Once Human Beta: Prime War DISASTER and How To Improve It!
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- How has your experience been with the Prime War in Once Human?
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Once Human Beta: Prime War DISASTER and How To Improve It! by MattyGorm
00:00 - Intro
01:02 - How To Participate In The Prime War
01:47 - How Does The Prime War Work?
02:46 - What Went Wrong?
03:33 - Suggestions
05:03 - Prime War Gameplay
14:36 - Closing Thoughts
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Have you tried the Prime War event yet? How has it been for you?
Yes we did 6x
35/40 and we did it..
We cleared every prime on the map excluding the "master" difficulty ones, just place foundations around the boss, and have everyone throw mollys each boss took about 10 minutes, used ZERO missiles. Also helps to use the BBQ gloves for faster fire ticks, the burn ticks were well over 1k for everyone that was throwing them, kinda making missles feel completely useless only doing 45k
We just trap the boss with a decent sized arena of foundations around the direct spawn point. Did all 4 for the week fairly quickly...each took 10-20 mins to setup and that's probably way more than you need if you already have your player recruitment, and everyone has mollies/ammo/equipment ready (no missiles). You can test the spawn point by just starting the event and letting it fail, have some observers in the area all around the site to note where the spawn starts. A discord server helps so you can have one or two people directing, not everyone has to talk but if everyone can listen it really makes a difference.
LOL i was there and built that building. We did it again after the cooldown and got it down pretty quick, but lost in the end, the boss destroying the building before we can rebuild. It mostly takes an hour to prep because of the resources needed to build everything in t3 structures. Usually if i build the base for Primal, i tend to bring about 3-4k bricks 1-2k steel, some mats for a generator and few turrets since mobs will spawn on the objective. But, the issue is bringing enough for the base and foundation spam on top of extra materials for rebuilding walls to protect the objective. I tried raising the foundations for the objective in this build, but it didn't help for the main base, its better to keep it as low to the ground as possible since the boss usually doesn't target foundations, but for this boss it end up hitting them as collateral. I'll probably do another later on once i've farmed up materials again
Came to see how other servers had been going with the primes now we've got them... arguably down. Took me way too long of half watching to realise this was not another server 😅
Learnt a lot in the past few days though, with one or two discoveries trickling in between the lag.
They do indeed cap at 40, but only once started. Apparently level cap kicks in too though i havn't confirmed that personally.
They seem to have patched it so the boss reliably spawns on the silver pile, so we've started building a base there, a base on point and some anarchy between.
Molly's are still working great but don't actually stack per person, so spamming is a waste. However switching to a weapon for some reason reduces the dmg of your burn tic.
Ravenous hunter in particular actually has a mechanic at 5% health with that immunity, he'll summon a giant missile in the sky that we're not sure if we can dps check that wipes out most nearby structures. This whole attack and immunity phase takes most of the time you get for a dps check so try to hit it near the end of one.
He tends to phases through walls sometimes if the lag is particularly bad, though spreading people out between spawn base and point base helps.
Missiles work to the point of being spammable if the lags not too bad, and boy is it satisfying when they do. The shooter should be seeing tics of 45kish damage if they're working so take it slow unless you're seeing the damage hit
All in all i love the experience these have the potential to be, and the way the server comes together for them. Have high hopes for them in the future but if they can't get it working like this they'll need to adjust the actual gameplay loop of the experience. A less strong shield and more actual health maybe? 'cause it all comes down a very short period of actual dps, and whether things bug out in that small time frame. Which i've noticed, because everyone's simultaneously switching out to prepare for DPS seems to be a consistent issue.
The big issue is the amount of investment required with such a large potential to lose it all to 5 seconds of bugging out over a 10-20 minute fight, can be really disheartening especially when contributions sometimes come very disproportionately from people. Less calling out the leeches more sympathizing with those who consistently carry with materials, people on that server putting hours of their own time in for all of us
Big love to starlight B from idiot B
Prime Wars right now, are terrible, even if you do it right. It needs to be shifted and even the PvP Warband vs Warband needs to be improved. I've completed about 10-12 different prime wars and it's one of the most boring events to do it correctly. Let alone the lag and other glitchy things that happen. It's funny to see how your server does it. The two hours is not the building. The building only takes 15-20 minutes. However you need to farm SO MUCH Premium fuel it stacks up to like 2 hours.
Yeah I can see the premium fuel farming taking a while! If the game were to launch in its current state, I'd definitely want Prime War to be fully removed until it's fixed. Let's hope they can make some major improvements before launch!
just build stairs next to the pillar you need to defend, the stairs need to be up high 1 wall to the limit, then place a platform on top where the pillar is. Then, start the warprime and kill all air units ,since they are the only ones who can destroy the stairs, and let the walkers or minions on the ground destroy the pillar, wait for coldown to reset the boss, then the pillar will spawn on top of the platform you built and the boss will not be able to destroy it, finally start again and kill the Boss you have 30 min. btw use molotovs only, they stack indefinetly. they work better than the canon. 10 people with 100 molotovs ez if 40 with 100 molotovs way easier. repeat on every boss, ez 10k starchrom
it is the same on live. if not even worse. the closest attempt was when hunter "bugged" on spawn point and he did not move. it took 25 minutes in insane lag to shred his silver armor (i ended up doing most dmg on silver armor because i used all my high grade explosives/grenades/molotov i collected while playing) so we are able to dps him down to 10%, but he "spawned" silver armor again, so gg. i was like, ok, ill craft grenade launcher weapon and a lot of ammo for it. so i crafted grenade launcher, upgraded it to max (calibration 10) and crafted 100 tungsten HE grenades for it (very VERY expensive) and next PW i tested it on silver armor. i was doing like 1000 dmg per shot, that is like nothing :)
tl,dr: i am putting the game on ice. the further i progressed, the more unfinished stuff i found. this game needs like one more year (or more) in development. the amount of issues is collosal.
