I always loved the Coronet body. My recently late older brother Bob was a total gear head. Had an early '70's 'Cuda. Wasn't satisfied, dropped a 440 6 pack in it. So many cars he had including a '36 Bentley roadster. A year ago fighting liver cancer, weak, his son bought a '68 Vette with the side pipes. Handed my bro the keys and my nephew spent the afternoon clinging to his seat. At the end my bro stopped at the start of his long drive, told his son "Your mother is gonna kill me" and he laid rubber right up to the garage. I miss him, he taught me how to work on cars. And we always talked warbirds. You would have loved him Greg.
Me and my father recently restored a 67, be prepared to make your own body panels if they need replaced. Nobody makes them. Turned out amazing. Gets compliments everywhere it goes.
The first car I can remember was a 318 66 Coronet 440 package with the bench seat just like the one in your video. As a kid I loved that car with my dad. Dad had to junk it as Ontario winters ate those cars. I cried.....it was our loyal beast to any adventure. Fishing trips, trips to relatives, that car was just to my young mind a magical beast where dad took me to saw the world .
My Dad bought a brand new '66 Coronet 440 in September of that year, light blue 318 four door; made a deal for $3,000, we walked up the street to the bank where he transferred the money from savings to checking, walked back to the dealership and drove the car off the showroom floor. I was hoping to talk him into a Charger but no joy there. I was 15 and had been driving the old car, a '59 Chevy winged road barge with three on the tree and manual steering, for a year on my learners permit. Driving the Coronet after learning on the Chevy was akin to moving from a Steerman biplane to a Learjet. I put a lot of miles on that car cruising the drag in Helena, Montana, such as it was back in the day. The only parts put in it were ball joints at about 60k, mileage was good for the day and it was a great highway car and Montana has a lot of highways. The Dodge ended up getting totalled in a wreck caused by a drunk driver in '72 while my squadron was deployed on USS Enterprise to the Tonkin Gulf, fortunately no one was hurt, but I sure missed that car. Returned from the cruise and bought a '65 Cutlass with the high compression 330 and Rochester 4-Jet, but that's another story. Thanks for the memories Greg!
When I graduated from college in 1967, my wife and I bought a 1966 Dodge Charger. I loved that car. It had 4 bucket seats and a full consol. We had to sell it when we had our third child, since it only had 4 seats. It had the 383 cid engine and although it wasn't a dragster, it was a great hiway car.
I have the same coronet, same drivetrain, and color. I've owned it for 51 years, now has a 1969 440 some performance upgrades, ran ,12.53 at 110 through the mufflers with slicks at the dragstrip.
Completely different car, but my first car, in 1978, was a CHP 1976 Coronet with a 440 Magnum and Carter Thermoquad carb. A real sleeper, as it was painted off-white and looked like a family car.
My grandfather had a ‘66 Newport. It’s a bit more of a pimp wagon than muscle car with the leather and power everything, but is also quite affordable and I imagine it’s easy to engine swap, it came with the 383. Good lookin cars.
One of my favorite B-bodies, one of my friends used to buy them with worn out Poly or Early LA and plop a low mileage 440/727 in there, sort it out, drive it a bit & flip it. Between two jobs and his RB's into B bodies side gig he made the down payment for his first house. 383 B engines are a hydraulic flat tappet cam engine- like most pre-mid 80's engines. Unfortunately, there are now major reliabillity issues across all older US car brands engines with this camshaft & lifter type- as Steve has mentioned it. Good Luck!
Ah, the '60s! I was really into MoPars back then, and very much liked watching the 383's at the drag strip. Can't remember how they were classified (at the strip) back then, but they usually did a number on the GM and Ford counterparts. In '67, I bought a Plymouth Barracuda Formula 'S' "fastback" (i.e., hatchback) - 273 cid V8, huge Carter 4-barrel, 4-speeed manual, 3:55, "Sure-Grip" (limited-slip) differential, etc. "Formula 'S' 'Cudas were rare at the time, and even more scarce, and likely expensive, now - and had little trouble dispatching Camaros and Firebirds in my class at the strip. That was a long time ago…
I picked up an 86 Mustang notch back with a V6 and a rusty 88GT from the junkyard. Smoothed all the GT guts underneath the coupe body, et voila, A stripped no option 5l 5 speed, 8.8 car. There were a ton of goid performance parts in the GT that came essentially for free. All in, I got it running driving, including the efi, for 4650 Canadian. Still doable....
