I have always owned German Shepherd dogs. I would’ve never thought in a million years I would be sitting here watching your videos right next to my five year old male rescue Doberman. He is the most easy-going dog I have ever met in my life. I did not have small children, but if I did, I would not have any issues whatsoever allowing this dog around my children. He is a Velcro dog and I’ve never had a dog that really and truly wanted to be around me as much as he does. Unlike my German shepherds, he is a dream come true on a leash. He is so unfazed by any passing dogs or animals. He walks so proudly on the leash with his head held high. He is so chill, and I absolutely cannot believe anyone would abandon this amazing dog. I’m so blessed he came into my life. Seriously, I can’t believe he’s my dog!
good luck my friend...could of, would of, should of bought a dobe...bought instead a lab due to popularity and my kids and i have had two dobes in the past...they are all good dogs: labs, GSD, dobes...i know you will find the perfect dobe...
Having raised Doberman puppies all my life, last year I adopted an adult male from a Doberman rescue. It was a no brainer for me, because I've slowed down and no longer have the farm and the acreage for a puppy to grow up with, and getting a 6+ year old was great for me. Because I'm very familiar with the breed, the medical issues he came with were not a deterrent as I've dealt with them before. One of the things you mentioned about not knowing the history is spot on. I discovered my dog doesn't like large groups of people, and he wants to make snacks out of little dogs, but he's great with my indoor cats. You really will find out things like this on your own usually, after you leave the shelter, so be prepared. Other than that, I won't be purchasing puppies to raise anymore. I will give a good home to seniors who like living with seniors now. 😀
For someone like you with lots of experience with the breed, do you recommend any supplement for their heart ? I will be getting my first Dobe at the end of the year and plan to follow John's training videos.
Yes, great tip for others to read what you said about finding out their quirks, likes, and dislikes after the fact. Kudos to you for adopting older Dobies, Sandy!
The most important thing I now consider when thinking about getting another doberman is health. I can adapt to higher energy, either sex etc. My next dobe will be a male American/European mix that is show quality. Black and Rust appeals the most to me. Unless my female expires before my male. I'll always have 2 opposite sex. Until the day I die no matter my age. When I get too old to train I'll go the adult adoption route. My first one was 16 months old rescue. He was fabulous!! Ohhhh but the joy of raising that pup is work that made my bond deeper than theirs I'm sure.
Over the years we’ve adopted a male Blue puppy who lived to nearly 11 and currently have a male Rust we rescued at age 2. He’s now nearly 14! Amazing dogs!
Our first Doberman was an American show/pet. She was very reserved and calm. She did have the Doberman protection. There were several occasions where she went into DobieMode, as we called, she saved me from a stranger who came to our door and wanted to come in. She was having nothing to do with the guy even getting on the porch! I was so glad to have her. She was 14 when she passed. We currently have a 2 year old European male working dog. He is so full of energy and wants to play 24/7. People often ask which we preferred, all I can say they both are Dobermans with their own personalities.
I have been sponging up ALL your videos. THANK YOU! We're getting Rambo (black/light rust) in 4 weeks just off of our summer vacation. He'll be about 10wks old. Puppy prepping now. He's a registered pet European American hybrid. The dad is European American 120lbs and mom is American 85lbs. Rambo is the biggest male in the litter. We're super excited to have him join our family. He'll be an indoor/outdoor dog. We live in the country so he'll get plenty of exercise in our fenced 1 acre area around the house. Our kids are both teenagers and we have two indoor cats. My parents bread and trained Dobermans when I was very young. They're really excited for us.
If I could choose and have one it would be: American Female Adult Black and Rust Reason being I’m over 50, living alone and it would be a great friend, protector, and I could do agility with it.
I chose the original black and rust male puppy but I chose European Doberman because I live alone but I'm very active and I just purchased a Euro Dobie puppy which I am picking up tomorrow
My doberman Heidi is an American female. Her and I have a strong bond with each other. She came to our ranch a year ago and she was in bad shape. She didn't trust nobody because she was seriously abused by her previous owner and it took me two weeks to earn her trust. But now she's just a big baby. And a house dog to boot.
Hi Lori, I am on a breeder list for Euro Doby Male puppy black and rust. I never had a Doberman before but i had dogs for over 20 years. The doberman will be my first strong breed I should say, I am a little nervous on how I will be able to handle the dog but I plan to follow John's videos from the start so hopefully I will succeed. Also I am a very active 5.3 woman who trained her own horses to do tricks.
@@bisou7856 Very cool! You will be just fine, don’t be nervous at all. Starting with a puppy, building that bond and trust, will be the most rewarding experience you ever had with a dog. I’ve been around horses and if you can handle/train them, you’ll have NO problems with your Dobie! I’m excited for you!!❤️🐾
@@loriw2661 Thank you so much for responding, I am also hoping to meet other Doberman owners in my area of Northern VA when the time comes as I know sometimes there are group of owner that get together with their dogs, just not sure if it is a thing with Doberman and their people. Do you use any health supplements for hearts and joints too ? I've seen some online that are specifically for Dobermans.
@@bisou7856 I don’t use anything on my own. I have the heart check done along with bloodwork. If my vet recommends using supplements or anything else, then I’ll use them. At 2 years old you can X-ray their hips (usually done for OFA cert) to make sure their ball/socket is healthy.
