I have always felt that it was weird for people to do that. My brother did it so his pit bulls will look more "fierce" . I thought it was complete bs. A dog will be firece and able to protect the home no matter about the ears .
@@OurPetsHealth Not really!!! They are protection dogs, not a sweet lab. If your dog stands between you and a person trying to harm you, do you want their ear yanked and them hurt? So, people RECOGNIZE the breed and will less likely bother you and then there is no biting incident that will get your dog KILLED! AND, floppy ears are not easily read! Pointy ears can speak volumes and let you know what the dog intends to do! VITAL for dogs bred to protect and it allows them even better hearing! NOT just cosmetic, but in this case, cosmetic helps and prevents bites and death to the dog. Some people are just to emotional to understand LOGIC.
i always loved the upright look and thought it was natural. I always wondered why my pitbull terrier pup (1 year old) doesn't have that feature unlike his parents and a few of his siblings. He has floppy ears but one of his ears occasionally stands up, I learned about ear cropping and for a few months I though of bringing him to the vet to do it but welp, I figured I would miss his natural one up-floppy ears. No need to cause him unnecessary pain just for aesthetics.
@@Kingjeffkoch People get their kids circumsized for religion lol. Most people complaining about dog ear cropping probably have their own kids circumcizesd, considering over 70% of American men are.
@@Kingjeffkoch No, it doesn't. That's a myth, countries that don't practice circumcision don't have any higher rates of disease, its all religion driven.
And yes as an American I can say I did not even know that that was not the natural form of Doberman ears. It is so common I don't think I've ever seen a doberman here without Pointed ears. if I did I definitely did not recognize it as a Doberman. My misconceptions growing up Dobermans have pointy ears and Pitbulls ''Pits'' don't have tails. Eventually it was explained to me they're "fighting dogs" and tails and sometimes ears are clipped so that their opponents have less to grab a bite. . . when they're fighting in the Pit thus the name Pitbull. I was too young and there was no internet to fact-check this. It didn't make it any better but it did make it make sense
Ear cropping is so common here in the US that I think many people don't even realize that it's a surgical procedure that causes them to look that way. If someone likes the "cropped ear" look maybe they should consider getting a Bull Terrier for example - they have ears that point up and look as though they are cropped but they are just that way naturally, no surgery required.
I honestly thought they were born with pointy ears like German Shepherds which I grew up with. I love pointy ears but I don't feel like I could do that to a dog. It's probably better I stick to GSD.
Louis Doberman created the Doberman with the tail docked and ears cropped....the tail on a Doberman is very thin and gets injured often and the cropping helps with hearing...I got my Doberman's ears cropped it's part of the whole Doberman package come to my house and tell my Doberman Johnny that I'm a bad for doing that to him and try to take him from me.
@@JohnnyBGood11 “fingers are thin and get injured often guess my kid doesn’t need them” that’s how you sound, btw dogs use their tails to help balance when they run.
Thank you, to people like you and all animal rescues. There needs to be better education and laws to prevent abuse. Maybe showcase natural looking dogs on dog shows and not mutilated ones.
I have a Doberman and I didn't "mutilate" his ears as you babies say, I had his ears cropped, I asked my vet about it she said there's nothing wrong with it; it's just a group of people crying about nothing.....Part of the Doberman's look is the ears, that's what Luis Doberman did when he created this breed....my Doberman's ears stand up like goal posts and it helps his hearing and his tail is docked cry some more far left nut job babies...All Dogs would trade places with my Doberman he gets ran/walked twice a day and he spends zero hours in a cage like most of you guys do to your dogs,...I work at home so I'm with my Doberman 24/7 so stick it.
Dogs are living creatures. Not toys, and not dolls. I can't fathom the demented superficiality of people who would mutilate their pets just for aesthetics.
As a Dane owner, I always feel sad for the American Danes I see with this done. They've been mutilated and end up looking totally stupid as a result. Breed Standards in the US need to be changed.
Your perception of this is wrong. Raise your information. Also, don't get your mind involved in a topic that has nothing to do with you, this is your personal opinion
That is not allowed in the Netherlands anymore. But that used to be normal for a Dobermann. My grandpa was a trainer and we had Dobermann dogs when I grew up and they looked agressive and dangerous with their ears cut. I have grown up with Dobermann dogs and a few years ago I saw a dog and asked the owner what breed is this? And it was a Dobermann with long floppy ears and a long tail lol. It didn't even look like a Dobermann anymore to me. But it shouldn't be done anymore for sure.
I hear you! It's amazing how different they look as nature intended. I love seeing spaniels, boxers, and all the other traditionally cropped dogs come to see me with long wagging tails!
They kept saying there is health benefits and couldn't name one just kept telling me I was uneducated in the matter and I'm just like what and they bring up abortion laws ..circumcision and ear piercings on babies to justify it and I'm just like this things and don't make this right I hate when people point fingers to justify their own reasoning
I am considering a couple dogs as I get closer to retirement. And I'm interested in a medium-to-large the extra large. I really like the Pitbull and also considered a Cane Corso. Now was recently looking looking at a few photos and videos. And the first thing I noticed looking at this cane corso is that its ears and tail for clipped. And I thought to myself I don't want to do this. I would not want to have this done. I'm almost certain that this is people imposing their freaking preferences because that's what people do. But let me take to the internet and see what people have to say. I'm pretty sure there are going to be people touting Pros as "health benefits" and "must do's for the benefit of the animal". This is the first video I came across in my research. That extremely beautiful doctor confirmed my pre research feelings and thoughts. But I still got to search for the other side's arguments. I never know these practices were illegal in the UK. Good for you.
I watch the channel “the dodo” all the time, and very loving owners were considering cropping their dogs tail. They had a pit bull and he had a very long and powerful tail he would wag and bang into everything from being happy and excited. They had to put wraps on it since it was getting damaged all the time. I’m no expert, but that is the only reason I would ever consider something like this. Had no idea they did that to Dobermans. That is horrible.
tail tip damage in an individual does justify amputation in that dog but it's not nearly common enough to amputate every dogs tail of the breed. and ear cropping doesn't prevent anything, despite what some claim (as in the comments on this video 🤦)
Even the excuse of a covenant with whatever imaginary friend you have. Many countries have banned ear cropping, but none have banned foreskin cropping!
I don't care how much hate this may warrant but I love dogs, I grew up with 5 of them, one of which was a doberman and we had her ears and tail cropped and there were no issues! She was a happy, healthy, beautiful girl and we gave her a great life and she improved ours! I'm 27 now with my own home, no dogs yet, but depending on the type of dog I get one day I would consider cropping. Sure its cosmetic but hey so are circumcisions.
I'm not opposed to your beliefs, you're clearly in favour of whats best for the animal and I admire that but is it just a question of morality? Its fine to chop things off for medical reasons like testicles to prevent procreation or a tail riddled with cysts but the moment it becomes cosmetic its out of the question? Its just the level of hatred for it I can't get behind, just because someone has their dog cropped doesn't make them a bad owner.
It's sad, my husky express so much through her ears, I know her mood just by the position of her ears, this mutilation of healthy dogs makes so angry and is totally unnecessary, if you want a dog with pointy ears then buy/adopt a breed with those traits..... German shepherd, husky collie, yorkie french bulldogs.....etc so many to choose from without having to mutilate a health pup.
I don’t believe in ear cropping or tail docking but if it is going to be done, it’s needs to be done by a trained veterinarian that is able to put the animal under for the procedure. And pain medicine prescribed for afterwards. At least keep it as humane as possible. Just because it is for fashion doesn’t means the animal can’t feel it, even if they are puppies. And because there is always that asshole, my dog is a GSD, their ears stand up naturally as they grow.
@@RobynAndersonLaUgHsHaRd I believe people can do what they want with their animals if they want to crop ears or dock tails they should be able to. My original point is we have seriously messed up wolves by turning them into English bulldogs so cutting an ear and calling it cruelty is a bit dramatic
@@hankbresyn3582 WoW - So by your reasoning, just because an animal is under the ownership of a human, that gives the human the right to inflict pain (and yes, cropping and docking result in pain, the anaesthetic, if used, does wear off). None of us were responsible for the domesticating of wolves - just because something was legal and correct in the past does not set a precedent for it being legal and right now - take child labour for example.
A Working dog on a doberman - from experienced dog trainers - for year's...will not work with a dog with floppy ears because they blister. And this is from some one who has 20+ys almost and works 10hrs a day with them for protection .
I am begging every single human being who comments on this or watches the video: please, please, please stop cropping dogs’ ears. It is one of the saddest things I know.
The lady is not entirely correct. Litters are not sent abroad to be cropped. There are plenty of unscrupulous breeders sending cropped and docked puppies to the UK. One "business" called cropped and docked dobermans in the uk regularly import full litters . They have the puppies less than a couple of weeks.
I think it's a case that both situations take place. Either way, the new legislation being worked on should hopefully help put a complete stop to both.
I think the only breed that I might have it done would be a doberman but at the same time I couldn't have a doggo's tail cut off. Too major a change and tails have bone in them. Just wouldn't feel right. And grabbing a dog's tail is a playful way to mess with them.
To me personally, chopping off a dogs testicles is far more inhumane then ear cropping. I see ear cropping in the same category as circumcision for humans.
Hi curious to know what sentencing someone would get for arranging for there dogs ears to be cropped, I currently know someone who is being investigated hoping karma bites hard?
