Basically, but it has more competition than belfast. Belfast t7 is one of the only radars at that tier. But in plymouth you have to worry about ships such as des moines, stalingrad and petro.
I just bought this ship, and was struggling to find a lot of good commentary on it. First thing I do when I open RUclips? See Flambass say it's pretty good. :)
Flambass, that was the best game I've ever seen you play. You were uber analytical throughout. Amazing decisions. Deftly played fragile boat and tense gameplay the entire video. Well done Captain.
Thanks for this vid, Flambass. I really like the look of the Edinburgh and Fiji, really beautiful ships, and seeing the Plymouth made me want her too. Great to see a good vid showing how to play her to her strengths. Going to save up all my steel for her, and start practicing and gitting guud in my Edinburgh.
Everytime I regrind UK CLs I catch myself thinking what a beast Fiji is and somewhat Edinburgh as well (and then feel pain with Neptune until the redemption of Mino lol)
made 2 vids on her and am making a 3rd right now(248k, 7 kills). like you, i also have no idea why the general reaction has been so meh, but i kinda relish feeling like im in on an almost secret ship! ;) As long as the MM works for you(no CV) and you keep tabs on the location of enemy radar ships, she is god-tier! Tankier than the mino, more maneuverable(if a bit slower), and the ability to radar almost as soon as youre spotted, makes her the best DD hunter in the game if nothing else.
"The general reaction has been so meh," is because the vocal minority are predominantly the DD mafia or Reddit trolls who want to keep the game in their stagnant pirate's of the caribbean state. Any player who plays the game knows Plymouth is competitive in a reasonable sense. DDs just can't dunk on it like they do everything else.
I just got the steel for Plymouth and it's exactly what it looks like: an Edinburgh on steroids. My Minotaur captain and same consumable load-out as Mino and it feels really familiar. It's ships like this where the player base doesn't help; a Steel/Prem ship that isn't overpowered and everyone says it's underwhelming. Which is why we will have to put up with the Austin cancer that will be the new Smole cancer.
Ps needs a lot of love to it, barely any ships and battleships are horrendous to play on it. Even fully leveled. It's basically destroyer and cruiser only game
I wish there was a way for an average player to test these out. I have steel that I could use to buy this or Austin, but... I won't buy neither. I don't know if those ships will suit me and knowing that there are a few T10 premium DDs in the development, I won't risk buying a steel ship that I might not even enjoy, when there is a DD coming out that I will enjoy. (I am a DD main, I play mostly DDs, but I also play a lot of Cruisers, just not as much as DDs.) I already made a huge mistake buying Stalingrad, I didn't enjoy it, even though it looked like such a no brainer to buy. Yet it rusts away in my port and then FDR came out, which I really wanted, but had no steel for, since I spent it on Stalingrad...
Those BBs have much HP to spare and even late in the game they still don’t have balls to push. I once div with such player, several games of me trying to encourage him to push and improve positioning, I realized I couldn’t fix him so we go on our ways.
meanwhile I'm just there with my (no heals) 15k hp Tirpitz seeing another half hp tirpitz, a Hipper, and an almost dead Massa going "Yeah I've got HP". sure i died but it's the thought that counts yeah? and i guess the dead Massa and Hipper counts too
@@Mthammere2010 That’s why it’s unreasonable to stay healthy to the end when they can turn the game around. Some people play like they need HP for the next match.
@@reyhan5324 If that means it wins you the game or at least a flank then good job. (1 for 2 is good trade nonetheless especially for a low HP BB) It’s about thinking ahead of what we could achieve by using remaining HP and hope that our teammates cooperate or understand then follow through. Sometimes it’s worth going all in or sometimes it’s wise to just stay alive (if possible) for the team to win.
If I get in the neighborhood, steel-wise anytime in the foreseeable future, I find myself thinking Plymouth is up for consideration. I do tend to consider myself a BB main, though, so... I might just have to try and encourage a lively debate between Flambass and Trenlass to tell me if I should buy Bourgogne or Shiki. ;)
get a certain amount of heroic achievements (confederate, high caliber, kraken, solo warrior I think) it's like 30 or something? you can only get it once
My latest theory is that Wargaming introduced the Deadeye atrocity intentionally, and fully aware of the consequences, as a distraction from their most important goal behind the captain skill rework - squeezing players for money. Currently, Deadeye is all everybody is talking about. The only thing everybody cares about is when this godawful camping meta will finally end. Meanwhile, the money squeeze is going largely unnoticed, no outrage, nobody is making that an issue. WG wins. Again.
