Why do people keep saying there moving oxygen? They sound so dumb, it’s air! Yes there is an oxygen molecule but there’s several more molecules as well in air.
21% oxygen 78% nitrogen 1% carbon dioxide, argon and other gasses u don’t need You really only care about the oxygen and nitrogen the rest is along for the ride. That why people use NOS (Nitrogen & Oxygen) not compressed air.
Hot air causes few molecules of anything in a given volume. Because the molecules are farther apart, you can fit fewer total in the induction system AND the cylinder volume. If you keep it cool, you fit more molecules (O2 included) so you have to add more fuel to maintain your desired F/A ratio. More fuel burned = more power. Not stupid at all. It's chemistry and physics. I'm not being a smart ass, just trying to explain it in a different way for you.
@@HeftyLefty808Compressed air actually works VERY WELL... Hotrod magazine did an article on a company developing compressed air forced induction systems about 8 - 10 yrs ago, it was VERY INTERESTING
That compressor wheel is flipping sweeeeeet!!! Why don't all turbo manufacturers have small hubs? You just add more air flow. Apex has a turbo with a comp wheel like that
Because it doesnt really make a difference. Take a desktop fan for example and put your hand right in the center, no airflow there, only at the edges. Similar to how a turbo compressor wheel is.
They aren't. But they need more maintenance because there is no cooling. If you're only (drag) racing them, there is not much maintenance needed. I have twin 64s. Problem with talking turbos is that lots of things are generalized. One really needs to know some stuff to properly size them. Especially when someone talks turbine A/R. Turbos are a compromise. You can't have it all.
@Shademax4273 it's a proprietary comp turbo "space age" grease. It just evaporates and you have to apply more. Every 3000 miles or so. If you have water cooling maybe less but I would put new grease in there on a good interval.
Which barely does anything anyway. Apex’s magic is really their ported shroud. The nut has very negligible surface area. And it’s in the center, (think eye of a hurricane)
This statement is very vague. All turbos have a sweet spot, garrett recently started building their G series Race line for specific size class racing. Class size racing turbos sacrifice overall efficiency and a broad compressor map, for a narrow and peak flow specific compressor map. Garrett and Borg both have turbos on production cars. There is a reason comp FP and zona do not.
True it is vague...I forgot to include apex to..I hear thier 91+mm boi's cook... im just saying alot more choices than what the sponsored YT guys run..doesn't always need to be a garret or precision.
Awesome spokesman!
Agreed, he seemed very knowledgeable in the world of Turbochargers.
That dude was super knowledgeable and very likeable. Comp is lucky to have him!
Eddie is a cool guy, Ive met him when I went to Comp to speak about picking up some turbos. Hope to be going back soon to pick up some more
Bad ass turbo comes with a $$$$$$$ price
Eddy the rep is better than the sham wow guy.
Why do people keep saying there moving oxygen? They sound so dumb, it’s air! Yes there is an oxygen molecule but there’s several more molecules as well in air.
21% oxygen
78% nitrogen
1% carbon dioxide, argon and other gasses u don’t need
You really only care about the oxygen and nitrogen the rest is along for the ride. That why people use NOS (Nitrogen & Oxygen) not compressed air.
Hot air causes few molecules of anything in a given volume. Because the molecules are farther apart, you can fit fewer total in the induction system AND the cylinder volume. If you keep it cool, you fit more molecules (O2 included) so you have to add more fuel to maintain your desired F/A ratio. More fuel burned = more power.
Not stupid at all. It's chemistry and physics. I'm not being a smart ass, just trying to explain it in a different way for you.
@@HeftyLefty808Compressed air actually works VERY WELL... Hotrod magazine did an article on a company developing compressed air forced induction systems about 8 - 10 yrs ago, it was VERY INTERESTING
The point is these vendors keep saying oxygen, which by itself is flammable and not in a good way.
@@nickb289oxygen is not flammable , it is an oxidizer.
So how often do they need to be greased on a street car?
It’s similar to the self contained superchargers. Like Eaton and pro charger I just don’t know if it’s race only
3000 miles
Oooo need! Want!
That compressor wheel is flipping sweeeeeet!!! Why don't all turbo manufacturers have small hubs? You just add more air flow. Apex has a turbo with a comp wheel like that
Because that’s where only a tiny % of the air is, so while it’s a good selling point as it gets people excited, it’s doesn’t do very much for flow
because it doesnt work.
Because manufacturing it to the tolerances required is an absolute BITCH.
This has been around for several years in diesel pulling. It’s nothing new. Plus the added cost pushes most people away
Because it doesnt really make a difference. Take a desktop fan for example and put your hand right in the center, no airflow there, only at the edges. Similar to how a turbo compressor wheel is.
Nice but so is the price
Wonder if oiless turbo s are race only
They aren't. But they need more maintenance because there is no cooling. If you're only (drag) racing them, there is not much maintenance needed. I have twin 64s. Problem with talking turbos is that lots of things are generalized. One really needs to know some stuff to properly size them. Especially when someone talks turbine A/R. Turbos are a compromise. You can't have it all.
@_illtal
Very true. First time I had heard of oiless turbos. Wonder how they deal with all that heat coming from the exhaust.
@@Shademax4273space grease. You have to put more in there at a suggested interval. I have a twin set of them.
Never heard of space grease lol. You do a lot of street driving? Do you have to change the grease often?
@Shademax4273 it's a proprietary comp turbo "space age" grease. It just evaporates and you have to apply more. Every 3000 miles or so. If you have water cooling maybe less but I would put new grease in there on a good interval.
A lot of claims on flow and temp, let’s see the compressor map
They don't have them. Costs lots of money to produce those maps.
@@_illtalso mostly marketing mumbo jumbo
Ah, so comp is doing what Apex Turbo has been doing for the last 6 years with the hubless compressor wheel.
Which barely does anything anyway. Apex’s magic is really their ported shroud. The nut has very negligible surface area. And it’s in the center, (think eye of a hurricane)
People be Garrett the best..until they see a comp or a FP turbo or a zona ..comp ftw
I honestly think the Borg EFR series are the best.
This statement is very vague. All turbos have a sweet spot, garrett recently started building their G series Race line for specific size class racing. Class size racing turbos sacrifice overall efficiency and a broad compressor map, for a narrow and peak flow specific compressor map. Garrett and Borg both have turbos on production cars. There is a reason comp FP and zona do not.
@_illtal me too it's probably the best a rounder
True it is vague...I forgot to include apex to..I hear thier 91+mm boi's cook... im just saying alot more choices than what the sponsored YT guys run..doesn't always need to be a garret or precision.
@@_illtal bw is another great option with bullseye