so I can hear it better.

  • @tracynolan7135
    @tracynolan7135 3 года назад +222

    Having been a vet tech and assisting in many ear cropping, I don't recommend it.

    • @valentinarossello2386
      @valentinarossello2386 3 года назад +21

      Can you tell me a little bit about why? I am trying make a decision

    • @rackemwells
      @rackemwells 3 года назад +4

      Also, do you have opinions on docking?

    • @simonk9995
      @simonk9995 3 года назад +22

      @@valentinarossello2386 It’s kind of cruel.

    • @valentinarossello2386
      @valentinarossello2386 3 года назад +29

      @@simonk9995 Yes I understand people saying it's cruel, but I do like to know about why a vet won't recommend it, I mean clinical reasons. My dobbie won't have his ears cropped tho, just want to know about it.

    • @mj-ls7qr8xp3n
      @mj-ls7qr8xp3n 3 года назад +9

      Gotta say, my pup wasn't same after having his ears done. :(. He was always a sweetheart, but it did have an effect...

  • @Swell_Character
    @Swell_Character 5 месяцев назад +9

    While I am more of a fancier of bulldogs (pit bulls), my father used to own dobermans. They were mighty fine dogs. He would always get the ears cropped. While I can definitely see why some folks choose the more refined, harder cropped look, I tend to leave ears natural on dogs. I would never turn away a good dog with cropped ears, but I personally would not go out of my way to pay hundreds of dollars for cosmetic surgery for dogs. I would instead invest that money into their upkeep, plus I think they look good as is. Another reason is I think it can also be important that folks see dogs of a certain breed in their natural state. With bulldogs, there are plenty of popular examples of uncropped ears folks can look to. However, for breeds like dobermans, there are folks that would look at a full-blooded doberman and think it is a mongrel because the dog's ears are not cropped. That never set well with me.

  • @SparkleDeath
    @SparkleDeath 4 года назад +251

    We just got our doberman puppy this past weekend! We decided we are going to keep her ears natural.

    • @laurenp6992
      @laurenp6992 4 года назад +29

      In my personal opinion that’s a great choice. Why go through the unnecessary pain for a ridiculous surgery cost just to maintain breed “standards”. But people have the right to crop their dog’s ears, it’s their choice

    • @sunnyg7038
      @sunnyg7038 4 года назад +13

      Gg i hate this earcropping business.

    • @naomi-art-stuff
      @naomi-art-stuff 4 года назад +5

      Yay 💖

    • @Justarandomcat2
      @Justarandomcat2 3 года назад +2

      @@laurenp6992 it's not painful unless done incorrectly

    • @herbpaisley6307
      @herbpaisley6307 3 года назад +9

      @@laurenp6992 If they truly feel their dogs ears need cropping, let them imagine having the procedure done to themselves. Imagine the months of pain done to you so someone can claim breed standard.

  • @reesadreamer5009
    @reesadreamer5009 4 года назад +77

    I'm Australian and my Dobermans have always had natural ears. They still scare the crap out of intruders, and the fur on the ears is super soft!

    • @anz10
      @anz10 4 года назад +9

      The floppy ears are wonderful, cute and expressive etc. and yes floppy eared dobbies can be just as scary, its not all about the up ear look, it's their training, stance, gaze, loyalty etc. People still recognise them as dobermans too unless it's from a bad breeder..

    • @angelinabrown3142
      @angelinabrown3142 3 года назад +1

      OMD, it IS. I really miss petting my boy's super-silky ears.

    • @SunnyOnTheInside
      @SunnyOnTheInside 3 года назад

      The softest

    • @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR
      @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR 2 года назад

      @@anz10 no they are not as intimidating and average people won't recognse them, stop spreading false information online

    • @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR
      @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR 2 года назад

      Just to let you know floppy ears are UNNATURAL as they are a result of breeding, there are no floppy ears in nature, therefore cropping them turns them back to being more natural and it is also more healthy for the dog

  • @fructosecornsyrup5759
    @fructosecornsyrup5759 2 года назад +70

    Honestly I love the erect ears on dobermans. It looks regal, in a way, though I wish someone would start a breeding program with the doberman and cross with a few dogs that naturally have that trait like pharaoh hounds instead so it didn't have to be cropped.

    • @caveman3079
      @caveman3079 Год назад +1

      You don't chop parts of an animal off because you like the 'aesthetic' this is a living breathing creature. This is sick and disgusting.

    • @SaikmayLayra
      @SaikmayLayra 10 месяцев назад

      A dog should be chosen by needs and Charakter not looks it's selfish and had nothing to do with love caus it's not an object ..

  • @vanessagonzalez7862
    @vanessagonzalez7862 4 года назад +229

    I love the look of a cropped Doberman but would personally opt for natural ears since I like taking my dogs everywhere with me

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +21

      Totally get it. Uncropped would certainly be better in all types of situations. Thanks for dropping a comment Vanessa!

    • @TheGoodOlBoyzChannel
      @TheGoodOlBoyzChannel 4 года назад +17

      Floppy ears are man made, pointed ears are natural, look at wolves, foxes, coyotes etc....

    • @Gababstract
      @Gababstract 4 года назад +9

      Uncropped ears is not natural but human made so :/

    • @Gababstract
      @Gababstract 4 года назад

      Metabolic Horse nicely said

    • @thefallenx9786
      @thefallenx9786 4 года назад +31

      @@TheGoodOlBoyzChannel if it's born that way it's the dogs natural look

  • @WormHome
    @WormHome 4 года назад +53

    You look exactly like Toby from the office.

  • @IchNaturally
    @IchNaturally 3 года назад +142

    Forget about whether it’s legal or not, but rather, isn’t ear cropping inhumane?

    • @deving.9849
      @deving.9849 3 года назад +25

      Isn't getting circumcised also inhumane?

