@gizmothesquirrel9094 I think US which is usually less than Canadian if you can believe that. Either way it is absurd. They could price them at $35k and I still don't think they would move any.
they are offering hornets for like 30% off MSRP at my local dealership and people still arent buying them. Im not kidding, ive seen exactly ONE in the past year, and it was a rental car.
@@artimeis I think anyone who buys a new (overpriced) car (and they all are) on credit is a fool with their money. Thats why the so called middle class has little or no real wealth. But banks love fools.
Same here , my car outside was £3000 or $4300 bucks , Diesel Peugeot 2011 508SW Estate , would never buy a new anything car or truck at these prices , think I'll buy one of these in 10 years for 5k hahahaha
i just bought 8 cars for $30K, Canadian. a 2002 RAV4 for $2K, a 2006 Accord 6MT V6 for $4K an FX35 for $3K (needed $2000 in repairs) a Hyundai Veracruz (amazing SUV) for $5K, a lexus RX350 for $6K , a lexus GS350 AWD for $4K oh, a Saturn VUE 2009 XR for $3500, and just for fun a 1993 camry for $2K . The lexus RX350 and RAV4 I should be able to sell for $14K as a flip. The Saturn needs new transmission solenoids but should be able to sell that for $4K after repairs. I'm having way more fun driving a bunch of old cars, compared to having one fancy car and paying $20K in sales taxes alone. Drive that truck off the lot and you've just lost $35K in taxes and one-days worth of depreciation!!!!! FTShite.
@@joeMW284 I stopped buying Dodge after they weren't Dodge anymore. Last truck I bought was in 96. Still going, and no its not a rotted out shit box as everyone envisions old cars we folks hold on to. Goes to car shows regularly and I use it as a truck.
The problem is any turbo engine will not last as long and they have more issues. I am not a JDR fan by any means, the turbo engines with any brand are no good for long-term Scotty Kilmer and many other car RUclipsrs and mechanics agree
@@WheelsandWallets i could be your right but lets wait and see ive heard of no major issues with it after 3 yrs in the wagoneer grand wagoneer and they have 1000 hp crates so lets wait n see cummins doesnt burn turbos
And their Unions got hundreds of $$ Billions in taxpayer money and still went on strike last year and got paid massive $$$ contracts. I suggest look at Honda and Toyota, Toyota trucks have the most US content after Ford, and are made in the USA.
Saw a repair shop om Facebook with the entire interior ripped because that was the Stellantis procedure for fixing the rear camera, complete new loom and it maybe fixes it
I tried talking some wealthy bimbo out of buying one of these when they first came out, it wasn’t her money so she didn’t care and got a summit for almost $200k Canadian. A couple months after I left that dealership (about a year after she bought it) she apparently came back and sold it back to the dealership without getting another vehicle for a nearly $80k loss and then came back a couple days later with her dad and husband (the ones who’s money it actually was) and they where furious 😂 Tried getting refunds for a bunch of stuff, wanted to buy it back at the price they sold it back to the dealership, threatened lawsuits, etc. I get not trusting the salesman, but when they’re turning you away from one of the most expensive models with one of the highest commissions for a new vehicle, you might want to at least ask why 🤣 I didn’t sell it to her just to be clear, she was with her husband and they left to look around other dealerships before she come back on the weekend with her dad and they bought it from our top salesman after he talked them into it and she convinced her dad. Woman was probably mid-late 30’s.
I think dealers have been advised they’re all going to be out of business in 5 years or less. They’re just bagging the silverware as the Titanic sinks.
@@KathleenLopez-n7w I’ve always wondered about those people that buy one as a daily driver and never use it for its pick-up abilities. Just why? So much usable space just wasted and they are not the most fuel efficient vehicles on the road. Never seen an off road, never towed a thing.
@@KathleenLopez-n7wIm still driving my 1998 Chevy k1500 and go camping every summer and haul my bikes and kayaks, no monthly payment and $50 a month for insurance, im not broke its just all i need and its a great truck, people think a 5 year old vehicle is told old i just dont get it
We were in Atlantic CIty NJ last weekend and decided to stop by the Jeep, dodge, Ram dealer to see if the “so called major price reduction was true”, it def wasn’t here. They were packed with vehicles, every single vehicle they had, yes all of them had a 10,000 adjustment. They still have 2023 and they all had 10,000 adjustment. A 2023 Jeep Compass for almost 50,000, insanity! They had two Wagoneers they were charging up because it had sit so long, they wouldn’t start. Sales guy came up and ask us why we were laughing and we said because of the mark up on all these. He looked confused and completely clueless, we left.
