@@jaywerner8415 which works fine to make it A) easier to hit DDs and B) more likely to hit sides of CC/BB above the belt at an almost perpendicular angle at range.
You mean the glorious secret project Austovsky? *read with rushki accent* Every thirty seconds a comissar on the ship can tell the gunners to load faster or they will be sent to gulag. The gunners get so worked up that their sweat will evaporate on their skin, resulting automatically in a protecting steam cover cloud every time the comissar encourages them.
@@wombat4191 oh yes and don't forget when this "encouragement" skill is activated it gives a 75% reload boost which when operated in sync with the 75% reload booster the ship gets can decrease the reload to 0.5 seconds Unfortunately we found that in testing, trying to activate these two in sync requires some brain power to achieve, so we decided to make it easier by buffing the encouragement skill so that is instantly ends the cooldown on all other consumables while the encouragement consumable is active Additionally austovsky comes with a 14 km stealth radar that lasts for 35 seconds However with the activation of the "encouragement" consumable this can be increased to the entire map, meaning you are capable of spotting the entire enemy team at once To balance this the encouragement consumable has a *very* long cooldown period of....... 30 seconds :) meaning for 30 seconds you are actually a not capable of single handedly defeating the entire enemy team and will need find ways to work around this significant draw back.
@@breezyyeezy8858 The pen on this thing is more than enough to make it OP though. Moskva is almost impossible to pen for light cruisers and DDs, and you just saw Austin basically delete it in 15 seconds.
Not sure what you mean, Austin reload is about 3x slower than Harugumo. Even Des Moines has faster reload. It's only fast during a few seconds with reload boost.
@@joca1378 I dont know what the range is but the ship seems situational like Flint/Atlanta. You get that spot and that match your a god. Like Sipan in an all t6 match. MM gives you all T10 then you charge and get it over with lol. If a div take a US DD and this then yea its gona be nasty
WG: You like Harugomo ? You like Atlanta ? You like HE and SAP spamming ? Say no more Playerbase: But we want you to balan... WG: *I SAID SAY NO MORE !*
I don't get why people think CVs have unlimited planes. They regenerate a plane every 1-2 minutes for each squad, that's a best-case scenario of a plane every thirty seconds, or 40 planes by the end of the game.
@@Sky_Guy it's possible to shoot down close to 100 planes in a good game. Just look at Flambass' last video. But you're right, CVs can get de-planed, just takes a lot of effort.
@@shaun138 It's possible to shoot down so many because the fighter consumable on squadrons drops 3/5/7 planes that instantly die to AA, which skews the numbers.
@@Sky_Guy They used to regenerate NONE, making suicide strikes with no care in the world a very stupid and costly decision. Now FDG, Mannfred and the likes can decide to just kill you with little care in the world, even if they have to wait 5 minutes to get the planes back...
WG: we're taking our time with the italian BB and SAP. Making it "balanced" with horrible reload and shell size and logic Also WG: we're gonna release another SAP ship but with the most consumables and broken balistics
Just compare this to Minotaur: + lower citadel, reload booster -no smoke/radar, no superheal, 12 k less Hp, 243k SAP Dpm compared to 600k AP Dpm, much worse torpedo power I don't really see why would you want to play this ship...
@@lukasvtipil9951 Because with 75% reload booster that 243k SAP Dpm turns into 972 SAP Dpm? And you have unlimited charges. Also, SAP has more pen than mino AP. No Mino can ever do what he did to that Moskva and JB in that short of a time.
and some of the wackiest Dispersion i've ever seen. Seriously, the Ita BB's will put out (from one 2x1) shells at a 45 degree angle from each other at POINT BLANK RANGE. The barrels don't even move sideways, how the FUCK are the shells coming out at 45 degrees??????
Austin represents plans for CL-154 to 159. Basically an upscaled Oakland subclass variant of the Atlanta class; They were intended as a stop-gap measure to fill the CLAA role until the problems with Worcester's guns were sorted out. They were approved, but cancelled before they were named and were going to mount longer barrel, higher velocity, auto-loading 5" 54 calibre guns instead of the 5" 38 calibre found on the Atlanta and Oakland class cruisers. That's why the ballistic arcs are so flat compared to the other US 127mm guns. Austin's barrels are over 40% longer. Though the listed stats in-game show the initial muzzle velocity as nearly identical. 808 m/s on Austin compared to 792 m/s on Atlanta.
Don't worry. At this rate, no one is going to be playing World of Warships soon enough. -First they'll stop playing tier X because of all the broken ships that will be released that you can buy to give you a clear cut advantage. -Then they'll stop playing Tier VII because Wargaming will see that no one is playing X and will release OP Tier VII's because that's what tier everyone is playing in -Then that pattern will repeat for Tiers IV and I respectively. Imagine them putting OP premium TIER I's into the game. That'll be fun for the novelty alone. -Finally, no one will want to play their stupid game anymore because no matter what tier you pick you'll only have two choices: play for free and lose, or pay for premium ships and stand a chance of winning. And anyone who's honest with themselves will tell you: the only people who play pay to win games and have fun are the people who drop six digits on the damn things. If you aren't willing to do that, you're just roleplaying as a bitch AI for those types of people to smash into the ground. And, when that inevitably happens, I highly recommend giving Warframe a go. It's techno ninjas in space, not WWII ship combat, but the game's always been free to play and the devs have never been the type to promote pay to win (and the game's been around for 10+ years.) Hell, hardly anyone even plays the PVP in Warframe.