prime war was EASY just get a warband do some refinerie defense for biomissle farm and heavy turret it deal 45k dmg/ missile to the shield and they have a HUGE bullet drop so is better to be mount on a truck for this reason and also you won't be refund the mat if you place structure at the primewar
other thing only the owner of the truck can shoot it
to avoid the lag don't be stacked...yes obvious...we was 27 people 18 from my warband
we proceed like that on the hound prime war
start primewar without anything build and note the boss spawn
now you now the spawn build a 3 high building and multiple wall layer we used around 3-4K brick and steel
just use the caned fish oil buff and you can do 50-60k of raw material
then we pick player who have the lower ping and we place them at 3 strategic spot with max 2 player around them
people without turret focus elite so we can shoot the biomissile properly
the rest of people are in circle spread around the base execpt the random people who did what they wanted to do
then when the shield is down we will just get off turret and shoot the boss
WARNING: the boss need to be shiled break 4 time the 3rd time he was 1health bar lasting and he was getting immune even shield
breaked then we break it 4 time and that done the job we finished it under 10 min at least for the hound we are planing to do a 2nd one cus the first was a succes
It's ALL about organisation, experimentation and planification
FUN note: the server was having a bad time because of the primewar he was on 1-2 network bar when we did it
Same thing for us we had half shield down. it is a problem that the terminal goes to the top of the building which that has to fixed for sure. Why have us build if you can't incase the terminal seems kinda backwards. But yeah they have to have something with closing them off to 40 players of just making it were it doesn't go all laggy like the public events which it seems like are fine for the most part. Its weird the game on launch is always so smooth and then we get a 2weeks 3 weeks in and this happens. I mean this is why they do betas but they do need to focus I think that they may be trying to do to much at once.
Even now at release PW only works when its only 26 ish people full 40 pw is just broken can't do anything even moving is hard
Dang, that's crazy. I will be sure to try to do Prime Wars when I got better internet. That didn't look fun at all.
3:55 ...There is a limit of participants in the event, yesterday I was left out, it was 49/40 HAHAH and when moving, I was teleported out of the area.
Oh wow good to know!
Dude i was in the same war and i can see my character and VOIP in this Vid also LOL
i also tried 6 times more after that. i failed everytime due to bugs
i hope they fix this soon
boss is too over powered all player is like ants near an elephant
Aye yo I was there for the disappointment!!!
First Prime War we did, showed up and held the boss off till timer countdown ended = No rewards
We waited till we could do another in the same area, held the boss off till countdown ended = No rewards
3-4 hours wasted with zero rewards, were done with Prime War lol
what kind of server u have netease u r making game for million of player around the globe but unable to Hendel just 60 player in one place 🤔🤔
Just tried this now, full game release etc, and what a joke lol.
First event the server lag was making the game unplayable. All the classics: rubber banding all over, freeze and then fast forward world, things walking into sunset to then snap back etc.
Second event lag seemed a lot less so at least game was playable only to see just how idiotic the event design is lol. Fire/burn damage only? How stupid. What if you don't have or want to have fire? Guess no event for you. Other status dmg? Nope. Just burn. And needing people to build random shit in random place to do this? How moronic lol.
And performance seems to be getting worse with every patch. I started playing the game on launch and it was fine and now 37 (thousand) patches later (according to in game launch load screen) I'm starting to experience a lot of the issues many people are complaining on steam and reddit. GG devs I guess haha.
Meh.
My warband is the only group that has been actively doing Prime Wars, setting them up and “paying” all the investment… to absolutely no reward for us, so we’ve given up for now as we’re burned out doing it.
The amount of premium fuel needed leaves 10+ people farming refineries constantly.
You can also always know the way the boss spawns, you look for a silver puddle on the floor, that’s the boss spawn point.
Oh good to know about the boss spawning! Sucks to hear the rewards aren't worth the effort though
@@MattyGorm Starchrom is Starchrom, but the amount you get is hilariously bad when you look at the investment needed to even get that much for the rockets alone.
25 premium fuel per rocket, at least gunners needing at least 50-100+ rockets depending on location for repeat-ability, and it adds up. Add in the fact that bosses can ignore physical objects like you saw him walking over the things on the ground, so if it bugs out all that investment is wasted.
1000 for normal and 1500 for hards, when the bat / flying chick is MASSIVE and you have to build up vertically to cut her off really takes time to prep properly.
Also keep in mind enemies spawn DIRECTLY OUT OF THE TERMINAL, so if you cut it off and put a roof over it, they spawn in and attack it directly, making you lose instantly
@@jsullivan649 yea they need to change the spawns bc that seems backwards tell you to build to defend the terminal but yet you incase it and the enemies are right there to destroy it seems to be a flaw with the system and like they set it up to fail.
@@srhguy210 pretty much, one of those “mechanics” that are really just there to throw you off… which typically kills your enjoyment since you can’t control the flow the first time out lol