Good video. I’ve had them since the 70’s. I’ve always had black and rust because of health issues that can go with having diluted colors. Back in the day I don’t remember even seeing reds and definitely not the others. Something you don’t bring up is eye color. Darker colored eyes, almost black, used to be the standard and indicated less dilution. I’ve had American, Euro, male, female, working, show, AKC pup and rescues and I think you’ve pretty much nailed that. The only thing I’d add is that the working dogs or Euros are really fearless. They are not as likely to be concerned with lightning, loud noises or fireworks. I’m an older adult. When I am needing another dog, I’ll likely get a rescue dog, female, American or Euro because I’ll get to meet them first and know what I’m getting. Females seem to be slightly more calm and the females we’ve had are definitely more attached to one person. Our large, intact, euro male can be trusted with all kids and even though he’s intact, he gets along with almost all dogs. Definitely more playful and has tons of energy. That said, we live in a farm so they all get tons of exercise. Just want to add that Dobermans didn’t used to have all the health issues they do today. I’ve been lucky, so far, and no Doberman related health issues. It may be their color plays a role, or exercise, or diet. And maybe just luck. Thanks for all the videos!
I have been a foster home for our local doberman rescue group for 25 years. I love the effort you put into this video! Have been blessed to foster and "foster fail" with several dobes from both American and European lines, you have done great research identifying valid points of consideration. One of my biggest frustrations with potential adopters is their unwillingness to do thorough research before deciding to adopt. Thank you for your beautiful channel and the amazing effort you put into educating the masses about this amazing breed!
Thank you, Tracey! It's so important to us to help people be well-informed about the different types of Dobies out there. Thank you for all your hard work being a foster home for Dobermans in need!
My mom has a European and an American. Her European seems to be a little more protective than her American. They are both females. They are both very confident. Then again it could just be her Dobermans.
Well John this a wonderful video to support newbies to the Doberman breed. When it comes to choose working line vs pet/show line Dobermans you did not mention a specific characteristic with working line Dobermans. They not only have more drive and need more exercise or oppertunities for workout. What is really hard: they are 24/7 on guard, significantly more than pet or show line Dobermans. These Dobermans check and sense everything, everywhere and constantly. And if you not be aware of them they make their own decisions which are based on their breeding prupose being a personal guard dog. So when you leave your homestead, property or flat you have to have a closer look on your dog. Working line Dobermans doing their job constantly, but you have to do your job as well - to supervise the dog in the same way. Believe me that's gona be hard sometimes.
We had the European Red/Blue Dobie boy but he passed last year in June at 12.5 yrs old from heart issues. We adopted him at 7 yrs old and with skin issues and we took care both his heart and skin issues and his skin got healed but his heart was the reasoned he passed at 12.5yrs old. Now we just adopted another European Dobie girl she's black & tan an AKC Certified working protection blood line dad and she's 1.8 yrs old. They have similarities in behavior with the red blue Dobie boy we had but also as your video said she's not as accepting right away with people than the boy Dobie. We're enjoyed our time with our previous Dobie boy and now we're learning and enjoying our black tan girl Dobie. Thanks for sharing your knowledge to many of us.
I adopted my 2nd adult female Doberman about 1.5 years ago! I adopted both from a dobie rescue, at different times! They were both about 5yrs. old when I adopted them! I am in my late 60's and this age is so much easier to manage!❤
I wish I would have known this earlier. I've had 7 American Dobies over 50yrs, having more than one at a time. I didn't ask when I bought my current puppy and he's an Euro. So different from the others.
We had dobermans since i was like 6. All "working" type european ones. All were really cool with kids, even stranger ones. All protection trained but they "knew" when stranger was ok or not. So they didnt mind petting from kids from nearby school when we were going out with him. One was winning awards on contests , but they banned ones with cropped ears later. Our last one just celebrated 13th birthday yesterday. And all considered exept some age related issues, he can still walk and is happy. ( half of his siblings are alive too, good line i guess). When i get my own dog, dobie is sure choice. Once you get over puberty. I loved goofy, sometimes acting dumb but they were not, pragmatic dogs. Only thing (cant be mad) couldnt even go to bathroom alone. But you would look at them and seen the love they have.
I have two red and rust Dobermans. My girl is almost 7 and she is from a show line. Just me and my husband living in the home, but my daughter and grandson live close and are over all the time. Ziva is close to all of us, but I am her person. My male, Tony, will be 5 at the end of the year. His sire is American/ Chilean lines, his dam Chilean. His looks and temperament run right down the European lines, and he is typical male with the love and goofiness for all family members. He loves my 1 yo grandson, but as with my female, I am his person, also. Probably because I do the training and the feeding. Love them bunches! 😊
I love our 2 Euro Dobies, one female blk/rust and the other female red/rust. Our red/rust was given back to the breeder because they mentioned their daughter was allergic to her. I did love that I didn't have to go through the ears stage again but she did have trust issues which extra love and training classes couldn't handle.
Zeke is definitely different from my first Doberman, Ruger was an America and Zeke is Europe Dobermans. I won’t ever get another European Doberman because they are really different than the American Doberman,
I've had two black and rust males. The first passed away at six years old due to DCM (he was also a newspaper ad puppy / questionable bloodlines). The next one I had was from a fantastic breeder specializing in European Pride of Russia lines. Unfortunately, I had to leave him behind during a divorce. (I did end up fleeing with my Malinois tho). Long story. So, heartbroken, I never thought I'd have another doberman. Then serendipitously this Spring, the same breeder reached out to me with a red and rust female pup that was the last remaining in that litter. I hadn't talked to her in years. I couldn't resist. So to recap: two black and rust males and one red and rust female all from European working lines. I also have a German Shepherd and Belgian Malinois. Don't worry, I have a pet vacuum - and big yard. :-) Love your channel.
