@@cavernman4739thats why they made the theatre but most players dont really have the requirements to participate hope they make better end game content after abyss the game just gets boring hope they make a endless mode
@@goh5301Indeed. A comment from Zyox's video sums IT perfectly: "IT is too restrictive for New player to have fun with, and too easy for Old Players / Whales to enjoy"
C4 Would be the actual game changer for this Team than C6. What makes the Run longer mostly was because I had to extend the Rotation to gain Furina's Stack with Her Stance Change, with C4 Gorou, I can immediately restart the rotation and skip Zhongli Q after Itto instead of going Furina > Zhongli > Gorou > Furina thus saving lot of times.
I think no, unless the Healer also provide something aside from Healing. His Res Shred is just too good to be removed in favor of Healer considering Geo resonance only affect Geo so Furina DPS would tank quite a lot. Tbh, C4 full Healing Garou + Stance Change Furina should be enough to justify the lack of proper Healer. Zhongli also act as CC (which Geo lack) and can also be used as Nuke instead of Shield Bot so there is that too.
@@cavernman4739 By ZL's CC you mean that his stellas can move enemies? By the way, I'm playing Noelle C6, Gorou C1, ZL C0 and Furina C1, without Exile set and Fav on Gorou and Furina this team struggles with ER lol I was thinking about replacing ZL with GMC but IDK, ZL is just too good And 4pc Archaic Petra seems lackluster in this team
@@jafaroffmusic7876That and the Petrification. Noelle doesn't generate any Particle so it's to be expected if the Team would struggle with ER if there is no Fav Holder especially without Quickswaps. Even with Itto, I sometimes need downtime if Furina ER is < 190 when I run Her without Fav lol In case you haven't aware, Zhongli Pillar can generate one Particle at fixed pace (i think it's simillar to Kokomi's Jellyfish) Though the Range is small, it can resonate with other Geo Construct (Ushi, GMC E & Q) thus increasing the range and helping the Team Energy.
@@jafaroffmusic7876Fellow Noelle enjoyer here , I use the same team, but with Chiori instead of ZL, and also with fav on Gorou. Never had ER problems. If you don't have Chiori, then Albedo, MC, Ningguang, or even the upcoming Kachina should be good. If you don't wanna switch out Zhong no matter what then use a fav on him too at least, and exile on Gorou.
I have tried Layla, and tbh kinda struggling with the first chamber Though that was with Sucrose, hasn't tried Kazuha yet. I might try Ganyu, and Charlotte thoughh idk. They're both about the same DPS wise. Only difference being Sucrose has more option with rotations, whereas Kazuha has more QoL in setup.
Kazuha Rosaria with Kazuha's Ice-infused Q is absolutely doable, but ping-dependant, strict by rotation and needs exact combo 😅 Though combo can be shortened for less pain. I would prefer Sucrose tho
@@cavernman4739 I was thinking that Layla + Sucrose would be easier 🤔 I didn't get her Cryo app at all, for some reason it goes very inconsistent for me
@@jafaroffmusic7876Yep, from my experience Layla + Sucrose is also easier, mainly because Sucrose is very flexible with rotations, so if one doesn't work well, I can just try others. The inconsistency is probably due to Her being projectile based and Shield mechanic. Her Q Cryo is simillar to Rosaria (1U every 2 Secs) but "slower" Because its projectile based with somewhat slow move speed and only hit one target. Her E has very good application but need a bit of Skill timing to not waste the Aura.
@@jafaroffmusic7876Yeah Kazuha + Rosaria is kinda ping reliant but I don't think they are Combo & Rotation strict tho, if anything Rosaria rotation is more flexible because She can remove pyro + add cryo with Her E which can't be done by others Cryo but Ganyu. I'd say Rosaria + Kazuha is simillar to non C6 Kaeya + Kazuha timing wise, but easier to control
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"3 Years, No skip dialogue stil... "
I can feel His pain through that text alone
Pain. Suffering. Agony.
Can this version of abyss end already 😢
Yeah, 1.5 month reset feels strecthed
@@cavernman4739thats why they made the theatre but most players dont really have the requirements to participate hope they make better end game content after abyss the game just gets boring hope they make a endless mode
if theyre gonna double the length of each abyss they should make it change every reset
@@goh5301Indeed.
