It was founded by BABA GORAKHNATH. He is my family Guru. Later managed by Baba Balnath. The Mughal Emperor Akbar visited the "Shrine of Balnath," an influential and widely venerated yogi. The shrine was noted by his chronicler Abul Fazal to be "so old" that its origins had become obscure, and that Akbar expressed marvel at the site's old age. The 17th century emperor, Jahangir, also visited the temple complex. Following the collapse of Mughal rule, the complex was sacked and looted by the Pashtun king Ahmad Shah Abdali, during one of his several raids into Punjab. The complex was quickly rebuilt following Abdali's defeat.
Very interesting 🙏💕 Were your family originally from the Pakistani side of old /British India ? Did you belong to the Salt Range ? My paternal family are mostly Jatt Sikhs from Rawalpindi and Attock districts originally , though my grandfather settled in the UK before Partition/circa 1945. I was told that apart from Panja Sahib (Hasan Abdal) our elders used to also regularly visit Tila Jogian and other holy locations . Alas , those times only live on in stories now .
@@omerosdaskalos7708 our origin is from Sindh from Parmar dynasty a lot of our people still lives in Sindh, most of the others are in Rajasthan & a lot of us settled in Gujarat. I’m from Gujarat now. Baba Gorakhnath is in our family for more than 900 years, interestingly he also invented hath yoga. Tilla Jogian’s literal meaning is hill of yogis. Baba Balnath was disciple of Baba Gorakhnath. Baba Gorakhnath was the first to go to that cliff for Tapasya and later on all others followed. It’s made me happy that you’re aware of our history.
@@ViikRum that's wonderful , you have a very old and illustrious history and connection with Guru Gorakhnath Ji /Kanphata Jogis 🙏🌸🌸🌸🙏 Yes, I met some Parmar/Parmara Rajputs in Rajasthan many years ago, when I was working for a field project with FAO/IFAD. Also, some Parmars, also called Panwars (?) are living in Uttarakhand? The connection of Sikhism/Sikhs with Tila Jogian is not that old, it dates to the time when Guru Nanak Dev ji went there to meet the Jogis and learn meditative gyaan, and later he meditated for 40 days at the location shown in this vlog by Salman Rashid sb. After that, Maharaja Ranjit Singh also visited and donated the construction of some monuments . Punjabis also know about Guru Gorakhnath Ji and Kanphata Jogis, because they are mentioned in "Heer Waris Shah" famous love story and poem of Punjab.
@@omerosdaskalos7708 I know our history because there are people in Gujarati we call them Godia they comes to our house every year the have written history of our whole family dating back to centuries. Who’s had how many wife’s, how many kids, migrated to and from, they have all the details. How my forefather came to Bhavnagar to fought a war as a soldier from Rajasthan. And WOW thanks for helping our farmers. Have noticed any advances in Indian farming since you left?
@@ViikRum yes I have heard about Godia , who maintain the heritage of families . Well, as far as agriculture/farming has changed and developed in India, I havent studied recently but I have noted that since last 15-20 years, many new and organic and environmentally friendly/sustainable trends have evolved and also, the Indian agri-production and exports have grown rapidly, in various crops and products . That's very good. Are you also a farmer/agriculturist ? Gujrat seems to be doing very well in agri-production more recently .
😢 deplorable . When I visited back in late 1970s, it was a very tough and hard hike and the locals were afraid to go there because the army had warned them off ; but we did manage to reach the water tank and look around, I guess it was comparatively less dilapidated back then but still in poor shape . It's heartbreaking to listen to you now. We are a disgraceful group of people, venal and greedy and destructive .
Salman sir aapko bahut bahut dhanywad purana Bhart dikhane ke liye aap jab purana gest house ya kisi purane ghar ko bechara kahte hai to lagta hai aap un bejan gest house me purane chijo me jan dal dete hai eske liye aapko bahut bahut sukriya
I think it's not only about finding treasures...we as a nation has a mentality to disturb and destroy things for no reason....you can observe it in daily mundane routine
We are indeed a destructive nation as you can see from my vlogs on the moped riders of Lahore and how they destroy paving stones to make way across traffic islands as shortcuts for themselves. But here this disregard for anything historical is wedded to our lust for quick riches. Of course, it is never found.
Sir , if viable some fund /NGO can be initiated for the purpose of rehabilitation , restoration n preservation of such heritage. Now we need someone creditable like yourself 😊 . If you start I am on it n it is my dream also like many others ,but , direction is still needed . Thank you n Looking forward to it!