    • @IchNaturally
      @IchNaturally 3 года назад +46

      @@deving.9849 Yes. It is.

    • @deving.9849
      @deving.9849 3 года назад +10

      @@IchNaturally I agree

    • @BobJJ9999
      @BobJJ9999 3 года назад +2

      Yep!

    • @maxherrlin241
      @maxherrlin241 3 года назад +32

      I never understood why people make such a big deal about ear cropping yet fail to talk about tail docking or even circumcision? Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

  • @essa6315
    @essa6315 4 года назад +11

    It's an easy question. Do you want to buy a dog and mutilate it just because you think it looks better?

    • @Jasonrm92
      @Jasonrm92 4 года назад +2

      This is the one and only correct answer.

    • @heeho3656
      @heeho3656 4 года назад

      Well it also prevents ear infections. Just for thought, in nature there are no floppy ears.

    • @iwieldkeys
      @iwieldkeys 3 года назад

      @@heeho3656 Elephants?

    • @DrBitchcraft.
      @DrBitchcraft. 3 года назад

      @@heeho3656 many animal breeds get ear infections, teeth problems, eye infections etc. Not every dane gets ear infections. Mutilating is illegal in most european countries.

    • @lavaloo933
      @lavaloo933 2 года назад

      @@heeho3656 studies show that it doesn’t effect rates of ear infections. Studies also show that the affect of cropping ears as well as docking tails can lead to potential behavioural issues later on from the trauma. Granted not every dog is traumatized by it, it’s still a concern with such a large breed. Dogs also have a harder time communicating with other dogs as they can’t move their ears as easily, which can also be a concern. A lot of people who get their dogs ears cropped also get it done without numbing, which I imaging would be extremely painful.

  • @BlueNight25
    @BlueNight25 Год назад +2

    Idk, everyone have their own tastes, for me not cropped Dobermans look stupid and awful , because that big ears don't suits them 😅 . So I only accept cropped ones

  • @benjaminfranklin4149
    @benjaminfranklin4149 4 года назад +196

    My doberman's ears are cropped and she looks great, but I respect anyone who decides they don't want to.

    • @GermanicHispanic
      @GermanicHispanic 4 года назад +8

      I have a Cane corso cropped his ears and got a lot of hate for it, but he's beautiful and looks majestic and intimidating.

    • @MrZombs123
      @MrZombs123 4 года назад +8

      @marcos He did say some breeders just do it automatically before the dogs go to a new home when they are pups.. :)

    • @liatui791
      @liatui791 4 года назад +5

      @Jeffy aww don't crop the ears. It's basically animal cruelty :( it can hurt the dog a lot and there is no reason to crop them. People only crop them for their needs, not the dogs.

    • @gorotrickster3280
      @gorotrickster3280 4 года назад +27

      @@liatui791 its not animal cruelty at all since it doesn't hurt it can just be annoying at first so if u would, don't basically call people selfish just because they cropping ears.

    • @FOXYPOT
      @FOXYPOT 4 года назад +6

      I'm going to crop mine as well. I just adopted one!

  • @boborque1879
    @boborque1879 3 года назад +38

    if cropped ears were more beneficial for the dog, they would naturally have them

    • @SymonnePat
      @SymonnePat 3 года назад +2

      I agree! Changing your dogs ears for “looks” is uncalled for👏🏾

    • @tupacisalive1236
      @tupacisalive1236 3 года назад +1

      But people breed bad dogs every time just because it’s natural doesn’t make it good.but I personally think it’s a choice the owner should make.

    • @saskia3346
      @saskia3346 3 года назад +7

      If pugs were meant to breathe properly they would naturally be able to do so.

    • @Scorpio1060-
      @Scorpio1060- 3 года назад +3

      Floppy eared dogs are man made by breeding. Nature made dogs with erect ears.

    • @vad8712
      @vad8712 3 года назад +2

      WE created floppy ears by domestication, there are ZERO wild canines with floppy ears. "Cropped" ears are natural lol and by cropped I mean upright and erect.

  • @brettlynn7753
    @brettlynn7753 4 года назад +207

    As someone that works with a Doberman Rescue, i will say that dobermans with cropped ears get adopted out a lot faster than those without, by a landslide...so much faster. My personal dogs has cropped ears, and that was a requirement of the breeder, as all her pups must go out as American "breed standard".

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +43

      Interesting... I didn't consider the factor of how easy it would be to re-home one with cropped vs. natural ears!

    • @brettlynn7753
      @brettlynn7753 4 года назад +25

      @@DobermanPlanet Its sad but a true fact, if you were to poll some other doberman rescue orgs you would probably hear the same. While what their ears look like don't have anything to do with their temperment, most will want the prototypical breed standard...beauty above function...I am not for or against cropping. I had mine cropped, but it believe it should be done by a vet that specializes in the process, and gives proper aftercare. There are many ways to make the ears stand that are easier than others..without sticky tape, glue etc that sometimes causes irritation...but i will say after your pup goes through the ear cropping process, there is pretty much nothing you can do to their ears that will casue any offence. where some dogs don't like their ears messed with mine loves it, and he loves the extra attention his tall ears get!

    • @merlin4real
      @merlin4real 4 года назад +10

      Makes sense. It does look better.

    • @bierjip1
      @bierjip1 4 года назад +29

      Why do people want a dog to go through surgery when it isn't necessay? And standards for dogs also cause some breeders to create dogs that can breathe or run properly, so it is better and more decent to let pups be instead of going for a look. You can choose your own look, but leave others or other creatures alone.

    • @merlin4real
      @merlin4real 4 года назад +27

      @@bierjip1 or, we could choose freedom, and everyone can do as they please with the thing that they own.

  • @markzick9236
    @markzick9236 4 года назад +106

    Why doesn't someone develop a Melinos crossed with the Doberman that looks like a Doberman but retains the Melinos ear structure? This would eliminate the barbaric practice of ear cutting. I was a genetic major. It would take very few generations of x-breeding to achieve the errect ears and Doberman body structure.