I suspect little more than a slap on the wrist. Unfortunately even the most serious cases of animal cruelty don’t get even a fraction of the sentence deserved.
@@OurPetsHealth dog got taken off him so that's some good news unfortunately he was interviewed & prepared I won't say what happened as might give other people ideas. So it's some good news hopefully will get band 1 day as there's a long history of dog abuse but for now that's a little win 🌈
Uhm yes it does. It's illegal exactly because it is painful and a risk to the dog's health for no other reason than aesthetics, which is cruel. That's the motivation behind it being illegal.
is there any truth to the idea, it's only done because the floppy ear dogs get chronic ear infections and haematoma. I've had boxers, gsp and poodle cross and corso none of which ever suffered ear infections. in Australia it's also illegal and has been for the past 20 plus years.
I have one question. I love going onto Instagram to scroll through pictures of staffies (desperately want to get a staffy someday,) and all these disgusting posts with pit bulls with cropped ears come up and though I report the posts nothing seems to be done about it. Does anyone know of any campaigns pressuring Instagram to stop encouraging this? I’d definitely be on board with supporting the removal of such content, it’s just cruel 😢
m sure if a newborn baby boy could communicate he would say he doesn't want his genitals cut yet we circumcise most males anyway. Just stop your bs Karen
Okay okay.....wow, I never realized that these dogs were mutalated, and kinda tortured(some). I actually am American, but never owned a doggy before but always see dogs since childhood with pointy ears.
not all dogs with pointy ears are cropped but i always thought that doberman naturaly had pointed ears until i was looking at getting a dog so i know what you mean
what if you intend on getting it to be a working dog/protection dog so it’s not just for aesthetic purposes?.. I’m looking into getting one but I can’t decide if it’s wrong or not for them to have them cropped, I’m in a grey zone with it at the moment tbh🤷🏼♂️
ear cropping will not change their ability to do that job and trust me, a big dog that's behaving aggressively is scary whether they have cropped ears or not
If you get a Doberman I highly recommend cropping ears and tail. This is the best thing for you and the Doberman. Get the ears and tail cropped by a professional. It's also a good idea to cut off the dewclaws.
Don't know about guard dog breeds but gundog breeds need floppy ears to protect them from sticks, brambles and the like as they crash through the undergrowth. My dad had to get our Springer spaniels tail taken down to a nub but that was because it kept getting infected due to the same things the ears defend against.
There is no logical reason for you to do it other than the fact you like the way it looks. Tail docking can be necessary if it is a particular breed which has problems with their tail such as a pug. Ears literally makes no difference other than so called “fear factor” and even then it makes no difference. If a doberman is snarling, showing its teeth and barking I don’t think anyone in the right mind would choose to approach whether its ears are cropped or not. It’s purely aesthetic and if you want to do it fine, but don’t use excuses and believe your own lies like so many do. Just be honest about why you’re doing it.
Performing medically unnecessary procedures that simply perpetuate the image of dogs as fashion accessories is outrageous. This image is promoted by the American Kennel Club at its canine beauty pageants and by breeders who believe that “their” breed will be “ruined” if it does not maintain the image handed down by parent breed clubs decades ago.
@@OurPetsHealth Well well well I invoked the so called expert on why cropping and docking dogs is bad,.. all the while you're too willing to take a males balls and a female insides because people are lazy and not responsible pet owners ,...hmmmm which is more detrimental to a dogs health cropping some ears and docking a tail vs gutting a dog so they cannot reproduce because of bad pet owners??....you make the call Pets Health.
@@JohnnyBGood11 because neutered animals tend to live longer on average and the surgery prevents some pretty common and dangerous diseases. Yes there are potential risks, especially if carried out too early in certain breeds, but in most cases, on balance, they are very much beneficial - ruclips.net/video/cKWpUu-GNo0/видео.html
Their ears are healthier when they are cropped. I would like to get a weim with cropped ears. Dog lineage comes from it animals with erect ears. Whar happened?
Dogs with erect ears can get ear issues as well, sometimes it's the genetics. Owners should be cleaning their dogs ears, floppy or not. What I find is that people are having their 8~12 week old puppies go through a painful process. I know in veterinary offices, the puppies are under anesthesia during the process, but once the puppy's awake? Horrible. They're in pain, they're crying and confused. It's clearly only a cosmetic surgery since it's so common in certain breeds. You don't see labs, retrievers, cocker spaniels, etc having their ears cropped.
I wish this was more helpful than it was. It was mostly just talking about how abhorrent and disgusting it is without actually taking a deep dive into it. Too much emotion, too little facts.
I recognize that you are certified vets, therefore you know far more than me, but I'm left with the question, ¿Why does ear cropping get such a bad rep? Considering it is mutilation, it is unnatural and completely useless, however, spaying and neutering is often practiced, and I would say that, if you don't want your dog to breed, take responsibility for it, beware around dogs if you have a bitch in heat, keep your male dog on a leash in breeding season, there's no reason to spay/neuter, it's just the owner's decision to go the easy way, causing hormonal imbalances and other issues on the way, please correct me if I'm wrong
Neutering/Spaying isn't done for aesthetic reasons. It helps immensely reduce ovarian cancer for females and testicular cancer for males, and of course, no accidental pregnancies. Typically females should be spayed before the first heat while males usually around 1 year as by that time, males have all the necessary hormones they need. It also helps decrease aggression within male towards other males, as many unfixed males will start fighting over an female in heat. Of course, this isn't always the case for EVERY dog, but it is pretty common.
@@teashark9878 Please do your research, as far more problems are caused by neutering and spaying. It is primeraly done for the convenience of the owners so they don't have to take on the responsibility of dogs in season.
You don't have to spay or neuter your dog anymore with a operation, there are chips you can put in your dog and they will do the job, no operation needed, less health issues and reduction of byb. Huge difference to mutilation
@@Boerboel-qu9zg I just wonder why people don't use chips, like I wrote in the comment below. It's much more simple and can be used if needed without causing any trouble. One of my males for example starves himself if a femal near our house is ready to mate (sorry idk the English word) and once he's fully grown I just use the chips for a year, see if it helps and how he reacts. If it's good for him I just change the chip each year without any operation needed. Cuz Literally EVERY operation is a risk.
It's sd to see some vets let OPINIONS get in the way of facts. Sometimes cropped ears are a must. Case is from dog to dog ofcourse.. but some dogs BENEFIT from it. People will still judge either way
Just like breast implants, botox injections, circumcision, piercings, tattoos...if not performed professionally and properly bad things can happen. Otherwise the results are benign and personal. And why target something as trivial as ear cropping? Why not spend the energy trying to make Ballet illegal? Because trust me, what women do to themselves to match the criteria of Ballet is much worse. Many very well educated people, and very well trained veterinarians don't have a problem at all with ear cropping being performed professionally. There is really nothing wrong with it. There are very specific intentions behind it. Veterinarians should be begging people to allow them to perform the operation in a safe and well established professional environment. otherwise the practice just all goes to the underground, making things much worse for both the owner and the dog. There are thousands upon thousands of very happy dogs that live very happy lives that have had their ears cropped. The dogs really don't care about it, they don't have the same opinions and feelings humans have. The short period of time posting the ears is just a minor annoyance for both the owner and the dog. There is no trauma unless the entire cropping gets botched, which is very unlikely. Do you really think people are going to spend $3,000-$10,000+ for a Doberman and risk destroying their beloved pet+protectors ears? No, they are going to do it with care and attention to detail. Just like a circumcised man, they live their life without any issues. There are women (and men) that will only date men who have been circumcised. That's an issue, don't you think? People forget what Dobermans were designed for. In fact many many people don't even know. People should respect that Dobermans were designed by one man (Karl Dobermann), for a very specific reason. Karl Dobermann did such a good job in his creation, that the Doberman is still worth breeding today. Why? Because humans and other animals still try murdering one another, and a Doberman instinctively prevents that. It's a beautiful instinct to have. Dobermans have been preserved by men, for a very intelligent reason. And there is nobody that can honestly say that an uncropped Doberman looks more intimidating than a cropped Doberman. A Doberman with cropped ears will make a criminal think twice about entering into your home and doing irreversible harm to you and your family. And if all it took was a stoic look and cropped ears to keep them out, both the family and the Doberman would vote for cropped ears, every time. Even if you take a stance against the practice, you should still respect the design. Everyone should respect the history. Some people think Dobermans are "Aggressive" dogs. In fact, they are "Protective" dogs. There is a difference between the two, and a protection dog should be politely respected. Go after people that abandon their dogs, your time will be better spent.