Baba Guru Nanak had a discourse with Jogis/Sidhs. Proof of this discourse is found in "Bani" in Adi Granth, the most Holy Scripture of the Sikhs which we Sikhs consider as living Guru. This discourse between Guru Nanak and Jogis is titled "Sidh Gost", literal meaning, discussion with the Sidhs.
Assalamualikum sir , Norway k Hamar gaon mai ik church ka dewar hai lake k kinary par. os ko 75 million kroner sai glass mai band keya hai , sirf ik dewar par itna kharch keya hai
Janani janma bhoomish-cha swargadapi gariyasee (mother and motherland are greater than even the heavens. Bharat Ma hai, iski gode me bhagwan ka niwas hai...isse kaatna, ek jaghanya apraadh hai. We rejoice in the blessings of our ancestors, we draw our strength from our heritage. And that is why we are Sanatan, ever-present, ever full of life, ever moving ahead. Vande Mataram!
Very sad, I visited two years ago on motorcycles. It is an amazing place. Mein naa naeen likhya apna. I have seen a jeep group doing screeches in the talab on RUclips. Pata naheen mere dadon ne kyun naheen property naam karwain :)
@@salmanrashid8880 that's truly depressing . You mentioned that you raised the issue of saving /preserving what's left of Tilla Jogjan, with various officials in the Pakistani /Punjab government, but without much response. Is there no non-governmental organization or international organization, that might take on the task ? Maybe somebody like the Aga Khan Foundation ? Or UNESCO? I'm sorry I don't know much about how this sort of thing might be managed, only sharing my thoughts. Maybe some of the media in Pakistan could promote this idea ? Maybe they could run this short vlog/video ?
@@omerosdaskalos7708 No one is interested in a place like Tilla Jogian because it is not under the spotlight. Every individual and even organisations want to work on projects that can be seen by all. As for the media: it is ruled by ignorant idiots interested only in ratings.
Im from murree and my heart aches seeing the murree brewery ruins being destroyed before our own eyes. A new housing society is being built around the ruins and apparently, they couldn't find a more suitable spot to store construction materials in.
There is one more interesting story as we Tilla jogian is originally realted with nath jogi sect of gorakhnath This sect and jogis are also related with Ranjha who after leaving the home took asylum in the camp of nath jogis of tilla jogian and he became the student of this sect by piercing his ear "Kann mundar"
Bilkul theek, may aazadi ko, loti, ujara, qatal e aam kch Nahi kahta, may sub mela k insani almia kahta hon, Dillon k zakham ab tak Nahi bharay, Syed Haleem Shah Lhr
A donkey will always be a donkey if the books could not damage his brain. I learned that when I visited Pakistan in 2016 after 11 years living in Finland. - From Finland.
Hindu have been helping their Muslim brothers for 1443 years in their economic pursuit by paying jizzah and Mal a Ganmit. Today you have shown another source: digging the ashes of Samadhi.
ہمیشہ کی طرح ایک سچ و حقیقت پر مبنی ہمارے بدبو دار معاشرے کی کہانی ۔۔۔ ۔۔ فصیل آباد میں ڑرماں والا چوک ہے ، 1985 سے اب تک اس خونی موڑ پر ہزاروں حادثات ہوگے ہیں ۔۔۔کیونکہ بہت ہے تنگ اور اچانک موڑ آہ جاتا ہے ۔۔۔ جب بھی وہاں حادثہ ہوتا ہے تو وہاں کے قریبی رہائشی زخمیوں کو لوٹنے سب سے پہلے آتے ہیں ۔۔ یہی انکا پیشہ بن گیا ہے ۔۔۔جناب ہم تو قبر سے مردوں کے کفن چرا کر بیچ کھاتے ہیں 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Ji sikh iss layi nahi onde sige kyon ke west of Pindi Bhattian and north of sialkot otho de local lok sikh nahi sige Only kuch ka migrated sikh cities bich rende sige etho de loka bich sikhism mashoor nahi si Naale Sikhism bich dharmik asthana di inni jyada manyata nahi aa jinni islam and hindusim bich aa Sikhs mainly occasions utte hi visist karde aa in numbers
بھائی جان اگر پاکستان آزاد ملک ہے تو زرا بغیر سیکورٹی کے بلوچستان ، اندرون سندھ، کچے کے علاقہ، اور خیبر کے فاٹا کے اضلاع کا ایک چکر لگا کے دکھاؤ ۔کیسی آزادی ہے کہ آپ اپنے ہی ملک 70% علاقے میں نہیں جا سکتے ۔ آزادی صرف 14 اگست پر واجے وجانے کی ہے
Rashid Saheb, YOU ARE THE TREASURE!