    • @habanero8192
      @habanero8192 4 года назад +3

      Belgian Malinois you say? Is that possible?

    • @soof9727
      @soof9727 4 года назад +25

      Haba Ñero, no. It is not that easy because the pups would have mixed features, not just a Dobermann with erect ears

    • @MadCheshireHat
      @MadCheshireHat 4 года назад +9

      I was just thinking this. Not with a Malinois specifically, though. It would take time (multiple generations) and special selection and planning whatnot, but that's how breeds developed in the first place.

    • @rachelhood5747
      @rachelhood5747 4 года назад +6

      That's why it needs to be part of a breeding program. You can absolutely breed to get the same temperament and features over time when outcrossing.
      Doberman's need it anyway with all their heart problems.

    • @pteifert
      @pteifert 4 года назад +2

      Nova The Service Dog it actually is that easy. A new breed with features you want can be obtained in just 10 generations. This is how different breeds developed to begin with. Dogs are the easiest animal to manipulate genes with through selective breeding. They are already mostly there.

  • @zenforhorses
    @zenforhorses Год назад +20

    Wow. I didn't know there was that much after care for cropped ears. But I do want to say I love the way you show both sides, very good reasons for and against cropping, and the way you talk about them with so much love for the dogs, your followers, and their families. I'm just so glad I found you before I get my Dobie. I will be a good owner. I am a serious animal lover, and my dogs are all properly taken care of, but Dobies are a obviously a breed very different from all others and I like to do my homework first. You rock 😊

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  Год назад +1

      Wow this comment made my day! Thank you so much Jennifer!!

  • @PirateOfTheNorth
    @PirateOfTheNorth 4 года назад +23

    The floppy ears are cute. It’s banned in my country (Belgium).

  • @DarkIllusia
    @DarkIllusia 4 года назад +37

    Think most of the for cropping points are just excuses. People just like the looks so just admit. I give credit to those who do. I grew up loving dobies and didn't know it wasn't natural. I'm over it. Your dogs can hear just fine and most donors don't get ear infections. The current day breeds doesn't look like they did 100 years ago. Most are more extreme today. Dobies use to look more muscular and the crop reminds me of one of the cuts a pit bull would get. Dobies have gotten more fine boned and sleek. I think the show crop makes them more "pretty". If a dog has been training for guarding you will know it. Their pose and focus show it.

    • @afunkylittleguy
      @afunkylittleguy 4 года назад +1

      We didn’t crop our dogs ears but she gets ear infections still...

    • @404EncrytedError
      @404EncrytedError 4 года назад

      Well, no. Not all of them.

    • @404EncrytedError
      @404EncrytedError 4 года назад

      And the stockier and size doesn't mean functionality.

    • @laurenp6992
      @laurenp6992 4 года назад

      Ear cropping has little impact on likelihood of ear infections. Dogs with cropped ears can still get chronic infections like any other dog, it just sadly comes down to the dog

  • @charproulx
    @charproulx Год назад +2

    If anyone has to ask that question or is considering it, they shouldn’t be getting a dog, or any pet for that matter

  • @Msspinnerb8
    @Msspinnerb8 4 года назад +22

    Locked, cocked, cropped and docked. That is Doberman. As long as the owner can handle the upkeep of cropped ears then it’s their preference. When the Doberman has a crop that matches the head shape, it’s absolutely on fire.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +3

      I agree that they crop look (i.e. the classic Doberman look) is a great look. These are definitely beautiful dogs.

    • @michellemcmanus2729
      @michellemcmanus2729 4 года назад

      It's cruel! Don't adopt a living into your life just to chop it up to suit yourself!

  • @jeffchase9073
    @jeffchase9073 4 года назад +107

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!!!

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +12

      Totally agree! Any Dobie parent is going to absolutely love their dog regardless of the status of the ears!

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK 4 года назад +1

      jeff chase Beauty is objective, but finding something attractive is subjective. If it was subjective, there’d be no standard or point to the discussion.

    • @monofestian
      @monofestian 3 года назад +2

      You mean beauty is I the the eye of the animal abuser

  • @warriorson7979
    @warriorson7979 Год назад +3

    I think uncropped is better..😒

  • @frostedfelony
    @frostedfelony 4 года назад +17

    I love how they look cropped, but I know how it can be painful.. thank you for this information very nice of you to not bias any view!!

  • @StacyNotStacey
    @StacyNotStacey 4 года назад +31

    I love that this channel is unbiased!
    :D

  • @tipper9120
    @tipper9120 3 года назад +13

    "Ear cropping is less invasive than spaying and neutering...." seems like a legit reason to chop off your dogs ears.

    • @diegodelacuadra2617
      @diegodelacuadra2617 3 года назад +1

      John was just talking from the point of view of someone who supports ear cropping, and people have to recognize something, in the end everybody is going to make up things to try to convince people to agree with them, yes, ear cropping is purely aesthetic, takes several weeks to recover, and up to 8 months of discomfort, and as for spaying/neutering, people say it serves a function, but in the end it's pretty much the same.
      Both are mutilation, and both are completely unnecessary

    • @tipper9120
      @tipper9120 3 года назад

      @@diegodelacuadra2617 I agree... Not needed

  • @Strubbelchen0104
    @Strubbelchen0104 4 года назад +23

    I have had an Irish Setter, a Labrador Mix, a German Shepherd and now I have an uncropped Dobermann. Fortunately none of my dogs ever had any ear infections, but I always clean them from time to time. Especially after a long “digging-session” in the dirt. The dogs usually enjoy it quite a lot and will press their ears to the cloth and even rotate their head.
    My dogs have always just been family dogs, so I can’t speak for dogs used in any kind of professional capacity, but as far as I am concerned, I would never crop the ears or the tail if there isn’t any medical reason. It would be illegal in my country anyway.
    And I don’t really care about the looks. As long as my dogs are healthy and happy they could have three ears for all I care.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +4

      I totally agree with that last line.... happy and healthy is definitely the most important! I love the natural eared Dobermans. I think they look amazing in their own right.