Black n rust...from a century of registered champions. Zeus cost me 50k. That was a discount, he's worth much much more. He's priceless. Runs 10 miles a day EVERYDAY we start at 4 am. I'd put him against any dog anywhere anytime. Tricks speed agility intelligence protection work. He's unstoppable ❤
I would choose American, female, rescue and show. I almost got a Dobie and stopped when I saw an indicator that they might be ready to attack strangers. So I got a Ridgeback. Mistake. This dog is so headstrong, boorish, unintelligent and cares less about pleasing me. Wish I had followed my first instinct when adopting.
That's how it was. My life was absolutely perfect. My Dobie was my soul dog - she was perfect. I miss her so much. Things aren't perfect anymore - very far from it.
In 2015, I adopted my Euro male and American female. My male is not going to last much longer so I decided it is time to get a playmate for my female and to cushion the inevitable blow both of us will face in the next year. I pick up a Euro American mix male tomorrow. I love these dogs.
But if you’re purchasing them and taking them in at 3-4 months old then how can you possibly know what their personal.. (AHEM 🗣👊🏼) DOGalnality is going to end up being?? I chose my last one from 5 remaining (him + 4 others) because when they all ran out to pee he A. Hiked his leg like a Manly Dog (at only 3 months old) instead of squatting like his 2 brothers (and of course 2 sisters) B. The other 4 immediately ran back in to the comfort of their bedding + cage while HE remained out in the grass exploring, sniffing etc In hindsight reason B might’ve been a clue that I missed because as an adult he liked to sometimes take off at the drop of a hat and not listen to me telling him to get his ass back here. Fortunately I sought help and learned how to correct that behavior. He was the first Doberman I’d had that did that to the degree that he did it so it was unexpected.
First off i love watching your videos on Dobermans ,I found a great breeder that have American and European Dobermans, my puppy a ( female) mother is a American dobbie the dad is European dobbie I think i got the best of both worlds.
I like a black ack & rust, European working class Dobi male. When I was a teen I had one. He lived to 13 yrs.. He was a great. I am undecided weather I should get a male or female 🤔.
1.5 yr old European red & rust male Baloo, was wedding gift from breeder amazing animal,taught to hunt truffles hahaha welcoming our first child in august his demeanor change has been amazing to watch so protective of momma and the baby in oven.. but so gentle when kisses her via moms belly ❤❤
@@sherrcon I’m located in Southern California so is the breeder, looking to breed him soon just looking for red and rust female, I don’t want to breed back to black and tan he comes from 2 litter lines of only red and rust Dobermans
Genetic lines are critical. In Southwest Florida are there any breeds of show dobermans or pet dobermans? Well rounded pet would be my choice. Thank you for the info. Your channel is the best.
Hey John, loved the video, seeing Remy's footage made my day. I can honestly say Remy and Baxter are completely different dogs absolutely. Both with their own unique amazing qualities, although very much align with everything you stated. Here's what I would possibly add to your pick doberman card. How long are you wanting to wait to adopt and how much are you willing to spend? I say this because three weeks ago we almost got a third european black and rust male from the same breeder as Remy because one of their adopters had to back out and wanted to know if I wanted Remys brother. But since these dogs are in such high demand the prices are way up there to adopt especially from a tested bloodline. So we decided to stick with the two.
Never an American Dobermann for me and white version also never for me because banned from FCI and EU Dobermann version is also a famely dog I can now it because 40 years back I owned two Dobermann Pinchers here in the Netherlands !🤠
I currently have my 9th and 10th Dobermans and your descriptions were totally in linenwith my experiences-havebhad a close bond with all of them but have joked that some of my females weren't just velcro dogs-they wanted to live inside my skin 😂-my males were much more tolerant of new puppy when one joined tho all were bonded to the other dog and to me-omly negative for me is they don't have as long a life as i wish but the happiness they brought far outweighed the pain of loss tho not immediately
I have had both. you cannot go wrong with either. I do have a question however. My European, Jagger is eight years old. I would like to get a puppy. However I would not want to upset him. Is a puppy at his age a good idea, or should i wait?
I had black and brown ,reds blue i have had 2 my uncle bought from Germany and was very happy with both they both bonded to my mom and i never caged ither 1 ove them tey all had free rieng ove home thats what they were bread for protect we never locked our doors my uncle drunk opened he got bit i now own 2 mom passed a red and black no brown but white paws
Im going to be looking for a replacement service dog and had the same results as you but for different reasons. This was informative for sure, before this I was looking at European but now realize that may not be a good fit for me
I have been watching almost every video you've made on Dobermans as they are my favorite dog breed have always wanted one. I feel for the most part I have all the same marked except when it comes to color I love all of them so my thing is if I can find a reputable breeder in my area I don't mind any of the colors some of it may factor in cost as some costs less like pure black doberman or rust or Gray those tend to be less amount. Pure Black or melanistic maybe my go to or black and tan if had to choose. Is there any under lining issues health wise with a pure Black doberman?