@@memyshelfandeye318 I'm not sure I get your idea (yet),but I believe Austin's SAP only have 38mm pen, no? That couldn't have pen Moskva's upper belt which is 50mm. Stern and bow are 25mm, sure, but everyone will probably agree with me that hitting those places is not easy at all (Petro have enormous 25mm bow, use that info however you want) and they are not consistent sources of dmg. Also we can see very clear in the vid that those shells hit almost exclusively superstructure, cuz Flambass intentionally aimed for that part
It's the ultimate feast or famine ship, Flambass got to feast this time but next game he'll be on Mountain Range or some other map with garbo island waifus and bow on enemies who'll blap him like the T10 Atlanta he is.
@@bladeclanhalo3 and a destroyer that live long enough to give him smoke, which is uncommon in random. But this ship sure will excel in a good division
To be fair, he seems to laugh most about the DMG output (when you can apply it) rather than the ship as a whole. I think the amount of CD based gimmicks and insande damage output we see on the Austin will pop up far more in the future. They don't throw the frog in the boiling water.
@@danh7411 cruiser icon does not mean a 1 to 1 cruiser dispersion pattern, which is fucking stupid but shit like Petro Exists and has slightly bad dispersion but omega kek pen.
Meanwhile, the free tier 10 Hindenburg will pull off a nice 5-10k HE salvo to a bb in those 15 seconds xD perfectly fine and balanced as all this should be. Give this ship an island or smoke and everything will die in those 15 seconds. Why not. Oh btw DDs die regardless, consumable not needed :)
@@yann9915 Hindenburg gets smacked by battleships because she has just enough armor to set off any BB AP round, not to mention she has terrible gun angles and not great DPM. Not to mention she is massive, lack radar and has torps that are more of a joke than anything.
I dont think, this thing is so unbelievable broken. I mean look at the facts, you have 2k less HP then a Smoly, while you actually eat citadels like Mino and nearly don't produce Ricos and all without smoke like the other 2 mentioned before. Yes it has an insanely firepower while you use the reload boost, but in normal mode with 7sec reload ... not so much. So all in all, this thing will be worthless for 90 - 95% of the players, cause they don't know how to handle this Ship. It just seems so OP in the hands of realy good players. But with todays playerbase you will see this thing normaly blow up faster then you can say Hans get the Flammwerfer.
This Ship actually has weaknesses not like Smolensk or Thunderer, you have to have much skill and game knowledge + good positioning and good dds to make this work
I think the bad angles is due to these 5 inch guns having a much higher shell velocity (with them being 54 calibers long iirc compared to the 38 caliber length of the Atlanta's guns)
Which "bad angles"? Firing angles are great, and the ballistics as well ... for shooting DD and the side armour of ships at medium range. Only st00pid boring plunging fire at med-long range does not work, but that is obviously not what this ship is about ...
Wargaming: Austin is going to have only 1 charge of reload booster, but it's an improved one After 2 minutes of testing: 1 is not enough, let's make them UNLIMITED Good Idea
Ensign: "Captain, we have a enemy Battleship ahead" Captain: "Press the delete-enemy-button ensign" XO: "Haha, SAP guns go brrrrrrr" Battleship deleted
@@ainumahtar his video about the austin is the first video he blame WG but for other reasons flambass did. in his opinion the ship is to bad for avg players, watch it.
And this is why WG no longer gives you guys test ships to show one stream; you play ONE game and start: this is op, this is shit, this is average.... FFS, play 20 games and then post your conclusions ...
"How is this balanced?" Well, it's not. It's an Atlanta with no radar for the most of the game, but then it can be 4 Atlantas every once in a while when you need it to be. Not sure if it's really that OP, because it's frail and situational.
thoughts: #1 WG has an interest in mouse production. If this boat won't kill your mouse (and the finger joints), nothing will #2 Moskva: 50K damage suffered in about 20 secs, no citadel #3 Thunderer: 40K damage suffered in 15 secs, again, no citadel. Just like 100 hits in 15 secs.
To those wondering why Austin ballistics seem to be balanced AF, lets compare it to a cousin -- Colbert. Both are 127mm smokeless AA cruisers, only one is inherently better then the other. Colbert -- 808m/s muzzle, 32.5kg shell, 0.3079 drag. Austin -- 808m/s, 31.75kg *0.21* drag So yeah, Austin has literally 1/2 drag value of Colbert, meaning shell retain speed much better and as such has shell travel time almost the same as Smolensk.
Well "this is balance" because you have managed to live long enough to utilize the reload booster and not suicided on 4th minute like your typical 48% Joe. The best damage output was reached on 2 broadsiding ships within 10 km, until then the damages was shit.
