For those watching this without context: Vish brought up a conversation he'd had with Zain recently before this set started where Zain informs him his name is actually pronounced "Zaan" (the Pakistani pronunciation), and that we've been saying the anglicized version this whole time. He says that he's fine with either pronunciation at this point, but that he does prefer the correct way. Please be respectful in the comments :)
shine 2022 was absolutely legendary, axe overcoming his slump as a solo pika main, zain ending axe's 9 year win streak on marth, jmook showing that a solo sheik main can beat hbox and puff, and ofc zain beating jmook after sheiks giving him problems in recent tourneys. melee is sick!!! :D
Jmook is the answer to that frustrating question people ask: "Well what if there's just some random nobody has heard of that's better than the top 10 pros on the circuit? They just don't travel?" Us: "Sike lol that's such low odds" Jmook being that diamond in the rough
We always have the "dual Sheik mains" since long time but never solo. - Isai with Falcon and Sheik - Captain Jack with Sheik and Dr.Mario - KDJ with Sheik and Fox - M2K with Sheik and Marth (and maybe Fox) - Plup with Sheik and Fox - Leffen with Sheik and Fox - Recipherus was a solo main Sheik but he only won the GO tournaments back on the 2002-2003 time looool
@@jogbearcool8594 Amsah have the same Recipherus treatment , since he did not win in North America (cuz all super majors are there) he only won like "European Majors".
@@jogbearcool8594 The tourney that Amsah won has no Top 10 players, it had Armada, but at that point, Armada was not #1 in his region, it also had Captain Jack who was also not #1, Amsah is the only player who was maybe Top 10, and only one Top 10 player in a tourney should not count as a major
75 years after the release of melee and it is still amazing how much of a difference there is between the top few and the rest of the pack. It is unreal how good these two are right now.
It's crazy that Zain considers Puff a comfort matchup. It was so cool to see Zain gradually get closer to beating Hbox until winning Shine 2018, then have so many heartbreaker game 5 losses to him until finally turning the corner at Genesis 7.
I'm glad they clarified it's pronounced like 'Zan' at the end. I had no idea and thought my ears were hearing them wrong. Aside from that, it looked like Zain felt so much pressure that he was going for so many risk off the ledge options. I loved to see it thought. This was beautiful Melee!
the marth sheik grand finals matchup between zain and jmook in particular brings me back to the excitement i felt when i first started watching melee during the peak of mango v armada and mango v leffen ... shit is exhilarating. the mind games are incredible, and the pacing is insane. love to see it in 2022 for the greatest game of all time
The 3 people that beat Zain : - Hungrybox kill his momentum on SmashCon , have Hbox not clutch that set , we would see an amazing Zain run to take the tourney - Jmook double eliminated him on GOML and doing a reverse 3-0 on both sets. Have Zain not got reverse 3-0 twice , he would have won it - Axe was always Zain´s bracket demon. With a record of 8-0 and Axe not losing to a Marth since 2013 , so almost a decade not losing to Marth In just this Top 8 , Zain pretty much got all the people that beat him and he claim it back. Slug and Amsa are next on his list !!!!
@@fupalover The problem on those two are their attendance currently. Leffen is taking a break of travelling after the intense Guilty gear Strive grind he did to get EVO Top 3 , and iBDW is recovering from injury. Maybe later on the year we willl have it
At 13:07, Jmook's SDI on the second dair was almost good enough to land on stage. If you go frame by frame it looks like it was just pixels away. Probably wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game but I thought I'd mention it since it was hella impressive.
This tourney was STACKED, it makes me (and I imagine all of you beautiful people out there too) so excited for the future of melee. Can’t wait for the day where a tourney has everyone here plus Plup, Leffen, N0ne, IBDW, aMSa, and I’m sure I’m missing others
@@beauhendershot7911 lol yeah, no doubt. I'm hoping for a Wizzy/Jmook set because we NEED to see that set and a Plup/Leffen set because it's such a travesty they haven't played in over 3 years! Super hoping Big House delivers.
