Professor Carl Trueman | Hedonism and the Modern Psychological Self
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- In this Direct interview, John is joined by Professor Carl Trueman, author of The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self. They discuss the modern self in an age of culture wars, including the societal shift of the perception of happiness and gratification, the technological revolution, and the sexual revolution and its ties to authoritarianism.
Carl Trueman is a professor of biblical and religious studies at Grove City College in Grove City, Pennsylvania. He has written more than a dozen books, including Histories and Fallacies: Problems Faced in the Writing of History, Luther on the Christian Life, The Creedal Imperative, and The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution.
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00:00 Intro
00:16 Introducing Professor Carl Trueman
1:00 How does history give us a unique understanding of where we currently are as a society?
3:41 How do today's trends have similarities to the Reformation?
6:42 Abolition of the private sphere in the technological revolution
8:38 What is the modern self?
11:08 The morality of capitalism and the right to be happy
12:43 The old and new atheism
14:36 The danger of great ideas and fascism
16:35 What is anticulture?
25:00 Social Darwinism
26:18 Cultural Marxism and the sexual revolution
30:42 How is modern society Freudian?
33:29 Gratification and discipline in the modern age
35:42 Victimhood and the modern dissatisfaction phenomenon
37:16 The transgenderism movement and authoritarianism
41:21 The ideological affirmation model
47:00 Freedom of speech is under attack
52:50 Cancel culture led by the elites
54:20 What can we do as individuals amid a divided society?
58:50 How can Christianity shed light on our culture for a return to decent humanity?
1:03:30 Are things going well for progressives?
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The "right" to happiness vs. the right to *pursue* happiness is an excellent point, well worth thinking about. The pursuit is more important than is generally assumed today. 👍
Thank you both for this delightful and reflective discussion on the pain we are all experiencing, one way and another. Deeply grateful for both of your amazing insights and for your thoughts on how we potential should proceed forward.
Happiness is transient; self-fulfilment and 'satisfaction' (with Career, relationships personal and with a wider society) is more complex, elusive but more rewarding.
Happiness to me comes from within. One’s character. I think the more individual integrity one has nothing to be ashamed of. No monkeys on one’s back to weigh down. External happiness is all a temporary present state. Delayed gratification comes from self disciplinary behaviors. I want this, have to do that before one can obtain it.
Carl Trueman's way of speaking is poetry to me, so erudite and well measured, I could listen all day.
History is so vital in decerning
Whats going on in the world. I wish more institutions of learning taught our children history.
What a fantastic, insightful and balanced interview. God bless.
If you haven't read it, the book is superb; elucidates the postmodern, decadent malaise we are living through in stark detail.
Another book in this strain is 'Love Thy Body' by professor Nancy Pearcey.
@@thomasbassett4905 Thanks for the recommendation.
Started reading it today. It is among the best things I have ever read.
@@theohuioiesin6519 That is awesome. It's such a great book. I'm currently reading The Psychology of Totalitarianism by Mattius Desmet. Highly recommend! 🍻
Do you agree with his statement that Nietzsche's ideas and the will to power were very damaging to Western society? I think the opposite is true. Nietzsche hated nihilism. Thats what he was battling against. He affirmed life and told people to embrace their natural inner drives impulses and desires rather than running away from them. He said life is often a struggle but that we can find meaning and purpose in rhe struggle thereby justifying human suffering and redeeming ourselves.
Excellent interview. The author is very successful illuminating very complex cultural trends impacting the whole of western societies. His insights toward the latter part of the interview are both encouraging and to some degree mournful at the same time; but I think more optimistic, hopeful, and comforting. Thanks for putting a spotlight on this well spoken messenger of hope in a world in need of encouragement.
Hello there, hope you do like my aspirations?
Professor Trueman says be civil and make a difference on the local level. I agree. Be strong and use your best judgement. We can win.
"The truth of Christianity"
One of the most revealing things said.
Puts all the rest in context.