@@benjiro8793 And? On that distance Worcester/Mino/Smolensk would have dealt similar amount of damage to a broadsiding target. The smoke is not an argument, because this ship has no smoke. People whine about thundere because it is a HE spamming BB with insane firing range and good accuracy. In Austin, if you misposition yourself - you will die in a second. So stop judging ships after on video with a unicum player utilizing its strengths.
7:20 "Aw fuck. Mistakes have been made..." How many players have had this feeling before? I am guessing most if not all of us have said, "I fukt up there."
His Question at the end was basically answered at the same time he asked it. "How is this balanced?" while getting killed in the fourth salvo that actually really hit him. Not that that makes this a good ship design, but he was lucky as F he didn't get deleted by one of the first ap salvoes that were fired at him behind that first island. This will be one of those ships you can only play passively and hope that the enemy makes mistakes while you make none. Also, you will need a team that is good enough, because carrying in this will be almost impossible. (unless you can get early dds because they f..ed up.) Edit: Plus, this was a top tier battle.
@Flambass : What are that "bad angles" you are talking about? The only "angles" are the firing angles, and that means where the turrets can point the guns. What you mean is shell ballistics, and those are fine to shoot DDs at short to med range, and everything else that lets you target their side armour ... because SAP will happily pen the "magic" bow/stern armour, light cruiser armour, BBs upper belt armour, and arm through all of them ... so no overpens, just juicy penetration damage. Obviously, this ship is not an ATLANTA on steroids ... no med range HE spam to set them on fire ... and no shells shattering on the deck armour of the targets, because you won't hit deck armour.
You mentioned you couldn't get any targets to shoot at, well it is nice to see that even you have the same experience I have 90% of the matches I play. Every time I watch a video from the main youtubers, the enemy acts like their entire reason for being is to be shot by them and it is so frustrating to almost never have that happen when I play.
It's the fact the torpedoes have to clear the deck. Pointed that far forwards, the inboard tube can't really clear the torpedo that far forwards over the deck :P I don't mind the tubes having "not apex" clearance
This is what the game needs. Another glass cannon with no utility to the team. Also... I think it’s intentional MM. I have noticed anytime I load in with a ship specked to AA.., there is no CV. You can count on it.
When you opened up on that Moskva, you literally had your front guns reloaded the instant the rear ones fired. Proper "MG42, but it's a ship"-moment XD
10:11 67980 damage 13:05 189555 damage No torpedo hits, no citadels. In 2 minutes and 44 seconds he did 121575 damage that could effectively not be prevented. WG approved balance.
I believe at this point, all the tests are only conducted to see if there are bugs or glitches on the ship. Once it works 100%, they ditch the balance and slide it into the release queue.
"Unlimited number of charges for the "Main Battery Reload Booster" consumable and rather low survivability will form special "ragged" gameplay for the ship during the entire battle." DevBlog (11/30/20) The temptation to overextend and use that daka will be strong, especially as the gun angles and lack of radar make lobbing over islands from concealment untenable. It is balanced, just not in an orthodox way.
Now everyone will spend money to play the ship as soon as possible. Once the money stops coming in there will be a nerfand a year from now bigg nerf to reloder to make it useless. That's pretty much their business model.
It's not that bad to play against, the high velocity of the shells means you can't arc it over islands out of sight, in order to be melted like the moskva and Yamatos, you'd need to show broadside for the special AP, otherwise the damage drops off. Because you can't fire in safety, every second longer the engagement lasts, the more risky it is. With the light cruiser armor, you're a frontline glass cannon, once you start doing damage, people will focus fire your ship and melt you. You'd have to be really good at positioning, taking advantage of the enemy focusing on your team mates in order to use this ship to its full potential, even then, you'll spend more than most of the start hiding behind an island like Flambass did. While its guns have rapid fire and high velocity, ideal for killing destroyers, there's no radar which means you'd have to close in with hydro to force out DDs. Sounds like a fun cruiser with a high skill ceiling.
There was one of these on the other team the other day; I had heard about the Austin and wanted to see what it was like so I basically sacrificed my FdG to it. Yeah, it was not pleasant.
Good thing you can't just camp closely behind islands that well cause pushing into that with the reload booster active is a nightmare if you don't have a chance to hit it back.
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Wargaming logic: Now the player base won't complain about Smolensk
E X A C T L Y. But Smolensk has smoke.
@@guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248 don't give them any ideas
And they WHINE about HE spam.... Hold my beer!
Right until the nearest patch, when it will be nerfed.
@@jozefkovac6858 Nerfing a premium, that's funny.
Ship with full-auto 5 inch gun
*Now* *that's* *American*
Now Speak Russian Bias.
I cant agree more.
Also named after a city in Texas....
Ahahahahahha
@@UNSCrearadmiral It is Texas’ only hippie city, though...
That Moskva at the end: "wait, what happened?"
It took less that twenty seconds for him to complete melt a close to full health moskva😂 same for that JB at the end...
balance👌
poor bastard, lol. Balans.
It was me, you can be sure hahaha
@@matthewdouglas8368 tbh even a kleber could've killed him just as quick uasing ap at that range with reload booster
@@zorromontuno haha nice one, did your life flash before your eyes?? :))
at the start: "yeah the arc look pretty bad and armor seem garbarg what so good about it"
*activate reload booster*
"Mein gott"
higher muzzle velocity i guess?
