My Story of Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria | Helena Kerschner

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  • Опубликовано: 24 апр 2021
  • This week, we’re featuring a few of our top moments from the Q 2021 Culture Summit, starting with this important conversation between Preston Sprinkle (President of the Center for Faith, Sexuality and Gender) and Helena Kerschner, a former transgender man who is now de-transitioned.
    Want to be inspired by more conversations like these? Join us virtually for the 2022 Culture Summit at qideas.org/2022. Get your digital pass for live and on-demand access post-event!

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  • @Zara-gl4po
    @Zara-gl4po 2 года назад +40

    I think it's incredibly important for us to develop ways to recognize those teens who change their gender identity due to depression, anxiety, loneliness, etc. vs. those who are genuinely - biologically - trans, and develop careful protocols for treating their pain. For this reason, I'm glad some "de-transitioners" are speaking out. However, I have a trans son who is most definitely trans (like, I started worrying about it when he was three). Helena, I'd hope you voice support for those kids as well as the ones who are like you. Everyone deserves the care that's right for them and de-transitioners' stories are being used to hurt kids whose body dysphoria is the core cause of their suffering. Thank you!

    • @aliciaochs
      @aliciaochs 2 года назад +7

      How do you prove someone is bio trans? What does that mean?

    • @gloobery
      @gloobery Год назад +4

      Thats new... what is biologically trans. Sounds like an oxymoron 😂

    • @nataliap2705
      @nataliap2705 Год назад

      Zara….. 😢 I disagree with your entire comment

    • @rebeccajohnson9763
      @rebeccajohnson9763 9 месяцев назад +1

      I think the problem is that there is no definition of trans and people (I won't use "community" because I don't think this is all trans people) have different definitions and change the definitions and words often and suddenly. It hurts their credibility. We don't know if there is a biological basis for being trans (Maybe maybe not). I come to this from an experience with a little girl (my friends daughter).who presented as 100% male from age 5-12 and then exited puberty in dresses and skirts. She's 30 now and still identifies female. She might be a rare outlier but it certainly makes me cautious about the stability of gender identity (meaning: don't do anything rash or permanent). In any case no one can seem to provide a definition of being trans except for a "feeling" . Which isn't helpful in creating laws and policies. You have to be able to identify the population you are working with/for

    • @heatfromsapphire
      @heatfromsapphire 6 месяцев назад

      @@rebeccajohnson9763Thats just the issue with human language, though. Unfortunately, it’s likely impossible to exactly describe such a specific feeling to another person. That’s why people often stick to general descriptions, such as “People who don’t identify solely with their assigned gender at birth.” With descriptions like these, it is most definitely more broad and less informative, but it’s the only way to include every possible aspect of a VERY large and diverse group of people. And, additionally, it is relatively common for people within that community to change what they identify as, because it’s nice to simply experiment with different things to see what sticks. I wouldn’t say we “hurt our credibility” either by doing this, but simply show that we are more willing to accept change. If someone tries swapping what they identify as, gender, pronouns, expression, etc. and decides they don’t like it and swap back, that’s perfectly okay. It’s difficult to judge people based on experiences you haven’t had yourself, so it’s better to just be accepting of everyone and respect people, regardless of what aspects of them may confuse you.

  • @DragNetJoe
    @DragNetJoe Год назад +17

    The dirty (not) secret is all adolescents and teens suffer from all those same feelings of not fitting in, not being happy with their appearance and/or body, feeling like an outsider. Yes, even the "cool" kids on the football team and cheerleaders feel it. It's 100% normal. What they are doing to these normal kids is criminal.

    • @ithinkiknowme6450
      @ithinkiknowme6450 10 месяцев назад

      And yet transgender children exist and gender dysphoria is real.. it’s just very difficult to diagnose

    • @DragNetJoe
      @DragNetJoe 10 месяцев назад

      @@ithinkiknowme6450 I contend they do not exist. That is to say, mammals in general have a binary gender, with the exception of a very small number with some sort of genetic or developmental abnormality. No one can "trans" (cross) gender. Gender dysphoria is a psychological condition. Let's compare to the clownfish, which is a sequential hermaphrodite. All clownfish are borne essentially genderless then develop into males. The largest dominant clownfish becomes female and leads the little clownfish school. If the female dies the next largest male become female. Clownfish actually "trans" gender. What people call human "transgender" do not. Gender dysphoria is no more normal than limb dysphoria.