Probably, yeah!! It's unfortunate how hard it is to judge for older players, since in the early days it really was just a single breakout out of unknown-ness and then permanence near/at the top of the scene. We know when the Gods started playing and their first come-ups, but it's really hard to say the delta in skill for them over those first few months
Did you see how this man got bodied and then beat axe? This man might have always been good, but the speed at which he is beating players like axe and hbox, particularly hard matchups to get good at considering the scarcity of players at the top, is incredibly impressive!
And thus, the 2022 Summer of Smash has come to an end and wow, it went out with a bang. Every Top 8/12 has been so exciting and Shine was no exception. It really does seem like anyone can come out of the woodwork with enough practice and make a surprising upset or two. Here's to the rest of 2022 as well as wherever Melee goes in the years to come. Long live this game.
I think JMook is the player with the highest jump in placement and rank in melee history (for now) which is rare. Zain was also in that category kind of. Cus most players grind and slowly go up rank. While Jmook jumped ranks. So seeing Jmook consistently placing high after that one break out tourney is crazy rare.
Holy moly what an unbelievable set!! I don't know if I've ever seen either of them play so aggressive before. Zain was doing some pretty wild offstage stuff that I felt was maybe too risky but what do I know, it worked for him. Incredible Melee
so epic im literally preparing to watch. i cleaned my glasses. I have no clue who wins....i lean towards zain for championship mentality vibes....but i want jmook to win for the epicness. either way......this is a melee set im beyond hype to watch. so fucking epic.
If I can offer some constructive criticism: I really dig the hype man, but there needs to be a mic to capture the crowd noise to back him up and make it feel more impactful and have like a WWE vibe. Edit: Also, I wish the players would bring more heat when they walk onstage, but I get why most of them don't, it takes special personality to really sell that. Mekk got it tho.
I'm pretty sure Zain can turn around down smash for a chance to kill off the top after the downthrow at 8:52 (there were some other opportunities as well on dreamland)
The way he looks at the game/presents himself while talking is very relatable and chill but also shows subtle signs of genius. It’s hard to describe but his facial expressions really show quite a depth, IMO.
Why ere they calling him Zan? Is this some reference I'm missing? EDIT: nvm, seems it's actually correct. That was bugging me an unreasonable amount xD.
It's the Pakistani pronunciation of his name. He mentions in the interview he doesn't mind being called "zayne" but does prefer the correct pronunciation
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Game start: 04:00
Zain interview starts at 28:00
For those watching this without context: Vish brought up a conversation he'd had with Zain recently before this set started where Zain informs him his name is actually pronounced "Zaan" (the Pakistani pronunciation), and that we've been saying the anglicized version this whole time. He says that he's fine with either pronunciation at this point, but that he does prefer the correct way. Please be respectful in the comments :)
That’s for looping me in. I was wondering what was going on. Cool to know
Thanks for the info. I figured they were just mocking a Twitter typo or something lol
plz b respeckt!! ty :))
I thought it was a "berenzain bear"/Mandela effect thing for a few minutes
Mans is soft
I'm so glad Zaan won against Zain in pools
Underated comment bruh I was thinking about this the whole time
shine 2022 was absolutely legendary, axe overcoming his slump as a solo pika main, zain ending axe's 9 year win streak on marth, jmook showing that a solo sheik main can beat hbox and puff, and ofc zain beating jmook after sheiks giving him problems in recent tourneys. melee is sick!!! :D
Melee forever! 🎆🎆
Jmook is the answer to that frustrating question people ask: "Well what if there's just some random nobody has heard of that's better than the top 10 pros on the circuit? They just don't travel?"
Us: "Sike lol that's such low odds"
Jmook being that diamond in the rough
Really hope Jmook wins a major this year, he could very well be the first solo Sheik main to win a major in Melee's history
We always have the "dual Sheik mains" since long time but never solo.
- Isai with Falcon and Sheik
- Captain Jack with Sheik and Dr.Mario
- KDJ with Sheik and Fox
- M2K with Sheik and Marth (and maybe Fox)
- Plup with Sheik and Fox
- Leffen with Sheik and Fox
- Recipherus was a solo main Sheik but he only won the GO tournaments back on the 2002-2003 time looool
Didn’t amsah win one in 2008 or something? Did he have a secondary?