@@jaywerner8415 which works fine to make it A) easier to hit DDs and B) more likely to hit sides of CC/BB above the belt at an almost perpendicular angle at range.
OMGott
Like Jingles says: Dont play wows if you dont have a sense of humor.
sense*
Or a masochistic trait
It's actually "if you can't take a joke". But yeah, essentially the same thing.
yup
I always thought of that more of wot. But with WG releasing stuff like this might as well be both!
friendly reminder: there will be more broken ship coming :)
Lmao yea DD players will have fun with Tiger 59, Druid and Vampire 2
@@randomtag7813 dont for get me. im weimar nice to meet you
Wait till you see Thunderer goes on sale for cash :-)
@@KC_88631 nah they will do a container eventually with only tier 9-10 premiums, including steel ships 😂 Stalingrad, Bourgogne go brrrrrr
@@randomtag7813 when the subs and Voss with those glider bombs come out everyone will shit themselves
WG: "Press the YEEHAW button to delete your enemy in 30 seconds or less"
the YEE YEE button
The yeet button
Well, that was filthy.
Can't wait for the upgraded version with smoke and radar.
You mean the glorious secret project Austovsky?
*read with rushki accent*
Every thirty seconds a comissar on the ship can tell the gunners to load faster or they will be sent to gulag. The gunners get so worked up that their sweat will evaporate on their skin, resulting automatically in a protecting steam cover cloud every time the comissar encourages them.
@@wombat4191 oh yes and don't forget when this "encouragement" skill is activated it gives a 75% reload boost which when operated in sync with the 75% reload booster the ship gets can decrease the reload to 0.5 seconds
Unfortunately we found that in testing, trying to activate these two in sync requires some brain power to achieve, so we decided to make it easier by buffing the encouragement skill so that is instantly ends the cooldown on all other consumables while the encouragement consumable is active
Additionally austovsky comes with a 14 km stealth radar that lasts for 35 seconds
However with the activation of the "encouragement" consumable this can be increased to the entire map, meaning you are capable of spotting the entire enemy team at once
To balance this the encouragement consumable has a *very* long cooldown period of....... 30 seconds :)
meaning for 30 seconds you are actually a not capable of single handedly defeating the entire enemy team and will need find ways to work around this significant draw back.
@@matthewdouglas8368 Please dont give them any ideas :-/
So an American that's the lovechild of a Frenchie and italiano that does their unique perks better?
Nah it's American sap not Italian sap... Italian sap has way better pen
@@breezyyeezy8858 The pen on this thing is more than enough to make it OP though. Moskva is almost impossible to pen for light cruisers and DDs, and you just saw Austin basically delete it in 15 seconds.
@@matthewevans6502 yeah yeah that's true just imagine it got Italian pen🤯
French reload booster is given to all non french ships now... Austin (usn), hyuga (IJN), zf6 (german)
@@breezyyeezy8858 It might if you keep giving them the idea of it...
harugumo: "No ship shoots as fast as me!"
austin: "Hold my beer..."
austin : what about faster ?
Austin only shoot faster sometimes. Hog is just flat out dumb reload
Not sure what you mean, Austin reload is about 3x slower than Harugumo. Even Des Moines has faster reload. It's only fast during a few seconds with reload boost.
@@joca1378 I dont know what the range is but the ship seems situational like Flint/Atlanta.
You get that spot and that match your a god. Like Sipan in an all t6 match. MM gives you all T10 then you charge and get it over with lol.
If a div take a US DD and this then yea its gona be nasty
It's what i wish the woooooster was
WG: You like Harugomo ? You like Atlanta ? You like HE and SAP spamming ? Say no more
Playerbase: But we want you to balan...
WG: *I SAID SAY NO MORE !*
I actually love how both Gaijin and Wargaming are hated by their communities
Lol
well, they are russians...
@@murhapuro86 well, BattleState is somewhat loved
@@murhapuro86 *coughbethesdacougheacoughubisoftcoughriotcoughblizzard*
Every game company is hated by its company tbh. Riot, Steam, Gaijin, wargaming, EA... It's always like that.
Well, we were unhappy about CVs having unlimited planes...
WG: UNLIMITED RELOAD!
I don't get why people think CVs have unlimited planes. They regenerate a plane every 1-2 minutes for each squad, that's a best-case scenario of a plane every thirty seconds, or 40 planes by the end of the game.
@@Sky_Guy it's possible to shoot down close to 100 planes in a good game. Just look at Flambass' last video.
But you're right, CVs can get de-planed, just takes a lot of effort.
@@shaun138 It's possible to shoot down so many because the fighter consumable on squadrons drops 3/5/7 planes that instantly die to AA, which skews the numbers.
@@Sky_Guy They used to regenerate NONE, making suicide strikes with no care in the world a very stupid and costly decision.
Now FDG, Mannfred and the likes can decide to just kill you with little care in the world, even if they have to wait 5 minutes to get the planes back...
@@Chrinik Right but, like, a well-placed Midway torp strike could _1-shot any ship in the game._ surely that was a worse system?
WG: we're taking our time with the italian BB and SAP.