@@j_ro _I_ haven't spent money in _two years._ But WG's strategy is geared toward extracting as much money as possible from less jaded new players while they are still prepared to open their wallets before eventually getting too frustrated and leaving the game or stopping to spend. That is the whole reason they keep dumbing down the game ever more. Here's a small measure of the ongoing spending: recruiters get a percentage of cash purchases made by their recruits, which is passed on to them in the form of doubloons. *In February alone,* Flamu recently claimed on his stream, he received *1.1 million doubloons* this way. And I wager people spend a good chunk of it on Free XP conversions or anything else they think helps speed up the levelling of captains.
The problem that people have with the Austin is that with no armor, no smoke, and a citadel made of matchsticks soaked in gasoline in tends to have pretty short games.
@@HyperScorpio8688 I remember in the naval legends Belfast video they said it would've had 4 barrels, but was reduced to 3. I imagine the wiki page for the town class would mention it.
@@danswain6870 There is nothing on the wiki page, I already checked EDIT: It is hidden, but there is a reference, the page does mention the plans for the Edinburgh subclass to have had quadruple turrets but the idea ws very quickly shelved (kinda like the Midway-class having their originally intended 8" armaments in the name of weight saving)
It's an Edinburgh with quad turrets as Edinburgh and Belfast were both originally planned to have quads instead of triples but they never worked. The Neptune was planned to have a semi-automatic turret like the Des moines and Worcester classes while the Minotaur and upcoming tier 8 Tiger class have fully automatic turrets. Small gun armed cruisers like the Atlanta/Flint, Smolensk, Colbert and Austin are still manual guns but because of the smaller shells can fire much faster (though fictional buffing for Colbert to allow it to be tier 10) while the Austin's mk18 guns have a dual feed system allowing it's burst fire capability in game were in reality it was a single gun turret which allowed a ROF of 40 rpm.
The new line of power creep ships are out I see.... Wargaming Cycle Create new over powered ships-----------SELL SELL SELL--------Nerf New overpowered ships to look good to wargaming community like they "CARE"-------------create new over powered ships------------SELL SELL SELL-------------Nerf New overpowered ships to look good to wargaming community like they "CARE"---------laugh all the way to bank at the fact you purposely create a problem, nerf it, then create the same problem again and your customers fall for it so easily.
@@vladprud8760 who cares Of gun sounds I am OK with yamato gun sound. Dude he spent Steel for that thing it's really hard to earn those resources in the game really I am new player and I am getting 40 steel per day.
I need a new clan too! My NA clan is dead. Anyone reading this who is in an active "Clan Battles" NA Clan looking for recruits, look me up please. I shared my account for awhile, back in the day, with my 13 year old son. I wasn't thinking at the time but, he dumpstered most of my stats. I've been slowly bringing it back up. I have a 51% W/R, 1.4k avg/XP, 40k+ avg/dmg with 119 krakens and most ships sunk in a battle: 10... I really do need a better clan and Flambass just got me to thinking that this may be the most effective way to do just that. See you out there! 🇺🇸
I totally disagree, this ship is really bad against russian cruisers...... these days you have a lot of russian cruiser in T10 games, so you basically have no chance against them....... absolutely no recomendation..... save your steel for a other ship.........
Whenever you see a cruiser do more damage on a bad salvo than your BB on a good salvo... only to see it reload six times faster. :'O
smolesnk AP in a nutshell
@@xpercade8926 and with radar to boot
tier 10 Belfast
if your good salvo is 8k on BB, you are doing smthng wrong. Its not even cita DMG
Flambass: "With a radar and a smoke there's no way for it to be a bad ship...."
WeeGee: "hold my beer" *releases Tiger 59*
HahahahhaahhaHhahahahahahahahah 😂😂😂
Worst ship in wows
So, this is a tier X Belfast, with everything that made the Belfast OP at tier 7?
No HE though
@@pomeboat If you do 6-10k per volley on a BB, you don't need HE
Basically, but it has more competition than belfast. Belfast t7 is one of the only radars at that tier. But in plymouth you have to worry about ships such as des moines, stalingrad and petro.
@@uwuthanizeme5462 Atlanta was the first T7 ship with Radar.
@@BladeKi11a i know that, but my point is that there is substantially less radar at t7 compared to t10.