Does a Doberman benefit in any way from having their ears cropped? Is having a surgical procedure where skin and cartilage are cut through really benign? Are the dogs themselves choosing to have their ears cropped to boost their own self esteem? Does having their ears cropped change their protective instincts? Does the fact that because one worse thing is happening mean we should ignore anything else we believe to be wrong? No
Yes, absolutely to most of your questions. Why do you think wolves, foxes etcetera... All have ears that are naturally standing up? It should be clear, it gives them an advantage in their environment. Cropping a dogs ears are putting them back into their natural position and their advantageous state. How did you miss that in your research? Also try to keep in mind that Veterinarians are not dog psychologists. Even though they try to come across as such. The thin tail of a doberman was never intended to be grown out, it's why the creator Karl Dobermann docked it. Karl Doberman would being doing a face palm if he saw all the dobermans with their thin tails whipping around, vulnerable to breakage. That thin tail can break very easily, and the floppy ears can become injured and infected easily. Dobermans are working dog's, they thrive on serving and protecting their Family. Anything else and that dog is living an unfulfilled life. Veterinarians really like charging top dollar for tail repairs and surgeries, and those ear infection kits have a really good profit in them! Cropping ears with a laser is really effective, advanced and modern veterinarians know this. Men and women get laser surgery to correct their eyes, and to reduce ingrown hairs. The problem with making cropping illegal is it pushes the practice to the underground, which is much worse for the dogs welfare. Also, if the breed standard can not be maintained, breeders will stop breeding the Doberman, and it's gene pool will exponentially decrease and eventually the breed will be extinct. Do you really want the beautiful and smart Doberman extinct, because your feelings get hurt thinking about a practice that has been safely done for over a hundred years?
I couldn’t have said that better myself. I have both cropped and natural dobies. After a big ear injury on my first dobie (uncropped) I said never again. I also have 2 cropped, it absolutely serves a purpose for these dogs as they’re working dogs. I have had the luxury of going to incredible cropping vets here in the US that make sure everything is done correctly, and it’s not cheap! Making this procedure illegal scares me knowing how people are, I’m sure there’s people out there that would start doing it themselves. That’s way worse than a medical professional doing it!
@@3yorkiegirl Working dogs?? what do they work as?... U mean running back and forth in your yard barking at noises on other side of the fence? 🤨.Working dog my ass. Everybody likes to act like there living on a farm and they need these rough, tough working dogs. Just cut the shit and say u simply like the intimidating look.
Personally I think anyone found to purchase or own a dog with cropped ears in the uk should face a fine up to 10k if it can be proved they knowingly purchased the dog like that then people will be unlikely to go ahead with purchasing dogs like it, then it will be less profitable for the people who are doing that horrible procedure to the dogs which I assume Are sold at a much higher premium.
that is completely stupid. It is personal choice. Why not make the same with spaying and castration? but no... it is benefical, it helps people to run from their responsibilities as pet owners... Why not draw such a fine on plastic surgery? Or maybe on dog clothes? or tons of other shits... I do not know if i am surprised or just my hope in society is dying seeing so many people who are not even aware of this going against it. You did not know about it until a minute but now just because some random person tells you it is bad you are going to burn down houses and owners? It is a personal choice.I mean it can be done if it will save its life but not if it is just for appearance?
@@Lazyspaceout it is illegal in the UK, breeders are already doing it themselves and have been for many years, same with tails, so by making it an offence to own a dog with cropped ears by issuing heavy fines then there would less people wanting a dog with cropped ears then the breeders would stop doing it because they wouldn't be able to sell the puppies.
To the woman complaining in this video, they don't chop the tails off, the tails are Docked...it's a process look it up on the internet....this is why people are informed incorrectly, you have people saying the tails are chopped off when this is totally false information.
Dude if ya search tail docking and have the balls to watch a video you see someone take a pair of scissors veteran or not and literally just chop them off. No anaesthesia no nothing, because they think that the puppies nerves haven’t fully “developed” which is a load of baloney because animals are very much developed when they come out because if they weren’t they will die.
@@golden2370 I already watched videos docking tails and they don't "CHOP" the tails off they cut the tails at an angle, if they use anesthesia it could kill the puppy....When I was circumcised I didn't get any anesthesia and guess what I don't remember the pain. keep trying pussyfart, I laugh at the cry babies this world is creating a bunch of pussies.
@@OurPetsHealth true just saying thou bigger issues should really be laws protecting dogs from harmful selective breeding I haven’t seen those videos I’ll check them out I’d probably equate this to humans getting there 2 yo child’s ears pierced even thou dogs get it worse is it abuse yes definitely is the government or society at large going to do anything about it probably not even if they are mutating a human baby it is a sad world we live in
@@OurPetsHealth i been doing it for years i wouldnt have a doberman with out crooping there ears..and let me tell you i have the best looking dobermans in the world..and you never answer the quuestion..anyway u have a great day..
The UK needs to ban the import of dogs with cropped ears, docked tails and de-clawed cats. I've also heard of some Americans removing their dog's voice box because they barked 'too much'. I don't know how the Kennel Club views these practices, but an import ban, fine/criminal record and de-registration from the KC would be a good start.
Switzerland is actually the most dog friendly from as far as I know, no cropping allowed there, no cropped dogs are allowed to be imported and there are super strict rules for all sorts of operations. So we could all just try to do the same I guess 😂
I mean, you could also tattoo your dog and it will probably be fine? Just like ear cropping it's painful and you take risks with infections and whatnot for absolutely no reason. Unlike spay/neutering which can be beneficial not only to one dog but to the whole dog population where it lives.
I am American, and I find it a barbaric practice. It's painful to the dog, and it's cruel. It serves no purpose other than the owner wanting their dog to look a certain way. But dogs are not toys.
When the dog has cropped ears he is just as happy as every other dogs and has no clue his ears are smaller or pointy. He grows like that perfectly happy and is as nice of a dog. Its just personal preference. You guys are completely not reasoning and are overiacting
What about the pain they had to go through to get their ears cropped, not to mention anesthetic and infection risks? Where is the justification for this "personal preference"?
@@OurPetsHealth i call this bullshit what the OP post. My dad owned pitbulls for many years since 80s and had their ears cropped till like 2006. Every dog that had their ears cropped had long lasting ear infection that we couldnt get rid of it. They lived outside had a well build dog house with thick styrofoam insulation and a 100w bulb when winter starts. But they still got ear infection when they get wet during rain.. while the dogs after 2006 who didnt get their ears cropped never had ear problems. We had a dog who lived for 16 years he always had ear problems he was a pitbull while his brother who didnt get his ear cropped never had any problems. The floppy ears protect them from rain and wind and other stuff. Remove them and its like being naked during winter days.
So true re the excuse of ''Rescue''! Massive good looking {apart from the cropped and docked ears and tail} Dobermann 'Rescued'..... Nonsense...These were imported purposefully because the owner wants that look. :(
This video its just trying to point out that cropping is illegal. I get it. But..can we all just think there maybe multiple other reasons for owners to do this procedure?? Before trying to question or point out opinions NOBODY needs to hear?. Personally i love the “natural ears and tail” look. Inspite of that, i HAD to let my puppy ears get cropped. HAD TO. It was as i thought it would be..heartbreaking (for us to know what was going on in the surgery) and the after care is ,as someone said, a pain in the *** for me and my pup. One month in this.. and im just… really exhausted of hearing people talking loudly what they believe about it and how poorly they think of the owner (me in this case) for that Matter. I try to not care but it gets me. I got exhausted of explaining everybody WHY we NEEDED to crop its ears. Exhausted of the previous nasty looks and the loudly comments. Now i just explain it to the ones i believe really care to know. So please please please… before hurting somebody’s feelings, be more emphatic and delicate when looking for answers about this kind of procedures.
Is it bad that I want my dog's ear cropped? Or its tail docked? Is it really that huge of a problem? I am specifically talking about doberman here which from experience of my uncle who has raised about 12-16 of them, do not have any bad affects on them.
Tail docking is abuse the tail is one of the main ways a dog have to communicat wether it's communicating with dogs or humans if you want an accessory to your aesthetics by a chain not a smart and sentient bieng and even if ear cropping is less harmful it's a surgery every surgery comes with risks why make your buddy undergo unnecessary trouble? just so you can show how vain you are?
@@OurPetsHealth Because America is a free country. It's a choice. Not everyone does it. Some people want their floppy ear dogs to have pointy ears and some don't. I could say the same thing with dogs who have serious health problems because of inbreeding should be ban. And breed should be fixed with breeding it with another dog. All these dog clubs should just go. And yet people buy these deform dogs because they are cute. Owners shouldn't crop or bob their dog's tail or ears, but breeding deform dogs is ok? And shouldn't be ban? I could say there's a double standard here.
Because we have not the right to interfere in other people's taste, at least we should not do it ourselves, if it is considered bad, others should not live according to our wishes. This pain cannot be proven, because it can be done very cleanly and with little suffering
I don't know the law, but of course who make it illegaly should be hardly fined and even imprisoned. Moreover, stupid things like these exist more because of general social acceptance rather than true desire. Once people will get used to new doberman look and they will be the odd one if they crop the ears (and hopefully they will be publically offended because of it) the phenomenon will slowly disappear.
@@stoup7280 You're not crying hard enough. Ear cropping is already banned in several countries. Cropped ears are better for this breed long term, when it comes to health and function. All wild dogs have erect ears, it's for function and not for aesthetics. The ones with cropped ears have some of the best, most dedicated, educated, and caring dog owners. You're pretending that their owners are abusing them, which is absolutely ridiculous.
It is in many parts of the world, but unfortunately that does not stop people from either doing it themselves (seriously) or finding someone who will carry it out
person want their dogs ears to look a certain way - dog goes through cosmetic surgery - do looks certain way - no benefit to dog - painful and with other possible risks (infection, repeat surgery needed, anesthetic death, if not anesthetised then extreme pain)
@@OurPetsHealth it just doesn't seem nearly as bad as spaying and neutering that changes the dogs behavior, had emotional damage, and gives up to 500% more health risk or developing problems in my dog..and people castrate their dogs all the time not called mutilation
@@m.2151 also it literally opens with with him saying it's a "ridiculous" thing and using negative words such as "mutilation"...do you know what biased means?