Making it "balanced" with horrible reload and shell size and logic
Also WG: we're gonna release another SAP ship but with the most consumables and broken balistics
Just compare this to Minotaur:
+ lower citadel, reload booster
-no smoke/radar, no superheal, 12 k less Hp, 243k SAP Dpm compared to 600k AP Dpm, much worse torpedo power
I don't really see why would you want to play this ship...
@@lukasvtipil9951 Because with 75% reload booster that 243k SAP Dpm turns into 972 SAP Dpm? And you have unlimited charges. Also, SAP has more pen than mino AP. No Mino can ever do what he did to that Moskva and JB in that short of a time.
@@janniszimbalski6652 yes but Mino can do that in like 25s
@@janniszimbalski6652 and not being useless for 2 minutes after
and some of the wackiest Dispersion i've ever seen. Seriously, the Ita BB's will put out (from one 2x1) shells at a 45 degree angle from each other at POINT BLANK RANGE. The barrels don't even move sideways, how the FUCK are the shells coming out at 45 degrees??????
the Yamato 'blam' timing is too perfect
Austin represents plans for CL-154 to 159. Basically an upscaled Oakland subclass variant of the Atlanta class; They were intended as a stop-gap measure to fill the CLAA role until the problems with Worcester's guns were sorted out. They were approved, but cancelled before they were named and were going to mount longer barrel, higher velocity, auto-loading 5" 54 calibre guns instead of the 5" 38 calibre found on the Atlanta and Oakland class cruisers. That's why the ballistic arcs are so flat compared to the other US 127mm guns. Austin's barrels are over 40% longer.
Though the listed stats in-game show the initial muzzle velocity as nearly identical. 808 m/s on Austin compared to 792 m/s on Atlanta.
In those 15 seconds with reload booster you dealt 40k to that moskva... And the Venezia needs 21 secs reload to be balanced
Venezia reload is currently 21 secs....
@@heatplays6270 yeah, that's what I meant
@@nonaccettanullah301 Ahh gotcha, sry
@@heatplays6270 np
8:19 "If only I had Vision"
Plot of WandaVision in a nutshell
"You didn't see Moskva! You didn't! You didn't! Because it's not there!"
That game...not great, not terrible.
Hey, I was there :(
1.6 reload - not great, not terrible XD
@@grlt23 1.6 sec reload on a cruiser? The gunners are delusional. Take them to the infirmary!
@@zorromontuno sorry for you mate!! The game is going to be more terrible then I thought.. 🥺
The one time a Thunderer pushes up, and he gets in your way.
You know the game is in a bad state when you look at this ship and think "hmmm well this isnt the MOST broken thing ive seen...."
I don't play world of warships, but do watch Flambass for the memes - and this looks like some kind of an April's fool joke XD
if u see something like this video, we do all right - no more wows again!
Don't worry. At this rate, no one is going to be playing World of Warships soon enough.
-First they'll stop playing tier X because of all the broken ships that will be released that you can buy to give you a clear cut advantage.
-Then they'll stop playing Tier VII because Wargaming will see that no one is playing X and will release OP Tier VII's because that's what tier everyone is playing in
-Then that pattern will repeat for Tiers IV and I respectively. Imagine them putting OP premium TIER I's into the game. That'll be fun for the novelty alone.
-Finally, no one will want to play their stupid game anymore because no matter what tier you pick you'll only have two choices: play for free and lose, or pay for premium ships and stand a chance of winning. And anyone who's honest with themselves will tell you: the only people who play pay to win games and have fun are the people who drop six digits on the damn things. If you aren't willing to do that, you're just roleplaying as a bitch AI for those types of people to smash into the ground.
And, when that inevitably happens, I highly recommend giving Warframe a go. It's techno ninjas in space, not WWII ship combat, but the game's always been free to play and the devs have never been the type to promote pay to win (and the game's been around for 10+ years.) Hell, hardly anyone even plays the PVP in Warframe.
Austin, Gearing and Friesland together would be the most broken division ever
Austin, Smâland + Friesland - would be way more broken :D
3 Austins moving close enough and dropping hundreds of shells per minute...
@@MrYodolf Very true, although USS Black would be even worse. Radar and smoke.
3 Vampire 2 are worse than any combination ever,,, better DPM than smaland and crawling smoke and 5 km hydro
@@cosminlesutan3574 Austin, Radar Mino and Gearing. thank me later
Funny is, Trenlass said in his vid Austin can't do anything to Russian cruiser because of 50mm deck, Flambass.....hold my beer.
See: Broadsiding Moskva
@@danh7411 broadside or not, Flambass still have to shoot the superstructure to deal dmg. It is the superstructure mechanic that is flawed
@@knt3140 at that range if the Moskva is angled to him, he would have taken much less damage
@@knt3140 Nope, the SAP can penetrate and arm through upper belt and that magic bow/stern armour just fine.