Thanks John, I’m exceptionally grateful for your podcasts. I learn so much from listening to each of your interviews. Some of the topics can feel like very ‘deep water’ at the time of listening, but I take notes as I go to help me reflect upon the content later. I’m also greatly encouraged because I know that these podcasts are contributing to my overall education in matters that I would sometimes find much too complex to think upon. Overall it’s very brain expanding material, so thank you for helping me grow!
I bought Professor Trueman's book. What a great and important work. YOU MUST READ AND LEARN THESE IDEAS TO DIAGNOSE AND UNDERSTAND THE WAY FORWARD IN POST-MODERNITY.
Much more important than happiness is having a sense of meaning in life.
A sense of meaning in life does create happiness.
@@shirleyhyland4308 Happiness is an incidental byproduct of leading a meaningful life.
Genius, brave these days to voice these ideas. Like many I suspect, these themes have floated half baked in my head as one observes the nonsense one sees over the years in this American society. A cure? None, unfortunately. I stay away from as much of contemporary culture as possible. Live a quiet life in my 70's. My time is short. The poor teenagers will have to live a very confused conflicted life unless somehow they can throw off these contemporary delusions.
Absolutely. Their expectation will assuredly guarantee disappointment with everything.
Reach out to them. Pass on what you know. Boy scout troop? Church youth group?
Excellent and brilliant opening and all the rest of it! Absolutely so spot on. I'm 72 and have little but a lot too. Never a rebel, and often at odds with youth of 'my day'. I think 'identity' is within! It's a spiritual and Consciousness job to do not a political one.
One of the best discussion on the modern outlook and philosophy I have heard in a very long time. Excellent, thank you.
“Behave with moderation and politeness and behave as civilised as we can”- Carl Trueman. This is very hard for most people when they are presented with an idea that conflicts with their beliefs. It’s too difficult for most people to muster the emotional intelligence to listen and process, and potentially adjust their view. Ideally most people choose to read a wide range of books (like the book discussed in this video). The number of people willing to do that is vanishingly small. With an ill informed electorate, the people’s chosen representatives can only reflect their level of education.
Well said.
I think that Kant and Hegel's influence cannot be overlooked. Great conversation.
Thank you - an enlightened and deeply thoughtful conversation - rich in historical truth and beautifully erudite
After watching this interview I decided to purchase Carl's most recent book and honestly it's one of the best books I ever read, his analysis is incredibly interesting and thankfully the book is very well written
A great seminar to say the least. Concerning to hear we may be past a tipping point and we may well have entered a long period of social strife in the western world. Without unity of purpose and belief in a society built on democratic principles of liberty we become weakened to external forces the likes of fundamental Islam and the CCP. I am very concerned over the future of our Western civilization. The Five Eyes and other Western leaning nations must stand shoulder to shoulder on threats both internal and external. Kind regards from Canada. 🇨🇦
This book reminds me a little of "the Closing of the American Mind." In that book, the problem was traced back to the American Revolution. Once genie of freedom was let out of the bottle, there was no way to put it back.
Definitely the most informative summary of events. Thank you both.
Great interview as always!
Yet another thoughtful and interesting discussion.
Excellent interview!
Happiness is like a setting. Some people are more happy than others despite conditions. Some get more happy with more adversity. Happiness is not something to judge life by imo.
Excellent, and another book to add to my buy list.
In the fairly recent past many Western societies were run by men of the caliber these two exhibit. The fact that this is largely not the case anymore is one of the greatest reasons for modern Western societal decay.
more great work Mr Anderson .
Due to the current misfunction Governments , the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice!
Excellent discussion gentlemen Thank you.
Great interview. Looking forward to reading this book.
Very, very interesting interview.
This is very interesting to me as I have (literally) been wondering if I am like a mid-16th Century Catholic trying to make sense of Lutherans and Calvinists
Excellent!thank you
I would love to listen to more fascinating conversations like this one but without the table banging. Thank you.
Thank you!
Thank you.
Excellent book.