It was founded by BABA GORAKHNATH. He is my family Guru. Later managed by Baba Balnath. The Mughal Emperor Akbar visited the "Shrine of Balnath," an influential and widely venerated yogi. The shrine was noted by his chronicler Abul Fazal to be "so old" that its origins had become obscure, and that Akbar expressed marvel at the site's old age. The 17th century emperor, Jahangir, also visited the temple complex. Following the collapse of Mughal rule, the complex was sacked and looted by the Pashtun king Ahmad Shah Abdali, during one of his several raids into Punjab. The complex was quickly rebuilt following Abdali's defeat.
Very interesting 🙏💕 Were your family originally from the Pakistani side of old /British India ? Did you belong to the Salt Range ? My paternal family are mostly Jatt Sikhs from Rawalpindi and Attock districts originally , though my grandfather settled in the UK before Partition/circa 1945. I was told that apart from Panja Sahib (Hasan Abdal) our elders used to also regularly visit Tila Jogian and other holy locations . Alas , those times only live on in stories now .
@@omerosdaskalos7708 our origin is from Sindh from Parmar dynasty a lot of our people still lives in Sindh, most of the others are in Rajasthan & a lot of us settled in Gujarat. I’m from Gujarat now. Baba Gorakhnath is in our family for more than 900 years, interestingly he also invented hath yoga. Tilla Jogian’s literal meaning is hill of yogis. Baba Balnath was disciple of Baba Gorakhnath. Baba Gorakhnath was the first to go to that cliff for Tapasya and later on all others followed. It’s made me happy that you’re aware of our history.
@@ViikRum that's wonderful , you have a very old and illustrious history and connection with Guru Gorakhnath Ji /Kanphata Jogis 🙏🌸🌸🌸🙏 Yes, I met some Parmar/Parmara Rajputs in Rajasthan many years ago, when I was working for a field project with FAO/IFAD. Also, some Parmars, also called Panwars (?) are living in Uttarakhand? The connection of Sikhism/Sikhs with Tila Jogian is not that old, it dates to the time when Guru Nanak Dev ji went there to meet the Jogis and learn meditative gyaan, and later he meditated for 40 days at the location shown in this vlog by Salman Rashid sb. After that, Maharaja Ranjit Singh also visited and donated the construction of some monuments . Punjabis also know about Guru Gorakhnath Ji and Kanphata Jogis, because they are mentioned in "Heer Waris Shah" famous love story and poem of Punjab.
@@omerosdaskalos7708 I know our history because there are people in Gujarati we call them Godia they comes to our house every year the have written history of our whole family dating back to centuries. Who’s had how many wife’s, how many kids, migrated to and from, they have all the details. How my forefather came to Bhavnagar to fought a war as a soldier from Rajasthan. And WOW thanks for helping our farmers. Have noticed any advances in Indian farming since you left?
@@ViikRum yes I have heard about Godia , who maintain the heritage of families . Well, as far as agriculture/farming has changed and developed in India, I havent studied recently but I have noted that since last 15-20 years, many new and organic and environmentally friendly/sustainable trends have evolved and also, the Indian agri-production and exports have grown rapidly, in various crops and products . That's very good. Are you also a farmer/agriculturist ? Gujrat seems to be doing very well in agri-production more recently .
An unwritten chapter of Indian history. Wonderfully illustrated and explained.
Thanks a lot for this clip.
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The pain in your voice at the end, can be felt 😔
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Thank you Salman for telling it as it is.
Oh, hello, Daud! And thanks for joining this channel.
Salaam …been watching your video again and again. Mesmerising to feel Guru Nanaks pious presence on the hill top🙏🏼
Guru nanak ji conversed with the jogis of tilla. maharaja Ranjeet Singh constructed water pond there in honour of Baba Guru Nanak ji.
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Very informative. Thanks
Sir, you are giving awareness people of this country.
I hoipe so, though I do not have much hope.
Unbelievable ….. thanks a lot sir for narrating a small unwritten chapter of our history. Very enlightening indeed.
Regards 😇🥰🇮🇳
I am grateful to you.
Your pain over the plight of historical buildings can be understood.😢
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Love you God bless you for sharing the facts
Amazing information 🙏
Thanks a lot sir
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😢 deplorable . When I visited back in late 1970s, it was a very tough and hard hike and the locals were afraid to go there because the army had warned them off ; but we did manage to reach the water tank and look around, I guess it was comparatively less dilapidated back then but still in poor shape . It's heartbreaking to listen to you now. We are a disgraceful group of people, venal and greedy and destructive .