@@memyshelfandeye318 I'm not sure I get your idea (yet),but I believe Austin's SAP only have 38mm pen, no? That couldn't have pen Moskva's upper belt which is 50mm. Stern and bow are 25mm, sure, but everyone will probably agree with me that hitting those places is not easy at all (Petro have enormous 25mm bow, use that info however you want) and they are not consistent sources of dmg. Also we can see very clear in the vid that those shells hit almost exclusively superstructure, cuz Flambass intentionally aimed for that part
almost everyone else saying how worthless this ship is, but our potato master says the otherwise
It's the ultimate feast or famine ship, Flambass got to feast this time but next game he'll be on Mountain Range or some other map with garbo island waifus and bow on enemies who'll blap him like the T10 Atlanta he is.
he was useless all game until he found a broadside cruiser sitting still
@@bladeclanhalo3 and a destroyer that live long enough to give him smoke, which is uncommon in random. But this ship sure will excel in a good division
Like Notser, seriously his video was basically "i am not comfortable with this ship", I SAID THIS SHIP WOULD BE TERRIFYING AND IT IS!
To be fair, he seems to laugh most about the DMG output (when you can apply it) rather than the ship as a whole. I think the amount of CD based gimmicks and insande damage output we see on the Austin will pop up far more in the future. They don't throw the frog in the boiling water.
According to Wargamming's precise calculations, the spreadsheets show this ship is balanced.
It weighs the same in tbe front as in the back.
"I really dont see what the problem isss--HOLY SHIT"
You didn't even mention the insane dispersion. Those shells coming out of double turrets looked like a single shell, that's how close they were.
See: Cruiser icon
@@danh7411 cruiser icon does not mean a 1 to 1 cruiser dispersion pattern, which is fucking stupid but shit like Petro Exists and has slightly bad dispersion but omega kek pen.
@@diabolicespurr yea, while stuff like Zao has DD dispersion, Tallin and the RU CAs has BB level of dispersion
@@danh7411 essentially yes
10:15 Flambass does 40k damage in the course of 15 seconds lol
Edit: 12:15 and then he does it again 2 minutes later LMAO
Wanna see me erase a ship?
Wanna see me do it again?
Meanwhile, the free tier 10 Hindenburg will pull off a nice 5-10k HE salvo to a bb in those 15 seconds xD perfectly fine and balanced as all this should be. Give this ship an island or smoke and everything will die in those 15 seconds. Why not. Oh btw DDs die regardless, consumable not needed :)
@@yann9915 comparing ships like that is stupid, might as well say that a BB would do 60k dmg in less than 15 sec
@@wrrrarghh784 im comparing using dps, not terribly stupid :p
@@yann9915 Hindenburg gets smacked by battleships because she has just enough armor to set off any BB AP round, not to mention she has terrible gun angles and not great DPM.
Not to mention she is massive, lack radar and has torps that are more of a joke than anything.
I love being tier 5 and being up tiered to 7 consistently and being unable to penetrate any ship 🙂thank you wargaming
WOWs community: Smolensk is op
WOWS Devs: OK, we won't do anything about it. Also, here's Austin🙃
Maybe it's a new strategy to deflect accusation of Russian bias: Give the US equally ridiculous ships
10:15 his damage skyrocketed faster than a 4 perma fire GK...
yea, the DPM once he gets to shoot is fucking disgusting.
"if he get to shoot"
I dont think, this thing is so unbelievable broken. I mean look at the facts, you have 2k less HP then a Smoly, while you actually eat citadels like Mino and nearly don't produce Ricos and all without smoke like the other 2 mentioned before.
Yes it has an insanely firepower while you use the reload boost, but in normal mode with 7sec reload ... not so much.
So all in all, this thing will be worthless for 90 - 95% of the players, cause they don't know how to handle this Ship. It just seems so OP in the hands of realy good players. But with todays playerbase you will see this thing normaly blow up faster then you can say Hans get the Flammwerfer.
yes, that's true, this ship is very situational
You are so brave sticking to this shitshow of a game...
F for Flambass
His nickname is literally "I'd rather be playing Tarkov". Thing is - he plays games for a living... and nobody watched Tarkov games.
@ Tarkov is fun to play. It's not really fun to watch
@ Lots of people watch tarkov, it's just not the same audience as wows.
@@BawdyBadger Tarkov is really fun to play and watch, its just not half his audience. I love tarkov personally
Austin,Plymouth and FDR ultimate steel ship division
The fook, even Harugomo can't deal that much damage over such a short period of time.
yes but only in 15s, then Austin has less SAP DPM than any CL's HE DPM
Haragumo has smoke, no citadel and much lower concealment. (Granted it does not have heal)
@@Sissorski op wasn't comparing them overall. He's just talking about damage output
@@Sissorski No heal, no def AA, no hydro. and instead of harugumo's trash AP you have SAP. like what.
This Ship actually has weaknesses not like Smolensk or Thunderer, you have to have much skill and game knowledge + good positioning and good dds to make this work
Situational a f it seems. But then again, put it in a div with a long smoke DD and those situations will be a hell of a lot more common...
Austin is literally Rambo with the M60. WG is like you think that's insane "but I ain't done yet"
Need to get Halsey’s proc going on that thing, super fucking spicy
I think the bad angles is due to these 5 inch guns having a much higher shell velocity (with them being 54 calibers long iirc compared to the 38 caliber length of the Atlanta's guns)
Which "bad angles"? Firing angles are great, and the ballistics as well ... for shooting DD and the side armour of ships at medium range.