Great video, John! I think you made a lot of good points to help people choose the right Doberman for their lifestyle. I've had European Dobermans and an American European Hybrid in the past. Currently, I own a 2.5 years old black & rust male European working line Doberman. He is an amazing dog, but only because I put the work in (and still do every day). Very high drive, and he needs his 2-4 hours training and exercise every day. If, for whatever reason, it might be a little less, you immediately know it😅. We are training for IGP titles.
We have a,European brown & rust. He is, as you have described for the European, not sure, if he's show or working. I would like to a gene test. I think I would go for an American next time, maybe a show line, female.
I had excellent experience with my blk/tan American female pet Dobie. Will definitely get that again. She was good with the entire family, especially the little kids, but was decidedly my girl. I'm hoping to train the new dog as my PTSD service dog, and we have a farm, now, so definitely a puppy to ensure socialization with both people and animals.
I have a very big 4yr old male purebred hybrid. I have a female purebred European puppy. & I have a 1yr old female American that I rescued. All are black & rust.
In another of your videos you discussed adult dobermans not adapting/accepting new owners because of strong loyalty. Is this a common difficulty in adopting adult dobermans from rescue groups?
No, Dobermans are very smart. When they are in a kennel for weeks or months on end with no individualized attention, they are typically very thankful to the person who rescues them, plays with them, and spends time with them.
Everything matches yours except I would probably get an adult. This is my second marriage and neither husband has ever wanted a Doby. So it would be my first as well. And I think he would be easier to convince if he could see the personally already there, plus knowing he wouldn't be the one having to deal with the puppy training (piddles). Since I'm the one gone for 12 hours at night then trying to sleep all day.
Sounds like a bad time to add a high drive Velcro dog, sadly. Especially if your hubby doesn't want one, AND will have to care for it the majority of the time.
Ya I know. Plus right now we already have 3 dogs. So I wouldn't even consider it until we are down to not more than one left probably none thou. But I can always dream. Right now we have a mal-heeler mix. And her son is that and half cessie plus a beagle.
My first Doberman Katyusha= black&rust, pet line, American/ Euro hybrid female and puppy. My second Doberman Zastava = red&rust, pet line, 100%Euro also female and puppy. I didn't want 2 black&rust so they are easier to tell apart at a distance.
This was a great video! We love our Red and Rust doberman. Luckily, we chose the right dog for our family from Doberman of the Triad rescue organization. Our next doberman would be black and rust, European, male, puppy working dog. We are an active family, and enjoy training and working with our dog
Our beautiful girl is an American Doberman mix but I don’t know if she’s working or show as she’s adopted. If you looked at her, you’d never know she wasn’t a full Doberman aside from her size. Though she’s about to turn 2 years old, she looks like a six month old puppy.
Have two Doberman ‘s European as live in the uk. My boy is chocolate and weighs 33kg, very sensitive, tuned into both myself and husband. But when out walking he is very much my protector, as very uncertain when men come along path towards me. Protective. My female is Black and Tan, she is 42kg and a very happy dog, friendly with everyone, but very mischievous.
I would have the same doberman as you, only female! Because of our cats we need a puppy. Our beloved Lady passed four months short of her 12th birthday, a year ago April 29th. So we are now at a stage in our grief where we can move on to our next doberman. Wish us luck! This was an awesome and informative video. Thank you so much!
I have always owned German Shepherd dogs. I would’ve never thought in a million years I would be sitting here watching your videos right next to my five year old male rescue Doberman. He is the most easy-going dog I have ever met in my life. I did not have small children, but if I did, I would not have any issues whatsoever allowing this dog around my children. He is a Velcro dog and I’ve never had a dog that really and truly wanted to be around me as much as he does. Unlike my German shepherds, he is a dream come true on a leash. He is so unfazed by any passing dogs or animals. He walks so proudly on the leash with his head held high. He is so chill, and I absolutely cannot believe anyone would abandon this amazing dog. I’m so blessed he came into my life. Seriously, I can’t believe he’s my dog!
Perfect that this came now when I'm in the starting pits to buy a Dobermann after my beloved middle Pinscher has left earthly life ❤️
good luck my friend...could of, would of, should of bought a dobe...bought instead a lab due to popularity and my kids and i have had two dobes in the past...they are all good dogs: labs, GSD, dobes...i know you will find the perfect dobe...
Having raised Doberman puppies all my life, last year I adopted an adult male from a Doberman rescue. It was a no brainer for me, because I've slowed down and no longer have the farm and the acreage for a puppy to grow up with, and getting a 6+ year old was great for me. Because I'm very familiar with the breed, the medical issues he came with were not a deterrent as I've dealt with them before. One of the things you mentioned about not knowing the history is spot on. I discovered my dog doesn't like large groups of people, and he wants to make snacks out of little dogs, but he's great with my indoor cats. You really will find out things like this on your own usually, after you leave the shelter, so be prepared. Other than that, I won't be purchasing puppies to raise anymore. I will give a good home to seniors who like living with seniors now. 😀
For someone like you with lots of experience with the breed, do you recommend any supplement for their heart ? I will be getting my first Dobe at the end of the year and plan to follow John's training videos.
Yes, great tip for others to read what you said about finding out their quirks, likes, and dislikes after the fact. Kudos to you for adopting older Dobies, Sandy!
They tend to love cats (and also use them as pillows).