As a 17-year old in the early fall of 1984, I hoped to make my first car a black on black '67 Coronet R/T. 440-4V with a TorqueFlite. Oh how I wanted that car! It sat behind a small repair garage on my route to the high school and taunted me twice every day. I didn't have the astronomical sale price of $2200, so asked my uncle for help. He knew something wasn't on the up and up when I described the car as "an old Dodge sedan." Uncle Sonny was nobody's fool and got the true nature of the car out of me, whereupon he said "you'll kill yourself in that kind of car and your mother would never forgive me." Knowing my foolish self at the time, he was probably right. The car of my dreams was gone before Thanksgiving.
If you say his name 3 times, he will show up and tell you how to rebuild your Mopar economically and efficiently... UNCLE TONY! UNCLE TONY! UNCLE TONY! (Uncle Tony's Garage here on YT for those that don't know )
The only time I think the 'not real' label has any validity is when people try to sell the car as an original. For me, given equal condition, I'd prefer to pay a discount price for a re-creation - but the seller should be honest about what it is.
I used to munch popcorn at ag-town California (Salinas, Prunedale, Watsonville, Gilroy, Modesto, et al) car shows watching the purists and the modders snipe at each other, lowkey damning with faint praise.
That's what it's all about. Originality and condition are half the value of the car. You can put one together to please your self but if you then try and pass it off on someone else as original your a lowlife cheat. Knowing what is right and real is important if you take the hobby seriously. Also the value of a car is established by it's judging results at shows and some good show results will help you get a better insurance valuation in case something bad happens to the car. (fire, theft or accident) I was once shown a car that had been moderately restored and as we went over the car I told them the things I saw which could be done to bring the car closer to original condition and this was for their benefit so they could enhance the value of the car. My brother thought I was being overly critical but the details I mentioned would increase it's value if attended to by a large amount.
@@keithstudly6071 "What is right and real?" 🤣 How about you just enjoy your own vehicle? Only tiny rods get lost in pointless minutiae, all the normally adjusted people simply groove to their rides. They honestly don't care what narrowminded recipe followers think. efit: Only complete LOSERS worry themselves about "value." Such silliness!
Where did I first run into mention of the color mauve? It was one of the standard colors in the 4 color lozenge camouflage scheme used on WWI German aircraft.
Any V8 B-body prior to 1973 will interchange any V8 (with the exception of the 426 Hemi) with just motor mount changes. So any LA, magnum, B or RB engines will fit with minimal difficulty. The transmissions are different between the big blocks and small blocks so a swap like this will require a different automatic transmission or bellhousing in a manual transmission. You certainly could use a 383 engine, but 440's are not difficult to find and the later 400 B engines are a bored-out 383, so they have the lower deck height and short stroke of the 383. The 400 engines are not powerhouses from the factory because they were saddled with primitive smog gear and very low compression. Because of the large bore size of the 400 engine it is a popular base for a stroker and bolt in kits to increase the displacement to 470 ci are readily available, and it is possible to get 500 ci out of the 400 block. Additionally, much better heads than the original stock items are available. A B engine (383 or 400) with aftermarket aluminum heads, intake manifold, and aluminum water pump assembly actually weighs a few pounds less than an all-iron A engine. My choice for an engine for this Coronet would be a 400-based 470 B engine stroker with some good aluminum heads (the Indy 240s would be ideal), compression around 10.5:1 would work for pump premium, a mild hydraulic roller cam, 68-70 HP exhaust manifolds or possibly high-quality coated or stainless steel headers (I don't like cheap leaky headers), 727 torqueflite auto with about a 2200-2500 stall converter, and a 3.23 sure grip axle. I would dress and paint the engine as a mid 60s 383. Very few people could detect the 470 stroker as the external dimensions and fittings would be identical to a 383. With good heads even a mild cam will give 1 HP/cubic inch, or 470ish HP. This would run away and hide from a similar Coronet with a 426 Hemi at a small fraction of the cost, and have good idle characteristics and driveability. If that's not enough a cam with a bit of lumpy idle could get the HP to over 500. For me, I would want to ensure I had enough manifold vacuum (say 16 inHg minimum) for power brakes. I have used a hemi grind flat tappet cam in a 440 with no PB issues at all. A big stroker engine will pull more vacuum than a smaller engine with any given cam, so the 470 stroker would allow a hotter cam than a 383 and give similar idle/low end drivability. If this was my car my plan for it would be exactly as stated here.
