great video ! especially coming back to retail after so many years , it's interesting to see where classes are at these days . can't wait for TWW :) . also , subbed !
Even if mages aren't nerfed they can't make oneshot without meteor and it's really hard to hit with meteor cause mage ccs are trash go away with the damage and frost and arcane specs have to cast everything which is impossible when every class has 4 instant ranged and spammable cc and the damage does not remove it and interupts..
Holy paladin can do way more damage, he missed around 30% damage to denounce, he should went with consecration build that will add A LOT of damage to denounce
Unholy bursting faster than frost, sub rogue the ultimate burst window spec bursting with flag full yolo one shot, with no stuns just max dmg was slower than fire mage that did no greater pyro normal pump that he could do at any given time...but dang the outlaw rogue spec that i call "the tickler" really tickled this one long ^^
@@blazehashirl268 So wait wait wait, your logic is, that all 3 mage, rogue, lock and hunters specs should always out dps all dps specs from all other classes? So every M+ group should be Rogue, mage, hunter as dps. All raids, except for one slot to bring respective buffs and utility, should be mage, rogue, hunter, lock? Make an actual case for it (if you can). Because only cold soup folks would defend this.
And people cry atm about ele shams being op? They are not OP, it's been a long time since they were decent to play, every now and then they get a buff but everyone complains and then the hammer comes in but classes like feral and rogue are forever broken and no one seems to care
@@HlghV0LTag3ya when I read feral broken for ages i realised this guy doesnt actually know anything himself and just goes of what he struggles against
Thanks swifty! Great video
legit was going to comment the same thing lol
"4 seconds is good, but 1 second is a lot faster". Thanks Snupy :D
Kill times for each spec:
[Spoilers]
0:49 Paladins
Ret: 3.39 / 3.93
Holy: 7.96
1:49 Warriors
Fury : 2.76 / 1.83
Arms: 4.38
2:58 Shamans
Elemental: 2.80 / 4.23
Enhancement: 4.29
3:50 Rogues
Sub: 5.67 / 5.82 / 5.01
Outlaw: 15.08
5:02 Hunters
Survival: 4.20 / 5.97
Marksman: 3.90
5:52 Mages (WINNER)
Fire: **1.35** / 4.82
Frost: 5.42
Arcane: 3.99 / 1.90
7:25 Evokers
Devastation: 5.92
Preservation: 11.33
8:07 Druids
Balance: 3.90
Feral: 6.34
8:54 Warlocks
Demo: 9.19 / 6.22
Destro: 8.50
9:58 Death Knights
Frost: 6.07
Unholy: 5.11
10:42 Priests
Shadow: 5.54
Holy: 15.02
Disc: 7.80
11:38 Monks
Windwalker: 3.67
11:51 Demon Hunters
Havoc: 1.83
what s0wc amd hero was the dh
whats the rotation for that havoc?
@@cc66bb44 gotta ask bdsfg on twitch!
Not all heroes wear capes. 🫡
i was holding back
Love your content
I believe you 😂
Surprising you're not banned again 😂
You tried to kill me and my friend yesterday in waking shore!
The god himself! Arent u playing arcane in tww? Or is fire the way to go now? 😂
The holy priest did better than the Outlaw rogue lmao 😂
Yeah rogue is giga cooked now
Prevoker also did better than Outlaw
But nice to see Magegod doing his thing here 😅
great video ! especially coming back to retail after so many years , it's interesting to see where classes are at these days . can't wait for TWW :) . also , subbed !
Those warriors are badass 😅
Everyone forgot this is prepatch.. Buff this nerf that. Nothing you see here is relevant it's just for entertainment
Mages will def get nerfed lol
Even if mages aren't nerfed they can't make oneshot without meteor and it's really hard to hit with meteor cause mage ccs are trash go away with the damage and frost and arcane specs have to cast everything which is impossible when every class has 4 instant ranged and spammable cc and the damage does not remove it and interupts..
That destro lock just gave all destro locks a bad name 😂
JAGGZ didn't want to come..... maybe he has some secret trick and doesn't want it to be nerfed xD
@@AlunethMaster bro just called him JAGGZ haha
@@AlunethMasterjust getting back into wow but that brother absolutely has secret tech he's not releasing just based off the streams I watch
8:11 see what?
ele seemed like it could be the fastest if you dont count the time to apply flameshock
Everyone has to build up all this shit and rogues are just like… fuck it send it!
see this is the shit I want to see
new version for the war within coming soon!
Combat rogue took longer to kill you than the holy pally by 50%
I guess hPally disc priest should be a viable combo :D
whats that nameplate addon? looks to clean!
my guy Aluneth/Magegod pumpin
I think dual weild frost is > 2h. Thoughts?
