@@MMID303 Its not that long and its articulated. I have an older TMCC version of this engine and its minimum recommended curve is O-54. Almost all other scale articulated engines require O72 curves. Its part of the reason WM can run it on their curvy line to Frostburg.
I just rode C&O 2-6-6-2 1309 at the Western Maryland Scenic. It truly is an amazing piece of engineering. It's huge and looks so complex. It's amazing these things were built without any modern technology like computers! All blueprints drawn by hand.
Big Beautiful Locomotive! In order to do this steam engine justice you would need 200 foot radius or the boiler swing out will knock over lamps in the next room.
eric when u buy an electric engine and review it here is the classification: 1: Letters refer to powered axles [A - 1, B - 2, C - 3, D - 4, E - 5, and so on] 2: A + sign indicates an articulated electric engine 3: numbers refer to non-powered axles [also a jackshaft is a non-powered axle]
I would assume that the volume wheel on the tender can only work if you adjust the volume while it's off, considering the other switches(like the smoke units) can only work if the engine is off to comprehend the position of the switches to act on that command. Am I right?
As stated in the review, the retail price of these is $1300, although most dealers will discount off that retail price. You should be able to get it for around $1200.
Great new engine and review as always! I think the whistle smoke is better because they are making these.newer engines with larger holes for the smoke to flow through. I agree that lionels sounds have kinda gone generic but running them is second to none. does the small door on the front of the boiler open?
They've made trains with moving parts like bells. Their just really expensive, so they've only done it a few times. Check out my review of the Lionel Vision Line 700E Hudson.
On the N&W, the 2-6-6-2 was known as the Z Class and numbered in the 1400 series and on the C&O they were called the H6 Class. The N&W Z's were replaced by the A 2-6-6-4's in 1936 and 1937 (Z Class 2-6-6-2's were all retired by 1957). C&O built the H7 2-8-8-2's and the H8 2-6-6-6 "Alleghenies" after the H6 2-6-6-2's. 2-6-6-2's were mainly used for local trains. 2-6-6-4's and 2-8-8-2's did both general freight, fast freight, and coal drags but the 2-6-6-6's only did coal drags. Also the 2-6-6-4's owned by the N&W did adapt really well to troop trains during WW2 with speeds up to 70mph.
Bachmann Industries, MTH and many others have ventured outside North American Railroading. Example, MTH French 241 A, Bachmann HO British Flying Scotsman.
Hi Eric I was wondering if you know were I could get some o scale seats for inside passenger cars Because i would really like to take those stupid silhouettes out the windows and put real figures and seats in them. If you know PLEASE LET ME KNOW! Thanks.
I saw one on sale for $545. It was a 2004 C&O TMCC version. Looked exactly like this one. It was beautiful, and in my opinion, sounded better, whistle wise.
@ERIC's TRAINS - "MALLET," I thought it was MALLET (English), but it sounds FRENCH but it was made by a SWISS guy. Talk about CONFUSION. LOL! Was this train, "MALLET" as strong as the 2-6-6-6 ALLEGHENY?
AWESOME review Eric and a couple SWEET engines!!!!! Love the new BFIMO segment and agree with you 100% that the "steam whistle effect" on these engines is absolutely OUTSTANDING!!! Hopefully, once I get my new roof and other home renovations paid for there will still be some of these bad boys still out there for sale. Thanks again for the awesome review bro and have a great one!
Hey Eric, GREAT review as always! Just ordered the C&O USRA version, it should arrive tuesday 1/22/13. Got it on sale $750.00, can't beat that price LOL Thanks for the vid bro and have a great one!
4/2/2018 today by 67 birthday was at a used bookstore. They had this unit in a glass case displayed. Spoke with the individual who purchased it..They were asking $350.00..sold it to me with box..$300.00 Mesa AZ examined the unit & looked in mint condition; nothing broken..nice and clean; even the undercarriage..plan to take it to a model train store to have him check it out. Used bookstore told me if any problems can return it to them for full refund..& yes I did print $300.00 is what paid plus two ling pair of straight track.