That's a solid plan. It's not exactly how I would do it but that's the beauty of this type of car. It's just a Coronet 440, not a special version and you can do whatever you want with it without felling any pressure to preserve the originality too much. I really hope someone picks it up and revives it.
I must be a weirdo but I think originality of 60s cars is the best way to go and not all the upgrading. When was the last time anyone saw a mustang with a straight 6.
A guy that worked at a local Walgreens tried to sell me his 1971 Satellite with a 440 in it for 10k. The body was in fair condition. I have no idea where the 440 came from or what exactly was done to it but it had headers and a lopey cam. No idea why I didn’t get it.
For sure it is restorable. Cars from this era need everything. Unfortunately, the ACTUAL cost to restore far exceeds the price to purchase a far better or restored car.
When I see these Coronet's I think "Police Special". If I was to do a restore on a sedan I would try and get as many of the police special options as possible. Make a 'sleeper'.
Cute car. A 383 would indeed fit well in there, and a 440 would be even better if you can find one, they are getting harder to find. It will need a new transmission, an 8.75 rear, beefier torsion bars, and the correct sway bar. If you want something more practical from Mopar, I would go with a C body. Much better built, inside and out, easier to work on the big block due to the wider body, more room inside, better stability at speed, much lower initial cost, but a bit less acceleration. Resale value will also be lower than a B body, but if you plan on holding on to the car, that does not matter.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles My favorite C body is 67 or 68 Chrysler 300, so I expect your video to involve these! Two door better. I have two Imperials, as you may know. A bit on the heavy side, but much better built and much better suited for going fast on the open road.
I agree wholeheartedly, a real sleeper, and has that classic Dodge Super Stock look. IMO waaaay better looking than the Satellite, Road Runner of slightly later years. Plus, it hasn't been the 1st choice for all these hideous Resto-Mod fad-sters. A lot of nice Cudas and Challengers cut up and uglied-up by youngsters with no taste or respect for the golden era of American Muscle cars.
I always loved the Coronet body. My recently late older brother Bob was a total gear head. Had an early '70's 'Cuda. Wasn't satisfied, dropped a 440 6 pack in it. So many cars he had including a '36 Bentley roadster.
A year ago fighting liver cancer, weak, his son bought a '68 Vette with the side pipes. Handed my bro the keys and my nephew spent the afternoon clinging to his seat. At the end my bro stopped at the start of his long drive, told his son "Your mother is gonna kill me" and he laid rubber right up to the garage. I miss him, he taught me how to work on cars. And we always talked warbirds. You would have loved him Greg.
Sorry for your loss. Sounds like he was a legend. 🙏
Thanks donberry. Good post, your brother sounds like he was quite a great guy.
Sounds like a good man and true, you were lucky to know him.
Me and my father recently restored a 67, be prepared to make your own body panels if they need replaced. Nobody makes them. Turned out amazing. Gets compliments everywhere it goes.
The first car I can remember was a 318 66 Coronet 440 package with the bench seat just like the one in your video. As a kid I loved that car with my dad. Dad had to junk it as Ontario winters ate those cars. I cried.....it was our loyal beast to any adventure. Fishing trips, trips to relatives, that car was just to my young mind a magical beast where dad took me to saw the world .