    • @heatfromsapphire
      @heatfromsapphire 6 месяцев назад

      None of this is a matter of fitting in and not being happy with their appearance, for a lot of people it’s the inability to truly express themselves. It’s not about being accepted, it’s about accepting yourself.

    • @DragNetJoe
      @DragNetJoe 6 месяцев назад

      @@heatfromsapphire Right, it's about accepting that you actually are the gender you actually are. But somehow the argument has been turned on it's head and pretending to be something you objectively are NOT is celebrated as accepting what you are. If I have red hair and dye it black and claim I "really" have black hair, that's not accepting myself.

  • @marti7343
    @marti7343 Год назад +6

    To add to Zara's comment, for parents whose children may be genuinely trans, it is a challenge. Despite media hype, there are protocols medical professionals use to help kids figure out if they are actually trans, and if this is something they will have to deal with for the rest of their life. For children, it is important that these protocols are followed. In my case, I know I am trans and have struggled with this fact my entire life. I grew up at a time when the idea of being trans was something very few people, including my parents, knew anything about. As a boy, if you expressed feminine interests you might be gay. This was something that was intensely discouraged by my parents. They had no clue what being trans meant. If they had, and perhaps I grew up at a different time, I think I would have led a happier life. No, despite what you may think, I am not crazy. I have lived a highly functional life despite being trans (MtoF). Now, that I have come out, I am more at peace and connected to the world.

    • @rebeccajohnson9763
      @rebeccajohnson9763 9 месяцев назад

      Whatever protocols were following pre 2015 they are certainly not regularly followed now. That's my worry. I don't trust doctors to be honest with adults let alone kids about the true burdens of medical transition. If you are a grown up you can weigh the costs and benefits. A child just can't; they don't have life experience to even judge the tradeoffs.

  • @tumblebugspace
    @tumblebugspace 2 года назад +52

    Talk about *brave!* That’s what she *most definitely* is to even try to have a conversation about this taboo topic. Strange that there are no other comments.

    • @chrissyprincess2850
      @chrissyprincess2850 2 года назад +3

      She's fake as hell

    • @seankearney-mcmanus4486
      @seankearney-mcmanus4486 2 года назад

      She has to be fake, you tell yourself, or else your house of cards ideology collapses.

    • @tuesdayheck457
      @tuesdayheck457 2 года назад +5

      Seems like this is being pushed on teens. In my humble opinion, this is EVIL ppl!!!

    • @Zara-gl4po
      @Zara-gl4po 2 года назад +3

      @@tuesdayheck457 Hi. My 13-year-old just socially transitioned to a boy. He was always extremely boyish and did, said, and drew things since he was three years old that made me concerned that he might be trans. He new nothing about transgender until 6th grade (and I live in Seattle!), yet I found drawings and stories of his from first and second grades depicting him being magically turned into a boy and how happy he'd be. Before he transitioned, I was worried because I found out he was cutting and two of his friends' parents called to tell me he'd told their kids he was suicidal. He was angry and grouchy at me in a way I've never known him to be. Since he transitioned (at school) and came out about it to us, he's been the happiest adolescent I know. The whole thing broke my heart at first. He was my only daughter of my four kids and it felt like I was being stabbed in the chest. I sobbed uncontrollably after he went to sleep. It's been several months now and I've adjusted. Seeing that he still acts just like the loving, perceptive, cheerful, talkative person he always was has been a balm to my heart. And he doesn't care if I call him she or he or his girl name or some mix of all of it at home. He's super compassionate and chill (he can be because he knows I love him unconditionally). He's taught me so much. I'm telling you all this because I want you to know that, while I'm sure a lot of teens are trying out trans as a way to belong and to explain their pain, and I hope they get appropriate care, there are kids who ARE and will always be trans. And if you think any parent celebrates their kid telling them they're trans, or "pushes" it on them, you have NO IDEA what this is like. Walk a mile in my - and my son's - shoes, please, before you throw stones at us.

    • @ralph1682
      @ralph1682 Год назад +1

      @@Zara-gl4po you ne to seek help for your child because your child does not know what is wrong just like the girl in this video.