You find it disgusting for people doing what they want with their property, and if you don’t like or agree whit it or even own those breeds… to each is own. I find it disgusting that vets give all these chemicals/vax/meds and expect you to come in monthly or quarterly to make loads of money when they can give you or direct you to natural remedies and feed. kibble they prescribe is just an expensive bag of fluff. Dogs can be fed raw or lightly cooked daily for way cheeper and that way you know what is in their food and what they do or don’t need.
everyone commenting saying how much they love animals are literally wearing cow skin on their feet and eating an animal 3 times a day. give me a break you bunch of hypocrites
There is NOTHING mean about cropping and docking a PUPPY or circumcising a baby boy or piercing a baby girls ears! Get over it and stop making things illegal and allow owners or parents CHOOSE. Doing it when they are adults is mean...Get over yourselves. If you think it is mean don't do it. Most of these crybabies see nothing wrong with aborting human babies but get all upset over something stupid. Everyone...mind your own business!
Oh yeah, so "killing" a bunch of cells without a nervous system is cruel, but cutting off the majority of pleasure nerves off someone's dick is fine, mkay.
I find I very said you did not educate at all you just said you emotionally charged opinion on the subject smh nothing wrong with crop and dock done the right way!!!!
there is a lot wrong. cosmetic only procedure, no benefit to dog, risks and pain involved... although this clearly doesn't conform to your preexisting opinion
Gross. There's literally NO ethical or medical reason to mutilate the ears. You are cutting off a needed body part just because you think it looks cool, yikes
That's why the United States is soo much better you don't get "convicted" for cropping and docking,...if you chop off the dogs tail or chop the ears then yes convict them but not for cropping and docking apples and oranges.
@@Smicc Ohh so you're not from the United States Adam Cooper ???,...my fault for talking to someone's opinion that does not mean shit...You can understand that.
Will somebody explain why ear cropping is frowned upon, yet castrating and spaying is perfectly ok, sending their hormones out if synch. Men have been fixing dogs for their own mean for decades. That’s why bulldogs cant breathe and German Shepherds have bad hips. Castration is mutilation. Hypocrites.
Neutering/Spaying isn't done for aesthetic reasons. It helps immensely reduce ovarian cancer for females and testicular cancer for males, and of course, no accidental pregnancies. Typically females should be spayed before the first heat while males usually around 1 year as by that time, males have all the necessary hormones they need. It also helps decrease aggression within male towards other males, as many unfixed males will start fighting over an female in heat. Of course, this isn't always the case for EVERY dog, but it is pretty common. The breeding issues today are due to the folks who kept on breeding the dogs with awful genetics such as backyard breeders & puppy mills. Ear cropping is nothing more than aesthetic. You could tell me it's for ear infections, but then all floppy eared dogs would be getting their ears cropped. People need to remember that cleaning is also essential for these ears. Weekly ear cleaning would help a bunch of dogs who get ear infections.
Your opinion is so ridiculous and offensive while neutering and removing dewclaws are legal which I believe these two surgery are more inhuman and such a narrow minded people like you are trying to follow things that beneficial for themselves not dogs or any animals . Please keep your opinion for yourselves and don’t try to decide for other people and dog lovers by raising a ridiculous campaign to make it illegal to import the breed that they love
You know you can buy them with their ears intact. Not sure last time I took back dew claws off, not appropriate for vast majority of dogs. Neutering has clear benefit for most so long as timed appropriately. And even if you don’t agree with it that doesn’t detract from the fact that Ear cropping literally just cosmetic with no benefit to the dog. Who’s narrow minded?
But why not just get one with the ears intact?? once you hear there is zero benefit to removing ears and tails i honestly dont understand how people that claim to love their dogs still have an argument for it makes me wonder did u get a dog just to look cool 🤔. Imagine putting your child through physical pain just so others can comment on how bad ass your kid looks.
bruh declawing a cat is no where near as close to this. i don’t even like cats and i can say that’s far worse than ear cropping. you’re taking away their right to defend themselves, climb something. ear cropping doesn’t harm them during, after ,and in years to come. it has no long term affects. sure it can be painful, it’s a surgery. but yk what had more risks than ear cropping? spay/neutering. spay/neutering isn’t necessary at all. maybe learn to control and actually take care of yours dogs so they won’t be running around getting other dogs pregnant. ear cropping also doesn’t hit any bones or anything. and lastly you can’t tell someone what to do with their dog, cause if anything you’re only gonna make them wanna do it more. so maybe just mind yalls business. 🙂
I can tell someone that in my professional opinion what they are doing is completely wrong and has no justification. If they choose to ignore me and mutilate their dog then that that is on them. Yes, I agree that declawing is worse but that doesn't make this right. Spay neuter is a much more complex + nuanced situation that I agree is not right for everybody and every dog
this is full of feelings, the word "disgusting" and almost none comparison of both sides of the arguments or any important facts around the procedure.... The video just do not hold up well.
What's the other side of the argument? "I want my dog's ears to look like that even though I know it's of absolutely no benefit to the dog and requires a painful surgery to achieve". Now that's an argument that doesn't hold up well!
@@OurPetsHealth you argument is not even argument... This is a statements, yes, not argument but your words are one as well. The video is full of shit statements and no real argument as your position does not give you some magical right to say what is what without enough facts and just go on with it. Absolutely useless video with no value out of emotions.
I'm just curious what exactly makes these poor babies' ears stand up after they've been docked or wrapped? Is it scar tissue? So hoping yo see the practices made illegal in all Canadian provinces and territories!s
one (with some caviates) has an overall benefit to the health of the individual, the other is purely cosmetic and gives zero health benefits to the dog
@@OurPetsHealth with all due respect, removing the natural production of steroidal hormones from animals (specially males) are far from benefitial. Actually, there is no worse mutilation than not allowing a puppy to get his/her fully development due to neutering in early age. The effects of agonadism or hypogonadism (even with very few research papers done so far) in animals seem to be similar to those shown in humans such as cardiac issues, loss of bone mass, depression, obesity etc.
I have always felt that it was weird for people to do that. My brother did it so his pit bulls will look more "fierce" . I thought it was complete bs. A dog will be firece and able to protect the home no matter about the ears .
you are right, it is completely cosmetic
@@OurPetsHealth Not really!!! They are protection dogs, not a sweet lab. If your dog stands between you and a person trying to harm you, do you want their ear yanked and them hurt? So, people RECOGNIZE the breed and will less likely bother you and then there is no biting incident that will get your dog KILLED! AND, floppy ears are not easily read! Pointy ears can speak volumes and let you know what the dog intends to do! VITAL for dogs bred to protect and it allows them even better hearing! NOT just cosmetic, but in this case, cosmetic helps and prevents bites and death to the dog. Some people are just to emotional to understand LOGIC.
@@whydoyoucare27 oh stfu “do you want their ear yanked” 😂a dog’s ears can get yanked no matter cropped or natural
It is easier and more painful when NOT cropped!
@@whydoyoucare27 source?😂
i always loved the upright look and thought it was natural. I always wondered why my pitbull terrier pup (1 year old) doesn't have that feature unlike his parents and a few of his siblings. He has floppy ears but one of his ears occasionally stands up, I learned about ear cropping and for a few months I though of bringing him to the vet to do it but welp, I figured I would miss his natural one up-floppy ears. No need to cause him unnecessary pain just for aesthetics.
Imagine getting your children under surgery just for looks, why would anyone do it with their dogs? I just cant understand.
@@Kingjeffkoch People get their kids circumsized for religion lol. Most people complaining about dog ear cropping probably have their own kids circumcizesd, considering over 70% of American men are.
@@BigballsTerrence Circumsizing has health benefits, cropping ears not so much its purely done for looks.
@@Kingjeffkoch No, it doesn't. That's a myth, countries that don't practice circumcision don't have any higher rates of disease, its all religion driven.
@@BigballsTerrence Yes it does, do your research. Prevents phimosa and other shit.
And yes as an American I can say I did not even know that that was not the natural form of Doberman ears. It is so common I don't think I've ever seen a doberman here without Pointed ears. if I did I definitely did not recognize it as a Doberman. My misconceptions growing up Dobermans have pointy ears and Pitbulls ''Pits'' don't have tails. Eventually it was explained to me they're "fighting dogs" and tails and sometimes ears are clipped so that their opponents have less to grab a bite. . . when they're fighting in the Pit thus the name Pitbull. I was too young and there was no internet to fact-check this. It didn't make it any better but it did make it make sense
Ear cropping is so common here in the US that I think many people don't even realize that it's a surgical procedure that causes them to look that way. If someone likes the "cropped ear" look maybe they should consider getting a Bull Terrier for example - they have ears that point up and look as though they are cropped but they are just that way naturally, no surgery required.
I think you are right that so many people think it's a natural thing rather than the result of surgery
That’s 100% true a lot of people here don’t even realize what happens to these poor dogs.
I honestly thought they were born with pointy ears like German Shepherds which I grew up with. I love pointy ears but I don't feel like I could do that to a dog. It's probably better I stick to GSD.
Louis Doberman created the Doberman with the tail docked and ears cropped....the tail on a Doberman is very thin and gets injured often and the cropping helps with hearing...I got my Doberman's ears cropped it's part of the whole Doberman package come to my house and tell my Doberman Johnny that I'm a bad for doing that to him and try to take him from me.