    • @catherinelynnfraser2001
      @catherinelynnfraser2001 4 года назад +1

      I use the epiotic ear solution twice a month. I keep it in the fridge and use a cotton pad to clean my dachshund’s ears. She loves it.

  • @Nova_Akashi
    @Nova_Akashi 4 года назад +48

    I've seen some dobermans with docked tails and uncropped ears but I was wondering do people ever have dobermans with cropped ears but a natural tail?

    • @ronishaellis2968
      @ronishaellis2968 3 года назад +1

      I was literally asking the same thing a few minutes ago😂😂

    • @kingphil4073
      @kingphil4073 3 года назад

      Of course yes

    • @hardcorebambi9593
      @hardcorebambi9593 3 года назад

      I’ve seen breeders who do that for some reason, idk why either tho

  • @Jake-Jake
    @Jake-Jake 2 года назад +2

    i wouldn't want my ears cropped...

  • @mmalahle
    @mmalahle 4 года назад +22

    I've always been a german shepherd person, since I was young. I love them to bits. But then I adopted a doberman female puppy at 4 months from the SPCA. From the minute my doberman set foot in our home, she made it her home, she was never timid. What an intelligent dog, I never trained her officially except for simple commands here and there. She had uncropped ears, though I would have preferred them cropped (influenced by the 80s tv series, Magnum PI) it never bothered me. The experience I had with my dog made me fall in love with dobermans, very clever and brave dog, she would trot around the yard all the time. I also had a rottweiller that was 2 years younger than the doberman. He was very timid, I don't know whether he was abused earlier, I adopted him at 6 months. The doberman would not even allow the rottweiller to bark or anything like that. They spent many years together but the rottweiller never seemed to get over his fear for the doberman, sometimes all it would take was a look from the doberman and the rottweiller would move away and go sit in the 'naught corner'. I still love the german shepherd breed but dobermans take precedence. I hardly see dobermans in South Africa, let alone ones with cropped ears, don't know whether the law allows for cropping here. They are still cute with uncropped ears though. I totally love the breed, my dog was with us for about 12 years, still miss her after many years since she died. What a breed!!!

    • @SaikmayLayra
      @SaikmayLayra 10 месяцев назад

      German shepherds are a sad breed cause of how many health problems the got from breeding for looks I'd suggest putting a blindfold on and getting to meat shelter dog you'd be suprised what characters and needs fit you people care to much about looks they forget everything else ..

  • @patatox2688
    @patatox2688 4 года назад +5

    This video literally explains every reason why cropping is completely stupid. I will no longer see cropped doberman owners the same. It’s the same as getting circumcised. It’s completely unnecessary and stupid 9/10 times but people still do it 🤦🏻‍♂️.

    • @peachysharks3068
      @peachysharks3068 4 года назад

      I disagree. It is not completely unnecessary in every instance, as the video clearly explains. My doberman is a professionally trained protection dog and has cropped ears for his own safety.

  • @MS-mr4zm
    @MS-mr4zm Год назад +2

    Cropped “looks” better & in event you were actually relying on the dog as a protector, same as a tail dock, it’s just less “stuff” for an attacker to grab on to, that’s basically the point behind it. The extremely long ass tail (& ears) are an immediate “grab handle0

  • @kindleurie6845
    @kindleurie6845 4 года назад +32

    Simple. Don’t cut your dog unless medically necessary for their own health. It’s painful and bloody. Don’t do it. It takes forever to heal and when it does was your dogs suffering worth it for your pleasure?

    • @lauren3266
      @lauren3266 4 года назад +2

      Did you even watch the video?He admitted the procedure it’s self is painless.My dogs ears very quicks and was most definitely not suffering.

    • @vad8712
      @vad8712 4 года назад

      @@lauren3266 Shhhh...don't burst her grandstanding with actual fact!!

  • @ronaldcaravaggio6109
    @ronaldcaravaggio6109 3 года назад +13

    I love the floppy ears. The dog is so much cuter and looks more lovable that way.

  • @fathermarcus7808
    @fathermarcus7808 4 года назад +59

    I love the look with the cropped ears...
    BUT,i would never do this to my dog..

    • @videogamesare1
      @videogamesare1 4 года назад +5

      same

    • @nem8685
      @nem8685 4 года назад +7

      There’s no point if it’s not medically necessary

  • @someforall
    @someforall 3 года назад +47

    I was tempted to crop my pitbulls ears.. I got him when he was 30 days old but after 3 months I guess I have came up to a point where I can't see him in any kind of pain or discomfort 😢 never gonna crop his ears ever I love how he tucks back his ears when he see me 😍

    • @fructosecornsyrup5759
      @fructosecornsyrup5759 2 года назад +2

      Well good thing... Pitbull ear cropping isn't the same thing as a Doberman crop is. They take off a lot more of the ear and it can lead to some hearing problems down the line.

  • @johnknope1664
    @johnknope1664 Год назад +2

    I like both. I'll just crop one ear and leave the other one.

  • @Najaboa
    @Najaboa 4 года назад +91

    IMO There is no SINGLE FOR argument that is worth the surgery, however a combination of multiple FOR Arguments that makes sense (Not like the originally look, breed standard or Ease of recognition)
    If don’t like the look of the natural ears of your dog, don’t get the dog. You shouldn’t need to change your dog for you own cosmetic desire.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +17

      You certainly aren't alone with that thought! I think they are beautiful dogs no matter what.

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 4 года назад +1

      Amen!

    • @redtsun67
      @redtsun67 4 года назад +17

      Floppy ears arent really natural honestly. Most dog's ears stiffen up as they age. Floppy ears are the result of breeding for "cuteness" whether intentional or not.