  • @sandrasmith9179
    @sandrasmith9179 2 года назад +8

    Thank you for your powerful and beautiful message. You are truly amazing and please, please keep up all of your good and hard work you are doing for others! 🌹

  • @charlesprice6830
    @charlesprice6830 2 года назад +22

    You are awesome,. Saw you on Tucker, Carlson, you are so intelligent, astute and beautiful. You are truly an inspiration! Bravo!

  • @johnculley5852
    @johnculley5852 2 года назад +5

    This situation is discussed in Abigail Shrier's 2020 book entitled Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters.

  • @allelalle
    @allelalle 2 года назад +14

    I think the real issue is dividing people into male and female and defining these categories with precise characteristics. I feel like there are very manly men and very girly girls, but there is also a wide range of different people between them. I have gone through a "rapid gender dysphoria" in my early teens when I realized I didn't fit into the girl's box, and that I didn't want to be a silly sexual object for males all my life, but eventually I overcame it by seeing myself just a human, a soul withing a body, an eternal soul who has lived lives of men, women, animals, entities of any kind....and is just who it is. I came to see gender as a very limited and limiting human category.
    Yes there is biology and chemistry involved, but that is part of the game. If in this lifetime I was born as a girl in a human girl body, my chemistry is pushing towards sweetness and sensitivity and kindness, this doesn't mean that I also have a warrior side to me which has every right to exist and that I am.
    So to every confused girl out there, I want to say this: souls have no gender. You are a hole of male and female. Just play this game now in this incarnation, and experience what it means to be you with the body you have as an avatar now, with the chemicals you have in your system, with the experiences your life gives you. You are not this.

    • @likwidshoe
      @likwidshoe 2 года назад

      That is erroneous. Angels have no gender. Human souls, however, were created either male or female. There is only three options: male, female or corrupted. Any corruption of bad genes, gender dysphoria and other mental illnesses, physical ailments, etc come from the devil himself, as he is God of this World, this fallen world that we were born into. He, the devil, has temporary control of the physical world.
      And that right there is the truth we're all down here to discover.

    • @allelalle
      @allelalle 2 года назад +1

      @@likwidshoe I don't agree with your idea. I have read hundreds of accounts of people who remember their past lives and of NDEs in which people are explained how incarnation works, and they all say the same thing: our soul is eternal and we incarnate countless times into different bodies, both on this planet or on others. We can incarnate in a female body or in a male, we are here to experiment every scenario, so we sometimes will incarnate in a poor man and sometimes in a rich man, sometimes in a white one and sometimes in a black one, sometimes in a female, sometimes in a male, sometimes in a person with physical limitations and sometimes in a very strong healthy body.

    • @Zara-gl4po
      @Zara-gl4po 2 года назад

      I love your take on this. Thank you.

    • @arwenstrong2818
      @arwenstrong2818 Год назад

      Love this take. I wish everyone understood the spiritual side of this as well as you do.

    • @clizbot
      @clizbot 10 месяцев назад +1

      I disagreed with your initial sentence. The rest of it I can understand.
      Being male or female is undeniably a physical thing that we can distinguish and naturally we separate the two under the human category.
      Characteristics, especially behavioral, indeed shouldn’t be defined so critically. Realistically Nobody can perfectly fit the gender description because even tho our biology and chemicals influence our behavior patterns we actually all have the full range of human behaviors thats why we find people with a mix. Socially, some behaviors are just considered masculine or feminine because of how much more often they are found in a certain gender. Or because of how attractive it is found in the opposite gender. But just because we display something unusual doesn’t make us any less of what we are. Maybe the truth to see here is to be happy with what you have

  • @memyselfandi9684
    @memyselfandi9684 2 года назад +5

    Saw you on Tucker and led me here! Thank You for speaking out, even if it saves one more life from this society purposed gender confusion.

  • @jeffreywbaumann1210
    @jeffreywbaumann1210 Год назад +17

    If a 3 year old girl says she is actually a boy, she is wrong, 100% of the time. You are completely safe telling her, "no, you are a girl, which is a wonderful thing."

    • @w0xy
      @w0xy Год назад

      what if a 25 year old girl says it

    • @jeffreywbaumann1210
      @jeffreywbaumann1210 Год назад +4

      @@w0xy She's still wrong, you just have less flexibility in saying it.