@@JohnnyBGood11 “fingers are thin and get injured often guess my kid doesn’t need them” that’s how you sound, btw dogs use their tails to help balance when they run.
My Boxer had her ears & tail left natural. I couldn’t imagine her with out them.
fantastic!
Want a cookie
Thank you, to people like you and all animal rescues. There needs to be better education and laws to prevent abuse. Maybe showcase natural looking dogs on dog shows and not mutilated ones.
You are spot on that breed standards need to completely exclude practices like these and really focus on the health of each breed
I have a Doberman and I didn't "mutilate" his ears as you babies say, I had his ears cropped, I asked my vet about it she said there's nothing wrong with it; it's just a group of people crying about nothing.....Part of the Doberman's look is the ears, that's what Luis Doberman did when he created this breed....my Doberman's ears stand up like goal posts and it helps his hearing and his tail is docked cry some more far left nut job babies...All Dogs would trade places with my Doberman he gets ran/walked twice a day and he spends zero hours in a cage like most of you guys do to your dogs,...I work at home so I'm with my Doberman 24/7 so stick it.
@@JohnnyBGood11 yup same with my dobie (who I purchased from a reputable breeder in the US), he’s living better lives than most people I know.
Dogs are living creatures. Not toys, and not dolls. I can't fathom the demented superficiality of people who would mutilate their pets just for aesthetics.
they are definitely much more than fashion accessories
As a Dane owner, I always feel sad for the American Danes I see with this done. They've been mutilated and end up looking totally stupid as a result. Breed Standards in the US need to be changed.
Your perception of this is wrong. Raise your information. Also, don't get your mind involved in a topic that has nothing to do with you, this is your personal opinion
That is not allowed in the Netherlands anymore. But that used to be normal for a Dobermann. My grandpa was a trainer and we had Dobermann dogs when I grew up and they looked agressive and dangerous with their ears cut. I have grown up with Dobermann dogs and a few years ago I saw a dog and asked the owner what breed is this? And it was a Dobermann with long floppy ears and a long tail lol. It didn't even look like a Dobermann anymore to me. But it shouldn't be done anymore for sure.
I hear you! It's amazing how different they look as nature intended. I love seeing spaniels, boxers, and all the other traditionally cropped dogs come to see me with long wagging tails!
They kept saying there is health benefits and couldn't name one just kept telling me I was uneducated in the matter and I'm just like what and they bring up abortion laws ..circumcision and ear piercings on babies to justify it and I'm just like this things and don't make this right I hate when people point fingers to justify their own reasoning
If you look at the comments, this is exactly the same thing some people are resorting to in their defence of this defenceless act
This was literally seen as one of the worst form or torture for humans.
I am considering a couple dogs as I get closer to retirement. And I'm interested in a medium-to-large the extra large. I really like the Pitbull and also considered a Cane Corso. Now was recently looking looking at a few photos and videos. And the first thing I noticed looking at this cane corso is that its ears and tail for clipped. And I thought to myself I don't want to do this. I would not want to have this done. I'm almost certain that this is people imposing their freaking preferences because that's what people do. But let me take to the internet and see what people have to say. I'm pretty sure there are going to be people touting Pros as "health benefits" and "must do's for the benefit of the animal". This is the first video I came across in my research. That extremely beautiful doctor confirmed my pre research feelings and thoughts. But I still got to search for the other side's arguments. I never know these practices were illegal in the UK. Good for you.
I watch the channel “the dodo” all the time, and very loving owners were considering cropping their dogs tail. They had a pit bull and he had a very long and powerful tail he would wag and bang into everything from being happy and excited. They had to put wraps on it since it was getting damaged all the time. I’m no expert, but that is the only reason I would ever consider something like this. Had no idea they did that to Dobermans. That is horrible.
tail tip damage in an individual does justify amputation in that dog but it's not nearly common enough to amputate every dogs tail of the breed. and ear cropping doesn't prevent anything, despite what some claim (as in the comments on this video 🤦)
Mutilation is always bad. It doesn't matter what their excuses are.
Even the excuse of a covenant with whatever imaginary friend you have. Many countries have banned ear cropping, but none have banned foreskin cropping!
I agree its disturbing practice for so called animal lovers. People are selfish.
It's up there with fgm that's awful and so is this, thank you for raising awareness xx
I don't care how much hate this may warrant but I love dogs, I grew up with 5 of them, one of which was a doberman and we had her ears and tail cropped and there were no issues! She was a happy, healthy, beautiful girl and we gave her a great life and she improved ours!
I'm 27 now with my own home, no dogs yet, but depending on the type of dog I get one day I would consider cropping. Sure its cosmetic but hey so are circumcisions.
One doesn’t justify the other
I'm not opposed to your beliefs, you're clearly in favour of whats best for the animal and I admire that but is it just a question of morality? Its fine to chop things off for medical reasons like testicles to prevent procreation or a tail riddled with cysts but the moment it becomes cosmetic its out of the question? Its just the level of hatred for it I can't get behind, just because someone has their dog cropped doesn't make them a bad owner.
circumcision is a fucked up procedure as well...
It's sad, my husky express so much through her ears, I know her mood just by the position of her ears, this mutilation of healthy dogs makes so angry and is totally unnecessary, if you want a dog with pointy ears then buy/adopt a breed with those traits..... German shepherd, husky collie, yorkie french bulldogs.....etc so many to choose from without having to mutilate a health pup.
I don’t believe in ear cropping or tail docking but if it is going to be done, it’s needs to be done by a trained veterinarian that is able to put the animal under for the procedure. And pain medicine prescribed for afterwards.
At least keep it as humane as possible. Just because it is for fashion doesn’t means the animal can’t feel it, even if they are puppies.
And because there is always that asshole, my dog is a GSD, their ears stand up naturally as they grow.
Whats a gsd
@@tac0_6 😂 A German Shepherd
We turned a wolf into a chihuahua and also English bulldogs and were saying messing with the ears is too far
So you are condoning animal cruelty?
@@RobynAndersonLaUgHsHaRd I believe people can do what they want with their animals if they want to crop ears or dock tails they should be able to. My original point is we have seriously messed up wolves by turning them into English bulldogs so cutting an ear and calling it cruelty is a bit dramatic
@@hankbresyn3582 WoW - So by your reasoning, just because an animal is under the ownership of a human, that gives the human the right to inflict pain (and yes, cropping and docking result in pain, the anaesthetic, if used, does wear off).
None of us were responsible for the domesticating of wolves - just because something was legal and correct in the past does not set a precedent for it being legal and right now - take child labour for example.
@@RobynAndersonLaUgHsHaRd you should stay out of other people's life
@@hankbresyn3582 you should stay away from animals.
A Working dog on a doberman - from experienced dog trainers - for year's...will not work with a dog with floppy ears because they blister. And this is from some one who has 20+ys almost and works 10hrs a day with them for protection .
Looking out of your window is illegal in the UK let alone docking your dog.
Lol
I am begging every single human being who comments on this or watches the video: please, please, please stop cropping dogs’ ears. It is one of the saddest things I know.
Question, my Doberman had his ears cropped at 2 1/2 months old now he’s 5 months old and the ears haven’t stand up at all . Should I be concerned.?
No, so long as everything has healed fully, there is no infection and they are not painful
The lady is not entirely correct. Litters are not sent abroad to be cropped.
There are plenty of unscrupulous breeders sending cropped and docked puppies to the UK. One "business" called cropped and docked dobermans in the uk regularly import full litters . They have the puppies less than a couple of weeks.
I think it's a case that both situations take place. Either way, the new legislation being worked on should hopefully help put a complete stop to both.
I think the only breed that I might have it done would be a doberman but at the same time I couldn't have a doggo's tail cut off. Too major a change and tails have bone in them. Just wouldn't feel right. And grabbing a dog's tail is a playful way to mess with them.
To me personally, chopping off a dogs testicles is far more inhumane then ear cropping. I see ear cropping in the same category as circumcision for humans.
Hi curious to know what sentencing someone would get for arranging for there dogs ears to be cropped, I currently know someone who is being investigated hoping karma bites hard?
I suspect little more than a slap on the wrist. Unfortunately even the most serious cases of animal cruelty don’t get even a fraction of the sentence deserved.
@@OurPetsHealth yes very sad he was being interviewed by police yesterday, I will let you know if I hear about the outcome 🙏
@@OurPetsHealth dog got taken off him so that's some good news unfortunately he was interviewed & prepared I won't say what happened as might give other people ideas. So it's some good news hopefully will get band 1 day as there's a long history of dog abuse but for now that's a little win 🌈
Just because it’s illegal where you live doesn’t mean it’s bad or abuse
Uhm yes it does. It's illegal exactly because it is painful and a risk to the dog's health for no other reason than aesthetics, which is cruel. That's the motivation behind it being illegal.
I can't believe this is even a thing!!!! How awful 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I know, but because it's so common in some parts of the world many people don't realise it's not the natural ear shape
is there any truth to the idea, it's only done because the floppy ear dogs get chronic ear infections and haematoma. I've had boxers, gsp and poodle cross and corso none of which ever suffered ear infections. in Australia it's also illegal and has been for the past 20 plus years.