Back then at least there were no treasure hunters. This sickness of the psyche developed more and more during the 1990s.
Thanks for highligting the issue
ur theory f searching treasure&ultimately destruction f historical monument is logical prof irfan multan
Sir, it is unending. I have seen innumerable historical/archaeological sites destroyed by our lust for lucre.
@@salmanrashid8880 sir on tillajogian more insight&blogs r requested,ur concise point f view is appreciated
@@IrfanKhan-xb6xq I think this should suffice. How much can I flog Tilla Jogian?
Salman sir aapko bahut bahut dhanywad purana Bhart dikhane ke liye aap jab purana gest house ya kisi purane ghar ko bechara kahte hai to lagta hai aap un bejan gest house me purane chijo me jan dal dete hai eske liye aapko bahut bahut sukriya
Salman Sar mujhe English nahin aati isliye main koshish Karke Aasan Hindi word ka istemal karta hun Jo Bharat Pakistan mein common hai
Really sad 😔 although a heartfelt compliment to you for making this video 🙏
I think it's not only about finding treasures...we as a nation has a mentality to disturb and destroy things for no reason....you can observe it in daily mundane routine
We are indeed a destructive nation as you can see from my vlogs on the moped riders of Lahore and how they destroy paving stones to make way across traffic islands as shortcuts for themselves. But here this disregard for anything historical is wedded to our lust for quick riches. Of course, it is never found.
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Babaji twaadi gallan sunke rona hee aunda. Kee see te kee bangaye assi saare. Rab choran nu v maaf kare
Sacho, ki uchay loki see assi. Tay kithay aan diggay aan.
Sir , if viable some fund /NGO can be initiated for the purpose of rehabilitation , restoration n preservation of such heritage. Now we need someone creditable like yourself 😊 . If you start I am on it n it is my dream also like many others ,but , direction is still needed . Thank you n Looking forward to it!
Sir did you see any remains of old GT road? I saw maybe 25 ago near Rohtas fort
The people who destroy BAMIYANA BUDHA STACHU for them this tila is nothing
Baba Guru Nanak had a discourse with Jogis/Sidhs. Proof of this discourse is found in "Bani" in Adi Granth, the most Holy Scripture of the Sikhs which we Sikhs consider as living Guru.
This discourse between Guru Nanak and Jogis is titled "Sidh Gost", literal meaning, discussion with the Sidhs.
Assalamualikum sir ,
Norway k Hamar gaon mai ik church ka dewar hai lake k kinary par. os ko 75 million kroner sai glass mai band keya hai , sirf ik dewar par itna kharch keya hai
Janani janma bhoomish-cha swargadapi gariyasee (mother and motherland are greater than even the heavens. Bharat Ma hai, iski gode me bhagwan ka niwas hai...isse kaatna, ek jaghanya apraadh hai. We rejoice in the blessings of our ancestors, we draw our strength from our heritage. And that is why we are Sanatan, ever-present, ever full of life, ever moving ahead. Vande Mataram!
Namaskar bhai sahab..badkismati se hum Hindustani..Pakistani aazaadi ki izzat nahin kartey!!!
Hum to balkul nohi kartay. Hum azadi ko des nuksan ka aik rasta mantay hain.
Very sad, I visited two years ago on motorcycles. It is an amazing place. Mein naa naeen likhya apna. I have seen a jeep group doing screeches in the talab on RUclips. Pata naheen mere dadon ne kyun naheen property naam karwain :)
تُسی وی ساہڈے ورگے آرائیں لگدے او۔ کوئی پلاٹ، کوئی زمین نہیں ماری۔
In any other country this would be a heritage tourism site or maybe still welcoming pilgrims from other creeds and places.
Exactly. But we have only ruined it. In the past half century, I have seen perdition taking over this ancient monastery.
@@salmanrashid8880 that's truly depressing . You mentioned that you raised the issue of saving /preserving what's left of Tilla Jogjan, with various officials in the Pakistani /Punjab government, but without much response. Is there no non-governmental organization or international organization, that might take on the task ? Maybe somebody like the Aga Khan Foundation ? Or UNESCO? I'm sorry I don't know much about how this sort of thing might be managed, only sharing my thoughts. Maybe some of the media in Pakistan could promote this idea ? Maybe they could run this short vlog/video ?