    • @zeenuf00
      @zeenuf00 Год назад +2

      ​@@w0xyshe's a woman who is wrong

    • @AdelineCowgirl
      @AdelineCowgirl 11 месяцев назад

      @@jeffreywbaumann1210I hope you never have any children with actual clinical gender dysphoria. Yikes. People like you are the reason the suicide rate is so high among trans kids. I do think parents are too quick to accept that their kid is trans, but to just completely discount their experience is a pretty crappy thing to do.

    • @ithinkiknowme6450
      @ithinkiknowme6450 10 месяцев назад

      @@zeenuf00yep.. And when they leave you in a nursing home for being abusive and transphobe.. you’d still be saying they’re wrong 😂😂..
      Gender Dysphoria is real and painful , Bigot..

  • @JosephSeabourne
    @JosephSeabourne 6 месяцев назад

    The ROGD study had some very sketchy research methods and had to be edited to say it was purely proposing a hypothesis, not actually saying ROGD is a thing. ROGD has been rejected by literally the entire scientific and medical communities, yet people are clinging onto it because its the only thing they have to use against trans people.
    That's not to say this person's experience isn't valid or wrong, but you can't say that because around 1% of people who transition end up detransitioning that we need to just ban the concept.

  • @suethomas7886
    @suethomas7886 2 года назад +9

    HELP! My granddaughter is doing the same thing. My daughter tells me not to say anything to her...but I still have feelings to do so. What should i do?

    • @tuesdayheck457
      @tuesdayheck457 2 года назад +8

      Share this video with her please. Pray that God will intervene.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 2 года назад +1

      You should mind your own business

    • @nutrylzone367
      @nutrylzone367 2 года назад +5

      Definitely talk to her! This video tells only a portion of her experience by making bad choices that allows her to become influenced or feel pressured. Where were the parents in this?

    • @aliciaochs
      @aliciaochs 2 года назад +1

      please go to Genspect and see their guidance for parents, friends. You as a grandmother can direct the parents there for good advice. Connection. Gender a Wider Lens excellent podcast. For many this appears to be a social contagion, even trans doctors are speaking out.

    • @christophervishy8273
      @christophervishy8273 2 года назад

      Maybe if you know somebody whom she trusts that you also trust, you could get some middle ground and have a genuine conversation, without political indoctrination. I would recommend

  • @Honeycoupe
    @Honeycoupe 5 месяцев назад

    Hot take:
    We need a detransitioner movie. I’m talking a fictional, drama movie about a girl conned into transitioning, only to discover she’s made a mistake.

  • @tuesdayheck457
    @tuesdayheck457 2 года назад +9

    Your an incredible young women. Thank you for speaking out n helping today's youth.

  • @clizbot
    @clizbot 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve read many testimonies, and done interviews. All from neutral perspective and from the persons experience. And to get the most honest answers I presented a supportive standpoint. Needless to say, different colors are shown when they don’t know what your true opinions are.. and after many of these personal experiments,
    I’m pretty convinced gender dysphoria is self inflicted… I can’t unsee it as a delusion.

    • @heatfromsapphire
      @heatfromsapphire 6 месяцев назад

      I don’t think it’s possible to have a “neutral” standpoint on something like this, as simply having experienced it or not is enough bias by itself. As someone who has struggled with gender dysphoria, I always thought I was simply delusional, and that something must be wrong with me. Just because it’s difficult to explain, doesn’t mean it’s self-inflicted, or that it’s delusional.

    • @clizbot
      @clizbot 6 месяцев назад

      @@heatfromsapphire from what I’ve seen. It’s almost always triggered because of outer influences making the person think they should act or look a certain way. After that comes the fixation on being “different” which spirals into a depressive obsession. Very common with neurodivergent people, doesn’t stop at gender either, I met some people living in a more extreme fantasy world. But it all starts with that fixation of not fitting in, even if it’s very slight.

  • @A_literal_zombie
    @A_literal_zombie Год назад +3

    I know that people do transition and regret it sometime, but rapid onset gender disposes has been thoroughly proven false.

    • @JosephSeabourne
      @JosephSeabourne 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, detransitioning is a thing, and this experience is absolutely valid, but it doesn't mean we need to push it on to everyone else. The ROGD study had some very sketchy research methods and had to be edited to say it was purely proposing a hypothesis, not actually saying ROGD is a thing. ROGD has been rejected by literally the entire scientific and medical communities, yet people are clinging onto it because its the only thing they have to use against trans people.