Great review as always Eric! I really like the Mallet steam engines a lot! I agree about the sounds going a little generic, but they are so much fun to run! Keep the videos coming my friend!
Great review! I may have asked you this before but could you show the engines running through curves? Especially steam engines. Seeing a big articulated go through a curve is so much different then just running down a straight of way. Thanks, Will
Foxy the Kawaii Fox: I agree, I wish Lionel Legacy and Lionel VisionLine had engines that had whistles and horns competitive with the TMCC Whistles and Horns.
Mr. Siegel, I am thinking about buying one of these for my railroad model, but to me, the LEGACY control system seems a little complicated! Could you please do a video on who to work THIS particular engine!? I would really appreciate at! Also, I am thinking about moving my railroad system into my garage. Would that be a good idea? Do I need to buy smoke fluid for this engine, or does it come with the engine? Thanks and I appreciate all of your videos! ~ Super4x4rider
while these trains look and sound amazing, I'm disappointed that Lionel range does not cover QR, VR or NSWR trains. I'd like to have trains running on a layout that are based on trains where I live. I guess Australia railroad model trains will be kept to just scratch built sector of the hobby.
I've never heard of one that was successful, though I'm sure at some point somewhere in the world somebody experimented with it. There is a 2-6-6-6 however.
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BFIMO to me is the whistle, both the sound and the smoke effect.
Now that the #1309 is operating at the WMSR, Lionel could use this opportunity to rerelease this model with the WMSR and other paint schemes.
I'm praying for a LionMaster version. Can't run super long engines on my O54 curves.
@@MMID303 Its not that long and its articulated. I have an older TMCC version of this engine and its minimum recommended curve is O-54. Almost all other scale articulated engines require O72 curves. Its part of the reason WM can run it on their curvy line to Frostburg.
I just rode C&O 2-6-6-2 1309 at the Western Maryland Scenic. It truly is an amazing piece of engineering. It's huge and looks so complex. It's amazing these things were built without any modern technology like computers! All blueprints drawn by hand.
Fun fact about 1309: It's the last steam locomotive built by Baldwin Locomotive Works.
BFIMO: Air Compressor detail on the front of the smokebox.
WMSR is getting the C&O Mallet #1309 from the B&O museum to get restored to operation. Pretty cool!
@Nathaniel Cruz 1309 is fully operational and it’s really exciting
Big Beautiful Locomotive! In order to do this steam engine justice you would need 200 foot radius or the boiler swing out will knock over lamps in the next room.
Thanks
@@Ericstrains im glad that C&O 1309 is back in operation.
eric when u buy an electric engine and review it here is the classification:
1: Letters refer to powered axles [A - 1, B - 2, C - 3, D - 4, E - 5, and so on]
2: A + sign indicates an articulated electric engine
3: numbers refer to non-powered axles [also a jackshaft is a non-powered axle]
did anybody notice that new scenery when he blew the whistle the first time?
If you want a mallet just go buy one from your local hardware store and write the roadname and number you want on the side! :)
I would assume that the volume wheel on the tender can only work if you adjust the volume while it's off, considering the other switches(like the smoke units) can only work if the engine is off to comprehend the position of the switches to act on that command. Am I right?
not only is this Mallet classified as a 2-6-6-2, if you look at it at how many powered axles there are; than that makes it 1-B-B-1 or 1-B+B-1
Sounds like in the video the smoke units fan is whinning. But otherwise a very impressive engine
You should send this video to the Western Maryland Scenic. They might like it.
The WMSR is restoring a C&O Mallet, numbered 1309.
I’ve been there
This aged really well
@@Trainmaster909 technically, it did age well because 1309 is fully restored
@@That_Thicc_Cat that’s what I said
Yeah, I had the NKP originally but I swapped it for C&O's.
As stated in the review, the retail price of these is $1300, although most dealers will discount off that retail price. You should be able to get it for around $1200.
Hey! That road number is kinda the same one on the Frisco
Great Video! Straight to the point, and I learned quite the bit about mallets!
I know it's pronounced "mallay", but let's face it, Mallet is a very appropriate name for these steam giants!