Only st00pid boring plunging fire at med-long range does not work, but that is obviously not what this ship is about ...
7:49 perfect timing lmao
epic & funny moment soon?
Wargaming: Austin is going to have only 1 charge of reload booster, but it's an improved one
After 2 minutes of testing: 1 is not enough, let's make them UNLIMITED
Good Idea
Ensign: "Captain, we have a enemy Battleship ahead"
Captain: "Press the delete-enemy-button ensign"
XO: "Haha, SAP guns go brrrrrrr"
Battleship deleted
10:17 "lets see how fast can i....." I like how he stops mid sentence and his eyes bulge out when he sees it.
Seems war gaming took don't mess with Texas to heart with the Austin ship.
The thing is, only the Top 1% can make this ship work. All others will have bad experience, like Notser said.
Could notser actually make himself be understood, being as deep in WG's asshole as he is?
@@ainumahtar his video about the austin is the first video he blame WG but for other reasons flambass did. in his opinion the ship is to bad for avg players, watch it.
This whole thing should be blurred, that was disgusting. :D
WG: "How man consumables do you want?"
Austin: "yes"
You can tell who are good players if they think this thing is broken or not
Wg: Well, playerbase won't be complaining about smolensk anymore...
Which side are you? Most unicums in SEA already agreed that Austin is very situational, she can be OP but only for 15s
I mean, its basically the strongest ship for 15 seconds if you're within a 12 km range or so , unless you're something like a Kremlin.
@@Alex-hy9cw It has good dispersion and ballistics, it will be murder even at longer ranges.
@@Alex-hy9cw not really, Austin is very squishy and if you can angle well, you mitigate most of his damage
It makes me happy to see you actually enjoying yourself.
Lol that Thunderer 🤣
Too many potatoes these days it’s crazy 🤯
And this is why WG no longer gives you guys test ships to show one stream; you play ONE game and start: this is op, this is shit, this is average....
FFS, play 20 games and then post your conclusions ...
Austin: exists in 10km on my side
me, as a moskva main playing moskva: GET THIS SHIT OUT OF MEEEEEE!!!
The stupidity of that thunderer that blocked you is why aliens won't talk to us, but worse, why WG doesn't care about its player base.
Notser uploaded a video with some Austin gameplay, guess what, no CV either.
you have to div up with a cv to get one in a AA ship
Also he said that austin is nothing like in this video
I have Austin and played in a few CV matches with it. The AA is very strong when Def AA is up. An FDR decided to stay away, it was that bad.
LOL I am the Moskva in the enemy team and I found myself on youtube. I remember I've asked in chat ¿¿what the hell is THAT SHIP??
*Reads title*
What have they done now?
10:15
Random crew member Is a machin gun!
Flambass: Oh ok Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein!!
I mean...duh
But you do see this flood of Austin though
"How is this balanced?"
Well, it's not. It's an Atlanta with no radar for the most of the game, but then it can be 4 Atlantas every once in a while when you need it to be. Not sure if it's really that OP, because it's frail and situational.
imagine a triple div with this shit
thoughts:
#1 WG has an interest in mouse production. If this boat won't kill your mouse (and the finger joints), nothing will
#2 Moskva: 50K damage suffered in about 20 secs, no citadel
#3 Thunderer: 40K damage suffered in 15 secs, again, no citadel. Just like 100 hits in 15 secs.
lol, seen it in stream yesterday - wg gone nuts
To those wondering why Austin ballistics seem to be balanced AF, lets compare it to a cousin -- Colbert. Both are 127mm smokeless AA cruisers, only one is inherently better then the other.
Colbert -- 808m/s muzzle, 32.5kg shell, 0.3079 drag.
Austin -- 808m/s, 31.75kg *0.21* drag
So yeah, Austin has literally 1/2 drag value of Colbert, meaning shell retain speed much better and as such has shell travel time almost the same as Smolensk.
Balans gonna balans comrade! Brrrrrrr :D
The new graphics look good so that is nice. I really like to zoom around to see all the ship details on my teammates after I get killed by CV attacks.
Well "this is balance" because you have managed to live long enough to utilize the reload booster and not suicided on 4th minute like your typical 48% Joe. The best damage output was reached on 2 broadsiding ships within 10 km, until then the damages was shit.
@@benjiro8793 And? On that distance Worcester/Mino/Smolensk would have dealt similar amount of damage to a broadsiding target. The smoke is not an argument, because this ship has no smoke. People whine about thundere because it is a HE spamming BB with insane firing range and good accuracy. In Austin, if you misposition yourself - you will die in a second. So stop judging ships after on video with a unicum player utilizing its strengths.
7:20 "Aw fuck. Mistakes have been made..." How many players have had this feeling before? I am guessing most if not all of us have said, "I fukt up there."
Looks like I picked a good month to stop sniffing WoWs glue.