    • @unnamedshowcomingsoon2174
      @unnamedshowcomingsoon2174 6 месяцев назад

      Sorry,there was a typo in my original message, I completely agree with you.(I'm on an Alt account)

    • @JosephSeabourne
      @JosephSeabourne 6 месяцев назад

      @@unnamedshowcomingsoon2174 oh yeah sorry I wasn't arguing with you my comment was meant to be taken as agreement

  • @notnuff2264
    @notnuff2264 2 года назад +1

    Helena is not "Demi", "Fluid", or "Trans". There is no such thing. She was born "Hot Chick". And that's that!

  • @shaleececarter6570
    @shaleececarter6570 Год назад

    I'm confused

  • @susancunningham7255
    @susancunningham7255 2 года назад +27

    RIGHT ON GIRL! SPEAK OUT! THIS TREND IS SO DEVASTATING TO OUR UNIFORMED AND VULNERABLE YOUNG GIRLS!

    • @veritaskairos9466
      @veritaskairos9466 2 года назад +3

      Rogd isnt a real thing. Please do some research

    • @veritaskairos9466
      @veritaskairos9466 2 года назад

      @@lauriesamuelson5 i have done reaserach...why dont you do some

    • @lauriesamuelson5
      @lauriesamuelson5 2 года назад

      @@veritaskairos9466 I have

    • @veritaskairos9466
      @veritaskairos9466 2 года назад

      @@lauriesamuelson5 sure, sure.

    • @aliciaochs
      @aliciaochs 2 года назад +2

      @@veritaskairos9466 It is real...you are in denial. Been affirmed as many, many people's own experiences

  • @daniellemaciel5130
    @daniellemaciel5130 Год назад +4

    Take care of your kids… take them off social
    Media..

  • @hockeyhacker97
    @hockeyhacker97 Год назад

    I am curious where this conversation was going because it seems very out of context to attack people who are truly trans which I don't think is what it was meant as if given full context. Like yes are there people who might have body dysmorphia and confuse it with gender dysphoria and as such get the wrong treatment for the wrong mental state and end up regretting the actions that they took because they received the wrong treatment for the wrong thing? Clearly that can and does happen but at the same time there are also people how have their life saved because they did get the right treatment for the right mental state, just because someone had a bad experience getting the wrong treatment for the wrong thing does no inherently make that treatment bad. Yes it does mean that we should look into better ways to distinguish between the two similar but very different mental states but there is nothing that is ever 100% and things like this can happen, if hundreds of thousands of people get liver or kidney transplants and have their lives save due to the surgery should we then ban the surgery just because 3 people who got the surgery happened to have their immune system reject the transplant and died due to the transplant and their body not properly absorbing the immunosuppressants? No of course not, it still saves lives but we should look into better ways in making sure that the immunosuppressants are doing their jobs correctly before doing the surgery so that those tragic deaths don't occur just due to some preventable error of making sure that the surgery was right for the person and that the person's body/mind was ready to accept that physical change wither it be surgery or wither it be hormones or immunosuppressants or what have you.

    • @zeenuf00
      @zeenuf00 Год назад

      What is 'truly trans?' What are the objective, agreed upon criteria?

    • @hockeyhacker97
      @hockeyhacker97 Год назад

      @@zeenuf00 Someone whose gender identity does not align with their sex registered at birth. Trans does not have to be MtF or FtM, it can also include NB and gender fluid people as well, but by "truly trans" it was in relation to some people before they figure out who they truly are confuse gender identity and gender expression and assume the two things are the same in which they are not and so think they may be trans where as in reality they are for example a man who likes expressing themselves effeminate or a woman who likes to express themselves masculinely. So for me I am a trans woman, I identify as a woman and while being feminine helps with my dysphoria I don't necessarily have to be effeminate, my gender identity does not align with my sex at birth, where as there are some drag queens for example that identify as being a man and confident in their gender but love expressing themselves effeminately, they are not trans they just express themselves the way they like to express themselves. Someone who may possibly not be a "true trans" is someone who is unsure whether they identify as a different gender or just simply identify aligning with their sex at birth but have a different gender expression and they need time to explore themselves to figure out what is right for them. There is nothing fake about their need to explore themselves it is just simply a way to not exclude those who are trans but don't know it yet while not including those who may think they are trans but in reality they are very much cis who just has different gender expression. (Both in which are totally valid things to do but one is a trans person who doesn't know they are trans yet and the other is a cis person who is exploring themselves to see what fits them)