Croppping and docking is a really shit. Why the governments still tolleratw these sick procedures?
thankfully less and less are tollerating this but if people want this look there will always be those who get it done by whatever means 😥
I have one question. I love going onto Instagram to scroll through pictures of staffies (desperately want to get a staffy someday,) and all these disgusting posts with pit bulls with cropped ears come up and though I report the posts nothing seems to be done about it. Does anyone know of any campaigns pressuring Instagram to stop encouraging this? I’d definitely be on board with supporting the removal of such content, it’s just cruel 😢
m sure if a newborn baby boy could communicate he would say he doesn't want his genitals cut yet we circumcise most males anyway. Just stop your bs Karen
Okay okay.....wow, I never realized that these dogs were mutalated, and kinda tortured(some). I actually am American, but never owned a doggy before but always see dogs since childhood with pointy ears.
not all dogs with pointy ears are cropped
but i always thought that doberman naturaly had pointed ears until i was looking at getting a dog so i know what you mean
what if you intend on getting it to be a working dog/protection dog so it’s not just for aesthetic purposes?.. I’m looking into getting one but I can’t decide if it’s wrong or not for them to have them cropped, I’m in a grey zone with it at the moment tbh🤷🏼♂️
ear cropping will not change their ability to do that job and trust me, a big dog that's behaving aggressively is scary whether they have cropped ears or not
If you get a Doberman I highly recommend cropping ears and tail. This is the best thing for you and the Doberman.
Get the ears and tail cropped by a professional.
It's also a good idea to cut off the dewclaws.
You can crop/dock the tail just the ears doesn’t matter because the tail can sometimes somehow get in the way of work apparently
Don't know about guard dog breeds but gundog breeds need floppy ears to protect them from sticks, brambles and the like as they crash through the undergrowth. My dad had to get our Springer spaniels tail taken down to a nub but that was because it kept getting infected due to the same things the ears defend against.
There is no logical reason for you to do it other than the fact you like the way it looks. Tail docking can be necessary if it is a particular breed which has problems with their tail such as a pug.
Ears literally makes no difference other than so called “fear factor” and even then it makes no difference. If a doberman is snarling, showing its teeth and barking I don’t think anyone in the right mind would choose to approach whether its ears are cropped or not.
It’s purely aesthetic and if you want to do it fine, but don’t use excuses and believe your own lies like so many do. Just be honest about why you’re doing it.
so happy it's banned in the UK
Performing medically unnecessary procedures that simply perpetuate the image of dogs as fashion accessories is outrageous. This image is promoted by the American Kennel Club at its canine beauty pageants and by breeders who believe that “their” breed will be “ruined” if it does not maintain the image handed down by parent breed clubs decades ago.
You are absolutely right
I love the babies crying about this.
when all you can do is insult the individual speaking, chances are your argument or opinions are pretty invalid
@@OurPetsHealth Well well well I invoked the so called expert on why cropping and docking dogs is bad,.. all the while you're too willing to take a males balls and a female insides because people are lazy and not responsible pet owners ,...hmmmm which is more detrimental to a dogs health cropping some ears and docking a tail vs gutting a dog so they cannot reproduce because of bad pet owners??....you make the call Pets Health.
@@JohnnyBGood11 because neutered animals tend to live longer on average and the surgery prevents some pretty common and dangerous diseases. Yes there are potential risks, especially if carried out too early in certain breeds, but in most cases, on balance, they are very much beneficial - ruclips.net/video/cKWpUu-GNo0/видео.html
Yes! STOP THE CROPPING!!!!
We need it made illegal in the us. Any unnecessary animal mutilation … declawing cats, tail docking, etc.
Is it worse than circumcision ?
I wouldn't circumcise a dog either. Human circumcision ethics is irrelevant to whether it's right or wrong for a dog to have their ear cut off
Their ears are healthier when they are cropped. I would like to get a weim with cropped ears. Dog lineage comes from it animals with erect ears. Whar happened?
What makes the ears healthier when chopped off?
Dogs with erect ears can get ear issues as well, sometimes it's the genetics. Owners should be cleaning their dogs ears, floppy or not.
What I find is that people are having their 8~12 week old puppies go through a painful process. I know in veterinary offices, the puppies are under anesthesia during the process, but once the puppy's awake? Horrible. They're in pain, they're crying and confused.
It's clearly only a cosmetic surgery since it's so common in certain breeds. You don't see labs, retrievers, cocker spaniels, etc having their ears cropped.
Ear cropping is nothing but cruelty and it looks horrible I hope it gets banned all over the world
Who is the specialist talking and is there a website for her campaign?
Cat's home is www.catthevet.com/
@@OurPetsHealth thank you. This is a horrific practice that should definitely end!
I wish this was more helpful than it was. It was mostly just talking about how abhorrent and disgusting it is without actually taking a deep dive into it. Too much emotion, too little facts.
Facts - no benefit to dogs, painful with risks, and only done because of a human desire for a particular aesthetic (I.e. fashion)
that would be awesome it cropped/docked imports were made illegal!
I recognize that you are certified vets, therefore you know far more than me, but I'm left with the question, ¿Why does ear cropping get such a bad rep? Considering it is mutilation, it is unnatural and completely useless, however, spaying and neutering is often practiced, and I would say that, if you don't want your dog to breed, take responsibility for it, beware around dogs if you have a bitch in heat, keep your male dog on a leash in breeding season, there's no reason to spay/neuter, it's just the owner's decision to go the easy way, causing hormonal imbalances and other issues on the way, please correct me if I'm wrong
Neutering/Spaying isn't done for aesthetic reasons. It helps immensely reduce ovarian cancer for females and testicular cancer for males, and of course, no accidental pregnancies. Typically females should be spayed before the first heat while males usually around 1 year as by that time, males have all the necessary hormones they need.
It also helps decrease aggression within male towards other males, as many unfixed males will start fighting over an female in heat.
Of course, this isn't always the case for EVERY dog, but it is pretty common.
@@teashark9878 Please do your research, as far more problems are caused by neutering and spaying. It is primeraly done for the convenience of the owners so they don't have to take on the responsibility of dogs in season.
@@Boerboel-qu9zg yess exactly!
You don't have to spay or neuter your dog anymore with a operation, there are chips you can put in your dog and they will do the job, no operation needed, less health issues and reduction of byb. Huge difference to mutilation
@@Boerboel-qu9zg I just wonder why people don't use chips, like I wrote in the comment below. It's much more simple and can be used if needed without causing any trouble. One of my males for example starves himself if a femal near our house is ready to mate (sorry idk the English word) and once he's fully grown I just use the chips for a year, see if it helps and how he reacts. If it's good for him I just change the chip each year without any operation needed. Cuz Literally EVERY operation is a risk.
It's sd to see some vets let OPINIONS get in the way of facts. Sometimes cropped ears are a must. Case is from dog to dog ofcourse.. but some dogs BENEFIT from it. People will still judge either way
Yes, for dogs with ear cancer or severe trauma cropping is beneficial. Any other facts with evidence rather than opinion behind them?
“Knocked it out” way too hopeful there bud
I fear you’re right
Just like breast implants, botox injections, circumcision, piercings, tattoos...if not performed professionally and properly bad things can happen. Otherwise the results are benign and personal.
And why target something as trivial as ear cropping? Why not spend the energy trying to make Ballet illegal?
Because trust me, what women do to themselves to match the criteria of Ballet is much worse.
Many very well educated people, and very well trained veterinarians don't have a problem at all with ear cropping being performed professionally. There is really nothing wrong with it. There are very specific intentions behind it.
Veterinarians should be begging people to allow them to perform the operation in a safe and well established professional environment. otherwise the practice just all goes to the underground, making things much worse for both the owner and the dog.
There are thousands upon thousands of very happy dogs that live very happy lives that have had their ears cropped. The dogs really don't care about it, they don't have the same opinions and feelings humans have. The short period of time posting the ears is just a minor annoyance for both the owner and the dog. There is no trauma unless the entire cropping gets botched, which is very unlikely.
Do you really think people are going to spend $3,000-$10,000+ for a Doberman and risk destroying their beloved pet+protectors ears? No, they are going to do it with care and attention to detail.
Just like a circumcised man, they live their life without any issues.
There are women (and men) that will only date men who have been circumcised. That's an issue, don't you think?
People forget what Dobermans were designed for. In fact many many people don't even know.
People should respect that Dobermans were designed by one man (Karl Dobermann), for a very specific reason.
Karl Dobermann did such a good job in his creation, that the Doberman is still worth breeding today. Why? Because humans and other animals still try murdering one another, and a Doberman instinctively prevents that. It's a beautiful instinct to have.
Dobermans have been preserved by men, for a very intelligent reason.
And there is nobody that can honestly say that an uncropped Doberman looks more intimidating than a cropped Doberman.
A Doberman with cropped ears will make a criminal think twice about entering into your home and doing irreversible harm to you and your family. And if all it took was a stoic look and cropped ears to keep them out, both the family and the Doberman would vote for cropped ears, every time.
Even if you take a stance against the practice, you should still respect the design.
Everyone should respect the history.
Some people think Dobermans are "Aggressive" dogs.
In fact, they are "Protective" dogs.
There is a difference between the two, and a protection dog should be politely respected.
Go after people that abandon their dogs, your time will be better spent.
Does a Doberman benefit in any way from having their ears cropped? Is having a surgical procedure where skin and cartilage are cut through really benign? Are the dogs themselves choosing to have their ears cropped to boost their own self esteem? Does having their ears cropped change their protective instincts? Does the fact that because one worse thing is happening mean we should ignore anything else we believe to be wrong?