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 4 года назад +5

      @@redtsun67 Shut the hell up! How do you explain the tails??????

    • @redtsun67
      @redtsun67 4 года назад +12

      @@vikingdogmanship I don't?

  • @chrisgraham2904
    @chrisgraham2904 4 года назад +48

    Great assessment that should help owners to make this important and early decision. Having lived with both cropped and uncropped doberman's for 23 years, I'm in disagreement with just one of your points. You noted that cropping may "limit a dog's expressions". I found exactly the opposite. The cropped ear will swivel, point forward or lay back to provide clear signals of the dog's emotions and expressions and their intentions are visible from a distance. The weight of the floppy ear reduces the movement of the ears and expressions. I can't leave my comments without reminding people that floppy ears are not the "natural" state for dogs. All ancestors of the dog, from the wolf down, have or had erect ears. Floppy ears were bred into the species by humans.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +16

      Great assessment Chris! I never thought of it that way about the cropped ears potentially allowing even more expression... you just blew my mind. I'll be thinking about what you said now with the next uncropped Dobie I interact with! Thanks for the other perspective!

    • @madginger3634
      @madginger3634 4 года назад +8

      This is exactly correct

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 4 года назад +1

      Bla bla bla

    • @madginger3634
      @madginger3634 4 года назад +11

      @@vikingdogmanship this reply seems kind of disrespectful.

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 4 года назад +6

      @@madginger3634 Dogs are not wolves any more than we are chimpanzees. Take a deep look into and around a wolfs ear (or any other wild subspecies) and compare it with a short haired cropped dogbreed today. Looks nothing alike. The wolf got a sweet tail on it too🙄 Ears have a function and there is a reason why dogs were born with a complete set of ears. Floppy ears help prevent water from going into the ear canal and protect the ears from insects and burrs and other irritants.

  • @earlgrae
    @earlgrae 3 года назад +16

    We had 4 European Doberman's some years back in South Africa. None of their ears were cropped and that look perfectly suited their wonderful and gentle nature. Intelligent and so loyal & loving. Almost human in how they interact with you. They were happy as long as one part of their body made contact with yours. Definitely my favourite animals and I so very much hope to be able to make a home for one or two in the future. Watching these video's makes me miss them very much!

    • @MrFelixify
      @MrFelixify 3 года назад

      That's because it's illegal in CIVILIZED countries.

  • @nadnad9025
    @nadnad9025 2 года назад +3

    a lot of people who know little to nothing abt dobermen have so much hate towards ear cropping without knowing the number of reasons that someone does it

  • @Camper-ob8nm
    @Camper-ob8nm 4 года назад +20

    Have had dobes for long time the one I had with floppy ears had lots of ear issues ( infections and hematomas) He was only one I got as a puppy and I like the friendlier look.

    • @TheRealSimeon
      @TheRealSimeon 3 года назад +2

      I saw another video of a doberman training school in the UK (I believe) the guy there said that he wouldn't take a doberman without cropped ears and tail as all the flopping around can cause infections (or something similar). So there could also be an ethical reason as to why it should be done.
      The video is by Animal Watch if anyone is curious.

    • @elizabethbathory6144
      @elizabethbathory6144 2 года назад

      @@TheRealSimeon That's strange, as cropping and docking is illegal in the UK and Europe. Can you post the link here, please?

    • @TheRealSimeon
      @TheRealSimeon 2 года назад

      @@elizabethbathory6144 I believe it is this video: ruclips.net/video/0LgCGpbMhAo/видео.html

  • @CraftySmurf35
    @CraftySmurf35 Год назад +2

    Why hasn't anyone bred a pointed eared Doberman variant ?

  • @mallowhawk294
    @mallowhawk294 3 года назад +7

    Let's just call it what it is: Unnecessary Animal Mutilation. I'm not one for sugar coating.

  • @alantillman7536
    @alantillman7536 4 года назад +37

    After weighing our options regarding our puppy, my wife and I decided against ear cropping. Years ago we adopted 2 adult Dobies (both are rescues) with cropped ears. The first has a 1-up/1-down pose, while the other has both down. This defintely factored into our decision. Add to this that we received no response from local vets when we asked about whether they offered this service. Finally, after viewing pictures of Dobermans with natural ears, we conceded these dogs are just as beautiful, and are obviously Dobermans. In the end, it is a personal decision, and one shouldn't be judged based on their choice, in my humble opinion. Besides, as more owners opt out of ear cropping, the public will become increasingly aware that Dobies may be featured with either cropped or uncropped ears.
    Great video.

    • @purpleworm4725
      @purpleworm4725 9 месяцев назад +2

      I get why people judge for it. It is a personal decision whether you have your garden bushes and shrubs trimmed or wild looking, as they are inanimate things that belong to you. Dog is not an inanimate object. Dogs are sentient creatures that have limited ability to stand for themselves, so they have to be protected by society.
      Apart from the risks already mentioned in the video, as a microbiologist I can't help but think about the potential infections during healing period, especially when proper aftercare isn't followed. It also seems completely mental to me that in US cropping does not have to be done by a vet. Is there some government lobbying from puppy mills or is the legislation from decades ago and nobody has looked at it for years?