My Dad bought a brand new '66 Coronet 440 in September of that year, light blue 318 four door; made a deal for $3,000, we walked up the street to the bank where he transferred the money from savings to checking, walked back to the dealership and drove the car off the showroom floor. I was hoping to talk him into a Charger but no joy there. I was 15 and had been driving the old car, a '59 Chevy winged road barge with three on the tree and manual steering, for a year on my learners permit. Driving the Coronet after learning on the Chevy was akin to moving from a Steerman biplane to a Learjet. I put a lot of miles on that car cruising the drag in Helena, Montana, such as it was back in the day. The only parts put in it were ball joints at about 60k, mileage was good for the day and it was a great highway car and Montana has a lot of highways. The Dodge ended up getting totalled in a wreck caused by a drunk driver in '72 while my squadron was deployed on USS Enterprise to the Tonkin Gulf, fortunately no one was hurt, but I sure missed that car. Returned from the cruise and bought a '65 Cutlass with the high compression 330 and Rochester 4-Jet, but that's another story. Thanks for the memories Greg!
When I graduated from college in 1967, my wife and I bought a 1966 Dodge Charger. I loved that car. It had 4 bucket seats and a full consol. We had to sell it when we had our third child, since it only had 4 seats. It had the 383 cid engine and although it wasn't a dragster, it was a great hiway car.
You are correct Greg. 😊
I would keep that color on the car. When it was new that color popped on those huge billboards.😮👍🏻
I have the same coronet, same drivetrain, and color. I've owned it for 51 years, now has a 1969 440 some performance upgrades, ran ,12.53 at 110 through the mufflers with slicks at the dragstrip.
Wow, that's smokin fast.
My dear old Dad had a Coronet for a while. It had a V-8 and a three-on-the-tree which made for a highly amusing ride.
Completely different car, but my first car, in 1978, was a CHP 1976 Coronet with a 440 Magnum and Carter Thermoquad carb. A real sleeper, as it was painted off-white and looked like a family car.
About time the '66 Coronet got some love. I'll take a 2-door 383 automatic, though a clean 318 would tempt me.
My grandfather had a ‘66 Newport. It’s a bit more of a pimp wagon than muscle car with the leather and power everything, but is also quite affordable and I imagine it’s easy to engine swap, it came with the 383. Good lookin cars.
You are going to like the next video, going up within the hour.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobilesRoger, looking forward to it.
One of my favorite B-bodies, one of my friends used to buy them with worn out Poly or Early LA and plop a low mileage 440/727 in there, sort it out, drive it a bit & flip it. Between two jobs and his RB's into B bodies side gig he made the down payment for his first house.
383 B engines are a hydraulic flat tappet cam engine- like most pre-mid 80's engines.
Unfortunately, there are now major reliabillity issues across all older US car brands engines with this camshaft & lifter type- as Steve has mentioned it.
Good Luck!
Ah, the '60s! I was really into MoPars back then, and very much liked watching the 383's at the drag strip. Can't remember how they were classified (at the strip) back then, but they usually did a number on the GM and Ford counterparts. In '67, I bought a Plymouth Barracuda Formula 'S' "fastback" (i.e., hatchback) - 273 cid V8, huge Carter 4-barrel, 4-speeed manual, 3:55, "Sure-Grip" (limited-slip) differential, etc. "Formula 'S' 'Cudas were rare at the time, and even more scarce, and likely expensive, now - and had little trouble dispatching Camaros and Firebirds in my class at the strip. That was a long time ago…
Wow...those were cars. Iconic cars😊
I picked up an 86 Mustang notch back with a V6 and a rusty 88GT from the junkyard. Smoothed all the GT guts underneath the coupe body, et voila, A stripped no option 5l 5 speed, 8.8 car. There were a ton of goid performance parts in the GT that came essentially for free. All in, I got it running driving, including the efi, for 4650 Canadian. Still doable....
I've never been a Mopar guy, but the mid 60's have a great look.