    • @zeenuf00
      @zeenuf00 Год назад

      @@hockeyhacker97 load of incoherent wokebabble

    • @hockeyhacker97
      @hockeyhacker97 Год назад

      @@zeenuf00 Don't ask a question if you don't want an answer then you goof. Or did you just assume that because I used the term "true trans" that I was somehow implying there is a "fake trans" and so assumed I would give some reply that fit something you wanted to be true?
      Sorry while I highly disagree with what a lot of the left believes in (I am very much against both sides of the unfortunitly 2 party political system) I can't help but find it amusing when the extreme right retcons a positive term that is clearly positive and tries to change it into an insult, using "woke" as an insult makes about as much sense as using "smart" as an insult, how is it an insult to not be ignorant or be aware of something? But go on please keep using that term as a slur it is highly comical inept a political side has to be to use a good word as a slur instead of just creating their own word to replace with "woke", not being oblivious is not an insult it is actually a positive so please keep using that term as a slur it just gives people who can think for themselves a good chuckle at how ironic it is you use a positive word as a slur.

    • @coindog6336
      @coindog6336 11 месяцев назад

      @@zeenuf00 People like you are the reason I can't take detransition stories seriously

  • @joydot7620
    @joydot7620 2 года назад +15

    Terrible lesson. Glad you pulled out of the vortex & found your voice.

  • @nataliap2705
    @nataliap2705 Год назад

    Straight pretty white woman: SPWW. The new oppressed and one of most hated groups. I am totally serious too. I’ve been targeted I feel for this very reason

  • @D4n1t0o
    @D4n1t0o 2 года назад +1

    That voice deep, bro

  • @Revitalization4241
    @Revitalization4241 Год назад

    "You will always be a troon"

  • @beatrizkarwai6763
    @beatrizkarwai6763 2 года назад +31

    anyone who thinks rogd is a valid diagnostic should watch cass eris channel, where she's analyzing the book 'irreversible damage' chapter by chapter.
    i just want to tell one thing. if you detransition, it's fine, you don't have to be trans to be 'valid'. you don't have to transition to be 'valid'. but some people are really trans, and they need to transition. i know that you had bad experiences, but your discourse is erasing trans people's experiences, in the same way that the 'ex-gays' were used as arguments against gay marriage a few years ago.
    please undestand that you can be a wonderful person independently of being cis or trans, man or woman, binary or non-binary. but please don't let people use your experiences to hurt others, to erase others experiences, to take away essential medical treatments that can be life-saving for certain people. don't let your experience, which is individual, be generalized to other people who are actually trans and actually benefit from these treatments.
    if i were to generalize my experiences to society as a whole, every amab person would have to take estrogen and t-blockers, do you think that's reasonable? of course it isn't, because my experience is individual. the same way, you can't take a cis man's experience and generalize, that everyone who is amab should never take estrogen and t-blockers, because '''it's bad to their bodies, and compromises their reproductive ability, yada yada yada'''.
    there are trans women, and there are cis men, there are trans men, and there are cis women. if you feel confused about your identity, if you feel pushed towards some kind of group identity, you should seek therapy and find out who you are, that's the best thing you can do.
    edit - i won't answer any comments which are provocative or in bad faith.

    • @jenniferlee4506
      @jenniferlee4506 2 года назад +13

      NO ONE is born in the wrong body. It's a hideously homophobic and misogynistic ideology.

    • @catsmom129
      @catsmom129 2 года назад +8

      Thank you for making these points. I have a lot of questions for the guest speaker, but her story is not my main concern. The audience reaction troubled me more. They’re clearly looking for an excuse to ignore trans people’s experiences.