  • @Vicpadilla79
    @Vicpadilla79 3 года назад +2

    This sounds a giant pile of slippery slope. It’s just for looks. Just say it. Geez

  • @falconflooring2797
    @falconflooring2797 4 года назад +10

    This is and has always and will probably always be a debate. To crop and dock or not, that is the question. As a life long Dobe owner, I would never not own a Dobe without a docked tail and cropped ears. I want the look along with the breed. Depending on where you get your information from will dictate why the ears and tails are and were cropped and docked to begin with, as well as why it's done or not today. In this day and age in the states it's a show standard. In WW2 the U.S. Marines high command officially enrolled the Dobe into the Marine Forces. They also commanded that all tails were docked and all ears cropped. Why? The Dobe was used to track and kill enemy snipers. That said when there is no tail and "V" shaped ears on a wedge head with a tight skin short fur animal, there's nothing for you to pull on while the Dobe is attacking / killing you. They are designed to make quick work of you, and tails and ears can prolong your demise. Long tails on Dobes are a whip with no protection. Without docking potential breaks in the tail are likely which can lead to later amputation. The ears not being cropped can lead to possible infections from lack of air flow. Despite any arguments or disagreements about the tails and ears think about this. The "natural" floppy ears of a Doberman is a man made aberration. In other words, they are a mistake. No other "dog" in the true wild has floppy ears. Wolves don't. foxes don't, Wild African Dogs don't, nor do hyenas. Though hyena according to many are actually closer to a feline then a canine. Still floppy eared canines in the true wild don't exist. They are a man made flaw in the creation of domestic breeds. Personally I'd rather the cropped ears since with cropped ears, the Dobes intentions can be more easily read. Just as a side note for anyone who reads this, if you are looking for a better chance of your dogs ears both standing after cropping then not, feed them chicken cartilage as part of their diet. You can get it in a powder / pill form. It helps build their cartilage thicker.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +2

      Very true! I think a lot of people in other countries don't fully grasp how common ear cropping is in the states either.

    • @falconflooring2797
      @falconflooring2797 4 года назад +2

      @@DobermanPlanet You're a good man bringing good information to light. You're devotion to the time it takes to make and edit these videos as well as your love for the breed and your pup's is an inspiration.

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +1

      Thank you so much! Really means a lot. I'll keep working hard for you and do my best not to let you down!

    • @Pinkfridayxoxox
      @Pinkfridayxoxox 4 года назад +1

      Exactly, so many narrow minded folks in the comment section. Ppl fail to realize that these breeds are MANMADE

  • @williamhulser7354
    @williamhulser7354 4 года назад +46

    As a kid, my parents showed and bred Great Danes. They also had their ears cropped; that was the AKC standard. That's what I grew up with, and I admit that I love the look. That being said, I do recognize how unnecessary ear cropping is. I would never do it, just as I would never get a cat declawed. Just my two cents.

    • @Account-xm6vj
      @Account-xm6vj 2 года назад +1

      I appreciate the look but it's difficult to, as a dog lover, like something when you know it's not beneficial for the dog.

    • @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR
      @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR 2 года назад

      then you should be ashamed of yourself if you know that little about Great Danes! That breed gets ear infections all the time if their ears are not cropped and ear infection causes way more suffering to the dog than a simple cropping process!

    • @static555
      @static555 2 года назад +1

      Crazy how this conversation of ear infections is only brought up with breeds that have historically had their ears cropped and not with every single other breed with naturally floppy ears

    • @static555
      @static555 2 года назад

      Also there’s no sufficient evidence that cropping ears actually helps with ear infections, so I think that’s worth a mention

  • @ginnyn9660
    @ginnyn9660 Год назад +2

    So arguing that ear cropping is better than to spay or neuter, doesn't make sense. To spay or neuter is to prevent having puppies and that is a different issue. It's not necessary to do cosmetic surgery like ear cropping just for appearance. Not a fan of that.

  • @martinpike803
    @martinpike803 4 года назад +114

    I never put my doberman through having his ears cropped and I liked the hound dog look he had

    • @singingqueen1566
      @singingqueen1566 3 года назад +1

      Same

    • @arcticablue
      @arcticablue 3 года назад +3

      Yes, I just recently came across a picture of two dogs with natural ears and tails and since I was not used to seeing them like that I had to ask a Doberman owner of they were Dobermans. They do look like hound dogs with their floppy ears and long tails! I prefer that look!

  • @Thleta
    @Thleta 4 года назад +111

    Imagine if people were as up in arms about male circumcision as they are about cropping a dog's ears lmao

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer 4 года назад +63

      Maybe they should be. Both are done for no good reason at all.

    • @Thleta
      @Thleta 4 года назад +6

      @@Quotenwagnerianer i agree

    • @vad8712
      @vad8712 4 года назад +12

      The ridiculous argument they use is one is sanctioned by their imaginary "god" the other isn't. Pity they don't realize that NO wolf or natural canine has floppy ears. Floppy ears are not natural and are a breeding ground for infections etc.

    • @halberdsturgeon8775
      @halberdsturgeon8775 4 года назад +20

      A lot of people are very vocally against circumcision of male babies, actually.

    • @Thleta
      @Thleta 4 года назад

      @@halberdsturgeon8775 not in the US

  • @sharonmontano4924
    @sharonmontano4924 Год назад +5

    I lived on a farm and let me tell you, if a dog gets his tail smashed in the gate, it takes FOREVER to heal and many times ends up amputated So, to avoid infections like sepsis, dock the tail

  • @Beck-Stein
    @Beck-Stein 4 года назад +14

    I would crop. AKC considers the cropping part of the Doberman appearance. If you’re not cropping I would not dock the tail either. It’s all or nothing for me. People against ear cropping still dock tails and remove dew claws. A bit hypocritical.

    • @isisfanpage1450
      @isisfanpage1450 4 года назад

      this is not true. A lot of people who don’t crop their ears don’t crop the tail either.

  • @davidchristensen2970
    @davidchristensen2970 3 года назад +12

    My dobie has a place in the family as a pet, and he also has a job as a protector.
    Intimidating appearance is very important and goes a long way towards him being an effective protector.

    • @shambagoo6657
      @shambagoo6657 3 года назад +4

      Exactly. Dobermans are a working breed. The cropped look is a large part of their innate effectiveness. Nobody ever had to ask me what kind of dog I had. And everybody kept a comfortable distance between me and my children. As a single mom for years, the peace of mind my dogs provided me with was priceless.