Great new engine and review as always! I think the whistle smoke is better because they are making these.newer engines with larger holes for the smoke to flow through. I agree that lionels sounds have kinda gone generic but running them is second to none. does the small door on the front of the boiler open?
Great review Eric! Those things smoking whistles look great! Thanks for sharing!
They've made trains with moving parts like bells. Their just really expensive, so they've only done it a few times. Check out my review of the Lionel Vision Line 700E Hudson.
On the N&W, the 2-6-6-2 was known as the Z Class and numbered in the 1400 series and on the C&O they were called the H6 Class. The N&W Z's were replaced by the A 2-6-6-4's in 1936 and 1937 (Z Class 2-6-6-2's were all retired by 1957). C&O built the H7 2-8-8-2's and the H8 2-6-6-6 "Alleghenies" after the H6 2-6-6-2's.
2-6-6-2's were mainly used for local trains. 2-6-6-4's and 2-8-8-2's did both general freight, fast freight, and coal drags but the 2-6-6-6's only did coal drags. Also the 2-6-6-4's owned by the N&W did adapt really well to troop trains during WW2 with speeds up to 70mph.
SteamKing2160 silly that they didn’t have the 4-6-6-6 doing fast freight/troop trains
Those are in the new catalog, but they haven't shipped yet as far as I know.
7:00 there was a bug on the front of he engine
why does Lionel always use a fake coupler on the front of steam engines???
Bachmann Industries, MTH and many others have ventured outside North American Railroading. Example, MTH French 241 A, Bachmann HO British Flying Scotsman.
And now 1309 is alive again!
Awesome! Nice review Eric. Wow, double headed Mallets! You could probably pull the tunnel portals off the mountain with that combination ....
Sure, no problem. I'll do that on the next review.
Well, you don't have long to wait since they'll be shipped next month.
I used to pronounce it mallet too, seems it's not just Americans but Brits (AKA me) too
could someone on youtube please do a review on the lionel whistle steam polar express?
Hi Eric I was wondering if you know were I could get some o scale seats for inside passenger cars Because i would really like to take those stupid silhouettes out the windows and put real figures and seats in them. If you know PLEASE LET ME KNOW! Thanks.
You should get a Lionel Union Pacific 4-12-2, specifically #9000. They have the whistle steam effect as well.
I saw one on sale for $545. It was a 2004 C&O TMCC version. Looked exactly like this one. It was beautiful, and in my opinion, sounded better, whistle wise.
Love your vids Eric they motivate me to keep buying more trains lol
Wow, beautiful engine
I didn’t know until a few minutes ago that the first Vision Line locomotive was a 2-6-6-2.
Great job Eric ! Love the two engine's together...thanks for sharing...
Great locomotive Eric!
Mallet, like a sledgehammer ( I’m also American ). Enjoyed your review.
@ERIC's TRAINS - "MALLET," I thought it was MALLET (English), but it sounds FRENCH but it was made by a SWISS guy. Talk about CONFUSION. LOL!
Was this train, "MALLET" as strong as the 2-6-6-6 ALLEGHENY?
AWESOME review Eric and a couple SWEET engines!!!!! Love the new BFIMO segment and agree with you 100% that the "steam whistle effect" on these engines is absolutely OUTSTANDING!!! Hopefully, once I get my new roof and other home renovations paid for there will still be some of these bad boys still out there for sale. Thanks again for the awesome review bro and have a great one!
Yes, they are.
Any thoughts of converting this to a 1309 WMSR? Cool vid, info and engine. 😎👍
No lol
Great review Eric! Those engines look fantastic! Thanks for sharing!
Do you know if any one else is in other scales like N or HO
Hey I saw the Acela is back on Lionel's roster, are you going to get the set and the add on cars
Nice review once again Eric!
Hey Eric, GREAT review as always! Just ordered the C&O USRA version, it should arrive tuesday 1/22/13. Got it on sale $750.00, can't beat that price LOL Thanks for the vid bro and have a great one!
Great looking engine there, Eric! Love those Mallets!
4/2/2018 today by 67 birthday was at a used bookstore. They had this unit in a glass case displayed.
