What is The Fourth Way?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this episode I speak about the Fourth Way. It is a commentary on a passage from In Search of the Miraculous (p.44-51). It contrasts the Fourth Way first to Three other ways; that of the fakir, the monk and the yogi and then goes on to speak about the importance of the Fourth Way.
If you would like to read the whole passage in its entirety, then you can find it here: • What is The Fourth Way?
#FourthWay #Ouspesnky #Gurdjieff
Currently i am reading the fourth way, great book most of emphasis is on developing consciousness, and finding out hidden traits of our personality. Also finished in search of miraculous contains brief discussion about gurdjieff teachings. Thanks to Osho because of him i was introduced to gurdjieff and ouspensky. I would suggest to listen to osho you will definitely learn many thing from osho.
"Only awaken knows who is awake is asleep "- osho
I have read a few of Oshos books and he writes very well. The Fourth Way is a magical book with a giant amount of information. Gurdjieffs teachings have impacted my life profoundly. They are very powerful. I hope you benefit from your studies 🙏
This is excellent, thank you. However, I have studied Gurdjieff’s works extensively, and I have realized by my own experience that without guidance, a teacher to help us examine where we are, is impossible to change one’s character. We are all stuck in one of the centers that you speak about, the fakir, the monk, and the yogi, and it is impossible to willfully incorporate all three. Just watching your videos is entertaining but does not change a thing. When the student is ready the teacher appears.
You have to understand, that this system is in fact pre-work,it is a path that leads to fourth way, and not fourth way itself. As both ouspensky and gurdgief said, the fourth way begins from a level much higher than ordinary life. The man, has to study a lot and make a lot of efforts in order to wake up. The real fourth way starts with man number 4. The level of such a man is totally different from men 1,2,and 3 and is always a result of conscious inner work. Nobody is born with that level and the circumstances of life never can give such a level to anyone. The evolution of man is a whole life process. The knowledge available in the system is superb...
Well said 🙏
Great Story! It shows what a brilliant master Gurdjieff was.
Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
Thank you for this introduction Lewis. It made me want to dig deeper into this topic 👍
Glad it was helpful! It’s such a deep teaching. Feel free to share any questions that you might have moving forward, and I’ll do my best to answer them. 😀🙏
@@bookclub5291 Will do! Thanks 😊
@@DUST35read the freaking book, don't RUclips it 😅
This is excellent, thank you. However, I have studied Gurdjieff’s works extensively, and I have realized by my own experience that without guidance, a teacher to help us examine where we are, is impossible to change one’s character. We are all stuck in one of the centers that you speak about, the fakir, the monk, and the yogi, and it is impossible to willfully incorporate all three. Just watching your videos is entertaining but does not change a thing. When the student is ready the teacher appears.
This is excellent, thank you. However, I have studied Gurdjieff’s works extensively, and I have realized by my own experience that without guidance, a teacher to help us examine where we are, is impossible to change one’s character. We are all stuck in one of the centers that you speak about, the fakir, the monk, and the yogi, and it is impossible to willfully incorporate all three. Just watching your videos is entertaining but does not change a thing. When the student is ready the teacher appears.
I think that’s a fair point you are making. As in anything one is learning, someone to guide and assist who is further along the road than yourself is most helpful. Sadly regarding the Gurdjieff work, I seem to find that in the books. 🙏
@@bookclub5291 Sadly? Spiritual growth is a dynamic process. Intuition and reason are required. We all must face our egoistic nature and overcome complacency and the resistance to change oneself. Love and happiness must be earned with great efforts. Hope, prayers, and meditation will not help us get to the promise land.
When the Heart aspires, the Mind inquires and the Will conspires (combines).
Mind = Inspiration
Heart = Aspiration
Will = Volition
Self-remembering = Being aware of being aware.
I like it 🙏
@@bookclub5291 💝
This is excellent, thank you. However, I have studied Gurdjieff’s works extensively, and I have realized by my own experience that without guidance, a teacher to help us examine where we are, is impossible to change one’s character. We are all stuck in one of the centers that you speak about, the fakir, the monk, and the yogi, and it is impossible to willfully incorporate all three. Just watching your videos is entertaining but does not change a thing. When the student is ready the teacher appears.
When the teacher is ready the pupil appears. A teacher is as indispensable to a pupil as a pupil is to the teacher. Without each other neither can progress
We develop in the searching not in the found.
@@grahamfortune1528 Searching is the first step, however, something must be found. What is found is the power of understanding the laws that influence human nature and the source of the law or God. The mind must be developed through its knowledge and understanding, then it's possible to truly become a "Master of Oneself.
Very good, thanks.
You’re welcome. Glad you found it of value 🙏
you put a lot of effort in your presentation , a lot of time spent to present and explain the material.
something you said about the rooms, caught my attention, were in the book can this be found and what are you able to relate on this subject .
You mean about living in only one room, and not having access to the other rooms? I will find out and reply when I have time later. Maybe I could do a video about it… 😀👍
thank you so much, your work is great.
You are most welcome. Glad that you find it of value 🙏
Eckhart’s “the power of now” leads to the other shore..
Everything in the fourth way is the now you come to via Eckhart’s now.
You’re welcome 😇
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Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for this
You are welcome 🙏
Can you share a link for the discort group please?❤
Yes of course. Here it is:
discord.gg/chbhENCf
From where can I learn and practise the "Fourth Way"?
I would start by listening to this book. It will give you a great introduction to the practices and ideas.
ruclips.net/p/PL0L0onrHik1vkLmBSVQ8fttdSqk2wynO9&si=-R-xZ3JygQq-r8x_
Hey
First take your glasses off, they do no good to you.
He probably wears glasses because he needs them. This information is powerful. His manner contains no vanity.
@@SusanTroccolowriter nobody needs glasses. What they need is practicing the eye. I just wanted to help