No
Yes, absolutely to most of your questions.
Why do you think wolves, foxes etcetera... All have ears that are naturally standing up? It should be clear, it gives them an advantage in their environment. Cropping a dogs ears are putting them back into their natural position and their advantageous state. How did you miss that in your research?
Also try to keep in mind that Veterinarians are not dog psychologists. Even though they try to come across as such.
The thin tail of a doberman was never intended to be grown out, it's why the creator Karl Dobermann docked it. Karl Doberman would being doing a face palm if he saw all the dobermans with their thin tails whipping around, vulnerable to breakage.
That thin tail can break very easily, and the floppy ears can become injured and infected easily.
Dobermans are working dog's, they thrive on serving and protecting their Family. Anything else and that dog is living an unfulfilled life.
Veterinarians really like charging top dollar for tail repairs and surgeries, and those ear infection kits have a really good profit in them!
Cropping ears with a laser is really effective, advanced and modern veterinarians know this.
Men and women get laser surgery to correct their eyes, and to reduce ingrown hairs.
The problem with making cropping illegal is it pushes the practice to the underground, which is much worse for the dogs welfare.
Also, if the breed standard can not be maintained, breeders will stop breeding the Doberman, and it's gene pool will exponentially decrease and eventually the breed will be extinct.
Do you really want the beautiful and smart Doberman extinct, because your feelings get hurt thinking about a practice that has been safely done for over a hundred years?
I couldn’t have said that better myself. I have both cropped and natural dobies. After a big ear injury on my first dobie (uncropped) I said never again. I also have 2 cropped, it absolutely serves a purpose for these dogs as they’re working dogs. I have had the luxury of going to incredible cropping vets here in the US that make sure everything is done correctly, and it’s not cheap! Making this procedure illegal scares me knowing how people are, I’m sure there’s people out there that would start doing it themselves. That’s way worse than a medical professional doing it!
Totally agree with you and thanks for your very nice comment, wish that the people get more educated about this
@@3yorkiegirl Working dogs?? what do they work as?... U mean running back and forth in your yard barking at noises on other side of the fence? 🤨.Working dog my ass. Everybody likes to act like there living on a farm and they need these rough, tough working dogs. Just cut the shit and say u simply like the intimidating look.
I had this argument today
Personally I think anyone found to purchase or own a dog with cropped ears in the uk should face a fine up to 10k if it can be proved they knowingly purchased the dog like that then people will be unlikely to go ahead with purchasing dogs like it, then it will be less profitable for the people who are doing that horrible procedure to the dogs which I assume Are sold at a much higher premium.
10k 😆? Yeah that won’t happen.
that is completely stupid. It is personal choice. Why not make the same with spaying and castration? but no... it is benefical, it helps people to run from their responsibilities as pet owners... Why not draw such a fine on plastic surgery? Or maybe on dog clothes? or tons of other shits...
I do not know if i am surprised or just my hope in society is dying seeing so many people who are not even aware of this going against it. You did not know about it until a minute but now just because some random person tells you it is bad you are going to burn down houses and owners? It is a personal choice.I mean it can be done if it will save its life but not if it is just for appearance?
@@Lazyspaceout it is illegal in the UK, breeders are already doing it themselves and have been for many years, same with tails, so by making it an offence to own a dog with cropped ears by issuing heavy fines then there would less people wanting a dog with cropped ears then the breeders would stop doing it because they wouldn't be able to sell the puppies.
@@Lazyspaceout how would you know, fines for owning cropped dogs has never been implemented, so you have no argument to say it wouldn't work.
To the woman complaining in this video, they don't chop the tails off, the tails are Docked...it's a process look it up on the internet....this is why people are informed incorrectly, you have people saying the tails are chopped off when this is totally false information.
Dude if ya search tail docking and have the balls to watch a video you see someone take a pair of scissors veteran or not and literally just chop them off. No anaesthesia no nothing, because they think that the puppies nerves haven’t fully “developed” which is a load of baloney because animals are very much developed when they come out because if they weren’t they will die.
@@golden2370 I already watched videos docking tails and they don't "CHOP" the tails off they cut the tails at an angle, if they use anesthesia it could kill the puppy....When I was circumcised I didn't get any anesthesia and guess what I don't remember the pain. keep trying pussyfart, I laugh at the cry babies this world is creating a bunch of pussies.
Is it any worse than what breeders are doing to pugs by breeding them into disabilities and Health problems id say it is less cruel if anything
Just because something else is worse doesn't justify something that is also wrong. I've also spoken out about flat nosed dogs many times
@@OurPetsHealth true just saying thou bigger issues should really be laws protecting dogs from harmful selective breeding I haven’t seen those videos I’ll check them out
I’d probably equate this to humans getting there 2 yo child’s ears pierced even thou dogs get it worse is it abuse yes definitely is the government or society at large going to do anything about it probably not even if they are mutating a human baby it is a sad world we live in
@@Lazyspaceout you know elephants are wild right?
Glad I live in the US and we are able to keep Dobermans looking proper.
Bring the cropping back but do it correct people.
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do u suppose to tape the ears with the stitches still in the ears or do you wait to take them out before you post them
you are not supposed to ever chop parts of their ears off
@@OurPetsHealth i been doing it for years i wouldnt have a doberman with out crooping there ears..and let me tell you i have the best looking dobermans in the world..and you never answer the quuestion..anyway u have a great day..
The UK needs to ban the import of dogs with cropped ears, docked tails and de-clawed cats. I've also heard of some Americans removing their dog's voice box because they barked 'too much'. I don't know how the Kennel Club views these practices, but an import ban, fine/criminal record and de-registration from the KC would be a good start.
ALLOW CHOICE!
Switzerland is actually the most dog friendly from as far as I know, no cropping allowed there, no cropped dogs are allowed to be imported and there are super strict rules for all sorts of operations. So we could all just try to do the same I guess 😂
it’s no different than spaying or neutering a dog you didn’t ask the dog for permission and it doesn’t effect their health idk what the problem is
spay/neuter (depending on timing) has a positive effect on health and longevity unlike ear cropping
I mean, you could also tattoo your dog and it will probably be fine? Just like ear cropping it's painful and you take risks with infections and whatnot for absolutely no reason. Unlike spay/neutering which can be beneficial not only to one dog but to the whole dog population where it lives.
I am American, and I find it a barbaric practice. It's painful to the dog, and it's cruel. It serves no purpose other than the owner wanting their dog to look a certain way. But dogs are not toys.
thanks for your insight James. Unfortunately it's not one that's shared by everyone as you can see in the other comments
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When the dog has cropped ears he is just as happy as every other dogs and has no clue his ears are smaller or pointy. He grows like that perfectly happy and is as nice of a dog. Its just personal preference. You guys are completely not reasoning and are overiacting
What about the pain they had to go through to get their ears cropped, not to mention anesthetic and infection risks? Where is the justification for this "personal preference"?
@@OurPetsHealth i call this bullshit what the OP post. My dad owned pitbulls for many years since 80s and had their ears cropped till like 2006. Every dog that had their ears cropped had long lasting ear infection that we couldnt get rid of it. They lived outside had a well build dog house with thick styrofoam insulation and a 100w bulb when winter starts. But they still got ear infection when they get wet during rain.. while the dogs after 2006 who didnt get their ears cropped never had ear problems. We had a dog who lived for 16 years he always had ear problems he was a pitbull while his brother who didnt get his ear cropped never had any problems. The floppy ears protect them from rain and wind and other stuff. Remove them and its like being naked during winter days.
So true re the excuse of ''Rescue''!
Massive good looking {apart from the cropped and docked ears and tail} Dobermann 'Rescued'.....
Nonsense...These were imported purposefully because the owner wants that look. :(
This video its just trying to point out that cropping is illegal. I get it.
But..can we all just think there maybe multiple other reasons for owners to do this procedure?? Before trying to question or point out opinions NOBODY needs to hear?.
Personally i love the “natural ears and tail” look. Inspite of that, i HAD to let my puppy ears get cropped. HAD TO. It was as i thought it would be..heartbreaking (for us to know what was going on in the surgery) and the after care is ,as someone said, a pain in the *** for me and my pup.
One month in this.. and im just… really exhausted of hearing people talking loudly what they believe about it and how poorly they think of the owner (me in this case) for that Matter. I try to not care but it gets me.
I got exhausted of explaining everybody WHY we NEEDED to crop its ears. Exhausted of the previous nasty looks and the loudly comments. Now i just explain it to the ones i believe really care to know.
So please please please… before hurting somebody’s feelings, be more emphatic and delicate when looking for answers about this kind of procedures.
Why did your pup have to have their ears cropped?
For everything you said I still couldn't find your reason for cropping your dog's ears.
Is it bad that I want my dog's ear cropped? Or its tail docked? Is it really that huge of a problem? I am specifically talking about doberman here which from experience of my uncle who has raised about 12-16 of them, do not have any bad affects on them.
Tail docking is abuse the tail is one of the main ways a dog have to communicat wether it's communicating with dogs or humans if you want an accessory to your aesthetics by a chain not a smart and sentient bieng and even if ear cropping is less harmful it's a surgery every surgery comes with risks why make your buddy undergo unnecessary trouble? just so you can show how vain you are?
I like the natural ears. But if people want crop their dogs ears that's their right.