@@jogbearcool8594 Amsah have the same Recipherus treatment , since he did not win in North America (cuz all super majors are there) he only won like "European Majors".
@@jogbearcool8594 The tourney that Amsah won has no Top 10 players, it had Armada, but at that point, Armada was not #1 in his region, it also had Captain Jack who was also not #1, Amsah is the only player who was maybe Top 10, and only one Top 10 player in a tourney should not count as a major
@@henryreturns1397 Plup is a Sheik/Fox/Samus/Luigi main :)
75 years after the release of melee and it is still amazing how much of a difference there is between the top few and the rest of the pack. It is unreal how good these two are right now.
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Nah the top 10 is pretty close with each other aside from a few missmatches heck the whole top 20 is a menace nowdays
Based meme
I'm honestly just as impressed by the commentary as I am by the gameplay lol Toph and Vish are 2 of the best in the biz
Thank you ❤️
Don't forget HMW and Phil. I absolutely love their homie style of commentary. The commentary teams held it TF down per usual.
@@ViciousVish vish i fkn love ur commentary always a treat when ur on mic ong bro u killed it
Greatest commentators ever except they keep calling him Zan for some reason
@@yuvibitter That's his literal name. That's how his name is actually pronounced.
This year of Melee has been the most exciting since 2019 IMO
Not to be mean my dude but that statement is cap
@@Fly1guy it’s my opinion
@@Fly1guy and that is mean so be nicer friend cmon
I think its more exciting than 2019 imo.
@@diegocorral8787 it might be yeah
It's crazy that Zain considers Puff a comfort matchup. It was so cool to see Zain gradually get closer to beating Hbox until winning Shine 2018, then have so many heartbreaker game 5 losses to him until finally turning the corner at Genesis 7.
I'm glad they clarified it's pronounced like 'Zan' at the end. I had no idea and thought my ears were hearing them wrong.
Aside from that, it looked like Zain felt so much pressure that he was going for so many risk off the ledge options. I loved to see it thought. This was beautiful Melee!
28:50 For anyone wondering why they were saying "Zan"
Omg thank you so much. I was so confused 😑
Jmook is so close man ;-;
Hope he's able to pull it through at some point this year man
I feel he will jmook is clearly too talented to not win a major eventually this is what his 3rd grand finals in 5 tourney's
*cough* How do you guys feel now?
the marth sheik grand finals matchup between zain and jmook in particular brings me back to the excitement i felt when i first started watching melee during the peak of mango v armada and mango v leffen ... shit is exhilarating. the mind games are incredible, and the pacing is insane. love to see it in 2022 for the greatest game of all time
The 3 people that beat Zain :
- Hungrybox kill his momentum on SmashCon , have Hbox not clutch that set , we would see an amazing Zain run to take the tourney
- Jmook double eliminated him on GOML and doing a reverse 3-0 on both sets. Have Zain not got reverse 3-0 twice , he would have won it
- Axe was always Zain´s bracket demon. With a record of 8-0 and Axe not losing to a Marth since 2013 , so almost a decade not losing to Marth
In just this Top 8 , Zain pretty much got all the people that beat him and he claim it back. Slug and Amsa are next on his list !!!!
Leffen & Cody should be next. He hasn't beaten them in a min.
@@fupalover The problem on those two are their attendance currently. Leffen is taking a break of travelling after the intense Guilty gear Strive grind he did to get EVO Top 3 , and iBDW is recovering from injury. Maybe later on the year we willl have it
You forgot Zain's true demon... he still needs that rematch against Wally.
Making grand finals a longer video hides whether or not the bracket resets. Excellent touch 👌👌
Vish really corrected Zain saying his own god damn name holy fuck how insane is that
That was fucking sick
insane punish game by Vish
At 13:07, Jmook's SDI on the second dair was almost good enough to land on stage. If you go frame by frame it looks like it was just pixels away. Probably wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game but I thought I'd mention it since it was hella impressive.