Thanks Greg
My best friend had one when i was in HS. White w/black int.
As a 17-year old in the early fall of 1984, I hoped to make my first car a black on black '67 Coronet R/T. 440-4V with a TorqueFlite. Oh how I wanted that car! It sat behind a small repair garage on my route to the high school and taunted me twice every day. I didn't have the astronomical sale price of $2200, so asked my uncle for help. He knew something wasn't on the up and up when I described the car as "an old Dodge sedan." Uncle Sonny was nobody's fool and got the true nature of the car out of me, whereupon he said "you'll kill yourself in that kind of car and your mother would never forgive me." Knowing my foolish self at the time, he was probably right. The car of my dreams was gone before Thanksgiving.
I think the '66 Coronet's front end is one of my fave ones--after the 1970 Coronet of course! Wouldn't mind having a 4-dr example...
If you say his name 3 times, he will show up and tell you how to rebuild your Mopar economically and efficiently... UNCLE TONY! UNCLE TONY! UNCLE TONY!
(Uncle Tony's Garage here on YT for those that don't know )
My Dad had a friend that was a Dodge dealer so we had an assortment of 60’s Dodge cars.
The only time I think the 'not real' label has any validity is when people try to sell the car as an original. For me, given equal condition, I'd prefer to pay a discount price for a re-creation - but the seller should be honest about what it is.
As you are checking these things out, you may get a kick out of "no kill car shelter" in philly
66' 500, 440,727 , 30 over, 2800 stall conv. 2 94 posi. champagne with a white hat, that was mine💥👍🤠Dodge❣️
Car show people can be snobs weather it be American or European cars
You got that right.
I used to munch popcorn at ag-town California (Salinas, Prunedale, Watsonville, Gilroy, Modesto, et al) car shows watching the purists and the modders snipe at each other, lowkey damning with faint praise.
That's what it's all about. Originality and condition are half the value of the car. You can put one together to please your self but if you then try and pass it off on someone else as original your a lowlife cheat. Knowing what is right and real is important if you take the hobby seriously. Also the value of a car is established by it's judging results at shows and some good show results will help you get a better insurance valuation in case something bad happens to the car. (fire, theft or accident) I was once shown a car that had been moderately restored and as we went over the car I told them the things I saw which could be done to bring the car closer to original condition and this was for their benefit so they could enhance the value of the car. My brother thought I was being overly critical but the details I mentioned would increase it's value if attended to by a large amount.
@@keithstudly6071 "What is right and real?" 🤣
How about you just enjoy your own vehicle? Only tiny rods get lost in pointless minutiae, all the normally adjusted people simply groove to their rides. They honestly don't care what narrowminded recipe followers think.
efit: Only complete LOSERS worry themselves about "value." Such silliness!
My dad's first car was a 66 coronet with a 383. I think he said he gave it to his cousin when she got her license and it ended up catching on fire
Where did I first run into mention of the color mauve? It was one of the standard colors in the 4 color lozenge camouflage scheme used on WWI German aircraft.
They had women dying the fabric.
I'd love to go back in time and sit in on the marketing meeting where they came up with '440' and '500'. I have a theory on the reasoning.
$5k USD...I wasn't even close!
Any V8 B-body prior to 1973 will interchange any V8 (with the exception of the 426 Hemi) with just motor mount changes. So any LA, magnum, B or RB engines will fit with minimal difficulty. The transmissions are different between the big blocks and small blocks so a swap like this will require a different automatic transmission or bellhousing in a manual transmission. You certainly could use a 383 engine, but 440's are not difficult to find and the later 400 B engines are a bored-out 383, so they have the lower deck height and short stroke of the 383. The 400 engines are not powerhouses from the factory because they were saddled with primitive smog gear and very low compression. Because of the large bore size of the 400 engine it is a popular base for a stroker and bolt in kits to increase the displacement to 470 ci are readily available, and it is possible to get 500 ci out of the 400 block. Additionally, much better heads than the original stock items are available. A B engine (383 or 400) with aftermarket aluminum heads, intake manifold, and aluminum water pump assembly actually weighs a few pounds less than an all-iron A engine.