I'm a used person and will always be a used car person. Bought my first car used and will buy my last car as a used car. Just bought a 2016 Jeep Patriot for only $8,500 in cash. They already bought new tires for it and a complete new brake system. Only thing wrong after that was a small oil leak. Pay the man and fix the oil leak. Just a rusty and thin oil pan. Replace it and bingo no more oil leak. This Jeep runs like a champ for just simple travels. My previous car was a 2006 Ford Freestyle and it last me 14 years until the tranny start slipping. That's why I have the Jeep now.
At 84 months, people are not getting 7%. They’re stretching the terms to 7 or 8 years because they can’t really afford it, and the interest rate will reflect that.
@@bobcoats2708 I'd say it's really because the past 10yrs have changed drastically for cars and trucks. It costs more to replace body panels and the fancy LED lights to meet safetypick+. Then, people think $300 car loans exist for NEW vehicles, when that haven't been the case for years, shoot even the civic hybrid is $30k before taxes and fees.
Now they’re selling the tungsten for $95K! 95K for a 1500!!!! TRX now going for $125K….. 2500 limited for about $100K…. I’m taking my six figures and buying a Porsche. I will never drop six figures on a work truck what are these people smoking? And this is coming from a guy who had a brand new RAM rebel diesel, and can access those higher price points, and who is a huge RAM fan! I’m just not doing it Stelantis! Go pound sand friends..
The only way to stop this madness is an all out boycott of the entire auto industry ! But there is always going to be some ass that will spend this ridiculous amount of of money on a vehicle
The way to stop this is reduce the amount people can borrow based on their salary. If they reduced how much people can borrow based on what they earn, the price of these cars will drop because their target market will be priced out.
Do that and the price of used cars will skyrocket. Dealerships will buy up anything they can and the prices will be insanely high... Kind of exactly like what's happening now. Why would they sell new cars at lower prices than used ones. Why would they make tons of new cars when they can sell half as much for twice the price and still make billions in profits? Financing is also insane at high single digit and low double digit%.
Those Covid checks brought out the greed in all these automakers. They all seem to want to sell their high priced models rather than their cheaper ones. So they want to sell less cars for more money rather than more cars for less money. So let's see if this fuck the customer attitude get's them what they want.
We are in automotive crazy world. After buying numerous new cars in my lifetime, I am officially done. I could never justify spending that amount for what I know will be near worthless in a few years.
@@countdankula6740 forgot to mention that the jeep was 75k, the added 25k in upgrades raises the value of the jeep to 100k so its worth that (it is all stupid, i am obv joking wit this)
Dodge doesn’t understand they are thinking too hard, they quite literally have some of the stupidest customers out there, just roll out something colorful with a million horsepower v8 and call it a day
Went to a Dodge dealership near me to look at Challengers before they disappear. Saw a nice red 5.7 w/ the T/A package. It had been sitting for months, nothing but test drives on it. Salesman had it listed for just over $45K in his computer. I asked him about the $45K. Right infront of me, he closed his screen, laughed, told me I didn't see that and proceeded to tell me it was a $65K car at minimum. I walked out. Let them rot. I can't wait until we can buy cars direct from the manufacturer.
@@richardthayer5907 Apparently you've never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies. Any current movies with the new plastic computers on wheels are lame anyway. All the cool cars were made in the '60s and the prices of survivors and restored ones reflect that. The current low rent Chargers and Challenger's have become a meme.
My sister and brother in law stopped buying American cars in the mid 1990’s. They have bought only Hondas and Toyotas ever since and they haven’t been disappointed.
Unions: Get a huge pay increase. Dealers: "Lets put $20K add ons for this vehicle that doesn't do anything but add flair". General Motors/ Ford/ chrysler sales: "why aren't our products selling ?? "
LOL that truck at the beginning reminded me when i lived in oklahoma city and a dude i worked with lived with his grandma in a trailer park and drove a 90k truck to try and pick up women lmfao. dude literally got calls from collections on the daily
I can do without the cameras and sensors. I’ll take cloth seats too but of course they don’t offer that as a package. They’ve added 20-30k more At least. These companies are showing they don’t listen to us. Stop buying them
@diegovn If more people wanted cloth seats, they'd be in the cars. The reason why these vehicles are so expensive is because 75-80% of the traffic were buying the highest trim truck. Most people don't even know that a Denali is a Yukon or Sierra. You trying to tell me wiping leather seats isn't easier than scrubbing cloth? Bro, what planet you living on?
I remember in college. I bought a 4 year old wrangler for $8999. I had a part time job at Safeway on weekends. $2000 down and payments were $165 for 48 months.
Im so lucky I got my Wrangler in 2019. Fully loaded with a $46K sticker for $38K cuz it was sitting on a lot for a bit. Love it and its treated me well over the years.
There are monsters who're willing to spend 100,000 dollars on a pavement princess truck not willing to invest a single cent into their child's education, not even tuition for community college.