The most important thing I now consider when thinking about getting another doberman is health. I can adapt to higher energy, either sex etc. My next dobe will be a male American/European mix that is show quality. Black and Rust appeals the most to me. Unless my female expires before my male. I'll always have 2 opposite sex. Until the day I die no matter my age. When I get too old to train I'll go the adult adoption route. My first one was 16 months old rescue. He was fabulous!! Ohhhh but the joy of raising that pup is work that made my bond deeper than theirs I'm sure.
I'm about to get one finally after years of wanting one, so this is great timing, thanks!
Over the years we’ve adopted a male Blue puppy who lived to nearly 11 and currently have a male Rust we rescued at age 2. He’s now nearly 14! Amazing dogs!
Our first Doberman was an American show/pet. She was very reserved and calm. She did have the Doberman protection. There were several occasions where she went into DobieMode, as we called, she saved me from a stranger who came to our door and wanted to come in. She was having nothing to do with the guy even getting on the porch! I was so glad to have her. She was 14 when she passed. We currently have a 2 year old European male working dog. He is so full of energy and wants to play 24/7. People often ask which we preferred, all I can say they both are Dobermans with their own personalities.
These doberman planet videos are the best.
I have been sponging up ALL your videos. THANK YOU! We're getting Rambo (black/light rust) in 4 weeks just off of our summer vacation. He'll be about 10wks old. Puppy prepping now. He's a registered pet European American hybrid. The dad is European American 120lbs and mom is American 85lbs. Rambo is the biggest male in the litter. We're super excited to have him join our family. He'll be an indoor/outdoor dog. We live in the country so he'll get plenty of exercise in our fenced 1 acre area around the house. Our kids are both teenagers and we have two indoor cats. My parents bread and trained Dobermans when I was very young. They're really excited for us.
If I could choose and have one it would be:
American
Female
Adult
Black and Rust
Reason being I’m over 50, living alone and it would be a great friend, protector, and I could do agility with it.
I chose the original black and rust male puppy but I chose European Doberman because I live alone but I'm very active and I just purchased a Euro Dobie puppy which I am picking up tomorrow
My doberman Heidi is an American female. Her and I have a strong bond with each other. She came to our ranch a year ago and she was in bad shape. She didn't trust nobody because she was seriously abused by her previous owner and it took me two weeks to earn her trust. But now she's just a big baby. And a house dog to boot.
European, Show, Female Black and Tan, Puppy. Strong believer in letting the puppy choose you, though when you meet the litter. ❤ 🇬🇧
I have a melanistic blue, and we have bred her to a melanisric fawn. We got a melanistic red girl that I'm keeping.
Male, German, Black/rust, puppy. I have 30+ years of Dobe experience. They’re the absolute BEST!!
Hi Lori, I am on a breeder list for Euro Doby Male puppy black and rust. I never had a Doberman before but i had dogs for over 20 years. The doberman will be my first strong breed I should say, I am a little nervous on how I will be able to handle the dog but I plan to follow John's videos from the start so hopefully I will succeed. Also I am a very active 5.3 woman who trained her own horses to do tricks.
@@bisou7856 Very cool! You will be just fine, don’t be nervous at all. Starting with a puppy, building that bond and trust, will be the most rewarding experience you ever had with a dog. I’ve been around horses and if you can handle/train them, you’ll have NO problems with your Dobie! I’m excited for you!!❤️🐾
@@loriw2661 Thank you so much for responding, I am also hoping to meet other Doberman owners in my area of Northern VA when the time comes as I know sometimes there are group of owner that get together with their dogs, just not sure if it is a thing with Doberman and their people. Do you use any health supplements for hearts and joints too ? I've seen some online that are specifically for Dobermans.
@@bisou7856 I don’t use anything on my own. I have the heart check done along with bloodwork. If my vet recommends using supplements or anything else, then I’ll use them. At 2 years old you can X-ray their hips (usually done for OFA cert) to make sure their ball/socket is healthy.
@@loriw2661 thank you.
Good video. I’ve had them since the 70’s. I’ve always had black and rust because of health issues that can go with having diluted colors. Back in the day I don’t remember even seeing reds and definitely not the others. Something you don’t bring up is eye color. Darker colored eyes, almost black, used to be the standard and indicated less dilution. I’ve had American, Euro, male, female, working, show, AKC pup and rescues and I think you’ve pretty much nailed that. The only thing I’d add is that the working dogs or Euros are really fearless. They are not as likely to be concerned with lightning, loud noises or fireworks. I’m an older adult. When I am needing another dog, I’ll likely get a rescue dog, female, American or Euro because I’ll get to meet them first and know what I’m getting. Females seem to be slightly more calm and the females we’ve had are definitely more attached to one person. Our large, intact, euro male can be trusted with all kids and even though he’s intact, he gets along with almost all dogs. Definitely more playful and has tons of energy. That said, we live in a farm so they all get tons of exercise. Just want to add that Dobermans didn’t used to have all the health issues they do today. I’ve been lucky, so far, and no Doberman related health issues. It may be their color plays a role, or exercise, or diet. And maybe just luck.
Thanks for all the videos!
I have been a foster home for our local doberman rescue group for 25 years. I love the effort you put into this video! Have been blessed to foster and "foster fail" with several dobes from both American and European lines, you have done great research identifying valid points of consideration. One of my biggest frustrations with potential adopters is their unwillingness to do thorough research before deciding to adopt. Thank you for your beautiful channel and the amazing effort you put into educating the masses about this amazing breed!