His Question at the end was basically answered at the same time he asked it. "How is this balanced?" while getting killed in the fourth salvo that actually really hit him. Not that that makes this a good ship design, but he was lucky as F he didn't get deleted by one of the first ap salvoes that were fired at him behind that first island. This will be one of those ships you can only play passively and hope that the enemy makes mistakes while you make none. Also, you will need a team that is good enough, because carrying in this will be almost impossible. (unless you can get early dds because they f..ed up.)
Edit: Plus, this was a top tier battle.
Man i quit this game after 4 years...best thing i ever did!
3 years but same. Fuckijg bullshit game
@Flambass : What are that "bad angles" you are talking about? The only "angles" are the firing angles, and that means where the turrets can point the guns.
What you mean is shell ballistics, and those are fine to shoot DDs at short to med range, and everything else that lets you target their side armour ... because SAP will happily pen the "magic" bow/stern armour, light cruiser armour, BBs upper belt armour, and arm through all of them ... so no overpens, just juicy penetration damage.
Obviously, this ship is not an ATLANTA on steroids ... no med range HE spam to set them on fire ... and no shells shattering on the deck armour of the targets, because you won't hit deck armour.
This channel turned into such a nest of negativity lately.
Imagine 2 Austins + 1 Mino or 1 Minos + 1 Austin + 1 Smolensk
DAMN WG what have you done here again, that's fucking insane
Or any American smoke DD to provide smoke cover and spotting.
@@Sombody123 they just have to take turns firing.. you would have one spotting without shooting..
You mentioned you couldn't get any targets to shoot at, well it is nice to see that even you have the same experience I have 90% of the matches I play. Every time I watch a video from the main youtubers, the enemy acts like their entire reason for being is to be shot by them and it is so frustrating to almost never have that happen when I play.
Very funny Flambass. The Tier 11 arms race has begun.
It's the fact the torpedoes have to clear the deck. Pointed that far forwards, the inboard tube can't really clear the torpedo that far forwards over the deck :P
I don't mind the tubes having "not apex" clearance
This is what the game needs. Another glass cannon with no utility to the team.
Also... I think it’s intentional MM. I have noticed anytime I load in with a ship specked to AA.., there is no CV. You can count on it.
When you opened up on that Moskva, you literally had your front guns reloaded the instant the rear ones fired. Proper "MG42, but it's a ship"-moment XD
10:11 67980 damage
13:05 189555 damage
No torpedo hits, no citadels.
In 2 minutes and 44 seconds he did 121575 damage that could effectively not be prevented. WG approved balance.
This is terrifying can confirm. Found myself head to head with one in a zao, melted within 15 seconds.
I believe at this point, all the tests are only conducted to see if there are bugs or glitches on the ship. Once it works 100%, they ditch the balance and slide it into the release queue.
It looked like the side anti air turrets were rotating with respect to where you were aiming the main guns. That normal?
that guy at 6:00 is really the archetype of the typical Thunderer player, isn't he?
"Unlimited number of charges for the "Main Battery Reload Booster" consumable and rather low survivability will form special "ragged" gameplay for the ship during the entire battle." DevBlog (11/30/20)
The temptation to overextend and use that daka will be strong, especially as the gun angles and lack of radar make lobbing over islands from concealment untenable.
It is balanced, just not in an orthodox way.
Now everyone will spend money to play the ship as soon as possible. Once the money stops coming in there will be a nerfand a year from now bigg nerf to reloder to make it useless. That's pretty much their business model.
It's not that bad to play against, the high velocity of the shells means you can't arc it over islands out of sight, in order to be melted like the moskva and Yamatos, you'd need to show broadside for the special AP, otherwise the damage drops off. Because you can't fire in safety, every second longer the engagement lasts, the more risky it is. With the light cruiser armor, you're a frontline glass cannon, once you start doing damage, people will focus fire your ship and melt you. You'd have to be really good at positioning, taking advantage of the enemy focusing on your team mates in order to use this ship to its full potential, even then, you'll spend more than most of the start hiding behind an island like Flambass did. While its guns have rapid fire and high velocity, ideal for killing destroyers, there's no radar which means you'd have to close in with hydro to force out DDs. Sounds like a fun cruiser with a high skill ceiling.
What the french toast did i just watched!?!?!? That's like an MG 42 on steroids.
@Flambass PLEASE DO PLAY IT in a 3 man division! Just to see what happens. I bet half of the shells won't even render. :D
There was one of these on the other team the other day; I had heard about the Austin and wanted to see what it was like so I basically sacrificed my FdG to it. Yeah, it was not pleasant.
I keep coming back to this video because I love the human version of flambass, he's so helpless!
Good thing you can't just camp closely behind islands that well cause pushing into that with the reload booster active is a nightmare if you don't have a chance to hit it back.
Ridiculous would be the understatement of the century. I guess it's hidden behind a serious pay wall. Regarding how nuts this thing is.
It provides 10 salvos @ reload booster @1.5 seconds each. 1500 dmg each
It is so fast, the front turret started firing its second round as the rear turret started firing its first round.
Austin before reload boost: meh alright
Austin after reload boost: DEATH MACHINE GOES BRRRRRRR
When you hit the reload booster I smiled
I last played May the 29th 2020. What have I missed?
So is he still in the cc program ? Seeing and hearing what he says about the ship
Moskva had a "NANI?!" moment there..