This tourney was STACKED, it makes me (and I imagine all of you beautiful people out there too) so excited for the future of melee. Can’t wait for the day where a tourney has everyone here plus Plup, Leffen, N0ne, IBDW, aMSa, and I’m sure I’m missing others
The Big House will most likely be the tournament with every contender in attendance. At least I hope so.
@@kupodrinksmilk omfg PLEASE that’d be so sick. That mf plup needs his god damn phob
@@beauhendershot7911 lol yeah, no doubt. I'm hoping for a Wizzy/Jmook set because we NEED to see that set and a Plup/Leffen set because it's such a travesty they haven't played in over 3 years! Super hoping Big House delivers.
@@kupodrinksmilk damn thats tragic and YES WE NEED WIZZY BACK DAMNIT!! Also dont forget that Apex is coming as well which will be huge
Can't wait to see how zain does the rest of the year. Keep playing like this and he looks like he will keep the number 1 title.
I was too preoccupied adjusting to the correct pronunciation of Zain to pay attention to the gameplay 🤠
Jmook might be the fastest improving player in melee history
Probably, yeah!! It's unfortunate how hard it is to judge for older players, since in the early days it really was just a single breakout out of unknown-ness and then permanence near/at the top of the scene. We know when the Gods started playing and their first come-ups, but it's really hard to say the delta in skill for them over those first few months
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He's always been really good according to ibdw. He just didnt attend many events.
Jmook has been good for a long time just didn't travel. Guy was bopping IBDW for years
Did you see how this man got bodied and then beat axe? This man might have always been good, but the speed at which he is beating players like axe and hbox, particularly hard matchups to get good at considering the scarcity of players at the top, is incredibly impressive!
🎵I’m just rotating my tires
Rotating my tires 🎵
Not a care in this world me and my girl
Literally anybody could win and I could be happy because these are all very talented players
Just here for some good meleeeeeeee
I love that Triple H introduced the players and hyped up the crowd at the beginning
Pretty cool grand finals between jmuk and zan
It’s still spelt Zain just pronounced with out the silent i
This is HUGE for Zain. He overcame his biggest demon right now when it mattered most.
The turn around the loss in game to the 3 stock in game was incredible
super exciting to have seen this set in person going to my first major! Will be coming back and entering next year!
Another shine passes without a spacie winning
And thus, the 2022 Summer of Smash has come to an end and wow, it went out with a bang. Every Top 8/12 has been so exciting and Shine was no exception.
It really does seem like anyone can come out of the woodwork with enough practice and make a surprising upset or two.
Here's to the rest of 2022 as well as wherever Melee goes in the years to come. Long live this game.
I think JMook is the player with the highest jump in placement and rank in melee history (for now) which is rare. Zain was also in that category kind of. Cus most players grind and slowly go up rank. While Jmook jumped ranks. So seeing Jmook consistently placing high after that one break out tourney is crazy rare.
2022 melee has been fire
I really appreciate that there was enough time in the video for a second set so I didn't get it spoiled
My favorite tournament of 2022 so far
Glad to see the hungry box Zain Jmook Rock Paper Scissors doesn’t matter anymore!
10:29 that run, duck and f-til from jmook was soooo clean
Holy moly what an unbelievable set!! I don't know if I've ever seen either of them play so aggressive before. Zain was doing some pretty wild offstage stuff that I felt was maybe too risky but what do I know, it worked for him. Incredible Melee
so epic im literally preparing to watch. i cleaned my glasses. I have no clue who wins....i lean towards zain for championship mentality vibes....but i want jmook to win for the epicness. either way......this is a melee set im beyond hype to watch. so fucking epic.
Some of the craziest sets, what a tournament
Can someone explain what happened at 10:36 ????
Shoutout this channel making the video 41 mins so I thought there was a bracket reset the entire time
The birth of Zan
the second are you ready when you still cant hear the crowd
18:27 "Yeah bitch i can backthrow cheese you too"
Great gameplay! Dang Marth and Sheik threatening all the Fox and Falco's mains out there!!