I wish some of these people running this country would listen to these men
Mr. Anderson's conversations are brilliant, a model of logical and ordered thought. Just a point, someone on his staff should tell him that the mic picks up his banging on the table when he wants to emphasize his point. There was an awful lot of it in this interview, otherwise an excellent, thought-provoking video. Perhaps the mic was on the table, in which case a mic stand would help.
Very good on transgeder issue.
I've now started reading the book. A fine work, but the only observation I'd make of a negative tone is that it relies rather too much on springing from Taylor, rather than a wider discussion of sociological analysis from different perspectives.
Darwin chronicled visiting a friend (whose name I forget now) in South Africa which effected his thoughts on his theory of evolution.
Please pad the table with something soft to mute the pounding, or get rid of the table altogether (better still).
fantastic interview. A very important contribution - the roots of our problems go back much further than frustrated post war french marxists and the long march of the institutions. I had not appreciated the threads.
Connecting with other people human to human may break the ideological spell that many are under.
Humility is good - but it sounded like John's comments at the end (about political channels) was perhaps a dig at the ACL - there is a role for political channels, as without that, even if the culture was predominantly Christian, they would have no influence on it at a political level, and as much as local action is important, we can see that political actions and policies profoundly influence what happens on the local level eg: what is taught in schools.
If we use Christ as the example - He acted on the local level, but was quite happy to point out the flaws of the political power of the time - the Pharisees.
can John be the president of the USA if he's not going to run for prime minister in AU?
I have yet to hear a debate anywhere about some of the fundamental psychological elements of our species that could be driving the directions we humans have taken throughout most of our history and that lead us to today? For example: the human ego, selfishness & greed may well have had beneficial effects for us in the very early times of
hunter gathering, all 3 acting as facets of self protection. However, once we settled and produced towns, cities and national boundaries etc the blueprint of life until this day
became peoples largely controlled by individuals and/or families which set up the standards of life we still see today....the multitude controlled and kept poor relative to the those atop the wealth & power social pyramids. With this in place, greed & selfishness
became the standard driving forces of all societies right up to today!
So, is our problem innate in our species?
Absolutely loved this interview, but as a headphones user, Anderson's emphatic banging on the table was a little too much to deal with in my eardrum!
Morality is an interesting one. Every individual has their own unique and nuanced perception of what is moral, and this can be changed over time. Even whole societies are susceptible to change. Makes the concept of karma even more complex and questionable.
Tip for the host. When reviewing a book, face the cover to the camera so the viewers can see it and know what to look for.
The author and name of book is in the heading.
The right to pursue happiness where thought is driven from. PlymouthUK
It's a very good and thoughtful book. Truman misses the origin of individualism and "my truth" is also caused by Protestantism. Protestantism leads to atheism as it deteriorates into private truth based on private interpretation that leads to an idea that my truth is something I create.
“I’m a rat terrier trapped in a human body.” Now I want affirmation for my trans-species feelings ;)
Hahaha……. Makes as much sense, and not nearly as offensive as seeing a man trying to nurse a baby! Where’s CPS?
Being arrested for a facebook post, police (in masks)shutting down dissent/demonstrations with unwarranted vigor at the 'orders' of government, now soldiers (in masks) patrolling the streets of suburbs, closed state borders, unable to travel outside of Australia (unless you are a politician) ....... this is no longer Australia, it is a gulag and I fear my grandchildren will have to fight to get the basic freedoms my generation took for granted and the generation before me fought and died for.
Read " The Satyricon " by Suetonius abd read Petronius about corruption in decadent Rome
Just a technical niggle: the mike that picks up Anderson's thumping on his desk... let's hope it's avoidable :-)
We are discussing the greatest threat that our society has faced since world war 2 .
@@merlingeikie : ... and you actually thought I was concerned about the practical feasibility of eliminating the thumping sound ... God bless, must be a struggle to be that simple.
@@stewatparkpark2933 : You're not discussing anything, you're just being a pompous arse.
My children need to be taught God’s plan for their sense of “self.” I do not think the church has had an adequate response to this.