At the point that they cost the same as a Porsche or Mercedes what would you buy? Definitely isn’t going to be a fiat made dodge with tech from 10 years ago, there’s a reason why Mercedes fired Chrysler when they owned them.
It’s because of the UAW contract signed off this past November. the massive raises for the people on the line now reflect the prices on the stickers of the windows. They shot themselves on the foot and they don’t care.
Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram have had a absolutely terrible reputation for reliability. Buying one of those vehicles with "Lot Rot" isn't in your best interests and then you actually have to wonder if they'll be around long enough to honor the warranty. Why would anyone put themselves in that situation? its just not worth it if you value your time and money.
Most stuff built after the late 90's sure. My 96 and 04 are both going strong with no issues. One of which was a "throwaway" car. 300k and still going.
I paid $45k for my 2018-1/2 Rubicon JL, the first model year of the JL. I love that jeep, but I bet to buy another one comparably equipped would be way over $60k.
When the Nissan Z came out I went to check one out. 33k MSRP seemed like a pretty decent buy. I walked out when I saw that the tag price was 77k. As far as I know the silver base Z is still on the lot.
I have been shopping for a car recently and there is a reason why all the Toyota, honda, mazda, Hyundai lots are busy with people. Jeep dodge and ram think they are a luxury brand without the luxury cars.
If the people would quit buying them they will learn , the same thing with concert tickets if the people won’t buy them at the ridiculously high prices they might learn
I paid $144k for my new build house in 1997. No way in hell I'm spending nearly that for something that gets me from point A to point B (unless it is an exotic, and my income does not support owning one of those).
Here in Germany, American made cars were always a pretty rare sight, but you could and still can get many types at a dealer (Wrangler, GC, RAM, Camaro, Challenger, 300c, Bronco, Mustang and others). Prices were moderate and sometimes really fair for what you get. I owned a Chrysler 300c (2007 model) and Chrysler Crossfire (2003 model). Anyway, Detroit Iron has not the best reputation in a country where Audi, VW, Mercedes and Porsche are produced. Still, I like Amarican cars. Around 2019, prices suddenly exploded for the US made stuff. A new Wrangler f. e. has a 70.000 € price tag while it was around 39.000 € in 2019.
I’m up here in God’s country, Canada. Recently I went to the Dodge dealership to look at a two door jeep Rubicon. As soon as I asked if they had any on the lot they wanted me to sit down and put my name in the computer. I said, no, I just want to look at one. They found a black one in the back and brought it up. I was absolutely shocked at the MSRP. Almost $90k and that’s just a two seater. Imagine after taxes and the add ons. I still can’t believe it, I told my buddy who was with me that in two years you’d be lucky to get $40 grand for it. ps the stereo sounded like crap.
I have a 2006 1500 mega cab 4x4, factory lifted. When the engine blew, it was time to make a decision. As soon as I found out what they were asking for a similar package of truck today, the decision made itself. I put a new engine in my truck. I painted my truck. I upgraded all of the electronics in my truck. I put remote start in my truck. I redid the interior in my truck. I made my 2006 truck brand new again, and spent about $20,000 doing it. And I get the V8 hemi in my deal. They can blow these truck prices out of their asses. Like you said, you don't even get the V8 anymore for all that money. They are insane. The only thing that's not brand new in my 18-year-old truck, now, is the transmission. I'm sure I'll have to have that rebuilt sooner or later. I will glad they drop another four grand on that rebuild when the time comes. What I will never do, ever in this life, it's been six figures on a damned truck. There are ways around it.
I bought my 2001 Jeep in 2005 with 50kmiles for 6000 dollars. I’ve pulled off more than 3k worth of parts I’ve bought and I’m still in my Jeep less than 25k for the entire time I’ve owned it. Put 100k miles on it wheel all the time have three tops and lots of extra parts. The accessories on that Jeep cost more than my last 20 years of wheeling and driving hard.
Markups for vehicles these days are absolutely insane, and they wonder why they don’t sell like they used to. I can find jeeps in my area, brand new latest model, in the low to mid $40k and they’re still dropping in price because no one wants them. Picked up a 2024 Gladiator Mojave from a local dealership before they closed up shop. 0 miles, for about $38k
I've always owned Ram trucks from a Ram 2500 diesel and the Ram 1500 hemi sport, but for the first time a year and a half purchased a Ram 1500 Express hemi 20" wheels tow package and used because I'm not paying over $1000 a month for a work truck.
I will never buy another American truck! just got us a Nissan Frontier SV 4x4 crew cab long bed. at 1/3 of the price of a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge plus great gas mileage.
$52k for a Dodge Hornet.😂😂😂They can't give those things away. Stellantis/Dodge are a clown show now.
Is that in US dollars?
Or Canadian?