Thank you, Tracey! It's so important to us to help people be well-informed about the different types of Dobies out there. Thank you for all your hard work being a foster home for Dobermans in need!
My mom has a European and an American. Her European seems to be a little more protective than her American. They are both females. They are both very confident. Then again it could just be her Dobermans.
Well John this a wonderful video to support newbies to the Doberman breed. When it comes to choose working line vs pet/show line Dobermans you did not mention a specific characteristic with working line Dobermans. They not only have more drive and need more exercise or oppertunities for workout. What is really hard: they are 24/7 on guard, significantly more than pet or show line Dobermans. These Dobermans check and sense everything, everywhere and constantly. And if you not be aware of them they make their own decisions which are based on their breeding prupose being a personal guard dog.
So when you leave your homestead, property or flat you have to have a closer look on your dog. Working line Dobermans doing their job constantly, but you have to do your job as well - to supervise the dog in the same way. Believe me that's gona be hard sometimes.
I struggled with the puppy stage’s ear postings .
We had the European Red/Blue Dobie boy but he passed last year in June at 12.5 yrs old from heart issues. We adopted him at 7 yrs old and with skin issues and we took care both his heart and skin issues and his skin got healed but his heart was the reasoned he passed at 12.5yrs old. Now we just adopted another European Dobie girl she's black & tan an AKC Certified working protection blood line dad and she's 1.8 yrs old. They have similarities in behavior with the red blue Dobie boy we had but also as your video said she's not as accepting right away with people than the boy Dobie. We're enjoyed our time with our previous Dobie boy and now we're learning and enjoying our black tan girl Dobie. Thanks for sharing your knowledge to many of us.
I adopted my 2nd adult female Doberman about 1.5 years ago! I adopted both from a dobie rescue, at different times! They were both about 5yrs. old when I adopted them! I am in my late 60's and this age is so much easier to manage!❤
I wish I would have known this earlier. I've had 7 American Dobies over 50yrs, having more than one at a time. I didn't ask when I bought my current puppy and he's an Euro. So different from the others.
We had dobermans since i was like 6. All "working" type european ones. All were really cool with kids, even stranger ones. All protection trained but they "knew" when stranger was ok or not. So they didnt mind petting from kids from nearby school when we were going out with him. One was winning awards on contests , but they banned ones with cropped ears later.
Our last one just celebrated 13th birthday yesterday. And all considered exept some age related issues, he can still walk and is happy. ( half of his siblings are alive too, good line i guess).
When i get my own dog, dobie is sure choice. Once you get over puberty. I loved goofy, sometimes acting dumb but they were not, pragmatic dogs. Only thing (cant be mad) couldnt even go to bathroom alone. But you would look at them and seen the love they have.
I would get a black and rust female puppy with pet/show lines. I’ve always wanted a Doberman pincher. I absolutely love them!
I have two red and rust Dobermans. My girl is almost 7 and she is from a show line. Just me and my husband living in the home, but my daughter and grandson live close and are over all the time. Ziva is close to all of us, but I am her person. My male, Tony, will be 5 at the end of the year. His sire is American/ Chilean lines, his dam Chilean. His looks and temperament run right down the European lines, and he is typical male with the love and goofiness for all family members. He loves my 1 yo grandson, but as with my female, I am his person, also. Probably because I do the training and the feeding. Love them bunches! 😊
I love our 2 Euro Dobies, one female blk/rust and the other female red/rust. Our red/rust was given back to the breeder because they mentioned their daughter was allergic to her. I did love that I didn't have to go through the ears stage again but she did have trust issues which extra love and training classes couldn't handle.
Zeke is definitely different from my first Doberman, Ruger was an America and Zeke is Europe Dobermans. I won’t ever get another European Doberman because they are really different than the American Doberman,
My husband and I are looking for Doberman puppies, we live in Georgia. Does anyone have any recommendations on who we can contact !!?
I've had two black and rust males. The first passed away at six years old due to DCM (he was also a newspaper ad puppy / questionable bloodlines). The next one I had was from a fantastic breeder specializing in European Pride of Russia lines. Unfortunately, I had to leave him behind during a divorce. (I did end up fleeing with my Malinois tho). Long story. So, heartbroken, I never thought I'd have another doberman.
Then serendipitously this Spring, the same breeder reached out to me with a red and rust female pup that was the last remaining in that litter. I hadn't talked to her in years.
I couldn't resist. So to recap: two black and rust males and one red and rust female all from European working lines. I also have a German Shepherd and Belgian Malinois. Don't worry, I have a pet vacuum - and big yard. :-) Love your channel.
Black n rust...from a century of registered champions. Zeus cost me 50k. That was a discount, he's worth much much more. He's priceless. Runs 10 miles a day EVERYDAY we start at 4 am. I'd put him against any dog anywhere anytime. Tricks speed agility intelligence protection work. He's unstoppable ❤
Do certain colors of Dobermans have a higher propensity toward particular health conditions?
LOVE, Doberman Pinschers.🥰👏😎☝️🙏☺️❤️
We were going to look at a male American/European doberman puppy this sunday, but I'm thinking female now and definitely black/rust
I would choose American, female, rescue and show. I almost got a Dobie and stopped when I saw an indicator that they might be ready to attack strangers. So I got a Ridgeback. Mistake. This dog is so headstrong, boorish, unintelligent and cares less about pleasing me. Wish I had followed my first instinct when adopting.