I just bought this ship, and was struggling to find a lot of good commentary on it. First thing I do when I open RUclips? See Flambass say it's pretty good. :)
Ditto, got the Steel for it on Sunday, perfect timing really. Plays exactly like Edinburgh, just with radar and smoke but without the super heal.
Really there's almost no decent review videos on Plymouth and it's literally the only steel ship I want
@@sargisshirinyan207 if u like mino stile ur gonna like it
I used to own a 1962 Plymouth. Wish I still had it.
🤣🤣🤣 that z46 made my day, it was hilarious
GG man, nice mastering of CL playstyle 👍
Flambass, that was the best game I've ever seen you play. You were uber analytical throughout. Amazing decisions. Deftly played fragile boat and tense gameplay the entire video. Well done Captain.
with guys like the thunderer and amagi in the end you have just no chance when they going more and more away from the center of the game xD
05:10 "It's a trap" - Admiral Ackbar
Thanks for this vid, Flambass. I really like the look of the Edinburgh and Fiji, really beautiful ships, and seeing the Plymouth made me want her too. Great to see a good vid showing how to play her to her strengths. Going to save up all my steel for her, and start practicing and gitting guud in my Edinburgh.
Everytime I regrind UK CLs I catch myself thinking what a beast Fiji is and somewhat Edinburgh as well (and then feel pain with Neptune until the redemption of Mino lol)
3:44 consumable mayhem
As always, a plaesure to watch you play ^^
made 2 vids on her and am making a 3rd right now(248k, 7 kills). like you, i also have no idea why the general reaction has been so meh, but i kinda relish feeling like im in on an almost secret ship! ;) As long as the MM works for you(no CV) and you keep tabs on the location of enemy radar ships, she is god-tier! Tankier than the mino, more maneuverable(if a bit slower), and the ability to radar almost as soon as youre spotted, makes her the best DD hunter in the game if nothing else.
"The general reaction has been so meh," is because the vocal minority are predominantly the DD mafia or Reddit trolls who want to keep the game in their stagnant pirate's of the caribbean state.
Any player who plays the game knows Plymouth is competitive in a reasonable sense. DDs just can't dunk on it like they do everything else.
and is good thing many player underestimate Plymouth Lol. and they more interested in austin.
Those last two BB's are true hero's, holding themselves in reserve to stop Xur and the Kodan or something :)
19:54
That aged like old milk
Tiger 59 is absolute trash tier and had radar and smoke
8:33 He hit you right in the aft-end section :)
Watch him getting kicked from CC program next
What do u mean?
@@hubertziokowski172 Flamu
You kidding, Flambass reactions sells ships. I think Flamu got back into the CC program because WG gave him access to a bunch of in released ships.
The Edin, even when uptiered at T10, is still good. Give it 4 more guns and a radar, then its amazing.
Holy flip that’s a lot of consumables.
radar, hydro, smoke, heal, torps.... maybe give it cv plane squadrons to complete it
That Z-23 - massive facepalm.
You should have more subs, your the man at WOW
Another Radar smoke ship ... yea boy... impressive WG said its a bad combination and wont add something like that again but here we go
I just got the steel for Plymouth and it's exactly what it looks like: an Edinburgh on steroids. My Minotaur captain and same consumable load-out as Mino and it feels really familiar.
It's ships like this where the player base doesn't help; a Steel/Prem ship that isn't overpowered and everyone says it's underwhelming. Which is why we will have to put up with the Austin cancer that will be the new Smole cancer.
Ps needs a lot of love to it, barely any ships and battleships are horrendous to play on it. Even fully leveled. It's basically destroyer and cruiser only game
What's the achievement you get with high caliber? I don't recognize the design
I wish there was a way for an average player to test these out. I have steel that I could use to buy this or Austin, but... I won't buy neither. I don't know if those ships will suit me and knowing that there are a few T10 premium DDs in the development, I won't risk buying a steel ship that I might not even enjoy, when there is a DD coming out that I will enjoy. (I am a DD main, I play mostly DDs, but I also play a lot of Cruisers, just not as much as DDs.) I already made a huge mistake buying Stalingrad, I didn't enjoy it, even though it looked like such a no brainer to buy. Yet it rusts away in my port and then FDR came out, which I really wanted, but had no steel for, since I spent it on Stalingrad...
Those secondaries might be worth speccing into
Would you get the Stalingrad first ?
Those BBs have much HP to spare and even late in the game they still don’t have balls to push.