@gizmothesquirrel9094 I think US which is usually less than Canadian if you can believe that. Either way it is absurd. They could price them at $35k and I still don't think they would move any.
I haven’t seen a single Hornet on the road or in a parking lot. Who is buying these?
@@scottferris6309 NOBODY...🤣🤣🤣
they are offering hornets for like 30% off MSRP at my local dealership and people still arent buying them. Im not kidding, ive seen exactly ONE in the past year, and it was a rental car.
High prices for low quality, what a concept.
That’s been the Chrysler mindset since long before Stellantis took over 😂
Because of government regulation. Government regulation is the problem.
People see the government getting away with poor service for high pay, so why wouldn't everyone else try it to?
@@BlindBiker3 LOL, lack of government doing their JOBS is what causes most of the problems in the USA.
@@ChillWill-q5x because other folks are honest, and they want to do what’s right, I’m not seeing everybody, but many folks.
When dealers are making $20-50k on each vehicle they dont care if it takes a year to sell them. But there’s always a fool out there to buy them.
Yup, plenty-fool. 😂
Not fool who has credit to do it.
@@artimeis I think anyone who buys a new (overpriced) car (and they all are) on credit is a fool with their money. Thats why the so called middle class has little or no real wealth. But banks love fools.
@@artimeisstill a fool
“There’s a sucker born every minute.” P.T. Barnum
Even if I made 250k per year I can't imagine buying a 100k car
Same here , my car outside was £3000 or $4300 bucks , Diesel Peugeot 2011 508SW Estate , would never buy a new anything car or truck at these prices , think I'll buy one of these in 10 years for 5k hahahaha
I could. But it sure as hell wouldn't be a Stellantis product, I'll tell you that.
i just bought 8 cars for $30K, Canadian. a 2002 RAV4 for $2K, a 2006 Accord 6MT V6 for $4K an FX35 for $3K (needed $2000 in repairs) a Hyundai Veracruz (amazing SUV) for $5K, a lexus RX350 for $6K , a lexus GS350 AWD for $4K oh, a Saturn VUE 2009 XR for $3500, and just for fun a 1993 camry for $2K . The lexus RX350 and RAV4 I should be able to sell for $14K as a flip. The Saturn needs new transmission solenoids but should be able to sell that for $4K after repairs. I'm having way more fun driving a bunch of old cars, compared to having one fancy car and paying $20K in sales taxes alone.
Drive that truck off the lot and you've just lost $35K in taxes and one-days worth of depreciation!!!!! FTShite.
I bet they are all financed or on leases
@@joeMW284 I stopped buying Dodge after they weren't Dodge anymore. Last truck I bought was in 96. Still going, and no its not a rotted out shit box as everyone envisions old cars we folks hold on to. Goes to car shows regularly and I use it as a truck.
Dealers have lost their minds with those prices. $73,000 for a V6 is insane.
It’s Crazy
its NOT v6 its a str8 six twin turbo with more power and torque than a 6.4 hemi... educate yourself
He thinks it’s a 3.6 pentastar 😂
The problem is any turbo engine will not last as long and they have more issues. I am not a JDR fan by any means, the turbo engines with any brand are no good for long-term Scotty Kilmer and many other car RUclipsrs and mechanics agree
@@WheelsandWallets i could be your right but lets wait and see ive heard of no major issues with it after 3 yrs in the wagoneer grand wagoneer and they have 1000 hp crates so lets wait n see cummins doesnt burn turbos
Remember, our tax dollars bailed this company out of bankruptcy.
And their Unions got hundreds of $$ Billions in taxpayer money and still went on strike last year and got paid massive $$$ contracts. I suggest look at Honda and Toyota, Toyota trucks have the most US content after Ford, and are made in the USA.
Watch the gov do it again
52k for a hornet.
Aint worth 20
Mazda line is so much nicer than that crap, for half the price
@@Thechosen77as an owner of a CX 5 I agree!
I would rather take a base Corolla with hand crank windows
@@Thechosen77seriously, there’s so many better options out there. Just get a cx or hrv
i genuinely guessed 24k lol
That Hornet would have been a great 15-20k car. IMHO
Maybe, but peeps want reliable cars even if they're inexpensive. Dodge/Jeep/RAM products are not reliable.
Which is probably why customers will go to hyundai
$52k for a Dodge Hornet???
That's a fully loaded Lexus ES sedan!
That's just a dressed-up Camry.....also a rip.
Your statement proves that you know nothing about cars.
More like a base model Macan
@@Desertbiker617 lexus>dodge hornet
@@Desertbiker617 your statement tells us you bought a hornet and are tryna cope hard
One word: GREED
Even at $86k for the Wagoneer, never worth it given the poor mechanical record and high depreciation. They’re junk.