What is that spec for that fury warrior that did in 1.5 secs
Well, we know he did full stacked death wish
forgot the affli :(
vid would have ended before the kill :D
Second place? not bad! pog video as always
/pat
@@AlunethMaster kek. im super happy
The fact that sub rogue is only 2 seconds faster than a healer is a fucking massive cry for help lol
honestly lol .
Holy paladin can do way more damage, he missed around 30% damage to denounce, he should went with consecration build that will add A LOT of damage to denounce
You had different buffs on each try….
The best thing was legendary dragon mascot. No1 knows who that could be.
Any ideea what toy is that and how can I get it?
Unholy bursting faster than frost, sub rogue the ultimate burst window spec bursting with flag full yolo one shot, with no stuns just max dmg was slower than fire mage that did no greater pyro normal pump that he could do at any given time...but dang the outlaw rogue spec that i call "the tickler" really tickled this one long ^^
shut not DH ? is nerfed or o overpowered ?
Preservation has bigger burst than outlaw, nice 😊
So havoc still on throne like in dragonflight pre patch
played a cheese build for this 1 shot it wont work in real arena :D
Can we get a guide for feral pre-patch
And demon Hunter ?
Is feral good rn
No DH?
I WAS THERE (in chat, i'm dogshit at PvP sadly) 💞
got a sub
thank u sir
Snupy next time also combat log please, thanks for this :)
Disc Priest Better than outlaw rogue... Maybe the game Need a "Little" balance lol
dk won cuz he sent u to the grave
I miss resilience
I didn’t see assassination rogue just sub and outlaw. Was I mistaken?
Assass was after 1st rogue
Thank you! I don’t much care for flageration or whatever that bleed is called. I feel like assassin could have been much faster!
@@mexcellent227 Nope that was still sub. No assa in this video
bruh and these Blizzkies nerfed feral survivabiĺity again yesterday.
Fire Mage won
Outlaw Rogue lost
Feral without convoke? Lol kek
I wish retail didn’t suck 😫
magegod insane
no Bm ofc it would take the hole time of the video too kill something
Outlaw wasnt "burst" :D
Magegod ftw - a step above on his mage!
;)
So who won? 🤣
why no aff lock?
Lol stop it 😂
Outlaw 15 timers worse than Fury
DH Goated
Take a shot every time this mf says RUclips
Can anyone tell me how to open and burst as asassaassasasssaaaasssaassassassa nation rogue?
check out pikaboo
No BM Hunter? Lol
they're mega ass rn on beta
@@aaronchamp2620 I've seen and even played one myself.
The damage from KC is so nerfed against players it's absolutely ridiculous
is this just a wargame on beta?
You guys still cry about rogs or ?
I had an Ele 1shot today. Did like 1.3mio dmg in 1.5seconds 🤷
No one shot == buff sub rogue blizz please
Yes buff sub rogs. Other classes can kill in under 2 sec but u guys still cry about rogs is insane
Where’s evoker
Are you blind?
@@lordchikage9015 I found it fool
Destro Hard casting soulfire 😂😂 ok
Frost mages just aint doing it like i do 😎😂💖 greqt video though! ... As always 💖
A pure damage class that is not top dps is atrocious
you act like this has ever been WoWs design ever in the last 20 years
People have always had this dumbass notion that “all 3 of my specs are dps so I should always out dps any hybrid classes dps specs”
@@themysterybox1608 thinking other wise is a dumb ass notion
@@blazehashirl268 So wait wait wait, your logic is, that all 3 mage, rogue, lock and hunters specs should always out dps all dps specs from all other classes?
So every M+ group should be Rogue, mage, hunter as dps. All raids, except for one slot to bring respective buffs and utility, should be mage, rogue, hunter, lock?
Make an actual case for it (if you can). Because only cold soup folks would defend this.
@@themysterybox1608 So should a rogue out heal a boomkin or elemental shaman?
Ty for videos like that )) most interesting 😊❤
pvp dmg aint relevant lol
But hey ret damage got nerfed again hahaha. Well atleast our self heal might be on par with some fully dps classes now haha.
ret dmg is good, what do you mean
Rogue Is trash
buff sub rogue
Rogue doesn’t have to be s tier every xpac
@@JamsheedRPGgod sub rogue wasn't s tier dragonflight, so lets give it to them in TWW.
@@jacobsmith1544 rogue in general 1-3 specs is always s tier, rogue is allowed to be bad too chump
@@JamsheedRPGgod bro we are talking about sub rogue haha
@@JamsheedRPGgod rogue and sub rogue is a different thing. do you think priest and shadow priest are same too ?
And people cry atm about ele shams being op? They are not OP, it's been a long time since they were decent to play, every now and then they get a buff but everyone complains and then the hammer comes in but classes like feral and rogue are forever broken and no one seems to care
Preach
Feral forever broken? Wut?
@@HlghV0LTag3ya when I read feral broken for ages i realised this guy doesnt actually know anything himself and just goes of what he struggles against
Just because their burst is not nr1? Lol
they are op..