That's how it was. My life was absolutely perfect. My Dobie was my soul dog - she was perfect. I miss her so much. Things aren't perfect anymore - very far from it.
In 2015, I adopted my Euro male and American female. My male is not going to last much longer so I decided it is time to get a playmate for my female and to cushion the inevitable blow both of us will face in the next year. I pick up a Euro American mix male tomorrow. I love these dogs.
Such a great and informative video. Thanks, DP! Mine would be the same as yours, except I'd go for an adult instead of a puppy.
But if you’re purchasing them and taking them in at 3-4 months old then how can you possibly know what their personal.. (AHEM 🗣👊🏼)
DOGalnality is going to end up being??
I chose my last one from 5 remaining (him + 4 others) because when they all ran out to pee he
A. Hiked his leg like a Manly Dog (at only 3 months old) instead of squatting like his 2 brothers (and of course 2 sisters)
B. The other 4 immediately ran back in to the comfort of their bedding + cage while HE remained out in the grass exploring, sniffing etc
In hindsight reason B might’ve been a clue that I missed because as an adult he liked to sometimes take off at the drop of a hat and not listen to me telling him to get his ass back here. Fortunately I sought help and learned how to correct that behavior. He was the first Doberman I’d had that did that to the degree that he did it so it was unexpected.
First off i love watching your videos on Dobermans ,I found a great breeder that have American and European Dobermans, my puppy a ( female) mother is a American dobbie the dad is European dobbie I think i got the best of both worlds.
Hybrid European and American, female pup, black and rust
I like a black ack & rust, European working class Dobi male. When I was a teen I had one. He lived to 13 yrs.. He was a great. I am undecided weather I should get a male or female 🤔.
1.5 yr old European red & rust male Baloo, was wedding gift from breeder amazing animal,taught to hunt truffles hahaha welcoming our first child in august his demeanor change has been amazing to watch so protective of momma and the baby in oven.. but so gentle when kisses her via moms belly ❤❤
fantastic!!!!!!!!!...where did you find the breeder?...thx
@@sherrcon I’m located in Southern California so is the breeder, looking to breed him soon just looking for red and rust female, I don’t want to breed back to black and tan he comes from 2 litter lines of only red and rust Dobermans
Quick question: after your video about the american/european mix wich has better life expectancy, would you take it into consideration?
Genetic lines are critical. In Southwest Florida are there any breeds of show dobermans or pet dobermans? Well rounded pet would be my choice. Thank you for the info. Your channel is the best.
Hey John, loved the video, seeing Remy's footage made my day. I can honestly say Remy and Baxter are completely different dogs absolutely. Both with their own unique amazing qualities, although very much align with everything you stated. Here's what I would possibly add to your pick doberman card. How long are you wanting to wait to adopt and how much are you willing to spend? I say this because three weeks ago we almost got a third european black and rust male from the same breeder as Remy because one of their adopters had to back out and wanted to know if I wanted Remys brother. But since these dogs are in such high demand the prices are way up there to adopt especially from a tested bloodline. So we decided to stick with the two.
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Never an American Dobermann for me and white version also never for me because banned from FCI and EU Dobermann version is also a famely dog I can now it because 40 years back I owned two Dobermann Pinchers here in the Netherlands !🤠
Which type of Doberman is better the American line or European Doberman?
I would love to adopt an American black female, a puppy. I would love to do pet therapy with her. ♥️
Hybrid Euro/American male. Looking to train as a service dog. Not sure if the working line or show line is better.
Puppy, American, female, pet line, black and rust.
I currently have my 9th and 10th Dobermans and your descriptions were totally in linenwith my experiences-havebhad a close bond with all of them but have joked that some of my females weren't just velcro dogs-they wanted to live inside my skin 😂-my males were much more tolerant of new puppy when one joined tho all were bonded to the other dog and to me-omly negative for me is they don't have as long a life as i wish but the happiness they brought far outweighed the pain of loss tho not immediately
8:30 There's no way i could pick up my guy like that.
Was he fully grown?
Does the breeder do DNA testing? Does breeder tell you before you buy a puppy? If yes why would you do your own DNA testing after a few months?
I have had both. you cannot go wrong with either. I do have a question however. My European, Jagger is eight years old. I would like to get a puppy. However I would not want to upset him. Is a puppy at his age a good idea, or should i wait?
I had black and brown ,reds blue i have had 2 my uncle bought from Germany and was very happy with both they both bonded to my mom and i never caged ither 1 ove them tey all had free rieng ove home thats what they were bread for protect we never locked our doors my uncle drunk opened he got bit i now own 2 mom passed a red and black no brown but white paws
Irregardless what they say american doberman is miles better than european type
I've been subscribed to this channel for a long time. You need to stop promoting the white doberman as a choice.
Can you recommend a breeder in Southwest Florida? I want a calm female .
Wouldnt the owners of a resque doberman know the genetics?
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Euro/American mix. They tend to last a tad longer.
2 adult working black and one 1 adult pet/show red
Im going to be looking for a replacement service dog and had the same results as you but for different reasons.
This was informative for sure, before this I was looking at European but now realize that may not be a good fit for me
I have been watching almost every video you've made on Dobermans as they are my favorite dog breed have always wanted one. I feel for the most part I have all the same marked except when it comes to color I love all of them so my thing is if I can find a reputable breeder in my area I don't mind any of the colors some of it may factor in cost as some costs less like pure black doberman or rust or Gray those tend to be less amount. Pure Black or melanistic maybe my go to or black and tan if had to choose. Is there any under lining issues health wise with a pure Black doberman?