Saw a repair shop om Facebook with the entire interior ripped because that was the Stellantis procedure for fixing the rear camera, complete new loom and it maybe fixes it
I tried talking some wealthy bimbo out of buying one of these when they first came out, it wasn’t her money so she didn’t care and got a summit for almost $200k Canadian. A couple months after I left that dealership (about a year after she bought it) she apparently came back and sold it back to the dealership without getting another vehicle for a nearly $80k loss and then came back a couple days later with her dad and husband (the ones who’s money it actually was) and they where furious 😂 Tried getting refunds for a bunch of stuff, wanted to buy it back at the price they sold it back to the dealership, threatened lawsuits, etc.
I get not trusting the salesman, but when they’re turning you away from one of the most expensive models with one of the highest commissions for a new vehicle, you might want to at least ask why 🤣 I didn’t sell it to her just to be clear, she was with her husband and they left to look around other dealerships before she come back on the weekend with her dad and they bought it from our top salesman after he talked them into it and she convinced her dad. Woman was probably mid-late 30’s.
@@AlexPeace246my goodness
I think dealers have been advised they’re all going to be out of business in 5 years or less. They’re just bagging the silverware as the Titanic sinks.
This.
Why are they going out of business??!? News to me
@@chunkycheese73 never change, my sweet summer child
Only a complete fool would buy that truck .. they deserve it
And the emission related repairs ...don't think so? Try one
It's always some trust fund kid
Don’t call folks fools, he may be liable to the gates of judgment for it.
@@BlindBiker3 I guess I will agree with you
@@BlindBiker3Did you buy an overpriced truck?
A Jeep is not a luxury car it's supposed to be for hunting and ranching that's it $25,000 at the most
Same thing happened to the pick up truck it was supposed to be just to go the dump and camping they were never really driven daily
@@KathleenLopez-n7w I’ve always wondered about those people that buy one as a daily driver and never use it for its pick-up abilities. Just why? So much usable space just wasted and they are not the most fuel efficient vehicles on the road. Never seen an off road, never towed a thing.
@@KathleenLopez-n7wIm still driving my 1998 Chevy k1500 and go camping every summer and haul my bikes and kayaks, no monthly payment and $50 a month for insurance, im not broke its just all i need and its a great truck, people think a 5 year old vehicle is told old i just dont get it
Now they are meant to haul ducks in the dash and attack rain puddles in the mall parking lots.
@@F450FTW 😂 don’t forget it’s a requirement to change the grill so it looks angry!
We were in Atlantic CIty NJ last weekend and decided to stop by the Jeep, dodge, Ram dealer to see if the “so called major price reduction was true”, it def wasn’t here. They were packed with vehicles, every single vehicle they had, yes all of them had a 10,000 adjustment. They still have 2023 and they all had 10,000 adjustment. A 2023 Jeep Compass for almost 50,000, insanity! They had two Wagoneers they were charging up because it had sit so long, they wouldn’t start. Sales guy came up and ask us why we were laughing and we said because of the mark up on all these. He looked confused and completely clueless, we left.
$50k plus for a small car, $60k plus for a Jeep? Damn, crazy rip off times
I'm a used person and will always be a used car person. Bought my first car used and will buy my last car as a used car. Just bought a 2016 Jeep Patriot for only $8,500 in cash. They already bought new tires for it and a complete new brake system. Only thing wrong after that was a small oil leak. Pay the man and fix the oil leak. Just a rusty and thin oil pan. Replace it and bingo no more oil leak. This Jeep runs like a champ for just simple travels. My previous car was a 2006 Ford Freestyle and it last me 14 years until the tranny start slipping. That's why I have the Jeep now.
Those Hornets are trash 😂
All of the Fiat models are trash, Renegade, Cherokee L, Wagoneer and the Promasters.
There are Idiots that will Finance these Overpriced Trucks over 72 and 84 months at 7% interest rate !
Hell, you can get a 10yr loan on vehicles nowdays
My brother works at a dealership, they can go to 15 on vehicles depending on credit
At 84 months, people are not getting 7%. They’re stretching the terms to 7 or 8 years because they can’t really afford it, and the interest rate will reflect that.
@@bobcoats2708 I'd say it's really because the past 10yrs have changed drastically for cars and trucks. It costs more to replace body panels and the fancy LED lights to meet safetypick+. Then, people think $300 car loans exist for NEW vehicles, when that haven't been the case for years, shoot even the civic hybrid is $30k before taxes and fees.
Spending this kind of money on a depreciating asset it nuts. Good video.
A $120k Jeep. It will depreciate more than a respectable $50k salary within the first year.
Word has been out for over a decade! Overpriced junk.
If it wasn't for the government buying police cars from them, Chargers, they would be broke already.
52k for that thing is crazy. It should be like 17k.