Spoke with the individual who purchased it..They were asking $350.00..sold it to me with box..$300.00
Mesa AZ
examined the unit & looked in mint condition; nothing broken..nice and clean; even the undercarriage..plan to take it to a model train store to have him check it out.
Used bookstore told me if any problems can return it to them for full refund..& yes I did print $300.00 is what paid plus two ling pair of straight track.
do you know if lionel or mth are going to be making the real norfolk southern heritage units
Great review as always Eric! I really like the Mallet steam engines a lot! I agree about the sounds going a little generic, but they are so much fun to run! Keep the videos coming my friend!
Thanks!
Great review! I may have asked you this before but could you show the engines running through curves? Especially steam engines. Seeing a big articulated go through a curve is so much different then just running down a straight of way.
Thanks,
Will
N&W had 2-6-6-2 Mallets known as the Z class 1400s type
Foxy the Kawaii Fox: I agree, I wish Lionel Legacy and Lionel VisionLine had engines that had whistles and horns competitive with the TMCC Whistles and Horns.
Sure, when I get one.
Great video! Question, who makes the great looking Chessie hopper ?
Are you sponsored by legacy station if so do you get free trains??
french guy but thats okay. i like this train
Mr. Siegel,
I am thinking about buying one of these for my railroad model, but to me, the LEGACY control system seems a little complicated! Could you please do a video on who to work THIS particular engine!? I would really appreciate at! Also, I am thinking about moving my railroad system into my garage. Would that be a good idea? Do I need to buy smoke fluid for this engine, or does it come with the engine? Thanks and I appreciate all of your videos!
~ Super4x4rider
The inventor was French. Also this is a nice engine!
Even though it doesn't seem like it, do you have plans to get another C&O steamer?
@esiegel76 Oh, okay, but are ya planning on ordering one? It'd be a great engine to do a review on.
Always called em mallets mainly because they feel from the sounds locos like them make like a hammer hitting the ground so ya
looks nice and a great reviw as normal
what class?
How much was this bad boy?
nice review and engine
I still call them mallets on camera, but if I had called it a mallet on camera I'd never hear the end of it. :)
Im wondering if you had try using some of these new lionel legacy trains with the MTH DSC system because i know that works with the TMCC
Lionel has more 2-6-6-2. In the lionel 2018 catalog. They are more road they are in CO WLE BRP GN MC NYC SP WM
mr bowling 21 Correct me if I’m wrong, but to my knowledge, the NYC never had any 2-6-6-2’s, let alone any articulated locos...
@@JerryDoesThings_1604 the new York Central had a total of 51 2-6-6-2s, but they were very rare and not much is hnow about there sevice in the NYC.
awesome video! every review I watch however there is a massive overkill on the whistle...
while these trains look and sound amazing, I'm disappointed that Lionel range does not cover QR, VR or NSWR trains. I'd like to have trains running on a layout that are based on trains where I live. I guess Australia railroad model trains will be kept to just scratch built sector of the hobby.
Is there a 6-6-6-6-?
I've never heard of one that was successful, though I'm sure at some point somewhere in the world somebody experimented with it. There is a 2-6-6-6 however.
Nice video Eric
can you do a review on the c&o 2-6-6-6 Allegheny?
It'd be nice if they did but Lionel rarely, if ever, ventures outside of the North American railroading.
ericstrains I have a question do you have any Burlington route engines or cars
Do you think the 2-6-6-2 re runs use the exact same tooling as the old ones and the new ones are more just new skins for the locomotive?
These were going for $700 at one point.
Does it run on steam?
Uhhh no
you got the use of steam backwards...
6:23 for a second I thought it said Cheesecake and Oreo
B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L !
Do you know what's a GN Z-6
I may get the us malettt
Is it available as #1309?
he was french
I found one on sale for 750 dollars
Wow!! Awesome engine! Great review as usual. Not crazy about the stupid American comment. :(
french,not swiss.
well yea but he was born in Lancy, Switzerland but he died in Paris, France.
I am an American, dumb or not, so I'll call it a mallet, as in hammer away.
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Lol