I have red dobermans male and female.
Ooo fun!! One of each!
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We have a female black and red and we rescued a male blue and red.
I’ve had 2 German pinshures I love them all their awesome both passed due to cancer
I have 4 ( 2 black, 1 red, 1 albino white ) all American 2 male 2 female
Where can I find a pet or show doberman that's not a puppy?
I love black and rust European Doberman
Does this video mean you are getting a second doberman?
anyone looking for a white pup? had one in a litter in tennessee would like to see it go to a cooler less sunny state
American/European Melanated !
You changed your opinion, how come?
where can you find dobies for sale
Great video, John! I think you made a lot of good points to help people choose the right Doberman for their lifestyle. I've had European Dobermans and an American European Hybrid in the past. Currently, I own a 2.5 years old black & rust male European working line Doberman. He is an amazing dog, but only because I put the work in (and still do every day). Very high drive, and he needs his 2-4 hours training and exercise every day. If, for whatever reason, it might be a little less, you immediately know it😅. We are training for IGP titles.
Oh fun! Training for IGP titles is no joke! Kudos to you both - he sounds like an amazing dog!
We have a,European brown & rust. He is, as you have described for the European, not sure, if he's show or working. I would like to a gene test. I think I would go for an American next time, maybe a show line, female.
Go a different route next time to see what the differences are? Not a bad idea!
I had excellent experience with my blk/tan American female pet Dobie. Will definitely get that again. She was good with the entire family, especially the little kids, but was decidedly my girl. I'm hoping to train the new dog as my PTSD service dog, and we have a farm, now, so definitely a puppy to ensure socialization with both people and animals.
Your girl sounds like she was such a great companion! No doubt your new dog will love living on the farm with you!
M also Doberman breeder from India I love to see your videos ❤🥰🥰🤘🤘👍👍
Impartial! Great video as always. Definitely a black/rust female adult, pet/show line.
Thank you, Caroline! Love this positive feedback!
I have a very big 4yr old male purebred hybrid.
I have a female purebred European puppy.
& I have a 1yr old female American that I rescued.
All are black & rust.
Sounds like a great variety, Erik!!
In another of your videos you discussed adult dobermans not adapting/accepting new owners because of strong loyalty. Is this a common difficulty in adopting adult dobermans from rescue groups?
No, Dobermans are very smart. When they are in a kennel for weeks or months on end with no individualized attention, they are typically very thankful to the person who rescues them, plays with them, and spends time with them.
The one with natural ears and tail !
I have a 6 month old female american black and rust. She has uncropped ears. Very strong for a tiny asian like me hahahaha 😂
Hahaha! Too funny!
You don’t read these!
Everything matches yours except I would probably get an adult. This is my second marriage and neither husband has ever wanted a Doby. So it would be my first as well. And I think he would be easier to convince if he could see the personally already there, plus knowing he wouldn't be the one having to deal with the puppy training (piddles). Since I'm the one gone for 12 hours at night then trying to sleep all day.
Sounds like a bad time to add a high drive Velcro dog, sadly. Especially if your hubby doesn't want one, AND will have to care for it the majority of the time.
Ya I know. Plus right now we already have 3 dogs. So I wouldn't even consider it until we are down to not more than one left probably none thou. But I can always dream. Right now we have a mal-heeler mix. And her son is that and half cessie plus a beagle.
listening and watching your videos, makes me want and get a dobe...but, but, but...lol...thanks for the vid...thumbs up all the way!!
The 1st one is better
My first Doberman Katyusha= black&rust, pet line, American/ Euro hybrid female and puppy.
My second Doberman Zastava = red&rust, pet line, 100%Euro also female and puppy. I didn't want 2 black&rust so they are easier to tell apart at a distance.
European, Black & Tan, female.
I'd like to rescue again. I had such a great experience with Kleo, I'd like to do it again while I can.
Thank you for this great video.American show-line male puppy in brown/rust is for my lifestyle the best option ❤
Female puppy black and rust she stands up to poop very funny
Haha! Just picture that....lol, no doubt a sight to see!
This was a great video! We love our Red and Rust doberman. Luckily, we chose the right dog for our family from Doberman of the Triad rescue organization. Our next doberman would be black and rust, European, male, puppy working dog. We are an active family, and enjoy training and working with our dog
Our beautiful girl is an American Doberman mix but I don’t know if she’s working or show as she’s adopted. If you looked at her, you’d never know she wasn’t a full Doberman aside from her size. Though she’s about to turn 2 years old, she looks like a six month old puppy.
Great episode; mush needed. Big fan of your show/channel so... as always, THANK YOU!
Have two Doberman ‘s European as live in the uk. My boy is chocolate and weighs 33kg, very sensitive, tuned into both myself and husband. But when out walking he is very much my protector, as very uncertain when men come along path towards me. Protective. My female is Black and Tan, she is 42kg and a very happy dog, friendly with everyone, but very mischievous.
I would have the same doberman as you, only female! Because of our cats we need a puppy. Our beloved Lady passed four months short of her 12th birthday, a year ago April 29th. So we are now at a stage in our grief where we can move on to our next doberman. Wish us luck! This was an awesome and informative video. Thank you so much!