    • @mihaicraciun8678
      @mihaicraciun8678 2 года назад +10

      Look, I'm very pro trans people and I'm very much on the left. I don't agree with all of Helena's thoughts, but she brings up a veeery good point: discovering your gender identity through online communities that are confirmation bias echo chambers is extremely deceiving. This is mostly because if you look at many trans posts, it's about trans people who discovered their identity and are now using any small detail from their past to confirm their gender identity (like playing with dolls, being a nerd or for fucks sake even liking girls and getting rejected by them - yes it's that much of a confirmation bias and I wasn't willing to admit anything because I was afraid that I wasn't being truthful to myself if I denied these experiences as potential signs of being trans).
      I dealt with this myself because I had a thought one day of "oh do I want to be a girl?" and it got me through the most painful year I had. I had an entire year of gender questioning, which happened almost exclusively through online forums (asking questions, reading other people's stories etc) on reddit. I tried to kill myself using pills because I couldn't see an end to questioning and my memories got distorted to a point that if I read anything on trans forums I would believe that experience to be mine (I believed I had the memories of other people). I started to want to get on hormones to be a girl and I had thoughts of cutting my own genitals. The only thing that kept me from not doing that is that I actually liked my body when I looked in the mirror, although I compulsively checked myself to see if I liked wearing dresses, having boobs, having a feminine body etc. I slowly detached myself from those forums after another suicide attempt. Looking back Helena's experience is almost identical to mine. Moral of the story: stay the fuck out of trans forums if you're questioning your gender. It's not healthy and it might lead you to some very flawed conclusions. Just look inside yourself, look at your body and figure out what you want and what you don't. It's as simple as that and it worked for me.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 2 года назад +2

      ROGD is a debunked theory. To read about this, go to The Journal of Pediatrics and look up 'Do Clinical Data From Transgender Adolescents Support the Phenomenon of “Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria”?'

    • @aliciaochs
      @aliciaochs 2 года назад +2

      @@moif_velocita It isn't...it was an observation that is ringing true and needs to be studied more. The medical community will dial it back AFTER the damage. That is what they do.

  • @moif_velocita
    @moif_velocita 2 года назад +36

    I don't believe there is any such thing as 'rapid onset' gender dysphoria. If you're not a transgender person then what you're suffering from is not gender dysphoria at all.
    Rather I believe what is called ROGD is more likely to be a form of self delusion that some people describe as gender dysphoria, apparently because they desperately want to be some one else rather than who they are.
    All of the detransitioners whom I've seen talk about 'making a mistake'. If you have actual gender dysphoria, it isn't something you can control or decide upon. It is a chronic, life long state of mind that can only be alleviated, never really cured. There never is a point where you can say 'I was wrong' or 'I made a mistake'. Gender dysphoria affects your whole existence, for as long as you can remember. You can learn to live with it, but it *never* really goes away.
    I feel sorry for these detransitioners, but att the same time, I feel they are often attacking trans people because they somehow want to blame some one else for their prediciment.

    • @mihaicraciun8678
      @mihaicraciun8678 2 года назад +12

      Look, I'm very pro trans people and I'm very much on the left. I don't agree with all of Helena's thoughts, but she brings up a veeery good point: discovering your gender identity through online communities that are confirmation bias echo chambers is extremely deceiving. This is mostly because if you look at many trans posts, it's about trans people who discovered their identity and are now using any small detail from their past to confirm their gender identity (like playing with dolls, being a nerd or for fucks sake even liking girls and getting rejected by them - yes it's that much of a confirmation bias and I wasn't willing to admit anything because I was afraid that I wasn't being truthful to myself if I denied these experiences as potential signs of being trans).
      I dealt with this myself because I had a thought one day of "oh do I want to be a girl?" and it got me through the most painful year I had. I had an entire year of gender questioning, which happened almost exclusively through online forums (asking questions, reading other people's stories etc) on reddit. I tried to kill myself using pills because I couldn't see an end to questioning and my memories got distorted to a point that if I read anything on trans forums I would believe that experience to be mine (I believed I had the memories of other people). I started to want to get on hormones to be a girl and I had thoughts of cutting my own genitals. The only thing that kept me from not doing that is that I actually liked my body when I looked in the mirror, although I compulsively checked myself to see if I liked wearing dresses, having boobs, having a feminine body etc. I slowly detached myself from those forums after another suicide attempt. Looking back Helena's experience is almost identical to mine. Moral of the story: stay the fuck out of trans forums if you're questioning your gender. It's not healthy and it might lead you to some very flawed conclusions. Just look inside yourself, look at your body and figure out what you want and what you don't. It's as simple as that and it worked for me.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 2 года назад +4

      @@mihaicraciun8678 Thats all well and good, but what you're describing isn't gender dysphoria, rapid onset or otherwise.
      I do hope you feel better about yourself now.