That Dodge Hornet is Italian. Sticker said "Final assembly: ITALY" . So they think they can charge Ferrari prices lol
Buy it and watch it depreciate like a Ice Cube melting in the hot sun
Now they’re selling the tungsten for $95K! 95K for a 1500!!!! TRX now going for $125K….. 2500 limited for about $100K…. I’m taking my six figures and buying a Porsche. I will never drop six figures on a work truck what are these people smoking? And this is coming from a guy who had a brand new RAM rebel diesel, and can access those higher price points, and who is a huge RAM fan! I’m just not doing it Stelantis! Go pound sand friends..
This is why I decided to restore my 2000 Chevy instead of buying new. Even after spending $20k I’m $50k ahead of a new one and it’s now custom!
Idoit.
Lol that's a normal response 😀
I'm in your home
The only way to stop this madness is an all out boycott of the entire auto industry ! But there is always going to be some ass that will spend this ridiculous amount of of money on a vehicle
Happening now
Exactly. There is always an American willing to consume just for the sake of consuming
The way to stop this is reduce the amount people can borrow based on their salary. If they reduced how much people can borrow based on what they earn, the price of these cars will drop because their target market will be priced out.
Vote with your wallet… I just buy used cars, and my max budget is 35k
Do that and the price of used cars will skyrocket. Dealerships will buy up anything they can and the prices will be insanely high... Kind of exactly like what's happening now.
Why would they sell new cars at lower prices than used ones. Why would they make tons of new cars when they can sell half as much for twice the price and still make billions in profits?
Financing is also insane at high single digit and low double digit%.
Those Covid checks brought out the greed in all these automakers. They all seem to want to sell their high priced models rather than their cheaper ones. So they want to sell less cars for more money rather than more cars for less money. So let's see if this fuck the customer attitude get's them what they want.
They’re in for a rude awakening
It's a lot easier to make fewer cars for more money each, than a lot of cars for less money each.
I laughed my ass off when he showed the price of that hornet!
Top dollar for bottom of the barrel quality
real
The Chrysler dealership near me is still charging $38k for a base model 2023 Chrysler 300😂
Stellantis killed production of the Chrysler 300 in 2023. The new model will be powered by electricity, candy corn, and dreams.
We are in automotive crazy world. After buying numerous new cars in my lifetime, I am officially done. I could never justify spending that amount for what I know will be near worthless in a few years.
oh man, these prices are insane. 73K for a mid level truck?
Something has to happen because we cannot sustain these prices it’s out of control! IMHO When it crashes, it’s going to crash hard!
Bought new, my 2019 Ram classic 1500 regular cab with a hemi for $29,000. Keeping it
115,000 dollars?? That would be a nice down payment on a house. Ridiculous!!
$115000 for a vehicle that won't last 115000 miles
Not many moonbats left to pay that kind of money...
Thats funy because someone will buy a cheaper truck and put 25k worth of upgrades in it and nobody nlinks an eye
@@DanielDahl-i9p
So, should people pay $100k for a jeep and add $25k in upgrades?
@@countdankula6740 i said a cheaper truck
@@countdankula6740 forgot to mention that the jeep was 75k, the added 25k in upgrades raises the value of the jeep to 100k so its worth that (it is all stupid, i am obv joking wit this)
Dodge doesn’t understand they are thinking too hard, they quite literally have some of the stupidest customers out there, just roll out something colorful with a million horsepower v8 and call it a day
Went to a Dodge dealership near me to look at Challengers before they disappear. Saw a nice red 5.7 w/ the T/A package. It had been sitting for months, nothing but test drives on it. Salesman had it listed for just over $45K in his computer. I asked him about the $45K. Right infront of me, he closed his screen, laughed, told me I didn't see that and proceeded to tell me it was a $65K car at minimum. I walked out. Let them rot. I can't wait until we can buy cars direct from the manufacturer.
CLEARLY the dealerships doing this ONLY care about profit, they do NOT CARE about the clients. I will NEVER, EVER, EVER buy from them. Period
switched from Mopar to Honda years ago - SO MUCH better quality
NO movie has ever been made about a Honda...they are just commuter cars.
I went from Mopar to VW,- so much worse with ACTUAL versus PERCEIVED quality/durability/reliability. VW pushed me to Honda which led me to Toyota
@@richardthayer5907 Apparently you've never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies. Any current movies with the new plastic computers on wheels are lame anyway. All the cool cars were made in the '60s and the prices of survivors and restored ones reflect that. The current low rent Chargers and Challenger's have become a meme.
My sister and brother in law stopped buying American cars in the mid 1990’s. They have bought only Hondas and Toyotas ever since and they haven’t been disappointed.
That's horseshit.
Man, the 49k I paid for my 2023 4runner TRD ORP seems like a steal now. Crazy.
Nah 4runners are not the 4runner of yesteryear, bud...they are cheaply made and have a lot of mechanical issues
Unions: Get a huge pay increase.