I once div with such player, several games of me trying to encourage him to push and improve positioning, I realized I couldn’t fix him so we go on our ways.
meanwhile I'm just there with my (no heals) 15k hp Tirpitz seeing another half hp tirpitz, a Hipper, and an almost dead Massa going "Yeah I've got HP". sure i died but it's the thought that counts yeah? and i guess the dead Massa and Hipper counts too
Saving health no longer saves money in world of warships. Been that way for the past 4 years.
@@Mthammere2010 That’s why it’s unreasonable to stay healthy to the end when they can turn the game around.
Some people play like they need HP for the next match.
@@reyhan5324 If that means it wins you the game or at least a flank then good job. (1 for 2 is good trade nonetheless especially for a low HP BB)
It’s about thinking ahead of what we could achieve by using remaining HP and hope that our teammates cooperate or understand then follow through.
Sometimes it’s worth going all in or sometimes it’s wise to just stay alive (if possible) for the team to win.
G fucking G dude. Really doing British cruisers justice whenever I see you in them
you are always welcome back too play in Xtrem
good vid. I love my plymoth. though i respectfully disagree on anchorage.
If I get in the neighborhood, steel-wise anytime in the foreseeable future, I find myself thinking Plymouth is up for consideration. I do tend to consider myself a BB main, though, so... I might just have to try and encourage a lively debate between Flambass and Trenlass to tell me if I should buy Bourgogne or Shiki. ;)
What steel ship should I buy when I get enough? I’m at 12k and I want input on what ship to buy
12:14 "Battle Hero" achievement is that new?!?!
Do u know anything about new free exp ships?
Pretty lucky young man ouns ultimate torque and horsepower.
12:14 So there's a new badge called "Battle Hero" huh? I wonder how you achieve that one....... any ideas/knowledge?
get a certain amount of heroic achievements (confederate, high caliber, kraken, solo warrior I think)
it's like 30 or something?
you can only get it once
Flambass I think BOBS is still recruiting!
I think Team Krado is also recruiting
So many options for flambino. But dunno if his german is good enough to Deal with krom
This thing is a model glass cannon. Bristling with guns, covered in tissue paper.
all british cruiser is glass canon
My latest theory is that Wargaming introduced the Deadeye atrocity intentionally, and fully aware of the consequences, as a distraction from their most important goal behind the captain skill rework - squeezing players for money. Currently, Deadeye is all everybody is talking about. The only thing everybody cares about is when this godawful camping meta will finally end. Meanwhile, the money squeeze is going largely unnoticed, no outrage, nobody is making that an issue. WG wins. Again.
cant wait for premium submarines
Yep nobody has complained about the huge jump in commander XP for the 20th and 21st point which is widely disproportionate to any of the other levels.
have you spent money since the rework? i haven't. what are ppl spending money on?
@@j_ro if you didn't sort out all your captains before the end of the free period then resetting their skills costs money/gold....
@@j_ro _I_ haven't spent money in _two years._ But WG's strategy is geared toward extracting as much money as possible from less jaded new players while they are still prepared to open their wallets before eventually getting too frustrated and leaving the game or stopping to spend. That is the whole reason they keep dumbing down the game ever more.
Here's a small measure of the ongoing spending: recruiters get a percentage of cash purchases made by their recruits, which is passed on to them in the form of doubloons. *In February alone,* Flamu recently claimed on his stream, he received *1.1 million doubloons* this way. And I wager people spend a good chunk of it on Free XP conversions or anything else they think helps speed up the levelling of captains.
Try the Asia Server and see what happens when you shoot in smoke..LOL
The problem that people have with the Austin is that with no armor, no smoke, and a citadel made of matchsticks soaked in gasoline in tends to have pretty short games.
Is fun and good but as a first steel ships is better to grab a Stalingrad, a Bourgogne or a Shikishima maybe.
The Z running smoking and driving into the torp.
BRUH
Bro how do i get steel im on console i wont the montana
Looks like a super-charged radar Edin.
Is this a historical design? Since I never heard of the ship before
Yes and no. It was never built, but I think it might have been a design that the RN was looking at.
It was one of the original plans for the Town class light cruiser
@@danswain6870 Is there any references to that?
@@HyperScorpio8688 I remember in the naval legends Belfast video they said it would've had 4 barrels, but was reduced to 3. I imagine the wiki page for the town class would mention it.