@@omerosdaskalos7708 No one is interested in a place like Tilla Jogian because it is not under the spotlight. Every individual and even organisations want to work on projects that can be seen by all. As for the media: it is ruled by ignorant idiots interested only in ratings.
Im from murree and my heart aches seeing the murree brewery ruins being destroyed before our own eyes. A new housing society is being built around the ruins and apparently, they couldn't find a more suitable spot to store construction materials in.
There is one more interesting story as we Tilla jogian is originally realted with nath jogi sect of gorakhnath
This sect and jogis are also related with Ranjha who after leaving the home took asylum in the camp of nath jogis of tilla jogian and he became the student of this sect by piercing his ear
"Kann mundar"
Salman Rasheed Bhai hum ne bare bare maqbare ukhar kar Rakh diye khazano k lalach Mai ye imarate Kya cheez Hain aasaare qadima wale Kahan hain
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Sir Chaghi may bi khazanay dondtay Hain lekin Jin waghaira ki waja say ab log dartay hain
بہت اچھے، بھئی۔
Bilkul theek, may aazadi ko, loti, ujara, qatal e aam kch Nahi kahta, may sub mela k insani almia kahta hon, Dillon k zakham ab tak Nahi bharay, Syed Haleem Shah Lhr
A donkey will always be a donkey if the books could not damage his brain. I learned that when I visited Pakistan in 2016 after 11 years living in Finland.
- From Finland.
ایک ٹله جوگیاں کیرانه هلز میں بھی ھے٠ جهاں رانجھے نے پناه لی تھی٠ کیا آپ نے کبھی اس سے متعلق بھی کبھی سنا ھے ؟
yeh tu zulm hai
Hindu have been helping their Muslim brothers for 1443 years in their economic pursuit by paying jizzah and Mal a Ganmit. Today you have shown another source: digging the ashes of Samadhi.
ہمیشہ کی طرح ایک سچ و حقیقت پر مبنی ہمارے بدبو دار معاشرے کی کہانی ۔۔۔ ۔۔ فصیل آباد میں ڑرماں والا چوک ہے ، 1985 سے اب تک اس خونی موڑ پر ہزاروں حادثات ہوگے ہیں ۔۔۔کیونکہ بہت ہے تنگ اور اچانک موڑ آہ جاتا ہے ۔۔۔ جب بھی وہاں حادثہ ہوتا ہے تو وہاں کے قریبی رہائشی زخمیوں کو لوٹنے سب سے پہلے آتے ہیں ۔۔ یہی انکا پیشہ بن گیا ہے ۔۔۔جناب ہم تو قبر سے مردوں کے کفن چرا کر بیچ کھاتے ہیں 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
ہم پر خدا کی لعنت ہے۔ بادشاہ جہانگیر کی پسندیدہ گالی جو اس کی تزک میں ملتی ہے وہ تھی "لعنت اللہ"۔ ہم وہی ہیں۔
So sad. Why doesn't Pakistan Start Hindu Sikh Spiritual Tourism??
Nothing to do with "dushman desh".
@@salmanrashid8880 your loss
@@VinayDutta-kw5yj Indeed it is. A grave and great loss to be sure.
Ji sikh iss layi nahi onde sige kyon ke west of Pindi Bhattian and north of sialkot otho de local lok sikh nahi sige
Only kuch ka migrated sikh cities bich rende sige etho de loka bich sikhism mashoor nahi si
Naale Sikhism bich dharmik asthana di inni jyada manyata nahi aa jinni islam and hindusim bich aa
Sikhs mainly occasions utte hi visist karde aa in numbers
How aptly put....chaabi wala mulk!
بھائی جان اگر پاکستان آزاد ملک ہے تو زرا بغیر سیکورٹی کے بلوچستان ، اندرون سندھ، کچے کے علاقہ، اور خیبر کے فاٹا کے اضلاع کا ایک چکر لگا کے دکھاؤ ۔کیسی آزادی ہے کہ آپ اپنے ہی ملک 70% علاقے میں نہیں جا سکتے ۔
آزادی صرف 14 اگست پر واجے وجانے کی ہے
Call "Quaid-eAzam" instead of calling by his sir name. He is father of our nation, so be respectful.
Jinaah the terrorist
Paaji ek sim lavo te uste WhatsApp install karke sim tod deo te oh number deya karo. Whatsapp only no calling 😂
Meherbani tohadi. Main eddan he theek aan!
@@salmanrashid8880 te asi apne murshid naal gall kidda kariye. Waise facebook te friend request bheji hai vadde Paaji
Sir either speak in Urdu or Punjabi?