Agreed! That makes them easy picking for the secular humanists.
I took my 3rd ex huaband's name. Sorry about that. My name is Nelson, 5th great grand daughter of Thomas Nelson Jr. signer of the Declaration of Independence. I also pledge my life, my treasure, and my sacred honor to liberty. Bless all who know our self evident truths, where ever ye may roam.
You must love liberty if you ran away from 3 marriages
I would contest Prof Trueman’s point about Charles Darwin …. Darwin never postulated that natural selection was completely random in humans; he has a whole book on sexual selection. The theory of evolution is actually, in my opinion, the strongest case for the existence of the metaphysical (“God”) as we have sensed the presence of something “divine” in each other (women in men mainly as women do the selecting) and selected for that…. The men that most reflect the moral / ethical framework which is another fancy way of saying “God” (which is not arbitrary as it has been purposefully selected for) are the most successful (both personally in society and hence reproductively). It’s Darwin’s theory that has led me to ultimately believe there is “a God”
There is nothing divine in humanity except a capacity to relate to God...which is only done on His terms. Those who reject his terms, and try to create their own terms, are opposed to God and are spiritually dead, they will never know God.
Did Nietzsche "replace" human nature with a will to power? Trueman just got through saying that Nietzsche view of human nature was more accurate than Richard Dawkins'.
For I am not ashamed of the gospel; it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who has faith , to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteous will live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and wickedness of those who by their wickedness suppress the truth. ( Romans 1.16,17,18 ).
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great and inspiring conversation
Just one thing:it’s better if John doesn’t spank the table 😅
human being are a conservative creature. The only way to be happy is to find a meaningful life.
The Catholic Church calls that thing in which we sense right and wrong, natural law. Justice Clarence Thomas may be one of the few judges in America who openly adheres to this.
I have heard people argue there should be one morality -- not two: one for private and public. However, we might think that alcohol is evil for ourselves and our family. Trying to enforce that nationwide would cause too much chaos without enough benefit. On the other hand, when it comes to human life, it is wrong to ask one individual to die for our benefit. So, military service should be voluntary.
@@johnstewart7025 I think there are some morals that we should think are universal. I'm thinking Mosaic law: thou shalt not kill, steal, lie. Prohibition in the 1930s was a disaster and in fact promoted more crime and murder and civic corruption. I'm Catholic, we're just fine with beer and wine. But I was raised in part as a Southern Baptist and am essentially an involuntary teetotaler. Military is a tough one. It is voluntary in America since the 1970s. Prior to World War II, there was no draft I believe although we had already had two wars involving massive deaths -- the Civil War and World War One (my grandfather's war). World War II brought the draft (my father's war) and so it continued during Korea, and Vietnam. I "won" the lottery during Vietnam era. I had a high lottery number. That seguewayed into the all volunteer service. Most Americans are unaware, but war is raging across the planet and we have a "presence" in scores of countries. What has been solved? Not much it seems. Afghanistan is ending as Vietnam ended for America. After we left, Vietnam and China had a war (at least a million died). If you watch old movies and TV shows, military life is often portrayed as something Americans chafe under. War may be natural to the race, but military service isn't. Perhaps that has diminished the body count by something. I'm rambling. Sorry. This country has spent trillions with not much to show for it. I believe we need a strong deterrent. I wonder if the rest of the world is aware of how weary the public here is of carrying that burden. The previous president tapped into that growing mood. He did not create it. The elites who support these interventions are rarely those who have served or whose children will serve. In the Civil War, the upper classes literally bought their sons out of uniform. Irish immigrants and poor whites provided the body count.
In the East one must perceive and efface the ego.
In the West one must analyse and strengthen the ego in the right way.
We have given away analysis and neglected thd training of the ego
Anti-culture is a good term. Cultural institutions undercut: unions, traditional family, elderly, fathers, mothers, churches, traditional art, classical music
The last 10 minutes are critical. God’s people must lead in love to heal the world.