@@danswain6870 There is nothing on the wiki page, I already checked
EDIT: It is hidden, but there is a reference, the page does mention the plans for the Edinburgh subclass to have had quadruple turrets but the idea ws very quickly shelved (kinda like the Midway-class having their originally intended 8" armaments in the name of weight saving)
Seems like a tier 10 of Neptune to be honest. With a radar.
It's an Edinburgh with quad turrets as Edinburgh and Belfast were both originally planned to have quads instead of triples but they never worked.
The Neptune was planned to have a semi-automatic turret like the Des moines and Worcester classes while the Minotaur and upcoming tier 8 Tiger class have fully automatic turrets.
Small gun armed cruisers like the Atlanta/Flint, Smolensk, Colbert and Austin are still manual guns but because of the smaller shells can fire much faster (though fictional buffing for Colbert to allow it to be tier 10) while the Austin's mk18 guns have a dual feed system allowing it's burst fire capability in game were in reality it was a single gun turret which allowed a ROF of 40 rpm.
Flambass is clanless?
He has a clan, but he uses different accounts for his streams.
Because he doesn't want the enemy to target him immediately.
kansas was a border hugger, gotta love the support.smh
why the hell you wouldn't get a cruiser with radar and smoke is beyond me
Hi
Hi
Ragnar or Plymouth?
Ive deleted plenty of Plymouth's, if its out of its smoke the armor is nothing more then paper. Not sure it worth Steel, coal maybe.
Another full HP Thunderer at the end of a game.
Basically a tier ten Belfast with torps, how can anyone say its bad????
its as good as it can be without being better than the mino if it had a super heal and mino fast smokes it would be
Super heal has 2 plus signs.
The new line of power creep ships are out I see....
Wargaming Cycle
Create new over powered ships-----------SELL SELL SELL--------Nerf New overpowered ships to look good to wargaming community like they "CARE"-------------create new over powered ships------------SELL SELL SELL-------------Nerf New overpowered ships to look good to wargaming community like they "CARE"---------laugh all the way to bank at the fact you purposely create a problem, nerf it, then create the same problem again and your customers fall for it so easily.
Holy shit plymouth is squishy
How to trigger people from the uk:
This ship isn't called "plimm myth", it's called "plai mouth"
It’s actually more like Pli-muhth.
that z made me laugh so hard lol
So annoyed with myself for spending my steel on Shikishima...
But the gun noise
@@vladprud8760 who cares Of gun sounds I am OK with yamato gun sound.
Dude he spent Steel for that thing it's really hard to earn those resources in the game really I am new player and I am getting 40 steel per day.
Most of the Thunderer players I met in-game have 0 skill and awareness.
monster game
Try the clan Zoo
the last radar was too soon...
I need a new clan too! My NA clan is dead. Anyone reading this who is in an active "Clan Battles" NA Clan looking for recruits, look me up please. I shared my account for awhile, back in the day, with my 13 year old son. I wasn't thinking at the time but, he dumpstered most of my stats. I've been slowly bringing it back up. I have a 51% W/R, 1.4k avg/XP, 40k+ avg/dmg with 119 krakens and most ships sunk in a battle: 10... I really do need a better clan and Flambass just got me to thinking that this may be the most effective way to do just that. See you out there! 🇺🇸
a ship with smoke+radar+hydro and 10km torps, and people call it "underwhelming" LMAO
Who the fuck is asking to look at this guy? :D
I totally disagree, this ship is really bad against russian cruisers...... these days you have a lot of russian cruiser in T10 games, so you basically have no chance against them....... absolutely no recomendation..... save your steel for a other ship.........
ITS BAD IF ITS NOT OP AS FUCK TO MOST PLAYERS THESE DAYS
Wargaming is the company who will say things are broken then sell the broken shit. Yeah
Abandon your simpleton boat!
Try living there. : /
fk steel ships, i aint gonna spend all my life playing this game to save 20k plus steel, let them rotten there
I don't understand the comments here saying this is a good ship. Its shit. What am I missing? I have never had a good game in her.
He supported you like an old bra.
That Kansas was fully predictable...just watching mini map. Kansas ruined your game
No sound
Make your own, I always do.
Hate these games adding 19 different types of currencies to get shit.
So annoying. Tryhards only.
This so-called "HMS PLYMOUTH" never existed. STOP THE FAKE SHIPS!! REMOVE THE MOST WORTHLESS FAKE FLEET (read: "Soviet"/Russian) FROM THE GAME!!!!
I have that ship. What a waist of time and steel it was. Absolut crap. That ship would be ok in tier 4 if there was no bb's in game