Why is it their right to perform a pointless, painful procedure?
@@OurPetsHealth Because America is a free country. It's a choice. Not everyone does it. Some people want their floppy ear dogs to have pointy ears and some don't.
I could say the same thing with dogs who have serious health problems because of inbreeding should be ban. And breed should be fixed with breeding it with another dog. All these dog clubs should just go. And yet people buy these deform dogs because they are cute.
Owners shouldn't crop or bob their dog's tail or ears, but breeding deform dogs is ok? And shouldn't be ban? I could say there's a double standard here.
Because we have not the right to interfere in other people's taste, at least we should not do it ourselves, if it is considered bad, others should not live according to our wishes. This pain cannot be proven, because it can be done very cleanly and with little suffering
surely it would be safer for the dogs to just make it legal to do via a vet. the people who want to are going to do it anyway
I don't know the law, but of course who make it illegaly should be hardly fined and even imprisoned.
Moreover, stupid things like these exist more because of general social acceptance rather than true desire. Once people will get used to new doberman look and they will be the odd one if they crop the ears (and hopefully they will be publically offended because of it) the phenomenon will slowly disappear.
The irony of Europeans preaching to others about morality and cruelty.
what a strange comment
I wonder how many wolves this guy has seen with droopy ears. Perhaps we need to breed for erect ears… back to where things started.
What have wolves got to do with this? How many wolves have you seen sleeping in people's beds? dogs ≠ wolves
I respectfully disagree.
mutilating a smart sentient being for aesthetics is abusive and vain
@@stoup7280 You're not crying hard enough. Ear cropping is already banned in several countries. Cropped ears are better for this breed long term, when it comes to health and function. All wild dogs have erect ears, it's for function and not for aesthetics. The ones with cropped ears have some of the best, most dedicated, educated, and caring dog owners. You're pretending that their owners are abusing them, which is absolutely ridiculous.
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With all the stuff going on in the world she is crying about this.
Haha yes ridiculous
Thought it was illegal
It is in many parts of the world, but unfortunately that does not stop people from either doing it themselves (seriously) or finding someone who will carry it out
I wish I could find a nonbiased explanation
person want their dogs ears to look a certain way - dog goes through cosmetic surgery - do looks certain way - no benefit to dog - painful and with other possible risks (infection, repeat surgery needed, anesthetic death, if not anesthetised then extreme pain)
@@OurPetsHealth it just doesn't seem nearly as bad as spaying and neutering that changes the dogs behavior, had emotional damage, and gives up to 500% more health risk or developing problems in my dog..and people castrate their dogs all the time not called mutilation
Nothing about this was biased. You’re just disappointed he didn’t say what you wanted to hear.
@@m.2151 I didn't want to hear anything but a non biased opinion
@@m.2151 also it literally opens with with him saying it's a "ridiculous" thing and using negative words such as "mutilation"...do you know what biased means?
You find it disgusting for people doing what they want with their property, and if you don’t like or agree whit it or even own those breeds… to each is own. I find it disgusting that vets give all these chemicals/vax/meds and expect you to come in monthly or quarterly to make loads of money when they can give you or direct you to natural remedies and feed. kibble they prescribe is just an expensive bag of fluff. Dogs can be fed raw or lightly cooked daily for way cheeper and that way you know what is in their food and what they do or don’t need.
So many things wrong with this rant, maybe I'll just leave it at the word "property"
everyone commenting saying how much they love animals are literally wearing cow skin on their feet and eating an animal 3 times a day. give me a break you bunch of hypocrites
i see you do not really understand the meaning of the word hypocrites
There is NOTHING mean about cropping and docking a PUPPY or circumcising a baby boy or piercing a baby girls ears! Get over it and stop making things illegal and allow owners or parents CHOOSE. Doing it when they are adults is mean...Get over yourselves. If you think it is mean don't do it. Most of these crybabies see nothing wrong with aborting human babies but get all upset over something stupid. Everyone...mind your own business!
Oh yeah, so "killing" a bunch of cells without a nervous system is cruel, but cutting off the majority of pleasure nerves off someone's dick is fine, mkay.
I find I very said you did not educate at all you just said you emotionally charged opinion on the subject smh nothing wrong with crop and dock done the right way!!!!
there is a lot wrong. cosmetic only procedure, no benefit to dog, risks and pain involved... although this clearly doesn't conform to your preexisting opinion
He’s a vet 😂
It is so ugly and cruel
I like the ear crop. Got my pups ears cropped professionally don't regret it.
Gross. There's literally NO ethical or medical reason to mutilate the ears. You are cutting off a needed body part just because you think it looks cool, yikes
That's why the United States is soo much better you don't get "convicted" for cropping and docking,...if you chop off the dogs tail or chop the ears then yes convict them but not for cropping and docking apples and oranges.
@@Smicc Ohh so you're not from the United States Adam Cooper ???,...my fault for talking to someone's opinion that does not mean shit...You can understand that.
Will somebody explain why ear cropping is frowned upon, yet castrating and spaying is perfectly ok, sending their hormones out if synch. Men have been fixing dogs for their own mean for decades. That’s why bulldogs cant breathe and German Shepherds have bad hips. Castration is mutilation. Hypocrites.
Neutering/Spaying isn't done for aesthetic reasons. It helps immensely reduce ovarian cancer for females and testicular cancer for males, and of course, no accidental pregnancies. Typically females should be spayed before the first heat while males usually around 1 year as by that time, males have all the necessary hormones they need.
It also helps decrease aggression within male towards other males, as many unfixed males will start fighting over an female in heat.
Of course, this isn't always the case for EVERY dog, but it is pretty common.
The breeding issues today are due to the folks who kept on breeding the dogs with awful genetics such as backyard breeders & puppy mills.
Ear cropping is nothing more than aesthetic. You could tell me it's for ear infections, but then all floppy eared dogs would be getting their ears cropped. People need to remember that cleaning is also essential for these ears. Weekly ear cleaning would help a bunch of dogs who get ear infections.
Your opinion is so ridiculous and offensive while neutering and removing dewclaws are legal which I believe these two surgery are more inhuman and such a narrow minded people like you are trying to follow things that beneficial for themselves not dogs or any animals . Please keep your opinion for yourselves and don’t try to decide for other people and dog lovers by raising a ridiculous campaign to make it illegal to import the breed that they love
You know you can buy them with their ears intact. Not sure last time I took back dew claws off, not appropriate for vast majority of dogs. Neutering has clear benefit for most so long as timed appropriately. And even if you don’t agree with it that doesn’t detract from the fact that Ear cropping literally just cosmetic with no benefit to the dog. Who’s narrow minded?
But why not just get one with the ears intact?? once you hear there is zero benefit to removing ears and tails i honestly dont understand how people that claim to love their dogs still have an argument for it makes me wonder did u get a dog just to look cool 🤔. Imagine putting your child through physical pain just so others can comment on how bad ass your kid looks.
@@jasonbad7658 yeah? let;s pretend ear piercing does not exist
I bet you eat meat
bruh declawing a cat is no where near as close to this. i don’t even like cats and i can say that’s far worse than ear cropping. you’re taking away their right to defend themselves, climb something. ear cropping doesn’t harm them during, after ,and in years to come. it has no long term affects. sure it can be painful, it’s a surgery. but yk what had more risks than ear cropping? spay/neutering. spay/neutering isn’t necessary at all. maybe learn to control and actually take care of yours dogs so they won’t be running around getting other dogs pregnant. ear cropping also doesn’t hit any bones or anything. and lastly you can’t tell someone what to do with their dog, cause if anything you’re only gonna make them wanna do it more. so maybe just mind yalls business. 🙂
I can tell someone that in my professional opinion what they are doing is completely wrong and has no justification. If they choose to ignore me and mutilate their dog then that that is on them.
Yes, I agree that declawing is worse but that doesn't make this right. Spay neuter is a much more complex + nuanced situation that I agree is not right for everybody and every dog
this is full of feelings, the word "disgusting" and almost none comparison of both sides of the arguments or any important facts around the procedure.... The video just do not hold up well.
What's the other side of the argument? "I want my dog's ears to look like that even though I know it's of absolutely no benefit to the dog and requires a painful surgery to achieve". Now that's an argument that doesn't hold up well!
@@OurPetsHealth you argument is not even argument... This is a statements, yes, not argument but your words are one as well. The video is full of shit statements and no real argument as your position does not give you some magical right to say what is what without enough facts and just go on with it. Absolutely useless video with no value out of emotions.
Shame you are so outright biased. I'm not one for the ear-cropping world etc. But don't pretend it's entirely useless.
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I'm just curious what exactly makes these poor babies' ears stand up after they've been docked or wrapped? Is it scar tissue? So hoping yo see the practices made illegal in all Canadian provinces and territories!s
yep, its the scar tissue. 🤞 for Canada and the rest of the world
Ear cropping is mutilating but neutering is not???
one (with some caviates) has an overall benefit to the health of the individual, the other is purely cosmetic and gives zero health benefits to the dog
@@OurPetsHealth with all due respect, removing the natural production of steroidal hormones from animals (specially males) are far from benefitial. Actually, there is no worse mutilation than not allowing a puppy to get his/her fully development due to neutering in early age. The effects of agonadism or hypogonadism (even with very few research papers done so far) in animals seem to be similar to those shown in humans such as cardiac issues, loss of bone mass, depression, obesity etc.