    • @mihaicraciun8678
      @mihaicraciun8678 2 года назад +8

      @@moif_velocita oh come on now. Really? Wanting to tear up my genitals and take hrt isn't dysphoria? That's ridiculous. Not saying that it's "trans dysphoria", but it felt like it.
      Also nobody says dysphoria has to be permanent. Doesn't matter how I got in that mental headspace but the feelings were there, and that's exactly what the video describes. As I said, I don't believe in all of Helena's thoughts, and my experience doesn't have to invalidate a trans person's experience, but to deny the existence of this sort of dysphoria just because it's inconvenient to trans people is very insulting and damaging to a lot of questioning people. That's how you get detransitioners and lose credibility for your cause if you can't acknowledge that these things exist.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 2 года назад +3

      @@mihaicraciun8678 I am a transwoman. I can assure you that you're not describing gender dysphoria. There are a number of points in what you wrote that indicate that you didn't suffer from gender dysphoria. You started by saying, 'one day you had a thought of did you want to be a girl?' I'm afraid thats not how it works. When you are trans, you have that feeling from as early as you can remember. You are always aware of it. It doesn't suddenly arrive one day in your mind.
      Then you say you liked your body when you looked in the mirror. This is another indicator that you weren't suffering from gender dysphoria. Did you actually tear up your genitals or take HRT? It doesn't sound like it.
      A year of questioning one's gender, sounds to me like a basic teenage identity crisis. What you are describing sounds more like body dysmorphic disorder to me, but I'm not sure it was even that. It sounds more like you were trying to convince yourself because you were looking for an identity.

    • @tempesttossed6029
      @tempesttossed6029 2 года назад +1

      @@mihaicraciun8678 your experience and the person in the video's sound to me like a lack of identity, or strong sense of the core self. this is not a dysmorphia issue, but it can look like one because you nitpick the physical body when no personality exists to nitpick. it's essentially a person who feels outside of any social group that wants to create themself from the ground up in the image of something you want to belong to. if you think of a group as cool, then you'll mirror them. this is why mental health resources really need to be free to everyone at all ages.

  • @wen_and_only
    @wen_and_only 2 года назад +18

    ROGD doesn't exist. She was questioning her gender identity and experimenting like many other teens (which is normal). She deserves a place to speak about her experiences and has a point about how transitioning medically early can be harmful but the facts are that less than 1% of trans ppl detransition and social transitioning is normal and healthy.

    • @tempesttossed6029
      @tempesttossed6029 2 года назад +5

      exactly. this is as simple as an insecure, probably traumatized girl needing to find a community and picking the wrong one.

    • @odderlendsolvang3790
      @odderlendsolvang3790 2 года назад +3

      Gender identity is nonsense.

    • @crossroads670
      @crossroads670 2 года назад +2

      That is ROGD though lol

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 2 года назад +2

      @@crossroads670 Gender dysphoria is a by product of hormonal imbalances in the developing fetus. It's something you're born with. You can't suddenly 'catch it' as a teeanger. It's not contagious.
      Also, when you have GD, you don't suddenly get better because you had a conversation with a therapist or you because read a book by Abigail Schrier either. GD has no known 'cure'. It can only be alleviated, through transition.

    • @wen_and_only
      @wen_and_only 2 года назад +4

      @@crossroads670 no, that is called discovering who you are which all teens go through. That would be like if you questioned what kind of job you want in hs and it was called "rapid onset career dysphoria"

  • @pickledbreadproductions
    @pickledbreadproductions 2 года назад +3

    Welp, there goes my last brain cell.

  • @ArisaemaTriphyllum
    @ArisaemaTriphyllum 2 года назад +1

    Where's the pictures of her as a trans man? I think she's lying.

    • @jkrulz77
      @jkrulz77 2 года назад +1

      She's a complete grifter. She's constantly changing her story to fit a popular right wing narrative. Doing all this just for the money! Disgusting.

    • @1notnilc
      @1notnilc 2 года назад

      Pause this video at 1:15. There is a side by side comparison on the screen behind her.
      Plus if you you search her name, no doubt you will find many more.

    • @aliciaochs
      @aliciaochs 2 года назад

      She isn’t lying. Check out her substack Richard Dawson tweeted.. pics are there

  • @elliotpolanco159
    @elliotpolanco159 Год назад

    Online groomers