  • @xtaniwhax9655
    @xtaniwhax9655 3 года назад +4

    Imagine if someone looked at you, decided you looked like a wimp and then cut off half your ears

    • @brice5802
      @brice5802 3 года назад

      And then they kindly put you under sedation and bandaged you ears up for you. And also you have no frame of opinion nor do you care because you are a dog. My dog is completely fine with her docked tail. And my next dog is getting his ears cropped. Guess why? Just because I like the look! It won’t hurt him to hand a bandage on his ears for a number of weeks.

  • @Hypnotized81
    @Hypnotized81 3 года назад +9

    Like there are people out there that really feel the need to "pay homage" to the creator of the breed?! Are they in a cult or something?

    • @brice5802
      @brice5802 3 года назад +1

      Yep that’s exactly what it is.

  • @mwbright
    @mwbright Год назад +2

    If you crop their ears, they won't get ripped up when they play with their friends. That's my experience.

  • @tterexx426
    @tterexx426 3 года назад +15

    Thank you for always taking a look at the global situation. Like showing the global map of where cropping is allowed or not. I, as a European viewer, really appreciate this. I didn't yet find any European Doberman RUclips channels that are as good as yours!

  • @gracelawless4083
    @gracelawless4083 3 года назад +38

    Personally, I'm entirely against it unless it's a medical necessity or for work functionality. It just isn't right to put a dog through that purely for cosmetic purposes.
    Neutering and spaying may be invasive to the dog but over breeding leads to more dogs in shelters and on the streets so it has a real function that benefits the species a whole.

    • @BrooklynNY1979
      @BrooklynNY1979 2 года назад

      Soooo you're ok with cutting his balls off or her ovaries out, but painlessly cutting back the ears and tail are a bridge to far too cross?...... please make that make sense

    • @LM-hb6yn
      @LM-hb6yn Год назад

      The latest science on traditional spay and neuter would disagree. Did you know there are alternative surgeries that are less invasive and leave the hormones intact while preventing procreation? In fact the full spay and neuter so common in this country is illegal in many European countries. There are many health and behavioral problems caused by shutting down hormone production. And there are alternatives but most vets in the U.S. aren't even trained on how to perform the alternative procedures. That needs to change. Animals (and humans!) have hormones for good reason. Turning them off at a young age comes with many increased risks for serious health problems, including skeletal and joint problems, hard to treat cancers, temperament changes (confident dogs becoming fearful and anxious, for instance), cost issues, etc. It's unnatural and not healthy and yet it's done routinely at very young ages.

  • @11dagit
    @11dagit 2 года назад +2

    If its ILLEGAL in so many places that should put you to THINK WHY is illegal, and that might be unnecessary painful procedure.
    My dogs Doberman and boxer have natural looks without cropping anything

  • @MissCharly1992
    @MissCharly1992 3 года назад +29

    I like how you described this in an objective way. However it is weird for me to see this discussion about a topic (ear cropping and tail docking) that is seen as abusive and is lawfully forbidden in my country.
    I also don't understand why this would have any influence on breeding standards while it is not even a genetica trait of the breed?

    • @diegodelacuadra2617
      @diegodelacuadra2617 3 года назад +6

      Breed standards are full of bullshit, some encourage the breeding of extremely unhealthy dogs, such as English bulldogs

    • @vishnuvijay916
      @vishnuvijay916 3 года назад +2

      This many be complete bs but I read online that supposedly floppy ears are an evolution as a result of domestication and many years of living with humans, and then there’s other breeds like huskies that are naturally like that so some people justify it saying that it’s how they should be

  • @dgodfreyjr
    @dgodfreyjr 4 года назад +16

    You're right, the cropping process (mainly the wrapping) was awful, but in the end it was definitely worth it. And yes, I was judged negatively by a couple people just randomly and unprovoked, which was exceptionally frustrating may I add. But in the end I would do it again, my now 7 month old doberman is beautiful and he goes everywhere with me and my wife and always gets pets and hugs from everyone he meets

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад

      So glad you are happy with the outcome! But yeah that wrapping process is definitely rough. Sorry to hear about the random judgement from others, it's a shame but just a reality we all have to face I guess...

    • @lakersplace
      @lakersplace 4 года назад +3

      cruise@mach1 good, your dog will live long. Dobermans are prone to ear infections. It’s good to crop them trust me

  • @maritasue5067
    @maritasue5067 2 года назад +46

    I actually would have preferred natural ears when I got my pup. However, I was a single woman living on a farm, and I wanted my dog to be recognized as a Doberman. She was a great companion and farm dog, easy to socialize, loved people visiting the farm, and did well in obedience training. I only saw her go “full guard dog” three times, but that is why she had her ears done. It’s amazing how fast poachers (armed with rifles) can run for their truck when a Doberman decides they are up to no good.
    On the flip side, it’s also amazing to see said dog when she’s stolen an egg and is being chased by an angry hen.

    • @sodalite5294
      @sodalite5294 Год назад +1

      Poachers with guns are afraid of domesticated animals?

    • @maritasue5067
      @maritasue5067 Год назад +5

      @@sodalite5294 , my bro-in-law calls this variety “poachers lite”. They most likely had licenses and deer tags and this occurred during deer season, but they hadn’t bothered to ask permission from the land owner to hunt on the property. I have to say, she looked pretty frightening when in full “Doberman Gang” mode, even though, if they had bothered to ask, she would have been very friendly.

    • @heidi-kx6xt
      @heidi-kx6xt Год назад

      I am looking to get a Doberman as a single woman. Do you think it has had benefits getting them cropped. in terms of intimidation?

    • @maritasue5067
      @maritasue5067 Год назад +2

      @@heidi-kx6xt Yes, for me it was. However I wouldn’t if I hadn’t seen other dogs that the veterinarian had cropped. Badly done, or overly long, cropped ears that kept falling would mean the dog went through that discomfort for nothing.