Dealers: "Lets put $20K add ons for this vehicle that doesn't do anything but add flair".
General Motors/ Ford/ chrysler sales: "why aren't our products selling ?? "
LOL that truck at the beginning reminded me when i lived in oklahoma city and a dude i worked with lived with his grandma in a trailer park and drove a 90k truck to try and pick up women lmfao. dude literally got calls from collections on the daily
I wouldn’t take a modern day Dodge or Jeep for free!
Then you are slow or a liar
And You Wonder Why The Lots Are Full ? People Aren't Buying!
I can do without the cameras and sensors. I’ll take cloth seats too but of course they don’t offer that as a package. They’ve added 20-30k more At least. These companies are showing they don’t listen to us. Stop buying them
Cloth seats...I bet your car smells like straight trash 😂😂
Cloth seats are the best. Leather sucks
@@diegovn I bet. They keep all the nasty fart and pet smells trapped in it 🙄
@alleng012985 they are easy to clean with a extractor and require less maintenance
@diegovn If more people wanted cloth seats, they'd be in the cars. The reason why these vehicles are so expensive is because 75-80% of the traffic were buying the highest trim truck. Most people don't even know that a Denali is a Yukon or Sierra. You trying to tell me wiping leather seats isn't easier than scrubbing cloth? Bro, what planet you living on?
Why would you ever buy a US vehicle if much better cars are available from pretty much any other country.
It’s not a US vehicle.
Dodge Hornet has the same price as a Mercedes 300 E Class. WTF , No where near the same gadgets or performance. Lol
You think you’ll never own a house?
Look at the prices on new cars
Look at the prices of used cars... Only 10% less than new and 10% financing. It's insane.
I remember in college. I bought a 4 year old wrangler for $8999. I had a part time job at Safeway on weekends. $2000 down and payments were $165 for 48 months.
Im so lucky I got my Wrangler in 2019. Fully loaded with a $46K sticker for $38K cuz it was sitting on a lot for a bit. Love it and its treated me well over the years.
I was like those Dodge Hornets arent too bad for 27k... then he read the price tag..
Hornet worth $34k MAX
They mark them high, give you a “discount” to make you feel like you got a deal 😂
It would be nice if american car companies stopped handing market share to asia.
Can you say shit box.
Tiny truck beds for a “work truck”
The other day on the news they were saying the average car payment is $700
And people say toyota's are expensive!
We gonna go back to public transportation because cars are no longer affordable.
There are monsters who're willing to spend 100,000 dollars on a pavement princess truck not willing to invest a single cent into their child's education, not even tuition for community college.
Don’t forget. The challenger/ hellcat is the number one most repossessed car in America
At the point that they cost the same as a Porsche or Mercedes what would you buy? Definitely isn’t going to be a fiat made dodge with tech from 10 years ago, there’s a reason why Mercedes fired Chrysler when they owned them.
It’s because of the UAW contract signed off this past November. the massive raises for the people on the line now reflect the prices on the stickers of the windows. They shot themselves on the foot and they don’t care.
Exactly. But it doesn't even register with most people.. they just attribute it to rich man's greed.
@@TheBenjamminthere is still obviously a markup going on
Bought a new base model 4cyl Wrangler in 1995 for about $15k…they’ve lost what they should be about.
Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram have had a absolutely terrible reputation for reliability. Buying one of those vehicles with "Lot Rot" isn't in your best interests and then you actually have to wonder if they'll be around long enough to honor the warranty. Why would anyone put themselves in that situation? its just not worth it if you value your time and money.
Most stuff built after the late 90's sure. My 96 and 04 are both going strong with no issues. One of which was a "throwaway" car. 300k and still going.
I paid $45k for my 2018-1/2 Rubicon JL, the first model year of the JL. I love that jeep, but I bet to buy another one comparably equipped would be way over $60k.
Charger and Challenger buyers are literally keeping Dodge alive at this point
When the Nissan Z came out I went to check one out. 33k MSRP seemed like a pretty decent buy.
I walked out when I saw that the tag price was 77k. As far as I know the silver base Z is still on the lot.
For over 100k I'll be at the Porsche dealership across the street (well, I would have been over there anyway).
I miss the golden days of the $20k SRT4
So true. We didn't know at the time that those were going to be the glory days.
That white wagoneer looks like my dads 2007 avalanche lol
They have a loyal customer base, loyal enough to survive this issue. They don’t care about dealers they are making money even if 80% doesn’t sell.
I have been shopping for a car recently and there is a reason why all the Toyota, honda, mazda, Hyundai lots are busy with people. Jeep dodge and ram think they are a luxury brand without the luxury cars.
The actual luxury brands are cheaper than these Dodges. You can get a fully loaded Mercedes AMG for what those Jeeps cost.