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Ask someone today if they are saved and
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tl;dr: Collectivism is not the solution for collectivism. Christianity's business model is dependence and therefore not individualism.
I agree that people have moved to these messed up new ideas because they lost faith in Christianity. The fundamental problem however is not Christianity being abandoned. It's spiritual dependence.
You place a strong correlation between individualism and Christianty. Likely because Christianty is the historical vechicle of individualism. But whats individualistic about someone who outsources their faith, knowledge and spirit to a church, institution or idealogy. People DEPEND on those things and therefore are not individuals. In that regard, Christiantiy is a form of collectivism, not individualism.
When collectivists recognize something foul or immoral in their group, they will look for a "more moral" group to be a part of. The foundation of this problem is lack of individualism that didn't even exist when they were Christians. So people turning back to Christianity is not the solution. Because any form of individualism recognized by its followers comes from personal interpretation.
The only context I can agree with you on the Christianity solution; is to submit to the idea than not all humans are capable of being individuals. Therefore they should be sheparded into a harmless and as traditional as collective as possible (ie Christianity). Which is how I regard your arguement. Still, noone should be suprized this happened.
We live in a country where every law and policy the government puts out incentivizes spiritual, physical and economic dependence. A country that once had strong Christian values, which also incentivizes dependance.
I just don't see how its possible for a Government or Church to incentivize independance (individualism) when dependence is their business model.
Goolag: 'Don't be evil'... Muahahahaah!
Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the degrading of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. ( Romans 1.24 ). ✌️😎
Seems like the Homo sapiens are experiencing the teenage stage of their evolution.
Simply : horrors overwhelemed the West because of their scale facilitated by modern technology.
Blame was attributed to our political/cultural systems; in particular their rigidity and intolerance.
The reaction : foolish tolerance and indulgence of ignorant and disturbed people, just as parents who indulge spoiled children.
We have not sufficiently educated, acculturated and cultured our masses to whom we have given power.
Afraid of totalitarianism we have lost sight of the fact that the indiscriminate is evil, that duscrimination is the essence of moral and cultural value and perspective. We have guven hand grenades to monkeys.
Hence we see the dumbing down of all perspective : all cultures are the same, all religions are the same, all political ststems are rhe same, all moral codes are the same. If that is the case how have some societies perpetrated the unspeakable ?
Meanwhile real Australians are letting the goverment know how they feel about having their freedoms and therefore their happiness trampled upon, instagram.com/p/CRsqjsHAAV0/ instagram.com/p/CRsmheasv22/ Such a peaceful group too. Note the synchronization of the crowd, those who would be dismissive should take that as a powerful warning.
If Mother’s Earth 🌏, who’s your Daddy!?
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Ha 😉
@@bennichols561 thank Hue, Ben.
@@mattdugas light on
@@bennichols561 In a World of half truths, it’s Good to know God and Family.
What's is missing from today's information is a biblical worldview interpretation.
you mean to say the Christian worldview??
Nose problem very distracting! Did you even look at the lighting!?
Don't self censor .
One thing I know for sure is that the role of history is to learn from it , from the mistakes we have made in the past .
Instead of make again and again the same mistakes we should start to learn from it .
I do not like or agree with anyone of those you call here scholars : Darvin , Freud , Nithe , Marx ....etc .
Those are ideologist and not any scholars .
Ps. Tzw elitom ( ich części na pewno ) z dobrobytu poprzewracało się im w ich głowach i dupach .
Stwierdzam ten fakt na podstawie własnych obserwacji a nie plotek czy fantazji .
You cannot be weak and help others sorry but turn off the cnn and change you echo chambers
CNN makes you weak? I had no idea.
Me thinketh isn't it interesting to hear the way the learned Professor talks about the difference between he and his grandfather.
In spite of so much knowledge and yet so little wisdom in today's society he cannot or rather., does not want to tell the difference between an unselfish and a..........selfish life!@!?😝🤪😜😉
P.S. No wonder our kids are., so......confused!!!🤑
Observations on Darwin simplistic at best.