My choice for an engine for this Coronet would be a 400-based 470 B engine stroker with some good aluminum heads (the Indy 240s would be ideal), compression around 10.5:1 would work for pump premium, a mild hydraulic roller cam, 68-70 HP exhaust manifolds or possibly high-quality coated or stainless steel headers (I don't like cheap leaky headers), 727 torqueflite auto with about a 2200-2500 stall converter, and a 3.23 sure grip axle. I would dress and paint the engine as a mid 60s 383. Very few people could detect the 470 stroker as the external dimensions and fittings would be identical to a 383. With good heads even a mild cam will give 1 HP/cubic inch, or 470ish HP. This would run away and hide from a similar Coronet with a 426 Hemi at a small fraction of the cost, and have good idle characteristics and driveability. If that's not enough a cam with a bit of lumpy idle could get the HP to over 500. For me, I would want to ensure I had enough manifold vacuum (say 16 inHg minimum) for power brakes. I have used a hemi grind flat tappet cam in a 440 with no PB issues at all. A big stroker engine will pull more vacuum than a smaller engine with any given cam, so the 470 stroker would allow a hotter cam than a 383 and give similar idle/low end drivability.
If this was my car my plan for it would be exactly as stated here.
That's a solid plan. It's not exactly how I would do it but that's the beauty of this type of car. It's just a Coronet 440, not a special version and you can do whatever you want with it without felling any pressure to preserve the originality too much. I really hope someone picks it up and revives it.
I must be a weirdo but I think originality of 60s cars is the best way to go and not all the upgrading. When was the last time anyone saw a mustang with a straight 6.
A guy that worked at a local Walgreens tried to sell me his 1971 Satellite with a 440 in it for 10k. The body was in fair condition. I have no idea where the 440 came from or what exactly was done to it but it had headers and a lopey cam. No idea why I didn’t get it.
For sure it is restorable. Cars from this era need everything. Unfortunately, the ACTUAL cost to restore far exceeds the price to purchase a far better or restored car.
A proper Land barge.
Oh yeah, wait until the next video, going up in a few mins.
When I see these Coronet's I think "Police Special". If I was to do a restore on a sedan I would try and get as many of the police special options as possible. Make a 'sleeper'.
Here in Australia 70's cars are expensive.
As long as they are a V8.
They aren't making any more old cars.
You better buy a classic car, NOW.
I really think you should hook up with Uncle Tony! for this kind of content.
I really don't think so. I like him, but I don't see any collaborative possibilities.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles :)
Cute car. A 383 would indeed fit well in there, and a 440 would be even better if you can find one, they are getting harder to find. It will need a new transmission, an 8.75 rear, beefier torsion bars, and the correct sway bar. If you want something more practical from Mopar, I would go with a C body. Much better built, inside and out, easier to work on the big block due to the wider body, more room inside, better stability at speed, much lower initial cost, but a bit less acceleration. Resale value will also be lower than a B body, but if you plan on holding on to the car, that does not matter.
OK Demitri, just for you I'll put up a video of a C body. Give me about 20 mins.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles My favorite C body is 67 or 68 Chrysler 300, so I expect your video to involve these! Two door better. I have two Imperials, as you may know. A bit on the heavy side, but much better built and much better suited for going fast on the open road.
I agree wholeheartedly, a real sleeper, and has that classic Dodge Super Stock look. IMO waaaay better looking than the Satellite, Road Runner of slightly later years. Plus, it hasn't been the 1st choice for all these hideous Resto-Mod fad-sters. A lot of nice Cudas and Challengers cut up and uglied-up by youngsters with no taste or respect for the golden era of American Muscle cars.
Somebody tell that photographer it's not cool to sit on a hood.... 🧐
You would have let her sit wherever she wanted.
LS swap the damn thing and install a Ford 9" rear end, purists gotta love it.
That's Horrible.
Thanks Greg