If the people would quit buying them they will learn , the same thing with concert tickets if the people won’t buy them at the ridiculously high prices they might learn
32,000 on a Hornet and not even heated seats...no give on price...no way
Problem: Sales are down.
Solution: Raise prices!
I paid $144k for my new build house in 1997. No way in hell I'm spending nearly that for something that gets me from point A to point B (unless it is an exotic, and my income does not support owning one of those).
2010 is the last ur to buy any jeep dodge ram
This is beautiful. Thank the UAW
Here in Germany, American made cars were always a pretty rare sight, but you could and still can get many types at a dealer (Wrangler, GC, RAM, Camaro, Challenger, 300c, Bronco, Mustang and others). Prices were moderate and sometimes really fair for what you get. I owned a Chrysler 300c (2007 model) and Chrysler Crossfire (2003 model). Anyway, Detroit Iron has not the best reputation in a country where Audi, VW, Mercedes and Porsche are produced. Still, I like Amarican cars.
Around 2019, prices suddenly exploded for the US made stuff. A new Wrangler f. e. has a 70.000 € price tag while it was around 39.000 € in 2019.
I’m up here in God’s country, Canada. Recently I went to the Dodge dealership to look at a two door jeep Rubicon. As soon as I asked if they had any on the lot they wanted me to sit down and put my name in the computer. I said, no, I just want to look at one. They found a black one in the back and brought it up. I was absolutely shocked at the MSRP. Almost $90k and that’s just a two seater. Imagine after taxes and the add ons. I still can’t believe it, I told my buddy who was with me that in two years you’d be lucky to get $40 grand for it. ps the stereo sounded like crap.
If i had the money to throw away why would i throw it away in a wagoneer or a hornet?
I have a 2006 1500 mega cab 4x4, factory lifted. When the engine blew, it was time to make a decision. As soon as I found out what they were asking for a similar package of truck today, the decision made itself.
I put a new engine in my truck. I painted my truck. I upgraded all of the electronics in my truck. I put remote start in my truck. I redid the interior in my truck.
I made my 2006 truck brand new again, and spent about $20,000 doing it.
And I get the V8 hemi in my deal.
They can blow these truck prices out of their asses. Like you said, you don't even get the V8 anymore for all that money. They are insane.
The only thing that's not brand new in my 18-year-old truck, now, is the transmission. I'm sure I'll have to have that rebuilt sooner or later. I will glad they drop another four grand on that rebuild when the time comes.
What I will never do, ever in this life, it's been six figures on a damned truck. There are ways around it.
I didn't become wealthy by being a fool. Buying one of these overpriced trucks would make you a fool. Be wise with your money.
My local dealer has been offering some good deals recently. $10k below sticker on some Jeeps.
V6 full size trucks is a joke within itself
It is absolutely insane to pay luxury car prices for a Jeep. I guess there are some people out there with more money than sense.
I bought my 2001 Jeep in 2005 with 50kmiles for 6000 dollars. I’ve pulled off more than 3k worth of parts I’ve bought and I’m still in my Jeep less than 25k for the entire time I’ve owned it. Put 100k miles on it wheel all the time have three tops and lots of extra parts. The accessories on that Jeep cost more than my last 20 years of wheeling and driving hard.
A Dodge 2500 2020 crew cab I was looking at had 53k miles, 1 major accident. Wanted 65k for it. Walked away when I heard the price. It’s insane.
🤨 RubiCON!!!! Metal box on 4 wheels be $125000!!!!? WHO thought up that?!
I just hope stellantis sells Jeep to a decent manufacturer when they INEVITABLY "reorganize"
If auto makers were to sell a bare bones vehicle for a reasonable price people would line up in droves.
I remember back in 2012 80-100k was like GTR and Porsche territory. Now it’s your everyday SUV
That Doge Hornet costs more than my Lexus. What y'all smoking??
Markups for vehicles these days are absolutely insane, and they wonder why they don’t sell like they used to. I can find jeeps in my area, brand new latest model, in the low to mid $40k and they’re still dropping in price because no one wants them. Picked up a 2024 Gladiator Mojave from a local dealership before they closed up shop. 0 miles, for about $38k
Did they really say they expect me to pay 23 grand just for a set of rims? 😅
That's almost as much as I paid for an entire Ram 1500 from 2016! 😮
I've always owned Ram trucks from a Ram 2500 diesel and the Ram 1500 hemi sport, but for the first time a year and a half purchased a Ram 1500 Express hemi 20" wheels tow package and used because I'm not paying over $1000 a month for a work truck.
I will never buy another American truck! just got us a Nissan Frontier SV 4x4 crew cab long bed. at 1/3 of the price of a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge plus great gas mileage.
Wait for price of coverage 😂😂