This tournament was insane
If I can offer some constructive criticism: I really dig the hype man, but there needs to be a mic to capture the crowd noise to back him up and make it feel more impactful and have like a WWE vibe.
Edit: Also, I wish the players would bring more heat when they walk onstage, but I get why most of them don't, it takes special personality to really sell that. Mekk got it tho.
Sorry I'm not up to date with anything, is Zain (formerly pronounced "Zayne") pronoucned "Zan" (as in "van" or "man") now?
Yes that is the correct Pakistani pronunciation
@@thibaultrasborn695 Noted thank you!
@@thibaultrasborn695 Also sorry for now reading the comments and realizing I'm one of 1000 people to ask this question haha
how did he only now correct it after years of everyone saying Zayne
can’t believe xan won
he's on PED's
Zän
I'm pretty sure Zain can turn around down smash for a chance to kill off the top after the downthrow at 8:52 (there were some other opportunities as well on dreamland)
Can anyone tell me how to join the beyond the summit smash tournament????
At 5:20 vish talks about zains micro spacing to avoid the dash attack but i had to slow it down to see its actually a phantom hit
Zain didn’t gain any percent so it couldn’t have been a phantom
@@djhooker8782 wow youre right. Hm it really looks like it hits tho..
Who is xan
Great grands congrats to both jmook and zain for putting on an incredible display of the absolute highest level of melee.
I'm quite glad they hired the same announcer from Rise 'N' Grind. He is amazing!
LETS GO ZAN!
Toph is right, that was the highest skill Marth vs. Sheik set that's ever happened, one of the highest skill sets in general
Most entertaining tournament in a minute imo 👏🏿👏🏿
We can start chanting "Zain the man" with the correct pronunciation. 😀
The interview afterwards was really interesting. People should stick around to listen to it.
The way he looks at the game/presents himself while talking is very relatable and chill but also shows subtle signs of genius. It’s hard to describe but his facial expressions really show quite a depth, IMO.
the very end LMAO
who is zan??????????
Are they saying “Zan” on purpose?
need this first guy's energy at CEO
melee is sick (af)
Why are they saying Zan?
Insane set wtf
Hey why are they calling him zan did he change it or something
Stu is the best MC. love seeinmg him get some time on the mics in the arena
I can’t get over them calling him zan the whole time
top 8 was top melee
that’s MY goat!
Why ere they calling him Zan? Is this some reference I'm missing?
EDIT: nvm, seems it's actually correct. That was bugging me an unreasonable amount xD.
lmfao at the heaviest EDM going on during the commentary at 24:40
Somebody source me that track!
Sick set! Lets go zain good shit to both!!
is it pronounced zayne or zann? I've never heard his name pronounced zann before.
Why is the discord link redirecting to some BTS Fanclub group lmao , is that the joke
19:39 the armada pose
Not to be dramatic but I would die for that announcer
All hail the King of Smash
Zan?
whos jmook
Nobody:
Vish: “Zan is so good!”
But Zain has been saying Za(I)n himself all these years...
yea lol
"Zan" wonderers 23:50
If Zain went to Smash Ultimate and played Marth would he mop the floor there too?
Why were the casters mispronouncing the players' names...
they should spell their names in phonetics in the overlay to avoid this, just like they use the dumb gender pronouns
It's the Pakistani pronunciation of his name. He mentions in the interview he doesn't mind being called "zayne" but does prefer the correct pronunciation
LETS GOOOO
Let's go zain!!!!
Why were they calling him Zan
its the correct Pakistani pronounciation
they are calling him Xan cause he was on Xannax during this tournament
Godlike Zain!
why are they calling zain zan?
DOES TOPH HAVE THE BEST TEETH IN MELEE???
Players are so exhausted coming from Loser's Finals that the result for Grand Finals is almost guaranteed. Jmook will get one eventually, tho.
Xan?
So is Zain's name pronounced Zan? Did we all just mispronounce it before?
Mango's name is pronounced Mang-zero, let's all start pronouncing it correctly too.
did everyone start pronouncing zain's name differently or am I trippin
GGs
Great intro