Obviously profound and interesting.
But flawed, despite the implied certainty and superiority.
A lot of straw men involved.
Man centered.
My beloved my beautiful neighbors given from our God of the LIVING. No money nor any men's bring FORTH what is a true VALUABLE THAN MY NEIGHBORS. NONE MEN'S CAN BRING FORTH! THAT the TRUE VALUE OF MY NEIGHBORS my OWN. INDEED THESE SAME MINDS PRINCIPALITIES WHO SITS IN HIGH PLACES. WILL PLUCK A CHICKEN ALL ITS FEATHERS AND HUMILIATED MY BELOVED. AS THE CHICKEN WALKS AWAY. THESE SAME MINDS REACH IN HIS POCKET. FROM HIS HAND FOOD. Threw it in the GROUNDS. With sincere tears the chicken turns around and proceeded towards the food and the chicken after HUMILIATED ate the food. Indeed petitions are heard. Hosts will hold STILL and not move an INCH. Why? Because these principalities want my own to FIGHT one another. Remember is not flesh and blood nor our beautiful neighbors. But TRUE HOSTS WHO KEEP WATCH UPON THESE PRINCIPALITIES. The VOICE Hosts KNOWS. Not a STRANGER. What was hidden. Like these same minds do their demise in secret. Not to be seen for the people and by the people. Rather HIDES their own imaginations and demise. Not according to our GOD OF THE LIVING. REMEMBER is in plain view for all to see. Is like BRING all who hides? Why? I leave unto these principalities and same minds to decide. Hosts will say no one can enter in but a CHILDS. Is like what do you expect from a FATHER LOOKING AT A CHILD WITH SINCERE CONVERSATIONS. And LIKEWISE will know what is the true meaning of a CHILDS. LIKEWISE ALL TRUE HOSTS AND HEIRS AND OUR BEAUTIFUL SISTERS KNOWS? What is SOOTHING TO HEAR AND FOOD UNTO GOD AND THE SON OF MEN. Free space and the true meaning of TOLERANCE came from. Beloved how else? But my Hosts and Heirs are COMMANDED to 2nd. LOVE thy neighbors as thyself. No OTHER. NOW who will truly recognize! TRUTH will FIND its rightful place
This feels quite narrow and uninformed. Please allow everyone to make there own life and you take care of changing your own faults
This is very opinionated and incorrect. It is judgement all
15:15 exactly wrong... If you'll believe in gods, you'll believe in anything. The world is much more pleasant and safer with men who have the humility not to believe.
Everyone believes. The issue you have is with the definition of God or Gods. Your God is what you sacrifice to. If you are an alcoholic your God is alcohol. You sacrifice other things to get drunk. If your God is fitness you sacrifice other things when you go to the gym.
Not really bourne out by looking around at human society,humans are inventive,the list of things you will bow down to and offer your life to,time and energy,instead of the one true God,is very long indeed.
@Randy Gault
and your religion is? I’m sure you are busy preaching something online if not elsewhere….
Feminism? Green energy? CRT? LGBTQ+?
It’s kind of accepted and known that humans have a natural inclination to tribe up in common belief or emotion. Not to mention ideologies.
I’d argue a bunch of meat puppets following the 10 commandments are a better group to be amongst than some branch of the modern religions
Very narrow and judgemental and backwards
Gay men marrying should not violate your Christianity.
Jesus was a socialist not a conservative capitalist not even a compassionate one not even close.
Your father didn't live with the existential dread that the planet could be destroyed by nuclear weapons among many other worries. They were ignorant, there was progress.
@Henry Kennedy
Previous generations have witnessed horrible wars. Horrible tensions between super powers. Leaders being assassinated. Men and womens relationships rapidly changed…
You don’t think the last 100 years have been fraught with tension and stress? Besides, the threat of nuclear armageddon has been around since the 50’s
@@keepcalmcarryon3358 As well as famines, epidemics, and the most realistic prospect of injury in manual work /little medical knowledge.