A comment from Zyox's video sums IT perfectly:
"IT is too restrictive for New player to have fun with, and too easy for Old Players / Whales to enjoy"
5.0 abyss is going to be hell for f2p. Then you’ll want this version again
How..
HOOOOOWW YOUR DILUC IS SO STRONG
Itto on life support😆
I thought gorou was C6... C1 cought me of guard... If gorou was C6 the clear time will be much higher i suppose
C4 Would be the actual game changer for this Team than C6.
What makes the Run longer mostly was because I had to extend the Rotation to gain Furina's Stack with Her Stance Change, with C4 Gorou, I can immediately restart the rotation and skip Zhongli Q after Itto instead of going Furina > Zhongli > Gorou > Furina thus saving lot of times.
Do you think that team wide healer geo with favonus instead of zhongli in this team will be itto best team ?
I think no, unless the Healer also provide something aside from Healing.
His Res Shred is just too good to be removed in favor of Healer considering Geo resonance only affect Geo so Furina DPS would tank quite a lot.
Tbh, C4 full Healing Garou + Stance Change Furina should be enough to justify the lack of proper Healer.
Zhongli also act as CC (which Geo lack) and can also be used as Nuke instead of Shield Bot so there is that too.
@@cavernman4739 By ZL's CC you mean that his stellas can move enemies?
By the way, I'm playing Noelle C6, Gorou C1, ZL C0 and Furina C1, without Exile set and Fav on Gorou and Furina this team struggles with ER lol
I was thinking about replacing ZL with GMC but IDK, ZL is just too good
And 4pc Archaic Petra seems lackluster in this team
@@jafaroffmusic7876That and the Petrification.
Noelle doesn't generate any Particle so it's to be expected if the Team would struggle with ER if there is no Fav Holder especially without Quickswaps.
Even with Itto, I sometimes need downtime if Furina ER is < 190 when I run Her without Fav lol
In case you haven't aware, Zhongli Pillar can generate one Particle at fixed pace (i think it's simillar to Kokomi's Jellyfish)
Though the Range is small, it can resonate with other Geo Construct (Ushi, GMC E & Q) thus increasing the range and helping the Team Energy.
@@cavernman4739 Oof, didn't know that Itto's pet is a Geo construct too 😅 Very interesting, thank you
@@jafaroffmusic7876Fellow Noelle enjoyer here , I use the same team, but with Chiori instead of ZL, and also with fav on Gorou. Never had ER problems. If you don't have Chiori, then Albedo, MC, Ningguang, or even the upcoming Kachina should be good. If you don't wanna switch out Zhong no matter what then use a fav on him too at least, and exile on Gorou.
Would you also do one Diluc Melt with Layla, Ganyu or Charlotte?
Btw which one do you think is better for Rosaria? Kazuha or Sucrose?
I have tried Layla, and tbh kinda struggling with the first chamber
Though that was with Sucrose, hasn't tried Kazuha yet.
I might try Ganyu, and Charlotte thoughh idk.
They're both about the same DPS wise.
Only difference being Sucrose has more option with rotations, whereas Kazuha has more QoL in setup.
Kazuha Rosaria with Kazuha's Ice-infused Q is absolutely doable, but ping-dependant, strict by rotation and needs exact combo 😅 Though combo can be shortened for less pain. I would prefer Sucrose tho
@@cavernman4739 I was thinking that Layla + Sucrose would be easier 🤔 I didn't get her Cryo app at all, for some reason it goes very inconsistent for me
@@jafaroffmusic7876Yep, from my experience Layla + Sucrose is also easier, mainly because Sucrose is very flexible with rotations, so if one doesn't work well, I can just try others.
The inconsistency is probably due to Her being projectile based and Shield mechanic.
Her Q Cryo is simillar to Rosaria (1U every 2 Secs) but "slower" Because its projectile based with somewhat slow move speed and only hit one target.
Her E has very good application but need a bit of Skill timing to not waste the Aura.
@@jafaroffmusic7876Yeah Kazuha + Rosaria is kinda ping reliant but I don't think they are Combo & Rotation strict tho, if anything Rosaria rotation is more flexible because She can remove pyro + add cryo with Her E which can't be done by others Cryo but Ganyu.
I'd say Rosaria + Kazuha is simillar to non C6 Kaeya + Kazuha timing wise, but easier to control