    • @heidi-kx6xt
      @heidi-kx6xt Год назад +3

      @@maritasue5067 Thank you! I have been against docking/cropping for just about a decade now but am honestly reconsidering my stance depending on the dogs role. Thanks for your input!!

  • @somadityasingh4345
    @somadityasingh4345 4 года назад +14

    Bro I remember a week ago you had 10k sub,growing like fire 🔥.

  • @MsAnimelady
    @MsAnimelady 4 года назад +5

    So sorry to hear about the loss of your Doberman. It took me years to finish grieving over the loss of my Shaney. Speaking of whom, he was a beautiful black Doberman who was a rescue. He was 100% natural, uncropped & undocked. He was just as protective as any cropped & docked Dobie. Also, people would look at his coloring & markings and ask me, "Is that a Doberman?" So, people are not as dumb as you think when it comes to recognizing a Doberman. If you think you'll love showing people how beautiful a natural Doberman can be (as I did), then please skip the literal bloody mess (I used to be a vet tech, so seen ear cropping done) and save yourself a couple hundred dollars.

  • @darkcognitive
    @darkcognitive 3 года назад +6

    Those are some weak ass ‘for’ arguments

  • @father6371
    @father6371 4 года назад +34

    Absolutely hate people talking s*** about my cropped doberman. It's obnoxious

    • @DobermanPlanet
      @DobermanPlanet  4 года назад +10

      Yeah I hear that from a lot of Dobie owners. Sorry you have to deal with that.

    • @jeffchase9073
      @jeffchase9073 4 года назад +5

      It's your decision let know one upset that !!!

    • @elom4176
      @elom4176 4 года назад +15

      Well mate , your dog isn’t an accessory. Unnecessary mutilation. Imagine if ur mother gave u elf ears when u were born . But because these dogs can’t abject then they get modified

    • @wolfiemix
      @wolfiemix 3 года назад +4

      @@elom4176 Lol, elf ears would be cool and unique.

    • @elom4176
      @elom4176 3 года назад +6

      @@wolfiemix child abuse or mutilation isn’t a positive...

  • @rorothegoatboat
    @rorothegoatboat 4 года назад +6

    people circumcise their kids, i see nothing wrong with cropping or docking ears. I'd rather crop ears or dock the tail instead of neutering them.

  • @Choppy86
    @Choppy86 3 месяца назад +3

    What I never get is, people have such a problem cropping dogs ears but have no problem with the idea of cutting a dogs BALLS OFF. I know if the dog had a choice which one he would prefer to keep 😅

    • @morose1434
      @morose1434 2 месяца назад +1

      So true also the behavioral effect “fixing” them has. The way I see it is just be responsible with your dog and they won’t accidentally have babies!

    • @Choppy86
      @Choppy86 7 дней назад

      @@morose1434 It’s done to make them a better more controllable pet, for the convenience of people, not for the betterment of the animal.

  • @pauloandrasan
    @pauloandrasan 4 года назад +7

    Uncropped all the way, it’s a dobermann let him have is ears!

    • @-zawolf-8325
      @-zawolf-8325 3 года назад +1

      Yeah let em have their ears
      Also im kind of pissed that having cropped ears is the breed standard for dobermans :/

  • @locklearlumbee83
    @locklearlumbee83 3 года назад +9

    I left my girl's ears natural. She's not a show dog and she is not a trained guard dog. I love cropped ears but those natural ears are just as beautiful.

  • @XXscreams
    @XXscreams 2 года назад +2

    So mutilating and getting your dog through pain cause "it looks cool" kinda is the only argument i got out if this video. And come on dont tell me a dog need it's ears cut to hear someone breaking in your home, that's dumb as fuck; and so are the people that mutilate their dogs.
    I legit don't understand how anyone can say the love their dogs and still do this shit, literrally makes no sense

  • @yorkshire_tea_innit8097
    @yorkshire_tea_innit8097 3 года назад +27

    "Less damage to ears whilst running through brush" doesnt really pass the bullshit test, considering springer spaniels are bred to run through thick brush, and they have floppy ears with the justification that it protects their ears. It makes sense that floppy ears will prevent things from getting inot the ear canal.
    I can say that my springer has very good hearing, and it's easily good enough for home defence purposes, although his hearing isnt as good as my other dog which is a cardigan corgi, and they have very pointy ears naturally. So yes, pointy eared dogs do have better hearing, but the cut doberman is not especially a good shape for acoustics as it isnt bowl shaped at all. Just look at pictures of cardigan corgi and doberman, the ears are completly different, the cut ears will be about as good as no ears and just ear holes.. Another thing is pointy ears tend to have a lot of hairs in the entrance of the ear canal to stop things going in, look at a cat, and the cut doberman doesnt have that.

    • @elsie5041
      @elsie5041 3 года назад

      well there are a few key differences to point out here. first of all, springer spaniels have thick long hair covering their ears that protect them from thorns and sharp branches. Also, since they are hunting dogs their ears are long to help collect and guide air down to their noses to help catch scents. I personally would crop my dobe's ears because where i live is full of thorny plants and my current dog, a medium sized terrier with natural ears is missing a part of her ear that got torn off by the brush.

  • @MK-er8df
    @MK-er8df 4 года назад +26

    A friend of mine had to have her red Dobermans left ear cropped because she kept getting massive hematomas in that one ear for different reasons so now she has one funny ear and one normal one. Just makes her cuter in my opinion

  • @PEOPLE_SHIT
    @PEOPLE_SHIT 3 года назад +3

    My dad says they're just ugly with long ears LOL

  • @pluviangin3159
    @pluviangin3159 4 года назад +15

    There are tons of dog breeds with pointy ears without them needing dogs plastic surgery. i find it easy to question folks that have their dogs tails and ears cut off. It's illegal in most european countries for a reason.